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The Commercial Zone => Audio Shows and Events => Rocky Mountain Audio Fest => Topic started by: mgalusha on 2 Jan 2008, 03:35 am
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Just posting a calendar event for this years RMAF. Yeah it's early but... :)
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"Yeah it's early but..."
But its good to plan ahead....the place to be in October.... :dance:
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Hi Guys,
Thanks for the heads up. I think Hugh has already packed his bag including the ubiquitous suit. Looks like we may arrive via Seattle this time. I mention this so that the Lexus-owning denizens of Seattle have time to leave town before Hugh grills 'em. And I think there will be a new speaker for you to drape your frame over, Chris, but then I'm only the mule (as in "Shrek").George, if you're listening, you should try and hear the V Sonics when you're in Melbourne.
Cheers,
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A new speaker Marty....good news !! I'll be ready.... and looking forward to seeing you and Hugh again...:wink:
And I think there will be a new speaker for you to drape your frame over, Chris, but then I'm only the mule (as in "Shrek").
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So, for those who went last year, what were the best places to stay?
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I've had no problems with the Marriott hosting the show. It is convenient to be able to stop into the room for a rest, etc. Great show special pricing too, once time gets a little closer. Good restaurants 5 minute walk, and good enough restaurant on premises.
Can't wait!!
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I've had no problems with the Marriott hosting the show. It is convenient to be able to stop into the room for a rest, etc. Great show special pricing too, once time gets a little closer. Good restaurants 5 minute walk, and good enough restaurant on premises.
Can't wait!!
Agreed Rich ....but if you didn't book the Marriott early (a few months before Oct.)....you had to find another hotel close by. All rooms were sold out for the '07 show - first time thats happened.
Its becoming a very popular show.....well worth attending.... 8)
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Another vote for the Marriott. Great bar area - you could even get a drink when Chris and Wayne were in full swing!
The Denver Tech Center Hotel was very cheap (via Expedia) but they were undergoing renovations and had no restaurant at that time. A fair way from the Marriott, though.
The Hyatt Regency Tech Center Hotel was very nice and walking distance from the Marriott.
Different strokes for different folks I guess.
A vote for "Il Fornaio" restaurant - great Italian food - Hugh and I went twice.
Cheers,
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Another vote for the Marriott. Great bar area - you could even get a drink when Chris and Wayne were in full swing!
Marty....
They have excellent selection of beer there...and a "happy hour".....what more could one ask for..(http://www.funfilesandsmiles.com/smileys/2436.gif)
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Last October, I stayed at Hyatt (3 mins drive from Marriott) and the room is actually nicer than Marriott, but this year I'm going to stay at Marriott, I quite like the Burgers and the breakfast buffet served at Marriott's restuarants. :thumb:
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Another vote for the Marriott. Great bar area - you could even get a drink when Chris and Wayne were in full swing!
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=12816)
What does Chris lean on when he is in the bar?
--Michael
(Photo used without permission -- sorry...)
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Another vote for the Marriott. Great bar area - you could even get a drink when Chris and Wayne were in full swing!
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=12816)
What does Chris lean on when he is in the bar?
--Michael
(Photo used without permission -- sorry...)
I didn't have a camera with me, but I saw him using a bar stool that has been extensively modified.
I doesn't measure any different, but Chris says it is much more comfortable to lean on since the mods. :wink:
Lin
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I didn't have a camera with me, but I saw him using a bar stool that has been extensively modified.
I doesn't measure any different, but Chris says it is much more comfortable to lean on since the mods. :wink:
Lin
That is really funny!! :lol: I needed a good laugh since my choices in a football pool are literally Tango Uniform. Thanks a lot TB and and 'Skins!
--Michael
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Just posting a calendar event for this years RMAF. Yeah it's early but... :)
Mike....
The 2008 RMAF website is live....Link... (http://audiofest.net/2008/index.php?Sid=7773a7b551eee949ae3e1681dcb242f6)... :thumb:
News......."The Rocky Mountain Audio Fest will be held at two hotels: the Denver Marriott Tech Center Hotel and the Hyatt Regency Tech Center."
Yep...its getting even bigger....and the place to be in October.... :hyper:
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I had a nice long chat with Al Stiefel yesterday. He is one of the promoters for RMAF. They are planning quite a few seminars this year. There will be a series of discussions on hard drive stored music. I believe there will be about 7 different topics. More information should be on the RMAF website in a week or two.
Al has mentioned that most of the seminars will be ONLY open to people who have registered and signed up for tickets. There may be a nominal charge for some of the seminars, but the main thing is to sign-up for the discussions you wish to attend.
There will be 150 rooms exhibiting this year. I do not think it will be possible to see every room in three days. I think everyone attending RMAF should try to go in with a plan of what gear they want to look at and who they want to see. With two hotels now, there will be a LOT more to see and hear. Get rooms reservations in early. Al has gotten a lot more requests for display rooms then he can accommodate. All the large display rooms are sold out. He has to wait until the end of this month to see who has signed up again from last year. That is when he will know if he can add any more exhibitors.
I feel that his show will be even better than last year. I am already getting excited about it. I will be showing with Hugh Dean of Aspen Audio and Mike Garner of TweekGeek. We have already asked for two rooms.
See you in October.
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Wayne....
There will be 150 rooms exhibiting this year. I do not think it will be possible to see every room in three days. I think everyone attending RMAF should try to go in with a plan of what gear they want to look at and who they want to see. With two hotels now, there will be a LOT more to see and hear.
Thats for sure....a lot to hear.
Wayne....do you happen to know how they will break up the show.... :scratch:
Meaning half at the Marriott, half at the Hyatt....or fill the Marriott first, then the rest at the Hyatt ??? Just wondering....thanks. :thumb:
Chris
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Is the Marriott open for reservations now at the show rates or is that not until May?
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Chris,
There will be 9 or 10 suites at the Hyatt. These are BIG rooms. The ground floor rooms are about 20' x 30'. The second floor will have three rooms 45' x 27'. The standard room at the Marriott is 13' x 19'. There were a lot of requests for larger rooms from some of the exhibitors. That is why Al got in touch with the Hyatt. All of the display rooms there are sold out. There will also be two rooms there for seminars only. The digital sessions will be held there.
Tom,
I am not sure about sleeping room reservations. Our chat didn't cover that topic. :oops:
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Thanks Wayne..... :thumb:
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Tom,
I am not sure about sleeping room reservations. Our chat didn't cover that topic. :oops:
Sorry, I was just being lazy. I can still pick up the phone :)
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Six months to go..... RMAF '08... (http://audiofest.net/2008/index.php?Sid=7773a7b551eee949ae3e1681dcb242f6)... :wink:
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Friday Saturday
SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY
RMAF MADDNESS
BE THERE!
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Finally got my confirmation back from the Marriott today so it looks like I'm locked in :thumb:
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Yo Guys!!
Me too! See you there on the afternoon of the 10th.
Cheers
Charlie
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Tom & Charlie, are they taking room reservations for show-goers yet? There is usually one guy to call to make reservation for special RMAF price, but I thought it was still too early to book a room?
Thanks
Rich
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Wifey and I are seriously thinking of going this year. Never been to a show like this but looks like this is the one to see.
Any tips for a first-timer?
Places to avoid? Is there a preferred AudioCircle hotel etc.?
Do NYC Ravers ever try to coordinate flights?
Do any wives come too?
Any tips most welcome.
Thanks!
-Mike
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Tom & Charlie, are they taking room reservations for show-goers yet? There is usually one guy to call to make reservation for special RMAF price, but I thought it was still too early to book a room?
Thanks
Rich
The RMAF site has the Marriott pdf registration form up now. You can fill it out online and email it in or fax it to the contact name. He'll send you a confirmation back and yes, there are special rates.
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Thanks Tom, got it.. :thumb:
http://audiofest.net/2008/downloads/reservation_request.pdf
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Guys:
I am looking forward to meeting everyone at RMAF this year. Just booked a room at the Marriott for Vera and me.
Ken
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mfsoa/Mike....
Wifey and I are seriously thinking of going this year. Never been to a show like this but looks like this is the one to see.
Good....it is the "one" to attend....a lot to see and hear...even better than the NY shows.... :wink:
Any tips for a first-timer?
Comfortable shoes....many rooms to check out....and this year there will be two hotels with displays. They are very close to each other.... 8)
Places to avoid? Is there a preferred AudioCircle hotel etc.?
From the very beginning (since the show started a few years ago) ....the Marriott Denver Tech is where RMAF has been held....its a nice place...and your right in the "action". There is a discount for booking there...nice bar...and restaurants. This hotel is not in the center of Denver....its on the outskirts....but the city is not far away. I've not found anything to avoid... 8)
Do NYC Ravers ever try to coordinate flights?
I use Jet Blue....straight thru.... JFK to Denver. You should check out the routes from where your leaving from.
Do any wives come too?
From the Rave....Maria...toprounds/Mike's wife came last year....and some from Audio Circle did come with their wives.
Any tips most welcome.
Just to have a good time.... and you will...:D
You will meet many from AC (a great bunch of people)....always a meet and greet on Friday afternoon in the bar....around 5PM. Plus.....some of the finest stereo equipment you'll ever see....from the biggest to the smallest companies...all in the same spot....and just too much to see....but I try.
Another tip...book it as early as you can....its growing in size every year.
Hope to see you and your wife there...it will be a good getaway.... aa
Chris
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Do you guys wanna hookup at the downstairs food/bar place at the hotel on the second night of the show? We can relax, have dinner and drinks. Maybe i can cull up some goodies to bring with me and hold an Audio Circle giveaway :)
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Do you guys wanna hookup at the downstairs food/bar place at the hotel on the second night of the show? We can relax, have dinner and drinks. Maybe i can cull up some goodies to bring with me and hold an Audio Circle giveaway :)
There is always a GTG in the Marriott bar/restaurant area on Friday evening after the show winds down. Many of the AC vendors and regulars are there. It's really a great time to meet and connect faces to AC names. Look forward to seeing everyone there! Tom
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Tom,
Sweeet, look fwd to seeing many of the Audio Circle guys. RMAF is an awesome show for sure!
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Any tips most welcome.
Just to have a good time.... and you will...:D
You will meet many from AC (a great bunch of people)....always a meet and greet on Friday afternoon in the bar....around 5PM. Plus.....some of the finest stereo equipment you'll ever see....from the biggest to the smallest companies...all in the same spot....and just too much to see....but I try.
Another tip...book it as early as you can....its growing in size every year.
Hope to see you and your wife there...it will be a good getaway.... aa
Chris
RMAF is the place to be, for sure.
Chris is right. Comfortable shoes is good advice. Also, I found that you have to pick and choose which rooms you invest your time in. There are many, many rooms, and if you're not careful, you might find yourself on Sunday with a list of very good rooms that you have not visited. Keep in mind that RMAF 2008 is going to be bigger than last year.
I would probably say to prioritize. Take a peek in rooms, if they are very interesting to you, go in and hang out, if they are just merely something curious, put them on a "come back to" list and move on to another "very interesting" room.
Meeting AudioCircle members at RMAF 2007 was definitely the highlight of the show for me. It was a lot of fun hanging out. :P
Cheers
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Any tips most welcome.
Just to have a good time.... and you will...:D
You will meet many from AC (a great bunch of people)....always a meet and greet on Friday afternoon in the bar....around 5PM. Plus.....some of the finest stereo equipment you'll ever see....from the biggest to the smallest companies...all in the same spot....and just too much to see....but I try.
Another tip...book it as early as you can....its growing in size every year.
Hope to see you and your wife there...it will be a good getaway.... aa
Chris
RMAF is the place to be, for sure.
Chris is right. Comfortable shoes is good advice. Also, I found that you have to pick and choose which rooms you invest your time in. There are many, many rooms, and if you're not careful, you might find yourself on Sunday with a list of very good rooms that you have not visited. Keep in mind that RMAF 2008 is going to be bigger than last year.
I would probably say to prioritize. Take a peek in rooms, if they are very interesting to you, go in and hang out, if they are just merely something curious, put them on a "come back to" list and move on to another "very interesting" room.
Meeting AudioCircle members at RMAF 2007 was definitely the highlight of the show for me. It was a lot of fun hanging out. :P
Cheers
Prioritizing is a great suggestion. I tend to prepare using the program guide for the first day, spin pretty fast through the rooms of most interest to see where I might want to come back for more. Evening was a great time to hear what others thought were worthwhile and sounding particularly good, then add those to the list of second day visits. So much to see and hear :)
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Places to avoid? Is there a preferred AudioCircle hotel etc.?
From the very beginning (since the show started a few years ago) ....the Marriott Denver Tech is where RMAF has been held....its a nice place...and your right in the "action". There is a discount for booking there...nice bar...and restaurants. This hotel is not in the center of Denver....its on the outskirts....but the city is not far away. I've not found anything to avoid... 8)
There was that recommended diner in town that you, Jeff and I tried at 1 AM, major disappointment there! I don't recall the name tho... :scratch:
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Hope many of you will visit our room at RMAF, and being a Denver resident thought I would share a few suggestions as well.
If you can't get into the Marriott or Hyatt, there is a Residence Inn and a Courtyard off of County Line Road that are right next to the light rail which you can take up to Belleview and walk over to the Marriott in case you are lacking wheels. Also there is a full service Marriott off Lincoln that is also close to the light rail, any of these would probably be cheaper than the Tech Center hotels.
Cool River is a nice restaurant near the Marriott, good atmosphere and food. Also Morton's is not far away, and there is a new Ted's Montana Grill across the freeway as well for casual dining. There is a new Comedy Works and movie theater across the freeway if anyone needs something to do when they are done for the day.
Should be a great show!
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Places to avoid? Is there a preferred AudioCircle hotel etc.?
From the very beginning (since the show started a few years ago) ....the Marriott Denver Tech is where RMAF has been held....its a nice place...and your right in the "action". There is a discount for booking there...nice bar...and restaurants. This hotel is not in the center of Denver....its on the outskirts....but the city is not far away. I've not found anything to avoid... 8)
There was that recommended diner in town that you, Jeff and I tried at 1 AM, major disappointment there! I don't recall the name tho... :scratch:
Ah...yes....RMAF 2005. My first visit to the show...
Friday night, after the concert, Gordy, Captain Humble, and myself took a cab ride to Pete's Kitchen (http://www.petesrestaurantstoo.com/petesKitchen.html) in Denver...open 24/7. When we got there, they were closed for an hour so they could clean up the place... :? So we waited....but the meal was nothing to "write home" about....and it had some good ratings....you live and learn. Turned into a long and late night.
We did better on Saturday night....went to Buckhorn's.. (http://www.buckhornexchange.com/)....food was pretty good....and lots of stuff to try... aa
Capped it off with a few rounds of scotch at Tyson's favorite spot....Pints Pub (http://www.pintspub.com/) 8)
Another long....but fun night.... :D
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Chris,
That's a pretty amazing memory that you have.....especially remembering places where the experience was "nothing to write home about".....now, where was I heading before reading your post.... :scratch:
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Bad news....a friend of mine called Marriott yesterday the $94/night room from 10-12 October are fully booked! :( :(
Luckily I booked mine last Sunday.. :green:
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Bad news....a friend of mine called Marriott yesterday the $94/night room from 10-12 October are fully booked! :( :(
Luckily I booked mine last Sunday.. :green:
I think the Hyatt next door has the same deal....$94.00 a night.
Rooms available there....don't know... :scratch:
http://audiofest.net/2008/accommodations.php?Sid=774d0c476bc5722fff13380335a17e30
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Yes..there're still good deals at Hyatt. I've told my friend about it, but he insists he want to stay at the Marriott so he pay $170/night! :duh:
I prefer the food at Marriott - breakfast, lunch, and the bar are all better than Hyatt. :wink:
Bad news....a friend of mine called Marriott yesterday the $94/night room from 10-12 October are fully booked! :( :(
Luckily I booked mine last Sunday.. :green:
I think the Hyatt next door has the same deal....$94.00 a night.
Rooms available there....don't know... :scratch:
http://audiofest.net/2008/accommodations.php?Sid=774d0c476bc5722fff13380335a17e30
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The question to ask....how much time are you really going to spend in the hotel room ?
See you at the show Barry.... :beer:
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Somewhat of an advantage being a senior citizen(77). I got my room at the Marriott for $93. a night. If I don't croak before then I'll see you there.
Cheers
Charlie
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I look forward to meeting you all there. Rm 547. Never been to the show before, will likely be found in everyone else's room checking out cool gear :)
Ian
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Al and I wanted to let everyone know there are rooms available at both the Marriott and Hyatt. Unfortunately, the Marriott's 800 number central reservation center cannot keep up with RMAF rates. If you want to stay at the Marriott, please go to http://audiofest.net/2008/accommodations.php to download the Marriott Reservation form, or call or email our Reservation Contact, Bianca Carlson at 303-740-2590 or bianca.carlson@marriott.com.
In the future, please call or email us (info@audiofest.net) so we can take care of the situation. I am not very consistent about checking the online forums.
Thank you for supporting RMAF. Your support and enthusiasm is what makes this monumental effort worth it. Marjorie Baumert
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(http://www.cafeastrology.com/images/numerology5.gif) months to go....RMAF '08 (http://audiofest.net/2008/index.php?Sid=7773a7b551eee949ae3e1681dcb242f6)... :thumb:
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Somebody is chomping at the bit! I wonder who?
Cheers
Charlie
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Got a great deal on airfare. Flying from Oakland Ca. on Southwest to Denver For $205.00. Can't beat that with a stick.
Cheers
Charlie
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$205.00 is round trip.
Cheers
Charlie
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Somebody is chomping at the bit! I wonder who?
Cheers
Charlie
Yes....I wonder Charlie.... :scratch: :lol:
But in reality....see....you got a nice deal on the airfare.
I bring up RMAF so others that might be thinking about going, act on it....time goes fast.
And as you know....its a great show, even bigger this year....and many from AC attend.
See you there Charlie.... :thumb:
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Hey Charlie.....
Just (http://www.in-depth-numerology.com/images/cont/primary-number-4.jpg)months to go till....RMAF '08.. (http://audiofest.net/2008/index.php).. 8)
And that means....its almost..."Rocky Mountain Martini Time".... :wink:
(http://www.stuff.co.nz/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/martini-olive-200-x-300.jpg)
See you there..... :thumb:
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BTW: i'll be the moderator of a seminar called called Music Everywhere
Explore methods for ripping, storing, and distributing digital music in your home, car, office, and on mobile devices. This panel will take a broad view for managing and maximizing the extensibility of your music collection.
It is scheduled for 11:00 Saturday in the Highlands Room, Hyatt Regency Tech Center. Look fwd to seeing many Audio Circle folks there, as am planning some good panel members and some free giveaways too :)
Alas, Apple already turned me down (anyone got connections) and am in talks with Microsoft and others while i HAVE secured... :)
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Hey Charlie.....
Just (http://www.in-depth-numerology.com/images/cont/primary-number-4.jpg)months to go till....RMAF '08.. (http://audiofest.net/2008/index.php).. 8)
And that means....its almost..."Rocky Mountain Martini Time".... :wink:
(http://www.stuff.co.nz/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/martini-olive-200-x-300.jpg)
See you there..... :thumb:
Never heard of a rocky mountain martini...I hope that is an olive in there and not an "oyster" :wink:
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I just booked my car for $15 a day from Enterprise.com
You can also go to Advantage rent a car (www.arac.com) and picked up a car for $9.35/day :D
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3 ....
(http://www.hrea.org/erc/Library/primary/Opening_the_Door/number3.jpg)....
(http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/7b7e18eb-c2f3-46cf-a2cf-1c6cec407dd4_4.jpg) months to go.... :thumb:
RMAF....2008 (http://audiofest.net/2008/index.php?Sid=7773a7b551eee949ae3e1681dcb242f6).... :hyper:
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2 Months To Go !!!! :hyper:
There's still time to make your plans....and the Exhibitor List (http://audiofest.net/2008/exhibitor_listing.php?ex=ALL&Sid=d01ca086d98e14b649ba1bf0b6375fe4) has gotten a little longer.... 8)
And......don't forget to pack your t-shirt... (http://www.printfection.com/audiocircleshirt)... :beer:
See you there..... :thumb:
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I will be in India the beginning of the week and may not attend this year. :(
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Hope you get back in time to make it Pete.
Bryan
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I will be in India the beginning of the week and may not attend this year. :(
If you are like me, bring your pop tarts in your suitcase! aa
I should be going to Bangalore sometime before the end of the year, but it definitely won't be the week of RMAF.
George
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I'll be making my first ever trek to RMAF!
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See you there!!!
Cheers
Charlie
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Got an email from Southwest Air.....
Fly Nonstop between Denver, CO and
select West Coast cities for $89 one-way!
Link.... (http://www.southwest.com/hotfares/080505_den_wcoast.html)... :thumb:
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I will be in India the beginning of the week and may not attend this year. :(
Pete....
Sorry to hear that....maybe things might change.
If you happen to be near MAHARASHTRA , India....you could go hear these speakers.... (http://www.cadenceaudio.com/).
One of the Raver's owned a pair of their Avita speakers....pretty nice - I liked them. 8)
Chris
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I finally cashed in the frequent flier miles and I'm set at the Marriott again, so I'm good to go. Not long now, so see you guys on Friday the 10th at the show! Tom
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Tom,
I didn't know you're going?
I guess I'll need to make this trip then. :)
Hugh
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Well if Hugh is going I'm going for sure.... 8)
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SA,
Very funny. ;) :D
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I'm actually at a conference in Denver 2 days before RMAF, so I get a free ride to the show!
(but it definitely screws up my visit from Chris aka Lonewolf)
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Arthur,
Your just one lucky son of a gun.
Great room and oh by chance my company is sending me out 2 days before RMAF :thumb:
Any numbers come to mind for playing the lottery? :lol:
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I'm actually at a conference in Denver 2 days before RMAF, so I get a free ride to the show!
(but it definitely screws up my visit from Chris aka Lonewolf)
Oh well.... (http://media.bigoo.ws/content/gif/smiles/smiles_407.gif)
I guess Jeff and I will see you in Denver Art..... :thumb:
Chris
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I'm putting together my demo CD. Would anyone care to give me some suggestions on things to include/exclude? I'm planning on picking things that a) I'm really familiar with, b) are reasonably well-done recordings, and c) won't be excruciating for other attendees. Any other thoughts?
Regards,
John
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Don't cry Chris. I'll be there!!!
Cheers
Charlie
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ANd they want me in Denver on the 14th for a conference. I may pass cuz it pisses me off!! Week before India, week after, miss the event!
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(http://your7figureincome.com/images/jump_for_joy.jpg)
ONE
MONTH
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GO !!!
:hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
And....there will be entertainment.....Link... (http://audiofest.net/2008/entertainment.php?Sid=3d12c47ca39d1bb1bc10ab6fb4b7eb09).. :dance:
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Hey!
Boy! Chris/lonewolfny42, you sure can't wait and going hyper for the RMAF 2008 :lol:
Are you going to strike a pose next to every speakers there for photos? :lol:
Anyway, wish I have time and money to go there. :icon_lol:
Take care,
Buddy :thumb:
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Its also my vacation Buddy...and a trip to Dallas before the show. :wink:
It will be a busy week...... :beer:
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provided I can find someone to crash with, I'm there !! WOOT!
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Alphabetically, all rooms in the Marriott, subject to change without notice -
Burmester Audiosysteme of Germany will be showing the new 077 Reference preamp, the 082 integrated, and more moderately-priced models in the 'B' series loudspeaker towers, and maybe more... in room 594
dCS of UK will show one, or maybe two surprises to fit into the Scarlatti, Paganini, Puccini CD/SACD lineup in room 538
Nordost Corporation of USA will show their full line in the Humboldt Peak meeting room on the mezzanine level. Also, Boulder dealer Audio Federation will dem Odin Supreme Reference and Valhalla Reference in room 930, and Denver dealer Heirloom Audio will dem Norse series cables and power cords in room 565
Nottingham Analogue of UK will dem the Space 294 table and 12 inch Ace Space arm in the Heirloom Audio room 565
Quantum Resonant Technology of USA will dem the Qx4 power purifier also in Heirloom Audio room 565.
Enjoy the show!
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hello
just thought anyone going to the show should know about this.
http://www.beertown.org/events/gabf/
have fun.
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3 Weeks.... (http://smiley.onegreatguy.net/cheerleader.gif)
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Wife's travel plan changed and I can go! :thumb:
But I have to work Friday and can't get there until 8PM. :( I think I got the last seat on Frontier flying out of DC. :o
I read that the Bar at Marriott is the place to be Friday evening. Would I still catch you guys if I come down after 9?
I am looking forward to meeting a bunch of you in person. :wave:
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Wife's travel plan changed and I can go! :thumb:
But I have to work Friday and can't there until 8PM. :( I think I got the last seat on Frontier flying out of DC. :o
I read that the Bar at Marriott is the place to be Friday evening. Would I still catch you guys if I come down after 9?
I am looking forward to meeting a bunch of you in person. :wave:
Rim, the Bar may close at 12pm, but you'll find AC members crowding the place until 2-3am. :wink:
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Wife's travel plan changed and I can go! :thumb:
But I have to work Friday and can't there until 8PM. :( I think I got the last seat on Frontier flying out of DC. :o
I read that the Bar at Marriott is the place to be Friday evening. Would I still catch you guys if I come down after 9?
I am looking forward to meeting a bunch of you in person. :wave:
Rim, the Bar may close at 12pm, but you'll find AC members crowding the place until 2-3am. :wink:
And some may be up .....all night. :lol:
Glad you can make it Rim.... :beer:
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My plane is supposed to come in around 7. My wife will already be in Denver (for work) and we're planning to show up to the Marriott bar after she picks me up from the airport. I look forward to meeting everyone! :beer:
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From a past RMAF...in "the bar"..(PeteG's photo)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=7682)
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From a past RMAF...in "the bar"..(PeteG's photo)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=7682)
Wow... That's a pretty darned big speaker you're leanin' on there... :thumb: :lol:
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Wow... That's a pretty darned big speaker you're leanin' on there...
No....I think its a bar stool.... :jester:
Who's at that table....clockwise...starting with the waitress....
Bryan
Barry
Mike
George
Sean
Don
Glenn
Lin
Bill...with hat (behind the plant)
Tom
Jerry
Just checking my memory.... :wink:
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Pretty good memory Chris...
Checking mine now - the server's name - Minh?
Bryan
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Hey, I recognize zybar and mgalusha (I think). And of course lonewolfny42.. :thumb:
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Pretty good memory Chris...
Checking mine now - the server's name - Minh?
Bryan
The scary thing is I think you might be right :o
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I'm looking forward to seeing AC friends I met there last year, and meeting new ones. I'll be assisting TweekGeek (Mike) and Modwright (Dan) in their rooms, but I assume we'll all meet at the Marriott bar on Fri night again? 8pm? Earlier? :)
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Pretty good memory Chris...
Checking mine now - the server's name - Minh?
Bryan
The scary thing is I think you might be right :o
That sounds right to me. And just how is it that Tom is sitting next to Jerry??? :lol:
We should tell the Marriott to set up some extra tables and chairs as space is very much at a premium though they should know better by now.
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I'll be assisting TweekGeek (Mike) and Modwright (Dan) in their rooms, but I assume we'll all meet at the Marriott bar on Fri night again? 8pm? Earlier? :)
Ted,
The show closes at 6:00PM on Friday and folks seem to start drifting in about then, sometimes earlier.
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Wanted to go to this based on all the good vibe. I wanted to man a booth. Made special DIY kits at a lower price for attendees to take home. Knew I would recognize a bunch of you from pictures. Alas, the hurricane has put me behind the 8 ball and I've had to cancel. I live on the outskirts of Houston. Oh well, wish you a ton of fun! All the best. Next year, then.
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My wife, Vera, and I are looking forward to RMAF and to meeting everyone. I suspect Vera will be interested to learn if any of the other wives will be interested in shopping or other activities in Denver.
Time is drawing near! :thumb: :hyper: :banana piano:
Ken
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Two years ago I went for the first time, and had a good time seeing the demos and learning a lot about the hobby. But I didn't know anybody, so I hung out in the room. Finally bumped into one friend on Sunday.
During the year that followed I met so many virtual friends on AC that when I went to the bar on Friday night of last year's show I knew lots of people, who introduced me to many more. Getting to know audiophiles in person from all over the country has made a huge difference in my enjoyment of the hobby. So, like Ted, I'm looking forward to meeting new friends (like Ted ;) ) and catching up with those I met last year.
The exhibitor list seems bigger and better than ever.
Rich
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Man, I am sooooo bummed out that I won't be there this year.
Have a great time guys and I'll see you in 2009.
George
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This is my first one also. I read AC almost daily and enjoy it immensely. I look forward to hearing lots of gear, since what I've heard is limited and I'm still a beginner in this hobby. Can't wait to meet some of you seasoned veterans of HIFI, hope to learn a lot. Of course I owe the lonewolfe a few beers.
Anyone up for a Mtn or Road bike ride Thursday afternoon? My flight should be in Denver around 1pm and we would have several hrs to ride.
Rob S.
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Rob,
My brother Russ lives in Denver and is an avid mountain and distance rider. Though he probably wouldn't be able to get away from work, I'm sure he'd be more than happy to suggest some routes for you if you don't hear back from any locals! PM me your e-mail and I'll hook the two of you up.
Gordy
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Some helpful hints...to get the most from the show... :wink:
There's going to be a lot of rooms to see - even more this year...so plan ahead. Figure out what you want to see early...and go there first. Look this over....
http://audiofest.net/2008/exhibitor_listing.php?ex=ALL&Sid=0ae835e97fc53c9b95c514207927c98b
Note the room numbers...and location. This is my 4th. time going...and the past three, I never saw it all....and I tried... :?
This year I've listed 45 rooms to visit....I hope. :wink:
Compare notes with your fellow AC members...whats sounding good....or interesting.
Then check it out..... :wink:
The elevators can get a little slow....at the end of the halls there are stairs...use them to go up or down for a floor or two...its faster.
Music...bring some....tunes you know...to compare systems. Now...sometimes....cdr's don't work well...bring the real thing. :wink:
Have fun and enjoy the show...it really is a good one...and its great to meet other AC members...thats the best part. See you there.... :beer:
Chris
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Rob,
If you are up for a mt ride I'd be in. I'd suggest Brainard Lake as the place to go for great trails and a backcountry experience... You need to be a solid intermediate rider who enjoys technical challenges though... this is the case for a lot of CO riding.
PM me if you want, so we don't derail the thread.
Here's a few pics from the last day of summer... 9-20-08
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/davec113/SSV%209-20-08/SSV_9-20-08024.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/davec113/SSV%209-20-08/SSV_9-20-08001.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/davec113/SSV%209-20-08/SSV_9-20-08011.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/davec113/SSV%209-20-08/SSV_9-20-08017.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/davec113/SSV%209-20-08/SSV_9-20-08018.jpg)
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/davec113/SSV%209-20-08/SSV_9-20-08026.jpg)
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My wife, Vera, and I are looking forward to RMAF and to meeting everyone. I suspect Vera will be interested to learn if any of the other wives will be interested in shopping or other activities in Denver.
Time is drawing near! :thumb: :hyper: :banana piano:
Ken
Perhaps Nicole, my wife, could give some insight to where the shopping hot-spots are located since she takes business trips to Denver enough to know how to find them. On the other hand, splitting up for shopping and audio-fest attending risks some sort of spending frenzy. I'm thinking we'll stick together for as much she can stand it, I'm hoping she'll have more fun at RMAF than she's bargaining for.
And, lonewolfny42, I know wise counsel when I hear it.
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TWO WEEKS...(http://arnaud.rousset3.free.fr/images/beer-smiley.gif)
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See you at the bar! :beer:
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If you are up for a mt ride I'd be in. I'd suggest Brainard Lake as the place to go for great trails and a backcountry experience... You need to be a solid intermediate rider who enjoys technical challenges though... this is the case for a lot of CO riding.
PM me if you want, so we don't derail the thread.
Here's a few pics from the last day of summer... 9-20-08
(http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l318/davec113/SSV%209-20-08/SSV_9-20-08024.jpg)
See, you're killing me now... I was supposed to hike to Brainard Lake tomorrow, but with another hike planned for Sunday, I can't afford to be non-productive both days this weekend.
That said, the hike up to King Lake was really nice last weekend, as the Aspens were turning above 10,000 ft. I didn't get a chance to hang out long at the top or climb the last ridge, however, as the thunderstorm that showed up had other ideas. (CO is almost always the leading state for lightening deaths every year... when a storm heads your way, you'd best leave immediately, if not sooner.)
Sorry, but I'm not the best resource to suggest any trails - I've been biking the trails around my house before work for exercise, but my weekend trips have all been hiking-related this summer, so I haven't spent a great deal of time finding fun trails. (And frankly, I start to feel the altitude pretty quickly when hiking above 11,000 ft - much less biking!)
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See you at the bar! :beer:
Oh Yes - See ya in the bar :beer:
Ken
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And....finally......
Just ONE WEEK to go....... :hyper:
If you guys get a chance....
Check out the KR Audio room at the Hyatt (Second Floor ~ Grand Mesa C)
They make some fine tube amps...and are not well know here. :wink:
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Sitting here in Pune India and jealous I cannot attend this year. And mad at my boss for pleading with me to go on this boondoggle especially that he canceled his attendance last week! I'm facilitating a battery module concept design session for med and heavy duty hybrid truck applications.
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Sitting here in Pune India and jealous I cannot attend this year. And mad at my boss for pleading with me to go on this boondoggle especially that he canceled his attendance last week! I'm facilitating a battery module concept design session for med and heavy duty hybrid truck applications.
Pune, India......India's "Motor City".... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pune#Automotive)... :thumb:
Sorry you can't make it Pete....
anything you really wanted to check out at the show ???
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Oh yeah, RMAF TV ad - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQX6tbx-nFM
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Just checked the weather forecast for the weekend and they are saying rain and possibly snow showers by Sunday. If you are going to be walking between hotels be sure to bring a jacket as they are showing a high of 47* F for Sunday and dropping below freezing on Saturday.
Oct 9 Thursday
More sun than clouds. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the low 40s.
Oct 10 Friday
Occasional showers possible. Highs in the mid 60s and lows in the mid 30s.
Oct 11 Saturday
Showers possible. Highs in the low 50s and lows in the upper 20s.
Oct 12 Sunday
Mix of rain and snow showers. Highs in the upper 40s and lows in the mid 30s.
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Thanks Mike. I was just wondering what the weather was going to be like. Sounds like a great weekend to be inside at an audio show!
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Mike:
Not gonna rain or snow on my parade!!!!!! aa
Cheers
Charlie
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Not gonna rain or snow on my parade!!!!!! aa
:lol:
I surprised on one has commented on the TV spot for the show.
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Here's hoping all AC'ers listen to Mike's modded DCX2496 at the Bolder Cable room. Truly an outstanding piece of work.
B Cheney
Pres, VMPS Ribbon
www.vmpsaudio.com
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I'm surprised on one has commented on the TV spot for the show.
Well....Mr. Golden Ear was correct....."more BASS"... :wink: :lol:
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Yes, more bass please. :D
What is sad is my typing appears to have outpaced my brain when I posted that. Missing letters, some reversed. :nono:
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Oh yeah, RMAF TV ad - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQX6tbx-nFM
At the end of that advertisement, there were loudspeakers I didn't recognize. Very nice looking stands. Are palm frond fans optional? Does anybody know which room will have these particular speakers? Thanks.
See you there!
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ONE DAY TO GO !!!! :beer:
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Not sure if that add would bring in people other that audiophiles. Horns, turntables and tubes!
Hope to see folks soon. :)
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HEy Charlie!
You going?
I wish I was.
Mike
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What is the best way to get to Marriott from DEN airport without a car? Is there a regular shuttle? Train? Taxi?
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What is the best way to get to Marriott from DEN airport without a car? Is there a regular shuttle? Train? Taxi?
I'm taking the SuperShuttle again (shared van service). You can make reservations on line.
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I believe that the shuttle ends around 10:00 PM, maybe earlier. I know the last couple years when I get in around 10:30 it is done running. However, there are usually independent vans that run for the same price.
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In Marriott Tower 9002/3, Feastrex and The Lotus Group are exhibiting some 9-inch and 5-inch field coil drivers that are simply awesome (motors have 100% Permendur yokes, pole pieces & top plates) and I would love to get some feedback on them:
(http://shinshu.fm/MHz/06.94/images/qkaEKFEn.jpg)
I hear they also have some very nice prototype 811A SE amplifiers:
(http://shinshu.fm/MHz/06.94/images/CnTupMo6.jpg)
and enclosures that are gorgeously finished in Japanese urushi lacquer:
(http://shinshu.fm/MHz/06.94/images/vit9z9Fm.jpg)
Since I'm a Feastrex junkie, I hope someone will report back on these items!
Thanks,
-- Chris
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Dang, I was going to drive down from Wyoming this morning since Sunday, esp. early, is the best time to visit RMAF, but woke to snow and icy roads. I-25 is no fun under those conditions esp. if you add in a little wind. I wanted to meet Vinnie and tell him in person how much I am enjoying the 30.2 power amp.
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Hey, has anyone stopped by the Bamberg (BESL) room to hear the new series 5's? I listned to an earlier incarnation, which sounded awesome, and I'm hoping to get some feedback from the people who were lucky enough to attend the show. There is a very good chance these are going to be my next speakers and I'd love to get some comments from the AC folks (Lonewolf, etc.) who will have a chance to hear them live. I'm not looking for happy-talk, just the unbiased and unfiltered views I've come to expect from most of the people on this site.
Plus, Phil is a good guy and he is a great person to get together with and talk music and audio. I look forward to comments on Phil's room and to reading show reviews (which rooms had best sound, which new products were most exciting, etc.).
Cheers!
Jack
(http://pic5.audiogon.com/i/c/f/1220989532.jpg)
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I stopped in Phil's room and listened to the Series 5's he had set up there. I did not get a chance to speak directly with Phil as another industry representative was there giving Phil feedback on his room setup. The industry rep and Phil were discussing the apparent forwardness of the high end with the +2 db switch on the Series 5's engaged. The industry rep speaking to Phil was advising him that he should aim the Series 5's out a littler wider to lower the "forwardness" of the treble. Phil then advised him about the +2 db switch, they turned it off and we relistened to the same music - some jazz rendition of "I've Been Working on the Railroad". Phil admitted to the rep that he preferred his treble to be a "little forward", and that he had been switching the +2db switch in and out depending on the piece playing.
I thought the Series 5's sounded very good. Nice soundstage, crystal clarity in mid base. I am no audiophile, but I did agree with the industry rep that the Series 5's sounded better with the +2 db treble swith NOT engaged. Phil was really cordial, some guy in Phil's room giving him "critical" input on his setup and sound - Phil graciously listened and attempted to address the industry reps concerns / input. Anyway, the speakers sounded very good to my ears - FWIW.
Trey
Hey, has anyone stopped by the Bamberg (BESL) room to hear the new series 5's? I listned to an earlier incarnation, which sounded awesome, and I'm hoping to get some feedback from the people who were lucky enough to attend the show. There is a very good chance these are going to be my next speakers and I'd love to get some comments from the AC folks (Lonewolf, etc.) who will have a chance to hear them live. I'm not looking for happy-talk, just the unbiased and unfiltered views I've come to expect from most of the people on this site.
Plus, Phil is a good guy and he is a great person to get together with and talk music and audio. I look forward to comments on Phil's room and to reading show reviews (which rooms had best sound, which new products were most exciting, etc.).
Cheers!
Jack
(http://pic5.audiogon.com/i/c/f/1220989532.jpg)
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Thanks Trey. I'm not surprised by your description of Phil. The cool thing about the Series 5's is the flexibility to make the kind of changes you mention in your post. I like the idea of having speakers that allow you to make minor adjustments to suite specific recordings. Not sure who the industry guy was but I don't think he can help Phil with room setup. Phil is very good at setting up a room and I'm hoping to hear more comments on the BESL room. Thanks for your post!
J
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Thanks Trey. I'm not surprised by your description of Phil. The cool thing about the Series 5's is the flexibility to make the kind of changes you mention in your post. I like the idea of having speakers that allow you to make minor adjustments to suite specific recordings. Not sure who the industry guy was but I don't think he can help Phil with room setup. Phil is very good at setting up a room and I'm hoping to hear more comments on the BESL room. Thanks for your post!
J
I see 1 tube amplifier in RMAF-2008:
New brand name: Musical Interpretations
(Marriott 5th Floor ~ 586)
some photo inside of 2A3PP amplifier
Feeling
sorry, i can not post picture! help me!
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I see 1 tube amplifier in RMAF-2008:
New brand name: Musical Interpretations
(Marriott 5th Floor ~ 586)
some photo inside of 2A3PP amplifier
Feeling
sorry, i can not post picture! help me!
Feeling, Here's a thread on posting pics, be sure to read down to Papajin's post... http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=40968.0
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Thank you.... :thumb:
Al and Marjorie....Red Rock Audio....and the Colorado Audio Society for hosting this years RMAF....a very enjoyable show. :beer:
And.....some date's to mark on your calender..... :wink:
->> RMAF 2009 <<-
Oct. 2 - 4, 2009
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has anyone heard RAAL omni ribbons?
also BD-design room with oris swing mk2?
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I stopped in Phil's room and listened to the Series 5's he had set up there. I did not get a chance to speak directly with Phil as another industry representative was there giving Phil feedback on his room setup. The industry rep and Phil were discussing the apparent forwardness of the high end with the +2 db switch on the Series 5's engaged. The industry rep speaking to Phil was advising him that he should aim the Series 5's out a littler wider to lower the "forwardness" of the treble. Phil then advised him about the +2 db switch, they turned it off and we relistened to the same music - some jazz rendition of "I've Been Working on the Railroad". Phil admitted to the rep that he preferred his treble to be a "little forward", and that he had been switching the +2db switch in and out depending on the piece playing.
I thought the Series 5's sounded very good. Nice soundstage, crystal clarity in mid base. I am no audiophile, but I did agree with the industry rep that the Series 5's sounded better with the +2 db treble swith NOT engaged. Phil was really cordial, some guy in Phil's room giving him "critical" input on his setup and sound - Phil graciously listened and attempted to address the industry reps concerns / input. Anyway, the speakers sounded very good to my ears - FWIW.
Trey
I don't know which position the switch was in when I was there, but forward, bright, and fatiguing is how I would describe the sound.
If Phil likes 'em forward, maybe he should provide a -2dB switch. :dunno:
Lin :)
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hey
sitting in the airport thinking about some of the rooms and the one i liked was the Sonics room. the old designer from Audio Physics, very nice
also the bamberg room sounded good i thought but i think it was the new amps that might of sounded a little forward. Emotiva amps and preamp(xpa2 and rs1). maybe not the best match. av123 with dodd stuff sounded a little muddy on the bottom end to me. i will think some more and post later
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has anyone heard RAAL omni ribbons?
also BD-design room with oris swing mk2?
I listened to the RAAL speakers. The first time I went by to listen I was met at the door and told to come back later - seems they had the usual room boom problems and were working on sorting it out. When I returned, I was really impressed. Those are the COOLEST looking things. As speakers they sounded really cool too.
I liked them and I'm sure that with a proper room and careful set up they would sound world class. As it was they sounded great but their imaging was a little confused.
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Hey, has anyone stopped by the Bamberg (BESL) room to hear the new series 5's? I listned to an earlier incarnation, which sounded awesome, and I'm hoping to get some feedback from the people who were lucky enough to attend the show. There is a very good chance these are going to be my next speakers and I'd love to get some comments from the AC folks (Lonewolf, etc.) who will have a chance to hear them live. I'm not looking for happy-talk, just the unbiased and unfiltered views I've come to expect from most of the people on this site.
Plus, Phil is a good guy and he is a great person to get together with and talk music and audio. I look forward to comments on Phil's room and to reading show reviews (which rooms had best sound, which new products were most exciting, etc.).
Cheers!
Jack
(http://pic5.audiogon.com/i/c/f/1220989532.jpg)
I listened to these speakers. I loved their bass - super tight and clean. The upper end was a bit forward for my taste but I figured that could be sorted out with positioning and component choice. They didn't screech or anything like that, they were just super clean and lean. I don't remember there being any mid bloom at all so vocals lacked the meat I prefer.
I would like to hear them in a real room.
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Hey, has anyone stopped by the Bamberg (BESL) room to hear the new series 5's? I listned to an earlier incarnation, which sounded awesome, and I'm hoping to get some feedback from the people who were lucky enough to attend the show. There is a very good chance these are going to be my next speakers and I'd love to get some comments from the AC folks (Lonewolf, etc.) who will have a chance to hear them live. I'm not looking for happy-talk, just the unbiased and unfiltered views I've come to expect from most of the people on this site.
Plus, Phil is a good guy and he is a great person to get together with and talk music and audio. I look forward to comments on Phil's room and to reading show reviews (which rooms had best sound, which new products were most exciting, etc.).
Cheers!
Jack
(http://pic5.audiogon.com/i/c/f/1220989532.jpg)
I listened to these speakers. I loved their bass - super tight and clean. The upper end was a bit forward for my taste but I figured that could be sorted out with positioning and component choice. They didn't screech or anything like that, they were just super clean and lean. I don't remember there being any mid bloom at all so vocals lacked the meat I prefer.
I would like to hear them in a real room.
My impression was that the treble, bass, and midrange all fit together seamlessly which is a very good thing. I agree these were super-clean sounding, and personally I think a forward-sounding speaker has to sound clean and fast otherwise it will be fatiguing.
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Stereophile's blog entry on RMAF:
http://blog.stereophile.com/rmaf2008/
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Allow me to explain, and I hope my response doesn't get immediately ushered off to the industry section.
To my ears, a speaker that I design to measure flat also sounds "live", which is a bit forward to some audiophiles. To run a system this way, the treble signal must be very clean all the way to the speaker posts. And the room must be well behaved also. This is what I have in my reference setup at home.
Now everyone's preference (and room) varies. Especially in the bass. Or the treble. Because it's all relative to the midrange, right? I heard lots of different songs played over three days, and as is expected the recording quality varied from harsh to pristine. So I found the treble contour switch indispensible.
This is why the Series 5 TMW speaker system has a 3-way treble contour switch, and two bass contour switches. The treble contours are
-2dB across the entire treble band (>2kHz),
0dB (my preference), and
+Top Octave lift (extra sparkle only above 10kHz, also a favorite of mine).
By Saturday afternoon we skipped the use of line filters for the power amps, which increased the speed of snare drum, and we switched the bass to the 20Hz switch setting to lift 30Hz. (All rooms had an 80Hz floor/ceiling mode. We can’t reduce 80Hz, but we can lift the range below it.) This helped make the bass more even and full all the way up through the midrange.
But I kept changing the treble switch depending on how "hot" I thought each recording sounded. Classical would typically be -2dB, since that makes a slightly more distant presentation, i.e. as though the venue was larger. Some recordings were a little dull, so then I would flip the switch to 0. Some recordings had really great upper end extension on cymbals, so I would flip the switch to the +top octave position to bring it all out. Some recordings were hot or harsh, so I would flip the switch down.
The switch does not have to be changed on a per-song basis. It can compensate for an overly live room, or for system matching, or user preference. The point is that conditions and listeners vary so much, that it is important to have something to help out.
As for the speaker spacing and toe-in – I used a Cardas setup, but with wider spacing. All center seats in the 3 rows exhibited really solid center imaging and focus, and it didn’t matter if there were three listeners in a column! The front center seat was truly holographic and especially addicting to me, as the speakers not just disappeared but the sound stage and bloom occupied the entire front end of the room. We saw listeners sit down there, and then immediately look to their left, and then to their right as they visualized the performance!
Moving the speakers closer together and using less toe-in (as suggested by the rep) would not likely make as much difference as the treble switch. For one, toe-in really only affects sound >10kHz, while the switch is evenly effective above 2kHz. And moving the speakers apart would make them less visible and the front seat sound stage less holographic.
Anyway, Steve Fay and I had a blast at the show, and really had fun playing so many kinds of music and meeting so many nice audiophiles.
Philip Bamberg
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http://www.audiofederation.com/hifiing/2008/RMAF2008/report/ (http://www.audiofederation.com/hifiing/2008/RMAF2008/report/)
Coverage and huge pics!
Mike
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Wow those Ref 3As are perty!
Holy Jesus! Those Von Scweichees are huuuge, wouldnt want to drop one of those on my toes!
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You are invited to check out the RMAF 2008 show report at Stereomojo.com.