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Industry Circles => Daedalus Audio => Topic started by: Sébastien on 12 Jan 2020, 09:59 am
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Hello, I am new here and I am very happy to join you. I am French and I discovered last August when searching for my new speaker the Daedalus manufacture on the web. In France, Daedalus is very little known. The first thing that I liked most was the manufacture of solid wood boxes, I am very sensitive to the quality of manufacture of a product. Then, Lou's personality, background, and philosophy of research and work also please me a lot. Lou is a person of high quality and very available.
After this discovery, I read you a lot on this forum and with Lou, you convinced me through your various testimonies and technical explanation that Daedalus Audio was exceptional. 4 months later, I ordered Lou a pair of Apollo 11 in cooked maple and these dedicated Wywires cables and the DID set.
I am now like a child very impatient to receive his package, especially since for me the surprise will be immense because I have never heard a Daedalus speaker, that is to say all the confidence that I make you.
I promise you photos of the system as soon as I receive the Apollo 11 and my feelings over time.
Thank you all, thank you to Lou and happy new year 2020 full of good and beautiful music.
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Welcome to the Daedalus family Sebastin! Hopefully you will be very happy with your speakers when you get them. Be patient with break-in and enjoy
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BTW, I live in the States and bought mine (Argos V2s) without hearing them as well. No regrets at all
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Congratulations Sebastien. I’m sure you’ll be over the moon about them. Beautiful speakers indeed.
Cheers,
Lester
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Hi Sebastian
Welcome
NIce to hear someone from France finding Lou’s fabulous speakers and reaching out to this community.
I own a pair of Ulysses and am also soon receiving a pair or Apollo 11s in burnt maple as well.
Having heard and seen Lou’s pair you are in for a real treat
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Welcome to the family Sebastien!
It has been fun build a pair of baked maple APollo 11s together, will be posting some pics of the build soon!
cheers,
Lou
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Sebastien,
Welcome to the Daedalus Family , I have visited France plenty of times and love the place , favorite being of course Paris and South of France
I own a pair of Daedalus Poseidon's since Feb. 2018 and am very happy with them you did a smart thing by ordering the the Wywire cables they really open up the system specially the Daedalus Speaker cables , although along with the SC I own 2 sets of the Diamond IC , one pair between my Pre-amp and my mono block amps and one pair between my DAC & the Pre- just amazed at the prefect resolution I get ! You are in for a treat !. What electronic- gear are you going to be using with your Apollo 11 ? :thumb:
Asghar
Tracy, CA.
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Hello Sebastien,
Excitement, then patience. When they finally arrive they are beautiful. But then there is break-in and a roller coaster of change.
I’ve had my Apollo 11’s for just over a year now and am quite happy with them. There are many intangibles but knowing the craft involved in their creation is part of the joy of ownership. I believe you will be quite happy with them. They will sound like whatever you feed them.
If you have any questions I’m sure Lou and the community here will be quite helpful in your quest.
Greg
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Hello and thank you all for your welcome. To answer Asghar, I have electronics from French artisans. Drice CD and converters were manufactured by Audiomat, Drive D1 and Maestro Reference converter, these are the best models from the manufacturer. Then my preamplifier and my two mono amplifiers are Cairn (Nanda North Face and amplifier K1 North Face). Everything is transistor.
It's possible that later I switch to LTA, I will ask everyone and especially Lou for his advice. I have read a lot about Daedalus speakers and it seems that LTA products are perfectly suited for these speakers.
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I use the LTA Microzotl Preamp and LTA Ultralinear amp with the Apollo 11’s. An excellent match. Very resolved, no noise, quick, dynamic, and musical. All of the stereo-typical adjectives apply :D
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Sebastien's speakers breaking in...unfortunately because of Covid they can't ship to France but the good news is that when Sebatien gets them they will be fully broken in!
He and his wife requested a flamed baked maple baffle instead of the standard quartersawn walnut... I like the look! :thumb:
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Imagine my dear friends how impatient I find myself :duh:. But all that is not serious compared to this situation which we all cross, it is a very difficult situation for all the people. Currently, only one weapon works against the Covid 19, stay isolated, believe our experience that we live in Europe.
A very big thank you to Lou for his magnificent work and all the care he brings to these pretty tiger devils!
Be well and be very careful.
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Sebastian
YOur Apollo 11s are gorgeous.
Another work of art heirloom from Lou
Photos don’t do them justice.
I just received mine two weeks ago and I couldn’t be happier.
Even though you will be waiting on them
Lou will be breaking them in with his top flight Lapizator and LTA amps.
Congratulations
Tom
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Sebastian,
A belated welcome to the Daedalus family. Your speakers are absolutely gorgeous. As an Apollo 11 owner, I assure you they will sound fantastic. The tonal accuracy, smoothness and effortless detail will blow you away.
Stay safe and hopefully Lou will be able to ship them soon. Looking forward to hearing your impressions.
Laura
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Hello everyone, the Apollo 11s arrived yesterday after a long travel of over 5600 miles. The packages are in perfect condition and the speakers too, it is a relief for me.
This first day was a discovery of the product, they are magnificent and of a very high quality of manufacture. Bravo to Lou and his Daedalus Audio team. I took half a day to properly place them in the room, wedge them, level them ...
The first listening upset me, no wow effect but an incredible quality of timbre and sound space.
I will give myself time to listen and then describe my feelings about these beautiful speakers that are these Apollo 11.
are you well.
Sébastien.
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Beautiful! Congratulations on some gorgeous speakers. I’m sure you will enjoy them for a long time. Nice work Lou.
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Give them 200 hours to break in .
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Beautiful speakers! They should be fully broken in by now. I wonder if the speakers would benefit from being pulled further from the front wall into the room?
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Yes you are right Borism this speakers will be in a large dedicated room where they will be positioned far from the walls and with an angle of about 10 ° as Lou positions them during the demonstrations. I find this idea very ingenious to break the room's resonances.
Always observe the masters and the experts.
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Congratulations, Sebastien. Enjoy!
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Enjoy! As stated above give them time to break-in
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Sebastien,
I find my Poseidon's worked best about 4.75 feet away from the front wall, approximately 11.75 feet apart with no toe in as the Speakers do have tweeter offsets ( Toe in were not that great for me got a wider soundstage without toe in. Use an spl meter to fine tune your listening levels. My listening position is about 14 feet from the speakers for near field critical listening I have a chair placed about 8 feet away from the Speakers, Nirvana. it took me approximately 3/4 weeks to fine tune the speakers and about 200 hours for them to break in . In your case because of the delay I believe Lou has already broke in the speakers .
They really do "Sing" with GR8 amps. :thumb:
Asghar
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Sebastien
I was wondering how you were fairing with your speakers coming 1/2 way across the world during the Covid crisis.
Looks like Lou let the ship set sail nicely on your maiden voyage
So good to hear they made it safe and sound. Congratulations
Dial in your positioning, when it’s viable - listen with the grills off.
Is your cable broken in?
Daedalus speakers are very resolving, revealing and true to what signal they are fed.
I just updated my dac in response to what I was hearing
Now my digital front end sounds analog!
Based on my experiences with the Apollo 11s and the Ulysses they are sensitive to any component, cable, the room and especially source material that is lacking. Don’t worry it doesn’t take much = mostly attention to detail to optimize your sound
They are not intended to wow you in a show room = but rather engage you in a most natural way.
Lou absolutely nailed that.
You will find yourself lost in the music all evening not quickly suffering from listener fatigue After a few cds.
I am about 300 hours into my journey and in awe of what I am hearing with The 11’s
I have been wowed by my Ulysses the last 5 years And this has taken things to a whole new level
All the best in your journey
It would be useful to hear your insights. System, and room details, a few photos give good inght and what music you like listening to
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The Apollos 11 traveled by plane, Lou was very intelligent and knew how to take advantage of a window to allow this shipment for a very short period where covid 19 was a little less fierce. You really have to be very careful.
I take pleasure in listening to these magnificent loudspeakers, I will do an analysis in several parts, so much there is to say. I don't know if the Apollos are running in or if it's my ears that acclimatize to Daedalus, but it's getting better and better. I will write to you this fall. A small preview photo of the system (we are not in the final room which will be larger). You will notice that my head is straight again, the photo is in the right position!
Thanks everyone.
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Sabastien
This may be a question with an obvious answer but, was installing the speaker DIDs a 2 person job, or did you find a way to insert them by yourself. If by yourself can you give me a sense of how you did it. I want to get a set fro my Argos but I am a one person house and with Covid not looking for visitors masked or not
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I was on my own to take them out of the boxes and put them in place and I can give you a technique that works well without committing the least shock to these magnificent cabinets.
To take them out of the box, you have to lay the box on the floor, back side against the ground, unblock the bottom of the box, put the box upright and remove the box by lifting it upwards gently.
Then, you have to lay the speaker face behind on the floor placed on a very thick fabric and pull this fabric to the location then lift the speakers gently.
Finally, if you have SPIDs, you put the speakers upright on a large wedge, aim for the spikes and then you tilt the speaker a little to remove the wedge and you just have to adjust the plumb and the orientation.
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Thanks Sebastien, I will order the dids and try the wedge technique
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If you have a friend handy try just leaning them forward or back or side to side to mount spikes and SPIDS. I spent time on placement before the spikes as it gets harder to move them around.
Alan
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On my smaller speakers (Muse) I was able to tilt one sideways, and fit 2 spikes on the raised side. Then I tilted it the other was to put on the other spikes. I repeated that procedure with the SPIDs, taking care to center them under the points of the spikes.
Moving the speakers with the spikes/SPIDs underneath, on my carpet takes a careful touch, with frequent re-adjusting of the moving parts.
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I Like Sebastien's technique,
My Poseidon weigh the same 120 Lbs height 51.5" 16" deep except Apollo are 15 " wide the Poseidon's are 11 " wide I did more or less the same as what Sebastien did, except when I packed them it was a little different I used 2 thick blankets than had my son hold the coffee table with both his hands and layed then on the back side since I have stands on those not DID s. Once I got the stands off ! had two more blankets on the carpet in the living room took the inside material that came with the boxes and taped them to hold them in place . the ceiling in my formal room ( not my living room where they speakers are normally place is only 9' ) is about 14/15 feet so it was easy to slip the boxes over the inside packing . But then once again had my son help me lay the boxes on the side so i could tape them . Lifted them back again on a hand truck & brought them into the garage , sprayed the boxes with sanitizer .
Unbelievable as it may sound the FedEx young man who was short and pretty stocky just lifted each box ! (125 lbs each )over his shoulder and place them in a truck :thumb: :popcorn:
hope this helps anyone who maybe in the process of doing this !
Asghar
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I received my speaker DIDs today after a little hick-up with the PO delivery. I went to HomeDepot and bought a WINBAG MAX pump it up wedge. I placed a thin board on the floor under the speaker to give a little extra height, rested the WINBAG on top of that and then pumped the WINBAG up under my Argos. Speaker rocked a little but I was able to hold it on the side with one hand and rest the front of the speaker against me while I put the DIDs in place on the rear first with my free hand and then easily put the DIDs in place in the front.
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Try to put it with good source, you will got more soundstage and airy.
I connected with my wadia, the sound was pure clean, sweat and good bass. Especially I like female vocal with the Little.
The little is the winner at this price.
Nice Day
Pal