front loaded Horn plans for 10 and 12 inch full range drivers

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Peyman

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hello
i  have a Oris 150 horn for my 8 inch full ranges
i have 10 and 12 inch full ranges, does anybody has a suggestion for a  front loaded horn plan for these  drivers?

Peyman

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hello everyone
« Reply #1 on: 15 Mar 2024, 07:17 pm »
hello everyone
today i joined the site
as audiophile for 15 years i am interested in simple and low stage SET amps , front loaded Horns and r2r digital sources
mostly two way horns with full range drivers(not compressor) with passive crossovers

Phil A

Welcome!  Check out sites like Madisound and Parts Express for drivers

Peyman

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i mean plans for horns not drivers

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Hi, for 8'' FR my favorite plan are the new Frugal Horn, seems the correct name is Carina, Iam not sure.
https://www.frugal-horn.com/index.html

For 12'' FR drivers I would suggest the Lii Audio F12 in a Bass Reflex box, a BR box is always better than a huge horn IMO, or better yet the famous F15 $399/pair in the Lii Audio recommended plan at botton of the page.
https://www.lii-audio.com/product/recommended-15-full-range-speaker-driver-for-music-loudspeaker-with-tube-amplifier-f-15-in-pair/

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i mean plans for horns not drivers
So far I have never see 12'' horn in US.
I remember something in Germany many years ago.
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Peyman

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thanks
i want something like the one in this post:
https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=92515.0
  i want "front" loaded horn

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thanks
i want something like the one in this post:
https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=92515.0
  i want "front" loaded horn
This is a OB it have no box in back by what I can see.
In this case I suggest you the Lii Audio F15 $399/pair in the usual OB Barrels baffle.

Phil A

i mean plans for horns not drivers

Madisound also sells kits - https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/speaker-kits/ and Parts Express has some too but not specifically for horms

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Re: front loaded Horn plans for 10 and 12 inch full range drivers
« Reply #10 on: 16 Mar 2024, 12:15 pm »
Large horns have coloration issues due to "flimsy" panels (must be extremely stiff to resist small vibrations and high pressures). 

richidoo

Re: front loaded Horn plans for 10 and 12 inch full range drivers
« Reply #11 on: 16 Mar 2024, 01:48 pm »
Some front horn inspirations:
https://inlowsound.weebly.com/

Since large diameter full range cones are already highly directional at upper frequencies they are not often paired with front horns. The horn makes a smaller diameter cone behave like a larger driver with less distortion and less beaming. Larger drivers often better suited to bass horns. But innovation is the fun of diy so give it a try!

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Re: front loaded Horn plans for 10 and 12 inch full range drivers
« Reply #12 on: 17 Mar 2024, 05:36 am »
right actually 8 inchers are more detailed and suited for full range duty
but my 12 inch is field coil and i wanted to try that in front horn like 8 , so anyway i think open baffle is the way to go for 12 inch

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Re: front loaded Horn plans for 10 and 12 inch full range drivers
« Reply #13 on: 17 Mar 2024, 01:01 pm »
What are your FCs?

lokie

Re: front loaded Horn plans for 10 and 12 inch full range drivers
« Reply #14 on: 17 Mar 2024, 01:21 pm »
RCA Fan's 70 Hz horn here:https://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/vt.mpl?f=hug&m=174097
Also check out Inlow Sound website.

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Re: front loaded Horn plans for 10 and 12 inch full range drivers
« Reply #15 on: 19 Mar 2024, 08:57 pm »
What are your FCs?

8 inches are supravox 215 alnico
12 are telefunken alnico

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Re: front loaded Horn plans for 10 and 12 inch full range drivers
« Reply #16 on: 19 Mar 2024, 09:00 pm »
RCA Fan's 70 Hz horn here:https://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/vt.mpl?f=hug&m=174097
Also check out Inlow Sound website.

Actually i am looking for a front loaded straight horn for 10 or 12 inch full range , bass would be separate enclosure 

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Re: front loaded Horn plans for 10 and 12 inch full range drivers
« Reply #17 on: 19 Mar 2024, 11:29 pm »
I will move this topic to the Single Driver Circle.

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You can use Tractrix curve like your Oris horn or the Le’Cleach curve scale up for the 12” driver, I have done square Tractrix horns with my 12” field coil drivers, it was build out of 2”x6” solid hardwood planks shaped and glue together. It is a lot of work and expense and be sure your drivers are worth the effort.

Peyman

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You can use Tractrix curve like your Oris horn or the Le’Cleach curve scale up for the 12” driver, I have done square Tractrix horns with my 12” field coil drivers, it was build out of 2”x6” solid hardwood planks shaped and glue together. It is a lot of work and expense and be sure your drivers are worth the effort.

how exactly to scale up? with any particular software?