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Industry Circles => LampizatOr => Topic started by: doak on 25 Jun 2016, 02:59 pm
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(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=145552)
"This DAC has been in the making' for the most part of 2016 but it took the final shape and form during my May 2016 voyage across the Atlantic Ocean under the sails. This month on the empty ocean gave me time to think creatively and tap to my gut feelings about the possibility of finding customers for this amazing new product. Hence the name commemorates my sailing event"
http://lampizator.eu/Fikus/DAC_ATLANTIC.html (http://lampizator.eu/Fikus/DAC_ATLANTIC.html)
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What is the base price?
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It's on the page as 4K Euro
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I couldn't find that, thanks. Pretty good price for that feature set, assuming it offers the "typical" Lampi sound.
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I couldn't find that, thanks. Pretty good price for that feature set, assuming it offers the "typical" Lampi sound.
It shows up on the order form when a faceplate color is chosen. :thumb:
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4P1L is a great tube. They are really microphonic, so I assume he is starving the filament or is dampening the sockets a ton. It's an awesome tube.
Shawn
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4P1L is a great tube. They are really microphonic, so I assume he is starving the filament or is dampening the sockets a ton. It's an awesome tube.
Shawn
Shawn- I'm always amazed at your knowledge/experience with tubes!
This is one of the few if not only dacs that they list the output voltage signal. Here being 3v.
For my own curiosity, how do you go about trying to match a tube preamp with this? I keep hearing a lot of guys say most dacs today don't need an active preamp with gain to so I'm just wondering what does one look for if you already have an active preamp with gain and are considering this dac? Seems like a passive pre would be the best bet...
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Output voltage is not what you starve. It's filament voltage. Matching preamp with a 3v output is easy, anything should just about work. You really need to spend some time on the amp to figure out the match, but assuming a normal amp, I would avoid really high gain as the 3v is enough to drive most amps on its own.
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Shawn- I'm always amazed at your knowledge/experience with tubes!
This is one of the few if not only dacs that they list the output voltage signal. Here being 3v.
For my own curiosity, how do you go about trying to match a tube preamp with this? I keep hearing a lot of guys say most dacs today don't need an active preamp with gain to so I'm just wondering what does one look for if you already have an active preamp with gain and are considering this dac? Seems like a passive pre would be the best bet...
How does the 4P1L sound compared to ECC40 or ECC88 ? I'm asking this since my current Lampi L4G4 has ECC40 and I'm quite satisfied with it :)
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How does the 4P1L sound compared to ECC40 or ECC88 ? I'm asking this since my current Lampi L4G4 has ECC40 and I'm quite satisfied with it :)
Not sure. There's a few who should have received their Atlantics by now but I don't know if they're former L4 owners or if they're even AC members that will chime in here.
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I am one of those lucky ones. I have had four Lampizators in my system: Amber, Level 4, Big 7, and now Atlantic. All four have the Lampizator signature sound - crystal clear, organic, musically-involving. My Big 7 with the volume control served as my DAC/line preamp for a good 1.5 years. It was a versatile component that could take on different personalities with different rectifier and signal tubes. My favorite were the TunbgSol 5AS4a rectifier and Sylvania 2A3 signal tubes. But as I had input switching, USB/SPDIF, PCM/DSD, AND polarity switching all in the same unit, the remote switching was a little complicated and caused confusion to my family members. So I sold it and immediately missed the Lampi sound. When I read about Lukasz' new Atlantic DAC and his enthusiam about it I had to try it. Lukasz, besides being a brilliant designer, has one of the best ears in the business. A good engineer cannot make good-sounding equipment unless he has good ear. I know and trust Lukasz' ear. So I took a chance on the Atlantic sight unseen.
Having had the Atlantic in my system for two weeks now I can happily report that it is a winner. Since it doesn't have a volume control option or extra line in, I am using it with the Luminous Audio Axiom III passive preamp, a great component in its own right which also is much simnpler to operate.
As compared to the Big 7, I would say that the Atlantic/Axiom combo retains all the positive characters of the Big 7 but also has a crystalline quality not found in the former. The difference is similar to the OTL sound as compared to good tube equipment. I have had good tube designs in my system - Cary, Counterpoint, C-J. But when I first heard OTL equipment, notably Transcendent Sound and Atma-Sphere, I knew I much preferred the OTL sound. But I couldn't deal with the amount of heat generated by OTL equipment, especially in the summer. In addition, all the fussiness of tubes biasing and noise are negatives.
Now I have the OTL sound without the fuss. The combination of the Atlantic DAC, Axiom passive preamp, Wells Audio Innamorata solid state amplifier (another great piece), all plugged into the new Wells Audio Looking Glass power conditioner and wired with DanaCables, is in a word, magical! It has the harmonically-rich sound of tubes, crystalline quality of OTL, tight bass performance of solid state, and the musically-involving, pinpointed soundstage imaging that resembles the real performance. I go to live and mostly acoustical performances at least once a month (just came back from the Montreal Jazz festival) and this comes close to the real thing.
Vinh Vu
Gingko Audio and DanaCable
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Wow! Congrats Vinh!
I'm glad you mentioned you have a passive with your setup as I'm contemplating this as well with the Atlantic and a ss amp. Thanks for the write up!
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Great write-up Vinh. Thanks!
Been waiting for some first hand "consumer" impressions on the "Atlantic." Great to get it from someone who is so conversant with what Lampizator has to offer and can relate what he is hearing to other Lampi products.
Sounds to me that the Atlantic may well be the upgrade to my L4G5 that I've dreamed about. Would appreciate your elaborating on this point: With most other Lampizator products the user has the option of "tube rolling." My L4G5 uses a pair of 6DJ8, pair of 12AU7 and single rectifier tube. This made for an incredible number of possible combinations of tubes for tailoring sound to ear and system. You've experienced this also with other Lampi DACs.
From what I read the Atlantic is "one flavor," love it or not. Sounds like you love it. Wonder what you think and feel about the "plug n play" "one sound for all" aspect of this DAC and how is that working for you?
Doak
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Doak:
Well it's kind of depends on the kind of listener you are. If you like to tinker to get different sounds to suit your mood then you should get something that allows tube rolling, preferably without having to open up the chassis. That was why I got the Big 7, and I did enjoy trying out different tubes. I used, among others, 300Bs, 6A3s, 101Ds as signal tubes and a bunch of other rectifier tubes. They all sounded good in their own ways. But these days, having less time (I took up golf :)) I just want to sit back, relax and listen to good music. I want something close to what I hear in live performances in good venues. I obsess less about hearing details on recordings, but rather focus on how the performers communicate with me emotionally. So I let myself be immersed in the beautiful view of the forrest and not on the trees (or tree barks, as some of us might do). As I get older, I have become more and more of a music lover than an audiophile.
My 2 cents.
Vinh
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Tommy:
If you like SS amp, I highly recommend Wells Audio. I have the Innamorata and Majestic in my systems. They sound like tubes without the mushiness and the fussiness :D
Vinh
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I am one of those lucky ones. I have had four Lampizators in my system: Amber, Level 4, Big 7, and now Atlantic. All four have the Lampizator signature sound - crystal clear, organic, musically-involving. My Big 7 with the volume control served as my DAC/line preamp for a good 1.5 years. It was a versatile component that could take on different personalities with different rectifier and signal tubes. My favorite were the TunbgSol 5AS4a rectifier and Sylvania 2A3 signal tubes. But as I had input switching, USB/SPDIF, PCM/DSD, AND polarity switching all in the same unit, the remote switching was a little complicated and caused confusion to my family members. So I sold it and immediately missed the Lampi sound. When I read about Lukasz' new Atlantic DAC and his enthusiam about it I had to try it. Lukasz, besides being a brilliant designer, has one of the best ears in the business. A good engineer cannot make good-sounding equipment unless he has good ear. I know and trust Lukasz' ear. So I took a chance on the Atlantic sight unseen.
Having had the Atlantic in my system for two weeks now I can happily report that it is a winner. Since it doesn't have a volume control option or extra line in, I am using it with the Luminous Audio Axiom III passive preamp, a great component in its own right which also is much simnpler to operate.
As compared to the Big 7, I would say that the Atlantic/Axiom combo retains all the positive characters of the Big 7 but also has a crystalline quality not found in the former. The difference is similar to the OTL sound as compared to good tube equipment. I have had good tube designs in my system - Cary, Counterpoint, C-J. But when I first heard OTL equipment, notably Transcendent Sound and Atma-Sphere, I knew I much preferred the OTL sound. But I couldn't deal with the amount of heat generated by OTL equipment, especially in the summer. In addition, all the fussiness of tubes biasing and noise are negatives.
Now I have the OTL sound without the fuss. The combination of the Atlantic DAC, Axiom passive preamp, Wells Audio Innamorata solid state amplifier (another great piece), all plugged into the new Wells Audio Looking Glass power conditioner and wired with DanaCables, is in a word, magical! It has the harmonically-rich sound of tubes, crystalline quality of OTL, tight bass performance of solid state, and the musically-involving, pinpointed soundstage imaging that resembles the real performance. I go to live and mostly acoustical performances at least once a month (just came back from the Montreal Jazz festival) and this comes close to the real thing.
Vinh Vu
Gingko Audio and DanaCable
Many thanks for your input Vinh Vu.. :thumb: And happy listening!
Can you tell me how does the Atlantic switches from PCM to DSD ? It does it automatically or you have to hit the switch on the back ?
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4P1L is a great tube. They are really microphonic, so I assume he is starving the filament or is dampening the sockets a ton. It's an awesome tube.
Shawn
That sounds like "It's an awesome car but it has a tendency to go out of control on turns." A "really microphonic" tube is a non-starter for me. For $4470 USD I wouldn't find this easily avoidable problem acceptable.
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I just wish they Lampizator could find a way to make the higher end dacs with the tubes NOT sticking out of the top. I would have owed a Big7 by now, just no room in my rack. Love their products
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That sounds like "It's an awesome car but it has a tendency to go out of control on turns." A "really microphonic" tube is a non-starter for me. For $4470 USD I wouldn't find this easily avoidable problem acceptable.
I am not aware that anyone has reported actually having any such problem and cannot imagine that Lampizator would issue a model in which they do not have total confidence.
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Drumiha:
The Atlantic switches automatically between PCM and DD. I much prefer that to the manual switching I had with my Big 7.
So far, I have not experienced any tube microphonic problem.
Some of my friends also wish that the tubes do not stick out on top, especially for a model that does not allow tube rollling.
Vinh Vu
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Drumiha:
The Atlantic switches automatically between PCM and DD. I much prefer that to the manual switching I had with my Big 7.
Nice, that's an important improvement IMO too.
The way I know Lukasz, maybe he's planning on adding tube-rolling option is the future for the Atlantic DAC and that's the reason he left the tubes sticking out on top.
Maybe a dealer can tell us if that is the case ?
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Lukasz is taking this early criticism of protruding tubes to heart and is looking into recessing the tubes so they will still be accessible but only stick out a tiny amount.
No guarantees he will be able to rearrange everything for this, but as always he'll try to give the people what they want.
As for microphonics. A bunch of these Atlantic DACs have been shipped already including 2 to professional reviewers and no one has reported any issues.
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Lukasz is taking this early criticism of protruding tubes to heart and is looking into recessing the tubes so they will still be accessible but only stick out a tiny amount.
No guarantees he will be able to rearrange everything for this, but as always he'll try to give the people what they want.
If he can pull it off he is going to sell a lot more of his higher end product.
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I have no problem with the tubes sticking out, but my tomcat does since he won't be able to sleep on top of the Lampizator during the cold seasons :lol:
Joking aside, will tube-rolling be an option for Atlantic DAC in the near future ?
Lukasz is taking this early criticism of protruding tubes to heart and is looking into recessing the tubes so they will still be accessible but only stick out a tiny amount.
No guarantees he will be able to rearrange everything for this, but as always he'll try to give the people what they want.
As for microphonics. A bunch of these Atlantic DACs have been shipped already including 2 to professional reviewers and no one has reported any issues.
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No. Tube rolling isn't something we want to bring to the Atlantic at this time. A part of its allure is it voiced the way Lukasz desires from day one and there is no need to research or hunt for tubes in the pursuit of upgrading.
It is the type of tube dac that will not intimidate those who would typically go for solid state and will reward them greatly for stepping outside of their comfort zone.
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I am one of those lucky ones. I have had four Lampizators in my system: Amber, Level 4, Big 7, and now Atlantic. All four have the Lampizator signature sound - crystal clear, organic, musically-involving. My Big 7 with the volume control served as my DAC/line preamp for a good 1.5 years. It was a versatile component that could take on different personalities with different rectifier and signal tubes. My favorite were the TunbgSol 5AS4a rectifier and Sylvania 2A3 signal tubes. But as I had input switching, USB/SPDIF, PCM/DSD, AND polarity switching all in the same unit, the remote switching was a little complicated and caused confusion to my family members. So I sold it and immediately missed the Lampi sound. When I read about Lukasz' new Atlantic DAC and his enthusiam about it I had to try it. Lukasz, besides being a brilliant designer, has one of the best ears in the business. A good engineer cannot make good-sounding equipment unless he has good ear. I know and trust Lukasz' ear. So I took a chance on the Atlantic sight unseen.
Having had the Atlantic in my system for two weeks now I can happily report that it is a winner. Since it doesn't have a volume control option or extra line in, I am using it with the Luminous Audio Axiom III passive preamp, a great component in its own right which also is much simnpler to operate.
As compared to the Big 7, I would say that the Atlantic/Axiom combo retains all the positive characters of the Big 7 but also has a crystalline quality not found in the former. The difference is similar to the OTL sound as compared to good tube equipment. I have had good tube designs in my system - Cary, Counterpoint, C-J. But when I first heard OTL equipment, notably Transcendent Sound and Atma-Sphere, I knew I much preferred the OTL sound. But I couldn't deal with the amount of heat generated by OTL equipment, especially in the summer. In addition, all the fussiness of tubes biasing and noise are negatives.
Now I have the OTL sound without the fuss. The combination of the Atlantic DAC, Axiom passive preamp, Wells Audio Innamorata solid state amplifier (another great piece), all plugged into the new Wells Audio Looking Glass power conditioner and wired with DanaCables, is in a word, magical! It has the harmonically-rich sound of tubes, crystalline quality of OTL, tight bass performance of solid state, and the musically-involving, pinpointed soundstage imaging that resembles the real performance. I go to live and mostly acoustical performances at least once a month (just came back from the Montreal Jazz festival) and this comes close to the real thing.
Vinh Vu
Gingko Audio and DanaCable
So basically you are saying that you don't think you've lost anything meaningful in overall SQ - just a somewhat different flavor of the Lampi house sound? That's quite a statement considering the base price of the Atlantic is about 60% of the Big7.
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I just wish they Lampizator could find a way to make the higher end dacs with the tubes NOT sticking out of the top. I would have owed a Big7 by now, just no room in my rack. Love their products
Luaksz will make a full range with the Atlantic Dac and the tubes will be 80% recessed so that will fit into racks.
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Luaksz will make a full range with the Atlantic Dac and the tubes will be 80% recessed so that will fit into racks.
Good move IMO.
Anything that makes the Lampi easier/more accessible w/o degrading sonics must be a good thing. :thumb:
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Good implementation of this tube will solve the issues of microphonics. All directly heated tubes are microphonic to some degree. The cathode is a wire that is burning unlike an indirectly heated tube.
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Manual here:
http://lampizator.eu/Manuals/Atlantic/Atlantic.pdf
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Manual here:
http://lampizator.eu/Manuals/Atlantic/Atlantic.pdf
Thanks.
Here's a quote from this manual under the heading of "Remote Control":
"You will see on the display - an alphanumeric text describing the input - for example 7 = S/
PDIF and 8 = USB. You can change the descriptors freely under the SERVICE MENU -
the Dig. Input Name section"
I see no "display" either on the DAC or the remote.
What am I missing?
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I think that only refers to the versions with preamp function and hence a remote is included???
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I think that only refers to the versions with preamp function and hence a remote is included???
Makes sense.
Was not aware that the Atlantic model was offered with such options.
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Apparently, the Atlantic will be a full parallel range to the L7 DHTs. The L4 will go and the Amber2 and Euforia will stay. At least that is my current understanding...
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Apparently, the Atlantic will be a full parallel range to the L7 DHTs. Balanced, chipless DSD option, preamp function, etc.
The L4 will go and the Amber2 and Euforia will stay. At least that is my current understanding...
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Well thats cool Norman. I noticed in that manual you posted the Atlantic has a PLUS version with tube rectifier. One thing for sure, Lukasz does not rest on his laurels.
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Fully agree Tomy.
I saw some private feedback and this Dac will be a gamechanger at this pricepoint. Wow.
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1st review here:
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2016/09/03/review-lampizator-atlantic-dac/
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1st review here:
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2016/09/03/review-lampizator-atlantic-dac/
Wow, impressive review. I bet he just sold some Atlantic DACs for Lampi. Scot has good taste and good ears, so his impression means something to me. Too bad Lukasz and company can't update the web site ot reflect all the upgrades and options mentioned in the review.
I wonder how the new DSD engine in this DAC sounds compared to his other DSD engine, and what's different about this one?
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Wow, impressive review. I bet he just sold some Atlantic DACs for Lampi. Scot has good taste and good ears, so his impression means something to me. Too bad Lukasz and company can't update the web site ot reflect all the upgrades and options mentioned in the review.
I wonder how the new DSD engine in this DAC sounds compared to his other DSD engine, and what's different about this one?
ALRainbow has both DSD engines and says they are almost equal. Perhaps the Chipless has a slight edge...but he was not sure
Mike at AudioShark will be chipping in with his review soon, so that will be one to look forward to, especially as Mike has L7 and GG experience.
I guess Lukasz will update the website soon, as it was he who gave the info to Scot.
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http://hifiknights.com/reviews/sources/lampizator-atlantic/
new review.
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Pretty amazing that Lukasz made a 4000 euro DAC that competes with a 18000 euro DAC. Not sure if it was a smart move on his part :)
http://hifiknights.com/reviews/sources/lampizator-atlantic/
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Folks,
I put my order in for the Atlantic DAC: W/rectifier tube, Clock upgrade, remote volume control, preamp.
Now the waiting.....
FYI:
I too, was concerned about the DAC fitting in my rack. I was advised that I could order the DAC with the tubes slightly recessed into the casing - which I did.
Dave
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Folks,
I put my order in for the Atlantic DAC: W/rectifier tube, Clock upgrade, remote volume control, preamp.
Now the waiting.....
FYI:
I too, was concerned about the DAC fitting in my rack. I was advised that I could order the DAC with the tubes slightly recessed into the casing - which I did.
Dave
Good for you Dave! I didn't know there was a clock upgrade.
Congrats!
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Folks,
I put my order in for the Atlantic DAC: W/rectifier tube, Clock upgrade, remote volume control, preamp.
Now the waiting.....
FYI:
I too, was concerned about the DAC fitting in my rack. I was advised that I could order the DAC with the tubes slightly recessed into the casing - which I did.
Dave
What was the total on that rig?
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The EU site now has a whole smorgasbord of choices for the Atlantic including different tubes like the 6n6p and 6sn7gt. What the hell Lukasz! :D
http://www.lampizator.eu/Fikus/DAC_ATLANTIC.html
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Tom,
The Lampizator website needs to be updated.
However, a recent "part-time audiophile" review of the Atlantic lists all the prices and options.
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Folks,
I put my order in for the Atlantic DAC: W/rectifier tube, Clock upgrade, remote volume control, preamp.
Now the waiting.....
FYI:
I too, was concerned about the DAC fitting in my rack. I was advised that I could order the DAC with the tubes slightly recessed into the casing - which I did.
Dave
Heavily recessed infact. Seems like only 1 to 2 CM sticking out for the DHPs. Not sure about the rectifier though...
Congrats, thats a very loaded Atlantic. Should kick butt.
I heard that like 8 are in the oven baking as we speak...LoL
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Tom,
The Lampizator website needs to be updated.
However, a recent "part-time audiophile" review of the Atlantic lists all the prices and options.
The website is updated with all the info. You can see them in the order form...
US prices not there as you have to go thru Gopher and Rob or local dealers like Mike.
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I agree partially recessed tall tubes are a good idea to allow fitting into a rack but I still prefer to see at least part of any tube and I think it's also better for heat dissipation. The only thing I really don't like to see is tubes mounted sideways or, even worse, upside down.
Not that I'm in the august company of the higher end Lampi DACs: I just ordered an Amber II.
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Upside down is better than sideways. My sole worry is shorts. More likely mounted sideways than vertical.
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I remember my Audio Research mono amps had all of their 16 tubes mounted sideways.... they still may be...
I found out today that I'll be getting the Atlantic with the full sized chassis to accommodate the recessed power tubes with the rectifier tubes mounted sideways. Thus the height of the unit will not be much higher than the Level 4. LampizatOr has been very responsive to make this custom unit. Cool.
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I remember my Audio Research mono amps had all of their 16 tubes mounted sideways.... they still may be...
I found out today that I'll be getting the Atlantic with the full sized chassis to accommodate the recessed power tubes with the rectifier tubes mounted sideways. Thus the height of the unit will not be much higher than the Level 4. LampizatOr has been very responsive to make this custom unit. Cool.
That is very cool Dave.
Just looked at the eu site and noticed they've added new pics with tube rectifier and volume control. If Lukasz can retro fit mine with tube recti on top like the pic that would be great.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=150416)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=150417)
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As a former owner of a Big Six, I am looking forward to getting the Atlantic in my system. After a lot of consideration, I believe I will bypass the tube rectifier option, but I am wondering if anyone here has an opinion about the superclock option? It is not costly, but what exactly are the sonic advantages in getting this upgrade?
It is certainly encouraging to see all of the great reviews pouring in for this DAC. Congrats to Lukasz and the Lampi team for coming up with a great DAC for us mere mortals who don't have the scratch for a Golden Gate! I can't wait to hear it.
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Superclock to me is a no-brainer.
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I ended up getting both the superclock and tube rectifier upgrades. I like having the flexibility of fine tuning the Atlantic down the line, though I am sure it sounds amazing just as it is.
I am looking forward to more feedback from other owners and sharing impressions in the weeks and months to come.
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http://www.audioshark.org/showthread.php?t=10429&page=15&p=181364&viewfull=1#post181364
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=151141)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=151142)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=151143)
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Do you have any phase noise plots on the new superclock? I heard that phase noise can vary up to 10dB @ 10hz from clock to clock. Do you guys provide certified phase noise plots with each DAC?
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Congratulations!
I ordered an Atlantic myself last week. Basic version with silver faceplate and an orange front panel light.
According to Lukasz, it is being tested right now :-)
It is going to be used with a vintage Marantz 7 tube preamp and a pair of Marantz Model 9 monoblocks.
These are all solid state rectified, so I didn't feel the need to have tube rectification in the Atlantic.
I noticed silicon dampener rings in the small tubes. Are these supplied by Lampizator?
Regards,
crooner
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Congratulations!
I noticed silicon dampener rings in the small tubes. Are these supplied by Lampizator?
Regards,
crooner
Yes.
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Guys,
How much better is the Atlantic in comparison to the Amber which was on par with the L4? Still spinning discs...
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Guys,
How much better is the Atlantic in comparison to the Amber which was on par with the L4? Still spinning discs...
I have a Amber II and will be getting an Atlantic in about a week. I can certainly let you know.
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Superclock to me is a no-brainer.
It's seems to be universally accepted that lower jitter clocks for DAC's result in better sound. The go to figure we look at to gauge jitter when it comes to audio applications is 10hz or lower close in phase noise. You mention that the usb is "Superclocked". So is the "super" in "superclocked"representing ultra low 10hz phase noise?
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Hello,
Still anxiously awaiting the Atlantic...
However, a question.
I've been using the Up-Tone Regen with the Esoteric K-03.
Any thoughts regarding it's use with the Lampizator??
Thanks in advance.
Dave
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Hello,
Still anxiously awaiting the Atlantic...
However, a question.
I've been using the Up-Tone Regen with the Esoteric K-03.
Any thoughts regarding it's use with the Lampizator??
Thanks in advance.
Dave
Did you recieve it yet? I suspect that with the superclocks, you wont need the Regen. Try with and without and let us know.
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Hi Winson,
Yes.
I received the Atlantic last Friday and have been running it constantly. It has settled in nicely. Since I'm not very good at audiophile descriptions I'll liken it to light coming in from an open window - natural, balanced. Compared to light through a glass window - distorted, with artificial intensity. I've always wondered if digital ever could be more than a letdown from analog... it's telling that I haven't played LPs since the Atlantic arrived!
As far as the Regen, I wanted to keep it in place, just to eliminate another signal change to compare the Esoteric and the Lampizator. In the coming days I'll pull it out to determine what I prefer and will report back.
Thanks,
Dave
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Thanx Dave!
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6moons review is out!
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews2/lampizator2/1.html
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Reading the review right now. Glad they are doing the standard Atlantic, which is the one I have.
Nice to look at the internal construction. I have resisted opening mine due to warranty concerns.
Looks very well built which is great to know since build quality is of great importance to me.
Interesting take from this review on the merits of PCM/DSD up sampling versus straight bit perfect signal fed into the DAC.
Since this DAC went through all the trouble of incorporating a discrete R2R circuit into it, one would think a PCM signal would sound best going through it. DSD could be up sampled but I doubt if there are real benefits to this at the expense of much higher CPU requirements.
Up sampling to DSD made sense with Delta Sigma DACs where PCM usually gets converted to a 1 bit signal. Doing the conversion at the computer would theoretically improve the sound.
Up sampling PCM to DXD I guess enables the use of FIR filters and the like, and so people like the coloration they impart to the sound. I guess to each his own...
Also if one were to do Up sampling of PCM to DSD, then opting for a DSD only DAC would make more sense., ditching the R2R altogether.
I actually enjoy the sound of the R2R array on the Atlantic. I think PCM sounds heavenly through it. And I don't have to worry about a Core I7 processor needed to up sample with no glitches....
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No. Tube rolling isn't something we want to bring to the Atlantic at this time. A part of its allure is it voiced the way Lukasz desires from day one and there is no need to research or hunt for tubes in the pursuit of upgrading.
It is the type of tube dac that will not intimidate those who would typically go for solid state and will reward them greatly for stepping outside of their comfort zone.
Perfect :)
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Who would be the best person to contact about purchasing one of these amps in North America? I'm in Canada.
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Leftside,
We are the North American distributors for LampizatOr so I'd be happy to discuss purchasing an Atlantic with you. Sending a PM now.
Fred
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Well, I was going to wait for the Spring, but decided to purchase an Atlantic DAC from Fred today :) This is by far the most I've spent on a piece of audio equipment and triples the price of my previous DAC (a used McIntosh D100).
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Nice to look at the internal construction. I have resisted opening mine due to warranty concerns.
Looks very well built which is great to know since build quality is of great importance to me.
Since this DAC went through all the trouble of incorporating a discrete R2R circuit into it, one would think a PCM signal would sound best going through it. DSD could be up sampled but I doubt if there are real benefits to this at the expense of much higher CPU requirements.
Also if one were to do Up sampling of PCM to DSD, then opting for a DSD only DAC would make more sense., ditching the R2R altogether.
Agreed on all points. I'll be playing PCM and DSD files.
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Hey Gopher, the Atlantic has been out for a little bit and now all of a sudden I see a Golden Atlantic, what's the price on this compared to the "Atlantic". https://www.facebook.com/FikusLampi/posts/1898064353758827
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It's a lot more! I'll let Gopher tell you the exact price. I went with the regular Atlantic with a few additions/upgrades.
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Hey Gopher, the Atlantic has been out for a little bit and now all of a sudden I see a Golden Atlantic, what's the price on this compared to the "Atlantic". https://www.facebook.com/FikusLampi/posts/1898064353758827
:drool: :drool: :drool:
Fikus should try the Daedalus Isolation Devices: better than roller blocks.
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Gold Atlantic isn't on the Lampizator web site yet; so no price. I assume it will be soon.
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The pricing on the Golden Atlantic is still tentative at this time, but as soon as it is finalized I will be posting it (and finally getting around to updating our North American website, lol!)
Lou is a great guy and the DiDs are indeed dandy. We actually showed with the Daedalus DiDs at AXPONA last year and had great feedback on our room.