Questions about OB servo subs

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tomlinmgt

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Questions about OB servo subs
« on: Today at 12:59 pm »
I've built a few non-servo controlled h-frame subs in the past using both Alpha 15a and AE Dipole 15, so I'm somewhat acquainted with the sonic characteristics of h-frame OB subs.  Despite all of their merits, the one major shortcoming I had trouble coming to terms with is their inability to reach higher SPL's below around 40Hz. In a 20x22x8 room, I could maybe achieve SPL's in the high 80's with the Alpha 15's and low to mid 90's with the Dipole 15's...far from being able to meet my objective which to approach or recreate a live music event (drums and percussion, in particular since I'm a drummer).  I understand that the 12" servo drivers have a good bit of excursion and are well controlled/powered by the servo feature, but without any sort of box loading is it unrealistic to expect them to meet my objective? Would a double trouble or triple threat get me there in a 19x26x vaulted ceiling to 14' space? I'm currently using a pair of JBL 4648 bass bins which gives me a total of four 15" high sensitivity drivers (2226) with extended ports to lower port tuning frequency to around 30Hz.  With around 300wpc, they can play over 100db at 30 Hz with no evidence of strain, so that's where my personal bar is set.  Seismic infrasonic bass isn't such a high priority for me, but it would be nice to have good extension into the lower 20's. But for certain, I want to be able to recreate the tactile sensation of a bass drum or deep pipe organ note like I can with the ported bass bins, but obviously with the merits of OB bass (musical, textured, no box coloration, less room interaction) and without the issues of bass from a boxed enclosure.
Also, what is the reliability record for the servo amps? And are they serviceable by a competent tech in the event they ever need repair?

Huskerbryce

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Re: Questions about OB servo subs
« Reply #1 on: Today at 02:55 pm »
I have 2 double trouble OB subs.  My room is smaller 19x26x9.  I employ 3 sealed servo 15” subs to compliment my OB subs.  However, during music applications I sometimes only run the OB subs.  During many music recordings they sound way more “musical”.  During live concert listening I turn the sealed subs on.  They provide the room loading you would expect.  As far as SPL, I have never tested the OB subs to their limits but I do know 100db is easy to hit.  You would be very happy with them for music.  Id keep your big ones to blend in the low low end.

Early B.

Re: Questions about OB servo subs
« Reply #2 on: Today at 03:21 pm »
I have three double troubles in a 13x20 room and have no problems hitting 20Hz. For your room size, I'd recommend a pair of triples and an additional pair of 15" sealed servo subs in the rear when you really want to rock out. GR Research OB servo subs are the best option for music, especially since you're a drummer and want to hear all the nuances of life-like drums. I'll bet they'll surpass the sound quality of your previous H-frame sub builds, even the venerable AE dipole 15.

Glady86

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Re: Questions about OB servo subs
« Reply #3 on: Today at 04:29 pm »
What about two OB six pack towers  :lol: like others recommended, you probably need the big bass bins plus triple OB subs.

JCarney

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Re: Questions about OB servo subs
« Reply #4 on: Today at 04:54 pm »
HAL at Hollis Audio Labs has made modular open baffle frames that use the GR drivers and Rythmik amps so you can add drivers as needed. I provided a link so you can at least see the frames.

https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=189217.0

JCarney

Glady86

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Re: Questions about OB servo subs
« Reply #5 on: Today at 05:00 pm »
I have the modular type subs. Only have two per side or doubles. Nice way to start, then you can add more if desired. They bolt together.

Tyson

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Re: Questions about OB servo subs
« Reply #6 on: Today at 05:01 pm »
The Servo's definitely have more output than the Alphas.  I run the doubles in my upstairs system (music) and the triples in my downstairs system (HT). 

For a space like yours the triples might be enough but it'll be close.  If you really want to be safe I'd add a sealed 15" sub in the back of the room.  Or the suggestion for a full array of 6 servo's will get you there, overkill is my favorite mode.