All I can say is - wow! Speakers as art! Man, am I ever glad I stumbled across Audio Circle. My wallet and wife aren't necessarily as happy but I sure am! I may be needing to replace speakers next year and these are very high on my list! Along with GR Diluceo's. Would love a chance to hear either of them. Main reason for the choice is the opportunity for Darren to make some enclosures for me! Man, that is impressive! It would be a crime to use grills with anything you make!