What does everyone want in a DAC?

eclein · « **Reply #40 on:** 31 Dec 2011, 12:47 am »

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Great news Seth!!! Give your bride a kiss for all of us and you and the crew there enjoy a great New Year.....

wsturner · « **Reply #41 on:** 31 Dec 2011, 12:50 am »

Damn! I just bought a Bifrost. O well...guess you can never have too many DAC's

Scott

abernardi · « **Reply #42 on:** 31 Dec 2011, 02:21 am »

And I was just breaking in my Audio-gd!

david45 · « **Reply #43 on:** 31 Dec 2011, 03:38 am »

Thanks for the update Seth I'm glad to hear things are coming along:)

So no tubes on the dac but is there any chance the tube buffer might be offered on the Three (optional)?

Jason T · « **Reply #44 on:** 31 Dec 2011, 03:53 pm »

Quote from: david45 on 31 Dec 2011, 03:38 am

Thanks for the update Seth I'm glad to hear things are coming along:)

So no tubes on the dac but is there any chance the tube buffer might be offered on the Three (optional)?

Gary offers an external buffer so its always an option.

rollo · « **Reply #45 on:** 31 Dec 2011, 04:32 pm »

Quote from: virtue on 31 Dec 2011, 12:44 am

Won't cost more than $1,000 and much less on pre-order. Virtue is still a charity

Love you brother!!!!

A very reasonable cost. An invert polarity switch could make it a David the Lion slayer.

charles

virtue · « **Reply #46 on:** 1 Jan 2012, 08:16 pm »

An "invert polarity" switch? Can you explain why that would be desirable and how it would be implemented?

Tubes would be part of a Sensation II offering but it's just too early to say. We prototyped dual, switchable tubes 3 years ago... The best laid plans often go astray...

Seth

jb26 · « **Reply #47 on:** 2 Jan 2012, 02:50 am »

Any chance of some proto-type pics so we can begin dreaming/fantasizing/drooling?

virtue · « **Reply #48 on:** 2 Jan 2012, 03:24 am »

It's gonna look a lot like the Virtue ONE.2. Most of the world still has no idea who we are and what our products look like so I hope you don't mind seeing more of the same

I quite like it!

planet10 · « **Reply #49 on:** 2 Jan 2012, 03:26 am »

Quote from: virtue on 31 Dec 2011, 12:16 am

Battery powerable.
USB 192 compatible, driverless on MAC.
Transformers, yes.
Digital stays digital (volume control exists but doesn't matter).
Analog stays analog.
2 x TOSLINK.
1 (or 2) x COAX.
Remote control.
Great headphone with hi/low outputs.
Small form factor.
No tubes.

I only really care about FireWire in... so i'd ask for a Thunderbolt port (min 24/196) which can be USB or Firewire (or a range of other things)

dave

srb · « **Reply #50 on:** 2 Jan 2012, 03:49 am »

Quote from: virtue on 2 Jan 2012, 03:24 am

It's gonna look a lot like the Virtue ONE.2. Most of the world still has no idea who we are and what our products look like so I hope you don't mind seeing more of the same I quite like it!

So you're saying it's not going to look like this?

BTW, this one has an Invert polarity switch !

david45 · « **Reply #51 on:** 2 Jan 2012, 04:14 am »

Quote from: virtue on 1 Jan 2012, 08:16 pm

An "invert polarity" switch? Can you explain why that would be desirable and how it would be implemented?

Tubes would be part of a Sensation II offering but it's just too early to say. We prototyped dual, switchable tubes 3 years ago... The best laid plans often go astray...

Seth

I'll keep my fingers crossed then

Thank you Seth and Happy New Year to the Virtue Audio family

virtue · « **Reply #52 on:** 3 Jan 2012, 08:23 am »

We'll have jason work up some "invert polarity" cables

Cable A for standard polarity, Cable B for inverted

Firewire... interesting but another module to build and put in there.

Why not USB 2.0? Is 480 Mb/s not enough bandwidth?

planet10 · « **Reply #53 on:** 3 Jan 2012, 08:48 am »

Quote from: virtue on 3 Jan 2012, 08:23 am

Why not USB 2.0? Is 480 Mb/s not enough bandwidth?

It isn't the speed its the finese.

dave

rollo · « **Reply #54 on:** 3 Jan 2012, 02:55 pm »

Quote from: virtue on 1 Jan 2012, 08:16 pm

An "invert polarity" switch? Can you explain why that would be desirable and how it would be implemented?

Tubes would be part of a Sensation II offering but it's just too early to say. We prototyped dual, switchable tubes 3 years ago... The best laid plans often go astray...

Seth

Hey Seth not all recordings are in correct polarity. Having , less sibilance with vocals and tighter deeper bass. Just a simple switch, thats it.

charles

eclein · « **Reply #55 on:** 3 Jan 2012, 03:02 pm »

Seth I believe most USB implementations in DACS are 2.0, I don't think 3.0 is really any kind of improvement in this scenario. Speed of signal doesn't effect fidelity does it??? I don't know for sure but I wouldn't think so....

+1 on the form factor Seth...It will match up with everyones Two.2 or One.2.......NICE!!!!!

Trismos · « **Reply #56 on:** 3 Jan 2012, 05:14 pm »

Quote from: rollo on 3 Jan 2012, 02:55 pm

Hey Seth not all recordings are in correct polarity. Having , less sibilance with vocals and tighter deeper bass. Just a simple switch, thats it.

charles

Not all tracks with-in a given recording are necessarily in phase either. Multi-speaker cabinets have phase problems. Much ado over nothing?

http://www.6moons.com/industryfeatures/polarity/polarity.html

Regards
Dave

Trismos · « **Reply #57 on:** 3 Jan 2012, 05:17 pm »

Quote from: eclein on 3 Jan 2012, 03:02 pm

Seth I believe most USB implementations in DACS are 2.0, I don't think 3.0 is really any kind of improvement in this scenario. Speed of signal doesn't effect fidelity does it??? I don't know for sure but I wouldn't think so....

+1 on the form factor Seth...It will match up with everyones Two.2 or One.2.......NICE!!!!!

I was hoping for the Melisa form factor Ed. Just show's it's tough to please everyone!

WC · « **Reply #58 on:** 3 Jan 2012, 05:30 pm »

Quote from: Trismos on 3 Jan 2012, 05:17 pm

I was hoping for the Melisa form factor Ed. Just show's it's tough to please everyone!

That may come later based on what Seth has said.

virtue · « **Reply #59 on:** 4 Jan 2012, 12:48 am »

We'll definitely work to put all of this in a Melissa chassis. I just need to see this working flawlessly in the small box before we "go big" and add an amp, etc.

There are a bunch of things on the board which only make sense in a Melissa chassis... for instance, an LCD panel, more inputs, balanced outputs, buffer I/O, etc.

Seth