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Title: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: frankiePixel on 4 Dec 2017, 04:24 pm
Happy Monday morning, y'all! I'm hoping for input from all you experts as I am looking to get some solid speakers for myself but am not sure where to start. I had a good long talk with someone who knows what he's talking about, and he suggested I post here. I listen to a lot of music (used to be mostly CDs, then mostly mp3s, and now like so many, mostly streaming) but I want to invest in my speakers to make the experience better.

What do you suggest I get? For simplicity's sake, I think active speakers would be best for me. I live in a one bedroom apartment. I would think I'd likely try to spend $300, $400, $500. Should I spend more?? Less? What do you guys think? I am in your hands.

Thank you all!
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: FullRangeMan on 4 Dec 2017, 05:36 pm
Welcome aboard Frank :thumb:
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: Wind Chaser on 4 Dec 2017, 05:44 pm
Well, if you want to go active, these will fit into your budget...

http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=154206.msg1648630#new (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=154206.msg1648630#new)

What will you use for a source?
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: Phil A on 4 Dec 2017, 06:03 pm
Welcome!
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: Phil A on 4 Dec 2017, 06:07 pm
Emotiva Audio has active speakers too - https://emotiva.com/product-category/airmotiv/  and there are other companies who make some nice speakers as well (e.g. https://www.chanemusiccinema.com/multimedia)
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: Tyson on 4 Dec 2017, 06:27 pm
Welcome Frank! 

After 25 years in this audio game, I'd recommend the ELAC speakers.  They just crush everything else out there in their price range, from a pure sound quality standpoint.  Here's their active bookshelf speaker the UB5:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41hMjVPZnoL._SL500_AC_SS350_.jpg)


IME, it's easy to get detailed and clear speakers in this price range.  What's VERY hard is to also have smooth and full/musical sound too.  And it's in the 'enjoyable and musical' area that the ELACS pull away from pretty much everything else under $1k.
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: frankiePixel on 4 Dec 2017, 07:01 pm
Thank you all for the welcome and the recommendations. Someone else mentioned the JBL LSR305 speakers as well.

Is there anywhere in particular you'd recommend buying them? I found this link for the JBLs ($217):

https://www.amazon.com/JBL-LSR305-Professional-Studio-Monitor/dp/B00F1DEI8G

And this for the ELAC UB5s ($362):

https://www.amazon.com/ELAC-Uni-fi-Bookshelf-Speaker-Black/dp/B01CRYWVG2

Since 2004 I've been listening on a Panasonic PM39D (link below) and a few years ago I also added in a BOSE SoundLink Mini.

https://www.amazon.com/panasonic-scpm39d-5disc-progressivescan-dvd-home-theater-system/dp/B0002472FK

Follow up questions...

-- Would the JBL and ELAC recommendations be a worthwhile upgrade over what I currently have?

-- Should I maybe spend more ($600, $800, more?) to really get something great?

I pretty much listen from my computer or phone these days.

Thank you!
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: Tyson on 4 Dec 2017, 07:17 pm
Follow up questions...

-- Would the JBL and ELAC recommendations be a worthwhile upgrade over what I currently have?

-- Should I maybe spend more ($600, $800, more?) to really get something great?

I pretty much listen from my computer or phone these days.

Thank you!

Yes, both the ELAC and JBLs would be an upgrade over what you have.

How far away do you sit from the speakers?  If it's near field, the ELACs are the way to go, if it's farfield, it's more of a wash.  The JBLs are great little speakers but they are more lively sounding than the ELACs.  Which is great, I like lively sounding speakers.  But the tradeoff is that the JBLs are less forgiving of average sources and average (or bad) recordings.  So the ELACs are less impressive sounding on first listen, but they make a larger variety of music fun to listen to, and you won't be wanting to turn it off or down after an hour or 2. 

If you want to spend more, I think you start looking larger speakers.  The ELAC F6 is a great floor standing speaker, but now you'll also need to spend money on an amp to drive them (as is true of most floorstanding audiophile speakers).  Or you could look for some used speakers - most audiophiles tend to treat their speakers pretty well, so it's easy to get a good deal on well-kept speakers.  Or you could do a kit - GR Research here on AC is one of the better options for that. 
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: JakeJ on 5 Dec 2017, 01:10 pm
Hello and welcome to AC, frankiePixel.  Enjoy the journey.
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: rockadanny on 5 Dec 2017, 02:11 pm
Welcome frankie.  :thumb:

To keep things simple I'd go with an active pair such as Adam F7, although slightly above your budget at $350 each, but free shipping at A'zon:

https://www.amazon.com/Adam-Audio-F7-Powered-Monitor/dp/B00B6RJA70/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1512482658&sr=8-1&keywords=adam+f7 (https://www.amazon.com/Adam-Audio-F7-Powered-Monitor/dp/B00B6RJA70/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1512482658&sr=8-1&keywords=adam+f7)

I have a pair of these in my office (connected direct to my laptop or phone via headphone jack) and preferred them over the JBLs (truer, cleaner, less colored sound/tone, and more refined). Plus, being front ported you can position them closer to a wall than rear ported speakers if necessary.

Whatever you get, enjoy your music!
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: ArthurDent on 5 Dec 2017, 05:28 pm
Greetings & Welcome to AC frankie  :thumb:
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: frankiePixel on 5 Dec 2017, 11:29 pm
thanks for the additional replies!

rockadanny, the Adam F7s look like another good option. more money but worth it? i don't want to automatically assume higher cost means higher quality

Tyson, thanks for the advice. I mostly listen in the main room of my one bedroom apartment. the speakers would only be about 10 feet from me most of the time
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: JakeJ on 6 Dec 2017, 02:04 am
Seek out reviews on the speakers you like.  Pro and forum alike.  Then try find them locally and hear them.  Try to find vendors that allow home auditions (I know, tall order) and 15, 30, ? days to return for full purchase price.
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: JLM on 6 Dec 2017, 12:12 pm
Welcome.

Speakers (and the room) are the best place to start system building so you're off to a good start in my book at least.  And there's never been a better time buy a good quality audio system (active speakers and inexpensive DAC's being on the top of the list).

I've had the JBL LSR305's here for an extended audition and they do little wrong (in my opinion the Emotivas can be 'mechanical' vs. 'musical' sounding).  Just can't beat them for the price ($100 each currently in many places).  To me, 8 inch woofers are overwhelming if placed too close.  They work fine in a medium sized room or desktop.  But being from the professional side they lack some of the flexibility/features you might appreciate.  You can spend more to find more refinement, but to make a significant improvement would take you beyond your stated budget.  Speaking of which, cheaper professional monitors (not the JBL's) can sound dry/fatiguing versus home speakers (which you specifically asked about) that are designed to be 'entertaining' (insert favorite attributes like warm, laid back, colored, etc.).  Note that many audiophiles will deny these characterizations.

Another option along these lines that I like are the $500/pair Vanatoo Transparent One speakers (I prefer them over the AudioEngines).  Realize that nearly all professional monitors, like the JBL's are 'active' meaning that one channel of amplification is provided directly to each driver and the signal from the source hits the crossover before the amps.  The advantages of this approach are not subtle.  On the other hand the Vanatoo's are 'powered' meaning that the signal from the source hits the left/right channel amps before the crossover (schematically like a 'conventional' passive speaker, but the manufacturer has matched the amp to the speaker and saved you a separate cabinet).  The Vanatoo offers more flexibility than the JBL:  digital inputs (USB, coax, optical); analog input; subwoofer output; only requires input/output/power cabling to a single speaker (except for the speaker cable to the passive cabinet).  Here's a review link: 

https://www.audiostream.com/content/vanatoo-transparent-one-powered-speakers

The ELAC UB-5's are good, but when you add the cost of a stereo amp (they're passive, not active as per Tyson above), the total cost pushes you well beyond your budget.  I'm an old fart so feel that most small passive monitors, like the ELAC B6, sound thin and bass is so tight as to be constipated.  On the other hand my old Ascend Acoustics CBM-170's (available at around $300/pair) present a more balanced and musical sound with fantastic imaging.

Happy hunting.
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: rockadanny on 6 Dec 2017, 02:00 pm
Quote
Adam F7s look like another good option. more money but worth it?

To my ears/brain, yes. Everyone has different ears, brain, setup, room, application/purpose, and preferences when it comes to deciding what sounds best. And I agree that higher cost does not necessarily mean better sound, in general, because it is your ears/brain deciding what sounds good to you as per your subjective preferences. Many people swear by those JBLs. When I auditioned them at Guitar World, to me they sounded like music honking from plastic boxes, while the Adams sounded more like real music.

However, I did end up with both the Adams and the JBLs!  :)  I listen to the Adams when I wish to sit alone and enjoy music for an extended period of time. I find their sound captivating and highly satisfying. The JBLs are in the eat-in area adjacent to the kitchen, living room, and outdoor porch to enjoy in the background when I am doing other activities: cooking, entertaining, cleaning, reading, etc.

(Edit: Back when I got these speakers the Adams were even more expensive than they are now and I could not afford two pairs. I thought the JBLs were a good value and played well enough for my application. I am happy with both.)

Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: frankiePixel on 6 Dec 2017, 04:57 pm
Great answers, everybody! I really appreciate it. There is so much nuance to all of this and so much to dig into. It's a little overwhelming so I think I am going to go on a three day digital detox coastal spiritual retreat to come up with an answer.
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: JakeJ on 7 Dec 2017, 01:53 am
May you find peace, fellow audiophile.  Please repeat after me...Om...Om...Om! (ad infinitum, ad nauseum)
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: woodsyi on 7 Dec 2017, 02:44 pm
If you can handle the color, how about Dynaudio XEO 2 (https://www.amazon.com/Dynaudio-Wireless-Bookshelf-Speakers-Limited/dp/B06XKW8C6R/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1512656291&sr=8-3&keywords=dynaudio+xeo+2)?  You don't see much blue with the grill on.  You are getting a $400 discount because of the color...

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61IeLKtmCcL._SL1200_.jpg)


TAS gave them a good review (http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/dynaudio-xeo-2-wireless-loudspeaker/) and they are listed as a $1500 pair in the review.
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: charmerci on 7 Dec 2017, 07:01 pm
. Many people swear by those JBLs. When I auditioned them at Guitar World, to me they sounded like music honking from plastic boxes, while the Adams sounded more like real music.

However, I did end up with both the Adams and the JBLs!  :)   

Well, that scares me about the JBL's which I'm considering. How do they sound in a good environment?
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: WGH on 8 Dec 2017, 02:11 am
How about GR Research? http://gr-research.com/ (http://gr-research.com/)
I think we can all agree that Danny knows his stuff, his speakers are an excellent value and would sound good in any environment.
The N1 is just one example: http://gr-research.com/n1.aspx (http://gr-research.com/n1.aspx)
The kits can be combined with cabinets from Parts Express for a complete DIY package.

Either a NAD C 316BEE integrated or the Monoprice 50 Watt Stereo Hybrid Tube Amplifier with Bluetooth for $149 would round out the system and sound much better than the Panasonic.
https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=109&cp_id=10919&cs_id=1091903&p_id=16153&seq=1&format=2 (https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=109&cp_id=10919&cs_id=1091903&p_id=16153&seq=1&format=2)

(https://images.monoprice.com/productlargeimages/161531.jpg)
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: JLM on 8 Dec 2017, 12:09 pm
Well, that scares me about the JBL's which I'm considering. How do they sound in a good environment?

Had them here (Cardas Golden Cuboid shaped, medium sized room with six GIK 244 panels at first reflection points and front corners, no windows) for a week (in my mind a near ideal room).  Also heard them in a brighter medium sized room (wooden floors in front of very large picture window).  They do no wrong, unless you're after audiophile levels of 'entertainment' (exaggerations, colorations, etc.). 

Not the final answer for deep bass (but does remarkably good for price/size), lacks absolute levels of detail (but image well enough to add what I term 'natural' detail), voiced to provide a frequency balanced presentation (bass is full/not constipated like so many passive monitors, not 'thin'/lacking mid-bass, highs not over emphasized).
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: maty on 8 Dec 2017, 12:31 pm
If you source is a computer and you do not have an amplifier, active monitors. Better with front bass-reflex if you can not get them away from the walls. With cheap monitors, better the tweeter without class-D amp.

https://www.sweetwater.com/c405--Active_Monitors/reviews

Select: Customer Rating.

Maybe the ugly but front bass-reflex and two class AB amps by monitor. There are a Limited Edition: white + black.

Focal Alpha 50  $299 x2

=> https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Alpha50
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: charmerci on 9 Dec 2017, 01:20 am
JLM - I've read your praise of these and is one reason I'm seriously considering them, however, I'm interested in Danny's take since he didn't at first care for them.

I just want to be fairly certain that they won't irritate me before committing. Yes, I know ultimately I won't know until I listen to them myself.

Maty, I'm on a budget - 600 is way too much for me to consider.
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: maty on 9 Dec 2017, 08:22 am
If you listen only "modern" commercial music you do not need to spend much money. Besides, you run the risk that these badly recorded music sounds bad in good boxes.

JBL LSR305 have other problem: you can hear hiss from tweeter in nearfield (worse with the big LSR308). To listen commercial music in midfield OK. But do not try to enjoy them if it sounds well recorded music with acoustic instruments.

Electronic music OK. Jazz, vocals, classical...  :nono:

With these Focal, on top of an insulator that separates them from the table (and if you raise them a little better still, that the bass-reflex is down), you have boxes for many years, regardless of the style of music.

But remember: better equipment (speakers, dac...) =>  more unbearable the current bad recordings are.

https://www.thomann.de/gb/active_nearfield_monitors.html?oa=rat

PS: most of those who review do not listen to jazz or ...
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: maty on 9 Dec 2017, 08:32 am
You can go with this old Genelec clone made by Behringer and that they have a quality of construction above the average of said brand so criticized in the pro world but these 2030 / 2031 (Active or Passive) are OK.

6.75" woofer, maybe too BIG speakers for your table and room.

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/B2030A $150 x2

In the future you can improve them inside with little money. Google.

http://noaudiophile.com/Behringer_Truth_B2031A/
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: maty on 9 Dec 2017, 09:10 am
I listen to a lot of music (used to be mostly CDs, then mostly mp3s, and now like so many, mostly streaming) but I want to invest in my speakers to make the experience better.

Alesis active monitors

https://www.sweetwater.com/c405--Active_Monitors?params=eyJmYWNldCI6eyJCcmFuZCI6WyJBbGVzaXMiXX19


Alesis M1 Active MK3

https://www.amazon.com/Alesis-M1-ACTIVE-MK3-Premium/dp/B01J66C15K

https://ask.audio/articles/review-alesis-m1-active-mk3


Alesis Elevate 5 MKII

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Alesis-Elevate-MKII-Speakers-Video-Editing/product-reviews/B01MUY2470/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_viewopt_srt?ie=UTF8&reviewerType=all_reviews&sortBy=recent&pageNumber=1

https://www.amazon.com/Alesis-ELEVATE-MKII-Speakers-Video-Editing/dp/B01MUY2470

https://www.thomann.de/gb/alesis_elevate_5_mkii.htm
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: maty on 9 Dec 2017, 09:18 am
7 Mistakes To Avoid When Setting Up Studio Monitors

https://ask.audio/articles/7-mistakes-to-avoid-when-setting-up-studio-monitors
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: maty on 9 Dec 2017, 09:57 am
For these or other active monitors to get the best sound you need something like this:

(https://www.scan.co.uk/images/products/2698145-a.jpg)

You can try first with some books below the monitors. And so you estimate the optimal height of the supports

[IMG] http://maty.galeon.com/WP-imagenes/hum/AV-Marantz-SR4500-ifi-iCAN-KEF-Q100-ATL-Hi-Fi-DC-Ripple-Blocker-x4-ME.jpg

I bought some second hand stands and cut them to the required height. I filled them with sand and something like polyurethane putty/sealant to eliminate vibrations and improve the insulation.

Better star quad (geometry) cables to attenuate the RF/EMI interferences. XLR/jack <---> RCA or XLR/jack <--> minijack.

PS: all my hard (first and second system) were cheap tweaked by me and the sound is much better than the original.

PS2: polyurethane putty/sealant -> sticks very hard all kinds of material and ... add mass and elasticity what is necessary to cushion.
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: JLM on 9 Dec 2017, 11:31 am
To give perspective my main audio system is in the $5000 ballpark, in a near ideal listening environment, and I listen near-field (5 - 6 feet away) to ripped Redbook.  That's how I listened to them (on cheap freestanding stands).  My Dynaudio BM5 MkIII's came with Isostands that I've never taken out of their boxes as I've never setup them up on a desktop.

About the same time as a frugalphile friend bought the JBL LSR305's (1.5 years ago for $200/pair in red) I also scored Dynaudio BM5 MkIII's (on close out for $850/pair).  They were very comparable in size, F3, even sound quality wasn't very far off.  I still own the Dyns and use them for an occasional change of pace.  Frankly if not for audio nervosa I should have sent the Dyns back and bought his 305s (I liked the red).  Now don't get me wrong, the BM5 MkIII's are good speakers, in fact a step up (sans the wood veneer) from the $2000/pair Dynaudio Excite 14A that audiostream.com ranks as their favorite speaker.  Which makes the 305's a killer deal, but at the end of the day the 305's didn't quite ring my bell. 

As I"ve said they do not nothing wrong, which for their price says a lot.  Lets be realistic, the quality you can expect for 4 mono-amps, 4 drivers, and 2 cabinets in this price range will leave nearly all studio professionals and audiophiles wanting in terms of building and sound quality.  The common complaints of studio monitors having a dry, fatiguing, overly analytical sound comes through all too well at this price point, but the 305's avoid all that.  When I say that they didn't quite satisfy me, it was the last ounce of finesse and musicality I'm speaking of, which is ridiculous to expect for the price.  On another point, I tried pushing them against the wall and it wasn't until they were 10 inches away that I started to hear excessive gain, quite remarkable for a F3=41Hz speaker.

The Adam F7 street prices are 3 times as high, so hopefully they sound better than the 305's, but several of the $700/pair active monitors I've heard don't.  Taste will always be a consideration.  In this case the ribbon tweeter is probably the biggest difference.  Most of the speakers with ribbon tweeters that I've heard tend to show off (exaggerate) those expensive tweeters as you might expect.  So to know for sure find a shop that has both (doubt they'll be properly setup) or much better yet home audition both.  By the way the Adam F5 is the more size/cost comparable model to the 305 and a friendlier size for desktop use.  While I'm mentioning that, it's difficult to find reviews of studio monitors being used in-room (nearly all use them in a desktop/studio setting), so the question of 'room filling' is rarely answered online, although I did find a review of the Adam 3X that mentioned that it was surprisingly good at doing just that (way smaller woofer, but also cost $700/pair on the street).
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: maty on 9 Dec 2017, 11:55 am
If I had JBL LSR305 I would try to improve them inside to limit their weaknesses without spending a lot of money.

Changing the output ferrites of the speakers by other Würth 150 kHz ferrites and, first of all, improving inside, especially the front, adding viscoelastic material and thus add mass and elasticity.

In Spain I use Tecsound SY 70. Cheap and very effective.

http://www.texsa.com/en/pl39/productos/id63/tecsound-sy.htm

Go to Google images.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Tecsound+SY+70+maty

First I tried with a very cheap speakers and so be able to experience without fear.

[Spanish] https://nauscopio.wordpress.com/tag/tecsound-sy-70/
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: maty on 9 Dec 2017, 12:17 pm
[IMG] http://maty.galeon.com/WP-imagenes/hard/JBL-lsr-305-amp-board.jpg

After improving the internal walls, I would isolate the cheap SMPS and very probably RF/EMI noisy by putting some 1mm steel plates.

Finnallly, the Würth 150 kHz ferrites.

Step by step.

If I have not bought them, Focal Alpha 50 is better choice I think. Well, if you listen (very) good records and ALL types of music.

* JBL LSR 305: 4,6 Kg

* Focal Alpha 50: 7,3 Kg.

Material + time = money too.

********** ********** ********** ************

By the way, now I listen in my second system, with the cheap tweaked KEF Q100 with little 5.25" coaxial:

Frank Bungarten - Heitor Villa-Lobos Complete Works for Guitar (2010) (SACD)

https://www.allmusic.com/album/heitor-villa-lobos-complete-works-for-guitar-mw0002060234

and the guitar sounds great.

Guitar, piano and organ have many harmonics and are demanding with the speakers.
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: maty on 9 Dec 2017, 02:08 pm
[French] https://www.lesnumeriques.com/enceintes-home-cinema/comparatif-enceintes-monitoring-actives-a1583.html

-> [French] https://www.lesnumeriques.com/enceintes-home-cinema/focal-alpha-50-p24381/test.html

[French] https://fr.audiofanzine.com/enceinte-active/focal/alpha-50/editorial/tests/focalpha.html

Focal Alpha 50 en jaune et Dynaudio BM5 mkIII en bleu

[IMG] https://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/948527.png
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: maty on 9 Dec 2017, 02:19 pm
@JLM

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/dynaudio-lyd-5-8

Quote
Alternatives

There’s obviously no shortage of active nearfield monitoring options around the price of the Lyd 8 and Lyd 5. Some of the strongest competitors are probably the Pioneer RM-05 and RM-07, the Focal Alpha 50 and Alpha 80, the Genelec M030 and M040, and the Adam A7X and A8X.

There are in all black.

Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: Tyson on 9 Dec 2017, 06:23 pm

* Focal Alpha 50: 7,3 Kg.


Agreed, Focal makes really great speakers!

I'm surprised no one has mentioned the Audioengine speakers, which are really great sounding:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017E10MPU/ref=psdc_3236451011_t2_B01MFD7N5T (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B017E10MPU/ref=psdc_3236451011_t2_B01MFD7N5T)
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: Thirsty on 9 Dec 2017, 06:40 pm
https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=115&cp_id=11504&cs_id=1150401&p_id=605800&seq=1&format=2

These are crazy good studio monitors for the money, I use a pair in my computer based Pro Tools set up.
There is also the 5" model for even less money.
Title: Re: Beginner's Luck -- Home speaker recommendations?
Post by: charmerci on 9 Dec 2017, 06:53 pm
https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=115&cp_id=11504&cs_id=1150401&p_id=605800&seq=1&format=2 (https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=115&cp_id=11504&cs_id=1150401&p_id=605800&seq=1&format=2)

These are crazy good studio monitors for the money, I use a pair in my computer based Pro Tools set up.
There is also the 5" model for even less money.

Grrr - I'm in the middle of a full-blown audiophilia nervosa attack!!!