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Title: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 4 May 2016, 01:16 pm
Hi folks

I have been working on a project called BryFi - and one of our beta testers has asked this question:

I was also wondering if you could do me a favour? Can you get some ideas from your Audio Circle community on what the best Android DLNA/Wifi player app is?
I tried a few last nite but none seem to be that "all in one" app. All the "free versions" seem to lacking in one area or another.
I don't mind paying for one, but want to make sure its the "right one" before I do.

Tks
Adam


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142395)

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Wim J on 4 May 2016, 01:25 pm
Roon.

if the Bryfi device has a raspberry on board this should be possible.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 4 May 2016, 02:55 pm
Nice James,

Like we asked before, an all in one system  :thumb:  sneaky way of introducing ;)
Kinda like the color setting, to match with my ESL's


 (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142397)

About the app:  sorry but i feel your beta tester is right, no app has it all. VLC and Goodplayer are strong contenders though, at least on iOS
Hope your Bryfi will see the light soon!

Cheers,
Marius




Hi folks

I have been working on a project called BryFi - and one of our beta testers has asked this question:

I was also wondering if you could do me a favour? Can you get some ideas from your Audio Circle community on what the best Android DLNA/Wifi player app is?
I tried a few last nite but none seem to be that "all in one" app. All the "free versions" seem to lacking in one area or another.
I don't mind paying for one, but want to make sure its the "right one" before I do.

Tks
Adam


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142395)

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 4 May 2016, 03:06 pm
Hi Marius,

Yes I have two working samples and so far really liking what I hear and the interface seems to work quite well.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 4 May 2016, 03:07 pm
Here is the complete info so far.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142398)


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142399)

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 4 May 2016, 03:29 pm
Cool James! Seems a great addition to the Bryston family.


Please tell me it uses the wired lan also, and reads/plays files stored on the NAS? Think i didn't read about that in your brochure.


Cheers,
Marius


Here is the complete info so far.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142398)


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142399)
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: gdayton on 4 May 2016, 04:03 pm
Bubble UPnP is by far and wide the best DLNA UPnP android app.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: 1ZIP on 4 May 2016, 05:57 pm
What are the dimensions?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 4 May 2016, 06:09 pm
Height (inches) - 10.25

Width (inches) -19.5

Top Depth  - (inches) 6.75

Bottom Depth  - (inches) - 9

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 4 May 2016, 06:19 pm
Cool James! Seems a great addition to the Bryston family.


Please tell me it uses the wired lan also, and reads/plays files stored on the NAS? Think i didn't read about that in your brochure.


Cheers,
Marius

Yes anything connected on the network it can see and play.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 4 May 2016, 07:34 pm
Yes anything connected on the network it can see and play.

james

 :thumb: :thumb:
Great.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: stereoal on 4 May 2016, 08:50 pm
Can you use BryFi to listen to Spotify, Tidal or Apple music?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 4 May 2016, 09:01 pm
Can you use BryFi to listen to Spotify, Tidal or Apple music?

Tidal yes not sure on Spotify and Apple - will check.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 5 May 2016, 08:58 am
Tidal yes not sure on Spotify and Apple - will check.

james

Hi

From engineering:

For streaming music, everything streams over AirPlay now. For Android we will need to make individual deals with each streaming service.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Anonamemouse on 5 May 2016, 09:30 am
Definitely avoid the mistakes the guys from NAD/Bluesound are making... Pretty good sound, but no clue on what their users want.
I also wonder, why? Stick to what Bryston does best, build superb amps.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 5 May 2016, 09:54 am
Definitely avoid the mistakes the guys from NAD/Bluesound are making... Pretty good sound, but no clue on what their users want.
I also wonder, why? Stick to what Bryston does best, build superb amps.

Hi Anonamemouse

Sadly the marketplace for the traditional Bryston customer - or for that matter high end audio period - is getting smaller and smaller every year and you have to develop more products to help draw in younger customers to enter the high end market and hopefully be able to sell your current customers more Bryston products.

The other advantage, like in the case of the Bryston speakers is "Predictability" - I know how the system will perform in the customers home if he uses our sources, amplification and speakers.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Nuz1 on 5 May 2016, 03:02 pm
James,

I'm looking forward to learning more about BryFi.   But I wanted to follow-up on a discussion I had with Gary at Axpona.   I asked if a BDP-2 and a Pi player could be synched up as a part of a whole house system so the music plays uniformly and timed in synch at all locations similar to having multiple Sonos players.  He indicated that both devices could access the same NAS library, but there would be timing issues and the music would not be in exact synch from room to room.   

Would you confirm that?   Perhaps I interpreted Gary response incorrectly.  But if not, I'm hopeful that with what appears to be start of a Bryston whole house system player system, the timing issue for multi-room playback will be a priority to be included.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 5 May 2016, 04:32 pm
James,

I'm looking forward to learning more about BryFi.   But I wanted to follow-up on a discussion I had with Gary at Axpona.   I asked if a BDP-2 and a Pi player could be synched up as a part of a whole house system so the music plays uniformly and timed in synch at all locations similar to having multiple Sonos players.  He indicated that both devices could access the same NAS library, but there would be timing issues and the music would not be in exact synch from room to room.   

Would you confirm that?   Perhaps I interpreted Gary response incorrectly.  But if not, I'm hopeful that with what appears to be start of a Bryston whole house system player system, the timing issue for multi-room playback will be a priority to be included.

Hi

This is definitely a Chris question - will let him answer.

james
 
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Yitshak on 5 May 2016, 06:05 pm

75w a channel Bryston capable amp is way more then enough
To make this system sing with zest!

No doubts this setup will hit above it size suggested and price,
Actually as any other Bryston gear.

I'm glad you turn such entry level capable devices lately to welcom new comers.
It's so very importance to exposé new users to the Bryston sound per pound fact.


Cheers and luck  :thumb:

Itshak
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 5 May 2016, 06:22 pm
HI James,


Entering this market might also be about form factor, especially when people put this Bryfi in very visible locations, like i will.
I can't help but feel you designed this device using existing parts, judging on the sizes you mention. Especially the rather large bottom depth, seems to indicate the amp has been 'glued to the back' of the existing mini-speakers.


Did you consider building dedicated speakers and amp for the Bryfi, like Naim did when they engineered their Muso's https://www.naimaudio.com/mu-so (https://www.naimaudio.com/mu-so) ? That way combining specs with wider audience form.




Cheers,
Marius
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: 1ZIP on 5 May 2016, 06:33 pm
Needs a little bling… like the Bryston logo in Bryston silver, dead center bottom.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: servingko on 5 May 2016, 07:10 pm
I would assume it's a modified Axiom Air moving from a two way driver system to a three way driver system.  There is a lengthy tread regarding connectivity on the Axiom site that may or may or may not apply but is a good read for folks like me that don't dabble much in networking.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Nuz1 on 5 May 2016, 07:14 pm
I'm curious what you mean by your statements about Bluesound.    What mistakes are they making and/or what aren't they providing to users? 

Definitely avoid the mistakes the guys from NAD/Bluesound are making... Pretty good sound, but no clue on what their users want.
I also wonder, why? Stick to what Bryston does best, build superb amps.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 5 May 2016, 07:15 pm
HI James,


Entering this market might also be about form factor, especially when people put this Bryfi in very visible locations, like i will.
I can't help but feel you designed this device using existing parts, judging on the sizes you mention. Especially the rather large bottom depth, seems to indicate the amp has been 'glued to the back' of the existing mini-speakers.


Did you consider building dedicated speakers and amp for the Bryfi, like Naim did when they engineered their Muso's https://www.naimaudio.com/mu-so (https://www.naimaudio.com/mu-so) ? That way combining specs with wider audience form.




Cheers,
Marius

Hi Marius

No this is totally engineered product and has been 2 years in the making.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 5 May 2016, 07:17 pm
I would assume it's a modified Axiom Air moving from a two way driver system to a three way driver system.  There is a lengthy tread regarding connectivity on the Axiom site that may or may or may not apply but is a good read for folks like me that don't dabble much in networking.

Yes it is our version.

Axioms is a 2-way system but the software feature set will be the same for Bryston.

Ours will be a set of Mini A speakers (so better power handling, true 3-way design – cast baskets etc.) 150 watt class D amplifier and a Raspberry Pi computer all in one portable box. It weighs about 16 pounds without batteries and can use 1 or 2 batteries (8 or 16 hours.)

I am currently working on the Bryston interface app and we should be ready to go in about 3 weeks.

James
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 5 May 2016, 07:19 pm
Needs a little bling… like the Bryston logo in Bryston silver, dead center bottom.

Hi IZIP

Yes the little pop down drawer in the center will have BRYSTON embossed on the front.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: unincognito on 5 May 2016, 07:22 pm
James,

I'm looking forward to learning more about BryFi.   But I wanted to follow-up on a discussion I had with Gary at Axpona.   I asked if a BDP-2 and a Pi player could be synched up as a part of a whole house system so the music plays uniformly and timed in synch at all locations similar to having multiple Sonos players.  He indicated that both devices could access the same NAS library, but there would be timing issues and the music would not be in exact synch from room to room.   

Would you confirm that?   Perhaps I interpreted Gary response incorrectly.  But if not, I'm hopeful that with what appears to be start of a Bryston whole house system player system, the timing issue for multi-room playback will be a priority to be included.

Currently there are no plans for integration that I am aware of, you understand correctly
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 5 May 2016, 08:15 pm
I am currently working on the Bryston interface app and we should be ready to go in about 3 weeks.

James

Did you really say app James, as in a dedicated iOS app? Suppose that wouldnt also work with the other Bryston lineup? As in BDP?

#fingerscrossed...

Marius
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 5 May 2016, 08:16 pm
Hi Marius

No this is totally engineered product and has been 2 years in the making.

james

Cool James, and hope you didn't take offense. Looking forward to it!
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: gdayton on 5 May 2016, 08:36 pm
James,

I'm looking forward to learning more about BryFi.   But I wanted to follow-up on a discussion I had with Gary at Axpona.   I asked if a BDP-2 and a Pi player could be synched up as a part of a whole house system so the music plays uniformly and timed in synch at all locations similar to having multiple Sonos players.  He indicated that both devices could access the same NAS library, but there would be timing issues and the music would not be in exact synch from room to room.   

Would you confirm that?   Perhaps I interpreted Gary response incorrectly.  But if not, I'm hopeful that with what appears to be start of a Bryston whole house system player system, the timing issue for multi-room playback will be a priority to be included.

Multiple players being able to share a library and play in sync are different technological requirements. The first is currently capable. Customers will often use one BDP or a dedicated NAS to host a whole-house music library that BDPs, smartphones, computers, etc can all access independently. The advantage here is that all devices in the house have access to the same music. If Dad buys an album on HDTracks, Little Johnny can listen to it on his own BDP without having to make a separate copy.

Playing multiple zones in sync is different in that it requires a single player to stream to multiple outputs without perceptible timing differences between zones so that you can walk from the dining room to the kitchen to the patio and have each zone be playing the same portion of a single song at once.

Multiple BDPs in a house can currently share a music collection, but they each index it separately meaning that if you add a song to the NAS, each BDP must be updated separately. But, there is not currently a provision for a single controller to play to multiple BDPs in different zones at once.

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Nuz1 on 5 May 2016, 11:40 pm
Thanks Gary, that's the way I took your comments at Axpona.  But I thought maybe things had changed with this new product on the horizon.  I'm not a tech guy, so I'm sure I don't appreciate the work it takes to make synchronization happen.   But I was hopeful that if my old Squeezebox Touch, Sonos, Bluesound and DTS Playfi products are all able to synch player timing that Bryston was headed that direction too.   

I know from previous conversations that I can run Bryston players via Logitech media server and (I assume) synch players that way.  But with so much time/effort invested in Manic Moose, I know which program Bryston prefers.   

However, my personal opinion is that if Bryston really wants to make inroads into being "the" whole house music system, I think synchronized playback is something you should consider.   
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Anonamemouse on 6 May 2016, 09:52 am
I'm curious what you mean by your statements about Bluesound.    What mistakes are they making and/or what aren't they providing to users?
https://helpdesk.bluesound.com/discussions/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2791
They completely ignored the massive wave of comments about the whole "smartplay" issue. Save a few all users on the board disliked it and noone from Bluesound ever made a comment on it. Even worse, they continue to defend it and claim smartplay is the best invention since sliced bread and they get millions of positive reactions to it. Which nobody can find anywhere... I actually know one of their representatives here in the Netherlands, even he told me this was a massive mistake on their side.
For me, if this smartplay is not at least made optional and not a default which can not be changed in the next big update which is june 1st (it will include MQA decoders, but without music available... Don't really see the point), it will be a dealbreaker and I'll probably move on to the Lumin D1.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Anonamemouse on 6 May 2016, 09:57 am
Hi Marius

No this is totally engineered product and has been 2 years in the making.

james
Wow!
I really should move back to Canada... Unfotunately Mafico is Pushing the Bryston pricetag through the roof...
Happen to need anyone at Bryston?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 6 May 2016, 10:43 am
Wow!
I really should move back to Canada... Unfotunately Mafico is Pushing the Bryston pricetag through the roof...
Happen to need anyone at Bryston?

Nope, im first in line ;)

Bryston might better need anyone over here though.. always willing to help Mafico get their website in shape (its been like this for some time now) http://www.mafico-av.nl (http://www.mafico-av.nl) and respond to customer questions.
Pushing Bryston should be a bit more on the agenda than pushing Bryston prices ;-(

Always wondered how, after buying a full Bryston setup, including the top of the line 28b's, Brystons official dealer network never contacted me about new additions to the Bryston lineup. Or even care to ask if all was well, maybe share some experience or invite for local shows and new product launches. (get them from other brands all the time, Marantz, Sennheiser, and even without owning a Naim, Linn or B&W). Lack of interest for your customer is what kills relationship and loyalty.

That's why we're so very lucky to have this AC board actively supported by James, Chris, Mike and Gary :thumb:  Also, Bryston developing great products helps of course ;)

Still, there's enough opportunity for some extra local effort.

Cheers,
Marius
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: gdayton on 6 May 2016, 01:40 pm
However, my personal opinion is that if Bryston really wants to make inroads into being "the" whole house music system, I think synchronized playback is something you should consider.

I don't disagree at all. How cool would it be to have your BDP-2 in the listening room, BDP-Pi in the living room, and a couple BryFi units around the house all jamming when guests come over?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 7 May 2016, 10:07 am
From engineering:


Hi Guys,

I was reading the thread at Audio Circle. 

The new BryFi has sync and does do multi-room.  At the bottom of the playback page all the BryFi units on your network will be in boxes showing the names you gave them.  By clicking on any one of the boxes you can control that unit.  If you go into the “Edit Groups” page you can group rooms together (and take them apart again) and then that group will be controlled together.  BryFi Does everything Sonos does and way more; plus it actually sounds amazing. 

Thanks
Ian
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Anonamemouse on 7 May 2016, 10:48 am
From engineering:


Hi Guys,

I was reading the thread at Audio Circle. 

 BryFi Does everything Sonos does and way more; plus it actually sounds amazing. 

Thanks
Ian

Sounds interesting!
How does it compare to the BDP and the PI sonically?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 7 May 2016, 12:55 pm
Sounds interesting!
How does it compare to the BDP and the PI sonically?

Hi

It uses the same Raspberry Pi computer as the Bryston Pi.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: 1ZIP on 7 May 2016, 05:16 pm
Can it be stand mounted?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 7 May 2016, 05:22 pm
Can it be stand mounted?

Hi

I have not tried that but I do not see any reason why not as long as the stand is the minimum depth and width to support the BryFi BW-1 properly.

james

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: alexone on 7 May 2016, 08:54 pm

another new direction :D

Bryston is ---E-X-P-A-N-D-I-N-G---

very exciting what products will follow :thumb:

al.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Silverbullet on 8 May 2016, 12:34 am
Great that you can sync the new unit(s), the question is can you sync with an existing BDP1or2 and will the software be able to control a BDP2. The best thing about SONOS is the control app, it's the best and has been for years. The BDP software is the pits, full of holes and generally buggy. I have both SONOS (hardly used as lack of hires support) and a BDP2 which I find frustrating.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: bacmsl on 8 May 2016, 03:46 pm
Will Bryston make a powered 120 VAC wired version? Because I read in one of the posts that one or two batteries last 8 - 12 hours.

Barry

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: 1ZIP on 8 May 2016, 09:30 pm
Batteries..???  Portable..??  This thing is becoming less attractive.  Beginning to sound like the WIFI equivalent of the old "Boom" box.  This can't be right??
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 8 May 2016, 09:58 pm
Hi

Yes it comes with an external wallwart power supply so it can be used either way.

James
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 11 May 2016, 03:54 pm
Some shots of my unit at home.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142808)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142809)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142810)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142811)


james


Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 11 May 2016, 04:01 pm
Cool James,


Looks much better than the other day! Cant wait to test it really, exactly what I've been wanting.
Please don't tell me the LAN port is on the front panel.... ?


Cheers,
Marius


Some shots of my unit at home.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142808)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142809)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142810)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142811)


james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 11 May 2016, 04:13 pm
Yes it is behind the door on the front panel but I assume most will use it wirelessly. You can also run the Ethernet cable undernieth the unit and connected it so it's hidden if you want.

James
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Armaegis on 11 May 2016, 04:25 pm
Is that a rear port or a handle? (both?)
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 11 May 2016, 04:45 pm
Is that a rear port or a handle? (both?)

Hi

Both :thumb:

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 11 May 2016, 06:03 pm
Yes it is behind the door on the front panel but I assume most will use it wirelessly. You can also run the Ethernet cable undernieth the unit and connected it so it's hidden if you want.

James


underneath? is there a second Lan port? or do you mean underneath to the front, and with the lid open?
it should really be on the back James, room enough to judge by the image.


Cheers,
Marius
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 11 May 2016, 06:32 pm

underneath? is there a second Lan port? or do you mean underneath to the front, and with the lid open?
it should really be on the back James, room enough to judge by the image.


Cheers,
Marius

Hi

It can not be on the back as it is part of the Raspberry Pi circuit board

james

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 11 May 2016, 06:58 pm
Hi

It can not be on the back as it is part of the Raspberry Pi circuit board

james

Surely there's ways to add an extra port?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Grit on 11 May 2016, 09:05 pm
Yeah, I don't see the value of the ethernet port in the front either.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 11 May 2016, 09:25 pm
believe it is an industry first ;)
taken into account the BryFi has been in development for 2 years (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=142807.msg1524298#msg1524298), i wonder what the engineers have been thinking  :scratch:
Yeah, I don't see the value of the ethernet port in the front either.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: unincognito on 11 May 2016, 10:43 pm
Yeah, I don't see the value of the ethernet port in the front either.

There really wasn't much of a choice it was that or both the ethernet and usb ports end up on the back, whats more of an inconvenience ethernet on the front or usb ports on the back?


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142820)
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Grit on 11 May 2016, 11:17 pm
I'd rather have USB on the front.

Didn't realize it was all on-board ports.

Well, if it has wifi it won't make much difference anyway. :)
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 11 May 2016, 11:25 pm
I'd rather have USB on the front.

Didn't realize it was all on-board ports.

Well, if it has wifi it won't make much difference anyway. :)

Hi

Thats my point - I have had mine now for a week and listen to everything wirelessly.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 12 May 2016, 05:44 am
HI Chris, James,
Honestly, i am a bit baffled by your philosophy. 
There's plenty of extras to be clicked on the Raspberry board. If  an extra ethernet port wasn't an option, maybe you could have made an extra set of usb ports, just like on the BDP, and flip the board. Bryston has a complete opposite position on the BDP1/2, developing from 2 to 4 usb ports on the back, next to the Lan.


There really shouldn't be an either this or that with these kind of premium products.


How come you let the design specifics of a small board of about 35 $, set the design principles of a new premium Bryston product. Which probably won't be priced south of 1000$.
Beach- and party-users might not need the Lan, moving around, but office and living room users might very well do. I for one belong to the latter, always preferring a wired connection, especially playing the hires files i would you this product for over the home network.


Well, i guess this isn't a prototype anymore... all in all it seems a wonderful product, wishing you the best of succes with it.
Cheers,
Marius




There really wasn't much of a choice it was that or both the ethernet and usb ports end up on the back, whats more of an inconvenience ethernet on the front or usb ports on the back?


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142820)
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: unincognito on 12 May 2016, 12:28 pm
HI Chris, James,
Honestly, i am a bit baffled by your philosophy. 
There's plenty of extras to be clicked on the Raspberry board. If  an extra ethernet port wasn't an option, maybe you could have made an extra set of usb ports, just like on the BDP, and flip the board. Bryston has a complete opposite position on the BDP1/2, developing from 2 to 4 usb ports on the back, next to the Lan.


There really shouldn't be an either this or that with these kind of premium products.


How come you let the design specifics of a small board of about 35 $, set the design principles of a new premium Bryston product. Which probably won't be priced south of 1000$.
Beach- and party-users might not need the Lan, moving around, but office and living room users might very well do. I for one belong to the latter, always preferring a wired connection, especially playing the hires files i would you this product for over the home network.


Well, i guess this isn't a prototype anymore... all in all it seems a wonderful product, wishing you the best of succes with it.
Cheers,
Marius

Sorry but the Pi board doesn't work that way, it's Broadcom chip has one USB bus that is attached to a four port USB hub/100mb Ethernet adapter ic and the io is already mounted to the board.  There isn't an spi or i2c bus fast enough on its GPIO for anything else.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 12 May 2016, 12:50 pm
Sorry but the Pi board doesn't work that way, it's Broadcom chip has one USB bus that is attached to a four port USB hub/100mb Ethernet adapter ic and the io is already mounted to the board.  There isn't an spi or i2c bus fast enough on its GPIO for anything else.


i understand that Chris, though there's a lot going on on the extra Nic front in raspberry world.


Guess what i meant was that it's really a rather significant compromise for a premium product like the Bryfi. Building that on a board that has got its merits, but lacks in several important aspects (power/speed/connectivity/memory) seems a bit contra Bryston philosophy to me.
Make it right or don't make it, no compromise there. Of course the Raspberry was build for other purposes, mostly educational and affordable.


I hope it works for Bryston, and, as with the BDP1 and 2, the customer upheaval as you yourself named it i think, won't need you to build an updated Bryfi 2 too soon, because of specs too tight. Cutting it close, as you so well put it today in another post.


Cheers,
Marius



Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: mkaiser on 12 May 2016, 08:36 pm
Here is the complete info so far.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142398)


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=142399)

Hi James,
I do not want to derail the topic of the BryFi unit but, any ideas of total amp power ratings for the A series of speakers.  :thumb:

Mark
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: srb on 12 May 2016, 10:05 pm
I do not want to derail the topic of the BryFi unit but, .....

I've never understood why people often quote an entire post to add a comment, but to quote a post to add an off-topic question ..... ?  ;)   (Scroll, scroll, scroll .....)
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 13 May 2016, 10:21 am
Hi James,
I do not want to derail the topic of the BryFi unit but, any ideas of total amp power ratings for the A series of speakers.  :thumb:

Mark

Hi Mark

It will depend on the model of course but all use very high powered capable drivers so I would say anywhere between 50 and 300 watts on most models.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: mkaiser on 15 May 2016, 01:26 pm
I've never understood why people often quote an entire post to add a comment, but to quote a post to add an off-topic question ..... ?  ;)   (Scroll, scroll, scroll .....)

Wow? really. Yes, please keep scrolling.  :scratch:
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: mkaiser on 15 May 2016, 01:31 pm
Hi Mark

It will depend on the model of course but all use very high powered capable drivers so I would say anywhere between 50 and 300 watts on most models.

james

That sounds great James as I have been in the market for a quality pair of powered loudspeakers for some time, just could not pull the trigger due to the quality of the amplifiers inside most. I will be very interested and give my dealer the heads-up to get some in when they are ready to be manufactured down the road. :thumb:

Mark
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: guyguay on 15 May 2016, 01:43 pm
Hi James

Any Price range ?

Martin
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 15 May 2016, 02:17 pm
Hi James

Any Price range ?

Martin

Looks like $1600 list in USA. The Mini A speakers sell for $1250 a pair on there own so it offers people an all in one high quality portable wireless package at a very reasonable price.

james

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: sfraser on 16 May 2016, 03:16 pm
James, have you considered a "ruggedized" model, perhaps with a handle? Might be a market for that, thinking about making it portable for cottages, patio's, etc.

Scott
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 16 May 2016, 03:25 pm
James, have you considered a "ruggedized" model, perhaps with a handle? Might be a market for that, thinking about making it portable for cottages, patio's, etc.

Scott

Hi Scott

The port on the back is also a handle.


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=143097)


james


Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 29 May 2016, 11:04 pm
http://www.canadahifi.com/bryston-bryfi-bw-1-wireless-portable-multi-room-music-system/
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: amblin on 22 Jul 2016, 11:28 am
HI James,


Entering this market might also be about form factor, especially when people put this Bryfi in very visible locations, like i will.
I can't help but feel you designed this device using existing parts, judging on the sizes you mention. Especially the rather large bottom depth, seems to indicate the amp has been 'glued to the back' of the existing mini-speakers.


Did you consider building dedicated speakers and amp for the Bryfi, like Naim did when they engineered their Muso's https://www.naimaudio.com/mu-so (https://www.naimaudio.com/mu-so) ? That way combining specs with wider audience form.




Cheers,
Marius

I'm fine with 'glued to the back' principle, as long as the quality standard is high. Just like those active PMCs piggybacking bryston amps on the back. Modular is good , that way you don't have to worry about size and can forget about uninteresting D amps .
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 22 Jul 2016, 12:37 pm
Hi

No the amps are not glued to the back.  The BryFi is a complete redesign with a separate stereo amp a Raspberry Pi computer and a pair of Mini A speakers.

James
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: amblin on 22 Jul 2016, 07:05 pm
Hi

No the amps are not glued to the back.  The BryFi is a complete redesign with a separate stereo amp a Raspberry Pi computer and a pair of Mini A speakers.

James

Since the unit is quite large and wifi hot spot capable, and there's a funny 'computer' inside,  how about adding a simple, dedicated UI / OS and HDD bay so it can be used as a music library / server for existing audio systems? 

BryFi can stay in the bedroom but it can also become an active component in the main system simply by adding a 'BryFi companion' --- a dedicated wifi receiver for Bryston DAC / digital players via USB connection. So digital lovers can ditch their complicated iMac, NAS or whatever and use the cool, simple BryFi + iPad combo instead.

It'll be even more appealing if it's compatible with other brands' DACs, or anything with a USB slot, such as a TV, computer , playstation .... And truly become 'great music anywhere, everywhere.'

A wireless , good sounding system in a small package is nice, but to become great it must do more, and more versatile . And don't forget the lamp.  :thumb: lol
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Armaegis on 22 Jul 2016, 07:52 pm
And don't forget the lamp.  :thumb: lol

Well I suppose you *could* actually use a lamp to draw current to create the class A bias somehow...
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: patrickm on 9 Oct 2016, 03:22 pm
I was talking with a friend up in Haliburton this weekend about this: http://www.axiomaudio.com/axiomair-n3#t-0 .  I remember seeing something from Bryston on a similar product.  Are you guys using the same casing with different internals?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 9 Oct 2016, 03:59 pm
I was talking with a friend up in Haliburton this weekend about this: http://www.axiomaudio.com/axiomair-n3#t-0 .  I remember seeing something from Bryston on a similar product.  Are you guys using the same casing with different internals?

Yes we are working on one with the Mini A speakers built in.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: pmcd on 7 Nov 2016, 10:17 pm
any updates on the unit ?   my sister in law wants one for xmass!!!!
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 7 Nov 2016, 11:17 pm
any updates on the unit ?   my sister in law wants one for xmass!!!!

Hi

Sorry for the delay - waiting for Apple to OK the Airplay.

james

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: pmcd on 10 Nov 2016, 06:08 pm
Hi

Sorry for the delay - waiting for Apple to OK the Airplay.

james


Thanks James so I guess its safe to say it wont be available for xmass ?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 10 Nov 2016, 06:58 pm
Apple = The Grinch
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 10 Nov 2016, 07:26 pm
Thanks James so I guess its safe to say it wont be available for xmass ?

HI

Fingers crossed as Apple said another 2 weeks. 

We have a bunch on order so it would be nice to get them to people for their Christmas. :thumb:

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: pmcd on 10 Nov 2016, 11:37 pm
Thank you sir     
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Mike-48 on 28 Nov 2016, 07:12 pm
Bubble UPnP is by far and wide the best DLNA UPnP android app.

Probably too late to make a difference, but +1 on this.  Before I adopted it, I tried half a dozen or more, and it stood far above the others in flexibility and reliability. Recent trials of others didn't change my opinion. An important part of that is an author who listens to users and tries to accommodate their needs and desires for the software.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 16 Jan 2017, 05:36 pm
Hi Folks,

Just an update – FINALLY – we have received AirPlay approval from Apple on our new Bryston BryFi product – please see attached PDF.

We will be able to start shipping product next week.  Thanks to those that ordered months ago and have persevered through this.

james

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 16 Jan 2017, 05:57 pm
Hi Folks,

Just an update – FINALLY – we have received AirPlay approval from Apple on our new Bryston BryFi product – please see attached PDF.

We will be able to start shipping product next week.  Thanks to those that ordered months ago and have persevered through this.

james


Fascinating. Like having a BDP-Pi, DAC, and speakers all in one box?
MSRP in CAD$?
DAC chip/implementation?

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 16 Jan 2017, 07:22 pm
Fascinating. Like having a BDP-Pi, DAC, and speakers all in one box?
MSRP in CAD$?
DAC chip/implementation?

$1495 List

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 16 Jan 2017, 10:09 pm
Geez, I must conclude then...

- the BDP-Pi is over-priced
- the BryFi seems like a killer deal

 :scratch:
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 16 Feb 2017, 09:06 am
HI James,


Will this Apple Airplay approval be valid for the BDP also? Since it is essentially the same software I would hope this to be the case?


Cheers,
Marius


Hi Folks,

Just an update – FINALLY – we have received AirPlay approval from Apple on our new Bryston BryFi product – please see attached PDF.

We will be able to start shipping product next week.  Thanks to those that ordered months ago and have persevered through this.

james

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 16 Feb 2017, 11:14 am
HI James,


Will this Apple Airplay approval be valid for the BDP also? Since it is essentially the same software I would hope this to be the case?


Cheers,
Marius

Hi Marius

No it is totally different software in the BryFi.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 16 Feb 2017, 11:36 am
Hi Marius

No it is totally different software in the BryFi.

james

Hi James,

Sorry for my misunderstanding. I thought the BryFi and BryPi, both built on the same Raspberry, would have had the same software as the Bdp, since the BDP and BryPi share software.

Let me ask it this way then: will you accommodate Apple AirPlay on the Bdps?

Cheers
Marius
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 16 Feb 2017, 12:09 pm
Hi James,

Sorry for my misunderstanding. I thought the BryFi and BryPi, both built on the same Raspberry, would have had the same software as the Bdp, since the BDP and BryPi share software.

Let me ask it this way then: will you accommodate Apple AirPlay on the Bdps?

Cheers
Marius

Hi

The BryFi was developed by a different software engineer so it was a completely different project. I do not think we will send the Pi in for approval.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 16 Feb 2017, 01:32 pm
James

Maybe I missed this somewhere, but can the BryFi's music selections be controlled from the front panel? With pocket drives attached to the rear. Setting up powered ethernet access (like for my BDP-1) in every room for iDevice control is a PITA.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 16 Feb 2017, 01:44 pm
James

Maybe I missed this somewhere, but can the BryFi's music selections be controlled from the front panel? With pocket drives attached to the rear. Setting up powered ethernet access (like for my BDP-1) in every room for iDevice control is a PITA.

Hi

The BryFi is controlled with a phone or computer, Ipad etc.  The front has a drop down draw which allows for thumbdrives, ethernet  inout etc.to be inserted and a volume control.  But the main feature of the BryFi is that it is controlled through remote devices.  You can also have multiple units in different rooms each controlled separately.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 17 Feb 2017, 09:48 pm
Hi

The BryFi is controlled with a phone or computer, Ipad etc.  The front has a drop down draw which allows for thumbdrives, ethernet  inout etc.to be inserted and a volume control.  But the main feature of the BryFi is that it is controlled through remote devices.  You can also have multiple units in different rooms each controlled separately.

james

Hi James,

So...if I understand you right...BryFi will latch onto my home wireless router? No need to run an ethernet cord to my powerline (like I do with BDP-1)? The router should assign BryFi its own IP address wirelessly, right?

Thanks.
Pete

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 18 Feb 2017, 01:10 am
Hi James,

So...if I understand you right...BryFi will latch onto my home wireless router? No need to run an ethernet cord to my powerline (like I do with BDP-1)? The router should assign BryFi its own IP address wirelessly, right?

Thanks.
Pete

Correct!

james

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: 1ZIP on 3 Mar 2017, 09:00 pm
I went to the Bryston web site for more info on the BRYFI unit, but couldn't find it anywhere.  Are you going to add it soon?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 3 Mar 2017, 09:42 pm
I went to the Bryston web site for more info on the BRYFI unit, but couldn't find it anywhere.  Are you going to add it soon?

Hi

Should be soon - we are starting to ship units this month.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 29 Mar 2017, 10:24 am
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT:  BryFi App in Google Store

March 2017

Hi Folks,

For those of you with a Bryston BryFi unit a BryFi app is now live in the Google Play Store.

Type in or copy to your browser:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=volumio.browser.BryFi2

You can also just type BryFi in the search function of Google Playstore on your Android device and it will download the application.

Please see attached PDF for more info on the Bryston BryFi.

James Tanner
Bryston
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 29 Mar 2017, 11:54 am
I have a PDF of the BryFi manual  - jamestanner@bryston.com

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: 1ZIP on 10 Apr 2017, 09:00 pm
So, what's the status of this heavenly device??
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 10 Apr 2017, 10:20 pm
So, what's the status of this heavenly device??

Hi

Started shipping to the dealers last week.  So far so good - lots of backorders to get caught up on.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: TJ-Sully on 25 Apr 2017, 03:00 pm
James,

I'm looking forward to learning more about BryFi.   But I wanted to follow-up on a discussion I had with Gary at Axpona.   I asked if a BDP-2 and a Pi player could be synched up as a part of a whole house system so the music plays uniformly and timed in synch at all locations similar to having multiple Sonos players.  He indicated that both devices could access the same NAS library, but there would be timing issues and the music would not be in exact synch from room to room.   

Would you confirm that?   Perhaps I interpreted Gary response incorrectly.  But if not, I'm hopeful that with what appears to be start of a Bryston whole house system player system, the timing issue for multi-room playback will be a priority to be included.



Nuz1,

to get at your question from another angle...i'd like to share how i've approached the topic, in part:

in system 1, i have BDP-1 and BDA 2 - and use Roon and external hard drive.
I connected a custom length Blue Jean digital coax cable from the coax out on the BDA2.
Then run the coax cable into system 2.

I have the flexibility of using using the bdp-1 from system 1 in system 2.
also, and i can listen to music with both systems running simultaneously - without evident delay.

makes for one very lively place with both systems running together! perfect for making brunch on sunday mornings!  :D

hope this helps.

cheers, TJ
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 28 Apr 2017, 05:29 pm
Hi Folks

Link to our new Bryston BryFI product.

http://www.bryston.com/products/speakers/BryFi.html


james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: catmonv on 29 Apr 2017, 01:48 pm
How much does this unit cost?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 29 Apr 2017, 02:13 pm
How much does this unit cost?

Hi

$1495 List.

Its a bargain when you consider it's a pair of Mini A's (which sell for $1400 on there own) and the BryFi has a full set of Mini A's, A 150 watt amplifier and a Raspberry Pi computer built in.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 9 May 2017, 05:29 pm
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=161983)

Hi Bryston Folks

We received the BryFi‘s ...  fantastic units!

The white one looks great and we received very good feedback already from dealer, who visited us in our office.

Gilberto
MGM Audio AG
Switzerland

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 16 Jun 2017, 02:57 pm
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston BryFi Wireless Audio System

June, 2017

Hi James,

Tried the new Bryston BryFi wireless audio system .

It sounded excellent, even on Radio!

One of the best sounds we have heard from an "all in one box type" device.

Well done


Regards,
James Tan,
AV Design, Malaysia

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 20 Jun 2017, 06:57 pm
Hi Folks,

BryFi now on the website.

http://bryston.com/products/speakers/BryFi.html

James
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 28 Jul 2017, 02:34 pm

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=166077)


Hi Folks,

Have a terrific review coming out on the BryFi from Soundstage Magazine on August 1st.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: 1ZIP on 29 Jul 2017, 06:02 am
James;

Are they still back ordered?  If so what is the wait time?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 29 Jul 2017, 06:33 am
James;

Are they still back ordered?  If so what is the wait time?

Hi

Depending on top cover selection about 2 weeks.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: srb on 29 Jul 2017, 07:01 am
Its a bargain when you consider it's a pair of Mini A's (which sell for $1400 on there own)

If the Mini A is capable of 100dB SPL, how is the BW-1 capable of 115dB?  I know the 100dB spec is for one speaker, and a pair might likely measure between +3dB to +6dB more, depending on the distance between them.

And perhaps the BW-1 might measure closer to the +6dB increase because of the close proximity between channels, but still, 115dB seems like an enormous increase.  This doesn't even take into account the limitations of the 75W/ch amplification and what power might actually be required for such a high SPL output.

Steve
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 29 Jul 2017, 10:32 am
If the Mini A is capable of 100dB SPL, how is the BW-1 capable of 115dB?  I know the 100dB spec is for one speaker, and a pair might likely measure between +3dB to +6dB more, depending on the distance between them.

And perhaps the BW-1 might measure closer to the +6dB increase because of the close proximity between channels, but still, 115dB seems like an enormous increase.  This doesn't even take into account the limitations of the 75W/ch amplification and what power might actually be required for such a high SPL output.

Steve

Hi Steve

I will ask the engineering types.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 1 Aug 2017, 10:51 am
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT:  Bryston BW-1 Review – Soundstage Magazine

August 2017

Hi Folks,

Please see the link below – a review of the Bryston BryFi BW-1 Wi-Fi portable speaker system from Soundstage Magazine.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=166270)


Favourite Quote:

“Bryston’s BryFi BW-1 all-in-one speaker really does approach the sound quality of a system of separates.  I felt there was nothing compromised about its sound.”


This was the primary goal of the Bryston BryFi system … state of the art audio in a portable wireless all in one package.



Full Review:

http://www.soundstagesimplifi.com/index.php/equipment-reviews/18
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Pundamilia on 1 Aug 2017, 02:25 pm
It would be very interesting if one of the reviewers out there did a side-by-side comparison of the BryFi and the AxiomAir.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 1 Aug 2017, 03:28 pm
It would be very interesting if one of the reviewers out there did a side-by-side comparison of the BryFi and the AxiomAir.

Hi

The Axiom Air uses a much smaller 2 way speaker, different crossover and different software.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Pundamilia on 1 Aug 2017, 04:00 pm
Thanks, James.

In doing a cursory comparison, I did notice the difference between the 2-way speakers used in the AxiomAir and the 3-way in the BryFi, but the other differences were not evident.

Thank you for the clarification.

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: 1ZIP on 1 Aug 2017, 05:43 pm
James;

A brushed aluminum Bryston Logo is an extra??
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 1 Aug 2017, 06:23 pm
James;

A brushed aluminum Bryston Logo is an extra??

Hi

Yes its a $25.00 extra - its a Black aluminium top with and embossed Bryston Logo

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: David C on 1 Aug 2017, 06:38 pm
Hi James,
I am very interested in the BryFi. Will you have it at RMAF this year? Hope so :thumb:
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: srb on 1 Aug 2017, 06:39 pm
Is the SoundStage review correct that the BryFi has a 20-year warranty, even though it has internal digital components?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 1 Aug 2017, 11:13 pm
Hi James,
I am very interested in the BryFi. Will you have it at RMAF this year? Hope so :thumb:

Hi David

Should have

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 1 Aug 2017, 11:14 pm
Is the SoundStage review correct that the BryFi has a 20-year warranty, even though it has internal digital components?

Hi

No its 5 years - have asked them to change that.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: 1ZIP on 2 Aug 2017, 02:46 am
James;

One last question.  Is is possible to get the brushed AL logo with the natural cherry finish?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 2 Aug 2017, 10:24 am
James;

One last question.  Is is possible to get the brushed AL logo with the natural cherry finish?

No sorry the top has to be either aluminum etched or wood but not both.

james

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 22 Aug 2017, 11:37 am
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston BRYFI Review – NOVO Magazine


August 2017

Hi Folks,

Our new Bryston BryFi Wireless Portable Audio system is starting to be taken notice of.

LINK:   http://bryston.com/products/speakers/BryFi.html


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=167347)

SNEAK PEAK QUOTE:

“Bryston has a potential hit on its hands with their BryFi BW-1. It appeals to both the seasoned audiophile and the lifestyle conscious seeking out a wealth of technical sophistication backed with solid musical talent.”

There will be a full review available in the September issue of NOVO Magazine.
 (formally Canada Hi-Fi).

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 22 Sep 2017, 09:33 am
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT:  Bryston BRYFI BW-1 – Dealer Feedback

September 2017


Hi James,

How are you, sorry I have been very quiet lately.

I love your Bryston ‘BRYFI’ wireless speaker system!


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=168796)


I have some demo’s scheduled very soon on the BryFi with my clients as they are all coming back from summer vacations. My wife Sue loves our own BRYFI, I can't even attempt to sell my demo as she has the best ears for audio given both my daughters are in college!!

I have attached a picture of the BRYFI in my family room.

It actually fills the empty nest!

Thanks for a great product!

Ram

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 6 Dec 2017, 05:30 pm
MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston BryFi Mini A Wireless Speaker System

December, 2017

Hi Folks,

Over the past few months we have been working on an expanded Bryston line of BryFi Wireless products.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=172389)

The first system would consist of a pair of Bryston Mini A speakers with the amplifiers built in and a small  wireless transmitter (see picture) that contains the BryFi computer, WiFi receiver, an optical input, a line level input and a High Res DAC.

The entire system would be managed from the BryFi interface currently available on our BryFi  BW-1 portable system and controlled with your IPAD etc.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=172390)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=172391)
Wireless Transmitter
   (4Wx1.5Dx6T”)

The optical input would typically be used for your TV’s optical output so selecting TV on the BryFi  interface would send the audio from your TV wirelessly to the Mini A speaker system. The Analog input could be for any other piece of equipment you may want to plug in, like the pre-amp box from your turntable.

We are thinking going forward  that all our Bryston Model A floor-standing speakers would have good potential for this type of wireless product.


Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: TJ-Sully on 6 Dec 2017, 10:14 pm
Impressive innovation Bryston! Congrats!!  :thumb:

Hi James, are specifications available to share regarding internal amplification for the Mini A's?

cheers, TJ
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 7 Dec 2017, 02:30 am
Impressive innovation Bryston! Congrats!!  :thumb:

Hi James, are specifications available to share regarding internal amplification for the Mini A's?

cheers, TJ

It is a 60 watt Class D design

james

Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: gordon on 8 Dec 2017, 10:01 pm
Curious if anyone has paired a sub with the Bryfi or if Bryston has plans for a matching sub?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 9 Dec 2017, 01:04 am
Curious if anyone has paired a sub with the Bryfi or if Bryston has plans for a matching sub?

Hi

Yes there is a Sub out connection on the BW-1 and we are building wireless Subs now as well to use with the future BryFi products like the BryFi Min A .

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 11 Dec 2017, 05:53 pm
https://www.wifihifi.ca/LatestNewsHeadlines/Hands-OnReview:BrystonBryFiBW-1Wireless/NetworkedSpeaker.html
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: gordon on 12 Dec 2017, 01:31 am
Hi

Yes there is a Sub out connection on the BW-1 and we are building wireless Subs now as well to use with the future BryFi products like the BryFi Min A .

james

Thanks James, also could the sub-out drive headphones?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 12 Dec 2017, 01:35 am
Thanks James, also could the sub-out drive headphones?

Hi

Its a fullrange signal so yes that should work.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 12 Dec 2017, 03:03 am
Hi

Its a fullrange signal so yes that should work.

james

Hi folks,

I am checking on this as the signal may be Mono.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: gordon on 13 Dec 2017, 02:10 am
Hi folks,

I am checking on this as the signal may be Mono.

james
Thanks for checking, would be a real plus (for me at least  :D)
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 13 Dec 2017, 12:46 pm
Thanks for checking, would be a real plus (for me at least  :D)

Hi gordon,

Well I am sorry but the answer I get is NO it can not be used with headphones.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: gordon on 14 Dec 2017, 02:09 am
Hi gordon,

Well I am sorry but the answer I get is NO it can not be used with headphones.

james
Thank you for the follow up, great service as always and as they say, no is the second best answer!  :lol:
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: TJ-Sully on 23 Dec 2017, 02:16 pm
https://www.wifihifi.ca/LatestNewsHeadlines/Hands-OnReview:BrystonBryFiBW-1Wireless/NetworkedSpeaker.html

great review....i loved this quote:
"On "Umteyo," the final cut in jazz trumpeter Ambrose Akinmusire's fabulous new album A Rift in Decorum: Live From the Village Vanguard (Blue Note, 24/88.2 download), the Bry-Fi absolutely kicked ass."   :thumb:
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: TJ-Sully on 13 Jan 2018, 01:45 am
hi james, of all the Bryston products over the last 5 years or so, which product model has been the most economically successful for Bryston?  :thumb:
TJ
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 13 Jan 2018, 10:04 am
hi james, of all the Bryston products over the last 5 years or so, which product model has been the most economically successful for Bryston?  :thumb:
TJ

In terms of profit margin or numbers sold?

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: TJ-Sully on 13 Jan 2018, 09:16 pm
both, if you're able to say....but i'm thinking overall success. however you wish to measure it. :)

T
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 14 Jan 2018, 11:18 am
Hi

Ok ... we put the same markup on all our products based on making a margin large enough to sustain the business.  I know some will price their products based on what they think the market will bear.

So from a sales stand point the 2 most successful in the last few years has been the DAC's and the Speakers - although the new Cubed amplifiers are really doing well so far.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 14 Jan 2018, 01:08 pm
Hi

So from a sales stand point the 2 most successful in the last few years has been the DAC's and the Speakers - although the new Cubed amplifiers are really doing well so far.

james

The CD player (BCD) is fading?

cheers
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 14 Jan 2018, 06:03 pm
The CD player (BCD) is fading?

cheers

Yes CD is going away.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 14 Jan 2018, 06:37 pm
Yes CD is going away.

james

That's great, thanks.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: sweetspot on 14 Jan 2018, 07:48 pm
Yes CD is going away.

james
James, are you halting production on the BCD-3?
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 14 Jan 2018, 08:25 pm
James, are you halting production on the BCD-3?

No - it still sells well so unless we can not get any more drives we will continue. There is just no way to know when the major companies will stop production of critical components.

I just got the word that the BCD-3 will be reviewed in an upcoming issue of Absolute Sound so based on what I have been told that should spur some sales.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: TJ-Sully on 15 Jan 2018, 12:52 am
Hi

Ok ... we put the same markup on all our products based on making a margin large enough to sustain the business.  I know some will price their products based on what they think the market will bear.

So from a sales stand point the 2 most successful in the last few years has been the DAC's and the Speakers - although the new Cubed amplifiers are really doing well so far.

james


Thanks James!

here's another question....

Wondering if you and the Bryston team would consider posting new videos - describing your products, how they're made, the engineering and design behind them - maybe some stories or interviews with executive team, engineers, and folks in professional studios.

I try to advise my audio friends to invest in Bryston gear - for three main reasons - beautiful resolving sound, high quality design and manufacturing process with 20 year warranty , and made in CANADA. It would be cool to have access to videos that i could point my friends to!

I realize Audio Advisor posts vids - but, to me, the content comes across as well scripted and kind of...well.... uninteresting.

what'd'ya think?

Cheers, TJ


Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 15 Jan 2018, 12:02 pm
TJ,

Most good videos are scripted, otherwise they come across as shoddy and unprofessional, imo. I think the Audio Advisor videos for BCD, BDP, B100, are quite tastefully done. Of course, one could add animations and "special effects" to enhance the presentation, but the essence of how these units operate (buttons, jacks, etc) is communicated adequately, imo. The thing is, there needs to be a balance between objective revelation of features and grandstanding salesmanship American-style. I think Bryston avoids the latter.

cheers
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: TJ-Sully on 15 Jan 2018, 09:48 pm
CM

I'm talking about more comprehensive discussion. Some interaction. Expressions. Ideas. How things came to be in the Bryston gear. What went into the thinking. The designs. The challenges. Some compromises made, perhaps - in say output stage vs. cost. Ya know? real stuff.

I'm not suggesting Hollywood-style vids as you refer to - simply more interesting - for me anyway.

 
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 15 Jan 2018, 09:54 pm
Ya we could do one where I try to convince the bean counters that building products that are becoming obsolete is a good idea  :lol: - that should have lots of drama !!!

And another one where I try to convince everyone that building Active speakers is a really good idea !!!

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: OTM on 15 Jan 2018, 10:01 pm
You could float the idea of  a 45 rpm custom turntable for all of the many coloured 1950 disks
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 15 Jan 2018, 11:33 pm
CM

I'm talking about more comprehensive discussion. Some interaction. Expressions. Ideas. How things came to be in the Bryston gear. What went into the thinking. The designs. The challenges. Some compromises made, perhaps - in say output stage vs. cost. Ya know? real stuff.

I'm not suggesting Hollywood-style vids as you refer to - simply more interesting - for me anyway.

http://www.canadahifi.com/meet-the-manufacturer-bryston-factory-tour/
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: TJ-Sully on 16 Jan 2018, 12:41 am
well james, there is always the entertainment factor...
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Calypte on 16 Jan 2018, 05:29 am
No - it still sells well so unless we can not get any more drives we will continue. There is just no way to know when the major companies will stop production of critical components.

I just got the word that the BCD-3 will be reviewed in an upcoming issue of Absolute Sound so based on what I have been told that should spur some sales.

james
Speaking of sales -- the BDP-pi that I just bought from AA is number 150.  This for a product that was introduced -- what? -- three years ago.  Doesn't look to me like you've sold very many.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 16 Jan 2018, 12:41 pm
Speaking of sales -- the BDP-pi that I just bought from AA is number 150.  This for a product that was introduced -- what? -- three years ago.  Doesn't look to me like you've sold very many.

Hi

Hardly any as most of our customers go for the full BDP versions.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Calypte on 16 Jan 2018, 07:08 pm
Interesting.  I was about to buy a product of another brand when I noticed the BDP-pi.  It looked like it was perfect for what I wanted to do, plus it had the magic word "BRYSTON" engraved on the faceplate.  I've looked at the BDP-3, and I see little that it offers beyond the BDP-pi, certainly nothing to justify the stratospheric additional cost.  BTW, I was wrong: my player is no. 151 (not "150") :)
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 16 Jan 2018, 08:05 pm
Interesting.  I was about to buy a product of another brand when I noticed the BDP-pi.  It looked like it was perfect for what I wanted to do, plus it had the magic word "BRYSTON" engraved on the faceplate.  I've looked at the BDP-3, and I see little that it offers beyond the BDP-pi, certainly nothing to justify the stratospheric additional cost.  BTW, I was wrong: my player is no. 151 (not "150") :)

Hi

Well I'm glad you chose us - much appreciated.

The Pi was an attempt to offer excellent performance at a very reasonable price so we are very happy with the result but the BDP-3 has many more options and features which many of our customers seem to want these days.  So hopefully we have provide both our customers with the feature set and performance they require.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 16 Jan 2018, 09:00 pm
The BDP-3 has more "juice" to handle multiple source drives and loads larger libraries faster.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Calypte on 16 Jan 2018, 09:24 pm
"The BDP-3 has more "juice" to handle multiple source drives and loads larger libraries faster."

The BDP-pi is my first digital player.  Maybe things will develop to the point where I wish I had the BDP-3.  Not yet.   
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 17 Jan 2018, 12:02 am
The BDP-pi is my first digital player.  Maybe things will develop to the point where I wish I had the BDP-3.  Not yet.

Enjoy it! It may be all you need.  :thumb:
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 29 Jan 2018, 09:15 pm
http://novo.press/bryston-bryfi-bw-1-wireless-amplified-loudspeaker-review/
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 26 Mar 2018, 07:41 pm
Hi Folks,

Pleased be advised that Brystons companion app for the BryFi wireless speaker line is now available on the App Store.

Just go to the app store and type in bryfi in the search area - then download to your Apple device.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bryfi/id1338899352?ls=1&mt=8

james



(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=177961)
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: CanadianMaestro on 27 Mar 2018, 02:36 pm
Why is there an age rating on BryFi app?

From iTunes:
"Age Rating: You must be at least 17 years old to download this app".
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 27 Mar 2018, 03:33 pm
Why is there an age rating on BryFi app?

From iTunes:
"Age Rating: You must be at least 17 years old to download this app".

No idea ????

james
Title: BryFi
Post by: dolstein on 22 May 2018, 04:15 pm
I hope Bryston comes out with a carrying bag or carrying case for the BryFi. 
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: Marius on 4 Aug 2018, 01:22 pm
HI James,


since you mailed us about a new app Glider being available, I searched for Bryston in the App store yesterday, and found the Bryfi app... Cool.
Please let me ask if this indeed is only for the Bryfi, or also capable of finding the BDP's? I tried obviously, but my BDp1 wasn't found.


That,
Marius


Hi Folks,

Pleased be advised that Brystons companion app for the BryFi wireless speaker line is now available on the App Store.

Just go to the app store and type in bryfi in the search area - then download to your Apple device.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bryfi/id1338899352?ls=1&mt=8 (https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bryfi/id1338899352?ls=1&mt=8)

james



(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=177961)
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 4 Aug 2018, 02:08 pm
HI James,


since you mailed us about a new app Glider being available, I searched for Bryston in the App store yesterday, and found the Bryfi app... Cool.
Please let me ask if this indeed is only for the Bryfi, or also capable of finding the BDP's? I tried obviously, but my BDp1 wasn't found.


That,
Marius

Hi Marius

Yes BryFi only.

james
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 10 Dec 2018, 07:04 pm
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=187815)

MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: New Bryston BryFi Products – BryFi BW-2 and BryFi  Mini

December 2018

Bryston is pleased to announce we have two new BryFi WIRELESS products available.

•   Bryston BryFi BW-2
•   Bryston BryFi Mini.

The BW-Mini is approximately 2/3rd the size of the BW-2 and is a 2-way stereo speaker configuration.

A major software rebuild was required to allow us to add many new features. 

This new software will also be available for BW-1’s currently in the market.


The Bryston BW-2 and BW-Mini’s New Features Include:

•   Bluetooth Connectivity
•   Spotify Connect
•   Optical Input
•   Volume control of both the Analog and Optical inputs from the UI
•   USBs and Ethernet connections now located on the rear of the units
•   High powered charging USB for phones and tablets
•   Volume Up/Down and Mute buttons on the top of the BryFi
•   Barrel style power plug to brick
•   Lean back feet
•   More powerful Pi3 B+

The Bryston BW-2 and BW-Mini are in production now and will be ready to ship in about 2 weeks.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: alexone on 11 Dec 2018, 10:01 pm

...evolution! nice :thumb: :thumb:

al.
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: James Tanner on 13 Feb 2019, 10:23 am

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=190507)
Title: Re: BryFi
Post by: servingko on 11 Nov 2020, 03:55 pm
James, just wondering if there was an update for the BW-1 to enable bluetooth connectivity as was stated when it first came out?  Curious as to the differences between the BW-1 and BW-2.  Thanks.