X-statik amplifier recommendations

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EdwardT

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Re: X-statik amplifier recommendations
« Reply #20 on: 22 Feb 2024, 11:41 pm »
I'm curious if anyone else has experience with the X-statiks and other moderate power tube amps (perhaps 20-35 watts per channel)?  It would be great to hear about other pairings that worked well, and just as interesting to hear about pairings that didn't go so great.

In my temporary listening area (currently a wood shop) I’m using a Kickstarter Sprout and it’s very satisfying. I’m close at the apex of a 5’ triangle and I can see where more power might be handy in a bigger layout. A Sprout 100 might do it for me.

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Re: X-statik amplifier recommendations
« Reply #21 on: 15 Apr 2024, 02:13 pm »
Upon further consideration I took the aux output of the Sprout to a Pine Tree Audio hi-z to lo-z balancing adapter and put two Vidar 1 amps in line as monoblocks. Woof! So, yeah, the extra power brings these speakers to a whole new level.

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« Reply #22 on: 15 Apr 2024, 11:00 pm »
I’ve found the Statiks sound best with more power.  They’ll be fine with 20-80 watts but I feel like they really open up with 100-300 watts. 

In your price range there are a lot of choices.  You could try a Schiit Vidar which is 100 watts per channel.  But for more money the Schiit Tyr amps really bring out the magic of the Statiks.  Tube amps will bring out more warmth but have other issues.

Quick question- if you have experience with the Vidar and the Tyrs, is there an appreciable “step up” in performance? I’m running a couple of Vidars and considering the Tyrs.  Speakers are NX Studios. Thanks

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« Reply #23 on: 16 Apr 2024, 12:13 am »
Quick question- if you have experience with the Vidar and the Tyrs, is there an appreciable “step up” in performance? I’m running a couple of Vidars and considering the Tyrs.  Speakers are NX Studios. Thanks

I have not heard Vidar.  I’ve been running tube amps for years before I went straight to Tyrs.  The Tyrs were a substantial improvement over my highly tweaked 140 watt tube monoblocks.  I’m seriously tempted to sell my tube amps but at the same time I still love the way they look.  They don’t sound terrible but they lack the bass weight, air, dynamics, and resolution of Tyrs.

My main reason for trying Tyr was the choke input power supply.  Well, that and the very positive reviews from people who’s opinions I’ve grown to trust.

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« Reply #24 on: 16 Apr 2024, 02:25 am »
I have not heard Vidar.  I’ve been running tube amps for years before I went straight to Tyrs.  The Tyrs were a substantial improvement over my highly tweaked 140 watt tube monoblocks.  I’m seriously tempted to sell my tube amps but at the same time I still love the way they look.  They don’t sound terrible but they lack the bass weight, air, dynamics, and resolution of Tyrs.

My main reason for trying Tyr was the choke input power supply.  Well, that and the very positive reviews from people who’s opinions I’ve grown to trust.

Are you running a tube preamp with your Tyr's?

DannyBadorine

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Re: X-statik amplifier recommendations
« Reply #25 on: 16 Apr 2024, 02:28 am »
Buckeye amplifiers are excellent Class D stuff. https://www.buckeyeamp.com
The Ncore NC252NP will outperform most other stuff in the price range (about $600) for two channels of 250 watts.  You don't need that much wattage but it won't hurt to have extra power.  These are low distortion and clean amplifiers that give very accurate representation to whatever you put into them.  I have some DIY speakers that are similar to the X-Statik and they sound great with them.  I have also used http://www.tubes4hifi.com VTA ST120 tube amplifiers with them.  These give 60 watts a side.  It's a great tube amp but the distortion gets to be too much when you turn them up and I prefer the Buckeye by a long shot.

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« Reply #26 on: 16 Apr 2024, 03:01 am »
Well, my household has blue lights everywhere with half a dozen PCs, NAS, two media centers (Game Room and Theater Room), Alexa devices, etc. etc.   I am definitely NOT the poster child for efficiency.    :lol:

May no be efficient but sure sounds like a fun place to be!

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« Reply #27 on: 16 Apr 2024, 12:22 pm »
Buckeye amplifiers are excellent Class D stuff. https://www.buckeyeamp.com
The Ncore NC252NP will outperform most other stuff in the price range (about $600) for two channels of 250 watts.  You don't need that much wattage but it won't hurt to have extra power.  These are low distortion and clean amplifiers that give very accurate representation to whatever you put into them.  I have some DIY speakers that are similar to the X-Statik and they sound great with them.  I have also used http://www.tubes4hifi.com VTA ST120 tube amplifiers with them.  These give 60 watts a side.  It's a great tube amp but the distortion gets to be too much when you turn them up and I prefer the Buckeye by a long shot.
Both the latest Hypex and Purifi amps are outstanding for the price.

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« Reply #28 on: 16 Apr 2024, 01:23 pm »
It does not look like Buckeye carries the latest Hypex amp module, the Nilai500.

Hypex says "Nilai (ten times better than NCORE®"

https://www.hypex.nl/technology/nilai/

No-solder kits are available at Madisound:

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/speaker-amps/hypex-nilai500diy-250w-stereo-amplifier-kit/

AudioXpress did a write up on them when they came out last year, and there are plenty of other reviews including Alpha Sound on YouTube.

https://audioxpress.com/article/fresh-from-the-bench-hypex-nilai500diy-500w-mono-power-amplifier-kit-a-new-diy-benchmark

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Re: X-statik amplifier recommendations
« Reply #30 on: 16 Apr 2024, 03:40 pm »
It would be nice if the VTV assembly service could include an upgrade of the throw-away e-bay binding posts in the Hypex kit. It might be worth asking if you go that route.

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« Reply #31 on: 16 Apr 2024, 05:40 pm »
Are you running a tube preamp with your Tyr's?

I used to use tube preamps in my main rig.  I went through several Bottlehead preamps and the last one was the SP13 from VTA.  I enjoyed them all and each one got progressively better sounding but only to a point.  They ultimately hit a wall when it came to resolution.  I’ve heard better resolving preamps but they were usually out of my price range.  And then I took a chance on PS Audio’s GCD preamp/ dac because it was on sale and it didn’t use a typical potentiometer for volume control.  My jaw literally dropped in the first 10 seconds of listening to it!  I’m not saying it’s the best out there.  But the GCD as a preamp is a freaking steal if you can get one for $1200 or less.  It beats everything else I’ve heard with a pot in the signal path.  (Granted, most of what I’ve heard is on the lower cost end of the spectrum.)

Now in my living room system which is mostly used for tv, movies, and video games I recently swapped out my Marantz receiver for a Schiit Saga+ preamp, Modi Multibit 2 dac, and Gjallerhorn amp.  I’ve been continuously surprised by how great this little combo sounds!  The Saga uses a relay / resistor stepped attenuator circuit which also sounds better than a pot.  I’m curious to try Schiit’s Kara preamp sometime in the future and see how it competes with the GCD.

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« Reply #32 on: 17 Apr 2024, 03:07 pm »
It does not look like Buckeye carries the latest Hypex amp module, the Nilai500.

Hypex says "Nilai (ten times better than NCORE®"

https://www.hypex.nl/technology/nilai/

No-solder kits are available at Madisound:

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/speaker-amps/hypex-nilai500diy-250w-stereo-amplifier-kit/

AudioXpress did a write up on them when they came out last year, and there are plenty of other reviews including Alpha Sound on YouTube.

https://audioxpress.com/article/fresh-from-the-bench-hypex-nilai500diy-500w-mono-power-amplifier-kit-a-new-diy-benchmark

I haven't used the Nilai stuff yet.  I still use the NCore.  The NCore stuff is so good, especially for the price, I think the benefits of anything better are very small.  But Hypex does seem to keep raising the bar.  For me, in regards to the original post, I would buy the NCore amplifiers any day of the week if I'm on any kind of budget.

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Re: X-statik amplifier recommendations
« Reply #33 on: 17 Apr 2024, 03:16 pm »
. I’m curious to try Schiit’s Kara preamp sometime in the future and see how it competes with the GCD.

I would also be 100% VERY interested in such a comparison!  :popcorn:

DannyBadorine

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« Reply #34 on: 17 Apr 2024, 09:42 pm »
I would also be 100% VERY interested in such a comparison!  :popcorn:

Here are some excellent measurements of the Schist Kara.  It does well.
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/forum/index.php?threads/schiit-kara-preamp-and-headphone-amp-review.48048/