Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus

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Erikz

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hai peeps,

i am erik. and i am so glad to tell you i bought a piece of out of date, hardware. that i manage bring up to date, only to find out that firm dosent exist

it about olive opus 4,

but what i really wanna know, is with ssh connection, and scp. is there a way to get the cd database for tags, updates?, if anyone know anything. i would be a extremly happy danish guy, asking the world for help :o

Phil A

Re: Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus
« Reply #1 on: 18 May 2023, 10:37 pm »
Welcome! The database is owned by gracenote.com. If the files are not voluminous, a free program like MP3 Tag can be used to manually update tags

Erikz

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Re: Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus
« Reply #2 on: 18 May 2023, 10:46 pm »
could you explain a little more in detail.

becuase i would really like it to register my cd´es and not just come up jibberis

Erikz

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Re: Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus
« Reply #3 on: 18 May 2023, 10:49 pm »
it just that if i have to use mp3 tag, i have to get all the music files to my computer and then transfer them back,

but i would be so much better if the olive o4 just in the first place when ripping cd´es have a updated database, or connection to one that isent out of date.

freedb.org, is no more :(

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Re: Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus
« Reply #4 on: 19 May 2023, 12:26 am »
Greetings & Velkommen to AC Erikz  :thumb:  Not familiar with the gear noted, but there are other databases available. MusicBrainz & Discogs Tagger are two that MediaMonkey uses.

Erikz

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Re: Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus
« Reply #5 on: 19 May 2023, 04:59 pm »
Greetings & Velkommen to AC Erikz  :thumb:  Not familiar with the gear noted, but there are other databases available. MusicBrainz & Discogs Tagger are two that MediaMonkey uses.

Ye but the machine is coded to freedb and i dont know how to change this

So looking for the internal database of there is any way to update it or make it work with another db

I dont have much linux experience og sql for that matter

But i know we are plenty out there that would like this

Thx for answer anyhow 😀

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Re: Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus
« Reply #6 on: 19 May 2023, 05:15 pm »
Welcome to AC  :thumb:

Phil A

Re: Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus
« Reply #7 on: 20 May 2023, 02:44 am »
it just that if i have to use mp3 tag, i have to get all the music files to my computer and then transfer them back,

but i would be so much better if the olive o4 just in the first place when ripping cd´es have a updated database, or connection to one that isent out of date.

freedb.org, is no more :(

If your Olive music server is connected to your network, you should be able to click on the folder once you rip it from your PC and use MP3 tag.  I use a NAS device and it is connected to my network and can click on a CD folder and use MP3 Tag from my PC.  You would also want to back up your music files.  You could also buy something like dbPoweramp (https://www.dbpoweramp.com/cd-ripper.htm) to rip them (it is not horribly expensive) and then copy them via the network to the Olive and that way you would have a copy of the ripped CD in two places.  Unless something is obscure, dbPoweramp does a good job of tagging and you can check it before you rip it and edit it if you wish.

Erikz

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Re: Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus
« Reply #8 on: 20 May 2023, 11:45 am »
it not the worst solution, except that the music on the device is not accessible by network, you can upload. but the stored media is not accesible unless you use at scp client

Erikz

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Re: Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus
« Reply #9 on: 20 May 2023, 11:46 am »
If your Olive music server is connected to your network, you should be able to click on the folder once you rip it from your PC and use MP3 tag.  I use a NAS device and it is connected to my network and can click on a CD folder and use MP3 Tag from my PC.  You would also want to back up your music files.  You could also buy something like dbPoweramp (https://www.dbpoweramp.com/cd-ripper.htm) to rip them (it is not horribly expensive) and then copy them via the network to the Olive and that way you would have a copy of the ripped CD in two places.  Unless something is obscure, dbPoweramp does a good job of tagging and you can check it before you rip it and edit it if you wish.

and the tag info is stored not with the music itself but in a databse

Phil A

Re: Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus
« Reply #10 on: 20 May 2023, 08:11 pm »
Doesn't the music server have a network ethernet jack (the review I read said it did and when it was new it had to use the internet to look up the CD data)?  So if you rip via dbPoweramp (or whatever) on your PC (and even if you use the free MP3 Tag program) and have the music on your PC and hook the Olive up to your network (even if it has to be moved), it should allow easy copying.  You can also get ethernet to powerline adapters (about $50 US - they work like this - https://www.tp-link.com/us/powerline/) and put the sending unit near your PC connected to your network and the receiving unit in a plug in back of the Olive, you can create a network connection.

Erikz

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Re: Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus
« Reply #11 on: 20 May 2023, 08:40 pm »
Doesn't the music server have a network ethernet jack (the review I read said it did and when it was new it had to use the internet to look up the CD data)?  So if you rip via dbPoweramp (or whatever) on your PC (and even if you use the free MP3 Tag program) and have the music on your PC and hook the Olive up to your network (even if it has to be moved), it should allow easy copying.  You can also get ethernet to powerline adapters (about $50 US - they work like this - https://www.tp-link.com/us/powerline/) and put the sending unit near your PC connected to your network and the receiving unit in a plug in back of the Olive, you can create a network connection.

This is true, but i Will love to have the auto tagging work, kinda defeat the purpose of the unit if it dosent tag

Phil A

Re: Hello new here, and question about a old saga aka olive opus
« Reply #12 on: 20 May 2023, 11:36 pm »
This is true, but i Will love to have the auto tagging work, kinda defeat the purpose of the unit if it dosent tag

It's older technology (does not mean the unit doesn't sound good).  I used the that same database (that the Olive used) with a program called Audiofile many moons ago.  In fact I bought both Audiofile and Videofile programs and still use Videofile, although Videofile involves manually inputting information about movies (e.g. DVD, tape, director, title, actors, etc.).  With Videofile, I am able to keep track of what I have (one can also do that I believe at IMDB) and get reports by actor, director, genre, etc.  Older digital technology is in many cases going to have disadvantages.  There are products which do what you would like but they are going to come at a much higher cost (e.g. Aurender products).