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Title: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: doorman on 7 Jan 2017, 08:46 pm
As an very infrequent visitor to the Hawthorne website, I was surprised to get an "account suspended"
notice on trying to Log-in. Anybody know if they're still going ?
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: barryso on 8 Jan 2017, 01:41 am
According to a friend who's talked to Darrel it appears they are done.

It's a shame.  They had great customer service and their forum was full of very enthusiastic folks. 
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: sonicxtc on 8 Jan 2017, 01:44 am
Awesome speakers.
Fantastic customer service.
Darrel is truly one of the good guys in the audio world.
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: SlushPuppy on 8 Jan 2017, 02:03 am
According to a friend who's talked to Darrel it appears they are done.

It's a shame.  They had great customer service and their forum was full of very enthusiastic folks.

That's too bad. They had a great forum. I learned a lot there.
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Rocket_Ronny on 8 Jan 2017, 06:29 am
This is very sad news. All that has been said is true. While I never was customer or reseller, I almost was several times.

I know the audio market is taking a kicking now with the low oil price hurting the economy, so it's hurting us all in audio land with this loss.

Another big pressure would be the rise of Spatial Audio and Clayton's powerhouse speaker line.

Anyway sad news for all of us. Would be nice if Darrel chimed in.

Rocket Ronny
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: JLM on 8 Jan 2017, 11:20 am
From a mutual friend (who initially mentored Darrel):

Their site got severely hacked.  Darrel and Diana continue to be busy with their primary income of doing historic restoration, so they decided to retire the audio business.  Last I heard, they had 7 years of restoration work on the books.

I knew Darrel from before Hawthorne.  I hosted a 3 person audiofest where he brought in huge 2-way Fostex based bipole horns.  The next time we met was at a larger audiofest where he presented the Silver Iris, raw.  The mutual friend built the early crossovers.  Always enjoyed Diana's cookies at audiofests.   :oops: :green:

I always wondered if they hadn't sort of lost their way moving from the simple and remarkable Silver Iris/Sterling Silver Iris.  Hope that niche gets filled as I'm not aware of another similar commercial offering.
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Early B. on 8 Jan 2017, 02:35 pm
Sad to hear. I have a pair of what I believe is Hawthorne's last creation -- OB monitors with a cultured marble/ceramic baffle. 
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Rocket_Ronny on 8 Jan 2017, 03:02 pm
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Darrel and Diana continue to be busy with their primary income of doing historic restoration

What sort of historic restoration are we talking about?

Rocket Ronny
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 8 Jan 2017, 03:49 pm
What sort of historic restoration are we talking about?

Rocket Ronny
Marshall Michigan is one of those places where you have to contact the local government before you have your house painted
 to ensure the color you want is appropriate for your subdivision. It is a living breathing Normal Rockwell town.

As far as Hawthorne Audio is concerned, I'm crushed they're gone. I currently own 15 of their drivers, so to say "I'm a fan", is an understatement.

As far as Darrel and Diana are concerned, I pray they have a healthy, happy and prosperous life going back to their ol passion of maintaining historic homes.
I cherish the time I had with them, both on the forum and the night they spent at my home so many years ago.
Here's a photo of me (left), Darrel, Diana, and my daughter:

(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/BobinStLouis/DSC_0015.jpg) (http://s85.photobucket.com/user/BobinStLouis/media/DSC_0015.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Early B. on 8 Jan 2017, 08:34 pm
Yep, I just confirmed it directly that Darrel and Diana decided to retire. Hawthorne Audio is history. They're having a great time traveling. They sent me some awesome pics.

Because they can now be made smaller, open baffle speakers have the potential of getting the attention they deserve. I believe there's a tremendous opportunity for a speaker manufacturer to fill the DIY void they left behind. Danny Richie -- are you reading this? 

I really wish more speaker manufacturers would consider adopting the approach Hawthorne Audio was pursuing with regard to offering cultured marble baffles. There's so many more advantages over MDF. 
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Philistine on 9 Jan 2017, 06:23 pm
The first OB speakers I heard were a former AC members Sterling Silver Iris's with Auggies, after years of upgradeitus he settled on this system and never looked back.  I enjoyed them so much I contacted Darryl and started to discuss a similar pair, ultimately I finished up with GR Research Super V's and V2's - the smaller scale of Danny's design and his x-over expertise sealed it for me.  Throughout my exposure to Darryl he was a pleasure to communicate with, generous with his time and a true professional, I wish him well in his 'retirement'.

Like my AC friend I too no longer have the desire to look for better gear because I'm not happy, my system sounds musical and is a lot of fun to listen to.  I have to thank Darryl for exposing me to the joy of OB speakers... 
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: mcgsxr on 9 Jan 2017, 06:39 pm
I never owned a set of his speakers, but I know a lot of folks who were happy with them.

I found their forum (I lurked a fair amount) very open (hee hee) and friendly.

I wish he and his family the best during this next phase of their lives!
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Folsom on 9 Jan 2017, 08:36 pm
I had a pair that made their way to my father's TV setup. He still likes them a lot, enough that we put them in new baffles. But really, I wanted to have them outside again, that was amazing... (although it was at a memorial for my grandfather, damn it sounded good)
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: crazyivan on 18 Feb 2017, 03:22 pm
Hi all, have been away from this forum for a minute....ok maybe a decade or so...but, was sad to learn of HA's demise.
 
I had been looking at a pair of 15" Augies for a while to go with my OB speakers and after looking some more realized that they were going to be my best solution, and the price was right...but then found I couldn't raise their website and wondered what was up...then came across this thread.

I did find, however, that the Augies (just the Augies and apparently nothing else HA made) are currently available (while supplies last, I'm sure) on Amazon - the listing for the seller reads "Hawthorne Audio". There were 10 listed in stock and I just bought 2. Heck, with them going out of business, I would've had to start my search over for something that didn't break the bank...I looked at Danny's plate amps w/ six 8" servos, but that, while very nice sounding I'm sure, would cost me around $1600...whenever the 8's come back in stock again, anyway. But, I was really happy with the choice of the Augies though, and so much cheaper.

Anyway, the main reason I'm posting this is to let anyone know that this is foreseeably the last chance for anyone to own the Augies in new condition.

Once again, it's sad they were forced to move on, but I wish them well and here's hoping they are now looking forward happily to their restoration business.

Cheers to all.

John
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: nicoch on 19 Feb 2017, 07:45 pm
sad !
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: hurdy_gurdyman on 19 Feb 2017, 08:56 pm
Darrel and Diana will, indeed, be missed in the audio world. Darrel and Diana and I have had lots of conversations together about audio stuff, music in general and anything else that popped up. We even went to a large folk festival!
I was very honored when Darrel asked me to build crossovers for his Silver Iris 15" coaxial after I helped design  an improved XO on my own. Later I helped (with Jarred Harding) design his Sterling Silver 15" Coaxial. I own one pair of each of his PSI and SSI models and I feel very blessed to have such wonderful speakers in my home.
I'll really miss the forum that we and so many wonderful people built up over the years. It was a very friendly and informative place to hang out.
I'll remain a friend of Darrel and Diana and am happy they are going places they want to see and experience.

Dave Leonard
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: danali on 22 Feb 2017, 03:09 am
Sad news, have had a pair of the original diy baffles for a long time. Listened to them this weekend with a chip amp.
They always sound great.
Thanks much Hawthorne!
GREAT customer service!
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: mightym on 13 Mar 2017, 11:16 pm
This is from Face Book, I hope Darrel doesn't mind me sharing it here....

At the close of 2016 a decision was made to end our 12 year run of Hawthorne Audio. Diana and I felt that the time was ideal for us to retire. After some careful consideration we felt that our time of doing audio was over. 12 years, 45 countries and 1000’s of satisfied customers proudly served. While it is true that for us this chapter of our lives has ended we did wish that all of the innovations, discoveries and exclusive products we developed could somehow live on. This wish seems to have been heard and is well on it’s way to becoming a reality.

We have been contacted by a team of individuals in Canada that shares in this dream of keeping Hawthorne Audio alive. They offered to make this happen and we set about to see if this would be mutually beneficial and in keeping with our original desires. It is with great pleasure that we make this announcement. The passing of the torch is complete and we look forward to seeing where these folks take Hawthorne Audio.
For those customers familiar with the brand we have made it possible for our exclusive line of OB specific drivers to continue to be available and featured in a fresh new line of baffles and kits. Look for a continuation of innovations and product development as we move forward.

In closing, Diana and I would like to once again reach out to the Audio community with gratitude and thanks for all of the sales, encouragements, well wishes and especially for all of the friends we met along the way. This has been an adventure of a life time that we will long treasure.

Cheers,
Darrel
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 13 Mar 2017, 11:27 pm
Thank you for posting that.
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Wind Chaser on 14 Mar 2017, 02:49 am
That's good news. Guess it just be a matter of time before the new owners get the ball rolling.
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Wind Chaser on 26 Oct 2017, 06:08 pm
So I spoke with the new owner today. Not sure if I can spill the beans, but I can say with all certainty many of Darrel's products will continue and many of his other ideas are in development as we speak. Stay tuned...

Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 26 Oct 2017, 07:13 pm
Interesting. Is it the Canadians?
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Wind Chaser on 26 Oct 2017, 10:23 pm
Very Canadian, but close to the border. Manufacturing in Kelowna BC, about an hour north of where I live, which is about another hour from the WA state line.
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 26 Oct 2017, 10:39 pm
Very Canadian, but close to the border. Manufacturing in Kelowna BC, about an hour north of where I live, which is about another hour from the WA state line.
Thank you. I assume the drivers are still the original ones designed by Darrel and built by Eminence?
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: mresseguie on 26 Oct 2017, 11:01 pm
Good news!

Kelowna is getting better every year.
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Wind Chaser on 27 Oct 2017, 12:00 am
Thank you. I assume the drivers are still the original ones designed by Darrel and built by Eminence?

Yes, that is correct. But nothing sits still and there are some new product developments forthcoming, including DIY drop in replacement compression drivers and modular crossovers.
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 27 Oct 2017, 01:47 am
Yes, that is correct. But nothing sits still and there are some new product developments forthcoming, including DIY drop in replacement compression drivers and modular crossovers.
Roger that, thank you.
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: jdaun on 1 Nov 2017, 03:45 pm
@Wind Chaser  -

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some new product developments forthcoming, including DIY drop in replacement compression drivers and modular crossovers.

That is exciting to hear!

I own a pair of Hawthorne Sterling Silver Iris (SSI) duets, and I've been exploring how to take them to the next level (specifically I'm looking at upgrading the wiring and crossover components - Jantzen coils, adding bypass caps).

But if there are upgraded compression drivers or crossovers in the pipe for the SSI that could totally change my plans, so I'd love to hear more.

Anything else you can share at this time? 

Thanks!
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: Wind Chaser on 1 Nov 2017, 05:05 pm
Anything else you can share at this time? 

I have to call him about something else so I'll try fishing for a little more information.
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: orensemaj on 4 Nov 2017, 12:47 am
Hi,

I am very interested in a probable date that the Hawthorne Audio products might be available again. I have Duets and I am looking at purchasing another pair locally but I will wait if the new products won't be too long coming to market. If you are talking to the prospective new supplier for the products ask if he can give an estimated date for products to be available. Thanks.

James
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: jdaun on 1 Dec 2017, 10:28 pm
Hi Wind Chaser -

Curious if you managed to fish out any additional info you could share on the new Hawthorne Audio, and upcoming product offerings?

Thanks!
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: hatehifi on 27 Oct 2023, 05:46 pm
Hello and help, please…

For a friend I’m looking to make contact with the AMT tweeter once supplied by Hawthorne: Sierra Performance Labs‘ 700 LM 12 O American made Transducer. I’m as well as my friend located in Germany. The German importer (audio int‘l), Herman Hoffmann, has passed on (R.I.P.), and now my friend cannot meet orders for his upscale line of speakers [designed over three years!] for lack of the supplier!

Thanks so much for any and all help. Kindly PM me if possible.

Again, Mille Grazie!
John
Title: Re: What happened to Hawthorne Audio ?
Post by: kd4ylq on 27 Oct 2023, 09:25 pm
This is indeed wonderful news. The original speakers were built with beautiful woods and craftsmanship reeking of love. The drivers, crossovers and configurations were also quite excellent. I wish them a growing bevy of customers and long-lived success!