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Title: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 25 Apr 2015, 03:45 pm
How about some manly man tool talk. Post your new tool here.



I love my new cordless impact driver, even though I've not used it yet. It's got three torque settings and doubles as an impact wrench too. And a light. Whoa.

(http://images.bosch-professional.com/gb/en/ocs/stageprodimg/gdx-18-v-ec-30924.jpg)



PS Home renos circle still needs a facilitator. Like manly tool talk? Just drop me a line and you can sticky this thread.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: rajacat on 25 Apr 2015, 04:32 pm
I love my impact driver :inlove:. They are especially handy if you need to drive hundreds of screws like when building a deck. I find that using a regular drill to drive screws exerts a twisting motion on the arm which can cause tendonitis.

Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 25 Apr 2015, 05:27 pm
Here's a couple "new" (to me) tools.
They're both about 65 years old. After some tune-ups, new lube, new blades and some cleaning, they're the two smoothest operating tools I've ever owned.
Ahhhh.... cast iron.... The perfect material to make tools with.  :thumb:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/DeWalt%20Radial%20Arm%20Saw/DSC_0022_zpsiejhyebr.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/DeWalt%20Radial%20Arm%20Saw/DSC_0022_zpsiejhyebr.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Scroll%20Saw/DSC_0035_zpsghbd3cbn.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Scroll%20Saw/DSC_0035_zpsghbd3cbn.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Scroll%20Saw/DSC_0044_zpsxkq4m20s.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Scroll%20Saw/DSC_0044_zpsxkq4m20s.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 25 Apr 2015, 05:31 pm
Whooooah! Those are real tools. So that first one is a 65-year old De Walt radial arm saw?

The blade's going the opposite way? I'm sure there's a good reason. NM I just figured it out  :duh:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 25 Apr 2015, 05:44 pm
Yes. I haven't called DeWalt, but they still give out the production dates of vintage tools if you call them with the date code stamped on the tag.
I shot a bunch of photos before I replaced the wood "deck" and blade, but just shot this quick for the thread. If you're interested, I've got more.

I never "really" wanted a scroll saw, but it was given to me for free and about 90% operational. It took $25 and a few hours of TLC to get it working.
Since, I spent another $35 on new pulleys to smooth it out and eliminate vibrations. Not sure how often I'll use that one, but the ultra fine cuts it can make are amazing.
I also replaced the brittle wiring and switches with more modern electrical components.

Bob
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 25 Apr 2015, 05:50 pm
It's very darn cool mate. Both of them. I'm just shaking my head going "wow."
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 25 Apr 2015, 05:53 pm
Yes, me too. The level is build quality is amazing. They're just ....SOLID.
I've pretty well given up new (large) equipment. Just too cheap.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 25 Apr 2015, 06:02 pm
That's so awesome. I went through a couple of vintage phases. Amps at one point, then later on cameras. I never thought of tools - and I'm not about to start now. But they're, interestingly enough, not obsolete! (You know what I mean?)  You even have the DeWalt hooked up to your vacuum system.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 25 Apr 2015, 06:51 pm
Yes, it's on the dust collection system. My workshop is two steps from my HT room (white carpet), so I have to be vigilant about keeping things clean.
That white carpet isn't forgiving at all.  :roll:

To be honest John, if you keep your eyes on the used market, you can find pretty good deals on old equipment.
I paid $350 for the DeWalt "RAS" (Radial Arm Saw). The guys on the wood working forum think I overpaid and that better deals would come along, but this unit wasn't used much, so I jumped on it. In comparison, a new Craftsman (junk) saw is more than twice that price, and made of plastic and pot metal. You won't get me to believe that unit will still be working in 65 years, and won't be worn out and unable to track a straight line.

So vintage tools, unlike vintage audio, is actually affordable.  :lol:

Here's a 4" jointer I got for free. It works, but just barely.
I haven't had the time to mess with it yet, but I think I can revive it without spending any money.
I think it just needs to be taken apart, cleaned, and lubed.

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Jointer/DSC_0005_zpsb1ba4ba3.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Jointer/DSC_0005_zpsb1ba4ba3.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Jointer/DSC_0002_zpsc679d386.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Jointer/DSC_0002_zpsc679d386.jpg.html)

Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 25 Apr 2015, 06:55 pm
Here's a couple "new" (to me) tools.
They're both about 65 years old. After some tune-ups, new lube, new blades and some cleaning, they're the two smoothest operating tools I've ever owned.
Ahhhh.... cast iron.... The perfect material to make tools with.  :thumb:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/DeWalt%20Radial%20Arm%20Saw/DSC_0022_zpsiejhyebr.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/DeWalt%20Radial%20Arm%20Saw/DSC_0022_zpsiejhyebr.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Scroll%20Saw/DSC_0035_zpsghbd3cbn.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Scroll%20Saw/DSC_0035_zpsghbd3cbn.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Scroll%20Saw/DSC_0044_zpsxkq4m20s.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Scroll%20Saw/DSC_0044_zpsxkq4m20s.jpg.html)
Me likey!!! :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 25 Apr 2015, 07:27 pm
Thank you!

Another tool that's new for me this year is a JET drum sander. It's a pretty amazing machine in it's own right.
It's not vintage, but still pretty "stout".
I don't have any photos, and can't take one right now, as it's upside down getting casters installed.
If all goes well, I'll shoot a few pics this afternoon (assuming the surgery goes well).

Bob
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: mcgsxr on 25 Apr 2015, 07:31 pm
Interesting heavy gear!

For Xmas I received a Ryobi sliding mitre saw.

Looking to do some simple projects around the house and have long been afraid of my hand held radial saw.\

A decent homeowners piece.

(http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/03/03188777-4d69-4654-98fe-c6ddaf610eb9_400.jpg)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: aldcoll on 25 Apr 2015, 07:33 pm
Is that a tin can being used as a lamp shade??? 
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 25 Apr 2015, 07:36 pm
That's a good looking unit Mark!
When my 10" chop saw died, I thought about buying a model (roughly) like you've got, but ended up going with the old RAS instead.

Too many tools....so little space....  :(

aldcoll...."YES" that is a soup can used as a light fixture.  :lol:
I was going to modernize that, but my 16 year old son that it was "epic" and I should leave it alone.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 25 Apr 2015, 07:38 pm
Here's a couple shots of the tin can lighting.  :lol:
(before I cleaned it all up)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Scroll%20Saw/DSC_0014_zpse9b4c8c6.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Scroll%20Saw/DSC_0014_zpse9b4c8c6.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Scroll%20Saw/DSC_0001_zps25a74346.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/Delta%20Milwaukee%20Scroll%20Saw/DSC_0001_zps25a74346.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: mcgsxr on 25 Apr 2015, 08:18 pm
That's an awesome light, I am with the kid!

I once used a shaving can lid (plastic) as the housing for a tail light in one of my rougher GSXR bikes.  It was being put back on the street after some track time, so the rear tail section had no provision for lights.

Cheap n cheerful indeed.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 25 Apr 2015, 08:28 pm
Indeed!
In fact, the guy that built it, needed a washer for the top nut (around the cord) and all he had to use was the striker plate for a door knob.
So yea...there's that being used as a washer right now.  :lol:

Just got finished mounting casters on the drum sander.
Here's some more tool porn,
The JET 16-32 Drum Sander


(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JET%2016-32/DSC_0023_zpsiadzmwwu.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JET%2016-32/DSC_0023_zpsiadzmwwu.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: rif on 25 Apr 2015, 10:09 pm
Add to the list of old can be better than new - vintage hand planes.  I never had the money or true justification for buying them.  Another hobby that will drain your wallet quickly.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Scott F. on 25 Apr 2015, 11:10 pm
Relatively new, we picked this up last spring.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119771&size=xlarge)

This thing is a whole lotta awesome :thumb:

...headed out to dinner. I'll post some more pics of what she's been used for when we get back.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Scott F. on 25 Apr 2015, 11:14 pm
Oh BISL, that jet sander is awesome :thumb: I also am diggin the old DeWalts. I know I LOVE my 50 year old Craftsmen table saw. Like you said, smooth as butter and it beats the crap out of my new(er) Ryobi...which is collecting dust in the corner of the shop.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 25 Apr 2015, 11:38 pm
Amen to that!
By the way...I still want to drive the Kubota!  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 26 Apr 2015, 02:47 am
This is what I did with my Performax 16-32 today...

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119826)


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119827)

It will be the top to my new stereo rack.  It's 3" thick curly spalted maple.  I figure the 47" x 18" piece weighs about 100 lbs. and it made about 100 passes through the sander.  I'm tired, but happy!
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 26 Apr 2015, 02:51 am
How about some manly man tool talk. Post your new tool here.



I love my new cordless impact driver, even though I've not used it yet. It's got three torque settings and doubles as an impact wrench too. And a light. Whoa.

(http://images.bosch-professional.com/gb/en/ocs/stageprodimg/gdx-18-v-ec-30924.jpg)
I've thought about getting one--they seem pretty cool.  Do you find the lack of a chuck a disadvantage?


PS Home renos circle still needs a facilitator. Like manly tool talk? Just drop me a line and you can sticky this thread.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 26 Apr 2015, 10:56 am
Do you find the lack of a chuck a disadvantage?

No, not at all! But it's for driving screws and bolts, not for drilling. I have a really good cordless drill as well :) This one takes quarter inch hex bits and half inch square drive.

For some reason Bosch use completely different model numbers for the US market,  but this appears to be known as the IDH182 (Amazon for reviews (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dtools&field-keywords=IDH182).)

I did get to drive a half dozen screws today, but haven't really tested it yet. My Makita 10.8V is a little beast but struggles sometimes e.g. screwing through aged hardwood battens.

Lovely piece of wood there.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 26 Apr 2015, 11:03 am
OK you win  :lol:

Seriously, how cool is that. Please do show some of your projects.


Relatively new, we picked this up last spring.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119771&size=xlarge)

This thing is a whole lotta awesome :thumb:

...headed out to dinner. I'll post some more pics of what she's been used for when we get back.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Scott F. on 26 Apr 2015, 12:48 pm
This is what I did with my Performax 16-32 today...




(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119827)



ACH, Bob,

I really need to get one of those. I've got a 14" planar but I have to use my hand sanders after to get that kind of smooth...and it's never really as smooth as a drum sander makes it. Those big drum sanders are awesome :thumb:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: steve in jersey on 26 Apr 2015, 01:48 pm
This is what I did with my Performax 16-32 today...

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119826)


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119827)

It will be the top to my new stereo rack.  It's 3" thick curly spalted maple.  I figure the 47" x 18" piece weighs about 100 lbs. and it made about 100 passes through the sander.  I'm tired, but happy!

Nice piece of wood !!! 

Are you sure you want to cover it up with equipment ? (He,he,he... Yeah, I can appreciate we love to display our Audio equipment, but
being a frustrated "Wanted to be an Acoustic Guitar maker but caved & went to work in Pharmacueticals for 30yrs & had a heart attack
instead " kind of guy", I'd have a hard time with this not being it's own focal point !)

Have you considered using it for a small table in front of your listening seat ?

Tools are indispensible things to have if we use them to "Step outside of the Box" that is our daily lives & create some type of imprint
of what we can do. (Naturally, I'm not talking about just a hammer & nails here!; but even that has it's place)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 26 Apr 2015, 02:48 pm
That's a great looking piece of wood!
Looks like it could also make two turntables as well.  :thumb:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Scott F. on 26 Apr 2015, 03:10 pm
Besides my engineering day job, we've got a really small commercial farm. We grow jalapeno peppers for a local butcher shop who uses them for his spicy beef jerky. We also grow luffa's. My wife sells those to the local beauty shops for skin care. We also grow the usual veggies for friend and family consumption on the same plot. That is the biggest reason we bought the Kubota.

Here are a couple of the projects I've used the tractor for;

Here is the latest. We live basically on a hillside. In turn, we built a big patio and landscaped the hill that surrounded it. First is a pic of the landscaping and sets up the issue we were having. As you can see, we've got a big mulch bed on the hillside. In turn, three or four times a year we get really heavy rains and what happens is the water rushes off the hill and it strips the hill of the mulch.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119838&size=xlarge)

So, a couple weeks ago I took a full week off to fix the problem. What I had to do was create a swale that surrounded the driveway, the mulch bed and the garden (because the water washes all the fertile topsoil off). I didn't measure it but the swale is about 600' long.

On the driveway side, I took back about 10' of the woods on our property cutting out a couple of trees and honeysuckle. I then cut in about a 36" deep swale. Though the Kubota isn't a production machine and the hydraulics are sorta sketchy, it did a fairly decent job. Oh, to cut the swale, I used a 4' tiller attachment to loosen the soil, then I used the front bucket blade to move the soil to the sides of the swale then I installed a 4' box blade to cut the swale a bit deeper in the middle and do the finish grading.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119779&size=xlarge)

On the top side of the main mulch bed I cut about an 18" deep swale with the box blade

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119780&size=xlarge)


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119777&size=xlarge)


then on the back side of the property leading down to the garden, I cut about a 12" deep swale to keep the water from washing the topsoil in the garden away

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119778&size=xlarge)


last year Zoysia (grass) took over the garden. Since its a rhizome (deep, mass rooted grass), there was no other choice but to strip about 6" of soil out of the garden because you can't kill this stuff, it just keeps coming back. Here's a pic on the garden with the new topsoil I brought in. I got the dump truck stuck in the front yard where he couldn't make it back to the garden so we had to dump two loads of soil in the driveway . In turn, I moved 24 cu yds of soil and 12 yards of mulch.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119775&size=xlarge)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119776&size=xlarge)


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119839&size=xlarge)

Here's the garden with the fencing up and my wife adjusting the sprinkler heads

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119840&size=xlarge)


Here's a pic of the first year we did the garden with all the plants up and thriving. The garden is at least twice as big now.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119837&size=xlarge)


Besides using it for the garden we use for doing all kinds of stuff around the property. Here' we are digging a few holes an planting some arborvitaes lining the driveway at our bridge. 

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119773&size=xlarge)

You might think this would have been a hard sell to my wife in order to buy a tractor but, believe it or not, she has said numerous times, how the heck did we get by without this thing over the years. Thankfully my wife isn't a girlie girl. She's into power tools and is also a 'car guy' hence our (her) TBird and my (hers also) truck. In fact, today she put on her bibs, grabbed the truck and headed over to my daughters house to help her get her garden up and going.


JohnR, as for winning, not a chance :D bside123 (Din) has a full blown commercial farm that supplies his local community, his sandwich shop plus his farmers market. My little Kubota is all of 25hp. I think Din has two or three tractors and all of them are over 50hp. A couple of years ago he dug and stocked (I want to say) a two acre pond. Now THAT is a project.

That said, I still love this little thing. I've got a ton of attachments for it. So far I've got the Backhoe, a box blade, the tiller (which is awesome), a 6' rake, a 6' blade for the front and a forklift for the front.

Right now, I'm debating getting a PTO (power take off) generator to use on the three point hitch. We loose power here several times a year. I've got a little 3500W gas powered unit but it doesn't cover everything we'd like. I can get a ~15kW PTO GenSet for the tractor and we could power most all of the house, heat and cooling included. I just need to install a transfer switch and outlet on the side of the house to make it happen. Still debating between the PTO Gen and a bigger stationary, backup generator (23kW liquid cooled propane powered).


Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 26 Apr 2015, 03:19 pm
That's impressive. You've done so much in such a short time, I haven't seen most of what you've shown here.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Scott F. on 26 Apr 2015, 03:30 pm
Best guess, last week I moved or dug 120 cu yds of material with the Kubota. Keep in mind that front bucket is only 6 cu ft (<1/4 cu yd).
I think I got the best part of 50 hours of 'tractor therapy' last week :thumb:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 26 Apr 2015, 03:50 pm
ACH, Bob,

I really need to get one of those. I've got a 14" planar but I have to use my hand sanders after to get that kind of smooth...and it's never really as smooth as a drum sander makes it. Those big drum sanders are awesome :thumb:
I bought the Performax used, and it was ok at flattening the slab--certainly easier than hand planing (it was WAY too big for my 12" jointer/planer).  It left a lot of grooves that I smoothed with a Festool Rotex--probably because of the slab being cantilevered and the drum cutting into the wood.  I had an outfeed table set up at the right height, but really need a side and infeed table to support that big of a hunk of wood. This was my first time using it, so part of the issues I experienced may be due to my lack of experience.

I do know that I'm feeling every one of the 200 passes I made carrying and supporting that hunk of wood.  I even had to hand saw it to length--it was too deep for my circular or table saws, and too awkward for the bandsaw.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 26 Apr 2015, 03:51 pm
Besides my engineering day job, we've got a really small commercial farm. We grow jalapeno peppers for a local butcher shop who uses them for his spicy beef jerky. We also grow luffa's. My wife sells those to the local beauty shops for skin care. We also grow the usual veggies for friend and family consumption on the same plot. That is the biggest reason we bought the Kubota.

Here are a couple of the projects I've used the tractor for;

Very impressive!
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 26 Apr 2015, 03:59 pm
Have you calibrated the Performax?
I had a heckuva time doing mine. I "thought" I had it dialed in. I could put a steel rule under it, and it was perfect, but I kept having problems with gauging wood.
Took me a while, but I found out that I had tightened the conveyor belt in such a way that it twisted the entire deck.
There was about 3/8" of twist overall!  :o  But of course, the distance from belt to drum was "dead on".
If you get your eyes level with the side of the belt, you should be able to see what I mean. Also, if you have a piece of board that's the same dimensions as the belt, see if it rocks on any of the corners.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 26 Apr 2015, 03:59 pm
Nice piece of wood !!! 

Are you sure you want to cover it up with equipment ? (He,he,he... Yeah, I can appreciate we love to display our Audio equipment, but
being a frustrated "Wanted to be an Acoustic Guitar maker but caved & went to work in Pharmacueticals for 30yrs & had a heart attack
instead " kind of guy", I'd have a hard time with this not being it's own focal point !)

Have you considered using it for a small table in front of your listening seat ?


Steve,
I bought 400 bf of air-dried maple, much of it figured.  This is one of the few spalted pieces, and I picked it specifically for a shelf for my turntable.  The design will hopefully complement this cocktail table from The Joinery already in use in front of my listening couch.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=119846)

AC
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 26 Apr 2015, 04:01 pm
That's a great looking piece of wood!
Looks like it could also make two turntables as well.  :thumb:

I've got another ~400 bf of it, but not this thick--I was only able to get a couple slabs 3" thick.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 26 Apr 2015, 04:05 pm
Have you calibrated the Performax?
I had a heckuva time doing mine. I "thought" I had it dialed in. I could put a steel rule under it, and it was perfect, but I kept having problems with gauging wood.
Took me a while, but I found out that I had tightened the conveyor belt in such a way that it twisted the entire deck.
There was about 3/8" of twist overall!  :o  But of course, the distance from belt to drum was "dead on".
If you get your eyes level with the side of the belt, you should be able to see what I mean. Also, if you have a piece of board that's the same dimensions as the belt, see if it rocks on any of the corners.
Bob,
No I didn't do anything other than run an offcut of the slab through and got good results, so I dove in.  In general it worked well, just not perfect.  I'm a bit spoiled as boards coming off my 12" j/p are dead flat and smooth.  I guess I could have broken out the jointer plane, but kinda wanted to try out the Performax and was glad I did.  One of the problems was that the slab was cupped about 3/8" over the 18" width.  I flattened the back some, but it still rocked a bit going through.

Evan
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 5 May 2015, 02:02 pm
Right! New tools. Lessee...

This is the most awesome cordless drill/driver in the world. If you don't have one, you don't know what you are missing:

(http://im9.cz/iR/importprodukt-orig/578/5788e239996bac377994402435c4f8ec.jpg)

Seriously.

Anyway I just picked up a little brother to go with it. Enough with slow/gutless/imprecise drill/drivers from "major manufacturers." Now I'm pretty well set for the forseeable future  :green:

(http://www.kreocen.pl/img/z/0/p/867218/1/PROTOOL-wiertarko-wkretarka-DRC-18-4-Compact.jpg)

They are being sold now at a silly price because Festool have taken over the Protool brand. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me but anyway. If you can find a Protool branded DRC-18 or PDC-18 and/or Compact version (no interchangeable chuck, smaller batteries), chances are it's a really good price.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: EdRo on 5 May 2015, 07:43 pm
Where did you find that tool?
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: EdRo on 5 May 2015, 08:01 pm
My Boschs 12 Volt clutch is starting to fail. I need a new one!  :cry:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Folsom on 6 May 2015, 02:02 am
This thing goes everywhere with me. I use it for work constantly; even when we don't think we'll need one but I bring it anyways!

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51D0MV0vVmL.jpg)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 6 May 2015, 03:59 am
Where did you find that tool?

Hi Ed, my local high-end tool store here in Sydney AU. Not sure if you get Protool there? I know you get Festool (thanks Salis!), their version might be available.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Folsom on 6 May 2015, 06:35 am
Hi Ed, my local high-end tool store here in Sydney AU. Not sure if you get Protool there? I know you get Festool (thanks Salis!), their version might be available.

They don't sell the big 18 here yet for Festool, have to order from Europe. You can get the non-hammer T18 only. The C18 also not... The only Protool's brand stuff sold here is by Timberwolf Tools, timber framing stuff. I like to drool looking at Mafell stuff on their site.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 6 May 2015, 02:45 pm
Have Festool got themselves into a state where they have two different (incompatible) 18V batteries? I can't tell from the pics. Surely not, but... I'm somewhat curious about the history of Protool, I've assumed they were a separate company bought by Festool but maybe not. The "big 18" drills were obviously not designed by anyone on the same planet as whoever designed the C18/CXS/etc. Nothing wrong with the latter I'm sure (altho I've never used myself).

Anyway I've decided to get the right angle head for my PDC 18, I'll try to remember to ask about the batteries when I'm there tomorrow.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 6 May 2015, 04:25 pm
I've thought about buying a cordless impact, but considering the impacts I already have,
it's hard to justify the expenditure in the name of "losing a cord" (or hose in my case).

1/4" drive, 3/8" drive and 1/2" drive

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/DSC_0005_zpswqbh4rpm.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/DSC_0005_zpswqbh4rpm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: thunderbrick on 6 May 2015, 04:30 pm
Uh, is the dealership running short of a few air tools, Bob?

Inquiring minds want to know….
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 6 May 2015, 04:46 pm
Uhm..."no" .....  :duh:

The Snap-On truck was my "crack dealer" for far too many years.
"Impacts" are not shop tools in any shop I've ever heard of. Those are the techs personal tools without exception.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Folsom on 6 May 2015, 11:48 pm
Have Festool got themselves into a state where they have two different (incompatible) 18V batteries? I can't tell from the pics. Surely not, but... I'm somewhat curious about the history of Protool, I've assumed they were a separate company bought by Festool but maybe not. The "big 18" drills were obviously not designed by anyone on the same planet as whoever designed the C18/CXS/etc. Nothing wrong with the latter I'm sure (altho I've never used myself).

Anyway I've decided to get the right angle head for my PDC 18, I'll try to remember to ask about the batteries when I'm there tomorrow.

I'm sure they're compatible. They appear to be identical on the top. I'd never consider a PDC for 90-99% of the work I do. The CXS is more than powerful enough and is so light and easy to use! The 90* attachment gets used, a lot. It's my drill, driver, and 90* device. When it comes to auging out big holes I prefer AC drills, and with decking I prefer impacts short of AC. Some day I'll get a nice 18v/15v Festool I'm sure. The eccentric chuck is pretty damn cool!

Protool is the company making all of them I'm sure. They make several other things Festool has taken over. They were a separate company before, fairly sure.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 12 May 2015, 09:22 am
Update: I did ask, and I was wrong/confused, Festool do only have one 18V battery system. I think my confusion may have stemmed from before Festool took over the PDC/DRC 18 and only had 15V drill/drivers, which won't take the 18V batteries.

BISL: well it looks like you're set! I have no idea what air tools are like to use. I need the cordless impact up on the roof.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 20 May 2015, 02:57 pm
Time for some more new tools.

(http://images.bosch-pt.com.au/au/productimages/stageprodimg/cordless-sabre-saw-gsa-10-8-v-li/105574-70099-660x350.jpg)

(http://images.bosch-pt.com.au/au/productimages/stageprodimg/cordless-jigsaw-gst-10-8-v-li/121123-93952-660x350.jpg)

Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 20 May 2015, 03:09 pm
Neat! That little reciprocating saw looks handy.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 8 Jun 2015, 01:52 pm
How about some manly man tool talk. Post your new tool here.
Ok John, here's a new one I just got.

Ran across a Jet JPS-10TS for $575 the other day. Seemed like a pretty good deal, as the new ones with cast iron wings are about $1400.
The guy had it five years and said he used it a handful of times the first year and put it in storage for the past four years.

The top was a bit rusted, so I used about 15 sheets of 120 grit on the orbital sander, then about 15 sheets of 320 grit. Then, I followed up with a scotch-brite pad on the orbital sander with WD-40 as the lube.
It's now slick as glass.

I was going to tune it up, but it's already true and square.
I've got the plywood on the right where I'm going to veneer a piece of steel sheet to it and use it for a router table.

I'm trying to figure out how to modify the back side of the fence as the fence for the router section.

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/DSC_0217_zpsuinw0ojq.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/DSC_0217_zpsuinw0ojq.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/DSC_0214_zpsbb5lwnvd.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/DSC_0214_zpsbb5lwnvd.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/DSC_0216_zpsw33vfzql.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/DSC_0216_zpsw33vfzql.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: thunderbrick on 8 Jun 2015, 01:55 pm
How, when I saw the subject line, that I KNEW it had to be from BISL?     :shake:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 8 Jun 2015, 01:57 pm
But in fact it was John that started it.  :wink:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: thunderbrick on 8 Jun 2015, 02:00 pm
No, BISL, today's post.   :nono:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 8 Jun 2015, 02:12 pm
Ahh gotcha.
One of these days I'll stop buying tools.  :wink:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: thunderbrick on 8 Jun 2015, 02:15 pm
Let us know, as your audio gear will be up for sale about that time...
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 8 Jun 2015, 02:18 pm
 :lol:
Actually, I need to build more stuff for people in order to buy more tools.  :icon_twisted:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 8 Jun 2015, 02:30 pm
Ok John, here's a new one I just got.

Ran across a Jet JPS-10TS for $575 the other day. Seemed like a pretty good deal, as the new ones with cast iron wings are about $1400.
The guy had it five years and said he used it a handful of times the first year and put it in storage for the past four years.

Nice find! Those are $2000 here...!

Your shop seems to be getting full, you might need to build a new one  :green:

Neat! That little reciprocating saw looks handy.

It is! Cut some roof battens today (in situ, some needed repair/replacement), a lot easier with this than a hand saw (my old method) :duh:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: bearman2 on 8 Jun 2015, 02:34 pm
BISL, I like your OB speakers in your shop. :)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 8 Jun 2015, 02:44 pm
Oh, trust me John, I've been talking to the wife about a new shop....either an "outbuilding", or a new house.
In the mean time, I'll just continue to install wheels on the heavy stuff.   :roll:

Since space is at such a premium here, I'm forced to get creative with what I've got.
For instance, the new saw is so massive and there's so much wasted space under the deck, I'm going to build storage shelves and cabinets under it.
It's also going to serve as an out-feed table to the drum sander!   :thumb:
It'll certainly be a challenge to get all that on a rolling cart at the perfect height.

Bearman, thanks! Yes, I've actually got two pair of OB speakers. One on either end of the workshop.
The ones you can see here are vintage AlNiCo console speakers. On the other end are 15" Hawthorne Audio drivers.
Mr. Thunderbrick was kind enough to give me a vintage HH Scott receiver that powers them.
One set of speakers are output "A", the other are "B".  8)

Bob
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: TomS on 8 Jun 2015, 05:27 pm
Oh, trust me John, I've been talking to the wife about a new shop....either an "outbuilding", or a new house.

...

Bob
Sooooo, I assume you haven't become hooked on www.garagejournal.com (http://www.garagejournal.com) yet?

That darn forum has already cost me more than my audio habit and I've only been on there a year or so.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 8 Jun 2015, 05:48 pm
No Tom. They didn't understand my sense of humor. I was banned right away.  :roll:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: TomS on 8 Jun 2015, 05:51 pm
No Tom. They didn't understand my sense of humor. I was banned right away.  :roll:
Perfect  8)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 8 Jun 2015, 05:55 pm
Probably saved me thousands of dollars in the long run.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 8 Jun 2015, 06:04 pm
Ok John, here's a new one I just got.

Ran across a Jet JPS-10TS for $575 the other day. Seemed like a pretty good deal, as the new ones with cast iron wings are about $1400.
The guy had it five years and said he used it a handful of times the first year and put it in storage for the past four years.

The top was a bit rusted, so I used about 15 sheets of 120 grit on the orbital sander, then about 15 sheets of 320 grit. Then, I followed up with a scotch-brite pad on the orbital sander with WD-40 as the lube.
It's now slick as glass.

I was going to tune it up, but it's already true and square.
I've got the plywood on the right where I'm going to veneer a piece of steel sheet to it and use it for a router table.

I'm trying to figure out how to modify the back side of the fence as the fence for the router section.

Bob,
Nice saw!  I had a router table on my old (by old I mean 1929) Davis and Wells table saw.  I just built up a two-piece fence with a gap for the router bit.  Just make sure you feed the stock "backwards"--you don't want the bit climbing which it will do if you feed from the front of the saw.

AC
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 8 Jun 2015, 07:06 pm
Good advise AC.
The saw from the twenties sounds cool. I've got a couple from the late forties and love them. I was convinced my next table saw would be vintage, but this one fell in my lap. Can't go wrong with a new Jet though.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 8 Jun 2015, 07:31 pm
Good advise AC.
The saw from the twenties sounds cool. I've got a couple from the late forties and love them. I was convinced my next table saw would be vintage, but this one fell in my lap. Can't go wrong with a new Jet though.
Nope, the new Jet stuff is pretty good.  I bought a 14" steel bandsaw and their 12" jointer/planer last year, and am impressed with both machines (other than the bandsaw's tendency to blow the breaker, but that's probably a breaker issue as much as a crappy motor issue). 

My old table saw was loaned to a buddy that ended up getting separated, and it became a lawn ornament.  I'd feel worse if I hadn't left it there for 10 years  :oops:

My "new" table saw is an Inca 259 (probably only about 30 years old), but I don't use it much since getting a good bandsaw and one of these:
https://www.festoolproducts.com/Festool-PT3561556-TS-55-REQ-MFT-3-MultiFunction-p/pt3561556.htm?gclid=Cj0KEQjw-tSrBRCk8bzDiO__gbwBEiQAk-D31Smy2geE7I_bcxBoRfuxbZtqHBWrKNYoswEu6-8PYn8aAjK58P8HAQ

...and bolted on one of these for my router table...
https://www.festoolproducts.com/Festool-P00110-CMS-VL-MFT-3-Router-Table-p/p00110.htm?gclid=Cj0KEQjw-tSrBRCk8bzDiO__gbwBEiQAk-D31dZm-nCTjAsPpZj6kZwd65F9w7nR9SKNbWbVOQQmsm0aAmYH8P8HAQ

The CMS is really slick, but it's so complicated that I start learning about it, get distracted, then have to start all over again.

Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 8 Jun 2015, 07:41 pm
Wow, those are impressive!
That CMS is amazing.... incremental adjustments of 1/256".  :o
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: gregfisk on 8 Jun 2015, 08:35 pm
Cool old tools Bob, I know you're old enough and probably know the reputation of the radial arm saw. There's a reason they stopped making saw blades go in that direction, people used to cut fingers off all the time because those darn saws grab and pull to you, not away from you. That's why they started making slide saws and I just love using mine, don't have any pictures of it thou.

John, those small impact drivers are great for driving long screws like decking screws. They make a night and day difference when driving something that needs some pressure against it to drive it home.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 8 Jun 2015, 08:49 pm
Yea, no kidding. The saw definitely has a learning curve, that's for sure.
I've learned to keep my left thumb tucked away.  :lol:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 10 Jun 2015, 09:07 am
It's funny how people have different ideas about what tools they need. I suppose it's just like... well anything  :scratch: :duh: :lol: Here's my latest new tool

(http://images.bosch-pt.com.au/au/productimages/stageprodimg/cordless-multi-cutter-gop-18-v-ec/120678-92722-660x350.jpg)

I already have the corded version but dragging the cord around on the roof is a pain. So, let's see how well the cordless one works. (That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :-P) It's started raining now so it will be a few days before it gets used.

BTW Amazon have $50 off Bosch right now which brings the price down a fair bit (just in case anyone who already has Bosch batteries and charger was interested)

http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Bare-Tool-MXH180BL-Brushless-Oscillating/dp/B00E1RSUDW/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1433926918&sr=1-1&keywords=MXH180

http://www.amazon.com/MXH180BN-Bare-Tool-Brushless-Oscillating-Exact-Fit/dp/B00N8I2F2C/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1433926986&sr=1-2&keywords=MXH180
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 10 Jun 2015, 12:09 pm
I've got the DeWalt "Multi-Max" version of that tool.
"Indispensable" as far as I'm concerned. A cordless would be even better.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 10 Jun 2015, 12:41 pm
Eh? MultiMax is Dremel (?)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 10 Jun 2015, 12:48 pm
Wow, those are impressive!
That CMS is amazing.... incremental adjustments of 1/256".  :o
Only if you can remember how to put all the pieces together!  :oops:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 10 Jun 2015, 01:14 pm
Eh? MultiMax is Dremel (?)
"Yes", you're correct. I'm was on my first cup 'o java when I typed that. :duh:

AC, I know what you mean.  :duh:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: TomS on 10 Jun 2015, 01:41 pm
I have the Fein version. It's one of those tools that the few times you use it you wonder how you ever lived without it. They are definitely in it to sell the blades though  8)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 10 Jun 2015, 01:48 pm
I know what you mean about the blades.
Reminds me of the cheap PC printers....they might as well give you the printer for free, since the ink refills are as much as the printer was.  :roll:
That tool seemed to fill a nitch that no other tool ever has. It makes thousands of tasks that used to be difficult, into smaller tasks that now take seconds.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: gregfisk on 10 Jun 2015, 03:24 pm
It's funny how people have different ideas about what tools they need. I suppose it's just like... well anything  :scratch: :duh: :lol: Here's my latest new tool

(http://images.bosch-pt.com.au/au/productimages/stageprodimg/cordless-multi-cutter-gop-18-v-ec/120678-92722-660x350.jpg)

I already have the corded version but dragging the cord around on the roof is a pain. So, let's see how well the cordless one works. (That's my excuse and I'm sticking to it :-P) It's started raining now so it will be a few days before it gets used.

BTW Amazon have $50 off Bosch right now which brings the price down a fair bit (just in case anyone who already has Bosch batteries and charger was interested)

http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Bare-Tool-MXH180BL-Brushless-Oscillating/dp/B00E1RSUDW/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1433926918&sr=1-1&keywords=MXH180

http://www.amazon.com/MXH180BN-Bare-Tool-Brushless-Oscillating-Exact-Fit/dp/B00N8I2F2C/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1433926986&sr=1-2&keywords=MXH180

I have 3 of these multi tools, 2 of them are the version from Harbour Freight and are corded and the other one is a cordless from Ridged. For $35.00 the corded ones are amazing and I can't believe how often that tool has saved the day, much easier than using a sawzall and much faster than using a drill and saber saw for cutting out holes. The cordless doesn't work near as well, just doesn't have the power it needs but I'm thinking some of the other cordless units probably work better. 
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 11 Jun 2015, 03:09 pm
I have to admit I was initially pretty skeptical about the power of a cordless, but the reviews are almost all positive on that for this machine so I decided to take the plunge (hah hah :-P ) Haven't tested yet tho.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 11 Jun 2015, 11:38 pm
I have to admit I was initially pretty skeptical about the power of a cordless, but the reviews are almost all positive on that for this machine so I decided to take the plunge (hah hah :-P ) Haven't tested yet tho.
Can these things do plunge cuts?
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 12 Jun 2015, 12:58 am
Yep, one of the main reasons to get one. Here's an example https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1tubCHhKniQ

 You can see from the comments some think a jigsaw would been better for that.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Folsom on 12 Jun 2015, 02:25 am
Can these things do plunge cuts?

Check Festools plunge system. It alone makes me want one. I forget if the cordless version is out.

Although for drywall saws are a waste of time and generate dust. All you need is a razor knife/box cutter and the correct 8 cuts (you repeat a couple a few times). The hole will be nicer than any remodel box's shape.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: gregfisk on 12 Jun 2015, 02:45 am
Can these things do plunge cuts?

I had to take out a chunk of 2x4 in a wall for a vent before sheet rock last week, it took about 1 minute to cut the two cuts to the outside wall and remove the 6" piece. I did the same thing the day before using a Milwaukee sawzall and it took over twice as long, was way harder and the cut wasn't near as clean. Plunge cuts are what these are good at. I've cut a rectangle out of a 3/4" piece of plywood and it was way faster compared to drilling 4 holes in the corners and using a saber saw or sawzall to cut out the hole.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: ACHiPo on 12 Jun 2015, 12:43 pm
I had to take out a chunk of 2x4 in a wall for a vent before sheet rock last week, it took about 1 minute to cut the two cuts to the outside wall and remove the 6" piece. I did the same thing the day before using a Milwaukee sawzall and it took over twice as long, was way harder and the cut wasn't near as clean. Plunge cuts are what these are good at. I've cut a rectangle out of a 3/4" piece of plywood and it was way faster compared to drilling 4 holes in the corners and using a saber saw or sawzall to cut out the hole.
Gee thanks guys--just in time for Father's Day! :thumb:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: rajacat on 12 Jun 2015, 01:54 pm

Although for drywall saws are a waste of time and generate dust. All you need is a razor knife/box cutter and the correct 8 cuts (you repeat a couple a few times). The hole will be nicer than any remodel box's shape.
+1
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 23 Jun 2015, 03:37 pm
I built a wing on my table saw, which bring the total width to an even 60".
I've got a small shop, and this massive saw takes up a large amount of real estate. With the rails hanging out 16" past the table, I figure I  might as well make more table, right?
More than likely, I'll turn this into a router station. I'd like a router lift, but that's not in the budget right now.

Anyway, I know y'all like pictures, so here's how I "faked" what looks like more cast iron.

A piece of 3/4" BB, 16" wide, and a sheet of 20 gauge steel:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/4_zpsbxiovs1n.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/4_zpsbxiovs1n.jpg.html)

Test fitting the wood:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/5_zpsoxbn2v0f.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/5_zpsoxbn2v0f.jpg.html)

Two coats of contact cement on the steel, five coats on the wood:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/6_zpss9brvner.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/6_zpss9brvner.jpg.html)

Clamped in the vacuum bag for an hour or so:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/7_zpsoj61uucq.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/7_zpsoj61uucq.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/8_zpsrqt30scg.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/8_zpsrqt30scg.jpg.html)

The leading edge of the Jet table has a 10 degree "ramp".
Bending the metal to that shape "forcefully gentle", wasn't as hard as I thought it would be:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/9_zpsdesqyctn.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/9_zpsdesqyctn.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/10_zpsjk3xougc.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/10_zpsjk3xougc.jpg.html)

I'd like to have the official off white color Jet uses, but I happened to have a spray can of Taupe on hand. A bit dark, but looks better than the unfinished plywood edge.

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/11_zps585w4l8m.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/11_zps585w4l8m.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/12_zpsdkmrkvkk.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/12_zpsdkmrkvkk.jpg.html)

Sanded with 320, then 120, then (shown) some car wax:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/13_zpssrjge3ps.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/13_zpssrjge3ps.jpg.html)

All done. Nice and shiny, and slick as snot.

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/14_zpsshxbwagw.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/14_zpsshxbwagw.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Folsom on 23 Jun 2015, 06:47 pm
Now you just need the giant outfeed table  :lol:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 23 Jun 2015, 07:31 pm
Right!
Actually, I need a bigger room.  :duh:
Speaking of outfeed tables.....this unit is going to serve as the outfeed table for my drum sander (once I build a rolling platform tall enough so the deck heights are the same).
That's going to be nice!
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: gregfisk on 23 Jun 2015, 08:44 pm
Nicely done, you can never have a big enough table, or room for that matter.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Folsom on 1 Jul 2015, 04:28 am
Can't use the tools if carrying it around busts your hands... Poplar, nice and fat unlike stupid snap on things you can buy. (it's wider than it's depth you can see)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=123850)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: gregfisk on 1 Jul 2015, 05:48 am
Can't use the tools if carrying it around busts your hands... Poplar, nice and fat unlike stupid snap on things you can buy. (it's wider than it's depth you can see)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=123850)

There are really nice bags these days that work great and don't have hard small handles. I don't like 5 gallon buckets for tools, the bags work much better and are designed for different uses.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Folsom on 1 Jul 2015, 06:25 pm
Ya but they're not free!
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 6 Jul 2015, 02:23 am
I had several feet of scrap "C" channel, so I thought it would be good to use as a base for the table saw.
Used the plasma cutter to cut the pieces at a 45 degree angle, and weld them back together in rectangle.
To get an idea of what I've got in mind, do a search for "table saw cabinet". 
With a very small workshop, real estate is at a maximum, so I must conserve as much area and volume as I can.
The table saw being as massive as it is, there's a bunch of "wasted" space under it.

Here's the beginning.
(Is this still acceptable to post under the "new tool" thread)?

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/17_zpsi0rtjecm.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/17_zpsi0rtjecm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Folsom on 6 Jul 2015, 02:38 am
Bob just get a Felder/Hammer tablesaw/planar/jointer combo! The tool for every man!

I remember getting good at welding in high school... Then I remember my reward was to use jet-rod to fill in the gaping caverns on the practice plates that the idiots left... oh the joys of unleashing the inferno of hell through a stick.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 6 Jul 2015, 02:42 am
 :lol: Yes.... It's a bit like that, But I'm using a MIG, so there's no stick to unleash.
I haven't welded (much) in a couple decades, so.....I've probably used a half roll of MIG wire for four simple joints.  :lol:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: JohnR on 6 Jul 2015, 01:01 pm
(Is this still acceptable to post under the "new tool" thread)?

It's absolutely fine by me! You realize I'm 100% jealous that you have a space to do this in :) (You'd also be welcome to start a dedicated thread, I absolutely won't be offended either way :) )

With that said, I'm more in portable mode, climbing about on the roof, so I've been lucky enough to snag a couple of new cordless tools the last few weeks. More on that later. At the moment, all I can say is "brushless motor" - I'm so impressed.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Don_S on 28 Nov 2015, 07:30 pm
Come on guys!  You must have scored some goodies with Black Friday deals.  What do you give the man who has too many tools?  A box to put them in.

I scored these two for $148 total at Home Depot.  27" wide base and 26" wide top cabinet.  Solid build with ball-bearing drawers. Probably not as rugged as pro mechanics models but good enough for this hacker especially since I won't be moving them. I already have a different brand that is similar in design but it runneth over. I love it.  I am always using it and it has kept me relatively sane by organizing my tools and giving me quick access.

(http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/63/6314058d-bc83-417c-9b8a-e4ea72519467_400.jpg)

(http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/af/af2aaaf4-d8de-42ac-958e-4a97bc19bc36_400.jpg)

I wanted this one but after spending several hours cleaning my garage I realized I would not be able to make enough room. It is 47" wide. My garage came with cabinets on one wall and I re-purposed my kitchen cabinets when I remodeled. That does not leave me much available space. The other downside to this cabinet is a lot of the drawers are shallow but I did drool at the full-width top drawer.   I have more use for the deeper drawers on the 27" base. And the 26" top give me enough shallow drawers for sockets, etc.

(http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/94/94c69bbc-2e70-4ddf-b69d-68750c1f6bbf_400.jpg)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 27 Apr 2016, 12:24 pm
*Bump*
So after I welded the frame (seen above), I attached a wooden deck with casters that lock both the wheel and the swivel;

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/19_zpsh6roo59u.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/19_zpsh6roo59u.jpg.html)


One man picking up a several hundred pound saw and placing it on the "deck" wasn't as option, so I hung it from the ceiling and removed the legs:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/22_zpsxogknwhb.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/22_zpsxogknwhb.jpg.html)

Then I made a base with a dust collection port for the cabinet to sit on:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/23_zpsuodethtr.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/23_zpsuodethtr.jpg.html)

"At rest"

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/25_zpshblfpyvl.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/25_zpshblfpyvl.jpg.html)

The saw is now a 60" outfeed table for the conveyor belt of the drum sander:
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/26_zpsqnqhhpqs.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/26_zpsqnqhhpqs.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/27_zps9xysgbxj.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/27_zps9xysgbxj.jpg.html)

Knowing I want a clean work surface and have limited shop space, I installed a roll of brown paper that can be puled over the deck of the saw:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/34_zps6ghpfw1i.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/34_zps6ghpfw1i.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/35_zpsvyv4b4nv.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/35_zpsvyv4b4nv.jpg.html)

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/38_zpseyxlvxkn.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/38_zpseyxlvxkn.jpg.html)

No paper:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/39_zpsvhimnmib.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/39_zpsvhimnmib.jpg.html)

With paper:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/Tools/JPS-10TS/40_zpsvuil0i5n.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/Tools/JPS-10TS/40_zpsvuil0i5n.jpg.html)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Kenneth Patchen on 27 Apr 2016, 01:09 pm
Nice work there, Bob, that, and your other projects as well. If only you lived near a boutique speaker outfit you could be building enclosures for them.
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: steve in jersey on 27 Apr 2016, 01:20 pm
Bob, I don't know if you realize that now that you've mobilized this table (& added that paper roll to the end),you have a wonderful opportunity at hand for a "side business" ...  Neighborhood Backyard Doctor Examinations & minor surgery.

Your neighbors would be thrilled to know they won't have arrange their schedules around taking a trip to the Doctor's office for a mishap they might have had. They could just call "Bob's Quick-fix & Consultations" & you can bring the "Examination Table" to them !

(Innovation is a wonderful thing. It's only limited by our Imagination.) (& maybe our Sanity ; but let's not be negative here)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 27 Apr 2016, 01:25 pm
Kenneth, yea... wouldn't that be "convenient"?  :lol:

Steve, I actually asked my wife to be my first "inspection", but she wouldn't go for it.
Maybe it was because the saw was plugged in at the time?  :scratch:
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: steve in jersey on 27 Apr 2016, 02:14 pm
I have no idea why women are always so skeptical of "seemingly ,semi-logical" ideas that we pose to them !

How logical can they actually be if they stay with us ??? (Oh wait a minute, I'm single; Nevermind !)
Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: TomS on 27 Apr 2016, 02:15 pm
Great work Bob, very creative use of the space and tools. Love the DIY table upgrades and the paper roller  :thumb:

I just added a monster combination tool (1400# worth!) here and upgraded my 2hp dust collector with Super Dust Deputy cyclone and HEPA filter. I'm just a (learning) hobbyist but it makes a huge difference in my shop, especially if you have decent airflow at the tool itself. Something to consider in that tight closed space ;-)

Title: Re: New tool!
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 27 Apr 2016, 02:24 pm
Absolutely Tom. One of my favorite tools is the dust collector. Eventually, I'll plumb the entire shop, but until then, I've just just the 4" hose hanging from the ceiling. "Someday", I'll have an actual air cleaner to get rid of the fine particles. I'd also like to have an exhaust fan to pull out the nasty smells from paints, stains, farts and chemicals instead of letting them fill the entire house.
That roll of paper has also turned out to be a good source of packing material when shipping things too. Nice bonus!