Help needed with SP2 explanation of shop owner.

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Re: Help needed with SP2 explanation of shop owner.
« Reply #20 on: 9 May 2018, 01:46 pm »
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Although I have not been to his place

Still welcome.

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Re: Help needed with SP2 explanation of shop owner.
« Reply #21 on: 9 May 2018, 01:50 pm »
Still welcome.
Nou heb ik de komende 5 dagen vrij... :)

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Re: Help needed with SP2 explanation of shop owner.
« Reply #22 on: 9 May 2018, 01:52 pm »
mooi ik de komende 4. Tot vrijdagmiddag staan de B&Ws er nog die worden daarna opgehaald dan heb ik alleen nog de Kharma's en mijn eigen speakers (maar daar is het probleem niet op te horen, tenminste niet het resoneren).

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Re: Help needed with SP2 explanation of shop owner.
« Reply #23 on: 9 May 2018, 04:25 pm »
Donderdagmiddag, uurtje of 3?

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Re: Help needed with SP2 explanation of shop owner.
« Reply #24 on: 9 May 2018, 04:48 pm »
Prima kom maar langs, ik ben thuis.

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Re: Help needed with SP2 explanation of shop owner.
« Reply #25 on: 11 May 2018, 06:59 am »
I visited Hoiman and his lovely wife yesterday. His livingroom is a lot larger than mine, and basically is a massive concrete box. The problem is the standing wave, which is VERY obvious at 30-35 Hz.
Changing amplifiers is not going to help there. Bass traps will help, but I doubt it will be enough. I have sent him a link to a company that builds nice ones ( https://akoestiekopwerk.nl/ ), we could also wake up the powertools and build them ourselves, which is more fun.

In my opinion a DSP (like) system would be the best solution for Hoimans sonic challenge.

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Re: Help needed with SP2 explanation of shop owner.
« Reply #26 on: 11 May 2018, 09:55 am »
I visited Hoiman and his lovely wife yesterday. His livingroom is a lot larger than mine, and basically is a massive concrete box. The problem is the standing wave, which is VERY obvious at 30-35 Hz.
Changing amplifiers is not going to help there. Bass traps will help, but I doubt it will be enough. I have sent him a link to a company that builds nice ones ( https://akoestiekopwerk.nl/ ), we could also wake up the powertools and build them ourselves, which is more fun.

In my opinion a DSP (like) system would be the best solution for Hoimans sonic challenge.

A Bryston Model T Active system would be perfect. :thumb:





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Re: Help needed with SP2 explanation of shop owner.
« Reply #27 on: 11 May 2018, 11:36 am »
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I visited Hoiman and his lovely wife yesterday. His livingroom is a lot larger than mine, and basically is a massive concrete box. The problem is the standing wave, which is VERY obvious at 30-35 Hz.
Changing amplifiers is not going to help there. Bass traps will help, but I doubt it will be enough. I have sent him a link to a company that builds nice ones ( https://akoestiekopwerk.nl/ ), we could also wake up the powertools and build them ourselves, which is more fun.

Yep was really nice to meet Anonamemouse, next time at his house. We think we find a solution in a nice photo bass trapp on the wall, one or more. After that we can try a dsp device.

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Re: Help needed with SP2 explanation of shop owner.
« Reply #28 on: 11 May 2018, 11:48 am »
Hi Hoiman

Here's the formula for figuring out how thick an absorber has to be (even at 250Hz) before it can affect (absorb) a given frequency.  As you can see at 35Hz you are talking major dimensions.

Reflection Time Delay Formula:

First Null frequency = 1/ (2x TimeDelay)

Example:

2 ms reflection =  0.002 second reflection

First Null frequency = 1/ (2 x 0.002) = 250 Hz,
Then each 500 Hz above (250x2=500), 750,1250, 1750 etc...


AbsorberThickness Formula:

1130/ (4 x First Null frequency)

Example:

For 250 Hz absorption:

1130 / (4 x 250)  = 1.13 ft thick.


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Re: Help needed with SP2 explanation of shop owner.
« Reply #29 on: 11 May 2018, 12:36 pm »
Hi Hoiman

Here's the formula for figuring out how thick an absorber has to be (even at 250Hz) before it can affect (absorb) a given frequency.  As you can see at 35Hz you are talking major dimensions.

Reflection Time Delay Formula:

First Null frequency = 1/ (2x TimeDelay)

Example:

2 ms reflection =  0.002 second reflection

First Null frequency = 1/ (2 x 0.002) = 250 Hz,
Then each 500 Hz above (250x2=500), 750,1250, 1750 etc...


AbsorberThickness Formula:

1130/ (4 x First Null frequency)

Example:

For 250 Hz absorption:

1130 / (4 x 250)  = 1.13 ft thick.


Hmm... This might be a minor challenge...