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Industry Circles => Bryston Limited => Topic started by: 1ZIP on 28 Jan 2011, 03:47 am
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James...anybody?
I've had my Amp for about a year, It's always been pugged into the wall socket & I use it every day. Today I plugged it into my new Torus, turned the amp on and instead of a quiet red to green transition, the amp buzzes then the green lights come on.
Just curious what's going on and why it does it only when connected to to the Torus?
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Connected to the wall. Red lights with buzz then green.
Cheers
VK
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I have the same problem with a B100SST. Plugged into the wall it quietly goes from RED to GREEN. Plugged into my Torus it buzzes while RED and then goes quiet when GREEN.
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My 28B SST² amplifiers starts (Buzz) the same way because of a “soft start” power up (I do not have a Torus). I am wondering if the Torus unit also has a “soft start” power up sequence and this may be causing your amplifiers to Buzz like mine do.
Be well...
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My 4BSST2 does the same thing, it's plugged directly into the wall.
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same here, both when plugged directly into the wall and when plugged into my parrallel conditioner.
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I have a 14BSST2 and a Torus RM20 and I get the "buzz" :D when the red light comes on the amp and until it switches to green. I get it no matter if it is plugged in to the RM20 or a wall circuit.
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I have 7B SST2's with the " Torus transformers" and they do the power-up buzz until they stabilize ( lights turn green ) - they are then dead silent. I believe in the case of the 7's at least that this is a characteristic of these transformers as they "juice up " so I don't sweat it. I actually like that buzzzzz- It reminds me of the great power at my command and that I should only use it for good, not evil...think of your neighbors, guys! :D
D.
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My whole being shivers when my 28's go thru the softstart sequence zzzztclick,where's the wife.
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:lol: :lol:
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Forgot to mention,the 28's and 7B-sst have a deathgrip on my 60a(240v)Torus,or perhaps it's the
other way around.
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My whole being shivers when my 28's go thru the softstart sequence zzzztclick,where's the wife.
Perhaps could it be the....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v16KFXa2njo&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v16KFXa2njo&feature=related)
Be well...
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So,after all these years it's not true the:The girls get prettier at closin time.
He,She, either way not good,scary :o :lol:,good one.
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What you hear is inrush current: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inrush_current (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inrush_current). I have the same amp connected directly, and have the same buzz (1s). Maybe in your case ( connected to Torus) in more noticeable as it might limit(Torus) the amount of current... imho ..
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Okay..I think my few remaining brain cells have kicked in. The Torus provides instantaneous high current, the wall outlet does not, at least in my home. The inrush limiters in the amp protect against what the Torus provides initially, hence the buzzing.
So, I have lazy current flow in the house that doesn't ramp up fast enough to trip the amp limiters. I guess this is a good and bad situation. I get all the sonic benefits of the Torus at the risk of frying the amp if the limiters fail. On the other hand since I don't get high instantaneous current from the wall outlets the rest of the electrical appliances in the house are less subject to potential damage, hence possible longer life.
I think I got it.....who said the PhD went to waste!
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What?
Can you please explain further why you think that your wall has a lazy current flow. :scratch:
Okay..I think my few remaining brain cells have kicked in. The Torus provides instantaneous high current, the wall outlet does not, at least in my home. The inrush limiters in the amp protect against what the Torus provides initially, hence the buzzing.
So, I have lazy current flow in the house that doesn't ramp up fast enough to trip the amp limiters. I guess this is a good and bad situation. I get all the sonic benefits of the Torus at the risk of frying the amp if the limiters fail. On the other hand since I don't get high instantaneous current from the wall outlets the rest of the electrical appliances in the house are less subject to potential damage, hence possible longer life.
I think I got it.....who said the PhD went to waste!
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Well.....lazy current flow was a tongue in cheek comment as were others. All I'm saying is that I think it's the high instantaneous current available to the amp from the Torus that is sufficient to cause whatever is buzzing in the amp to buzz. Where as the current coming out of the wall isn't. I'm sure the inrush limiters work in either case but that's the original question what causes the buzzing in one case and not the other and what exactly is buzzing?
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What you guys really need is one of these installed in your backyard:
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Nap. :green:
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Well.....lazy current flow was a tongue in cheek comment as were others. All I'm saying is that I think it's the high instantaneous current available to the amp from the Torus that is sufficient to cause whatever is buzzing in the amp to buzz. Where as the current coming out of the wall isn't. I'm sure the inrush limiters work in either case but that's the original question what causes the buzzing in one case and not the other and what exactly is buzzing?
It's mechanical noise from toroid transformer core going into saturation.
The Torus will not give you more current then outlet. The idea with devices like Torus is to make galvanic insulation: ex. electric shock, line noise, ground loops, etc... between your equipment and outlet. But for amps, your much better of with outlet, 20A dedicated if possible. I think all of the Bryston amps have input filter for some basic power line parasites :)
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It's mechanical noise from toroid transformer core going into saturation.
The Torus will not give you more current then outlet. The idea with devices like Torus is to make galvanic insulation: ex. electric shock, line noise, ground loops, etc... between your equipment and outlet. But for amps, your much better of with outlet, 20A dedicated if possible. I think all of the Bryston amps have input filter for some basic power line parasites :)
I second this too!. I would just leave it alone with just a dedicated breaker 15A. :thumb:
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Wow, is that James's prototype for the new mini mono blocks ? :jester:
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"Much Ado About Nothing" ~Shakespeare
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I have a 14BSST2 and a Torus RM20. I get the "buzzing sound" when the red light is on the amp until it switches to green. I get the buzzing sound no matter if it is plugged in to the RM20 or a wall outlet.
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"Much Ado About Nothing" ~Shakespeare
Most likely. It just bugs me that I don't understand why it would do it in one instance and not in the other.
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My 28B SST² amplifiers starts (Buzz) the same way because of a “soft start” power up (I do not have a Torus). I am wondering if the Torus unit also has a “soft start” power up sequence and this may be causing your amplifiers to Buzz like mine do.
Be well...
Hi Laundrew
I have a 14BSST2 amp plugged in to a Torus RM 20 power conditioner. I hear a buzzing sound from my 14BSST2 amp even if it is plugged in to the back of the Torus power conditioner or a wall socket/outlet 110/120 volt. The buzzing sound starts up when the amps red light comes on and disappears when the green light comes on and then there silence after that.
My Torus RM20 does not have a “soft start” power up sequence and I leave the RM 20 on 24 hrs a day except in a lightning storm.
I would say this noise is normal and just enjoy the music.
Larry
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Dunno guys, starting mine is a Hail Mary thing. Tupac style as the speakers are blasting this during powerup:
Makaveli in this... Killuminati, all through your body
The blow's like a twelve gauge shotty
Uhh, feel me!
Badabam...
Nap. :green:
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:lol: :lol:
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My 2 4Bsst2 's Buzz a little until they stabilize....
James, had told me in the past not to worry
It's Normal !
Robert