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Industry Circles => Odyssey Audio => Topic started by: Barry on 22 May 2004, 06:46 pm

Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Barry on 22 May 2004, 06:46 pm
We are excited that odysseyaudiohk, odysseyaudiomx, odysseyaudiosg, odysseyaudiodk are operating now and more to come.  We have been considering set up of a forum of our own and not decided yet.  I think it is better to raise the question here and hear your feedback.

Appreciate your suggestion and comment.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: moyses on 23 May 2004, 12:31 am
Hi Barry
Firstly, I would like to include www.odysseyaudiobr.com (Brazil) in your  list. Although the site is operative it's not ready yet. I am relying heavily on my friend Eduardo from Mexico to help me finish it, since I consider myself quite an internet dummy.
Regarding your suggestion of a specific Odyssey forum I think it's a good one, but considering my modest knowledge of the subject I am afraid that's about all I can say.  
Best Regards,
Moyses
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Barry on 23 May 2004, 04:58 pm
Don't worry.  It is not going to be technical.  But the more fundamental quesiton is that whether people prefer AudioCircle or other local audiophile forum or a forum just for Odyssey.
Major driving force:
Support private communication among us, Odyssey Audio world wide network.
Support international language.  We can set-up forum per country and people can use their prefered languages there.
Support set-up of forum for special purpose.
- product support
- special interest group (we may let some customers be the moderators)

But I'm not sure whether Odyssey customers join AudioCircle mainly for Odyssey forum or they are active in other forums.  Whether they are willing to join one another site.  That's why I'd like to hear their feedback and suggestion.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Carlman on 23 May 2004, 05:04 pm
As a user/buyer of gear in general, I would always prefer having everything in one place.  You have almost unlimited freedom within your own circle.  What would be gained by the added complexity of having your own forum to moderate?  Would you keep one here?  Seems like that would accomplish nothing... people who love Odyssey would frequent AC less and Odyssey more but people who are interested but have not YET bought Odyssey gear would be on AC... and wouldn't check out Odyssey's forum frequently if at all.  

So, from a marketing perspective, it doesn't make sense... Maybe I'm missing something but I don't know what a new, separate forum would accomplish for Odyssey.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: KarlDL on 24 May 2004, 03:01 am
Agree with Carlman, mostly.  I do dislike accessing multiple web sites to find related info.  Best to keep it in one place: either here or as a link off Klaus's site.  Perhaps the "international community" has its own unique issues to discuss, but, IMHO, all Odyssey owners gain the most from one place to go for info exchange.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Eduardo AAVM on 24 May 2004, 06:18 am
THE ORIGINAL IDEA WAS THIS:


Having a global forum with general chat on cables, amps, speakers and Symphonic Line.

Then the regional rooms were the US room would re direct to audiocircle.com's odyssey section, the Mexico section to my forum but the rooms for Denmark, Brasil or Taiwan woudl be real as the don't have already a forum so it would be a nice chance to envelope all sites but keep identities.

Yes I am afraid it can weaken the easiness for looking info, but anyway we can't post portuguse, spanish or chinese here, so...
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: brj on 24 May 2004, 08:28 am
Quote from: Eduardo AAVM
Yes I am afraid it can weaken the easiness for looking info, but anyway we can't post portuguse, spanish or chinese here, so...


So are there Portuguese, Spanish or Chinese equivalents of Audio Circle?  I have to add my opinion to that of KarlDL and Carlman... I've done a lot of reading about Odyssey (and a little listening) since I heard about them, but I probably never would have found them without AC as the reference.

Good luck!
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Barry on 24 May 2004, 01:01 pm
Thanks for all your input and I think I need to re-think before move forward.  I feel great that so many of you spend the time and give us feedback.  We are testing new business model and your feedback give us lots of encouragement.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: JoshK on 24 May 2004, 01:06 pm
Carl raises a very valid point.   I was going to say you guys probably shouldn't, but he said 'why' better than I could have.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Eduardo AAVM on 24 May 2004, 06:41 pm
ok We understand but few or not everubody reads english so altough audiocircle is "the forum" I think regional forums would boost Odyssey to a certain level...

Anyway thanks for your input it is very important.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Marbles on 24 May 2004, 06:51 pm
Nobody said all posts had to be in English.

In fact since this forum is open to the world, posts in all languages are OK.

The posts might get more responses if they are in English, but if someone posts in Spanish for example, that would be OK.

If a non Spanish speaking individual was interested, they could use a translating software, like babblefish to translate, than translate their response.

All are welcome here at AC  :wink:  In fact I think in most ways diversity will make us a better place.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: F-100 on 24 May 2004, 07:16 pm
I don't see any need for a new Odyssey forum. This is a fine one.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Captain Humble on 24 May 2004, 09:48 pm
I agree with the rest of the group.
IMHO another forum would be counter productive.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Anton on 24 May 2004, 10:29 pm
I agree with the rest. It is much better to keep this forum instead of a separate one. However, each Odyssey worldwide franchise or dealer can have a special place for their customers and can provide links to this forum as well.

Happy listening!
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Ferdi on 24 May 2004, 11:19 pm
Hi, I also prefer things in a single place. I think longer term, it will not be sustainable to run seperate forums actively.

I see the following downsides to a seperate site:
- lower credibility. I decided to buy a Stratos after reading a lot of posts on HD (and of course discussing with Klaus on the phone).
- No walkin customers. People coming the site already know what they are looking for.

Just my opinion of course.

Ferdi
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Eduardo AAVM on 25 May 2004, 04:26 am
Well ok I see, nobody said this forum would be exchanged for a new one or moved to a new location...

I currently own a small forum were my mexican customers post their experiences and it helps big to new customers who are just starting to know about odyssey and some of them also read audiocircle.com

Personally I see no problem wuth the project, but if that's the point of view and decision from the majority then it is ok for me and it is a closed discusion.

And thanks for opening this circle to other languajes posts.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: klaus@odyssey on 29 May 2004, 10:36 pm
Actually,  it is  a good idea and I think that we'll do it.  It's not as much a competition for AC,  but each language will have their own sub-forum,  and thus,  a very unique and much wider area as far as participants are concerned.  Don't think in terms of English- and US  based.

Klaus
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Eduardo AAVM on 31 May 2004, 12:38 am
Just in case take a look

http://odysseyaudio.3.forumer.com/

Klaus said maybe we'll  do it, so if that's the case here it is.

Yet to be finished.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Ferdi on 1 Jun 2004, 11:24 am
HI, don't let the comments get to you. If you think you'll get something out of running an Odyssey-specific forum, I hope it works for you.

As a happy Odyssey Stratos owner, I only want what is best for the Odyssey community.

Good luck!

Ferdi
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Barry on 1 Jun 2004, 12:36 pm
I set-up one specific to serve Hong Kong local customer who prefer Chinese or a mix of English/Chinese in the forum.  There should be no conflict to AudioCircle and it is for Hong Kong local customer communication.

http://www.odysseyaudiohk.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl

Thanks you for all your comments.
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: rosconey on 12 Jun 2004, 11:19 am
looks to be a waste of space-no one is registered or doing anything-
totaly dead over at odyssey world forum
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Eduardo AAVM on 12 Jun 2004, 04:54 pm
I don know why many of you have been so critical about it...

Fact is it will take time to grow, and it depends many on what outside the US is done. It is not taking something from somebody it is just joining all togheter.

In many ways it is a open door for many outside US who doesn't speak english and that's why odyssey's audiocircle site is the official US (and odyssey indeed) web forum.

Then all the foreign odyssey sites have to place a link to it... I do not know maybe it is a bad idea but it doesn't hurt nobody...

Yo can review my forum and yes there are some comments for electronics, speakers and many about groneberg even more that the ones that can be found in some US forums (for groneberg) because markets react different and having a chance to develop a linking between distributor - customer - potential customer is a good way to see Odyssey grow, but also you'll find that I post most of messages there.

So the only thing I know is for sure is that nothing is for sure so if it doesn't work at all and it is just a waste of time (you tell me, I did it) it will be deleted.

Just my point of view...


Regards...
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Marbles on 12 Jun 2004, 05:05 pm
Knowing all the work that went into it, I really hope it works out they way you envision it.

Best of luck
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Eduardo AAVM on 12 Jun 2004, 05:13 pm
Thanks Marbles, believe me, I hope it works good not for me but for Odyssey and all involved, from Klaus to the main and great customer base in US; to Singapore, Hong Kong, Brasil, Denmark, everywhere and everybody...
Title: Is www.odysseyaudioforum.com a good idea?
Post by: Barry on 12 Jun 2004, 05:28 pm
rosconey,

Thanks for your interest in my post and I'd like to clarify that it is NOT a "world forum".  It is simply a way to communicate with Hong Kong customers.    Just given customer one more alternative way of communication with HK showroom.

You don't have to worry about whether it is waste of space, it is free come with my hosting service (which is just around US$5 per month).  In fact, I'm using it somewhat like a place to post news regarding Hong Kong showroom and FAQ.  It is easier than update the site.  Hence, we did not enforce registration and the registration rate is low as expected.  Seems like people using it as news channel at this moment.

Another factor is that we just started the Hong Kong showroom for less than a month.  I only have Tempest, Dual Mono, Khartago and Epiphany.  Lorelei, Nightingale, Stratos Plus and the new digital has not arrive yet.  We did not promote it in full force at this point of time.  I hope I'll get the shipping notice from Klaus soon.

Your comment is noted and I hope this post clarify any mis-understanding.  We openly asked for feedback here.  We received clear messages from members here (thanks)  and NOBODY is trying to create any kind of "world forum".   Acutally, we referred customer enquiry to use AudioCircle.  

We respect comments of AudioCircle members and I would love to hear encouraging suggestions how we may do better as partner of Klaus overseas.