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Industry Circles => Bryston Limited => Topic started by: James Tanner on 6 Jul 2016, 11:27 am
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Hi Folks,
New Bryston Pi Digital Player info.
http://bash.codes/client/bryston/testing/products/digital_audio/BDP-Pi.html
james
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Nice!!!
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really nice indeed
does it support DSD files?
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really nice indeed
does it support DSD files?
Hi
No DSD. Have to go to the BDP2 for that.
James
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Slightly OT. I just upgraded to a BDP-2 this week. I have a BDA-1. Do I need to upgrade the DAC to convert DSD files or am I okay with the BDA-1?
Thanks.
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Hello,
you need the BDA-3 if you want to play DSD files. Highly suggested as it is a fantastic dac even with PCM.
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really nice indeed
does it support DSD files?
we won't prevent playing dsd files over USB to a DAC that supports it, but would not recommend it... at all
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What is the MSRP in N.A. ?
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#unincognito: Why do you think so?
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What is the MSRP in N.A. ?
$1295
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$1295
Fantastic price point.
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I have to ask do you think this unit would be on par with a transport at the same price or better in terms of resolution running into a bda-2
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I see there is also a version with black faceplate. Are there any pictures?
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I see there is also a version with black faceplate. Are there any pictures?
I do not think we have an black pictures but I will ask Chris.
james
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we won't prevent playing dsd files over USB to a DAC that supports it, but would not recommend it... at all
Hi,
why did you say so? I don't understand what you're meaning...
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Can you run 3rd party software on the BDP-Pi?
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Can you run 3rd party software on the BDP-Pi?
It is Roon certified.
james
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Hi,
why did you say so? I don't understand what you're meaning...
Maybe means SPDIF will work better than USB.
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Maybe means SPDIF will work better than USB.
But 95% of Dac accept DSD via USB only... Bda3 also via HDMI... You cannot use SPDIF
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I think just Chris could explain his comment.
The question is how much guys really use DSD. I personally play 44.1 mostly.
Specs for my DAC (not Bryston) don´t mention DSD for SPDIF but I found DSD64 working perfectly.
This is through a homebuilt player using Pi2 and Hifiberry Digi+.
But I like BDP-Pi and hope to buy, depending what European shops will charge.
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Hi,
why did you say so? I don't understand what you're meaning...
Hi Grant
I think Chris meant that we have tried the Pi playing DSD over USB and with some DACs it may work but we have not officially built in the module that allows DSD playback in the Pi yet. Just not sure what the outcome will be yet.
james
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Hi Grant
I think Chris meant that we gave tried the Pi playing DSD over USB and with some DACs it may work but we have not officially built in the module that allows DSD playback in the Pi yet. Just not sure what the outcome will be yet.
james
Hi James,
thank you for explanation. I didn't get it, makes sense.
Have a nice day!
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Hi Grant
I think Chris meant that we have tried the Pi playing DSD over USB and with some DACs it may work but we have not officially built in the module that allows DSD playback in the Pi yet. Just not sure what the outcome will be yet.
james
HI James,
You are referring to a piece of software in MM here? Or do you mean an extra piece of HifiBerry hardware?
Cheers,
Marius
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HI James,
You are referring to a piece of software in MM here? Or do you mean an extra piece of HifiBerry hardware?
Cheers,
Marius
If you are looking to play dsd via USB then i would suggest a BDP-2 over the BDP-Pi. DSD64 via USB has the occasional dropout and thus we aren't going to recommend it and DSD128 just doesn't play. We have yet to test dsd via the spdif as our own dac's don't support this, however a Bryston customer using his own setup has pm'd that he finds the performance acceptable. Because we have yet to test it we just aren't supporting dsd on the BDP-Pi, this stance may change in the future.
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If you are looking to play dsd via USB then i would suggest a BDP-2 over the BDP-Pi. DSD64 via USB has the occasional dropout and thus we aren't going to recommend it and DSD128 just doesn't play. We have yet to test dsd via the spdif as our own dac's don't support this, however a Bryston customer using his own setup has pm'd that he finds the performance acceptable. Because we have yet to test it we just aren't supporting dsd on the BDP-Pi, this stance may change in the future.
Hi Chris,
Understand what you're stating here, appreciated.
It's because James mentioned a certain module to be built in, that made me ask whether that would be a piece of hard-or software to be added later-on. I take it you see it rather as an evolutionary development of the current software.
Cheers,
Marius
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For those of us not good with computers I have my cd's ripped as Apple lossless. Should I be ripping with AIFF or do they sound the same on playback as ALE? I have a iMac only and use a iPhone. I have looked on this forum but didn't find anything for playback on a digital player.
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Hello James Big question , does it have a Linear power supply ,noticably better then a SM ps.
How about output how does the PI and BDP-2 sound vs each other ? Thank you,PJ.
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Hello James Big question , does it have a Linear power supply ,noticably better then a SM ps.
How about output how does the PI and BDP-2 sound vs each other ? Thank you,PJ.
Hi
No the Pi uses a wall-wart currently. The BDP-2 uses a linear supply.
I prefer the BDP-2 and I like the AES output best so I use the BDP-2 most of the time. The Pi is a start point for those wanting to get started and try digital music whereas the BDP-2 is an all out state of the art approach for those who want the best available digital front end.
james
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Hello James Big question , does it have a Linear power supply ,noticably better then a SM ps.
How about output how does the PI and BDP-2 sound vs each other ? Thank you,PJ.
The BDP-Pi does come with a brick (aka wall wart), but internally it has a bridge rectifier and linear regulatory. You have the option to order it with one of our existing linear power supplies (MPS-2 or PS-3), but there are limitation (you won't be able to use the BDP-Pi with a bus powered hard/solid state drive). The other option is to find an AC/AC adapter for your region that is within the BDP-Pi's tolerance, 1Amp to power just the BDP-Pi or 2Amp supply to power both BDP-Pi and bus powered drive.
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Quick question:
Virtually any DAC can be connected via the on-board S/PDIF and Toslink connectors. Also, get ultra-high resolution by connecting a USB DAC.
...from the web site seems to imply that S/PDIF is limited. I read the user manual, which doesn't mention sample rate limitations, other than for HDMI.
I recall a posting that mentioned that TOSLINK will be limited to 96/24, but can I assume that coax is supported up to 192/24?
Thanks.
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I recall a posting that mentioned that TOSLINK will be limited to 96/24, but can I assume that coax is supported up to 192/24?
correct, i believe this has been mentioned in past posts
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With the 1/3 chase size of the pi will there be a coming DAC for a maching stack?
How much better sound quality wise can I expect the pi to be compared to a laptop streaming tidal and playback off of a thumb drive with flac files?
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With the 1/3 chase size of the pi will there be a coming DAC for a maching stack?
How much better sound quality wise can I expect the pi to be compared to a laptop streaming tidal and playback off of a thumb drive with flac files?
Hi
No smaller DAC planned at this point.
The whole idea with products like the BDP 2 and the BDP-PI is to optimize the playback of digital music files and not have to deal with all the other tasks that typical computers are dealing with (virus's, adverts, noisy power supplies, fans, etc.). The power supplies and electronic circuits are all designed to provide the best quality possible and targeted to one task only - playing a digital music file.
james
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Hi James I am getting some mixed info from my local rep that maybe you could clarify what I what to is get the bdp-pi and the bp2 mm-mc or the tf-2 and power them bolth from the same power supply like the mps-2 or ps-3 is this possible I am being told that it is not.. Also if it is possible can I still use thumb drive for my files?
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Hi James I am getting some mixed info from my local rep that maybe you could clarify what I what to is get the bdp-pi and the bp2 mm-mc or the tf-2 and power them bolth from the same power supply like the mps-2 or ps-3 is this possible I am being told that it is not.. Also if it is possible can I still use thumb drive for my files?
Hi JP
The Pi is powered by a wall-wart power supply only. The BP-2 MM Phono and the BP-2 MM/MC phono stage is powered by the PS3 and we hope eventually by the MPS2 (working on it.) The TF2 is a transformer step-up so it is passive and does not require a power supply. It is designed to raise the output of the MC cartridge to the point that a normal MM Phono stage can use it. If you have a MC and a MM cartridge then the BP2 MM/MC unit is the better option because it is all in one unit but it also needs the PS3 power supply.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=148613)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=148614)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=148615)
james
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Ok so I am confused by what is says in the owners manual of the pi on page 9 item 15 where it states the mps-2 will power it with special bryston cable but may not work on some drives? :| :| :|
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So I have a lv cartridge on my table so I guess the set up I am trying to do is mps-2 to power the pi and the bp-2 mm/mc 30db is this possible or soon to be?
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Is the owners manual wrong??
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Ok so I am confused by what is says in the owners manual of the pi on page 9 item 15 where it states the mps-2 will power it with special bryston cable but may not work on some drives? :| :| :|
You could power the BDP-Pi as so long as the power supply doesn't have to supply power to the drive as well.
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Ok so a thumb or flash drive will not work the May or may not in the manual had me confused.. I was thinking a thumb drive would but a hard drive would not...
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Ok so a thumb or flash drive will not work the May or may not in the manual had me confused.. I was thinking a thumb drive would but a hard drive would not...
A thumb drive would likley be fine, but once you get into bus powered hard drives and solid state drives(not to be confused with thumb drives), then it becomes a problem with the mpd-2 and ps-3
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Hi
I would recommend just to use the wall wart power supply with the Pi then all options are available.
James
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We inch ever closer
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=148748)
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Hi Gents,
I received our sample Bryston Pi digital yesterday and want to say how pleased we are with the fit and finish. Congrats.
As part of Bryston theatre we have a BDP-2 and BDA-3.
In the great room, we will be installing the Pi, 4B Cubed Amp and BP-6 with DA.
Dan Saso
Enterra Inc
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I'm interested in the pi to add a lower cost Roon-enabled zone. I notice the Pi has an IR output option. Is there any chance this could be configured to control non-Bryston stuff (Ideally, I would like the Pi to feed my Meridian F80 and control it's volume). Thanks
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Can the BDP-Pi be controlled by the MPaD app via the Apple iPad?
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Can the BDP-Pi be controlled by the MPaD app via the Apple iPad?
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Yes it can
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Hi JP
The Pi is powered by a wall-wart power supply only. The BP-2 MM Phono and the BP-2 MM/MC phono stage is powered by the PS3 and we hope eventually by the MPS2 (working on it.) The TF2 is a transformer step-up so it is passive and does not require a power supply. It is designed to raise the output of the MC cartridge to the point that a normal MM Phono stage can use it. If you have a MC and a MM cartridge then the BP2 MM/MC unit is the better option because it is all in one unit but it also needs the PS3 power supply.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=148613)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=148614)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=148615)
james
is the mm stage similar to the 1 in the bp6?
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Hi
Similar but there has been a number of changes.
james
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I have had the pie on order for a couple weeks know getting excited that it might show up soon any word when they might hit the streets? Any body have any user feed back yet! How does it sound? How is the interface working?
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I have had the pie on order for a couple weeks know getting excited that it might show up soon any word when they might hit the streets? Any body have any user feed back yet! How does it sound? How is the interface working?
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We have shipped about 30 units so far and have about 80 on backorder.
james
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Good to here hopfully mine shows soon! As for those 30 any comments out there???
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Just ordered mine can't wait for a proper front end. Happy thanksgiving everyone
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Good to here hopfully mine shows soon! As for those 30 any comments out there???
I've had mine for a few weeks now. One small disappointment. My DAC is not compatible with the Pi's USB port. I'm restricted to SPDIF. I have an Eastern Electric DAC as mentioned in the following article, http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1212/eastern_electric_minimax_dac_plus.htm (http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/1212/eastern_electric_minimax_dac_plus.htm)
Regards,
Dan
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Dan how do you like the sound of the Pi via SPDIF?
thx..
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Dan how do you like the sound of the Pi via SPDIF?
thx..
I haven't had a lot of time with it yet. First impressions are that it's very good. Like any audiophile I have my biases and perceptions. My Peter Daniel Shigaclone (which I just sold) was exceptional but like any single disc transport wasn't very convenient.
Regards,
Dan
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https://roonlabs.com/partner-bryston.html
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which cable do you prefer so far James coax or the USB. I have a BDA-2
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which cable do you prefer so far James coax or the USB. I have a BDA-2
HI
I am using COAX.
james
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What does the bdp2 do that the bdp-pi doesn't? Different file support and different power supply? I was thinking running the bdpp off the Vinnie Rossi ultra cap power supply.
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What does the bdp2 do that the bdp-pi doesn't? Different file support and different power supply? I was thinking running the bdpp off the Vinnie Rossi ultra cap power supply.
Hi Matthew
Just about everything is different. linear power supply, computer circuit board, speed of processing, lanrger library capability, Bryston dedicated sound card, DSD file playback capability, BNC and AES EBU Balanced output.
james
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So when you say larger library capability, there are internal storages on the two devices?. Does the pi downgrade DSD to pcm?
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So when you say larger library capability, there are internal storages on the two devices?. Does the pi downgrade DSD to pcm?
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No nothing to do with internal storage - I mean the size of the library on your external USB drives. The BDP-2 can handle 100.000 plus libraries with ease whereas the Pi will be slower in accessing large libraries.The BDP-2 can have internal drive installed but the Pi can not.
No the Pi will not play or downgrade DSD to PCM.
james
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Can I expect the Pi to be available for audition at the TAVES Show
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Went to a very well known reseller in the GTA, said they had a BDP-Pi hooked up to a receiver and being very interested in auditioning the Pi I brought along my Memory sticks, one with AIFF files and the other with WAV just in case. Was told when I arrived that Roon wasn't up and running, not caring about Roon for the moment I connected the Flash drive and nothing, no sound, salesperson unplugged everything and did a restart, no sound said the player is very buggy and locks up. Isn't the Pi a plug and play unit? There's more, a sales representative from a well known cable manufacturer was also there promoting the company wares, chimed in saying "What do you expected from a Raspberry Pi" I have no problem with salespeople having preferences to brands but to disparage another was just very unprofessional.
I hope Bryston will have the Pi at the TAVES Show at the end of the month and I will not be going back to the reseller!
Hi Paul,
Can you send me a private email with the name of the dealer please. Yes the Pi is plug and play - sometimes it is very frustrating that at the dealer level there is not much expertise.
jamestanner@bryston.com
james
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So computer illiterate at this day of age it's sad can the Pi power a portable hard drive for playback or did I need a powered portable.
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So computer illiterate at this day of age it's sad can the Pi power a portable hard drive for playback or did I need a powered portable.
Hi Mike
Yes you can plug in a 2.5 inch USB drive - try a Western Digital My Passport or a Seagate.
james
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James will the BOT-1 work with BDP-Pi?
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James will the BOT-1 work with BDP-Pi?
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I have not tried that as I use the BOT with my BDP-2 - Chris should know - will ask him.
james
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If it does I know someone who will be picking a bot up!
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Well according the the info page on the BD Pi at Bryston, it will accept a BOT-1 for ripping and playback.
So now the question becomes is a BD Pi and BOT-1 combo a better solution for my needs than a BCD - 3?
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my feelings as well as I think Im over my head with the Pi. I dont even know how to move itunes music onto a external hard drive. Im hoping its not to much of a learning curve but the thought of having everything at my finger tips with a little effort is exciting.
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James will the BOT-1 work with BDP-Pi?
It hasn't been as extensively tested with the BDP-Pi as it has been with the BDP-2, but it should work just as well. The only difference I'm aware of is the BDP-Pi is about 10% slower to rip a cd relative to the BDP-2.
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Well according the the info page on the BD Pi at Bryston, it will accept a BOT-1 for ripping and playback.
So now the question becomes is a BD Pi and BOT-1 combo a better solution for my needs than a BCD - 3?
If all you want is a really good sounding cd transport then I'd go with the BCD-3, i havn't heard one yet but i suspect it would be the superior choice. If you also want a digital transport as well then the BDP-Pi/BOT combo will still give you a good cd transport in addition to other digital mediums like playing highres files using our traditional method or using 3rd party programs like Roon.
Cheers,
Chris
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my feelings as well as I think Im over my head with the Pi. I dont even know how to move itunes music onto a external hard drive. Im hoping its not to much of a learning curve but the thought of having everything at my finger tips with a little effort is exciting.
Open up two windows on your desktop - iTunes Playlist and your Finder with drive directory showing. Then just drag the music from iTunes straight to your external drive showing in Finder.
I know what you mean about computer illiteracy. Thankfully, Chris took me step-by-step whenever my BDP-1 had a hiccup. Now, no more issues (Loony Loon; I have never downgraded to Manic Moose or whatever they call it now....).
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Another thing I'd initially test: formatting hard/flash drive.
Try with a few albums to see if everything is loading up correctly and being read. For some reason initially, my NTFS drives weren't working with the BDP-1. The music would load on the BDP-1, but wouldn't play. So I had them formatted to FAT32 on Mac. You can go via "Disk Utility" and select the hard drive and "erase" a hard drive to a new format.
Also, depending on what format you use, start thinking of how to name your artwork. I typically drop one image into each folder titled "Cover.jpg"
It is spelled in the exact same way with the capitalized 'C' and 'jpg', not 'jpeg'....across all my folders. That way it works with Audirvana Plus or any software and the Bryston BDP.
(Although lately I've noticed that the BDP has cannibalized my " images and replaced it with its own versions with something like "bdp_front"...someone mind filling me in?)
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If all you want is a really good sounding cd transport then I'd go with the BCD-3, i havn't heard one yet but i suspect it would be the superior choice. If you also want a digital transport as well then the BDP-Pi/BOT combo will still give you a good cd transport in addition to other digital mediums like playing highres files using our traditional method or using 3rd party programs like Roon.
Cheers,
Chris
My primary source right now is Sonos, that is what I would listen to 90% of the time. If I chose to got with the BD-Pi and BOT-1 solution then I could eliminate the Sonos. However, since I only used Red-Book CD's (I don't download music. I prefer having a CD on hand) the BCD-3 is, at this point my preference, but I'm simply wondering if its warranted. Since, I have the BDA-3, I'm thinking that the BD-Pi/BOT-1 combo should sound as good as the BCD-3 but should cost less, and I would no longer need my computer to RIP CDs.
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Im almost done ripping my CD's into AIFF format for the arrival of the Pi. I did add to the collection but when i dragged the iTunes "music folder" over it asked if I wanted to replace delete or merge? Which one do I choose from there, thanks for any help. iMac is my computer
I'm downloading metallics's 24 bit albums as its downloading its going with the cd rips would you keep both copies to a/b test or just get rid of the cd copy
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Im almost done ripping my CD's into AIFF format for the arrival. I did add to the collection but when i dragged the iTunes "music folder" over it asked if I wanted to replace delete or merge? Which one do I choose from there, thanks for any help. iMac is my computer
I'm downloading metallics's 24 bit albums as its downloading its going with the cd rips would you keep both copies to a/b test or just get rid of the cd copy
In general recent remasters of anything but classical or jazz sound worse than original first masters. Metallica is one of the prime examples of this. If you want good sounding Metallica albums, try to find the first Music for Nations pressings. Discogs can be a great (and expensive) help here.
24 bit definitely is NO guarantee to a good or even decent sound. Always trust your ears, never the numbers.
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I did a A/B test some albums sound the same but load reload and especially DM sounds really amazing from the CD issue. Expensive but worth the cost overall even justice sounded a little more thicker in the middle. Puppets and Lighting were the same.
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I have had my Pi playing for half a day now and really enjoy it.
I fretted over nothing set up was a breeze and literally took 1 minute.
Sound quality is amazing high resolution tracks are new and even the wife listening to Metallica said it sounded good.
Bryston this another amazing piece of engineering great work and thank you.
Anyone feel free to ask me any questions I honestly don't mind
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Anyone feel free to ask me any questions I honestly don't mind
Congratulations and very cool to hear that everything worked out.
You mentioned earlier that you ripped your CDs to AIFF; did you do that with iTunes?
Then, I assume, you copied your iTunes Media / Music folder onto a USB disc and plugged it into the BDP-Pi?
Are you experiencing any tagging or album art issue?
Thanks, in advance.
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Yes I did rip my cd's to AIFF via iTunes. That worked very well had error correction on and 95% of albums came with artwork if they didn't I just added artwork or find artwork from iTunes menu.
Bryston app that comes with the IP address displays art work of the album cover. MPoD on my iPhone does not. On my iPhone I find mpod to be easier to navigate through except the radio stations Bryston app is king there.
I then copied "music" file only so I didn't drag movies etc over. The only issue and I'm sure someone will have answer is my songs are out of order for that album. Not all I found if the were tagged as track 01-02 etc then they are in order. I'm sure that's a easy fix. This album art adding a jpg file etc I still don't get because all the album work is there via Bryston app.
Anyone know how to get tracks back in proper order.
This is so slick but I see what everyone talks about a iPad or mini would be easier to navigate but I'm not having any issues.
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Bryston app that comes with the IP address displays art work of the album cover. MPoD on my iPhone does not. On my iPhone I find mpod to be easier to navigate through except the radio stations Bryston app is king there.
I then copied "music" file only so I didn't drag movies etc over. The only issue and I'm sure someone will have answer is my songs are out of order for that album. Not all I found if the were tagged as track 01-02 etc then they are in order. I'm sure that's a easy fix. This album art adding a jpg file etc I still don't get because all the album work is there via Bryston app.
Anyone know how to get tracks back in proper order.
This is so slick but I see what everyone talks about a iPad or mini would be easier to navigate but I'm not having any issues.
On the MPoD album art issue... MPD apps (MPoD, MPaD or Soundirock) will want a "folder.jpg" in each album's folder for the album art. The Bryston web interface generates these from the artwork embedded in the actual music file.
For the former, if you are using iTunes in a Mac, can be autogenerated using this:
http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=savealbumart (http://dougscripts.com/itunes/scripts/ss.php?sp=savealbumart)
What you can do is create a "Smartplaylist" in iTunes that contains track #1 for each album in your collection. Then, select that playlist and invoke the above script, which will export a "folder.jpg" for each album into the album's folder.
For the latter issue, tracks playing back out of order, this is exactly the same issue I had with AIFF when using the Bryston web interface (Manic Moose). I've reported the issue a number of times, but I am not aware of any way to fix the problem. This was why I asked the question: how are things working out with AIFF.
But, it sounds like you have a good experience, other than these two issues. Glad to hear.
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Thanks I will try that.
On a side note can I plug a coax cable and a USB out to my dac at the same time so I can A/B test. I have a eichmann coax and a cardas USB serial bus coming and I would like to hear the difference without unplugging one and plugging in another.
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Oh ya finally got the pi last night install went pretty smooth.. got it playing from a thumb drive and a HHD quickly and started making playlist. Right away sounded better than a cheap laptop I was using.. The one question I have is about the Tidal streaming so I see the Tidal beta app in the app toolbox is this correct? Also is there any other way to steam Tidal or is the app beta the only option using a iPad Air as interface
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You could try one of the other renderers found under services? I havn't used the new Shairport-Sync implementation much what little i have used has worked pretty well, should allow your iPad see the Pi as an AirPlay device.
Cheers,
Chris
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Ok so having a hard time getting the iPad to see the pi as an airplay device.. in the dashboard going to settings then services checking shareport sync then turning it on go to iPad bottom slide up menu pick airplay mirroring then it says searching for Apple TV and it finds nothing what am I doing wrong?
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Alright got the sharepoint sync to work on the iPad but still was not getting any output hooked up a digital coax and bang working good! So is this the way it is supposed to be sharepoint dose not output via USB? Got about 100 hours on and kicking butt know...
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When I want to update my portable drive on my mac do I have to shut the power off on the back when I unplug the drive.
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When I want to update my portable drive on my mac do I have to shut the power off on the back when I unplug the drive.
Hi
No you do not have to power down the Pi.
james
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Is it true that the OLED screen is disabled when connected to a USB DAC?
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Mine works just fine with USB DAC...
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Hi
No you do not have to power down the Pi.
james
It's suppose to,but some firmware releases have escaped into the wild that don't behave as intended. This is done to prevent the spi bus (used by the display) from interfearing with the USB bus during playback
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Finally auditioned the BDP-Pi, the dealer got the kinks out and I brought along my thumbdrives one with WAV files the other with AIFF for comparison. A Rotel Pre/Amp combination connect to Bryston Mini T's was used. I much preferred the sound from the AIFF files. The BDP-Pi is a very capable player only gripe is that it must be connected through an ethernet cable to the router in order to use the iPad or iPhone as the controller, no Bluetooth
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As convient as wireless is Blutooth only has a fraction of the bandwidth needed for lossless files and as such would play them back with the detail of a lossy file. For those thateother can't run a wired cable or would prefer not to we recommend using either a powerline AV kit or a wireless bridge.
Cheers
Chris
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Finally auditioned the BDP-Pi, the dealer got the kinks out and I brought along my thumbdrives one with WAV files the other with AIFF for comparison. A Rotel Pre/Amp combination connect to Bryston Mini T's was used. I much preferred the sound from the AIFF files. The BDP-Pi is a very capable player only gripe is that it must be connected through an ethernet cable to the router in order to use the iPad or iPhone as the controller, no Bluetooth
Were the thumb drives the same brand and model? First time I'm hearing someone prefer AIFF over WAV. Usually people say its identical. Only a select few prefer WAV over AIFF. Never seen it go the other way.
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Same brand and same capacity of Thumb Drives, same Roxio software was used to convert the original CD's in a Mac platform. Just seemed the sound stage was much bigger with the AIFF files
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Same brand and same capacity of Thumb Drives, same Roxio software was used to convert the original CD's in a Mac platform. Just seemed the sound stage was much bigger with the AIFF files
Hmm, thanks for the feedback. I used to use Roxio Toast Titanium as well in the past, but it messed with the metadata. XLD on the other hand is flawless and very rarely ever gives errors (1 in 400 albums). Enjoy the AIFF :thumb:
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Bryston Pi
Chris:
I wish to extend my thanks and appreciation in getting the streaming feature working for the Squeezelite service.
I am putting the system through its paces now and am really pleased with what I am hearing.
Regards!
Peter
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I have been enjoying my PI for about a week and must confess it exceeded my expectations. I run it straight into a 135 integrated and use a wd passport for storage. Those songs I ripped from either CD or Blu-Ray sound fantastic and most Itunes tracks sound good as well. Only some unknown vintage mp3 files sound muddy and compressed. The web UI works well enough though I have not started really using saved playlists.
Better documentation on using MM with the PI would be appreciated. The guide I have is for the BDP-2 and not as useful as it can be.
Kudos to Bryston for a really excellent product which has allowed me to consolidate my music into one repository. Well done!
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I have been enjoying my PI for about a week and must confess it exceeded my expectations. I run it straight into a 135 integrated and use a wd passport for storage. Those songs I ripped from either CD or Blu-Ray sound fantastic and most Itunes tracks sound good as well. Only some unknown vintage mp3 files sound muddy and compressed. The web UI works well enough though I have not started really using saved playlists.
Better documentation on using MM with the PI would be appreciated. The guide I have is for the BDP-2 and not as useful as it can be.
Kudos to Bryston for a really excellent product which has allowed me to consolidate my music into one repository. Well done!
Hi Fly Over Guy
Glad you are enjoying the Pi - it has been a huge hit for us and I think accomplishes what we hoped it would - namely to allow state of the art digital playback at a very reasonable price. :thumb:
james
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Hi Folks,
Starting to get some terrific reviews on the new Bryston Pi Digital player.
https://www.theaterbyte.com/hardware-gear-electronics/bryston-bdp-%cf%80-digital-player-theaterbyte-gear-review.html
James Tanner
Bryston Ltd.
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I couldn't be happier with mine, I just wish because I ripped in AIFF in Mpod on my iphone 6S my tracks are out of order and I have no clue how to fix that and I dont care to pay for Roon.
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Hi Folks,
Another Pi review.
Favourite Quote:
“ IT JUST WORKS”
James
Have PDF - jamestanner@bryston.com
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Yesterday I received my Bryston BDP-Ï€ serial #98 and the set-up was very straight forward, easy to install on my network and loads my massive library quickly.
Being a new unit, I assumed it had the latest firmware and checked - there was an update! The update was applied and all is well!
I'm a very pleased customer!
Donald Martin
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I couldn't be happier with mine, I just wish because I ripped in AIFF in Mpod on my iphone 6S my tracks are out of order and I have no clue how to fix that and I dont care to pay for Roon.
Hi schmidtmike76,
Sorry to derail this thread but there was definitely an issue with a genration or two of iTunes. I believe what happened was iTunes messed up the "track number" tag, so that some of the files had their correct value (ei 01, 02 etc) but others were missing that tag entirely. So in Manic Moose you are left with some tracks displayed in numerical order and others (missing the track tag) in alphabetical. Just a mess! I know because I've lived through it.
I highly recommend purchasing DBPoweramp ripping software and re-ripping the effected CDs as a FLAC Uncompressed. I promise this will work and you will love how much better Manic Moose is organized.
Should you have a PC, you can also download DBPoweramp's ID Tag Editor (Perfect Tunes) and correct your AIFF files, including adding a cover art folder to each file. Perfect Tunes is unfortunately not available for Mac OS...I have no idea why.
Cheers,
DJ
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There is no high jacking here and if anything I appreciate the help. The only way to fix is it re-rip my cd collection. Do you know of any programs that I could drag my iTunes into and a magic wand would fix the tracking errors. My iTunes is up to date. Computers are not my strong point. Roon I heard would fix it but I need a more powerful computer and the software cost is to much imo.
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There is no high jacking here and if anything I appreciate the help. The only way to fix is it re-rip my cd collection. Do you know of any programs that I could drag my iTunes into and a magic wand would fix the tracking errors. My iTunes is up to date. Computers are not my strong point. Roon I heard would fix it but I need a more powerful computer and the software cost is to much imo.
For what it's worth, I was never able to get my AIFF collection to work properly on the BDP and I went back to FLAC.
I'm a Mac user and there are great tools for tagging and ripping, like XLD and Metadactics. There are definitely problems with iTunes in how they tag AIFF files, with respect to BDP. I tried a large collection of files and re-tagged with Metadactics, which will allow you to load a huge number of files and then "re-write" the tags within for greater compatibility.
That last attempt made things better, but I kept finding many AIFF files where the BDP couldn't read some of the tags (e.g. I had lots of albums with an Unknown genre) and many albums all had the track index values read as one (1).
I can take those same files and load them into: iTunes, Roon, MinimServer, Vox ... and they all read the tags just fine. Part of the problem is MPD, which the BDP uses internally for music playback, which doesn't have good support for AIFF or WAV tags, which are not clearly defined as a standard.
My advice? Install Roon on your PC and set it up to use your iTunes library. Then, you can rip/manage your audio files in AIFF and manage your playlists with iTunes; Roon will simply send a PCM stream to your BDP. Your metadata and album art problems will be gone forever and you don't need to re-rip your collection.
If you don't want to go that route, you are not really comfortable with your PC or Mac (not sure what you have) and want to re-rip a collection that works with your BDP, consider ripping everything to FLAC using something like JRiver Media Center or dBpoweramp.
Ask more questions if you aren't sure what to do next... we are here to help.
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Thanks for the great reply I have a imac in a different room 2008 model with 4Gigs of ram but my router is at my Pi so internet connection is not a issue. Do I need a computer with 8Gigs of ram I was told I do to run Roon?
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Thanks for the great reply I have a imac in a different room 2008 model with 4Gigs of ram but my router is at my Pi so internet connection is not a issue. Do I need a computer with 8Gigs of ram I was told I do to run Roon?
Here are the requirements: https://kb.roonlabs.com/FAQ:_What_are_the_minimum_requirements%3F (https://kb.roonlabs.com/FAQ:_What_are_the_minimum_requirements%3F)
If you have an older iMac, you might consider running RoonServer on the iMac and use a tablet (iPad) as the user interface with the BDP as the playback device.
RoonServer doesn't impose the same requirements, as you aren't running the fancy user interface on that machine. I run RoonServer on a Mac Mini from 2011, but I do have an SSD drive and 8GB of RAM. However, it will still run with less - browsing might not be as fast.
Try it and see what happens with your iTunes library on the iMac.
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Hi Mike
I am running ROON on an old MAC laptop as well with no issues.
james
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Thanks James
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Potentially you will still not be able to see some of your AIFF files within Roon. I have had the same issue with my AIFF files and the files missing their track ID tag will not show up in Roon. So what I'm left with is, say, Track 3,4,5,8,11 of 12 but all other tracks are missing. These missing files, using Manic Moose, show up in alphabetical order.
So, I highly recommend re-ripping your CDs or learning how to use an ID Tag Editor like the ones outlined above. I have also tried converting the files to ALAC...with no change, still missing some files.
A FLAC file is a wonderful thing, especially if you use the "Uncompressed" codec!
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Isn't flac already uncompressed? I really have no idea thought it was. I've heard of manic Moose but what is that and how do I run it. I use my Pi two ways Mpod and bryston shortcut from the web address entered. On a iPhone 6S both apps are easy to use
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Isn't flac already uncompressed? I really have no idea thought it was.
Hi Mike,
FLAC employs“lossless” compression, which reduces the stored music file’s size, but then restores the data package to the original bit-for-bit identical music file on playback.
You don't lose any information on playback so sleep well.
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Looks like I have some work to do this weekend. Thanks Pete
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To further support CanadianMaestro's post, there are several compression algorithms used for FLAC. You may have heard of FLAC "Level 5", or "Level 8". This is used to determine the amount of file compression involved (the lower the number, the greater the compression/smaller the file size). During playback, provided your operating system has sufficient processing power, the differences between compression versions is all but unnoticeable.
That said, what I purpose is to use the FLAC "Uncompressed" codec. This will ensure that your FLAC files are the exact same size as the original CD (600-700 mb or so) but with provisions for a multitude of ID Tags. This will ensure you have the best sound quality and support over the widest range of playback systems/OS. Of course iTunes won't playback FLAC files...but I think we're all way past iTunes at this point :)
Thread officially derailed ;)
Cheers,
DJ
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Dear, Brian, dear James,
We have first excellent review about new BDP-PI in Germany in the magazine for digital HiFi „Einsnull“
Have nice weekend!
Best regards
Edvard
I have a full PDF review in German if anyone wants a copy - jamestanner@bryston.com
james
Some Quotes in English:
Bryston's BDP Pi is a lot more than a mere digial player, Because the flexibl and userfriendly hardware is fully adjustable to the user in terms of formats, resolution, and control. Despite this, the high standards of the "Canadians" in respect of built quality and sound quality remain fully in place also with in their smallest addition to their family so far !
The PI perfectly processes the full range of high res- as well as compressed audio formats via its SPDIF, HDMI or USB inputs, and any external DAC can be attached. Together with the optical drive BOT1 and a suitable DAC such as the BDA3. The PI can provide a fully fledged music server solution, including ripping function, which, thanks to its compact size of the player and the BOT, is only fractionally larger than the DAC itself.
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When I add files to my hard drive from my mac and plug it back into the Pi, on my iPhone 6s from the bryston shortcut it will say "update" highlighted in blue but won't update. I have to power down the Pi from the back then it will pull the tracks from the hard drive and update by itself. What am I doing wrong that I can't update from my iPhone. It highlights blue to update I tap it but nothing happens.
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Can I ask a simple question about the screen shutting down with USB output--is this a noise control issue, and is there a way around it? How would I enjoy the display, but making the device output through hdmi or spdif?
Thanks
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Hi James I just updated my Pi but all my files have disappeared. I'm so terrible with this but it looks like it's not finding my hd attached to it.
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Hi James I just updated my Pi but all my files have disappeared. I'm so terrible with this but it looks like it's not finding my hd attached to it.
Ok will forward this to Chris to help.
james
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Hi James I just updated my Pi but all my files have disappeared. I'm so terrible with this but it looks like it's not finding my hd attached to it.
Mike,
Try unplugging the Pi. Then reconnect your external drive to Pi. Power up Pi.
I had a similar situation with my BDP-1 a long time ago.
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Thanks James
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Mike,
Try unplugging the Pi. Then reconnect your external drive to Pi. Power up Pi.
I had a similar situation with my BDP-1 a long time ago.
I did try that several times. I have it in service mode until Chris calls back. It sees the Seagate drive but not the files. I'm sure a easy fix!
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Everything is back to 100%. Thanks Chris
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Everything is back to 100%. Thanks Chris
The drive appeared to have been unmounted for some reason, not sure why
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Bryston BDP-
PI Tinker?
Asus created a seriously more powerful competitor called the Tinker Board (http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/asus-tinkerboard-release-date-price-specs-buy). It does look interesting...
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Yah thats not there first go at copying the Pi, one of there other companies Aaeon released this
http://up-shop.org/up-boards/44-up-board-4gb-ram-64-gb-emmc.html
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http://av2day.com/2017/01/bryston-bdp-pi/
james
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http://av2day.com/2017/01/bryston-bdp-pi/
james
Nice review, I didn't realize this was HDMI compatible.
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I just updated on my iPad and now it cannot find server?
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I just updated on my iPad and now it cannot find server?
Hi
Make sure you have the correct IP address in the browser.
james
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All fixed. you were right I just had to renew the IP, thanks James
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I am a frequent reader of Bryston circles and a long time owner :D. I have a question I hope some members can provide feedback on. Using the coax out on a BDP-1 or BDP-2 with the older sound card how does the sound compare to the Pi? Very happy with the SQ of my BDP-1 and can get another NOS from a dealer for around the same price as a Pi. Not sure which one would be the best sound.
Look forward to hearing about other members experiences.
Cheers,
Mike
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James Im unable to update my Pi. I lost connection as it said server was down, dont know what that means. I shut it down restarted still bricked, I unplugged the hard drive and then it read that but still not able to update? IP address seems to be right
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James Im unable to update my Pi. I lost connection as it said server was down, dont know what that means. I shut it down restarted still bricked, I unplugged the hard drive and then it read that but still not able to update? IP address seems to be right
So it works but no update available?
james
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Yes it works but is unable to update and it took two days to get it from its bricked stage.
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James I messed up by deleting a radio station. I added it to my playlist then I deleted it fron the playlist but now it's missing from the pop menu all together. It was 181.1 under pop no sub menu how do I get it back?
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James I messed up by deleting a radio station. I added it to my playlist then I deleted it fron the playlist but now it's missing from the pop menu all together. It was 181.1 under pop no sub menu how do I get it back?
If its not listed under POP then it is no longer available. I will try here and see.
james
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Thanks James
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Was it under POP Oldies?
james
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No just under pop then typically about 5-7-8 down from the top. No sub headers just pop
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OK this is the 4th one down on my setup:
181.FM - POWER 181 -=[: The Hitz Channel :]=- www.181.fm
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Yes this is the one and my stations are back to 5000 last night it was 4490? I really love my megadeath and Metallica but this station has a really good mix.
I forgot to mention my Pi was finally able to update yesterday afternoon it took a few attempts.
James your amazing with your service and products thank you
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I just ordered a BDP-Pi from Audio Advisor and will receive it in a few days. I've poured over the instruction manual on the Bryston website and I am confused about the type of storage drive that is acceptable to feed music files to the player. The manual seems to be a little contradictory:
*The BDP-Pi also requires that you store and organize your music library on a connected USB drive and/or via network attached storage. Thus, the minimum hookup requirements include attaching a music storage device like a *portable* hard drive (emphasis mine)
*Your BDP-Pi can accept most USB storage media including thumb drives, buss-powered hard drives, and self-powered hard drives. Available current to power buss-powered drives depends on load from the BDP-Pi processor. Therefore, Bryston recommends connecting only one USB buss powered drive. Please check the literature that came with your hard drive to determine its power requirements if you have trouble with your drive. Self-powered drives and thumb drives draw very little current so several can be connected at once.
*When using USB storage, note that the available total output power from the power supply is limited. Buss powered storage such as *portable* hard drives consume available current. Self powered hard drives and powered USB DACs will have little impact on total current.
So, it is not clear to me what all my options are. Portable hard drives don't typically publish their power requirements. On the one hand, the manual seems to say using one bus-powered drive is ok (bus-powered meaning that the drive gets its power through its USB connection to the computer, the case with portable hard drives and flash drives). On the other, it warns that this consumes power from the BDP-Pi. It sounds like a powered drive is the better choice. I purchased a Western Digital My Book 3TB External USB 3.0 Hard Drive for $77 at Best Buy. That's pretty cheap, and it runs under its own power via an AC adapter that plugs into an outlet. However I didn't know about these so-called "personal cloud" hard drives like the WD My Cloud. This would seem to be a better choice as apparently I could easily upload new music files. With the My Book, I'll have to detach it from the BDP, unplug it from its power source, carry it over to my computer, attach it, upload the files, then reinstall it to the BDP. Not an enormous hassle, and considering I got the thing for 77 bucks, perhaps a bargain. But I think I should have gotten the My Cloud, but I didn't know anything about such devices.
Does using a bus powered drive of any kind compromise performance? What do you know about these personal cloud things?
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A BDP-Pi should be able to power one bus powered drive, I'm not aware of any drives that do not work with the BDP-Pi. If you try to draw to much current from the USB ports they will simply power down. The benefit of using a USB drive is there is far less that can go wrong and you can still access it over the network as the BDP will create network shares for each drive attached to it. The benefit of using NAS is the additional administration features that come with most nas's.
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If I understand you correctly, with the BDP attached to my router via Ethernet, I will be able to upload files to the storage drive attached to the usb input without it being a network storage device, just an ordinary external hard drive. That would make me happy.
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^ A 1-TB USB drive from G-Tech is rated at a max current demand of 900-mA. It works on BDP-1/2, and should work on a BDP-Pi (I haven't tried one). If that fails, try using lower-current USB thumb drives at 32-128 GB or so.
Seagate is also a good mfr, and their drives can be bought cheaper from Amazon resellers. Great for backing up files as well as playback.
http://www.seagate.com/ca/en/consumer/backup/backup-plus-mac/
http://www.g-technology.com/products/g-drive-mobile-usb
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^ A 1-TB USB drive from G-Tech is rated at a max current demand of 900-mA. It works on BDP-1/2, and should work on a BDP-Pi (I haven't tried one). If that fails, try using lower-current USB thumb drives at 32-128 GB or so.
Seagate is also a good mfr, and their drives can be bought cheaper from Amazon resellers. Great for backing up files as well as playback.
http://www.seagate.com/ca/en/consumer/backup/backup-plus-mac/
http://www.g-technology.com/products/g-drive-mobile-usb
I have ran my Western Digital portable 2TB's from the front USB ports previously which are designed for thumb drives. Those will definitely work.
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I have ran my Western Digital portable 2TB's from the front USB ports previously which are designed for thumb drives. Those will definitely work.
This on the Pi?
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This on the Pi?
No. BDP-1. I figure if it can run on the front low-powered ports than it should be easy on the Pi. I do remember their power consumption was lower than 500mA. I looked into it specifically before I got dedicated drives for the BDP-1. It may have been even been as low as 350mA.
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Hi,
I have a simple question.
In case you connect an external HD (1 or 2TB) to a BDP like you just said, what happens when the HD is disconnected to add new files and connected again to BDP? Does the bdp have to screen again the whole drive before being able to play or will it just screen the new files?
I hope I was clear enough...
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Hi,
I have a simple question.
In case you connect an external HD (1 or 2TB) to a BDP like you just said, what happens when the HD is disconnected to add new files and connected again to BDP? Does the bdp have to screen again the whole drive before being able to play or will it just screen the new files?
I hope I was clear enough...
I grasp your Q completely.
With BDP-1, I power down before detaching and updating. Reattch drive and THEN power up. It's SLOW to update -- likely reads the entire drive again.
With BDP-2, no problem -- super-fast on power-up and updating is faster. Also, can detach drive without powering down.
Hope that helps.
p.s. I don't care about cover art and the frills. Just the musik. :thumb:
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Hi,
I have a simple question.
In case you connect an external HD (1 or 2TB) to a BDP like you just said, what happens when the HD is disconnected to add new files and connected again to BDP? Does the bdp have to screen again the whole drive before being able to play or will it just screen the new files?
I hope I was clear enough...
It has to rescan everything if you want to see the new files or folders. On Manic Moose, you have to hit the 'Update' button. Building it again is actually good IMO. I have had other systems and database fail when the computer has to figure out what has added or when a pre-existing file or folder has their name changed. Or that I added cover art. It's much better to build from start.
I'm currently at 1TB, so as the library gets bigger and bigger, the time increases. Still, not a big deal as it's a few minutes. I usually schedule folder transfers once a week or two where I'll put in a bunch of albums at the same time rather than doing one at a time. I'm in no rush to do every album ASAP considering that I have a TB to last me. :green:
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With BDP-1, I power down before detaching and updating. Reattch drive and THEN power up.
I used to do the same when I didn't know of the "update" button on Manic Moose. Not anymore. You don't lose data by unplugging according to Bryston and no need to wait longer for the unit to boot. Am I missing something?
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I used to do the same when I didn't know of the "update" button on Manic Moose. Not anymore. You don't lose data by unplugging according to Bryston and no need to wait longer for the unit to boot. Am I missing something?
No, you're missing nothing.
My BDP-1 was on Loony Loon, not Moose.
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I grasp your Q completely.
With BDP-1, I power down before detaching and updating. Reattch drive and THEN power up. It's SLOW to update -- likely reads the entire drive again.
With BDP-2, no problem -- super-fast on power-up and updating is faster. Also, can detach drive without powering down.
Hope that helps.
p.s. I don't care about cover art and the frills. Just the musik. :thumb:
thank you very much for your quick answer
I do agree with you :thumb: just music
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Thanks!
maybe with new BDP3 the process will be faster... but it might be an issue if someone adds files frequently without having a NAS and he also cares about album art and metadata
It has to rescan everything if you want to see the new files or folders. On Manic Moose, you have to hit the 'Update' button. Building it again is actually good IMO. I have had other systems and database fail when the computer has to figure out what has added or when a pre-existing file or folder has their name changed. Or that I added cover art. It's much better to build from start.
I'm currently at 1TB, so as the library gets bigger and bigger, the time increases. Still, not a big deal as it's a few minutes. I usually schedule folder transfers once a week or two where I'll put in a bunch of albums at the same time rather than doing one at a time. I'm in no rush to do every album ASAP considering that I have a TB to last me. :green:
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Other than for copying whole drives, why would you take out the usb drive?
Just copy over the network, and select the selective-folder-update to, well, update the latest album/folder ;-) Quite fast.
Might be useful to select the option on the BDP to show the new files/folders in red to point you in the right way. I have that selected and in the odd case i forgot a folder earlier, it will always remind you to click update when browsing that folder.
Cheers,
Marius
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Yes, but you need to have BDP connected to a lan to do that.
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Yes, but you need to have BDP connected to a lan to do that.
True. No point denying that.
Which is very useful for many other uses of the Bdp. Yours isn't ?
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If I understand you correctly, with the BDP attached to my router via Ethernet, I will be able to upload files to the storage drive attached to the usb input without it being a network storage device, just an ordinary external hard drive. That would make me happy.
Yes, it'll appear as a network share and you can copy files to and from it. The BDP-Pi only has 100Mb/s ethernet, so it won't be lighting fast but it should get the job done.
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No. BDP-1. I figure if it can run on the front low-powered ports than it should be easy on the Pi. I do remember their power consumption was lower than 500mA. I looked into it specifically before I got dedicated drives for the BDP-1. It may have been even been as low as 350mA.
That is quite reasonable, the BDP-1 is by far our most limited unit, even if it runs off the lower rear USB port the BDP-Pi should be able to drive it without issue.
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True. No point denying that.
Which is very useful for many other uses of the Bdp. Yours isn't ?
I don't own a BDP but I am interested in buying one in the future and I wanted to understand how it works.
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Hi James,
Recently one of our BDP-pi's was reviewed on Youtube by Hans Beekhuyzen
Here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4FU1tqZdeU&t=65s
Have a nice weekend
Hein
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Can I use JRIVER for control of the pi? I am close to grabbing one. If not I'll use MM. Thanks.
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Can I use JRIVER for control of the pi? I am close to grabbing one. If not I'll use MM. Thanks.
you can enable upnp renderer, but it'll use different playback software
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My pie has been unplugged for four months.
The partnering kef ls50w that I purchased at the same time has been in continuous use : )
I burnt 20 cd's to wav on usb sticks and brought both systems down to Myrtle Beach for a golf party.
The pie > optical > kef would only play one song at a time, kind of embarrassing having to get up every five minutes.
Am I missing something really simple?
Shawn
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The pie > optical > kef would only play one song at a time, kind of embarrassing having to get up every five minutes.
Am I missing something really simple?
Shawn
Check that the max limit on your playlist setting is > 1.
( I don't own a Pi, just a BDP. )
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My pie has been unplugged for four months.
The partnering kef ls50w that I purchased at the same time has been in continuous use : )
I burnt 20 cd's to wav on usb sticks and brought both systems down to Myrtle Beach for a golf party.
The pie > optical > kef would only play one song at a time, kind of embarrassing having to get up every five minutes.
Am I missing something really simple?
Shawn
if your clicking play (push option twice) on the song file then it just plays the song, if you do the same but the folder containing the music then it should play the entire contents
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missed this before, Bryston gets mentioned http://archimago.blogspot.nl/2017/01/measurements-raspberry-pi-3-as-usb.html
interesting measurements included, especially worth reading conclusions in regards to the power supply.
Cheers,
Marius
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Hello,
New here and I am considering purchasing a BDP-Pi as it appears to meet my needs: 1) standalone solution which can accept my HDD of FLAC/ALAC files (up to 24/192) and simply play them without the need of an external computer, 2) simple connection and operation and Turnkey (I have no tolerance for having to fidget and I am not nor want to have to be an IT professional) and 3) is coming from a well-respected company which stands behind their products (5 year warranty)
My question is as follows:
Will the USB output of the BDP-Pi be a no-fuss "plug and play" i.e. Just Works with my USB DAC (NuPrime IDA-8) ? The NuPrime will accept sampling rates up to 4xDSD so that should not be a problem.
The reason I ask beforehand is that I am only interested in the USB output of the Pi since I am already using the sole Coax input on the IDA-8 and the Toslink is limited to 96k and I have little knowledge about computers and most importantly even less desire to attempt to deal with connection issues after the fact.
Thanks,
Eric
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Hello,
New here and I am considering purchasing a BDP-Pi as it appears to meet my needs: 1) standalone solution which can accept my HDD of FLAC/ALAC files (up to 24/192) and simply play them without the need of an external computer, 2) simple connection and operation and Turnkey (I have no tolerance for having to fidget and I am not nor want to have to be an IT professional) and 3) is coming from a well-respected company which stands behind their products (5 year warranty)
My question is as follows:
Will the USB output of the BDP-Pi be a no-fuss "plug and play" i.e. Just Works with my USB DAC (NuPrime IDA-8) ? The NuPrime will accept sampling rates up to 4xDSD so that should not be a problem.
The reason I ask beforehand is that I am only interested in the USB output of the Pi since I am already using the sole Coax input on the IDA-8 and the Toslink is limited to 96k and I have little knowledge about computers and most importantly even less desire to attempt to deal with connection issues after the fact.
Thanks,
Eric
Hi Eric,
I wouldn't recommend using the BDP-Pi if you want DSD playback over USB or use of a USB DAC, the DSD doesn't work very well over USB, DSD over the digital COAX has never been tested as our own DAC's don't support and using a USB DAC will disable its display during playback. I would recommend using either a BDP-2/3 if want DSD capability.
Chris
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Chris,
Thanks for the reply. I have no interest in DSD at all I would only want to be able to handle up to 24/192. Sorry if that part of my question was unclear.
So all I would be looking to do is to send up to 24/192 over USB to my NuPrime IDA-8 - hope that makes things clear
Eric
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I have a ton of issues with tidal. I cannot log in it defaults to some other player and cannot logout fully? Any fixes iam updated
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I have a ton of issues with tidal. I cannot log in it defaults to some other player and cannot logout fully? Any fixes iam updated
I don't think the Bryston/Tidal interface application is all that great. There was a problem a while back logging in if your Tidal password had special characters (@#!$,etc) but I think that was fixed. I still have a problem in that it frequently defaults to raspberry and I have to reset it to my NAD USB DAC. Right now I am having a problem because it says I have no internet connection (my internet works, and the correct lights are indicated on the pi Ethernet port). I have e-mailed Bryston Support, but it's the weekend.
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I don't think the Bryston/Tidal interface application is all that great. There was a problem a while back logging in if your Tidal password had special characters (@#!$,etc) but I think that was fixed. I still have a problem in that it frequently defaults to raspberry and I have to reset it to my NAD USB DAC. Right now I am having a problem because it says I have no internet connection (my internet works, and the correct lights are indicated on the pi Ethernet port). I have e-mailed Bryston Support, but it's the weekend.
That should have no bearing on tidal, the internetstate is there for the audio CD features whether or not it should speand time identifying an audio CD.
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That should have no bearing on tidal, the internetstate is there for the audio CD features whether or not it should speand time identifying an audio CD.
I'm grateful for the reply, but don't really understand what you mean. What are audio CD features? I do not presently own a CD player, nor do I know what a BDP has to do with CDs.
Edited to add: I got an e-mail from Chris from Bryston support (sent after business hours, which I think is pretty great service) who said pretty much that if everything works (Radio, Tidal, the Music Player) that I should just ignore the "No internet connection". Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but perhaps its just a temporary bug and will fix itself. (Turning the BDP on and off, restarting my computer, has no effect--still says "BDP has no internet connection.")
Edited again: [RANT] ARRGH! Just had a problem like described by schmidtmike76, got a log in request when going to the Tidal application, would not accept my credentials, but clicking on anything on the left-hand Tidal menu just brought me to Tidal anyway. But crazy things are happening, such as not allowing me to select lossless and my USB DAC doesn't appear in devices. When I select an artist, sometimes only top tracks appear, no discography! "Discography" is grayed out! (On artists where I know there are albums there) Turning the BDP on and off seems to have fixed some things, but not others, I AM GETTING AWFULLY TIRED OF THESE QUIRKS. I would be prepared to say I have a faulty or slow internet connection, but I don't have these problems when using Tidal's own desktop app. [/RANT]
When everything works right, I am delighted to have an incredible library of music at my fingertips--Tidal--play through my home stereo, without having physical media take up space.
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I'm grateful for the reply, but don't really understand what you mean. What are audio CD features? I do not presently own a CD player, nor do I know what a BDP has to do with CDs.
Edited to add: I got an e-mail from Chris from Bryston support (sent after business hours, which I think is pretty great service) who said pretty much that if everything works (Radio, Tidal, the Music Player) that I should just ignore the "No internet connection". Not exactly what I wanted to hear, but perhaps its just a temporary bug and will fix itself. (Turning the BDP on and off, restarting my computer, has no effect--still says "BDP has no internet connection.")
Edited again: [RANT] ARRGH! Just had a problem like described by schmidtmike76, got a log in request when going to the Tidal application, would not accept my credentials, but clicking on anything on the left-hand Tidal menu just brought me to Tidal anyway. But crazy things are happening, such as not allowing me to select lossless and my USB DAC doesn't appear in devices. When I select an artist, sometimes only top tracks appear, no discography! "Discography" is grayed out! (On artists where I know there are albums there) Turning the BDP on and off seems to have fixed some things, but not others, I AM GETTING AWFULLY TIRED OF THESE QUIRKS. I would be prepared to say I have a faulty or slow internet connection, but I don't have these problems when using Tidal's own desktop app. [/RANT]
When everything works right, I am delighted to have an incredible library of music at my fingertips--Tidal--play through my home stereo, without having physical media take up space.
you can connect a usb optical drive to the BDP and the BDP will have the ability to play audio cd's and to rip them, identifying the cd relies on an internet connection, if no internet connection is available this tells it not try to identify by way of internet sources.
The issue is due to a change outside of our control
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you can connect a usb optical drive to the BDP and the BDP will have the ability to play audio cd's and to rip them, identifying the cd relies on an internet connection, if no internet connection is available this tells it not try to identify by way of internet sources.
The issue is due to a change outside of our control
OK, thanks. This sounds like something that doesn't affect me as I won't be ripping any CDs. What I mostly care about is a stable, reliable Tidal experience. Though why it would say "BDP has no internet connection" when I obviously do (internet radio and Tidal work) remains a mystery.
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you can connect a usb optical drive to the BDP and the BDP will have the ability to play audio cd's and to rip them, identifying the cd relies on an internet connection
Does this imply that you can connect any external CD drive via USB (not just Bryston's BOT) and rip CDs using the BDP? What control software is required? Can it be done from within Manic Moose?
Thanks.
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Does this imply that you can connect any external CD drive via USB (not just Bryston's BOT) and rip CDs using the BDP? What control software is required? Can it be done from within Manic Moose?
Thanks.
I find it curious that there is nothing in the Owners Manual about this.
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Yes. Me too. I checked both the BDP-2 Owner's Manual and the Manic Moose documentation. Nothing in MM. OM mentions attaching external disc drives, but specifically refers to hard drives, not even the BOT-1 which may have come after the original documentation was written. Ergo, you would expect some mention in the MM docs. The BOT-1 features section on the Bryston website mentions that with the BOT-1 "Take full control over ripping parameters and meta-data using our Manic Moose web interface on your tablet or smartphone, or let the BDP do it automatically and rip with a single button press on the front panel of the BDP". But does that utilize instructions in the BOT-1 firmware or can you use any old "dumb" external drive? Waiting to hear the last word from Bryston.
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I find it curious that there is nothing in the Owners Manual about this.
It should be covered in the bot-1 manual, yes most USB Optical drives should work, apple's USB super drive will not.
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I will conduct an empirical test and report back!
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I don't think the Bryston/Tidal interface application is all that great. There was a problem a while back logging in if your Tidal password had special characters (@#!$,etc) but I think that was fixed. I still have a problem in that it frequently defaults to raspberry and I have to reset it to my NAD USB DAC. Right now I am having a problem because it says I have no internet connection (my internet works, and the correct lights are indicated on the pi Ethernet port). I have e-mailed Bryston Support, but it's the weekend.
My BDP3 reported no internet connection for past two days while I was streaming radio. Internet connection was fine and everything kept working as usual.
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My BDP3 reported no internet connection for past two days while I was streaming radio. Internet connection was fine and everything kept working as usual.
Hi Folks
Yes it's a bug - Chris is working on it.
James
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you can connect a usb optical drive to the BDP and the BDP will have the ability to play audio cd's and to rip them
Yes, it works - sort of. I was able to rip a CD to my BDP-2 music drive using Manic Moose and an off-the-shelf LG external CD/DVD reader/writer (approx. C$25). However, the process was kludgy, slow and error-prone i.e. not recommended. I tried ripping 4 different CDs and was only successful with one. With the others, the drive door popped open mid-way through and appeared to "hang" the BDP-2. I guess that's why Bryston offers a $1,400 BOT-1, rather than a $25 off-the-shelf drive! :o :cry: :scratch:
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Yes, it works - sort of. I was able to rip a CD to my BDP-2 music drive using Manic Moose and an off-the-shelf LG external CD/DVD reader/writer (approx. C$25). However, the process was kludgy, slow and error-prone i.e. not recommended. I tried ripping 4 different CDs and was only successful with one. With the others, the drive door popped open mid-way through and appeared to "hang" the BDP-2. I guess that's why Bryston offers a $1,400 BOT-1, rather than a $25 off-the-shelf drive! :o :cry: :scratch:
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Yes the BOT works great - I have ripped about 200 CD's with it so far.
james
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Yes, it works - sort of. I was able to rip a CD to my BDP-2 music drive using Manic Moose and an off-the-shelf LG external CD/DVD reader/writer (approx. C$25). However, the process was kludgy, slow and error-prone i.e. not recommended. I tried ripping 4 different CDs and was only successful with one. With the others, the drive door popped open mid-way through and appeared to "hang" the BDP-2. I guess that's why Bryston offers a $1,400 BOT-1, rather than a $25 off-the-shelf drive! :o :cry: :scratch:
I'm certainly able to rip CD's all day long without a hitch on my $19 off-the-shelf SATA drive that is resident in my home computer PC. I don't think the price of the drive has anything to do with it. It sounds like software to me. The software may not be completely compatible with an off-the-shelf system.
brucek
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I'm certainly able to rip CD's all day long without a hitch on my $19 off-the-shelf SATA drive that is resident in my home computer PC. I don't think the price of the drive has anything to do with it. It sounds like software to me. The software may not be completely compatible with an off-the-shelf system.
brucek
Confirmed. Got a 40-ish Euro drive attached to my BDP-1 and it’s working fine. That is to say, as it is designed . Still prefer ripping on my Mac and be able to do all kind of related things (browse for pics, correct tags etc) move files to their destination while doing so, and still be able to play the BDP;-)
Personally I find the option of playing a disc over the BDP far more interesting and more of possible added value.
Cheers,
Marius
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This is all I'm still getting. Not a real fan of paying for tidal when I can't use it
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=168154)
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Mike what version of software are you using?
james
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2.34?
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schmidtmike76, You are not alone in having problems! I went to turn on my BDP-Pi today, and---NOTHING. The power light stays red and the screen is totally blank. Turning the unit on and off has no effect. I have e-mailed support. In this condition I can't even put it in service mode!
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Ok just checking. Mine seems to work fine. So you can not enter your info?
James
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schmidtmike76, when I had your problem, I clicked on one of the menu items (such as "My Music") and I was taken there and everything worked.
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schmidtmike76, You are not alone in having problems! I went to turn on my BDP-Pi today, and---NOTHING. The power light stays red and the screen is totally blank. Turning the unit on and off has no effect. I have e-mailed support. In this condition I can't even put it in service mode!
Hi Larry
There must be something seriously wrong with your unit. Please email Chris. Maybe we should get that unit back.
James
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Ok I am having trouble with TIDAL as well. Everything else works fine so Chris will have to look at this.
James
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Thanks James. I really wish we could run tidal from our iPads!!!
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This is all I'm still getting. Not a real fan of paying for tidal when I can't
You'll need to place the BDP into service mode for us to take a look
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
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Sorry for the delay it had no internet connection but it's in service mode now
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Hi Larry
There must be something seriously wrong with your unit. Please email Chris. Maybe we should get that unit back.
James
Talked to Mike at Bryston this morning who thinks the unit's symptom (red power light, blank screen) reflects a bad SD card. He's sending me a replacement, and says it's a straightforward user replaceable part. I was very satisfied with my interaction with Mike at Bryston support. Just hope this does the trick.
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Larry they sent me a new SD card and it fixed my issue mine went down a month ago. Bryston Im sorry and Im not hammering you but they know there was issues with some of the cards. Youll need a odd driver to get the screws out through.
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You'll need to place the BDP into service mode for us to take a look
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Will I be able to take this out of service mode tonight. TIA, Mike
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It now shows no internet connection
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It now shows no internet connection
I have not seen an email containing your BDP's service id
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Hi Mike,
The unit doesn't appear to be misbehaving at the moment, in the manual i linked to earlier is an email, the next time the issue occurs you should place the bdp back into service mode and email the service id along with either a screenshot or quick description of the issue.
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Chris
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Thanks Chris all is well on the Pi front, I went home at lunch and all is operational
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Hi James,
I couldn't find it in the manual, but does the BDP-Pi play gapless?
Thanks,
Willy
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Hi James,
I couldn't find it in the manual, but does the BDP-Pi play gapless?
Thanks,
Willy
Hi
As far as I know no issues with gapless. Chris will know for sure.
James
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Thanks James,
As my current streamer doesn't play gapless, it is important for me that the new streamer has no problems with it. Just to be on the safe side could you ask Chris about this? Or alternatively, can I contact him?
Thanks again,
Willy
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Should I leave my Pi on all the time? Sometimes when a power switch is on the back, it indicates that the unit is meant to be left on full time. But I think the power switch on the Pi is on the back for cosmetic reasons.
It is not uncommon for me to go several days without listening to music. I've always been a "shut it off when not in use" type.
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Hello. Question about the BDP-pi. If I'm only interested in using it as a Roon endpoint, is it possible to run the Hifiberry Raspbian/Roon Client software or dietpi instead of Manic Moose? Thanks very much...
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Can you plug a USB out and a coax at the same time into a BDA-3
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Can you plug a USB out and a coax at the same time into a BDA-3
Hi
Yes
james
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I have no sound coming out with the USB cable? Out of the 4 USB hubs in the back I can plug that cable into any of those correct? I’m lost
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I have no sound coming out with the USB cable? Out of the 4 USB hubs in the back I can plug that cable into any of those correct? I’m lost
Have you clicked on (engaged) USB in the Audio Devices page in Manic Moose?
james
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Sorry for the late reply, Chris took care of me and really helped me out. In the new year he’s going to reformat my hard drive and that should help. But for now he put a code in remotely that helped. Thank you bryston and specifically Chris!
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Have the BDP3 and love it, just ordered the BDP-Pi and should be coming in the next few days.
Refresh my memory with the issue with the screen when it auto-turns off? I think I read that somewhere in a review.
Thanks in advance!
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When you use USB as a Audio output it shuts off and remains black to eliminate noise.
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But I guess you could still have a control screen through Roon on an iphone or android. I'm not sure a noise gremlin between a USB device and a screen would be a big deal, but I guess that's why they're the experts. :)
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Everything on my iPad is the same no worries it’s just the Pi that’s black.
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But I guess you could still have a control screen through Roon on an iphone or android. I'm not sure a noise gremlin between a USB device and a screen would be a big deal, but I guess that's why they're the experts. :)
It's only the display located on the very front of the unit that's meant more for feedback then actually chosing music, which can still be accomplished if the player is stopped or paused. It's due to interference caused by using the data bus used to update the display and it's noticeable to even an untrained ear.
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I have a new BDP-pi. It's taken me a week to get network issues resolved and to get actual sound to come out of it and into my audio system. As of now, I think I'm all set for playing music from USB devices (thumb drives and hard-disk drives) and for commanding the thing from a laptop or cell phone (Android).
BUT -- I have a very basic question, which will strike most of you as the height of ignorance. If I were to subscribe to a streaming service like (to be specific) Spotify, how would I get the music to the BDP-pi? Is it possible?
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I don't think it's possible only tidal through the pi under applications. I love tidal and the sound quality is really good.
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Thanks. My interest is classical music. Within that group of enthusiasts, Spotify has found particular favor for its selection.
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if you have a mac or ios (iPhone/iPad) device you could try using shairport-sync playback method, it should allow lossless (44khz) playback from any program on the device.
Chris
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I'm trying to get to the BDP-pi through my network. This is Windows 8.1. I want to see if I can access the hard disk (WD Passport) that's attached to the BDP-pi. For reasons I can't explain, the network has decided that the BDP-pi is part of the domain OBSERVATORY. In fact I have an astronomical observatory, and I think the observatory's PC is called OBSERVATORY. The problem is, the network wants me to login to the BDP-pi using credentials for OBSERVATORY. I have no idea what it wants. Nothing I've tried works, and that includes the login that I use for the observatory computer. I know this is really more of a Windows question than a BDP-pi question, but is there some way to decouple the BDP-pi from the bogus domain OBSERVATORY?
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try entering the following as the username
bryston-bdp-pi\bryston
chris
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It doesn't let me fill in the username. It's pre-filled with OBSERVATORY\user.
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UPDATE: I was able to access the BDP-pi as a network device with a Windows 10 computer with no problem. The computer that wouldn't let me in has Win 8.1 (still unresolved). But I didn't find what I was hoping to find. I thought maybe I could rip files directly to the WD Passport drive while it's plugged into the BDP-pi, instead of moving the WD Passport over to the ripping PC, which is how I've been doing it. No joy. Getting into the BDP-pi through the network doesn't give me access to anything useful.
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If you connect the drive after the BDP has been turned on you need to either reboot the BDP or stop and then start the SAMBA service in the services settings page. The BDP should create a network share for the USB drive.
Chris
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Yes! Rebooting causes the My Passport drive to show up! Thank you!
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I don't see album covers displayed in either Manic Moose or on the front panel. Most of my listening is classical, and most of my material is ripped CDs. I don't expect to see cover art for those. But even pop items don't show. Is there something I need to do to enable the display of album covers?
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UPDATE: Cover art has to be in a file called cover.jpg. Once renamed, it shows in Manic Moose. But it still doesn't show on the BDP-pi panel display. Downloadable cover art is apparently unavailable for most albums. Purchased downloads usually have it, but discs ripped with Foobar2000 don't retrieve it from musicbrainz.
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According to the Bryston website and the Digital Audio Brochure, the BDP-pi can access "TIDAL, Internet Radio, Custom URLs." It's the "Custom URLs" that interest me. How do I implement this? I want to stream audio from Youtube.
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Our firmware supports playing icecast and icecast compatible streams like this one
http://classicalfm.ca/radio-player/
You can copy URLs into the search field of bRadio and the BDP will attempt to find any usable streams/playlists linked in the given web site.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=175077)
YouTube uses a rather proprietary system and as far as I am aware playback isn't supported outside of an official app or web browser.
Cheers,
Chris
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I found an additional component for Foobar2000 that allows me to play Youtube audio through my system (instead of just through the PC speakers). Maybe there's a simpler way, but I didn't find it. Just plugging in a USB cable to the BDP or to the DAC or anything else didn't yield sound. There are also apps that claim to allow recording of Youtube audio, but the ones I tried either required that I pay after a trial (that's their right, but in my case I'm not sure that it's economically warranted), or they want you to install apps to receive advertising.
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Anyone else’s tidal not playing tonight
disregard it’s back
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Chris is there anyway of getting the ipad app to the Pi and to use rather than the Bryston version?
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I have a basic question about the operation of the BDP-pi. I have a lot of music that I've ripped to a Western Digital MyPassport hard disk, with lots more to come. When I tell Manic Moose to play a piece of music from the disk drive, does the BDP-pi read the entire file into memory? Or, does it read the music from the disk drive in real time?
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Question. How would one go about playing DSD music using a Bryston Pi plus an older Antelope Zodiac Gold DAC which isn't DSD capable? Obviously there must be a conversion done in order to turn the tracks into PCM which the Antelope can handle. But apart from Roon handling DSD to PCM conversion, is there any other way?
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Question. How would one go about playing DSD music using a Bryston Pi plus an older Antelope Zodiac Gold DAC which isn't DSD capable? Obviously there must be a conversion done in order to turn the tracks into PCM which the Antelope can handle. But apart from Roon handling DSD to PCM conversion, is there any other way?
Hi
You could use some software to convert them to wav or flac on a pc or Mac? You be seen people post about the program linked below, available for Mac and I believe foobar and jriver can also convert DSD files as well.
http://www.sonore.us/dsd2flac.html
Chrus
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Thank you for the link.
I was looking more for a realtime conversion process, which may not be possible with this configuration. JRiver will do it on the fly but I don't know if there's any way to stream that processed signal to the Pi. And again, Roon is an option at some point down the road but I'm looking for something right now.
With over 1TB worth of SACD rips, converting and storing a duplicate library in PCM versions doesn't seem attractive. But maybe it's the only way.
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HELP!! As recently as 2 AM PST, Feb 23, 2018, my BDP-pi worked perfectly. when I tried it twelve hours later, all I got was distortion, a sort of ugly white noise. I haven't changed anything. Is there a setting in "dashboard" that I should be looking at?
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SOLVED: It was my DAC. I shut it down and restarted it, and everything is OK now.
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SOLVED: It was my DAC. I shut it down and restarted it, and everything is OK now.
Good news!
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Thank you for the link.
I was looking more for a realtime conversion process, which may not be possible with this configuration. JRiver will do it on the fly but I don't know if there's any way to stream that processed signal to the Pi. And again, Roon is an option at some point down the road but I'm looking for something right now.
With over 1TB worth of SACD rips, converting and storing a duplicate library in PCM versions doesn't seem attractive. But maybe it's the only way.
If I recall correctly, JRiver will stream output as a DLNA server. Go into your BDP-Pi and select the DLNA Renderer from the Services tab at the bottom of the main Dashboard page.
Please let us know if this works for you... I am curious, myself.
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Hi. Question-could I connect 2 DACs to the Pi or BDP2 simultaneously? One for stereo, the other for my headphone rig? Presently, that is how I am set up. Trying to decide on a new Pi or used BDP2. Thanks.
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Hi. Question-could I connect 2 DACs to the Pi or BDP2 simultaneously? One for stereo, the other for my headphone rig? Presently, that is how I am set up. Trying to decide on a new Pi or used BDP2. Thanks.
What style of connection are you using with the DACs and your current source? Or COAX, USB, etc
And do you have any interest in DAD playback?
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Using a BUC1 > AES3 out to my stereo DAC and straight USB into my HP DAC. Sorry, did you mean DSD? If you did, then the answer is I do with my HPs, but not with my stereo, since I have to use the BUC1 to feed a 25' run of AES3 cable into DAC.
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Using a BUC1 > AES3 out to my stereo DAC and straight USB into my HP DAC. Sorry, did you mean DSD? If you did, then the answer is I do with my HPs, but not with my stereo, since I have to use the BUC1 to feed a 25' run of AES3 cable into DAC.
Go with the bdp-2
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Is the BDP-Pi software download upgradable?
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Hi Matthew,
Yes the firmware for the BDP-Pi is upgradable, please see the manic moose manual
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Chris
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Hi Matthew,
Yes the firmware for the BDP-Pi is upgradable, please see the manic moose manual
http://support.bryston.com/downloads/BDP/Manic%20Moose%20Manual.pdf
Chris
Thanks!
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Apologies if this has been addressed already; recommendations for wifi dongle for the BDP-Pi so I don't have to punch a ton of holes in the walls of my house? Right now running Netgear powerline which is spotty, and my dogs keep chewing through the ethernet cables. TIA.
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Apologies if this has been addressed already; recommendations for wifi dongle for the BDP-Pi so I don't have to punch a ton of holes in the walls of my house? Right now running Netgear powerline which is spotty, and my dogs keep chewing through the ethernet cables. TIA.
You can use Bryston's own dongle wireless adapter of course. I bought a Panda Wireless Pau07 for around $20 for use with my BDP-1. It works flawlessly. It has both 2.4 and 5 Ghz support. Very responsive, stable, and hasn't overheated in my setup. I've used it for weeks at a time without turning the unit off. You can even use it with things like Audioquest Jitterbug and it will work fine.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=180993)
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Thanks, I'll try it out.
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Hi guys,
I recently got my BDP-Pi setup and running, but can't get the VU meter display to function. I can get the album art to display, but no VU meters. I'm using the Pi as a Roon player (not connected with USB, I use the SPDIF output). Any ideas?
Thanks!
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Hi guys,
I recently got my BDP-Pi setup and running, but can't get the VU meter display to function. I can get the album art to display, but no VU meters. I'm using the Pi as a Roon player (not connected with USB, I use the SPDIF output). Any ideas?
Thanks!
Sorry, not currently supported
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Sorry, not currently supported
Which part -- the VU meter display or Roon in conjunction with the VU meter display? The VU meter is described in the manual.
Edited to add: Cover art and VU meter functions work fine on my BDP-pi. But I don't use Roon.
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Which part -- the VU meter display or Roon in conjunction with the VU meter display? The VU meter is described in the manual.
Edited to add: Cover art and VU meter functions work fine on my BDP-pi. But I don't use Roon.
HI
The VU meter is no longer supported.
james
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Sorry, the VU meter is only available to MPD as only MPD is configured to send pi_phy (the program that handles the BDP-Pi's display and buttons) the needed data as MPD can output to multiple sources simultaneously. We may alter this in future firmware releases, but it would need to be in a way that wouldn't compromise sound quality.
Chris
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HI
The VU meter is no longer supported.
james
The VU meter is highly uninformative.
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The VU meter is highly uninformative.
The tiny little screen itself is highly uninformative, but I was thinking / hoping the VU meter display would be a fun little option to use (if it actually worked along with Roon :( , but disappointingly no success).
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My music is mostly classical, with lots of dynamic contrast. The VU bars have no scale, so there's no way you can easily compare the displayed values. I understand that the scale isn't linear, but it seemed to me that there wasn't much difference between the loudest and softest passages. It's cute, not useful.
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My music is mostly classical, with lots of dynamic contrast. The VU bars have no scale, so there's no way you can easily compare the displayed values. I understand that the scale isn't linear, but it seemed to me that there wasn't much difference between the loudest and softest passages. It's cute, not useful.
I agree, just thought it would be nice if the feature actually worked for this (and all) other applications that it is built around, so it could be utilized and played with.
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I have a question for Mr. Tanner or Unincognito. The display on the LCD panel blacks out after 60 sec. At least that's what it's doing tonight. In the very recent past I've had it where it blacked out after 10 min. I've done something to change it, but I don't know what. What I would like is for it to stay lit 30 min or more. Is there a way to control this? I've looked at the navigation chart on p.7 of the manual, but I don't see a setting for this.
Edited to add: OK, I've found the setting for this. Thanks.
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I've decided to dip my toes into the Bryston BDP waters by trying out a previously owned Pi. I did manage to make a little progress and get it connected wirelessly to my network using an old Asus 801.2g usb adapter, though not reliably (I know it's not officially supported so that's ok). It appears to have also recognized the external USB drive I loaded some music on to. However, I can't for the life of me figure out how to get it to start up using the MPD playback instead of Roon. I can't seem to locate the setting to do this. I can go in and change the playback to MPD via the web interface, but when I reboot, it returns to Roon. It's a newbie question, I know, but any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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I don't know if this has anything to do with your problem. I've never tried Roon. In fact, I'm not clear why I would want it. But when I got my BDP-pi back in early January, I couldn't get sound out of it. I take that back -- I had one .flac download that did, in fact, give me clearly audible (and very good!) sound. But nothing else would play. I could see the time tick off in the Magic Moose app, and I could see the track listings, but there was no sound. I was on the verge of sending the BDP-pi back to Audio Advisor. But I decided to take one last look at the Manic Moose dashboard settings. Under "Audio Devices" there was a check box for "HiFi Berry Digi" that was blank. I clicked on it. Music!
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But I decided to take one last look at the Manic Moose dashboard settings. Under "Audio Devices" there was a check box for "HiFi Berry Digi" that was blank. I clicked on it. Music!
Thanks. I am managing to get music out of it after I switch the playback to MPD. It's just kind of odd that when I reboot it I see "Roon" on the screen and need to use the web interface to change to MPD. Not that it's particularly convenient, but it does preclude me from using the front panels buttons to play back music from an attached storage device.
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Is this an alternative to the MicroRendu if I want to use Audirvana as my control software? In other words, will Audirvana "see" the BDP-pi as a source?
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Beautiful and well thought out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ5pHFnPLMk
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Hey James,
Please allow me a more fundamental question, I hope you won't take bad on me:
Ive been playing with Pi's at the place here, in several setups and use-cases. A few in Home automation systems, Home-Assistant to be precise, and, I must confess, 2 in HifiBerry setups for throwing a garden party .... (sorry...)
The HifiBerry's never got to work, and were replaced twice. In the first system the Pi board was faulty, the second try made the HifiBerry go down on 1 channel. Within a few hours...
The Home-Assistant setups are rather fragile too, especially in warmer situations as I have been able to establish. We have a rather warm summer, and 1 of the Pi's is installed in the attic which is up to 40 degrees celsius these days. Had to install heat sinks on the processor and lan connector for it to not stop functioning (processor temp over 80 degrees C).
Having a more than simple setup asks for a more robust computer for Home-Assistant than the Pi, which runs into frequent timing issues along the way.
That being the case, I was wondering how Bryston could reliably make the BDP-Pi and BryFi, based on these same boards (I've tested BDP3 and 3+ now, so not the 2). You must have changed a great deal on those boards.
Not talking about the power supply here, Ive had dedicated ones too, especially for the HifiBerry setup.
Again, please don't take this as critique of any kind, Im simply wondering how this educational board, which it obviously is, can form a safe base for professional products like yours and other industry leading manufacturers.
Thanks,
Marius
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Hi Marius
Sorry you have had issues but we have sold hundreds of the Pi and BryFi products and this is the first I have heard of any heat issues.
james
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Hi Marius
Sorry you have had issues but we have sold hundreds of the Pi and BryFi products and this is the first I have heard of any heat issues.
james
glad to hear James, must be your implementation of the Pi that makes it work as desired. Didn't expect anything less :thumb:
using it plain out of the box, it takes nothing (well 11% processor usage...) to get the processor up to 60 degrees Celsius , so doing a lot of calculations might easily cause heating up, especially when in a warmer surrounding.
cheers,
Marius
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How do you get the album art to show on the display when using Tidal?
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Hi Guys,
I know this is an old thread but I thought I'd ask some questions about the Bryston BDP-PI. I currently use a Bryston BDP 1 but it just seems so slow loading my albums and I can't get Roon to work reliably now.
I have the opportunity to buy a good condition secondhand BDP-PI and I'd like to know whether it is Roon compatible or as alternative will it work with Tidal? Tidal is the streaming platform that I use and I was only using Roon with my BDP1 as it worked reliably with it.
Thanks for any information you can give me.
Cheers Rod
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I don't know if this answers any of your concerns. I've owned a BDP-pi since Jan 2018. My ripped music collection is mostly classical music. I've also bought a lot of downloads, mostly from Presto Classical UK. There are 56,000+ files ("songs" in pop/rock parlance) and cover art JPEGs. These files are on a Western Digital Passport hard-disk drive. I have no complaints about the speed of loading these files. Complete symphonies & operas -- they load within a second, essentially instantly. I also use QOBUZ. Files load quickly. I know nothing about TIDAL. I did have a problem a couple of years ago with Manic Moose (the software application), but that turned out to be due to a faulty microSD card. Chris was able to contact my BDP-pi through the internet to diagnose the problem. My only complaint about that episode is that I had to buy my own replacement microSD card. Bryston was either unwilling or unable to provide a replacement, which I thought they might be willing to do under the BDP-pi's warranty. This was near the beginning of the pandemic chaos. Sound quality is essentially perfect in my opinion. I've never needed or wanted to play DSD files, which the BDP-pi can't play.
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I been running a Pi and Bot (BOT does not work now) for several years streaming Qobuz. I only have a few hundred files on attached storage and it loads them fine. The Pi primary duties now are an end point for ROON which it does reliably. As a matter of fact IMO it makes a great endpoint.
The major disappointment is the vaunted Bryston support which , for me, is now not existent. :dunno:
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Hi,
I'll give it a go just agreed to pay the price as its only $700 Australian. Its 1/3 of the price and its a bargain.
Cheers Rod
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Hi Guys,
I received the Bryston BDP Pi and it works great It had the latest software upgrade so its all good. Currently, using it as a Roon endpoint with tidal and it is so much quicker than my older Bryston BDP1.
I'm using a coaxial digital cable at the moment but I'm wondering whether a usb cable makes any difference at all?
Thanks for your help.
Regards Rod
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Hi,
Well it was short lived as the Bryston BDP PI stopped working after a day or so and its been inactive for over a year. I've had a few suggestions on how to remedy the streamer but in the end I took it to a local dealer. The dealer put in a new SD card and flashed the zip file and they got it Bryston BDP PI working for me. I then had a problem with connecting it to my Wyred 4 Sound dac as it didn't work with the usb cable. I'm not sure if it is the Bryston or Dac. In any case its now working using a digital cable and sounds fabulous. I had it on for 20 minutes or so and a neighbour complained to me how loud the music was lol.
I'd definitely buy a Byrston Dac in the future.
Cheers Rod
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long live Pi
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Hello Rod-
I am not sure if this will solve your USB issue but...
I remember 7 / 8 or so years ago a Wired 4 Sound product was having a USB problem. It turned out to be the audiophile cable as it was not USB 2 standard compliant.
Giving a generic USB 2.0 (printer etc) a try might be worth a try.
John
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Hi John,
I'll try it thanks for the advice and I'll try swapping the usb cable with a generic one. I'm just glad I got the Bryston BDP PI working as it does sound very nice in my system. It just gives me another option to listen to a wider range of music.
Cheers Rod