I thought this forum might find Paul McGowan's comments interesting, so I posted them from his forum to this one. I'm not technically qualified to evaluate what he is saying (and only minimally follow it). As I mention below, I have a DIY passive built around an autoformer made by Dave Slagle.
I'd be interested to hear what others in this forum think. -- David
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Topic: Attenuation
Dzigas
posted 10/15/2004 8:42:28 AM
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Paul -- In your product lit for the Gain Cell, you state that "All volume controls, regardless of their design, attenuate or lower the signal level by redirecting the audio to ground."
I own a diy passive, built by Dave Slagle and Larry Moore. It uses an autoformer, rather than resistors, to attenuate inductively. My limited understanding is that the autoformer, while lowering the voltage as it attenuates, transforms the signal into current, rather than "throwing it away" as heat. Is this correct? Does it follow your description above?
I can certainly state that the sonic results are very pleasing. -- David
Paul McGowan
posted 10/15/2004 9:33:58 PM
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Well, I guess I would have to stand corrected on that one. However, using an autotransformer for this purpose is probably the last thing I would do as you're not throwing away volume but you are reducing amplitude by basically choosing different taps along the transformer. It's an interesting idea, not one that I would choose.
I am glad it's working for you, I would never have guessed it'd sound good. I'd like to try one sometime just to see. I can only imagine the frequency response must be limited and there's probably a lot of phase shift at the extremes.
Dzigas
posted 10/16/2004 6:06:10 PM
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>>>>I can only imagine the frequency response must be limited and there's probably a lot of phase shift at the extremes.
Paul -- What is it about an autoformer that leads to this observation? I'm curious. Thanks. -- David
Paul McGowan
posted 10/17/2004 3:11:38 AM
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All transformers are magnetic coupling devices and only work on AC. So, for example, the Gain Cell is flat to below 0.1 Hz. That's so close to DC that it won't even register on a transformer of any kind.
A really good transformer, be it auto or otherwise, would be considered great if it's -3dB point was 1Hz - but that means it starts to roll off (phase shift and amplitude loss) well before that, maybe 20Hz or so. And, a transformer that is flat to 20kHz is really good, but they roll off at maybe 50kHz, which means phase shift again.
A really cool input transformer, like a Jensen - similar to what Jeff Rowland uses on the input of his amps, is pretty flat within the 20Hz to 20kHz range but not even close when compared to a Gain Cell or a good buffer or even a mechanical volume control.
Having never seen the device you're referring to it's not fair for me to suggest I know its specs, but I do know that any transformer is a magnetic coupling device and has to have AC to work - so as it appears DC it works less and less - and is certainly bandwidth limited on the other end of the spectrum as well.
Hope that's as clear as mud?
Dzigas
posted 10/17/2004 8:01:31 AM
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Thanks for the info!