BDA-3 DAC

James Tanner · « **Reply #320 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 04:06 pm »

Quote from: stereoclub on 9 Mar 2016, 02:19 pm

Hi James,

Just received first BDA-3 in Romania, we are distributors. We have in our showroom Oppo universal optical players, BDT101CI, BDP-103D etc.
I connected on HDMI and inserted SACD's with output set to Stereo and DSD from source.
On BDA-3 the led goes on green on DSD, but never amber. Oppo says the output is native DSD if I setup properly.
What is the explanation? I expected this product for this DSD native on HDMI feature, does this mean all players send DoP not DSD?

Thank you

Hi

Yes all players i have tried send DOP as far as I know. I have not tried the OPPO with Native - not sure how you do that as I do not see a choice between DSD DOP and DSD Native in the OPPO menu's?
Remember you are playing SACD which is DSD64 only through HDMI. The SOURCE tells the BDA3 what to play so the SOURCE has to be outputting Native DSD for the BDA3 to see it.

The only way I have got Native to play is with JRiver and Foobar 2000 on a computer.

james

Grant Hill · « **Reply #321 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 04:40 pm »

Hi,

if I remember correctly I tried with a Pioneer Blue Ray and I was able to play DSD native via HDMI - I had to select Pure Audio setting and Bitstream audio output on HDMI audio out. I did it one month ago so I could be wrong. I think that also Oppo has similar options, but I din't own any Oppo so far, so I'm just assuming...

Any other users who tried?

James Tanner · « **Reply #322 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 04:42 pm »

Quote from: Grant Hill on 9 Mar 2016, 04:40 pm

Hi,

if I remember correctly I tried with a Pioneer Blue Ray and I was able to play DSD native via HDMI - I had to select Pure Audio setting and Bitstream audio output on HDMI audio out. I did it one month ago so I could be wrong. I think that also Oppo has similar options, but I din't own any Oppo so far, so I'm just assuming...

Any other users who tried?

Hi Grant

Can you tell me what Pioneer player it was.

james

Phil A · « **Reply #323 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 04:45 pm »

Quote from: stereoclub on 9 Mar 2016, 02:19 pm

Hi James,

Just received first BDA-3 in Romania, we are distributors. We have in our showroom Oppo universal optical players, BDT101CI, BDP-103D etc.
I connected on HDMI and inserted SACD's with output set to Stereo and DSD from source.
On BDA-3 the led goes on green on DSD, but never amber. Oppo says the output is native DSD if I setup properly.
What is the explanation? I expected this product for this DSD native on HDMI feature, does this mean all players send DoP not DSD?

Thank you

I was just at someone's house who was sending an Oppo output to a BDA-3. Does this help? http://watershade.net/wmcclain/BDP-103-faq.html#does-the-player-output-sacd-dsd

Grant Hill · « **Reply #324 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 04:45 pm »

Sure,

it's the BDP-LX55

Grant Hill · « **Reply #325 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 04:47 pm »

Quote from: Phil A on 9 Mar 2016, 04:45 pm

I was just at someone's house who was sending an Oppo output to a BDA-3. Does this help? http://watershade.net/wmcclain/BDP-103-faq.html#does-the-player-output-sacd-dsd

Thank you Phil. Yes, I think it does help.

James Tanner · « **Reply #326 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 04:57 pm »

Quote from: Phil A on 9 Mar 2016, 04:45 pm

I was just at someone's house who was sending an Oppo output to a BDA-3. Does this help? http://watershade.net/wmcclain/BDP-103-faq.html#does-the-player-output-sacd-dsd

Hi Phil,

Was he getting Native DSD?

james

davidtgoh · « **Reply #327 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 04:58 pm »

I will be using an Oppo 95 to feed the BDA-3 with DSD from SACD's. However, I also want at times to playback multichannel SACD's. I currently do this via the 95's analogue output into my Bryston SP 1.7 in Bypass Mode. Will I need to switch the Oppo out of DSD HDMI audio output in order for the internal Oppo processor to send an analogue signal to the 5 RCA jacks?

Also, will the same HDMI connection output CD's to be processed by the BDA-3?

Thanks for any input.

Phil A · « **Reply #328 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 05:09 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 9 Mar 2016, 04:57 pm

Hi Phil,

Was he getting Native DSD?

james

James - it was at a Space Coast Audio Society get together. Most of the time JRiver with a Mac Mini in use (and since I brought over a hard drive I was sitting in the back corner playing tracks from that a significant amount of the time) and there was probably a couple of discs played. I saw different lights go on the front of the unit (but the closest I was to it was probably 5-6 feet away) and it was conveyed to me that that those indicated DSD was being passed. We have monthly meetings and I go to most of them and usually just sit back and enjoy the music.

Phil A · « **Reply #329 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 05:12 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 9 Mar 2016, 04:57 pm

Hi Phil,

Was he getting Native DSD?

james

James - look at this - http://www.audioholics.com/blu-ray-and-dvd-player-reviews/oppo-bdp-105/oppo-bdp-105 Apparently one needs to use the HDMI 2 output.

James Tanner · « **Reply #330 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 05:16 pm »

Quote from: Phil A on 9 Mar 2016, 05:12 pm

James - look at this - http://www.audioholics.com/blu-ray-and-dvd-player-reviews/oppo-bdp-105/oppo-bdp-105 Apparently one needs to use the HDMI 2 output.

So maybe not doable on the 103 just the 105?

Will look into it further.

james

Phil A · « **Reply #331 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 05:23 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 9 Mar 2016, 05:16 pm

So maybe not doable on the 103 just the 105?

Will look into it further.

james

James - I don't believe there just be any difference functionally on the players for the HDMI outs.

James Tanner · « **Reply #332 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 05:25 pm »

Quote from: Phil A on 9 Mar 2016, 05:23 pm

James - I don't believe there just be any difference functionally on the players for the HDMI outs.

Ok thanks

james

James Tanner · « **Reply #333 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 05:37 pm »

Hi Folks,

I just want to be clear on this point.

Sometimes people refer to 'native' if the signal is not being converted to PCM, so they make no distinction between DSD DOP and Native DSD.

So the BDA-3 will indicate by a GREEN light the DSD signal is DOP and by an AMBER light if the signal is DSD Native.

We will do more tests here with our OPPO 103.

james

Grant Hill · « **Reply #334 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 06:14 pm »

Hi James,

I agree.

Anyway, the sonic result should be the same either with DOP or DSD Native, am I right?

James Tanner · « **Reply #335 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 06:15 pm »

Quote from: Grant Hill on 9 Mar 2016, 06:14 pm

Hi James,

I agree.

Anyway, the sonic result should be the same either with DOP or DSD Native, am I right?

Yes correct - DOP is a true DSD signal - it is just wrapped in a PCM carrier.

james

scirica · « **Reply #336 on:** 9 Mar 2016, 09:24 pm »

I have my Oppo 105D hooked up to the BDA-3 and playing SACD. Need to check whether or not my light is amber or not (I forget). Will be back in Texas tomorrow to check.

James Tanner · « **Reply #337 on:** 11 Mar 2016, 04:03 pm »

Hi James.

I had some time to put the Bryston BDA-3 through its paces and was very pleased. The midrange was detailed and dynamic with a natural bass presence anyone would enjoy.

The connectivity makes it easy to use many devices with ease and simplicity. I especially like the twin USB inputs that is rarely scene on on high performance DAC's.

USB 1 reserved for BDP-2
USB 2 reserved for all my other digital gear.

Great value for exceptional performance. Bravo Bryston.

Best Regards.
Ron
Altronics Stereo

Bones13 · « **Reply #338 on:** 12 Mar 2016, 04:49 am »

My silver BDA-3 arrived just before I headed to the beach. I hooked it up, and it plays beautiful music out of the box. I have it burning in until I get home.

James Tanner · « **Reply #339 on:** 12 Mar 2016, 11:17 am »

Quote from: Bones13 on 12 Mar 2016, 04:49 am

My silver BDA-3 arrived just before I headed to the beach. I hooked it up, and it plays beautiful music out of the box. I have it burning in until I get home.

OK - looking forward to your assessment.

james