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Audio/Video Gear and Systems => The Vinyl Circle => Topic started by: bycead on 2 Apr 2022, 10:20 pm

Title: Systemdek VII first upgrade suggestions
Post by: bycead on 2 Apr 2022, 10:20 pm
Hi folks,

I’m new on this forum. I have a stock Systemdek VII and am wondering what should be my first upgrade, tonearm or the wiring. I can’t afford both at this time.

Regards
Title: Re: Systemdek VII first upgrade suggestions
Post by: roscoe65 on 2 Apr 2022, 11:08 pm
I would use it as is.  It doesn’t make sense financially to upgrade the unit.  If you wanted to upgrade, I would trade it toward something like a Rega P3.
Title: Re: Systemdek VII first upgrade suggestions
Post by: mick wolfe on 3 Apr 2022, 05:28 pm
Hi folks,

I’m new on this forum. I have a stock Systemdek VII and am wondering what should be my first upgrade, tonearm or the wiring. I can’t afford both at this time.

Regards

Depends on what arm is currently on the turntable. Unless there's a clear issue with the wiring, leave well enough alone. A classic "fool's errand".  Seems to be a fine deck as is if it was properly maintained. I'd just consider a new cartridge if you haven't already and a general tune-up/cleaning. Evaluate from there. If you feel the current arm is holding you back, maybe check out the newer Rega arms, but as already mentioned, there may come a time where it's simply more prudent to consider a new table.
Title: Re: Systemdek VII first upgrade suggestions
Post by: Scott F. on 4 Apr 2022, 05:40 pm
Assuming you have a Rega arm, an offset counterweight makes for a nice improvement for not much cash. Next step might be the Audiomods arm mods.

https://www.tnt-audio.com/sorgenti/audiomods_e.html

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175053132389?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28
Title: Re: Systemdek VII first upgrade suggestions
Post by: simoon on 14 Apr 2022, 09:24 pm
I have one, with a Linn Basik + tonearm, that I do not use any more, but I upgraded the platter with a SRM TECH acrylic platter, and it made some nice differences.

Highs got less splashy sounding than with the glass platter, and the midbass became more defined.

http://srm-tech.co.uk/epages/4c008923-2265-416e-a207-cc9dd8b06028.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=Categories (http://srm-tech.co.uk/epages/4c008923-2265-416e-a207-cc9dd8b06028.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=Categories)

I also upgraded the felt mat to better, generic mat I found on Ebay, for another small sonic upgrade. They can still be found there. Just search for Systendek upgrade mat.

You should also replace the sponge dampers in the springs with new ones. Some people claim that memory foam works great. I used foam designed for Linn Sondek. People on this sub-forum should have good recommendations. 

One more easy upgrade, which I did, but I am not sure I noticed any differences, but it is so easy and cheap, it might be a no brainer. Cover the inside of bottom cover/plate with some Dynamat or similar type of sound deadening material. It is supposed to make a small difference in low bass. YMMV. It is supposed to make a bigger difference with the plastic bottom plater, than the metal one. My TT has the metal one, so maybe that's why I didn't notice a difference.

I keep remembering more upgrades. SRM TECH also has damping rings that go around the outer edge of the platter. They work on glass and acrylic platters. They create a wave trap to improve dampening and lower resonance. They also may improve rotational stability.

 
Title: Re: Systemdek VII first upgrade suggestions
Post by: bycead on 4 Feb 2023, 07:43 pm
Apologies for the tardy reply, sometimes life get busy.
The unit is completely stock wiring and stock Jelco arm.

Appreciate all of the replies, I like the platter and dampening suggestions and will look at those items. I’m a Grado fan and found a gold cartridge to install, that will be sometime soon.

I was hoping to hear someone to mention any comments about higher quality Jelco arms. Any thoughts on this or am I waisting funds in this direction?

I currently run  either either refurbished units, a Citation Receiver (1977/78 era) and a Fisher 400 (1963 era) with most NOS tubes. These drive Tannoy SRM 15x’s that are re-coned, but stock vintage components in the crossovers. I found some timer delay relays some time ago, they should get an update as well. (Currently looking for someone in the Calgary or Edmonton who is competent to update/ upgrade the crossovers, but that’s down the road as well)

Thank you
Title: Re: Systemdek VII first upgrade suggestions
Post by: S Clark on 4 Feb 2023, 11:43 pm
Jelco arms are some of the best quality/price arms out there... esp. the 370 and 750 series
Title: Re: Systemdek VII first upgrade suggestions
Post by: FullRangeMan on 5 Feb 2023, 09:56 am
Hi folks,

I’m new on this forum. I have a stock Systemdek VII and am wondering what should be my first upgrade, tonearm or the wiring. I can’t afford both at this time.

Regards
Dont fix what is not broken.
Title: Re: Systemdek VII first upgrade suggestions
Post by: /mp on 6 Feb 2023, 05:32 pm
Do you have a record cleaning machine?
Title: Re: Systemdek VII first upgrade suggestions
Post by: bycead on 14 Mar 2024, 07:29 pm
Yes, I do have a record cleaning machine. I've cleaned many of my vinyls quite some time ago. Not sure if there is any set schedule to do this.