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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #420 on: 20 Jul 2012, 05:38 pm »
  Are the new black drivers Axiom or did you go for another brand like Scanspeak? :) Will the Bryston dealers , (Vancouver) be handling these?

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We are using the Black diaphragms and they are custom to the Model T and designed by Ian and Andrew at Axiom for us.

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« Reply #421 on: 20 Jul 2012, 05:42 pm »
  James ,what do you think the price will be approximately ( especially the passive version)? :thumb:

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Initially $6,495 US/Canadian suggested list per pair -  passive version.

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #422 on: 20 Jul 2012, 05:47 pm »
I have a preliminary brochure on the Passive speakers if anyone wants to see and comment email me @.

jamestanner@bryston.com


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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #423 on: 20 Jul 2012, 06:08 pm »
Hi,

Initially $6,495 US/Canadian suggested list per pair -  passive version.

james

Excellent! I'm saving up.


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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #424 on: 20 Jul 2012, 07:59 pm »
Hi,

Initially $6,495 US/Canadian suggested list per pair -  passive version.

james

James, will the passive versions need more than a 4BSST2 to drive them fully?

Cheers

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« Reply #425 on: 20 Jul 2012, 09:05 pm »
hi James,

What would be the advised setup, already owning 2 28b's? Active, passive, and what configuration. Stereo that is?
(and a 10bsub with a single subwoofer...)

Marius


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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #426 on: 20 Jul 2012, 09:33 pm »
James, will the passive versions need more than a 4BSST2 to drive them fully?

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They are 91dB efficient so a 4B is fine.  :thumb:

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« Reply #427 on: 20 Jul 2012, 09:35 pm »
hi James,

What would be the advised setup, already owning 2 28b's? Active, passive, and what configuration. Stereo that is?
(and a 10bsub with a single subwoofer...)

Marius

I would go with the Signature version and use the 28s. No need for a sub - these go to 25Hz in my room. 

James

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #428 on: 20 Jul 2012, 09:49 pm »
Hi James.
Thanks, got the brochure. If I go for the signatures, and use the 28b's, how would I have to use the crossover? I see separate in-and outputs. Do they need separate amps?

Marius

btw,
my sub goes a bit further than the 25hz model T delivers. Would it still be possible to use it with the 10bsub?

I would go with the Signature version and use the 28s. No need for a sub - these go to 25Hz in my room. 

James

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #429 on: 20 Jul 2012, 09:59 pm »
Hi James.
Thanks, got the brochure. If I go for the signatures, and use the 28b's, how would I have to use the crossover? I see separate in-and outputs. Do they need separate amps?

Marius

btw,
my sub goes a bit further than the 25hz model T delivers. Would it still be possible to use it with the 10bsub?

Hi Marius

Yes you can use a single amp on the input with a bridging link on the crossover. Yes you could use the 10B and crossover at 40Hz.

James
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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #430 on: 20 Jul 2012, 10:14 pm »
I would go with the Signature version and use the 28s. No need for a sub - these go to 25Hz in my room. 

James

The Axiom M80 specs are:

Freq Resp +/-3dB (Hz):   
34 Hz – 20 kHz

And

Freq Resp +3dB- 9dB (Hz):   
25 Hz – 20 kHz

James, using the same +/- 3dB, and +3dB - 9dB, what at the Model T Passive specs?


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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #431 on: 21 Jul 2012, 12:08 am »
I just looked over the brochure - very nice James!

........and how do they sound?

Bill

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« Reply #432 on: 21 Jul 2012, 12:45 am »
The Axiom M80 specs are:

Freq Resp +/-3dB (Hz):   
34 Hz – 20 kHz

And

Freq Resp +3dB- 9dB (Hz):   
25 Hz – 20 kHz

James, using the same +/- 3dB, and +3dB - 9dB, what at the Model T Passive specs?

Hi Dave

I will have to ask Ian - I just know in my room I get 25 Hz without a problem.  I do not think the specs though tell the difference as so much of the differences are in dynamic capability through the same frequency range.

james

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #433 on: 21 Jul 2012, 01:09 am »
Ok, I am not sure whether I understand this correctly.
I am not knowledgeable about crossovers. Or am I making this way too complicated.

So for the signature series each speaker would come with a separate crossover box.

I have the 28b's.

Could I hook it up this way. Or is there a better way.

For each speaker
  Put one output from the 28b to the external passive crossover input woofer.
  Put the other output from the 28b to the external passive crossover input Midrange.

  In this case where would I put the bridge between the Mid and tweeter on the external passive crossover.
  Do i put the bridge on the external passive crossover input, or the output.

  Then I could put the speaker cable from the external passive crossover output woofer to the speaker woofer.
  Then I could put the speaker cable from the external passive crossover output Midrange to the speaker 
    midrange.

  Then do one of the following for the tweeter.
    A third cable from the external passive crossover output tweeter to the speaker tweeter.
    Or, a bridge from the midrange to the tweeter on the speaker itself.     

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #434 on: 21 Jul 2012, 01:18 am »
Hi Dave

I will have to ask Ian - I just know in my room I get 25 Hz without a problem.  I do not think the specs though tell the difference as so much of the differences are in dynamic capability through the same frequency range.

james

Thanks James. I hope Ian can give us the numbers. I know that they do not tell the whole story, but having them will help a bit given what I know about the M80 and how it sounds in my room.

This may be yet another Bryston product I might buy sight unseen, so the more I know, the easier it will be justify making the jump, as I did with the BDP-1, BDA-1, and Torus C15 (when Bryston was marketing Torus).

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #435 on: 21 Jul 2012, 02:30 am »
Ok, I am not sure whether I understand this correctly.
I am not knowledgeable about crossovers. Or am I making this way too complicated.

So for the signature series each speaker would come with a separate crossover box.

I have the 28b's.

Could I hook it up this way. Or is there a better way.

For each speaker
  Put one output from the 28b to the external passive crossover input woofer.
  Put the other output from the 28b to the external passive crossover input Midrange.

  In this case where would I put the bridge between the Mid and tweeter on the external passive crossover.
  Do i put the bridge on the external passive crossover input, or the output.

  Then I could put the speaker cable from the external passive crossover output woofer to the speaker woofer.
  Then I could put the speaker cable from the external passive crossover output Midrange to the speaker 
    midrange.

  Then do one of the following for the tweeter.
    A third cable from the external passive crossover output tweeter to the speaker tweeter.
    Or, a bridge from the midrange to the tweeter on the speaker itself.   

The Bryston Model T loudspeaker will be available in 3 versions:

1. Passive 3-way with internal crossover

2. Passive 3-way with external crossover

3. Active 3-way with external Bryston DSP Electronic crossover

So with the Passive version and the Signature version the input can use 3 pairs of wires or with bridging pins one wire.  The outputs then will use 3 wires to feed the 3 sets of inputs on the back of the speaker.

james

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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #436 on: 21 Jul 2012, 11:45 am »
HI James,

Could you please explain some more about the differences between crossovers in

2. Passive 3-way with external crossover

3. Active 3-way with external Bryston DSP Electronic crossover ?

And what the latter DSP Electronic does differently from the 'standard' external crossover?

Thanks,
Marius



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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #437 on: 21 Jul 2012, 12:07 pm »
HI James,

Could you please explain some more about the differences between crossovers in

2. Passive 3-way with external crossover

3. Active 3-way with external Bryston DSP Electronic crossover ?

And what the latter DSP Electronic does differently from the 'standard' external crossover?

Thanks,
Marius

Hi Marius,

The 3 way Signature version external crossover  is PASSIVE but the DSP is Active - so the DSP goes in between the preamp and the 3 amplifiers whereas the Passive outboard crossover goes between the single Amplifier and the Speaker.

james



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Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #438 on: 21 Jul 2012, 12:33 pm »
Wow, James you have certianly been a busy boy :)

So it is official, the Model T is definately coming to retail?

When are we likely to see them? Will they be coming to the UK? I'd be very keen to grab a pair for demo :wink:

Marius

Re: Bryston Loudspeakers
« Reply #439 on: 21 Jul 2012, 12:36 pm »
O right, that's very clear  :duh:
sorry for that...

since we're on this topic: there are no other 'tone control' or crossover-settings options/differences between them? A la 10bsub, to taylor them to the auditorium? That would be a rather important aspect for selection on this side..

Marius

Hi Marius,

The 3 way Signature version external crossover  is PASSIVE but the DSP is Active - so the DSP goes in between the preamp and the 3 amplifiers whereas the Passive outboard crossover goes between the single Amplifier and the Speaker.

james