Lampizator and Turntables

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wisnon

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #80 on: 17 Apr 2015, 02:12 pm »
Just checked, not a horn horn. Want to check out Kendrick sound in Japan one day

http://www.trenner-friedl.com/index2.php?menu=produkte&ebene=&seite=1&sprache=en

I heard the Pharoah and Isis ...not RA.

Yup, not horns.

Berto

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #81 on: 17 Apr 2015, 02:36 pm »
I find even modest vinyl rigs can sound pleasing while you have to throw more money at digital.  There is a reason why you see so much vinyl and master tape at shows.  If digital has truly arrived (which it has not), those things would be dust.

You obviously have not been to shows lately. Tape is rare, and digital is the majority. Servers and DSD are all the rage.

kingdeezie

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Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #82 on: 17 Apr 2015, 02:54 pm »
You obviously have not been to shows lately. Tape is rare, and digital is the majority. Servers and DSD are all the rage.

That is more for convenience, more so than SQ IMO.

It is infinitely easier to change musical selections and let potential buyers demo their own music with a digital set up than an analog set up.

 

Berto

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #83 on: 17 Apr 2015, 03:08 pm »
That is more for convenience, more so than SQ IMO.

It is infinitely easier to change musical selections and let potential buyers demo their own music with a digital set up than an analog set up.

You can have both like they had in the Kondo room. This solves that problem, but I see less and less analog setups.

Gopher

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #84 on: 17 Apr 2015, 03:26 pm »
  Bonzo75 thanks for the kind words. We would love to try a Lampi big 7 in our ref. systems. Fred is a fellow Audiosyndrome club member. although we have not seen him in awhile. New busines, new home and family are keeping him busy.
     Now we use two respected digital sources to demo. A modified Lector 7T and a weiss Medea DAC and CEC 01 transport. Fred lets get together for a spin.


charless

Hey Charles,

It's been a while, my friend and I apologize I've been MIA.  I had a difficult 2014 with all the above and some family health issues (all good now).  I plan to be around a lot more in the upcoming months...  One annoying coincidence though:  At least 2 or 3 club meets I could have made it to last year fell on the same days I was out of town for Audio shows :duh: 

I was there in spirit though.   :thumb:




dminches

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #85 on: 17 Apr 2015, 03:57 pm »
You can have both like they had in the Kondo room. This solves that problem, but I see less and less analog setups.

I see just the opposite.  I see more and more turntables in the rooms.  Tape is still rare and will always be even though it sounds best (to me), but 5 years ago turntables were in only a few rooms.  Now they are in many.

Geardaddy

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #86 on: 17 Apr 2015, 09:33 pm »
  Bonzo75 thanks for the kind words. We would love to try a Lampi big 7 in our ref. systems. Fred is a fellow Audiosyndrome club member. although we have not seen him in awhile. New busines, new home and family are keeping him busy.
     Now we use two respected digital sources to demo. A modified Lector 7T and a weiss Medea DAC and CEC 01 transport. Fred lets get together for a spin.


charless

A heard some version of Lector CDP at Axpona in Atlanta several years back along with the German Vocative Arpeggio and it was one of my favorite sounds at the show.  Old school digital but it was magic.

Geardaddy

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #87 on: 17 Apr 2015, 09:34 pm »
Andrea's stuff? (he knows me from several shows now and a long tel call in the past.)

The tiny ART is magnificent and the larger RA needs a big room. I also heard the Pharoahs, but never the Duke or Ella.

Yes, out of Austria.  My wife detests my current speakers and wants me to get the Pharaohs purely on aesthetics.  In the US, the show a lot with Viva (which I own).

Geardaddy

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #88 on: 17 Apr 2015, 09:39 pm »
I see just the opposite.  I see more and more turntables in the rooms.  Tape is still rare and will always be even though it sounds best (to me), but 5 years ago turntables were in only a few rooms.  Now they are in many.

I agree.  I have not attended a show since Axpona in Atlanta (2011), but there were a lot of turntables there.  One of my other favorite rooms there was the Highwater sound room with that gorgeous Raven TT....

Geardaddy

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #89 on: 18 Apr 2015, 12:40 pm »
bonzo75, have you heard the CAD dac?  Its a UK brand (designed by an expat american engineer)....

bonzo75

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Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #90 on: 18 Apr 2015, 01:30 pm »
bonzo75, have you heard the CAD dac?  Its a UK brand (designed by an expat american engineer)....

Hi yes, Around 2 years ago I had compared it to a Weiss, Meitner, and AR Dac 8 and preferred the Meitner. After that I heard it separately in another system. My impression of it was it was neutral and detailed, but it was like any other dac, maybe more detailed, but not special. Tbh I am not an upgrader for the sake of upgrading. I was very happy with an used AR dac 8 purchased at 2k GBP, and I thought all the 'upgrades' to Weiss, Meitner, and CAD were a waste of money despite those dacs being better. I found diminishing returns in dacs pretty quickly. Even when I upgraded to the Lampi 5 I still felt I shouldn't have spent though it was nice. It is the B7 that made me jump up and realize this was the most impactful hifi product I have heard after speakers. Listening to Trinity made me feel like I did with those other dacs, it was just another dac, good, but just another costly toy.

The other permanent product in my system is the Shun Mook diamond resonators. I sold off Stillpoints immediately, and I take them along to a lot of other audiophiles places who all prefer the Shun Mooks diamond resonators to whatever they have - stillpoints, symposium, etc. Put the Ultra or Giant diamond resonators under the Big 7 and your pre and you will see a tremendous lift in performance. Greg, the UK Lampi distributor, will tell you the same thing, I had put them under the dac at his place. Since then both of us also bought the Shun Mook power valve resonators for the rectifier on the Lampi. The valve resonators and the mpingo discs are small tweaks, but the diamond resonators are massive tweaks, and must haves IMO.


bonzo75

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Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #91 on: 18 Apr 2015, 01:32 pm »
USB is awesome for sure just like the exchange rate now , the exchange rate on my Psu was not good at all

I would like to know what power cables people found to have made a massive impact on the B7. So far the Tara Cobalt is my running favorite.

wisnon

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #92 on: 18 Apr 2015, 01:49 pm »
Yes, out of Austria.  My wife detests my current speakers and wants me to get the Pharaohs purely on aesthetics.  In the US, the show a lot with Viva (which I own).

What are your current speaks?


wisnon

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #93 on: 18 Apr 2015, 01:52 pm »
A heard some version of Lector CDP at Axpona in Atlanta several years back along with the German Vocative Arpeggio and it was one of my favorite sounds at the show.  Old school digital but it was magic.

Ines Adler makes the Voxativ Ampeggio and the Due. Very nice and very pricey. She loved my SuperCD and UltraCD and that is why I got such a loong demo at the show…unprecedented, I am told. LoL





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bonzo75

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Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #94 on: 18 Apr 2015, 01:54 pm »
Ines Adler makes the Voxativ Ampeggio and the Due. Very nice and very pricey. She loved my SuperCD and UltraCD and that is why I got such a loong demo at the show…unprecedented, I am told. LoL

That's the Voxativ Ampeggio Due I heard, $100k, I think http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?16600-Horn-Porn-tour-1-Voxativ-Ampeggio-Due


Geardaddy

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #95 on: 18 Apr 2015, 02:14 pm »
Hi yes, Around 2 years ago I had compared it to a Weiss, Meitner, and AR Dac 8 and preferred the Meitner. After that I heard it separately in another system. My impression of it was it was neutral and detailed, but it was like any other dac, maybe more detailed, but not special. Tbh I am not an upgrader for the sake of upgrading. I was very happy with an used AR dac 8 purchased at 2k GBP, and I thought all the 'upgrades' to Weiss, Meitner, and CAD were a waste of money despite those dacs being better. I found diminishing returns in dacs pretty quickly. Even when I upgraded to the Lampi 5 I still felt I shouldn't have spent though it was nice. It is the B7 that made me jump up and realize this was the most impactful hifi product I have heard after speakers. Listening to Trinity made me feel like I did with those other dacs, it was just another dac, good, but just another costly toy.

The other permanent product in my system is the Shun Mook diamond resonators. I sold off Stillpoints immediately, and I take them along to a lot of other audiophiles places who all prefer the Shun Mooks diamond resonators to whatever they have - stillpoints, symposium, etc. Put the Ultra or Giant diamond resonators under the Big 7 and your pre and you will see a tremendous lift in performance. Greg, the UK Lampi distributor, will tell you the same thing, I had put them under the dac at his place. Since then both of us also bought the Shun Mook power valve resonators for the rectifier on the Lampi. The valve resonators and the mpingo discs are small tweaks, but the diamond resonators are massive tweaks, and must haves IMO.

The 7 is indeed a quantum leap over other dacs.  I use Sistrum stands from Starsound technology which are good.  I have not heard the Shun Mook stuff

Geardaddy

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #96 on: 18 Apr 2015, 02:16 pm »
What are your current speaks?

Dale's which are superb but the aesthetics are a little sarcophagus-like (according to Heather)....

Geardaddy

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #97 on: 18 Apr 2015, 02:17 pm »
Ines Adler makes the Voxativ Ampeggio and the Due. Very nice and very pricey. She loved my SuperCD and UltraCD and that is why I got such a loong demo at the show…unprecedented, I am told. LoL

I remember that vignette.  I am jealous of your easy exposure to lots of audio jewelry in Europe.  Very nice....

wisnon

Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #98 on: 18 Apr 2015, 03:11 pm »
The 7 is indeed a quantum leap over other dacs.  I use Sistrum stands from Starsound technology which are good.  I have not heard the Shun Mook stuff

Shun Mook seem to be the real deal…

The Dale speakers are aural candy…I would hate to see you give them up. (if looks are important, then Vienna Acoustics speakers are gorgeous). If innovation is important then Fischer+Fisher granite speakers are to be considered. Talk about INERT cabinet. Me, I love Heil tweeters and the Kithara would be my best choice.

Yes, the ampeggio Dues are very nice…same one that Bonzo linked. Saw them at the Zurich show. Ines shows with JoSound normally and Joe is a very good pal. I need to give him a call.

bonzo75

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Re: Lampizator and Turntables
« Reply #99 on: 18 Apr 2015, 03:26 pm »
Anima and that Berlin horn I.linked in a previous post much better IMO.

I have to decide if I go Anima or AA route. If I do AA, GT audio planar is a consideration as I can also blend it to MCH. For both the Anima and the AA Amphitryon I need to buy a slightly bigger flat.