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Title: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 27 Jun 2008, 02:54 am
Hi Everyone, I'm back after a long absence on AudioCircle, and as a way to make a contribution right off the bat, here is a list I put together of some of the great sets of classical music out there with an eye toward sound quality, modern performances, and great interpretations.


Baroque (Pre-Classical)
This is music that uses a lot of counterpoint:

Bach Solo Cello Suites - Kirshbaum playing (http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Suites-Kirshbaum-Johann-Sebastian/dp/B000026CIB/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1214533917&sr=1-1)
Yes, I could have put Rostropovich, Yo-Yo Ma, Fournier, or Casals here, but the first two are less compelling interpretations than the relatively unknown Kirshbaum, and the latter 2 are let down by less than stellar recordings.

Bach - Brandenbug Concerto's and Violin Concerto's conducted by Rees (http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Brandenburg-Concertos-Violin/dp/B000006322/ref=sr_1_8/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188071429&sr=1-8)
Tons of great recordings of these works, others I like are Il Giardino Armonico and the Benjamin Britten classic set.  But the Italians are too wild, and Britten's recordings are too old to be primary rec's.

Bach - Solo Violin - Rachel Podger playing (http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Complete-Sonatas-Partitas-Violin/dp/B00006JQU1/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1214533849&sr=1-1)
Again, lots of great recordings of these works, but Podger has a gracefulness and ease that is missing in many recordings, plus she has much better sound quality than Milstein, Grumuiaux, Szerying, to name a few other recordings I listen to regularly.

Bach - Goldberg Variations - performed by Hewitt (http://www.amazon.com/Goldberg-Variations-J-S-Bach/dp/B00004S3B4/ref=sr_1_8/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188071612&sr=1-8)
Ah, what can I say, I love Hewitt's recordings of Bach.  Great sound quality, but even more important, she has the ability to sound like 3 separate musicians playing together.  Most other pianists just sound like they are one person playing 3 parts (including the revered Glenn Gould).  Snap up ALL of her Bach recordings.


Bach - Well Tempered Clavier - performed by Hewitt (http://www.amazon.com/Bach-Well-Tempered-Clavier-book-1/dp/B00000DG23/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188071612&sr=1-2)

Vivaldi - The Four Seasons - Conducted by Alessandrini and the Concerto Italiano (http://www.amazon.com/Vivaldi-Quattro-Stagioni-bonus-Portrait/dp/B00006IWQR/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1263802406&sr=1-6)
One of the works MOST in need of an incredible, vivacious performance and spectacular recording quality, because of all the time it's been used a droning muzak in elevators and on telephone hold-music.  These are red-blooded Italians performing the music of their countryman as though their lives depended on it!

Vivaldi - La Stravaganza - Conducted and performed by Rachel Podger (http://www.amazon.com/Vivaldi-Stravaganza-Antonio/dp/B00008IUW2/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1214533694&sr=8-1)

Classical
This is music that is almost always easy on the ear, with great melody assuming a dominant role, as opposed to the dominance of counterpoint in the pre-classical era. 

Haydn - Paris Symphonies - Conducted by Harnoncourt (http://www.amazon.com/Haydn-Paris-Symphonies-Nos-82-87/dp/B0007OP69E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262491709&sr=1-1)
Harnoncourt is the reference in this music, and benefits from excellent modern sound.  If you think of Haydn as staid and a bit boring, you need to hear this set first.

Haydn - London Symphonies - Conducted by Harnoncourt (http://www.amazon.com/Haydn-Symphonies-93-104-Box-Set/dp/B000FO6KVY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262491709&sr=1-2)
After you are fully acquainted with the Paris symphonies above, only then should you proceed to the Londons.  This music is less adventurous than the Paris ones, but Harnoncourt makes the most of them.

Haydn - Piano Sonatas - Played by Hamelin (http://www.amazon.com/Haydn-Piano-Sonatas-Franz-Joseph/dp/B000N2H832/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1252354162&sr=8-7)
Who would have thought that a modernist like Hamlin would make such an amazing set of Haydn recordings? 

Haydn - Piano Sonatas part 2 - Played by Hamelin (http://www.amazon.com/Haydn-Piano-Sonatas-Marc-Andre-Hamelin/dp/B002D0WDRS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262491884&sr=1-1)
More Haydn goodness - this set displaces easily the McCabe and Schiff recordings that are also readily available.

Mozart Piano Concerto 12 and 17 - performed by Brendel and conducted by Mackerras (http://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Piano-Concertos-K414-K453/dp/B000BI0PEM/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262491966&sr=1-1)
Mackerras and Brendel are one of those rare matches of soloist and conductor where each inspires the other to greater heights.  These are recordings for the ages, snap them up (all of them) post haste!

Mozart Piano Concerto 22 and 27 - performed by Brendel and conducted by Mackerras (http://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Piano-Concertos-Nos-22/dp/B00005IB5W/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262491966&sr=1-2)

Mozart Piano Concerto 20 and 24 - performed by Brendel and conducted by Mackerras (http://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Piano-Concertos-K466-491/dp/B00002R2SR/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262491966&sr=1-3)

Mozart Symphonies - conducted by Mackerras with the Scottish Chamber Orchestra (http://www.amazon.com/Mozart-Symphonies-38-Through-41/dp/B0011J2R0K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1214533990&sr=1-1)
Mackerras and Mozart - this most recent recording sounds GREAT and the performances are class leading.  Exciting, refined, passionate - everything that Mozart should be.

Mozart Wind Concerto's - performed by Orpheus Chamber Orchestra (http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Wind-Concertos-Mozart/dp/B000065TV1/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188073592&sr=1-1)
The Orpheus do not have a conductor, and their resulting sound may lack some "personality" that a big name conductor might bring, but these recordings are better than almost any others I can think of. 

Beethoven
Beethoven is his own category because he truly straddles the classical and romantic eras in almost equal measure.  Some say he was the first Romantic, others say he was the last of the Classicists. 

Beethoven Piano Concertos 3 and 4 - performed by Bronfmann conducted by Zinman (http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Piano-Concertos-Ludwig-van/dp/B000AMPZNU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262492215&sr=1-1)
I have a TON of recordings of Beethoven's piano concertos.  Many of them are great (such as Pollini/Abbado, Fleisher/Szell, Kempff/Leitner) but I love this one for it's propulsion, intensity, take-no-prisoners approach.  And of course great sound quality.

Beethoven Piano Concerto 5 - performed by Bronfmann conducted by Zinman (http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Piano-Concerto-No-5/dp/B000J3EBLC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262492215&sr=1-3)


Beethoven Symphonies- conducted by Mackerras with Scottish Chamber Orchestra (http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Symphonies-Live-Edinburgh-Festival/dp/B000TT1QLY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262492340&sr=1-1)
I'm not sure what happened when Mackerras turned 80, but he went from a good-but-not-great conductor to one that just spins out gold with every recording.  I'm shocked that this has displaced Szell, Gardiner, Liebowitz, Toscanini, and Karajan to be my reference set.

Beethoven Complete Quartets - performed by the Emerson Quartet (http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-String-Quartets-David-Finckel/dp/B0000041KV/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1214534054&sr=1-1)
A bit of a controversial choice.  Sure, the sound quality is great.  But the Emersons have a speedy, furious approach to these works that not everyone likes.  Personally I love it, and thus recommend it.

Beethoven - Violin Sonatas - performed by Ashkenazy and Perlman (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000041UF/qid=1107494749/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/104-9490063-8625540?v=glance&s=classical)
Good sound from the 70's.  Not as good (in sound quality) as Mutter or Dumay's recent traversals, but in this case the interpretations trump absolute sound quality.  Ashkenazy and Perlman are just on fire in this set.

Beethoven - Piano Sonatas Complete - Performed by Goode (http://www.amazon.com/Beethoven-Complete-Sonatas-Box-Set/dp/B000005J2D/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262492928&sr=1-7)
If you want an excellent, centrist approach to Beethoven in excellent sound, then this is the best choice.  Sure, Kempff is more beautiful, Kovacevich more granitic, Gilels more aristocratic, Arrau more noble, Barenboim more capricious, Richter more god-like, Gulda more fiery, but taken all in all Goode is the best overall introduction to this music.
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 27 Jun 2008, 02:55 am
Romantic
The romantic era still holds melody as supreme, but is much more personal, more emotive, and really expands and/or breaks the classical “rules”.

Brahms - Symphonies - Performed by Dorati (http://www.amazon.com/Brahms-Symphonies-Nos-1-4-Johannes/dp/B0000057NB/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1214534239&sr=1-1) 
Not a modern recording, but no one else comes close to these performances.

Brahms Complete Trio's - performed by Capucons & Angelich Trio (http://www.amazon.com/Brahms-Piano-Trios-Gautier-Capu%C3%A7on/dp/B00014EJ48/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1214534278&sr=1-2)
Finally, someone that doesn't play Brahm's chamber music like he was a decrepit old man.  This is music of youth, passionate and volatile!

Brahms Piano Conceros - Performed by Freire and conducted by Chailly (http://www.amazon.com/Brahms-Piano-Concertos-Nos-Johannes/dp/B000E6TYI4/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262493375&sr=1-4)
Not as searingly intense as Pollini, and not as athletic as Fleisher, this one makes it to the top for it's generally very good performance combined with far greater quality of recorded sound.

Brahms - Violin Concerto - Performed by Hilary Hahn (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005RIN5/qid=1107496002/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-9490063-8625540?v=glance&s=classical)
Hahn is a wunderkind.  How she can have such incredible intelligence and wisdom along side youth is a mystery.  But there it is.  Buy and enjoy.

Brahms - Piano Quartets - performed by Beaux Arts Trio & Trampler (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000041EI/qid=1107496603/sr=2-2/ref=sr_2_2/104-9490063-8625540)
Hey, it's not the newest recording, but it's not bad at all, and will stay at the top until I get my grubby hands on the latest recording from the Capucons.

Bruckner Complete Symphonies - Conducted by Jochum (http://www.amazon.com/Bruckner-Complete-Symphonies-Anton/dp/B00004YA0T/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188074209&sr=1-1)
Good set for those that prefer stop-start Bruckner.  Older recording, and really only rec'd because the Gunter Wand cycle is out of print.

Chopin solo piano - Performed by Pollini (http://www.amazon.com/Chopin-Etudes-Preludes-Polonaises-Fryderyk/dp/B000001GE5/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188074258&sr=1-2)
Not a complete set, and some of the recorded sound is a bit glassy, but Pollini does more to firm up and de-mush Chopins music than anyone. 

Dvorak - Complete Symphonies - Conducted by Kubelik (http://www.amazon.com/Dvor%C3%A1k-Nine-Symphonies-Antonin-Dvorak/dp/B000025802/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188080230&sr=1-2)
The other option for this music is Kertesz, who is also very good, but I like Kubelik's more Brahmsian take on these works.  Good recorded sound, but not quite up the the most modern standards.

Dvorak - Cello Concerto - performed by Queyras (http://www.amazon.com/Dvor%C3%A1k-Cello-Concerto-Jean-Guihen-Queyras/dp/B000B6FAEO/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262493797&sr=1-7)
Fournier is "the man" in this work for me, but it's a pretty old recording, so this is my second choice from a performance standpoint.  But the Harmonia Mundi sound quality is great and modern, so still a winner.

Liszt - Hungarian Rhapsodies and other piano works - performed by Cziffra (http://www.amazon.com/Liszt-Works-Piano-Georges-Cziffra/dp/B00005IA06/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188080373&sr=1-2)
Not the most modern sounding recording, but my god what a display of virtuosity!

Liszt - Years of Pilgrimage - Performed by Lazar Berman (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001GHB/qid=1107496813/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-9490063-8625540)
Same as above - good quality sound, but performances that make those concerns negligible.

Mahler - 9 Symphonies - conducted by Bertini (http://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Symphonies-1-10-Lied-Erde/dp/B000BQ7BX2/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188080497&sr=1-1)
My favorite overall set with modern sound, beating out Chailly and Tilson Thomas (both too slow), Rattle (too erratic), Abbado (good but not great), and Boulez (too cold).

Rachmaninov - Symphonies and Orchestral music - conducted by Ashkenazy (http://www.amazon.com/Rachmaninov-The-Symphonies/dp/B0000042HY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1216693966&sr=1-2)
A toss up between Ashkenazy and Previn.  I went with Ashkenazy for the more interesting performances of Symphony 3 and the Symphonic Dances, and an absolutely amazing performance of Isle of the Dead.

Rachmaninov - Piano Concertos and solo Piano works - performed by Ashkenazy (http://www.amazon.com/Rachmaninov-Piano-Concertos-Sergey/dp/B0000041ML/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188080568&sr=1-2)
Not the most "showy" performances, Ashkenazy is a thoughtful, poetic, passionate performance.  Hough with Litton is a good alternative, more fleet and in digital sound, but I think less depth as well.

Saint Saens - Piano Concertos - Performed by Hough (http://www.amazon.com/Saint-Sa%C3%ABns-Complete-Works-Piano-Orchestra/dp/B00005NUPA/ref=sr_1_1/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188080621&sr=1-1)
Charming music, charmingly performed.  Best sound quality too.

Schubert - Symphonies - performed by Wand (http://www.amazon.com/Franz-Schubert-Symphonies-Rosamunde-G%C3%BCnter/dp/B000063X8P/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1214534768&sr=1-3)
Ah, Schubert's music is so hard to perform well.  Wand gets as close as anyone and gets good sound quality to match.  Harnoncourt is an interesting alternative.  Colin Davis is also OK, but a bit boring.

Schubert - Piano and String Trios - performed by Beaux Arts Trio (http://www.amazon.com/Franz-Schubert-Complete-Bernard-Greenhouse/dp/B00000417B/ref=sr_1_1/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188080689&sr=1-1)
I'm still searching for that "perfect" performance of these pieces.  Till then, this will have to do.  Certainly beats the boring Florestan Trio performances.  And I find Rubinstein's recordings a bit too patrician.

Schubert - Impromptus - performed by Brendel (http://www.amazon.com/Schubert-Complete-Impromptus-Franz/dp/B0000041MS/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188080729&sr=1-1)
Brendel or Perahia, it's a toss up.  Both have very good sound (Perahia a bit better), but there's just something magic in how Brendel performs these pieces.

Schubert - last 4 String Quartets - performed by the Quartetto Italiano (http://www.amazon.com/Schubert-Last-Quartets-Franco-Rossi/dp/B0000041BX/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188080777&sr=1-1) 
Not the newest recording, but performance trumps sound quality concerns.

Schubert - Piano Sonatas - performed by Andsnes (http://www.amazon.com/Schubert-Late-Piano-Sonatas-Franz/dp/B0011UY6HG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1214534838&sr=1-1)
Andsnes has excellent sound quality, and to his credit plays these sonatas more or less straight. 

Schumann Symphonies - conducted by Barenboim (http://www.amazon.com/Schumann-Symphonies-Barenboim-Berlin-Staatskapelle/dp/B00012HQVI/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-2712824-2422206?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188080927&sr=1-1)
I almost never have Barenboim as a first choice in anything.  And he beats out the incredibly good Gardiner set.  That's saying something!

Scriabin - Piano Sonatas - performed by Hamelin (http://www.amazon.com/Scriabin-Complete-Sonatas-Alexander-Nikolayevich/dp/B00000300U/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1262494508&sr=1-2)
Astonishing, jaw-dropping virtuosity in the service of some strange, odd, and beautiful music.

Sibelius Complete Symphonies conducted by Blomstedt (http://www.amazon.com/Sibelius-Symphonies-Blomstedt/dp/B000FOQ1EA/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188093462&sr=8-1)
Treads a middle path between the more "icy" performances of Colin Davis on Philips and the red blooded passion of Maazel.

Sibelius  Violin Concerto - played by Kyung Wha Chung (http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Sibelius-Violin-Concertos-Jean/dp/B000GUJZV4/ref=sr_1_2/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188094096&sr=1-2)
Not the greatest recording quality but the performance makes that a non-concern.  Mutter is a close second here, especially with the very recent recording date.

Tchaikovsky 4 through 6 Symphonies - Mravinsky conducting (http://www.amazon.com/Tchaikovsky-Symphonies-Pathetique-Pyotr-Ilyich/dp/B000001G8B/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188094411&sr=1-2) 
Most people make Tchaikovsky sound like a sad sap manic depressive.  Mravinsky makes him sound like God's fiery vengeance.  Again, performance trumps recording concerns.

Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto 1 - performed by Argerich, conducted by Dutoit (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000001G5P/qid=1107497856/sr=2-3/ref=sr_2_3/104-9490063-8625540)
Argerich is a lioness, with lightening bolts shooting from her fingers.  No recording captures that as much as this one does.

Wagner - "The Ring" - conducted by Solti (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000042H4/qid=1107498070/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-9490063-8625540?v=glance&s=classical)
This might be displaced by Barenboims much more recent set, if/when I get a chance to hear it.
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 27 Jun 2008, 02:55 am
Impressionism
From a construction standpoint, this music is late-Romantic, but the use of harmony is unique, so they get their own category as well.  For this list the impressionists are restricted to Debussy and Ravel:

Debussy & Ravel Orchestral Music - conducted by Martinon (http://www.amazon.com/Debussy-Ravel-Orchestral-Works-Claude/dp/B00006HM8X/ref=sr_1_3/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188094462&sr=1-3)
Boulez and Abbado have better sound quality, but Martinon sounds more "French", and these are very good interpretations. 

Debussy Solo Piano Music - performed by Bavouzet (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_0_10?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=debussy+bavouzet&x=0&y=0&sprefix=debussy+ba)
Paul Jacobs used to be the top performer in this music.  The recent Bavouzet tells just as compelling of a "story" in each piece, and has very good modern sound.

Post Romantic
This music is harmonically and formally more aggressive and more free than the Romantic period.  Things start to get quite a bit more dissonant in this period.

Bartok - 3 Piano Concertos - Performed by Schiff (http://www.amazon.com/Bart%C3%B3k-Piano-Concertos-Nos-1-3/dp/B000000S91/ref=sr_1_1/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188095273&sr=1-1)
This is a more gentle interpretation of Bartok's rocky concertos.  If you want something more diamond-hard, Pollini is a good alternative.

Bartok - Concerto for Orchestra - Reiner Conducting (SACD Hybrid)  (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002TKFQS/qid=1107494286/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/104-9490063-8625540)
This is Bartok's most famous piece, and Reiner gets the Hungarian feel of it just right.  Fischer in more modern sound is a very close second.

Bartok Violin Concerto 2 and Stravinsky Violin Concerto - Mullova playing, Salonen conducting (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000024MOM/qid=1107494111/sr=8-3/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl15/104-9490063-8625540?v=glance&s=music&n=507846)
Mullova is volatile and passionate and makes this music come alive.

Bartok String Quartets - played by the Emerson Quartet (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_m/002-8676928-2354433?initialSearch=1&url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=bartok+emerson&Go.x=0&Go.y=0&Go=Go)
Other performers may get more gypsy or hungarian strands, but the Emersons convey modern angst and anxiety like no one else.

Prokofiev Piano Concertos - Performed by Beroff (http://www.amazon.com/Prokofiev-Concertos-Overture-Hebrew-Themes/dp/B000002S09/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188095407&sr=1-1)
For some reason the French do very well in Prokofiev's music.  I think it's because they pick up on the sardonic humor more than most.

Prokofiev Violin Concertos - performed by Lin (http://www.amazon.com/Stravinsky-Prokofiev-Violin-Concertos-Sergey/dp/B00000296N/ref=sr_1_1/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188096018&sr=1-1)
Lin has the best combination of good clear sound and a very good, non-idiosyncratic performance.

Shostakovich String Quartets - performed by Emerson Quartet (http://www.amazon.com/Shostakovich-String-Quartets-Dmitry/dp/B000F3T7RE/ref=pd_bbs_2/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188096151&sr=1-2)
The Emersons again.  They convey more fire and fury than others in this music.

Shostakovich Symphonies - conducted by Barshai (http://www.amazon.com/Dmitry-Shostakovich-Symphonies-Symphony-Orchestra/dp/B000067F6C/ref=pd_bbs_sr_2/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188096344&sr=1-2)
Not as insanely over the top as Kondrashin, but more involved and committed sounding than Haitink or Jansons.  Perfect for this dark and sometimes twisted music.

Shostakovich - Cello Concertos - performed by Rodin (http://www.amazon.com/Shostakovich-Cello-Concertos-1-2/dp/B000FII2K2/ref=sr_1_1/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188096454&sr=1-1)
Brings out the militancy and mad-house distortions as well as anyone.

Shostakovich - Violin Concertos - performed by Vengerov, conducted by Rostropovich (http://www.amazon.com/Shostakovich-Violin-Concertos-Nos-2/dp/B00006DIC5/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1214535009&sr=1-2)
There are other great performances of these concertos, but the recording quality here trumps.

Stravinsky - Rite of Spring & other Orchestral - conducted by Tilson Thomas (http://www.amazon.com/Stravinsky-Firebird-Spring-Persephone-Francisco/dp/B00000IOCZ/ref=sr_1_1/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188096506&sr=1-1)
Great recording, great performances, what more could you want?

Vaughan Williams - Symphonies - conducted by Haitink (http://www.amazon.com/Vaughan-Williams-Symphonies-Ascending-Bostridge/dp/B0002RUAFQ/ref=sr_1_4/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188096544&sr=1-4)
He's not just a gentle Brit, there's some real passion and intensity to these pieces.  Haitink brings this out without getting in the way.

Walton - Symphonies and Concertos - conducted by Previn (http://www.amazon.com/Walton-Symphonies-Cello-Concerto-etc/dp/B000026BT0/ref=sr_1_6/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188096581&sr=1-6)
Another Brit, and a bit more gnarly than the last.  Previn is a master of this music.


Modern
This music is characterized by almost complete freedom from form, often very dissonant, sometimes minimalist, sometimes uses 12 tone scales, melody is often absent with rhythm and harmonic explorations taking center stage.

John Adams – Earbox (http://www.amazon.com/Earbox-10-CD-Retrospective-Steve-Smith/dp/B00001SID1/sr=8-1/qid=1163118391/ref=sr_1_1/002-9149843-0040069?ie=UTF8&s=music)
Not all of Adams' work is great, but a lot of it is.  Great Nonesuch recording quality, as always.

John Cage – Music for Prepared Piano (http://www.amazon.com/Cage-Sonatas-Interludes-Prepared-Piano/dp/B00000JMYM/sr=1-4/qid=1163118795/ref=sr_1_4/002-9149843-0040069?ie=UTF8&s=music)
dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah-dah

Oh sorry, was listening to some John Cage.....

Kronos Quartet – 10 CD set of modern quartets (http://www.amazon.com/25-Years-Retrospective-Suzanne-Elder/dp/B00000DD9B/sr=1-10/qid=1163118878/ref=sr_1_10/002-9149843-0040069?ie=UTF8&s=music)
The variety of music that the Kronos Quartet performs is astonishing.  I can't guarantee you will like everything here but I'd be very surprise if you didn't find a few things to love.

Ligeti Edition I – String Quartets and Duets (http://www.amazon.com/Gy%C3%83%C2%B6rgy-Ligeti-Quartets-Arditti-Quartet/dp/B0000029OY/sr=1-7/qid=1163118465/ref=sr_1_7/002-9149843-0040069?ie=UTF8&s=music)
Crazy, dissonant, horror movie music.  Kubrick loves this guy, and so do I.

Ligeti Edition III – Piano Music (http://www.amazon.com/Gy%C3%83%C2%B6rgy-Ligeti-Etudes-Ricercata-Pierre-Laurent/dp/B0000029P0/sr=1-2/qid=1163118562/ref=sr_1_2/002-9149843-0040069?ie=UTF8&s=music)

Schnittke - String Quartets - performed by the Kronos Quartet (http://www.amazon.com/Schnittke-Complete-String-Quartets-Alfred/dp/B000006E4L/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-8676928-2354433?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188096633&sr=1-1)
Schnittke is the middle ground between the slightly more conservative Shostakovich and the completely insane sounding Ligeti.  So, if you find Ligeti too crazh, and Shostakovich too tame, the Schnittke is your man.
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 27 Jun 2008, 05:02 pm
No one likes classical?
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: mgalusha on 27 Jun 2008, 05:12 pm
I do and very much appreciate all the effort this must have taken.  :thumb:

mike
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Brad on 27 Jun 2008, 05:40 pm
I'm not a huge classical fan, but will take the time to digest your lists.
I've got quite a bit of classical on vinyl - need to work it into the listening rotation.

BTW, great to see you posting here again Tyson! :thumb: 8) :D
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: fiveoclockfriday on 27 Jun 2008, 05:58 pm
Thanks for the list. I think it really boils down to a couple things. People who are into classical probably saw your post and thought "oh a newbie list, not for me", whereas actual newbies (like myself) saw a huge list with several categories and weren't sure where to really begin.

-Eric
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Russell Dawkins on 27 Jun 2008, 08:11 pm
We just got the Mahler Symphony set by Riccardo Chailly and the Concertgebouw Orchestra for $45  in Canada and are loving the sound and performances, both.
I see at Amazon it's considerably more money:
http://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Symphonies-Peter-Mattei/dp/B00092ZALS

It's a 12 disc set covering 10 Symphonies.

My son is 14 and plays the french horn and bass (stand up and electric) and is really blown away by the writing.
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: goldlizsts on 27 Jun 2008, 08:25 pm
No one likes classical?

Not true.  I prefer classical recordings too.  You didn't expect us to criticize your extensive listing, did you? :thumb:  There are so, so, so many fine recordings out there, so yours is just fine, especially when you said they're (mostly?) budget type? :drool:

We can go on and on talking about a list, and I bet it can grow, and grow, and grow.

However, I have been at A/C here for not too long, it does appear to me that most of the A/C'ers are into jazz and the popular genres more.
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: richidoo on 27 Jun 2008, 09:59 pm
Some nice stuff on there Tyson! I think you touched all the basics - and then some. I look forward to trying some of your recs.
Schnittke Quartets! Wild stuff, I love it.

Aaron Copeland is another easy-to-digest and deeply inspirational composer of historic significance, maybe not of the same stature as most of the composers on your list, maybe so... Modern but very easy to enjoy.

I find that very high resolution speakers and powerful PP tube amplification help me to enjoy classical recordings more than I can with warmer, more "musical" speakers and/or SS amps, which have their advantage playing contemporary popular music. Of course this is a broad statement with exceptions according to taste and budget.

Welcome back to AC!  :D

Rich
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: JoshK on 27 Jun 2008, 10:06 pm
Personally I found your classifications to be most helpful!  Bach, Mozart and Beethoven were pretty much understood but beyond that, this helps categorize styles and helps me figure out correlations between what I like and categories.   :thumb:
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: PeteG on 27 Jun 2008, 10:44 pm
My classical collection has been lacking for awhile, I can use this to jump start it again. 
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 27 Jun 2008, 10:58 pm
Thanks for the warm welcome back.  I figured I'd make a big post in music, since that's what it's all about :D

As noted, the list is hardly comprehensive and more composers and/or different recordings for the ones listed are more than welcome! 

Russell,
I have that Chailly set, it's a bit slower in interpretation, but the recorded sound quality is possibly even better than Bertini, who also has great sound.  Mahler, nothing really gets the blood going quite like Mahler!

Rich,
True, Copland is a giant, but if I'd put him on there I'd have felt compelled to include others like Biber, Bizet, Ives, Janacek, Grieg, and a whole host of others that really deserve to be there.  But the list is too long for a single post already! 

I've tried to focus on performances that are more in the young, vital, and intense mold, rather than the "grandiose" and/or slow and profound tradition.  And of course good sound quality is a must.  8)

Brad, JoshK, PeteG, Mike, it's great to see some old friends still around here, I missed this place.
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: lonewolfny42 on 28 Jun 2008, 03:18 am
Nice work Tyson...good to see you posting again....and hope your feeling better. :thumb:
Your old thread really needed an update...most of the links were lost when Tower Records went out.

Happy listening.... :beer:

                         Chris
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: rpf on 28 Jun 2008, 03:24 am
A nice introductory list.  :thumb:

A few additional Basic Library Recommendations and alternate preferences of mine (trying to stay with inexpensive items). In place of individual links, for which I don't have the time, I would suggest the following good sources for classical music:
www.hbdirect.com/
www.mdt.co.uk/MDTSite/pages/home/default.asp
www.arkivmusic.com/classical/main.jsp


Baroque

Bach - Orchestral Suites           - Koopman, Amsterdam Baroque - DHM (period instruments)
Bach - Brandenburg Concertos - Koopman, Amsterdam Baroque - Erato
Bach - Violin Concertos - Kremer, ASMF - Philips
Bach - Cello Suites - Ma - Sony


Vivaldi - Il Cimento dell'armonia e dell'inventione (includes the Four Seasons) - Biondi, L'Europa Galante (period instruments)  - Virgin
Vivaldi - Four Seasons (modern instruments) - Shaham, Orpheus CO - DG  
Vivaldi - La Cetra, L'Estro Harmonico, and La Stravaganza (separate sets - modern instruments) - Marriner, ASMF - Decca
Vivaldi - Cello Concerti - Wallfisch, London Sinfonia - Naxos

Handel - Music For The Royal Fireworks and Water Music - Marriner, ASMF - Decca
Handel - Concerti Grossi Op. 6 - Orpheus CO - DG


Classical

Boccherini - Guitar Quintets - Romero, ASMF CE - Philips

Haydn - String Quartets (esp. Op. 33, 50, and 76) - Kodaly Qt. - Naxos (budget recommendation - the best versions are by the Lindsay and Festetics Qts.)

Mozart - String Quartets (14-23, esp. 14-19; 1-13 are very light) - Qt. Italiano - Philips or Berg Qt. - EMI
Mozart - Piano Concertos - Ashkenazy, Philharmonia - London (more consistent than the Brendel/Marriner)
Mozart - Symphonies (21-41) - Krips, Concertgebouw - Decca (the later ones sound best to me with a full orchestra)
Mozart - Violin Concertos - Frank, Zurich Tonhalle - Arte Nova

Beethoven

I agree that he is in his own category, however, as I love his work so much, I must take exception  :wink:  to most of the initial recommendations, esp. for a beginner.

Piano Concertos - Kempff - Leitner - DG or Fleischer, Szell - Sony (there is not a uniformally great set but I find Pollini's recordings to be very cold - the Brendel/Rattle/VPO might be a contender: haven't heard it yet).

Symphonies - Wand, NDR - RCA (as with the Piano Concertos, no one gets all of them right but this is the most consistent set I've heard - only No. 3 fails and he re-did that in a great live recording the next year). Except for Nos. 1 and 2, I think all of the Symphonies work much better with a full orchestra and most of the Period Instruments groups sound thin, harsh and driven to me. I do like Norrington's Nos. 2, 3, and 8 however.

Complete St. Qts. - Tokyo Qt. - RCA or Qt. Italiano - Philips (budget) are my favorites and make these works more accessible than the more intense Emerson (on recordings anyway - I once heard the Emerson do a beautifully phrased live rendition of the ethereal Op. 132)

Violin Sonatas - Haskil/Grummiaux - Philips (well recorded budget set played as a true partnership  - Ashkenazy/Perlman sound like the two superstar soloists they are). The single (mid-price) disc of Rubinstein/Szernyg is needed as a supplement as they do much more vibrant renditions of the Spring and Kreutzer Sonatas.

Cello Sonatas - Wispelway/Lazic - Channel Classics (superbly recorded and played)

Piano Sonatas - The Kempff is a great choice, as is the R. Goode on Nonesuch.


I'll try to follow up with some more tomorrow.

Rob






Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Randy on 1 Jul 2008, 05:57 am
Tyson, your Rachmaninoff symphonies link takes me to the Sibelius violin concerto.  Rob, how can you stand Marriner conducting Handel or anything else for that matter? He is deadly dull.  About the only piece I like him in is Tchaikovsky's Serenade for Strings.  For the Fireworks, try the King's Consort or Pinnock;  for Water Music, Pinnock again or Gardiner.
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: rpf on 3 Jul 2008, 03:55 pm
Tyson, your Rachmaninoff symphonies link takes me to the Sibelius violin concerto.  Rob, how can you stand Marriner conducting Handel or anything else for that matter? He is deadly dull.  About the only piece I like him in is Tchaikovsky's Serenade for Strings.  For the Fireworks, try the King's Consort or Pinnock;  for Water Music, Pinnock again or Gardiner.

Marriner can be dull but he can also, particularly in his earlier recordings, be sensitive and well balanced. Which is how I find the discs cited above. The Decca Handel is stately and grand; appropriate for the music I think. However, I like varying styles in Classical music so I enjoy the quicker, lighter toned Pinnock you referenced and, in Vivaldi, groups like L'Europa Galante and Il Giardino Armonico as well .

If you like Marriner in the Serenade for Strings, you might also enjoy his conducting of Tchaikovsky's Suites For Orchestra on Capriccio.
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: timind on 22 Jul 2008, 02:23 am
I have very limited experience with classical. Although when it's time to paint I listen to Mozart or Bach. I mean painting as custodial work on the house, not the artistic kind.
Anyway, I wanted to post a thanks for the list. I'm going to try a few.
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 22 Jul 2008, 02:32 am
Rachmaninov Symphonies link is now fixed, not sure what happened, sorry about that.
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: ArthurDent on 22 Jul 2008, 04:17 am
Tyson -

Thanks for the list, am long overdue to expand the classical portion of my library. No small task compiling all that, as others have noted it will take a while to assimilate.

A love for classical music, fine scotch, & really good 'toons, you are obviously a man of refinement & taste.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 22 Jul 2008, 04:21 am
Tyson -

Thanks for the list, am long overdue to expand the classical portion of my library. No small task compiling all that, as others have noted it will take a while to assimilate.

A love for classical music, fine scotch, & really good 'toons, you are obviously a man of refinement & taste.  :thumb:

I tip my glass of Cask Strength Laphroaig to you, sir!
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: tanchiro58 on 22 Jul 2008, 05:09 am
Hi Tyson,

Thank you very much to your effort putting up the lists of all well known Symphonic Orchestra and popular conductors. For now on I will follow your lists what I am interested in listening to since some I have known and some I have not.

I appreciate your times.
Tan
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: jimdgoulding on 12 Jun 2009, 04:10 pm
I have a recommendation and I'm guessing that this topic is the place.  Howard Hanson Symphony no.3/Elegy/Lament for Beowolf (Mercury Living Presence).  Deep feeling, somber but beautiful music.  The large male and female chorus on Beowolf is one of the best sounding known to me.  Mercury used a three microphone technique and it works wonderfully.  I'd say this is a must have work of art.

Trumpets and flutes could sound a little shrill on climaxes until I changed IC's recently.  Now it sounds softer but more detailed and extended.  And beautiful. 
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: jimdgoulding on 18 Jul 2009, 06:57 am
Hi Tyson,

Thank you very much to your effort putting up the lists of all well known Symphonic Orchestra and popular conductors. For now on I will follow your lists what I am interested in listening to since some I have known and some I have not.

I appreciate your times.
Tan
Tan-  Your avatar just keeps on giving.  Tickles me everytime I see it.  Dude, that's some kind of gallery you got!
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Mortsnets on 25 Jul 2009, 09:15 pm
Thanks for the recommendations!  Are they available on CD and LP?
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: 95Dyna on 3 Nov 2009, 08:41 pm
No one likes classical?

Hi Tyson,

Great list.  I have many of the Classical, Romantic, Baroque listings by other performers.  I very much agree that Beethoven is in a category by himself.  His quartets, especially the late quartets 12-16 are otherworldly.  I just bought an Esoteric X-05 and am looking forward to replacing some 80's era CD's with SACD's or well engineered CD's and will start with some of my Beethoven favorites.

Bill
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Scottdazzle on 3 Nov 2009, 10:33 pm
If you're inclined to more modern and contemporary sounding classical music I recommend theses:

Fratres by Arvo Part
Music for 18 Musicians by Steve Reich
Harmonielehre by John Adams
Adagio for Strings by Samuel Barber
Symphony 5 by Sergei Prokofiev
Symphony 5 and 7 by Dmitri SHostakovich
Symphony 5 by Carl Nielsen

I think they are all available on budget label recordings if you don't want to risk much $$$.

Happy listening!
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Browntrout on 9 Nov 2009, 09:59 am
Hello Tyson. I ahve a recomendation for you, it is modern, and was commsioned by Classic FM (a national radio station here) from a composer called Joby Talbot and he was tasked with producing a peice each month for twelve months with strict deadlines.
  It is called 'Once Around the Sun' and is lovely, my favorite is November which is a soaring sad sweet violin piece (I used to play).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Around_the_Sun (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Once_Around_the_Sun)

Here you can listen to it by clicking on the little 'play' icons down the left side....
http://www.last.fm/music/Joby+Talbot/Once+Around+The+Sun (http://www.last.fm/music/Joby+Talbot/Once+Around+The+Sun)

Hope you enjoy (even though all the feeling is missing due to it being computer based :wink:)
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 3 Jan 2010, 05:02 am
I've re-updated this list to move it away from "bargain" recommendations and have a greater focus on sound quality, since this is an audiophile forum ;)
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: TRM on 3 Jan 2010, 10:16 pm
thanks, really great thread that I come back to regularly
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: etcarroll on 18 Jan 2010, 03:10 am
Great thread, as a classical noob just used it to begin my collection. Grabbed about 15 titles, mostly from EMI Classics label.

Got a few disks of Beethoven Symphonies with O. Klemperer as conductor.

Then saw today that Philly Orchestra is presenting Beethoven's Fifth in 2 weeks, so bought a ticket to get a feel for how classical should sound when 'live'.
Title: Re: Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 18 Jan 2010, 05:55 am
Classical music is amazing when you hear it live!  Sit close, if you can, the passion, intensity, dynamics, and tone comes through like nothing you've ever heard.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: etcarroll on 18 Jan 2010, 05:07 pm
Oh - didn't think it would be wise to get to close, I grabbed a seat in first balcony, first row of it, middle section, so looking directly at the stage.

Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: scp2 on 18 Jan 2010, 06:50 pm
etcarrol

I would be inclined to sit back a little myself...but I am a newbie as well. I recently attended a chamber orchestra and sat in the second row and as underwelmed by the harmonics. I noticed when I bought the tickets most of the tics in the center of the hall sold first. I know chamber is different...so I will be interested to hear your experince, we are going to the symphony next.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 18 Jan 2010, 07:54 pm
Well, there's 2 schools of though on listening to an orchestra - the dominant school of thought says to set a bit back because you can hear the "hall acoustics" better, and you'll hear a more blended sound.  Most classical music listeners would say that's best.  I however prefer the greater separation and spatial information you get by sitting closer.  Sitting back is more beautiful, sitting closer is more exciting.  Just depends on what you like best...
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: rajacat on 18 Jan 2010, 08:37 pm
Tyson,

Do you have a favorite Respighi recording in particular The Pines of Rome and The Fountains of Rome? I've been listening to the Dutoit version and I find the sound quality to be quite good.

In addition, what are your favorite Mussorgsky performances?

-Roy
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 18 Jan 2010, 09:08 pm
I don't listen to Pines of Rome much, but the Mussorgsky by Reiner is spectacular.  The latest Paavo Jarvi recording has amazing sound quality, but the performance is not as good as Reiner.  On piano, I like Kissin's recent recording.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: rajacat on 18 Jan 2010, 09:24 pm
Thanks. :)
I prefer Pictures at an Exhibition performed on piano to the orchestral versions I've heard.

One version of Pictures at an Exhibition performed and arranged by Kazuhito Yamashita for classical guitar may upset the purists but it's a very entertaining and heroic effort.



-Roy
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: geezer on 18 Jan 2010, 09:40 pm
I have only one quibble with your list: I'm not familiar with Kirshbaum, but I think the recording of the Bach solo suites for cello done by Janos Starker beats the others you listed.

And why did you not have anything by Glass? Is it because you hate his stuff as much as I do?
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 18 Jan 2010, 11:42 pm
Starker is very good, but his best recording of the suites is pretty old and I'm trying to keep it to more recent, very high quality recorded sound.  If we include historical performances, then I'd place Starker second, after Fournier, but ahead of Casals, Rostropovich, Schiff, Whispelwey, and Ma.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 18 Jan 2010, 11:43 pm
Thanks. :)
I prefer Pictures at an Exhibition performed on piano to the orchestral versions I've heard.

One version of Pictures at an Exhibition performed and arranged by Kazuhito Yamashita for classical guitar may upset the purists but it's a very entertaining and heroic effort.



-Roy

Pictures on guitar?  Wow, that must be something to hear, it seems hard enough to play it with two hands at the piano.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: no1maestro on 19 Jan 2010, 12:29 am
Tyson,

I am a recent member here and was not familiar with your name or your research. Let me thank you for putting in the effort and hours it must have taken.

I have a couple of ideas and additions for you to consider. First, I would like to see a little more from the English composers and some attention to some of Hanson's work such as the Second Symphony and the music from Merry Mount; two of my favorites with many versions out there to choose from.

Secondly, might I suggest including wind ensemble recordings in your recommendations such as Eastman Wind Ensemble and the many other fine wind groups conducted by Fennell, There is a world of fine music for this type of group.

I look forward to catching up with your posts along with others in here. Keep up the good work and don't let mine or other suggestions deter you. Thanks!
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: DBB on 22 Jan 2010, 01:12 am
My first visit here and my first post. You went to a lot of work to create this list Tyson. Thank you. I am a big classical fan, and have been for years. I think your recommendations are interesting but heavily skewed to sound quality and pretty much omit many of the best main stream conductors of the 20th Century. So from a performance point of view, I would advise a novice to look at performances by Bernstein, Walter, Horenstein, Barbiroli, Kleiber, Szell to name just a few.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: roymail on 20 Feb 2010, 03:18 am
Tyson, thank you for a most helpful post.  I love string quartets and very much enjoy the Emersons and Cleveland quartets.

Lots of other very helpful information along with the links, too.  Great stuff!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: myview on 20 Feb 2010, 04:16 am
Hi Tyson and the rest of us,

This is a great post.  I am a great classical music fan and have been since I was little.  In terms of sonics, I would say that titles from the Reference Recordings (with Keith Johnson as the recording engineer) are generally superb.  The performances are not the greatest admittedly but I keep coming back to them.  It's a pity that many great performers/conductors/orchestras continue to record for the major labels and some of these productions really do not sound as good as they should.

For older recordings (say late 50s to late 60s) but with quite good (sometimes even splendid) sonics, I go for recordings made by the late engineer Kenneth Wilkinson.  Most of these analogue recordings have been made available at some point in time in the mid-price and budget series of DECCA.  Also worth noting are some recordings by him which originally appeared under READERS' DIGEST and had been reissued under CHESKY.  I like the Chopin, Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninov piano concertos played by Earl Wild.  The Tchaoikovsky violin conerto played by Itzhak Perlman in his early days is also very good.  I really like CHESKYbut it seems that it has stopped coming out with new classical titles.

I will be chekcing back this thread for more discussions.

 
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 20 Feb 2010, 04:18 am
Thanks guys, I appreciate the feedback!

DBB,
Originally my list was indeed slanted more toward great performances over great sound quality, but since this is an audiophile forum, I slowly reworked it over time to include more performances with great sound.  But, these are all still excellent performances.  Some of them can compete very nicely with the greats from the past in terms of performance, and IMO, some of them even surpass them.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: etcarroll on 1 Mar 2010, 12:48 am
So I hit the resale shop in Princeton today, grabbed a bunch of Shosty, and a
Telarc release of Brahms - "The Four Symphonies" - caught my eye, marked down to $9.00, so I grabbed it.

I recognized the conductor from this thread, Sir Charles Mackerras with the Scottish Chamber Orchestra.

Any thoughts on this one?
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: roymail on 1 Mar 2010, 02:20 am
I haven't heard it, but on Telarc with Mackerras... should be very good.  Let us know.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: rpf on 1 Mar 2010, 04:18 am
So I hit the resale shop in Princeton today, grabbed a bunch of Shosty, and a
Telarc release of Brahms - "The Four Symphonies" - caught my eye, marked down to $9.00, so I grabbed it.

I recognized the conductor from this thread, Sir Charles Mackerras with the Scottish Chamber Orchestra.

Any thoughts on this one?

It's pretty good overall. Sound quality is fine. It's a relatively small orchestra of course. I like the clarity and transparency this brings but some will want a fuller bodied orchestra. For a first choice, Bohm is my pick.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Feanor on 25 Jul 2010, 11:28 am
I appreciate the discussion and, especially, the recommendations in this thread: my thanks to all.

For my own small contribution I'd like to point people to my personal classical composition recommendations.  Modestly I have to admit these compilations aren't for the mosr part original with me, rather they are condensed from the opinions good many experts whose advice has formed the basis of my own classical listening & learning.

Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: goldlizsts on 25 Jul 2010, 01:32 pm
Hi Tyson and the rest of us,

This is a great post.  I am a great classical music fan and have been since I was little.  In terms of sonics, I would say that titles from the Reference Recordings (with Keith Johnson as the recording engineer) are generally superb.  The performances are not the greatest admittedly but I keep coming back to them.  It's a pity that many great performers/conductors/orchestras continue to record for the major labels and some of these productions really do not sound as good as they should.

For older recordings (say late 50s to late 60s) but with quite good (sometimes even splendid) sonics, I go for recordings made by the late engineer Kenneth Wilkinson.  Most of these analogue recordings have been made available at some point in time in the mid-price and budget series of DECCA.  Also worth noting are some recordings by him which originally appeared under READERS' DIGEST and had been reissued under CHESKY.  I like the Chopin, Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninov piano concertos played by Earl Wild.  The Tchaoikovsky violin conerto played by Itzhak Perlman in his early days is also very good.  I really like CHESKYbut it seems that it has stopped coming out with new classical titles.

I will be chekcing back this thread for more discussions.

What about those Cozart Fine-headed recordings.  They can be bought for first cheap now, but many are first-rate, still, 40 years later.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: jose on 24 Feb 2012, 07:08 pm
A few that come to mind:

* Any of the recordings by Angela Hewitt on the Hyperion label. (Personally, I am partial to those on the Fazioli piano, but Ms. Heweitt's entire Bach cycle is one of the landmarks in the history of recorded music)

* Anything conducted by Philippe Herrewhege (His St. Matthew Passion is another historical landmark.)

* Anything conducted by Nikolaus Harnoncourt

* Anything conducted by Jordi Savall

* Anything on the Telarc label (of course)

* Anything on the Channel Classics label. (Two special recommendations: Rachel Podger's recording of the Complete Sonatas & Partitas for Violin Solo and Dejan Lazic's recording of the Schubert  Sonata in B-flat major.)

* Anything on the Linn Classics label. (Special recommendation: the recording of the Beethoven piano concertos by Artur Pizarro and the Scottish Chamber Orchestra.)

* Anything on the Hanssler Classics label

* Anything recorded by Jan Eric Persson (of Opus 3), or by Pierre Sprey (of Mapleshade Records), or by Kavi Alexander (of Water Lily Acoustics)

* Anything recorded by Tony Faulkner

* The John Atkinson/Ray Kimber recording of Robert Silverman performing the Diabelli Variations (available from Stereophile)

* The Takacs Quartet cycle of the Beethoven string quartets

* For orchestral audiophile fireworks: The Mahler cycle of Zdenek Macal conducting the Czech Philharmonic Orchestra (on the Japanese Exton label). These are not cheap; if you want to buy only one, I suggest starting with the 7th, because this symphony, in a sense, "belongs" to the Czech Philharmonic.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Randy on 24 Feb 2012, 07:25 pm
I got the Mackerras recordings of the Brahms symphonies back in the day and was disappointed by them.  Let face it, you need a big orchestra to put over those works in the best light, and the selling point of those performances was the pared down orchestra done supposedly in the name of period authenticity.  I think old Johannes would have been appalled.

I wouldn't recommend just "anything" by Savall. Many of his recordings are of very esoteric repertoire, aimed at the specialist early music collector.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: saisunil on 24 Feb 2012, 08:01 pm
Thunder and Lightening ... Solti's powerful 2 CD set - highly recommend to any audiophile ...
 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00000DLUS/ref=oh_o01_s00_i00_details
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Ericus Rex on 24 Feb 2012, 09:26 pm
I think old Johannes would have been appalled.

I doubt it.  While I won't disagree with you that modern orchestrations do sound better for Brahms symphonies, the fact is that the steel string and modern, more projecting, violin setup weren't adopted until long after JB's death.  The period sets probably sound more like how Brahms heard them while he lived.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Tyson on 24 Feb 2012, 10:10 pm
I usually love almost everything that Mackerras does, but I have to agree that his Brahms is underwhelming.  Jochum, Dorati, and Levine are tops for overall performances of the set.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: rpf on 24 Feb 2012, 10:37 pm
I recently purchased the set by Rattle with the BPO and it's become my favorite. Great sound, conducting and, of course, playing. Autumnal Brahms at it's best.

Rattle's set of Beethoven Piano Concertos with Brendel and the VPO has also become my favorite set in those works.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: Randy on 25 Feb 2012, 12:08 am
I doubt it.  While I won't disagree with you that modern orchestrations do sound better for Brahms symphonies, the fact is that the steel string and modern, more projecting, violin setup weren't adopted until long after JB's death.  The period sets probably sound more like how Brahms heard them while he lived.

I meant that he probably would much prefer the sound of a modern orchestra over what he had available in his day, but I don't think they were all that much different by the time of his death. He lived into the 1890s after all.  An analogy might be if Beethoven could have had the use of a modern grand piano, I doubt very much he would ever have gone back to a piano of his time if given the choice.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: PA on 28 Sep 2016, 10:04 pm
Pictures on guitar?  Wow, that must be something to hear, it seems hard enough to play it with two hands at the piano.

Here is a version of ''Pictures that I like. It is of course quite different from the piano version but I it find very enjoyable and well recorded;
(http://static.wixstatic.com/media/fedadf_9c00a70108194872aa2d83b717a3e1cc.jpg/v1/fill/w_330,h_330/img.jpg)

sample;http://www.jorgecaballeroguitar.com/ (http://www.jorgecaballeroguitar.com/)
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: PA on 30 Sep 2016, 06:27 pm
This download is maybe the best recorded classical guitar that I have and a very beautiful album as well.
The repertoire goes from romantic to melodic modern music. The combination of guitar and clarinet works very well and is to my knowledge unique.
(http://www.soundliaison.com/images/Levan_Izhar_300_shadow_v3.png)
http://www.soundliaison.com/ (http://www.soundliaison.com/)
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Levan Tskhadadze (clarinet) and Izhar Elias (guitar) play their instruments with an incredible transparency, refined articulation and subtle musical colours. It is their own story they create. Their music speaks as if they are talking with each other through their instruments.
Title: Re: Audiophile Classical Music Recommendations - Basic Library (Links included)
Post by: csan on 18 Mar 2017, 07:11 pm
...
Vivaldi - The Four Seasons - Conducted by Alessandrini and the Concerto Italiano (http://www.amazon.com/Vivaldi-Quattro-Stagioni-bonus-Portrait/dp/B00006IWQR/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1263802406&sr=1-6)
One of the works MOST in need of an incredible, vivacious performance and spectacular recording quality, because of all the time it's been used a droning muzak in elevators and on telephone hold-music.  These are red-blooded Italians performing the music of their countryman as though their lives depended on it!
...

Hi Tyson

Congrats on your effort. It's been my guideline for quite a while.

I have a question (for the other Classical music listeners as well).

I always listened Vivaldi's "The Four Seasons" trhough a  CD from Deutsche Grammophon release below:

(http://album.deutschegrammophon.com/uploads/tx_dgproduct/CD16_F_ret.jpg)

Listening to the recording Tyson  suggested, brought me to another approach to Vivaldi's work. As I found it a little strange at start, I got used and noted the differences in every piece, but never stopped enjoying the one I've got first and that introduced me to this Vivaldi's marvelous work.

Would like to know your impressions on the Karajan/Berliner Phillarmoniker recording.

Thanks and regards

Carlos