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My LIO will arrive on Friday which was ordered shortly after Axpona. AC member TomS brought his and hooked them up to the Clayton Shaw designed Spatial M3 Turbo S and it kicked ass. I had a special request for Vinnie and he made it happen! All will be revealed but this is the first like it but not the last. I'm sure. :green:
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Congrats Jason!
I hope to be able to pair the LIO and the Spatial M3 Turbo S speakers by the end of the month. Worst case, early June.
Tomorrow I will get my LIO DAC upgraded so it can power the microRendu.
Good times. :dance: :dance: :dance:
George
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All will be revealed but this is the first like it but not the last.
:green: :green: :green: :green: :green:
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:green: :green: :green: :green: :green:
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Congrats Jason!
I hope to be able to pair the LIO and the Spatial M3 Turbo S speakers by the end of the month. Worst case, early June.
Tomorrow I will get my LIO DAC upgraded so it can power the microRendu.
Good times. :dance: :dance: :dance:
George
Great George! I think you will be absolutely stunned with them. I really do. Nice on the µRendu power option. I ordered the DSD Dac with the power option too. Why not!?!? :lol:
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Spit the beans J! What is your customization?!?! :hyper:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo)
Great show!
George
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Today is the day! :hyper:
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Today is the day!
...when you and Vinnie will reveal what's new. ;)
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Spit the beans J! What is your customization?!?! :hyper:
...when you and Vinnie will reveal what's new. ;)
How about now?
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How about now?
Make a video and put it on youtube, I could wait a bit longer. ;)
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Make a video and put it on youtube, I could wait a bit longer. ;)
I have ZERO time for that but good idea.
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I have ZERO time for that but good idea.
Ok, I admit, I cannot wait anymore. :)
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Ok, I admit, I cannot wait anymore. :)
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Before Axpona I spoke to Vinnie seriously about a LIO. I had a request and he said he would contact Dave Slagle to find out cost and availability. Well, needless to say the AVC-S/Tubestage was built for me. AVC-S (Silver Autoformers). :green:
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Well, needless to say the AVC-S/Tubestage was built for me. AVC-S (Silver Autoformers). :green:
Sounds cool, but how does it sound compared to the regular one? Give us some more details/background for this, please.
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Sounds cool, but how does it sound compared to the regular one? Give us some more details/background for this, please.
I've heard the silver AVC's in a another solution and it was incredible. The only way I was doing the LIO was with the silver autoformers. :D
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I've heard the silver AVC's in a another solution and it was incredible. The only way I was doing the LIO was with the silver autoformers. :D
What's the premium one needs to pay for silver one?
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What's the premium one needs to pay for silver one?
You really don't want to know. I'll let Vinnie answer that. :o
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You really don't want to know.
Given the price difference between copper and silver, I really do not. :nono:
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Given the price difference between copper and silver, I really do not. :nono:
:oops:
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Playing music! :drool:
All black LIO including knobs
AVC-S/Tube stage (Silver Autoformers)
DSD Dac with µRendu power from Ultracapacitors
Headphone Amp (HPA)
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Playing music! :drool:
All black LIO including knobs
AVC-S/Tube stage (Silver Autoformers)
DSD Dac with µRendu power from Ultracapacitors
Headphone Amp (HPA)
Congrats!
How about a pic or two of the inside?
My updated DAC with microRendu power connector just arrived.
George
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(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142935)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142936)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142937)
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Nice!
I like black/black knobs/silver top.
Are the silver autoformers visible in that pic? Just curiosity, that's all.
You liking?
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Nice!
I like black/black knobs/silver top.
Good news is that with Vinnie Rossi you can get exactly what you want. :thumb:
Are the silver autoformers visible in that pic? Just curiosity, that's all.
You liking?
No, and yes, it's badass. :green:
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jtwrace--very interesting build. Congratulations. I would guess Vinnie does a certain amount of playing of each unit before they leave for QC purposes. It will be interesting to read his impressions on presentation differences between website published AVC tubed, your Silver tubed AVC and DHT.
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jtwrace--very interesting build. Congratulations. I would guess Vinnie does a certain amount of playing of each unit before they leave for QC purposes. It will be interesting to read his impressions on presentation differences between website published AVC tubed, your Silver tubed AVC and DHT.
Yes he does. I'll let him comment on that if/when he feels like it.
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jtwrace, what was your reasoning in going with AVC over the new DHT?
thanks
Chris
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jtwrace, what was your reasoning in going with AVC over the new DHT?
thanks
Chris
Well, a couple of things really. First, I have a TAP-X from Bent Audio which I just love. I never did the Silver AVC's in it b/c there are four of them and I just could never swallow the cost. :o That said the only way I was doing the LIO was with Silver AVC's as I heard them compared to the copper and I was shocked. Yes, it was blind too. As for the DHT, quite frankly, I"m just not into that but I'm sure it's spectacular. The good news is Vinnie has many levels and options to suite everyone and their budget. That's what makes the LIO so cool. 8)
I have two friends that own LIO's and they love them. I haven't really understood their love affair they have with it until this week. My LIO isn't going back to Vinnie. No way! It's more than I ever expected on many levels and I look forward to the next iteration of modules too.
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I have the silver AVCs in my balanced Bent Tap-X, and love them. The cost did make me wince, but it was a purchase to last a lifetime, so I paid the price and am thrilled with the result.
I briefly pondered the idea for the AVC/Tubestage in my LIO, but since the LIO was destined for a second system, I couldn't quite justify it to myself and never even asked Vinnie about the option. Of course, now the idea gnaws at me a bit...
(I've never been overly inclined toward tubes, though not for any clearly defined reason, but I do want to play with tubes in my AVC/Tubestage at some point to see what the potential is. Something else on the never-ending list...)
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I have the silver AVCs in my balanced Bent Tap-X, and love them. The cost did make me wince, but it was a purchase to last a lifetime, so I paid the price and am thrilled with the result.
I briefly pondered the idea for the AVC/Tubestage in my LIO, but since the LIO was destined for a second system, I couldn't quite justify it to myself and never even asked Vinnie about the option. Of course, now the idea gnaws at me a bit...
(I've never been overly inclined toward tubes, though not for any clearly defined reason, but I do want to play with tubes in my AVC/Tubestage at some point to see what the potential is. Something else on the never-ending list...)
The good news with the AVC/Tubestage is that Vinnie supplies you with a jumper so you can bypass the tubes without signal degradation. ;)
I'd say it's time for you to order the Silver AVC LIO! :D
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My only issue with the LIO so far is that I stay up way too late listening. :sleep:
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Thanks for sharing your opinion. Much appreciated.
Well, a couple of things really. First, I have a TAP-X from Bent Audio which I just love. I never did the Silver AVC's in it b/c there are four of them and I just could never swallow the cost. :o That said the only way I was doing the LIO was with Silver AVC's as I heard them compared to the copper and I was shocked. Yes, it was blind too. As for the DHT, quite frankly, I"m just not into that but I'm sure it's spectacular. The good news is Vinnie has many levels and options to suite everyone and their budget. That's what makes the LIO so cool. 8)
I have two friends that own LIO's and they love them. I haven't really understood their love affair they have with it until this week. My LIO isn't going back to Vinnie. No way! It's more than I ever expected on many levels and I look forward to the next iteration of modules too.
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You really don't want to know. I'll let Vinnie answer that. :o
Did Vinnie say that he was going to release Silver Autoformers as an option or upgrade?
Steve
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All,
The LIO SILVER AVC/TUBESTAGE is something that I do not plan to offer on our website, but still might entertain
doing a few more on a custom basis. The price difference between standard LIO AVC/Tubestage and
LIO SILVER AVC/TUBSTAGE is approx. $2K (Slagle silver AVCs are NOT cheap!).
No doubt about it - the Silver AVCs are an even 'more open window' to the music. The differences start in the
upper midrange, and continue all the way up into the upper treble. They are super clean, clear, open, and airy. That's
where I really notice the improvement. The nice part is that they are NOT bright. I know silver sometimes gets a bad reputation for being brighter, more forward, etc. Not this time... these sound very natural. :)
So why not add them as another option at this time? :dunno:
Simple. I want to avoid having too many options for the LIO linestage. I need to streamline things a bit more going forward,
and for this I plan to offer the following options for LIO Preamp and Integrated amp configurations:
- RVC + Tubestage ("Level 1")
- AVC/Tubestage ("Level 2")
- DHT PRE ("Level 3")
That being said - if LIO SILVER AVC/TUBESTAGE is something that you are really interested in, please email me... it will have more
lead-time, but I will still offer them on a custom basis.
My only issue with the LIO so far is that I stay up way too late listening. :sleep:
Hi jtwrace,
I know that problem very well! :oops: Glad you are enjoying it!
Vinnie
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The good news with the AVC/Tubestage is that Vinnie supplies you with a jumper so you can bypass the tubes without signal degradation. ;)
Can someone clarify this a bit, please?
If one doesn't use the jumper than all the outputs (Phono, DAC, Analog) are configured to use tubes as and output stage, correct? This ACV/Tubestage is than used as an preamplifier for the AMP module, correct?
If one uses the jumper then there are no tubes and something else is used as a preamplifier or there is no preamplifier at all but the outputs (Phono, DAC, Analog) go directly to the AMP module? :?
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Can someone clarify this a bit, please?
If one doesn't use the jumper than all the outputs (Phono, DAC, Analog) are configured to use tubes as and output stage, correct? This ACV/Tubestage is than used as an preamplifier for the AMP module, correct?
If one uses the jumper then there are no tubes and something else is used as a preamplifier or there is no preamplifier at all but the outputs (Phono, DAC, Analog) go directly to the AMP module? :?
Hi mirekti,
On the LIO AVC/TUBESTAGE board, there are 2 jumper settings. One is for using the module as only an AVC module (no tubestage
following the AVCs). The other settings (default) is for the AVC + Tubestage.
The AVC is the volume control (passive). The Tubestage that follows it is a buffer (cathode follower).
Vinnie
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Telefunkens have been installed!
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=143119)
Thanks TomS, Vinnie and Kevin at Upscale Audio. :thumb:
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Telefunkens have been installed!
Thanks TomS, Vinnie and Kevin at Upscale Audio. :thumb:
Those are nice tubes...at some point I need to try them and see if I like them better than my Siemens CCA grey plates.
George
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Those are nice tubes...at some point I need to try them and see if I like them better than my Siemens CCA grey plates.
George
Have Vinnie bring them for you to try next time. ;) If not, I'll send you mine to try. It's an expensive thing to just try...
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My LIO is here to stay! Not going back to Vinnie. :thumb:
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Those are nice tubes...at some point I need to try them and see if I like them better than my Siemens CCA grey plates.
George
Have you tried the Telefunkens yet?
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Have you tried the Telefunkens yet?
I have not.
Too busy doing DAC and microRendu comparisons.
George
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Too busy doing DAC and microRendu comparisons.
Some people would love to have that problem :green:
Where/when can we read your listening impressions with the microRendu?
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Some people would love to have that problem :green:
Where/when can we read your listening impressions with the microRendu?
Soon.
Need to stop listening and spend the time writing up my notes.
George
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Soon.
Need to stop listening and spend the time writing up my notes.
George
Looking forward to that thread!
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Looking forward to that thread!
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jtwrace, did you note your observations between the LIO/microrendu and the Aries/Vega as well as any other combination of those components? If so, where can I read them?
Best,
Ed
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jtwrace, did you note your observations between the LIO/microrendu and the Aries/Vega as well as any other combination of those components? If so, where can I read them?
Best,
Ed
I haven't. There are some on CA though by other members. Currently I'll say that the µRendu is my primary bridge though.
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I'm so very much enjoying my Silver AVC/Tubestage. It's just so fun to listen to and amusing when I look at my rack with one box on it. :lol: If the DHT is "better" than this I don't know what to say. Guess I'll find out in about a month. :o