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Industry Circles => Salk Signature Sound => Topic started by: jsalk on 4 Sep 2010, 07:56 pm
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RJ and Joe are sponsoring another GTG in Oregon this year. Sorry we can't make it, but Dennis Murphy will be there.
Yesterday we shipped a pair to OR for the event. Here are some pics...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=35176)
And a close-up...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=35177)
Have a great time on the 18th and happy listening!
- Jim
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RJ and Joe are sponsoring another GTG in Oregon this year. Sorry we can't make it, but Dennis Murphy will be there.
Yesterday we shipped a pair to OR for the event. Here are some pics...
Have a great time on the 18th and happy listening!
- Jim
That finish is hypnotizing. What is it?
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That finish is hypnotizing. What is it?
From the Salk Facebook account... "1801's in cinnamon burl with "guitar burst" darker edges".
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These are absolutely stunning in the photo. We can't wait to see them in person...not to mention hear them! If these are anything like the floorstanders you brought last year, we're all in for a superb treat. By the way, if this pair doesn't make it back to Michigan, you can reach me in Brazil. :D
We'll definitely miss you and Mary this year, Jim. But we sure appreciate your continued support and sponsorship. And we'll try to keep track of that wild and crazy guy, Dennis. :lol:
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:thumb: :thumb: they sure do look sweet. If they get there early enough the rest of the guys may have to pry RJ off of them so they can be included in the comparo! :lol: Best of luck with the event Mud, I'm with you guys in spirit, even if I can't make it in body.
Cheers,
Greg
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:thumb: :thumb: they sure do look sweet. If they get there early enough the rest of the guys may have to pry RJ off of them so they can be included in the comparo! :lol: Best of luck with the event Mud, I'm with you guys in spirit, even if I can't make it in body.
Cheers,
Greg
Thanks, Greg. We need to get you up here sometime before your daughter graduates from college! :whip:
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Jim said I get to take them home after the show. $10, right Jim? :icon_lol:
Looking forward to hearing them.
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Jim said I get to take them home after the show. $10, right Jim? :icon_lol:
That is correct. $10 per month for many years to come.
- Jim
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I think if that type of payment plan was available I'd take it :) Another fantastic finish by Jim and crew.
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I think if that type of payment plan was available I'd take it :) Another fantastic finish by Jim and crew.
I concur. Wouldn't it be sweet to just be able to lease audio gear! Those of us with audio ADD would be quite happy. :D
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10 bucks a month... I'm sold too!
And the comment about Audio ADD and leasing... classic! I couldn't agree more. I can be very easily classified as having audio ADD.
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Are these available for purchase? The size is perfect. I need something that fits underneath my projection screen. The SongTowers are too high.
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Are these available for purchase? The size is perfect. I need something that fits underneath my projection screen. The SongTowers are too high.
You can get anything that physics allows, call Jim he will make it happen if possible on any speaker. Gotta love custom work :thumb:. And the finish looks excellent, sure they sound good.
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I always thought this was the way the 1801's were offered up until the TL cabinet was made for them. Pretty sure Jim makes them in either flavor much like he does with the HT2 design which can be either a bookshelf or a floorstander. (As well as being offered in a TL design.)
Here is a link to them on Jim's website..............http://www.salksound.com/ellis%201801b%20-%20home.htm (http://www.salksound.com/ellis%201801b%20-%20home.htm)
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Are these available for purchase? The size is perfect. I need something that fits underneath my projection screen. The SongTowers are too high.
Actually, the Ellis 1801's was the design that got me started building speakers in the first place. I have always loved this speaker and have built them for years. When Dave decided to discontinue building or offering these, I asked him for permission to continue building them. He basically turned the design over to us. Dennis re-worked the crossover for the current version of the W18 and we announced the 1801-TL version at the same time. We hope to be building this speaker for many years to come. It is a classic.
- Jim
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Actually, the Ellis 1801's was the design that got me started building speakers in the first place. I have always loved this speaker and have built them for years. When Dave decided to discontinue building or offering these, I asked him for permission to continue building them. He basically turned the design over to us. Dennis re-worked the crossover for the current version of the W18 and we announced the 1801-TL version at the same time. We hope to be building this speaker for many years to come. It is a classic.
The 1801 was what lead me to Jim and my wonderful speaker journey. I am slow, but it took me a long time to realize the special charms of the 1801. With the same tweeter as the SongTowers, I bet it images close to the SongTowers. If that is so, then with the large reduced price compared to the HT1, it would have a very special place. A true classic.
Bob
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Is it possible to make these 1801s attach to my custom speaker stands? These are made out of real cherry stock and I've had them for quite a while.
You can see the generic mounting hardware I have installed at the top. Simple ball-joint with I believe a 1/2" or 3/8" bolt with lock nut.
Entire piece stands at 23" and the usable space from the base up to the ball-joint is 16.5"
I've filled the base with iron weights and sand. The stand weights about 30lbs.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=35328)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=35329)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=35330)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=35331)
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Is it possible to make these 1801s attach to my custom speaker stands? These are made out of real cherry stock and I've had them for quite a while.
You can see the generic mounting hardware I have installed at the top. Simple ball-joint with I believe a 1/2" or 3/8" bolt with lock nut.
I don't see why not. We would need to know the actual diameter and the number of threads per inch. We would just install an insert that would accept it.
We could even try and match the color.
- Jim
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How long does it take to make a pair of these?
I currently have a pair of Song Towers - do you accept trade ins?
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How long does it take to make a pair of these?
I would say about 45 days.
I currently have a pair of Song Towers - do you accept trade ins?
Trade-ins make sense when moving up in price. For example, we have quite a few people who have traded SongTowers in on HT2-TL's. But on a lateral move, it really isn't feasible. We can certainly help you try and sell the SongTowers.
- Jim
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Wow, those are sexy speakers! You better take good care of them, RJ. :D
I think I've already chosen the best appearance award, and the event hasn't even started yet. :lol:
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Wow, those are sexy speakers! You better take good care of them, RJ. :D
You betcha I will. My wife is going to wonder if I left her for another.... :lol:
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Be it one of the speakers at the GTG or something else (HT2-TL cough cough), I have a bad feeling I'm going to leave the GTG wanting some new speakers to try out.
I better start selling blood, sperm, and maybe even body parts.
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Hi Looking forward to seeing you there. Off-topic question. I'm getting these green highlighted markers on key words in posts that take you to "Sushi" when you click on them. Wussup wit dat? Is that at my end, or is everyone getting the same deal?
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Hi Dennis :wave: Not seeing any of that here. Not sure what would be the cause ? Might mention it to JohnR though as it definetly sounds 'spammer-esque'. Sorry I won't get to meet you this year. A continuing saga from last year when I couldn't make it down with the "Kent Songtowers", and meet Jim and Mary. If Mud, BelowAvgJoe, and MajorLoser will allow I'd hope to make it next year. Maybe you'll enjoy the visit enough to come back and see more of the great Northwest.
Hi RJ :wave: I'd have been in touch with you guys, but the previously noted situation is on-going. Will keep my fingers crossed for next year. Have a fantastic time, and we'll hope for nice weather.
JD
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Hmmm.... thinking Dennis needs to cool it on the wacky weed. :o
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Hmmm.... thinking Dennis needs to cool it on the wacky weed. :o
That post was not particularly appreciated.
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Hi Dennis :wave: Not seeing any of that here. Not sure what would be the cause ? Might mention it to JohnR though as it definetly sounds 'spammer-esque'. Sorry I won't get to meet you this year. A continuing saga from last year when I couldn't make it down with the "Kent Songtowers", and meet Jim and Mary. If Mud, BelowAvgJoe, and MajorLoser will allow I'd hope to make it next year. Maybe you'll enjoy the visit enough to come back and see more of the great Northwest.
Hi RJ :wave: I'd have been in touch with you guys, but the previously noted situation is on-going. Will keep my fingers crossed for next year. Have a fantastic time, and we'll hope for nice weather.
JD
:wave:
JD, it's so good to hear from you. But I worry that you're still fighting issues up there. Hopefully you're doing well and staying the course. We'll miss you again. I think you're going to be missing out on hearing some of the best stand-mount speakers on the planet.
The weather here has been strange this year in the NW...yes?! Very cool and very dry. Jim and Mary brought the best weather of the season with them, last year. We'll see if Dennis can do the same. :thumb:
Take care.
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Jim would you comment on these compared to the Bagby Continuums as far as sound quality, imaging etc the usual stuff?
Thanks
Alex
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Jim would you comment on these compared to the Bagby Continuums as far as sound quality, imaging etc the usual stuff?
Thanks
Alex
In a way, that is like comparing apples to oranges.
The Continuums are a very good design with good drivers and a well-executed crossover. It is a small sealed bookshelf speaker. As such, it does not play all that deep.
The 1801's are a larger stand-mounted speaker with the incomparable 7" Seas Excel W18 in a ported cabinet. So the 1801's will play quite a bit deeper and the midrange will tend to be more detailed. Couple that with the Hiquphon OW1, one of the finest 3/4" silk dome tweeters being made today, and you have an extremely accurate, detailed and refined speaker.
The Continuum is a very fine speaker. No doubt about that. But the drivers in the 1801 are twice as expensive and that puts the 1801's in a different league.
Both speakers image very well.
- Jim
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Thanks Jim,
That was what I wanted to know...
Alex
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Just a quick word from Oregon--We're wrapping up the Great NW event. Lots of Internet speakers to judge blind and sighted--totally embarassing for yours truly, but I won't go into that now. Thanks to RJ and Joe for incredible efforts and a great, educational day. Now it's back to the grind in Wash. D.C. (for another 2 weeks, and then I'm totally retired. Outta there.)
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Just a quick word from Oregon--We're wrapping up the Great NW event. Lots of Internet speakers to judge blind and sighted--totally embarassing for yours truly, but I won't go into that now. Thanks to RJ and Joe for incredible efforts and a great, educational day. Now it's back to the grind in Wash. D.C. (for another 2 weeks, and then I'm totally retired. Outta there.)
Heh...there could be some blackmailing to do in my future. :lol:
We had a GREAT time at the GTG. The sponsors and participants were all superb. Joe and I are humbled with appreciation.
I think Jim will enjoy the summary reports! And the event would have been much poorer without Dennis, his inspiration, and his fine measurement and switching gear. We'll post some more when we get a bit fresher and get the reports and photos organized.
Proof that Dennis was enjoying himself and did not fall asleep during auditioning ('twas a LONG weekend for him)....Now I'm headed off to Brazil with a few of these speakers........... :eyebrows:
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee52/Tomorrow_10/P1000530.jpg)
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Heh...there could be some blackmailing to do in my future. :lol:
We had a GREAT time at the GTG. The sponsors and participants were all superb. Joe and I are humbled with appreciation.
I think Jim will enjoy the summary reports! And the event would have been much poorer without Dennis, his inspiration, and his fine measurement and switching gear. We'll post some more when we get a bit fresher and get the reports and photos organized.
Proof that Dennis was enjoying himself and did not fall asleep during auditioning ('twas a LONG weekend for him)....Now I'm headed off to Brazil with a few of these speakers........... :eyebrows:
(http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee52/Tomorrow_10/P1000530.jpg)
I look forward to reading about it. :)
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I've been waiting for more goodies on the Oregon GTG reporting front but ... where are the juicy details?! How did the Ellis 1801 sound compared to the others? And so on, and so on. Thanks in advance! Hopefully, not too far in advance. :lol:
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Sorry to everyone for taking so long to post some impressions of the GTG. Just been busy this week. I'll put some thoughts out later tonight. It was a VERY interesting day for me.
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I've been waiting for more goodies on the Oregon GTG reporting front but ... where are the juicy details?! How did the Ellis 1801 sound compared to the others? And so on, and so on. Thanks in advance! Hopefully, not too far in advance. :lol:
Mudslide is probably still trying to read my writing. There was no point scoring system or a summary ranking--just subjective impressions in several categories (resolution, bass accuracy, dynamics, etc). I did walk away with some sense of the crowd reaction, and all I can say is that what I think were the most preferred speakers also had the flattest measurements. But most of them sounded quite similar. There were certainly no bow wows.
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I know the guy seated front right. He is a well respected speaker designer. So look forward to the comments on the gathering
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Hey all.
Be patient just a tad longer. I'm still catching up from the long weekend. :oops: It finally stopped raining long enough yesterday to get our first photographs of the speakers. I should have the summary reports published by this weekend.
From what I've seen of the reports thus far, Dennis is right on the money. :D
Many thanks to Mike and others who will be posting their thoughts. (You all will...won't you?!)
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Just a quick note to let everyone know that these speakers are available for sale. They are currently in Lincoln City, OR. So anyone in the area could get a great deal on them in addition to saving shipping costs.
A standard pair of 1801's is $1999. The cinnamon burl veneer runs about $350 and we would throw that in for free. So, for $1999, you would be saving about $425 total on this pair if you picked them up.
If anyone outside of the Oregon area were interested, the $1999 price would still apply and we could have them shipped directly from OR to you. So you would still save the cost of the premium veneer.
Just thought someone might be interested...
- Jim
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I know the guy seated front right. He is a well respected speaker designer. So look forward to the comments on the gathering
I don't. Who is everyone in the pic (besides Dennis Murhpy, seated in the back left)?
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I don't. Who is everyone in the pic (besides Dennis Murhpy, seated in the back left)?
Hi Brandon.
Front left - right - back = mchuckp (AC/AVS), Ken Humphreys (Aperion designer), Dennis, Rickster71 (Audioholics), Going Long (AVS), farmingdad (AVS), empty chair (me :D). Two auditioners were missing in action.
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Okay guys. I've been riding the white horse of neutrality getting past the GTG auditioning format design, setup, and summary reporting. Like a good loudspeaker ( :lol:) I've tried to present all the inputs with clarity, honesty, and with interest.
Now it's time to get a little subjective.
I REALLY loved the Salk Ellis 1801's that were here. They were my favorite speaker. And along with another pair here, one that was reasonably close in performance, they were far and away my preference for ownership. (Now I just have to save more Pepsi cans faster.) I had no idea what speaker I was describing during the blinded session...but my comments were such as...(Resolution) "Heard things other speakers hadn't presented", (Bass) "Very clean", (Mids) "Very neutral", (Transparency) "I like the touch...on all presentations from delicate to powerful", (Transients) "Very good", (Visceral Impact) "Man, I'm involved", (Soundstage) "Filled the stage...great on vocals", and (Dynamics) "Easy as pie! Effortless."
I really don't want to go down the path of "winner vs. loser" in the GTG comparo. Everyone has his or her subjective favorite sound. But I did want to get my opinion in here as to the fabulous performance of this Salk model. IMHO, it matches the high standard of quality I came to expect from Jim's designs that I heard last year (SS-12, HT2, HT1TL, ST-QWT).
Congrats on yet another fantastic model, Jim. And many thanks once again for your support and sponsorship of our little gig.
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Is there a dedicated thread somewhere? I'd love to read all about it, and about the other speakers as well. And thanks for the people introduction, RJ. I wish I could have made it!
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Is there a dedicated thread somewhere? I'd love to read all about it, and about the other speakers as well. And thanks for the people introduction, RJ. I wish I could have made it!
Here you go, Brandon. http://forums.audioholics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67150
This is the first page. The audition summaries are somewhere around page 10. Enjoy. :D
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Thank you, RJ.
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These speakers have been sold.
- Jim
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These speakers have been sold.
- Jim
Mine! :green:
I will use them in a bedroom setup.
Mudslide, what type of stands were you using for these? I'm looking at these stands.
http://www.audio-video-furniture.com/Lovan-L-JA3BB-9618-Jazz-3-Post-18-Speaker-Stand.htm
Sorry about stealing the 1801s away from you.
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Mine! :green:
I will use them in a bedroom setup.
Mudslide, what type of stands were you using for these? I'm looking at these stands.
http://www.audio-video-furniture.com/Lovan-L-JA3BB-9618-Jazz-3-Post-18-Speaker-Stand.htm
Sorry about stealing the 1801s away from you.
It looks like I didn't save up my Pepsi cans as fast as I needed to. :bawl: I'll miss these. But I think they're going to a very nice home. Congrats...you're going to be REALLY spoiled. By the way, if you're going to put these in the bedroom...warning*warning*warning...the 1801's have the power to evoke a lot of emotion. :wink:
We used a variety of stands with the Salks, mostly 18 inchers. All looked and performed great sitting under those beautiful 1801's. Those that you chose should be perfect.
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RJ - I loved your write-up on Audioholics. Your writing skills rock! I especially appreciated how you were able to convey your (and the other's) emotions in your writing. Just reading the summaries of each speaker gave me the feeling of being with you. Thanks!
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RJ - I loved your write-up on Audioholics. Your writing skills rock! I especially appreciated how you were able to convey your (and the other's) emotions in your writing. Just reading the summaries of each speaker gave me the feeling of being with you. Thanks!
Those are very kind words, Brandon. Many thanks. I try.
Maybe one of these years you'll grace us with a visit! :D
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These arrived in perfect shape and sound great. Thanks!
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Those are very kind words, Brandon. Many thanks. I try.
Maybe one of these years you'll grace us with a visit! :D
I don't know about "grace," but I'll certainly make it for one of the next ones.
These arrived in perfect shape and sound great. Thanks!
That's fantastic news. Will you be comparing them to Kirk's Usher's? I think that would be an awesome listening session!