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Title: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: hibuckhobby on 20 Jul 2011, 04:32 pm
OK...I know very little about this topic.  I know I like "older" jazz that is melodic as opposed to a kind that is (to me) more free form and almost atonal at times.  So...I thought maybe Coltrane would be a good choice for me because so many speak highly of his work.  Maybe it was just the album I bought, but the the direct to disc Basie and Coltrane didn't float my boat at all.

Can someone direct me toward laid back, melodic jazz?
TIA,
Hibuck.....
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: Wally King on 20 Jul 2011, 05:39 pm
My Favorite Things

http://www.amazon.com/Favorite-Things-Deluxe-John-Coltrane/dp/B00000348A/ref=ntt_mus_ep_dpi_14

Ballads

http://www.amazon.com/Ballads-Reis-Rstr-John-Coltrane/dp/B000W4KSVA/ref=sr_1_9?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1311183185&sr=1-9


Duke Ellington & John Coltrane

http://www.amazon.com/Duke-Ellington-John-Coltrane-Reis/dp/B000W4KSWO/ref=pd_sim_m_4

The Gentle Side ... (a compilation)

http://www.amazon.com/Gentle-Side-John-Coltrane/dp/B000003N66/ref=ntt_mus_ep_dpi_15
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: richidoo on 20 Jul 2011, 05:47 pm
Early Coltrane is more melodic. Monk pushed him out, and great art was the result, but it's not for everyone. When I was young I didn't care for it either. His playing in the last years doesn't do anything for me, but usually the band energy is nice.

Some of my favorites for melodic jazz:
Gerry Mulligan Quartet with Chet Baker
Miles Davis Quintet/Sextet
Kenny Burrell, Wes Mongomery
Dave Brubeck with Paul Desmond
Clifford Brown Max Roach Quintet
Louis Armstrong small bands 1940s-50s
Bill Evans Trio
Sarah Vaughan
Count Basie Big Band (the real stuff, from 1950s w/Sonny Payne, drums)
Kenny Dorham

Also try Pandora's genre stations like Cool Jazz, Bebop, and Jazz Essentials. They will introduce you to many different artists which you can vote for and focus Pandora toward your taste over time, then you will find what you're looking for.
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: DARTH AUDIO on 20 Jul 2011, 06:43 pm
OK...I know very little about this topic.  I know I like "older" jazz that is melodic as opposed to a kind that is (to me) more free form and almost atonal at times.  So...I thought maybe Coltrane would be a good choice for me because so many speak highly of his work.  Maybe it was just the album I bought, but the the direct to disc Basie and Coltrane didn't float my boat at all.

Can someone direct me toward laid back, melodic jazz?
TIA,
Hibuck.....
This was discussed in a different thread. Some good info in this link.
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=92355.0
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: jjc1 on 20 Jul 2011, 06:57 pm
OK...I know very little about this topic.  I know I like "older" jazz that is melodic as opposed to a kind that is (to me) more free form and almost atonal at times.  So...I thought maybe Coltrane would be a good choice for me because so many speak highly of his work.  Maybe it was just the album I bought, but the the direct to disc Basie and Coltrane didn't float my boat at all.

Can someone direct me toward laid back, melodic jazz?
TIA,
Hibuck.....
  Try any Paul Desmond albums and also Dave Brubeck and Desmond. Almost any Bill Evans Trio albums.  Stan Getz, Early Miles Davis (like "Kind Of Blue"), Chet Baker,Red Garland,Barry Harris, Bill Charlap, Dave Hazeltine, Joe Pass. Any of these should give you the kind of jazz you seem to be looking for. I don't consider Coltrane to be melodic except for his early recordings with Miles Davis.
If you want names of albums, I'd be glad to give you all you want.
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: firedog on 20 Jul 2011, 08:30 pm
Add in:

Art Pepper

"Meets the Rhythm Section" 1957

"Straight Life" 1980

Not sure I'd call this "laid back", but definitely melodic and pretty.
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: ZLS on 20 Jul 2011, 08:40 pm
    Anything with Johnny Hodges. 
    He is the very definition of Melodic Jazz. 
    Also Lester Young, especially the small groups. 
    Zoot Sims; look for Zoot Sims and Jimmy Rowles  If I'm Lucky. 
    Ben Webster; along with Johnny Hodges, the best ballad player in Jazz.
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: lonewolfny42 on 21 Jul 2011, 05:51 am
Quote
I know I like "older" jazz that is melodic...

Start here..... :wink:


(http://www.jazzmusicarchives.com/images/covers/dave-brubeck-time-out.jpg)

Samples... (http://www.amazon.com/Time-Out-Dave-Brubeck/dp/B000002AGN)
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: hibuckhobby on 22 Jul 2011, 01:20 pm
Thanks so much for the input.  I do have Brubeck and know the other names...just haven't heard them.  Now I know where to start.  BTW... the Pandora suggestion is a good one...hadn't thought of it.
Hibuck....
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: eclein on 22 Jul 2011, 01:32 pm
Pat Metheny
The Pat Metheny Group

Fusion Jazz of today, I first saw them in 1979, changed my life.....
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: richidoo on 22 Jul 2011, 01:47 pm
More info on Pandora's Genre Stations:

Genre Stations select music by genre name, not by artist or track name. It is generally a wider take on that kind of music than a station based on one individual artist, so it's good for discovering new music without knowing anything about the artists.  If you hear something on a genre station that you like, you can create a new station of that artist, which will specialize towards his particular style.

FAQ:  http://blog.pandora.com/faq/contents/11002.html

Within the web player you can find the genre stations here: http://www.pandora.com/#/genres/

If you listen to Pandora with a Squeezbox or Sonos without a web browser, you must add the genre stations using the Pandora web app, then the stations will appear in your Squeezebox Pandora stations in a day or so. You can't select genre stations directly without the web app, not that I found.

Some genre stations (like Bebop) are "shared," which doesn't allow you to like or not tracks to refine the content to your taste. But most of the others do allow learning from your input.
Rich
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: coldfogey on 22 Jul 2011, 02:07 pm
Scott Hamilton    "Nocturnes & Serenades"
Scott Hamilton    "Blues Bop & Ballads
Eddie Higgins Quartet   "My Funny Valentine"
Eddie Higgins Quartet   "My Foolish Heart"
Harry Edison    "Sweets"   The last cut,  Walken with Sweets is very nice.
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: jjc1 on 23 Jul 2011, 06:31 pm
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=49124)
Now this is Melodic
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: Devil Doc on 23 Jul 2011, 06:37 pm
The Three M's. Miles, Mingus, Monk. Anyone  that's anybody has played with them, so they're a good place to start your journey.

Doc.
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: BrysTony on 23 Jul 2011, 07:49 pm
Here is one that fits what you are looking for:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=48315)

Tony
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: lounge Audio on 31 Jul 2011, 08:34 pm
Try
Modern Jazz Performances Of Songs From My Fair Lady
http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Jazz-Performances-Songs-Fair/dp/B000000YIN/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1312144418&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Jazz-Performances-Songs-Fair/dp/B000000YIN/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1312144418&sr=1-1)

Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: ArthurDent on 31 Jul 2011, 11:41 pm
a couple more suggestions........
              (http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51pXtPCTaDL._SS500_.jpg)

                Samples   (http://www.amazon.com/gp/recsradio/radio/B000005HEX/ref=pd_krex_listen_dp_img?ie=UTF8&refTagSuffix=dp_img)

              The Modern Jazz Quartet, most of Milt Jacksons solo work. Lots of ground to cover, good hunting & happy listening.
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: jimdgoulding on 1 Aug 2011, 12:47 am
Try
Modern Jazz Performances Of Songs From My Fair Lady
http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Jazz-Performances-Songs-Fair/dp/B000000YIN/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1312144418&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Jazz-Performances-Songs-Fair/dp/B000000YIN/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1312144418&sr=1-1)
Boy, that one takes me back to jr high!
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: Jazzman53 on 1 Aug 2011, 01:02 am
You can't go wrong with these selections:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/513p2A-YFnL._SS400_.jpg) 
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51c7dMeHnPL._SS500_.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51%2B2wPg2xNL._SS400_.jpg)


Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: lounge Audio on 1 Aug 2011, 02:20 am
Boy, that one takes me back to jr high!
:lol: :thumb:
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: jimdgoulding on 2 Aug 2011, 01:51 am
Here is one that fits what you are looking for:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=48315)

Tony
Heard this at a chum's house on Sunday.  Got to get me one of these.
Title: Re: Need some input on Jazz artists
Post by: rivieraranch on 22 Aug 2011, 12:36 am
Thelonius Monk and John Coltrane at Carnegie Hall, 1957