The OFFICIAL Super-7 thread

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Re: The OFFICIAL Super-7 thread
« Reply #480 on: 10 Aug 2018, 03:47 pm »
Danny,

Just curious...When you were designing the Super 7 (and / or redesigning the DIY version), why didn't you go with a thin vertical MM T MM arrangement to minimize baffle width (kinda like the wedgie)? Why the compact horizontal arrangement? Was there a sonic advantage or was it simply to better aesthetically sit atop the OB sub?

- Nicholas

I could be wrong but I think the acoustic centers of the pair of  Neo10 stacked lengthwise below and above the tweeter in a waveguide would be too far apart.
Additionally, the "all in one" design is really  nice,  saves the footprint of having  separate subs .

jay

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Re: The OFFICIAL Super-7 thread
« Reply #481 on: 10 Aug 2018, 08:46 pm »
Danny,

Just curious...When you were designing the Super 7 (and / or redesigning the DIY version), why didn't you go with a thin vertical MM T MM arrangement to minimize baffle width (kinda like the wedgie)? Why the compact horizontal arrangement? Was there a sonic advantage or was it simply to better aesthetically sit atop the OB sub?

- Nicholas

Jay is correct. The acoustic centers would be so far apart that they'd have to cross to the tweeter at 900Hz or less for that to work. That wouldn't be possible.

Good question though.

And on their sides they do match the width of the servo subs pretty well. It worked.

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« Reply #482 on: 10 Aug 2018, 09:03 pm »
Cool. Since we're on the subject, what about something like this (not to scale)?


How would this impact wave propagation? Significantly different than the current Super-7 design?

I think about the "swarm" approach of the Tekton Design Impact Monitor.


https://www.stereophile.com/content/tekton-design-impact-monitor-loudspeaker

I haven't heard it...but the measurements don't look awful (regardless of how ridiculous is looks).

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« Reply #483 on: 10 Aug 2018, 09:16 pm »
Cool. Since we're on the subject, what about something like this (not to scale)?


How would this impact wave propagation? Significantly different than the current Super-7 design?

I think about the "swarm" approach of the Tekton Design Impact Monitor.


https://www.stereophile.com/content/tekton-design-impact-monitor-loudspeaker

I haven't heard it...but the measurements don't look awful (regardless of how ridiculous is looks).

That's an interesting idea.

I had to go lay the drivers out and take some measurements of that. If I lay the Neo 10's edge to edge then they make a 14.75" diameter square. So they would need a 15" baffle.

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« Reply #484 on: 11 Aug 2018, 12:19 am »
That's an interesting idea.

I had to go lay the drivers out and take some measurements of that. If I lay the Neo 10's edge to edge then they make a 14.75" diameter square. So they would need a 15" baffle.

... so you're saying you might have found a use for 15" OB servo woofers after all?  :wink: :green:

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« Reply #485 on: 11 Aug 2018, 03:22 am »
 :D is this a more the better thing ?  Could one 15" per side work with this if ? 
         KISS kinda thing ?    :D

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« Reply #486 on: 11 Aug 2018, 04:58 pm »
:D is this a more the better thing ?  Could one 15" per side work with this if ? 
         KISS kinda thing ?    :D

The moving mass goes up a lot with larger cones and so does control.

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Re: The OFFICIAL Super-7 thread
« Reply #487 on: 11 Aug 2018, 05:05 pm »
You guys could stack Neo 8's around a Neo 3 like that and have a baffle that is 11.5" total width.

That would get you down to a crossover point of about 850Hz to 1kHz from the Neo 8's to whatever the other drivers are.

You could then stack a pair of Neo 10's under and above that group and make it work. That would be quite a stack of Neo's.

SoCalWJS

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« Reply #488 on: 16 Aug 2018, 08:45 pm »
I have finally joined the Owners club! Super excited! Bought the pair Danny has been talking about in this thread. They arrived on Monday and I was in a hurry to try to get them up & running.

First of all, they were packed extremely well and showed up in perfect condition. Managed to get the tops off and some of the extra goodies out of the boxes, then move them inside by myself.





At that point, I decided I needed to wait for another pair of hands to help get them out of their crates, so I had to wait.....grrrrrrr.

It was worth the wait....






(Ignore all the extra wires - still experimenting )

These Speakers are GORGEOUS!

Danny also sent along the custom Folsom Chip Amp for me to try out.




It took a bit to get everything up and running, mostly due to operator error.

WOW!

I mean just WOW!  :o :o

I am still working on placement with PEQ off to get the Bass and soundstage  to the best compromise before I start trying to dial in the bass. I know I have some work ahead of me, but so far I am just blown away.

Air. Detail. Speed. - These are the first descriptors that come to mind with regard to differences from my old setup.

I'll report back with updates, but for now I have a houseful of Relatives about to show up, and I have to get things cleaned up.  :banghead:

THANKS DANNY!!!  :thumb: :wave:




Tyson

Re: The OFFICIAL Super-7 thread
« Reply #489 on: Today at 01:11 am »
I have finally joined the Owners club! Super excited! Bought the pair Danny has been talking about in this thread. They arrived on Monday and I was in a hurry to try to get them up & running.

It took a bit to get everything up and running, mostly due to operator error.

WOW!

I mean just WOW!  :o :o

I am still working on placement with PEQ off to get the Bass and soundstage  to the best compromise before I start trying to dial in the bass. I know I have some work ahead of me, but so far I am just blown away.

Air. Detail. Speed. - These are the first descriptors that come to mind with regard to differences from my old setup.

I'll report back with updates, but for now I have a houseful of Relatives about to show up, and I have to get things cleaned up.  :banghead:

THANKS DANNY!!!  :thumb: :wave:

Welcome to the club!  Seriously, the Super 7's are a once in a lifetime opportunity to own a TRUE world class speaker for (relatively) chump change.    I'm really curious to hear your ongoing impressions of them as you get them more and more dialed in.  My own experience is that they are not super fussy with positioning or with upstream equipment - they sound good almost no matter what you have or where you put them.  But when you improve those other things, the Super 7's just scale up effortlessly.

AND you're gonna have a lot of fun playing around with different amps for the top sections   :thumb:

Hear Clifford Brown

Re: The OFFICIAL Super-7 thread
« Reply #490 on: Today at 02:20 am »
Tyson, I have read your praise of the Spatial X2s which I own.  Wonder how you would compare them to the Super-7s.  I think the AMT wide range driver is really good in the X2s, and after making some position changes I'm getting better bass, and overall they sound amazing to me.  Best sound I've had so far.  But still think bass impact could be better.  Have been thinking of getting some flat packs and associated parts for a couple of GR dual OB subs.  But maybe the Super-7 instead?

Jeff