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Title: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 2 Aug 2011, 11:57 am
Trying to decide on a good set of PC speakers.
As a gamer these look very good for a small investment.I would hope they make a 5.1 soon,I like to know when someone is sneaking up behind me.
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/peripherals/speakers-and-headphones/speakers/corsair-memory-sp2500-921279/review
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: Phil A on 2 Aug 2011, 12:05 pm
Not a gamer, but on my PCs, main and a couple of back-ups, I've rotated old receivers and regular speakers into the systems.  I have 4.1 on the main computer.  If you're looking for stereo only, you could even buy a new Sherwood 105WPC receiver for $80 (I have a few year old model on a back-up PC I got new for that price). Plenty of used stuff too.
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 2 Aug 2011, 12:55 pm
Thanks Phil.......I just may look into that option.

With my love for sound as well all do here....The Gaming industry really has a lot of innovation with how they approach sound in gaming.
Between the voice acting and music to the bullets flying by your head to spatial cues it really does help create a very involving atmosphere.
The gaming industry at times has even surpassed the movie industry.

Some footage for yall'.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0t7Naey8jk
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 2 Aug 2011, 01:08 pm
Some footage of what may be the greatest...(I believe so)concept for a PC game since the beginning.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/313559/deus-ex-human-revolution-pc-gamer-review-awards-94/
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: neekomax on 2 Aug 2011, 01:14 pm
You should look into these. I have them at my computer, and they are stunningly good for a cheapie satellite system. Powerful, great tone, and rocking bass. For real. 

http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-ProMedia-Certified-Computer-Speaker/dp/B000062VUO
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: neekomax on 2 Aug 2011, 01:16 pm
Or, if you want 4.1 : http://www.amazon.com/Klipsch-ProMedia-4-1-Certified-5-Speaker/dp/B000062VUP/ref=sr_1_6?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1312290939&sr=1-6
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: Phil A on 2 Aug 2011, 02:52 pm
On my older computer upstairs, I have the Sherwood receiver just for stereo.  On my main back-up PC in the basement, I wired for in ceiling surrounds and have an old Sony 444ES that was in the bedroom system at one point and is probably more than 10 years old.  I'm running 4.0 on that.  I run 4.1 on the main computer.  I have a Pioneer 1120 that did not work out in my secondary basement HT as the room is huge and I decided to do 8.1 too.  The Pioneer does internet radio (not that I really need it now with the computer right there) and I listen to it most often for that.  I have an old RCA 50WPC powered sub (which sits behind a printer stand) and old Radio Shack white metal speakers as surrounds.  I also have a cheapo Sony Blu-Ray player and a 25.5 inch monitor/TV and it looks and sounds really good on movies (pic of the office system below) and the Sony also passes DSD to the Pioneer receiver and sounds good on SACD.  I had powered PC speakers that were decent with a matching powered sub but I gave it away as it did not have the sound of what I have now.  For a bit on the main computer, I had the stereo receiver and then the Sony 444ES when I upgraded the bedroom system receiver.  When you're used to Bryston and other great audit stuff it is hard to listen to some stuff.


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=44103)
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 2 Aug 2011, 02:57 pm
When you're used to Bryston and other great audit stuff it is hard to listen to some stuff.
Couldn't agree more Phil.
I have come to realize Bryston tells the truth,It's up to us if we can handle it or not.Some need their
sound trumped up a little and that's fine.I wouldn't want us all the same or else no one would stand out.


This is from an independent developer.Fantastic and it's not even finished yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEqoylBGHyA


Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: Phil A on 2 Aug 2011, 04:49 pm
Maybe what we need is Bryston to make a B60C (C for computer) or a B30C.  Perhaps based on a digital amp (to keep the cost and weight down a bit) with a DAC built in (USB in too) and a subwoofer out.  The current office system I have really does sound good (Mobile Fidelity OML-1 speakers which I traded for on Audio Circle) and the Pioneer 1120 which has a digital amp.  The basement system where I had the Pioneer orginally is a huge room (around 650 square feet or a hair more) and I had an older Marantz receiver before that and the Pioneer just didn't sound good (I also have a DAC in the basement system - had an old Micromega and now have the Emotiva - don't listen to music much down there but when you go from a BDA-1 in the main system I needed something decent) with the old B&W P6s I have as mains.  I was really happy to hear it sound good in the office system.
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: gaderson on 2 Aug 2011, 05:04 pm
Well, since my computer setup also somewhat doubles for a DAW/Bedroom Studio set-up I'm a little more hardcore.
I started with a some powered AR speakers from my cousin, but eventually went to a pair of Dyaudioacoustics (http://www.dynaudioacoustics.com/) BM15s (http://www.dynaudioacoustics.com/Default.asp?Id=394), their Midfield monitors with 10" woofers. They're 4Ω speakers so not until I got a 4B-ST-Pro did they finally sound good (I was using two channels of my 9B-ST-THX).
But...I then got a pair of DB1Ss off Audiogon and have now gone all PMC (DAW and Home Theater). Transmission line was a revelation, now I understand 'port chuffing' even when using the foam port plugs on the BM15s.
Later I switched to a 2B-LP since the 4B-ST-Pro was way overkill for the DB1Ss. And I think I tried out some Blueroom Minipods (http://www.scandyna-speakers.com/products/minipod.aspx) along the way. With the DB1Ss I can wall mount them which helps clear desk space.
I recently got a pair of TB1S-AIIs (http://www.pmc-speakers.com/product.php?mode=view&pid=18) that are amazing. But, since I use a BP-25 as a preamp its output is now too hot (5V) and I have to put the gains on the TB1S-AIIs to the minimum and I barely get the volume pot, on the BP-25 above 8 o'clock.

My new quest is for a DAC/pre like the Benchmark DAC-1 PRE (http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BEDAC1PRE) or the Grace m903 (http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=GEM903). The DACmini (http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CEDACMINI) is intriguing, but, it only has single-ended outputs.

But, back to the thread, for simple you might try Dynaudio's (http://www.dynaudio.com/relaunch1/multimedia_sound/index.php) Desktop systems. I think I saw a review of the small powered speakers BM15 (TAS or Stereophile), based off the BM5 pro monitors. I would think that studio monitors would be a way to go as there usually 'voiced' for close-in listening--especially if the monitors have digital/USB inputs. Maybe just a pair of classic LS3/5s? For work I have a pair of the aforementioned Minipods and us a NuForce Icon USB-DAC integrated to power them to reasonable volumes (thinking of upgrading to the Icon2) and now that iTunes lets you play music off any connected device I don't even need analog from my iPhone dock to the Icon and can just go digital to the Icon's DAC.
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 3 Aug 2011, 09:45 pm
The holy grail for PLM.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo4iOV5s6vI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au5OJiSUePU&NR=1
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 3 Aug 2011, 11:15 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MGY3rFNmXA&feature=related
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 5 Aug 2011, 11:32 am
Not sure who sings this......Great footage though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcq2gQcIcKs&feature=feedu
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 8 Aug 2011, 06:41 pm
Better than the movies.......Because your in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pNOxynC1Dc&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPu7-LtLKmU&NR=1
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: sweetspot on 9 Aug 2011, 12:02 am
Better than the movies.......Because your in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pNOxynC1Dc&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPu7-LtLKmU&NR=1
This stuff is way too violent for me!!! I guess this is why the U.S. military recruits gamers to sit in a room somewhere in the U.S. & operate drones with bombs over Iraq & not feel any remorse because they think it's just another video game!!!! :nono:
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 9 Aug 2011, 03:24 am
This stuff is way too violent for me!!! I guess this is why the U.S. military recruits gamers to sit in a room somewhere in the U.S. & operate drones with bombs over Iraq & not feel any remorse because they think it's just another video game!!!! :nono:

Yes But I off set it with carpenters music. :green: And a banana split. :P :wink:
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 10 Aug 2011, 03:02 pm
Inside peek video.13 days and counting.

http://www.jeuxactu.com/video-deus-ex-3-75101.htm
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 10 Aug 2011, 03:14 pm
Sound and Music (Official Trailer)
This is one job I could and would be very pleased to do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-nSQCevTXA
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 11 Aug 2011, 10:37 am
The beauty of the environments.It takes a great deal artistic ideas to make  a city so interesting to explore.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFMW_76YTg
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 11 Aug 2011, 12:41 pm
Last light......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKsB4hECFMQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGFMJz5Moj0&NR=1
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 15 Aug 2011, 12:22 pm
Now where can I acquire a jacked like this.


http://cdn.steampowered.com/Manuals/28050/DXHR_PC_manual_uk.pdf?t=1313018897
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: RLL1 on 15 Aug 2011, 03:05 pm
Now where can I acquire a jacked like this.


http://cdn.steampowered.com/Manuals/28050/DXHR_PC_manual_uk.pdf?t=1313018897

Rumor has it that a jacket like that is part of the deal when purchasing a pair of Aerial speakers  :thumb:
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 15 Aug 2011, 04:46 pm
Rumor has it that a jacket like that is part of the deal when purchasing a pair of Aerial speakers  :thumb:


Lol.....It would be quite the fashion statement for sure.
Right along side my Military clothing.
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 15 Aug 2011, 05:11 pm
TV Spot for DH.HR ...Hot off the press.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHz8oSpcyuA
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: IronLion on 15 Aug 2011, 05:15 pm
If you're serious about the functionality of the speakers aiding your gaming (ie location of other players, etc), I would most highly recommend a good pair of headphones.  I sometimes play with IEM's at night and the ability to locate other players by their footsteps often leaves other players thinking I'm cheating- you can figure out exactly where they're coming from quite easily.  If, on the other hand, you want the cinematic presentation of a 5.1 setup, thats something entirely different obviously.   
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 15 Aug 2011, 05:21 pm
If you're serious about the functionality of the speakers aiding your gaming (ie location of other players, etc), I would most highly recommend a good pair of headphones.  I sometimes play with IEM's at night and the ability to locate other players by their footsteps often leaves other players thinking I'm cheating- you can figure out exactly where they're coming from quite easily.  If, on the other hand, you want the cinematic presentation of a 5.1 setup, thats something entirely different obviously.   

I'm pretty serious about anything I do......All or nothing for this oldguy.lol
Would love to know what headphones your using.
If you have a link that would be great.

Thanks.
The OldMan. :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 15 Aug 2011, 05:36 pm
It's has now gone Gold.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/deus-ex-is-a-top-10-game-of-the-year/083124
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: amblin on 15 Aug 2011, 05:55 pm
I'm using Creative gigaworks T3, cheap and cheerful 2.1 speakers.  They are quite good if you just want your PC to make some noise.  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 15 Aug 2011, 06:05 pm
I'm using Creative gigaworks T3, cheap and cheerful 2.1 speakers.  They are quite good if you just want your PC to make some noise.  :icon_lol:

What are you using for headphones?For that deadly advantage. :wink:
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: gorb on 15 Aug 2011, 06:23 pm
For my computer I use a pair of energy rc-10s, an orb audio super eight, and an old yamaha rx-v795 receiver.  Audio technica ath-ad700 headphones for games where I need to know exactly where the bad guy footsteps are coming from.
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: sweetspot on 15 Aug 2011, 09:59 pm
Now where can I acquire a jacked like this.


http://cdn.steampowered.com/Manuals/28050/DXHR_PC_manual_uk.pdf?t=1313018897
There is a place locally that makes that type of clothing. I forget the name- it's abbey something!!!
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: amblin on 16 Aug 2011, 06:14 pm
What are you using for headphones?For that deadly advantage. :wink:

nope , no headphones. I was told the T3 had dedicated circuits for headphone amplification, but oh well..they were too lazy to tell even the recommended impedance....

Btw, i used to own a pair of sony infra-red wireless some years back, but they sounded like i was sitting in a big tank. --- Not the ones with big guns, those lucky chaps had better sounding earphones.  :duh:
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 18 Aug 2011, 11:59 am
Some great voice acting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyALlWozgZA
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 18 Aug 2011, 06:39 pm
Talking DX live footage.

http://gamingtrend.com/2011/08/18/deus-ex-human-revolution-exclusive-behind-the-scenes/
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: niels on 18 Aug 2011, 07:35 pm
For computer audio I would still recommend some outboard amplification I think. My AudioEngine A2 active speakers play ok on my computer but connecting them to the B100 preout terminals really makes them sing. Amazing what they can sound like then.
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 22 Aug 2011, 01:14 am
Now this looks like an enjoyable way to spend an evening.

http://rage.com/
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 23 Aug 2011, 11:08 am
It's finally here and with the best trailer yet.I may be 1Oldguy but I'm young at heart. 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK4k_Ieh8Wg&feature=player_embedded#!
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 23 Aug 2011, 12:25 pm
One last read......From the press.

http://techland.time.com/2011/08/22/excellence-from-the-machine-deus-ex-human-revolution-review/2/
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 25 Aug 2011, 10:25 pm
The long and winding road.

http://ca.askmen.com/video/entertainment/1197-deus-ex-human-revolution-art-director-interview-video.html
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 26 Aug 2011, 06:44 pm
Human Augmentation ...It's real and it's happening now.

http://www.strategyinformer.com/pc/deusex3/movie/39499.html
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 1 Sep 2011, 05:32 pm
Interview time.
http://www.pixologic.com/interview/deusex3/1/
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 3 Oct 2011, 05:20 pm
BF3 Bata

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9ndz13zUms
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 4 Oct 2011, 06:38 pm
BF3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwJK1KedEPs&feature=related
Title: Re: Computer Speakers
Post by: 1oldguy on 5 Oct 2011, 02:20 pm
Power of the PC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iVeKIAEfj4&feature=related