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Title: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: jtwrace on 3 Feb 2015, 03:47 pm
I thought I'd just put it out there that my NYG are going to do it this year/next.  I can feel it.   :oops:
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Post by: macrojack on 3 Feb 2015, 04:12 pm
Wow!!!  Jason - if you can feel that, you are a very sensitive guy.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 3 Feb 2015, 06:16 pm
Wow!!!  Jason - if you can feel that, you are a very sensitive guy.

...and will be a very rich after placing a very big bet in las vegas!  :lol:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 7 Aug 2015, 12:14 am
Who watches the pre-season?


I don't. Though mainly because it's not convenient as I live far away from my team.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 7 Aug 2015, 12:36 am
(http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-go-saints-20.png)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: steve f on 7 Aug 2015, 01:27 am
I'm a life-long Chicago Bears fan. It's going to be another loooong season.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 7 Aug 2015, 01:32 am
I'm a life-long Chicago Bears fan. It's going to be another loooong season.

You a Cubs fan, too?  You are living a hell on earth.    :rotflmao:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JimJ on 7 Aug 2015, 01:57 am
(http://www.myhalftimesports.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/New_England_Patriots.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 7 Aug 2015, 02:01 am
Wow, that Pat's logo looks overinflated.  :lol:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 7 Aug 2015, 02:12 am
Wow, that Pat's logo looks overinflated.  :lol:

 :lol:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 7 Aug 2015, 02:23 am
Easy there gents!
We all know that Chip Kelly will bring it home to Philly :thumb:


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=125943)


Fly Iggles Fly
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 7 Aug 2015, 02:30 am
Holy crap... Beer flew through my nose...  :lol: :duh:          Chip Kelly... That's funny... :lol:

I LOVE football season!
:beer:

Geuax Saints,

Jerry
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: steve f on 7 Aug 2015, 02:33 am
Thunderbrick, I hate the Cubs. I guess my life is okay.

steve
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 7 Aug 2015, 10:23 am
Easy there gents!
We all know that Chip Kelly will bring it home to Philly :thumb:


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=125943)


Fly Iggles Fly

You know I love my Eagles Chris, but unfortunately this year will be a train wreck.  9-7 and out of the playoffs.  Hopefully it will be a rebuilding year after tearing down the team and they start to gel as the season progresses.  But you don't start off with a virtually new team and win in the NFL.  Oh, and the Giants will suck worse.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 7 Aug 2015, 11:13 am
You know I love my Eagles Chris, but unfortunately this year will be a train wreck.  9-7 and out of the playoffs.  Hopefully it will be a rebuilding year after tearing down the team and they start to gel as the season progresses.  But you don't start off with a virtually new team and win in the NFL.  Oh, and the Giants will suck worse.

I think 9-7 is generous, 7-9 is probably more like it.  Just a little early season ribbing, and needed to post the coolest logo in football!  :thumb:
Heck Jerry lost his beer over it.  :lol:

Yo Jerry blow those suds out yet?  :green:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 7 Aug 2015, 05:38 pm
Wow, that Pat's logo looks overinflated.  :lol:

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JimJ on 7 Aug 2015, 07:09 pm
Just so no one can say otherwise... :D
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 7 Aug 2015, 08:02 pm
I'm from Bflo, except for Cubs fans no one knows suffering like we do ……………….
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 7 Aug 2015, 09:55 pm
Thunderbrick, I hate the Cubs. I guess my life is okay.

steve


Hate the Cubs? They've never done anything to anybody or any other baseball team, that is!  :roll:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Rob Babcock on 8 Aug 2015, 05:38 am
I keep hoping Minnesota will get a pro team someday, but til then I'll keep on being a Vikes fan! :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 9 Aug 2015, 02:29 am
Easy there gents!
We all know that Chip Kelly will bring it home to Philly :thumb:


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=125943)


Fly Iggles Fly


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=126026)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Big Red Machine on 9 Aug 2015, 11:12 am

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=34171)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 9 Aug 2015, 02:24 pm

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=126026)

Ouch!
So true!
My original post was tongue and cheek. Early season bravado smack with late season sorrow disgust.
That's life for an Iggle fan... :x   :shake:

Go Birds!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 9 Aug 2015, 06:43 pm
Early season smack?? I forgot about that part!  :green:

(http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/06/06739250dcd263aae44b3c53129d259de679e44c9676cb7d961eb842407274de.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 9 Aug 2015, 07:25 pm
 :rotflmao:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: roscoeiii on 9 Aug 2015, 08:01 pm
Thunderbrick, I hate the Cubs. I guess my life is okay.

steve

Go Bears and fuck the Cubs.  My man.

And yes,  expecting a long season for the Bears...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 9 Aug 2015, 08:16 pm
RIP Frank Gifford ……...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: ebag4 on 9 Aug 2015, 08:26 pm
Go Vikes!  Expecting great things from Teddy this season.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 9 Aug 2015, 08:27 pm
RIP Frank Gifford ……...

Just noticed this too:

http://my.xfinity.com/articles/sports-general/20150809/FBN-Gifford-Obit/
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 9 Aug 2015, 08:31 pm
Just noticed this too:

http://my.xfinity.com/articles/sports-general/20150809/FBN-Gifford-Obit/

I grew up with Frank Gifford calling games. He's one of the true Greats.

Rest in peace, Mr. Gifford. Thanks for the memories.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 10 Aug 2015, 12:34 am
They always said Kathy Lee divorced him when she found out there was no such thing as Tuesday Night Football.

Turn out the lights - the party's over...............
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Emil on 11 Aug 2015, 05:52 pm
J-E-T-S  JETS, JETS,JETS!

Jets starting QB, Geno Smith, out 6-10 weeks with a broken jaw after being sucker punched by a teammate.

Only in New York :lol:

Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 11 Aug 2015, 06:41 pm
Alright Eagles fans, did you sign the petition?  :lol:

http://espn.go.com/blog/philadelphia-eagles/post/_/id/12931/eagles-fans-want-pope-francis-to-bless-qb-sam-bradford
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 11 Aug 2015, 06:45 pm
J-E-T-S  JETS, JETS,JETS!

Jets starting QB, Geno Smith, out 6-10 weeks with a broken jaw after being sucker punched by a teammate.

Only in New York :lol:
"When you’re a Jet,
You’re the top cat in town,
You’re the gold-medal kid
With the heavyweight crown!"
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Emil on 11 Aug 2015, 07:05 pm
Alright Eagles fans, did you sign the petition?  :lol:

http://espn.go.com/blog/philadelphia-eagles/post/_/id/12931/eagles-fans-want-pope-francis-to-bless-qb-sam-bradford

Sure, but after he performs a miracle and heals Geno Smith's jaw first.



Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 11 Aug 2015, 07:30 pm
THAT punch cost that guy a lot of money!  Dumbass! :duh:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: soundbitten1 on 11 Aug 2015, 11:18 pm
Reportedly Smith owed him $600 and wouldn't pay up.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 11 Aug 2015, 11:47 pm
Reportedly Smith owed him $600 and wouldn't pay up.

That's stupid beyond belief.  A QB doesn't borrow money from an offensive lineman, a QB GIVES money to an OL!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 12 Aug 2015, 02:14 am
It was a linebacker that hit him.  IK Poulinliapolis or something.  Sixth round pick backup, immediately released.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 12 Aug 2015, 02:17 am
 :duh: :oops:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 12 Aug 2015, 02:23 am
This could be career ending.

There is not one professional quarterback with a 'glass jaw'. The chin is a pivot for the entire helmet.

Hopefully the surgeon is able to fix him up like it never even happened.  :o

Six hundred bucks...  :duh:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: FireGuy on 15 Aug 2015, 12:08 am
Getting closer to opening day.  Bills defense going to be killer this year.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=126263)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: sts9fan on 16 Aug 2015, 04:17 pm
#TB12RevengeTour
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 11 Sep 2015, 03:09 am
Let me be very clear: I hate the Patriots.

But, Rob Gronkowski is superhuman. He really is one of the true greats. Watch him play while you can.  :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Emil on 11 Sep 2015, 11:44 am

Just in case you Bills fans didnt know what Jet fans know.
Well, at least it's his wife's :icon_lol:

http://nypost.com/2015/09/10/rex-ryan-has-a-fetishy-foot-photo-on-his-bills-desk/




(https://thenypost.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/rex3.jpg?w=720&h=480&crop=1)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 11 Sep 2015, 01:06 pm
Let me be very clear: I hate the Patriots.

But, Rob Gronkowski is superhuman. He really is one of the true greats. Watch him play while you can.  :thumb:
Yep, us Cowboy fans have been spoiled by having Witten for a decade, but Gronk is in a class of his own. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: SteveFord on 13 Sep 2015, 03:27 pm
As of this moment the Giants are in First Place!
So is everybody else but that's beside the point.
Do I smell Super Bowl or is that coming from the dog?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 13 Sep 2015, 03:59 pm
Well, if I was a Giants fan, I'd bet on the dog.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: FireGuy on 13 Sep 2015, 04:11 pm
We'll see if the Bill's defense is as good as advertised.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=127990)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: roscoeiii on 13 Sep 2015, 04:41 pm
Excited for another season of this guy:
http://smokinjaycutler.tumblr.com
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: FireGuy on 20 Sep 2015, 03:30 pm

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=128328)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Speedskater on 22 Sep 2015, 01:18 pm
So now with some 32 games in the books, just how many good games were there?  I didn't see any.

By good games I mean that the offense and defense of both teams executed well. Just having a close final score doesn't make it a good game.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: cab on 22 Sep 2015, 08:45 pm
Packers Seahawks was pretty good, maybe even great if you are a Packer fan... :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JoshK on 22 Sep 2015, 08:55 pm
OK, so I just played in a suicide pool where you have to pick one team each week to win their game and you can't pick the same team twice so there is a bit of a strategy.  Winner takes all, $20 in and 88 people were playing.  At the end of week 2 only 12 remain.  What does that say about this year? 

For the first week I took 49'ers even though they were the underdogs as I couldn't possibly see Vikings winning away on the west coast and didn't think the 49'ers were as hollowed out as commentators said (even though I am not a fan).   2nd week I took New Orleans over Tampa Bay because they were favored by 10.5 point spread and frankly TB looked horrid the week before.   Well crap!   Really Saints?   I think many others did the same.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 22 Sep 2015, 09:37 pm
Getting closer to opening day.  Bills defense going to be killer this year.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=126263)

LOL ………….tell New England that !!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 22 Sep 2015, 09:40 pm
it's actually comical to see all these Eagles fans that thought they would go 14-2 ………….. but 'ya never know, perhaps they'll win 14 in a row ….. :scratch:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 22 Sep 2015, 10:47 pm
So now with some 32 games in the books, just how many good games were there?  I didn't see any.

By good games I mean that the offense and defense of both teams executed well. Just having a close final score doesn't make it a good game.


IDK, I've been watching some games and I thinking tackling fundamentals are pretty good. I seem to remember that there used to be a lot of shoving and bump tackling.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Speedskater on 22 Sep 2015, 11:13 pm
Gee, I saw a lot of receivers running the wrong route, defenders falling down and after the play penalties changing the game momentum.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: FireGuy on 22 Sep 2015, 11:59 pm
LOL ………….tell New England that !!

Pre-Season Optimism I suppose on the defensive side.  NE Vs. Buffalo... same old *&%*&$  story.  Pats seem to be living in the Bills' heads... rent free.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 23 Sep 2015, 12:16 am
...Well crap!   Really Saints? ...

Yes, it looks like it's going to be a tough year for us Saints fans.  :duh:

They let Jimmy Graham leave, but keep Rob Ryan. Really Saints? 

The defense is among the very worst in the league. I can easily see an 0-5 start.  :duh:

I'll still love 'em if they go 1-15, but I sure can't figure out what the hell they're thinking.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 23 Sep 2015, 01:00 am
Rob R seems to wear out his welcome pretty quick where ever he goes.  Garrett never wanted him, and as soon as J.Jones trusted him to really run the club, Garrett fired him.  I bet he's gone again after this season.  He might have been a great coordinator back in the days when a club kept its players for the better part of their careers, but systems need to be simpler today so that a 3rd year guy can master it.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 23 Sep 2015, 03:06 am
it's actually comical to see all these Eagles fans that thought they would go 14-2 ………….. but 'ya never know, perhaps they'll win 14 in a row ….. :scratch:

Not really, on this forum anyway.  Chris has them at 7-9 and I have them at 9-7, both of us saying out of the playoffs.  Although elsewhere you're correct.  There was so much 13-3 talk in the city of brotherly love that I almost started to doubt myself.  However there was a significant minority that didn't drink the koolaid, that could see that you can't tear apart a team and replace stars with backups and hope to win in the NFL, no matter what scheme you devise.  I wish and hope I'm wrong, but the Eagles may be way worse than what I thought.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 23 Sep 2015, 04:26 am
I seem to be one of the few that still thinks Bradford can be a good QB for Philly.  But I suspect that Chip moved too many pieces for that team to get any coordination in the first half of the season. And even if they do improve, they don't have the O line that they've had in the past. 
If they can't make teams pay for loading the box, it's going to be a very long season for them.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Rob Babcock on 23 Sep 2015, 05:40 am
I see Matt Cassel is ready to work his magic for the Cowboys! :lol: :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 23 Sep 2015, 02:41 pm
I see Matt Cassel is ready to work his magic for the Cowboys! :lol: :thumb:
Since he is backup to the backup, hopefully he never sees a snap. I see him and Weeden as two peas in a pod. At least he does have a history of having played well once upon a time.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Emil on 23 Sep 2015, 05:00 pm
(http://www.yardbarker.com/media/9/9/9928665fc70dc8ce13c2d49570aae7aaa5048c6f/lp_crop/8800763.jpg)

Wonder if Geno paid the $600 back yet? :lol:

With the Ryan Fitzpatick led Jets being 2-0 and looking quite impressive, he may be on that bench for the rest of the season

Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 23 Sep 2015, 10:18 pm
I'm sure most Eagles fans saw this Classic rant , but if not , it's a must see.

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/09/watch_embarassed_eagles_fan_rips_chip_kelly_after.html
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 24 Sep 2015, 12:00 am
I'm sure most Eagles fans

a very strange group ………..
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Speedskater on 25 Sep 2015, 11:36 am
And yet another not very good football game Thursday evening (Sept 24). What happened to Washington?
Did anyone bother to watch the complete game?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 25 Sep 2015, 08:55 pm
And yet another not very good football game Thursday evening (Sept 24). What happened to Washington?
Did anyone bother to watch the complete game?


Skins stink. There's some talent there but it's the little mistakes that add up. It's a losing "mentality" as the mistakes pile up (as happens to all teams in a game), it's "here we go again."
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 25 Sep 2015, 11:07 pm

Skins stink. There's some talent there but it's the little mistakes that add up. It's a losing "mentality" as the mistakes pile up (as happens to all teams in a game), it's "here we go again."

I thought they were better than they played last night.  I picked the Giants by a virtual coin flip, didn't expect them to dominate.  I watched very little of the game, way too boring to hold my interest, although I watched the end of the game which was pretty entertaining, three touchdowns in 32 seconds or something like that.  The NFC East may be the NFC South of a year ago, 8-8 or 7-9 may take it.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Speedskater on 25 Sep 2015, 11:07 pm
Last season, which night was it Sunday, Monday or Thursday that had mostly dud games?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 27 Sep 2015, 09:04 pm
Wow, quarterbacks are dropping like flies.  :o
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 28 Sep 2015, 06:43 pm
My favorite team,Washington will probably continue to be not very good but at least my second favorite the Cards are looking really good!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 28 Sep 2015, 06:55 pm
... at least my second favorite the Cards are looking really good!

I moved to Phoenix the same year the Cardinals moved from St. Louis and this is by far the most impressive the team has ever looked. All I wanted for Christmas was an offense that could score touchdowns to go along with an already great defense and so far Christmas has come early.

It's a long season so I try not to get too excited, especially after last years injury bug so I'll just leave it at that and say after week 3 I'm enjoying this NFL season.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: TomS on 28 Sep 2015, 07:14 pm
I moved to Phoenix the same year the Cardinals moved from St. Louis and this is by far the most impressive the team has ever looked. All I wanted for Christmas was an offense that could score touchdowns to go along with an already great defense and so far Christmas has come early.

It's a long season so I try not to get too excited, especially after last years injury bug so I'll just leave it at that and say after week 3 I'm enjoying this NFL season.
The Cards have looked really impressive, so hopefully injuries don't bite them again this year. I'm a big Bruce Arians fan, not so much the Cardinals, but he deserves a good run with his best players on the field all year. Best of luck to them.

My Colts have devolved from being just a mediocre team with a very good quarterback last year, to something far worse. It is very ugly to watch them now, and I hope Andrew Luck can endure the punishment he's taking while they get it sorted out. It may take years, as bad as the offensive line is right now with nothing in the pipeline.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: roscoeiii on 28 Sep 2015, 09:31 pm
I moved to Phoenix the same year the Cardinals moved from St. Louis and this is by far the most impressive the team has ever looked. All I wanted for Christmas was an offense that could score touchdowns to go along with an already great defense and so far Christmas has come early.

It's a long season so I try not to get too excited, especially after last years injury bug so I'll just leave it at that and say after week 3 I'm enjoying this NFL season.

As someone with Larry Fitzgerald on my fantasy team, I am enjoying Phoenix's success.

Beats watching my Bears.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 29 Sep 2015, 01:11 am
As someone with Larry Fitzgerald on my fantasy team, I am enjoying Phoenix's success.

Beats watching my Bears.
... and in the continuing saga of the Bears, they just paid Jared Allen $11.5M for three games before they traded him for a couple of beans and 6th round draft choice.  Perhaps their plan is to draft the next Tom Brady with it.   
Tough times for Bears fans.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Speedskater on 29 Sep 2015, 02:10 pm
Tell me again, why would ESPN chose to have a 'Monday Night Game' in Green Bay?  The odds of it being a good game are slim to none.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 29 Sep 2015, 03:54 pm
Tell me again, why would ESPN chose to have a 'Monday Night Game' in Green Bay?  The odds of it being a good game are slim to none.
This may not answer your question but I have always assumed that networks bid for the opportunity to broadcast a format package, be it MNF or ThNF, NFC or AFC. The league makes the schedules and sells the rights to the highest bidder. Thus, ESPN  did not choose that particular game. Right?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 16 Oct 2015, 03:39 am
And the Dirty Birds are no longer undefeated.
A huge Divisional win and morale booster for the Saints. (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=88208)

Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 25 Oct 2015, 08:40 pm
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=88206)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 25 Oct 2015, 09:11 pm
Bills loose again…………proving once again, Rex is a fraud ………..
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: SteveFord on 26 Oct 2015, 01:23 am
The Giants squeaked past the Cowgirl's 3rd string quarterback. 
I don't know about New York - they make so many tremendous plays and then they just kind of go to sleep for 10 minutes at a time and just never seem to put a game away.  A win is a win, though.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 26 Oct 2015, 04:45 pm
The Giants squeaked past the Cowgirl's 3rd string quarterback. 
I don't know about New York - they make so many tremendous plays and then they just kind of go to sleep for 10 minutes at a time and just never seem to put a game away.  A win is a win, though.

unless something changes in the second half of the season the NL East is basically toast ……...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: finsup on 8 Nov 2015, 09:50 pm
The  cynic in me thinks the refs really tried to give Green Bay the game against the Panthers.  Some unbelievable calls in the final minutes
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: bladesmith on 8 Nov 2015, 11:13 pm
Bronco's vs Colt's.   :D

Good game so far.... :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: richidoo on 9 Nov 2015, 02:00 am
Both my Pats and Panthers are still on top!  :thumb:

I hope they get to play each other this year. ;)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: finsup on 9 Nov 2015, 09:54 pm
Bronco's vs Colt's.   :D

Good game so far.... :thumb:

All year long, I have watched the Broncos games on the NFL Network, thinking that if I watched them live, I would jinx them.  It worked well, until yesterday.  I watched the Panther game at a bar, then went home to watch NFL Sunday Ticket.  Fired up the TV...and there was the Bronco game live on the local CBS station.  :o  It was on the game for only a second, I swear.  Guess it was enough... :duh:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Emil on 9 Nov 2015, 10:28 pm
Rex Ryan plans to make IK Enemkpali, Geno Smith puncher, captain vs. Jets

Oh boy. Must see TV thursday night :thumb:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/rex-ryan-plans-to-make-ik-enemkpali--geno-smith-puncher--captain-vs--jets-203034784.html
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: finsup on 10 Nov 2015, 01:06 am
Even though The Panthers are 8-0,  Talk Radio in Charlotte today was all about Cam Newton pulling down the Packer fan's banner.  I don't care if the Packer fan legally, or illegally, hung the banner, I fully support Cam in what he did.  I was a little surprised at the number of callers who criticized him for doing so.

Look, it IS up to the Home team's fan base to show up for home games.  That said, there are certain teams whose fans travel well: Packers, Raiders, and Steelers just to name three.  Even more so, it may not even be that the fans are traveling well, but rather, many fans have simply moved and brought their old allegiances with them. 

I have been fortunate to live in different areas of the country including Denver, Portland, metro DC, metro San Diego, and now metro Charlotte.  San Diego, and to a lesser degree, Charlotte have really tough times with crowd noise coming from the fans for the opposing team sometimes.  Fans moved to SD and Charlotte to escape high taxes, harsh weather, etc.  When I moved to the Charlotte area, I was stunned to see how many Steelers bars there were in the area. 

Personally, either root for your new adopted hometown.  Or move back home. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 10 Nov 2015, 01:58 am

When I moved to the Charlotte area, I was stunned to see how many Steelers bars there were in the area. 



For a long time when there was no Panther team, many people in NC (also WV) adopted the Steelers.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 10 Nov 2015, 03:07 am
Personally, either root for your new adopted hometown.  Or move back home.

I understand what you're saying with that, and to a point I agree, but I think there's another option if you're lucky.  If the teams are typically not direct competitors, you can be loyal to both.  My Steelers and Eagles are in different conferences and play each other rarely.  When they do play every four years, I just root for good plays on either side and no injuries.  When I was a kid I rooted for the AFL Chargers and the NFL Rams, they never played each other.  But something like Dallas or Philly and you're gonna have to pick a side. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 10 Nov 2015, 03:11 am
How about Wes Welker signing with the Rams?!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 11 Nov 2015, 04:15 am
How about Wes Welker signing with the Rams?!

Latest news from St. Louis:

(AP) BREAKING: Wes Welker placed on IR with a concussion just hours after Rams signed him, after bumping his head climbing into the Team van.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 11 Nov 2015, 04:34 am
I won't believe that until Guy13 says it's so!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: SteveFord on 16 Nov 2015, 01:07 am
Crap, the Patriots squeaked past the Giants.
Oh well, at least it was an exciting game.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 16 Nov 2015, 01:26 am
Crap, the Patriots squeaked past the Giants.
Oh well, at least it was an exciting game.

I guess you could say the Pats own the Giants in the regular season....but we know what happens in the super bowl.  :D

I still don't know what a TD catch is anymore....
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 16 Nov 2015, 01:40 am
The NFC East is a mess!
Only one win this week  :roll:
I think a sub .500 will make the playoffs this year!  :o
Pathetic!

Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 16 Nov 2015, 06:05 pm
The Denver Broncos have announced that Peyton Manning has a tear in his plantar fascia in addition to rib injury. Before any of the injuries erupted he was rather bad. Yesterday he demonstrated that he is not an NFL caliber QB any longer. Can the Broncos win any games behind Brock Osweiler? Next Sunday is at Chicago. Week after that they host NE. They also have to visit Pittsburgh and host Cincinnati. Interspersed in that are 3 division games, 1 is Oakland in Denver and the other 2 are against SD. They are 7-2 right now. Will they finish above .500? I guess next week on the road against Chicago will tell the whole story of what to expect.

Manning has probably played his last NFL game.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 23 Nov 2015, 12:50 am
The NFC East is a mess!
Only one win this week  :roll:
I think a sub .500 will make the playoffs this year!  :o
Pathetic!

speaking of pathetic …………..how 'bout dem Eagles !!!!!! Chip Kelly is looking more and more like a fraud every day !!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 23 Nov 2015, 01:49 am
speaking of pathetic …………..how 'bout dem Eagles !!!!!! Chip Kelly is looking more and more like a fraud every day !!
And Andy Reid is looking more and more like the real deal.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 23 Nov 2015, 01:55 pm
And Andy Reid is looking more and more like the real deal.
speaking of pathetic …………..how 'bout dem Eagles !!!!!! Chip Kelly is looking more and more like a fraud every day !!

With Andy we Iggle fans had hope...there is no hope with Chip!   

Philadelphia needs a whole new everything! Dump Chip and Jeffery (you flake :evil:) sell the team to an owner who wants to win!   :banghead:

Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 23 Nov 2015, 02:16 pm
There was joy in Dallas when Philly fired Andy and hired the "genius" as his replacement.  Chip has another year to right the ship, but it's not going to happen. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 23 Nov 2015, 02:17 pm
With Andy we Iggle fans had hope...there is no hope with Chip!   

Philadelphia needs a whole new everything! Dump Chip and Jeffery (you flake :evil:) sell the team to an owner who wants to win!   :banghead:
I don't want to dump on your dream or anything but, If you look at the new owners in Cleveland and Washington as examples, new owners aren't always the answer.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 23 Nov 2015, 02:42 pm
I don't want to dump on your dream or anything but, If you look at the new owners in Cleveland and Washington as examples, new owners aren't always the answer.

True, but Jeffery Lurie is a whack job!
His ex-wife ran the team until they split up.
Even the dreaded Jerry Jones was able to hire very good people to obtain championships, until his ego got the best of the Cowboys. 
The Eagles organization needs a complete flushing from the top on down the line.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 23 Nov 2015, 02:51 pm
 
The Eagles organization needs a complete flushing from the top on down the line.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but 'ALL' of the Philly sport teams basically ………….SUCK !!

can you name me a city in this country with four pro teams (Baseball, Hockey, Football, Basketball), post 1967 (first expansion of Hockey), with less Championships than Philly (5) …………… I can't ……….
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 23 Nov 2015, 03:01 pm
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but 'ALL' of the Philly sport teams basically ………….SUCK !!

For now yes, but we are a hopeful group of hapless fans.  :green:

Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rollo on 23 Nov 2015, 03:03 pm
  Nope I think the NY Jets take the cake for horrible. As a Jet fan it just sucks.

charles
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 23 Nov 2015, 03:12 pm
For now yes, but we are a hopeful group of hapless fans.  :green:

rodge, I think the operative word ….'hopeless' !

BTW, I live 37 miles west of Philly, I know your pain but mine is greater   ………… I was born and raised in Buffalo. You know what they say about Bflo and Cleveland ……………'two mistakes on a lake' !

Regardless ………….Go Bills !!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 23 Nov 2015, 03:13 pm
  Nope I think the NY Jets take the cake for horrible. As a Jet fan it just sucks.

charles

Chin-up Charles, The Jets do have a Super Bowl win...Eagles twice to the big show and 0 wins!  :banghead:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 24 Nov 2015, 07:49 pm
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but 'ALL' of the Philly sport teams basically ………….SUCK !!

can you name me a city in this country with four pro teams (Baseball, Hockey, Football, Basketball), post 1967 (first expansion of Hockey), with less Championships than Philly (5) …………… I can't ……….


Then there's Cleveland. Though no hockey team, I don't think they've had a single championship team since '67.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: mmurt on 24 Nov 2015, 08:58 pm
Try being a San Diego fan...  Clippers sucked then left town.  Padres, 2 World Series, 1-8 record.  Chargers, 1 Super Bowl, Huge Blow-out!  Chargers go 13-3, fire their coach and replace him with NORV TURNER!!!  They put us through that now want to leave town!  At least we have nice weather and plenty of other things to do in Janurary.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: bladesmith on 27 Nov 2015, 12:53 am
Is Carolina really that good or is Dallas that bad ?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: SteveFord on 27 Nov 2015, 12:57 am
Maybe a little of both?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 27 Nov 2015, 02:56 am
Call the Elias Sports Bureau. How long has it been since Detroit scoured 45 points? The Iggles must really suck.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 27 Nov 2015, 03:08 am
Is Carolina really that good or is Dallas that bad ?

Tony Romo is out again, so Dallas is bad again.  Romo had a poor performance before he was hurt, both situations add up to maybe he came back too soon.  Dallas is a bad team with a few good players that can make them look better than they are sometimes, Romo being one of those players.  If his season is over, so is the team's.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JLM on 27 Nov 2015, 12:37 pm
Yeah, Romo came back too soon.  It was a poor gamble as Dallas barely had a chance to even make the playoffs.  The whole Dallas organization is full of poor decision makers, to the point that I feel bad for Tony (if it's possible for a multi-million dollar football player that sees one hour of action - ball in play while on the field - per season).  Nice stadium, but don't know if it pays for itself without a good Cowboy team.  That division has always had a spotlight on it, with teams that all can, from week to week, look good or really bad. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 27 Nov 2015, 03:39 pm
Nah, he didn't come back too soon.  They had nothing to lose by bringing him back.  So now he stays in a sling for as long as it takes and comes back next year.  If they didn't get him on the field their season was done anyway. 
Is Carolina as good as they looked?  No doubt their linebackers are really that good.  The rest of the team doesn't exactly remind me of the 85 Bears or the 93 Cowboys.  But they are definitely for a very solid team, and there aren't many of those out there. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: jimdgoulding on 27 Nov 2015, 03:43 pm
If only Jerry Jones would disappear somehow I could again be a fan.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 27 Nov 2015, 03:45 pm
Jerry Jones is the new Al Davis.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 27 Nov 2015, 03:52 pm
It's shocking how fast he went from NFL Executive of the Year in 2014 to buffoon in 2015 Wink2.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 27 Nov 2015, 03:59 pm
Yes, Al Davis received the same accolade in 2002.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: finsup on 27 Nov 2015, 07:44 pm
Is Carolina really that good or is Dallas that bad ?

Carolina is often dismissed and it may take a SB win for them to finally get the respect they deserve this year.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: sts9fan on 27 Nov 2015, 07:47 pm
Buffoon that build the most valuable sports franchise in the world.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: finsup on 27 Nov 2015, 09:48 pm
Agree with you, sts9fan.  That said, the Cowboys just got there a$$ handed to them and we're still talking about them.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 27 Nov 2015, 10:11 pm
The Iggles must really suck.

ya think ???? ................90 pts given up in 5 days .............never in the history of the franchise has that happened.

Phila (sports wise) just plain SUCKS !!!! none of their professional (Quasi that is) sports teams has won a game in the month of November !  Pathetic doesn't even do that town justice !
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 27 Nov 2015, 10:12 pm
Buffoon that build the most valuable sports franchise in the world.

more than the Yankees ?? no way ..............
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 27 Nov 2015, 10:12 pm
Heard the Eagles are just going to forfeit the rest of the season....
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: finsup on 27 Nov 2015, 10:33 pm
more than the Yankees ?? no way ..............


For 2015, Forbes (http://www.forbes.com/sites/forbespr/2015/07/15/forbes-announces-the-worlds-most-valuable-sports-teams/) has them in a 2-way tie............................behind Real Madrid.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 28 Nov 2015, 02:59 am
Heard the Eagles are just going to forfeit the rest of the season....

Probably an effort to keep the scoring closer......
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 28 Nov 2015, 05:07 am
Ya know, you can all really just stick it where the sun don't shine.  Yes, the Eagles are a crappy football team.  There have been and are plenty of teams that are worse, like the Cowgirls, Chargers, Browns, Titans.  Nobody wants Chip Kelly gone more than Eagle fans, but everyone was hot to get him for their team when he came into the league.  And that the team is much worse than it was now that the second string QB is starting, big surprise there.  All that and they're only a game an a half back in the pitiful NFC East.  Not likely based on their recent play, but they could win the division.  So the childish piling on is unwarranted.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: notany on 28 Nov 2015, 05:47 am
Cheer up.  Last year the Bears gave up back to back 50 games, with a bye in-between.  Now look at us, 5-6.  Well, at least we aren't a joke.  Anymore.  So far.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 28 Nov 2015, 02:25 pm
The general consensus is that Lurie will take away the GM job from Chip at the end of the year.  He may or may not walk at that point, if he does go, so much the better, see ya.  His talent management has been the worst I've seen in 50 years of watching pro football.  Letting pro bowl guard Evin Mathis go for nothing, letting Desean Jackson go for nothing, mishandling Jeremy Macklin's contract negotiating, trading Shady McCoy for Kiko Alonso who is damaged goods, passing up Derek Carr in the draft to trade for Sam Bradford, paying Byron Maxwell big money as a shut down corner who can't cover or tackle, the horrible, horrible drafts, the list just goes on and on.  We'll leave out the unimaginative on the field coaching for this discussion.  Apparently no one told Chip that NFL stands for Not For Long if you keep making those kinds of blunders.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 28 Nov 2015, 04:40 pm
Don't be hasty now. Chip has a plan. He just needs 6-7 more years for it to gel.

Sincerely,
Tom Coughlin
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 28 Nov 2015, 04:45 pm
Ha ha,I think that plan will be better executed at USC or LSU.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 28 Nov 2015, 05:14 pm
Ha ha,I think that plan will be better executed at USC or LSU.
Good one.  I've been an Eagles fan since I was a kid.  It's just difficult to have hope these days.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 28 Nov 2015, 05:35 pm
Don't be hasty now. Chip has a plan. He just needs 6-7 more years for it to gel.

Sincerely,
Tom Coughlin

 :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 28 Nov 2015, 07:11 pm
Well, I actually think that head coach Chip has actually done a decent job with the talent that GM Chip (a source of hilarity around the league) has handed him.  One good but old injury prone OT, one pretty decent center, one young decent OT, scrubs for guards, one very expensive highly worn injury prone RB, a couple of other pretty good RBs, talented but inexperienced WR, decent TE, and the leader of the group is a QB that has never come close to performing like a #1 pick- and is injury prone.  Mediocre DB's, good but injury prone LB, good D line.  Excellent special teams. 
If there was anyone on that team I'd poach it'd be the special teams coach. 
Those thinking the this was the year for the Eagle to fly were drinking too much green Kool Aid. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: AmpDesigner333 on 28 Nov 2015, 07:51 pm
Well, I actually think that head coach Chip has actually done a decent job with the talent that GM Chip (a source of hilarity around the league) has handed him.  One good but old injury prone OT, one pretty decent center, one young decent OT, scrubs for guards, one very expensive highly worn injury prone RB, a couple of other pretty good RBs, talented but inexperienced WR, decent TE, and the leader of the group is a QB that has never come close to performing like a #1 pick- and is injury prone.  Mediocre DB's, good but injury prone LB, good D line.  Excellent special teams. 
If there was anyone on that team I'd poach it'd be the special teams coach. 
Those thinking the this was the year for the Eagle to fly were drinking too much green Kool Aid.
Yes, there's no staying power in the NFL anymore.  With so many "new guys", how do you develop a team these days?  Same thing in some other sports, too, like hockey.  Flyers are not doing so well this year either.  Oh well.  :(
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 28 Nov 2015, 09:54 pm
My 'piling on' with regard to the Eagles is mostly aimed at a large component of their fan base that is really quite clueless. FWIW, I was born and raised in Buffalo, NY, so my Super Bowl loss pain is far greater than theirs. But I constantly get ridiculed by Eagle fans, as if they ever 'won' anything. As I said in an earlier post, it's losing sport City (Flyers won last night, first win for a pro team this month !) hopefully someday they will rise from the ashes !

BTW, I've attended Eagles games in Franklin Field, so while I might not be as old as some, I'm certainly older than the majority of Eagles fans.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 29 Nov 2015, 04:32 am
None of that fanbase is reading your posts, there's only two of us here and neither one of us drank the koolaid.  I predicted 9-7, rodge predicted 7-9, both of us saying out of the playoffs.  Be mindful of your audience when you post.

I don't know who the Eagle fans you encounter are, but they're not indicative of Eagle fans throughout the Delaware valley.  No one here has any illusions of success and we really don't need someone from some other city talking trash about us, making a bunch of unfounded statements that serve no useful purpose.  It's an open forum and you can say what you want to within site guidelines, but you can't say these things unchallenged.  My previous statement stands.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 29 Nov 2015, 06:11 am
Yep.  Not fun being on the butt end of a bunch of trash talk.  Over the years, I've seen trash talk here about Cowboys, Giants, Bears, and probably a couple of other that I can't remember.  Several "pro" writers hyped the Eagles early as being an upper tier team, some hyped Dallas, so there was lots of colors of Kool Aid available.  So much of any particular teams success comes down to key injuries... except Belicheat.  He is in a class of his own, even if he has sold his soul to get there. 
Hey, and as bad as the Eagles are, and they are very bad, they still have more wins than my Cowboys- and early on I thought we had a real chance to be dominant in the second half of the season.  Oh well...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 29 Nov 2015, 12:45 pm
I don't get the Bellicheat comments that continually resurface.
The New England Patriots are simply the best team in all of NFL history. Since 2000, they have won the Super Bowl 4 times in 6 appearances. And there is no evidence of cheating. Many theories exist about conspiracies and innuendo has superseded our customarily required evidentiary procedures in the press and the rumor mill. Nothing concrete has ever been presented however.
Supposedly Brady had an advantage in the first half of last year's ALCS game against the Indy Colts. Pagano whined and the media took it up. Roger Goodall made a Federal Case of the matter and has emerged with an omelette on his face - still he continues to waste money and other resources on his witch hunt. Why is so little consideration given to the fact that Brady came out in the second half after the officials had corrected the deflation advantage he supposedly enjoyed for the first 30 minutes and skewered the helpless Colts for 4 TDs? Does that make any sense to any of the accusers?
The videotaping scandal that occurred years ago was started by disgruntled former Pats coach, Eric Mangini, who proved subsequently to be quite embarrassingly unsuccessful once he left the Pats' family. It was later conceded that the filming was a common practice among NFL teams. For reasons never acknowledged, the Pats were singled out.
My personal opinion is that the Kraft team does not "play ball" with the NFL's ruling body and has been singled out for comeuppance. This has come in the form of bad publicity, loss of draft picks and huge fines, none of which have prevented the best team in football from continuing to dominate.
Tonight they will visit my Broncos in Mile High. By rights, they should get killed because of Denver's defensive prowess and the elation the team and fans feel over having moved beyond the handicap of watching Peyton Manning deliver advantages to the opponent on nearly every possession. NE's offense is minus their best running back and all but Brandon LaFell, Gronk, and a walk on receiver. In other words, a severely crippled offense. Still, I am wary of sly master on the other sideline, who has found a way to win more often than anyone else. And they appear to be Super Bowl bound again.
Read this and know the facts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Belichick

The 2007 Spygate confession speech was negotiated to avoid suspension. Instead Bill apologized and paid a half million dollar fine.

Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 29 Nov 2015, 03:00 pm
Damn.  For a group of guys that have sure dished it out in the past, everyone has gotten awfully thin skinned lately!
Let express myself perhaps in a different way.  Belichick pushes the limits of legality repeatedly.  He walks a thin line between searching an edge against his opponents and being in violation of ethical boundaries.  Having said that, he is absolutely the best coach currently working in pro football.  And I bet 31 teams would fire their coach in a heartbeat if they could hire him. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 29 Nov 2015, 03:28 pm
Damn.  For a group of guys that have sure dished it out in the past, everyone has gotten awfully thin skinned lately!
Let express myself perhaps in a different way.  Belichick pushes the limits of legality repeatedly.  He walks a thin line between searching an edge against his opponents and being in violation of ethical boundaries.  Having said that, he is absolutely the best coach currently working in pro football.  And I bet 31 teams would fire their coach in a heartbeat if they could hire him.
I can't substantiate any of the following observation but I'll go out on a limb and state that every multi-billion corporation pushes the limits of legality and morality every day in every way. NFL teams are no different. When the stakes are so high, self-restraint goes out the window. I'm not suggesting that this excuses any behavior but it certainly serves to motivate the participants toward success at any cost.

What's the line on tonight's game?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: finsup on 29 Nov 2015, 03:45 pm
Believe the Pats are 3-point favorites.  The Broncos' D will need to have their best game of the season tonight, I think, if Denver is to have a chance to win.

Belichick is the best coach in the NFL today.  Success doesn't mean people have to like, or even admire him. Character use to count for something.  Not anymore today, it seems, at least in professional sports. All that matters is the win.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 29 Nov 2015, 04:18 pm
I don't think Belichick is the best coach, the record shows Tom Brady is the best quarterback.  Belichick has a record significantly under .500 without Brady under center.  A high tide raise all boats.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 29 Nov 2015, 04:31 pm
I don't think Belichick is the best coach, the record shows Tom Brady is the best quarterback.  Belichick has a record significantly under .500 without Brady under center.  A high tide raise all boats.
Plus Belichick was the head coach of the Jets twice and never registered a win either time.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 29 Nov 2015, 06:23 pm
None of that fanbase is reading your posts, there's only two of us here and neither one of us drank the koolaid.  I predicted 9-7, rodge predicted 7-9, both of us saying out of the playoffs.  Be mindful of your audience when you post.

my observation / experience in general, not specific to anyone on this forum.

Quote
I don't know who the Eagle fans you encounter are, but they're not indicative of Eagle fans throughout the Delaware valley.  No one here has any illusions of success and we really don't need someone from some other city talking trash about us, making a bunch of unfounded statement

I'm willing to bet if you took a poll, Eagles fans (again 'in general') are the least respected in the NFL (boo'ed Santa, Judge, jury and jail set up in the old Vet, etc). FWIW, I was at the game that preceded all that (Giants, '86) and it was the most embarrassing football game I ever attended and yes Giants fans were part of the problem as well. Outside of Philly (where I've lived since the late sixties) I've been to 6 other stadiums and while ALL have their fair share of drunken morons I was never more embarrassed than the times when my boys were little and I took them to Eagles games in Phila. FWIW, back at the 'Ralph' in Bflo they have a 'family section', no alcohol and no admittance if you appear intoxicated and yes there are plenty of buffoons in Bflo too !
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 29 Nov 2015, 10:45 pm
Bills lose ………..again, counting the games till 'sexy Rexy' is gone…...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: SteveFord on 30 Nov 2015, 01:26 am
The Giants, what is the matter with them? 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: finsup on 30 Nov 2015, 01:06 pm
Holy Comeback, Batman!  Broncs win.  Yes!!! :D

Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: finsup on 30 Nov 2015, 01:10 pm
I don't think Belichick is the best coach, the record shows Tom Brady is the best quarterback.  Belichick has a record significantly under .500 without Brady under center.  A high tide raise all boats.
In the Brady era, Bill is the best coach.  He has shown time and again that he is far craftier than the opposing team's coach.  IMHO, a coach can hinder a great quarterback, ie. Reeves/Elway.

BTW, I do not like Belichick.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: bladesmith on 2 Dec 2015, 03:07 pm
Heard the Eagles are just going to forfeit the rest of the season....

The Eagles are getting a new"officiating crew" next weekend against the Patriots. I wonder how the calls will be made against/for the Pat's/Eagles.

Should be interesting..
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 3 Dec 2015, 08:12 pm
Yeah, Pete Morelli's crew got demoted to the Pat's game after messing up real bad on that too many men on the field call last week and "looking generally clueless for 10 minutes".  Belichick said he didn't care.

http://www.csnne.com/new-england-patriots/belichick-reacts-pats-getting-demoted-officiating-crew
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: bladesmith on 7 Dec 2015, 12:02 am
Chiefs vs Raiders, crazy game......
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 7 Dec 2015, 01:03 am
Broncos did not exactly trounce the lowly Chargers today but they won, and in so doing, they moved ahead of the Patriots. Still ahead for them are Oakland, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and San Diego again. If the Bronkies win 2 of those remaining games, they clinch their division. If they win out, they take over top seed in the AFC.

And you Philly guys will have to stop whining for a week. The Eagles flew high today. Meanwhile, the Giants lost as will either Washington or Dallas this week. You are back in the running.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 7 Dec 2015, 01:31 pm
As a fan of two teams it doesn't always work out, but this week it did.  My Steelers crushed the Colts, winning every facet of the game.  My Eagles should have crushed the Patriots scoring 35 unanswered points, but as they are the Eagles, they had to nearly give the game away at the end.  Letting the Pats March down and score, give up an onsides kick leading to a score, then fumbling the ball for a possible game tying score that didn't come to fruition because Lafell couldn't catch a pass.  Eagle fans can't even feel good about a win over the Patriots, they had too many lucky breaks to feel like they earned it.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 7 Dec 2015, 04:51 pm
  Eagle fans can't even feel good about a win over the Patriots

They can 'feel' better than Bills fans …….. a win is a win in my book.

Lets see what happens this coming weekend @ The Link ……… Bills vs. Eagles. Bills pretty much need to win out to have a shot at post season.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 7 Dec 2015, 05:51 pm
Big game tonight! Can't believe after last week's win that the Skins are still in the hunt.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: londonbarn on 7 Dec 2015, 09:35 pm
Jimmy Graham is out and IMMEDIATELY my Hawks play like the last 2 years... strange but awesome...!!! Something about Graham just didnt gel with the seattle philo...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Speedskater on 8 Dec 2015, 05:41 pm
In Monday evening's game, they played the entire game in the last few minutes.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: dwk on 8 Dec 2015, 06:49 pm
yeah, the prime-time games have had crazy finishes lately. First the blocked FG run back for the winning TD, then the hail-mary on a 00:00 play due to a potentially phantom defensive penalty, and now 3 scoring drives inside the 2 minute warning.  Maybe not great games, but great finishes.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 8 Dec 2015, 07:04 pm
In Monday evening's game, they played the entire game in the last few minutes.


Yeah, it was a snooze-fest until the last few minutes.


The insane thing is that if the playoffs started next week, the Skins would still be in at 5-7!  :roll:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 8 Dec 2015, 07:25 pm
I thought I'd just put it out there that my NYG are going to do it this year/next.  I can feel it.   :oops:

Uh, that's not a Giant you are feeling......
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: ArthurDent on 9 Dec 2015, 12:35 am
Jimmy Graham is out and IMMEDIATELY my Hawks play like the last 2 years... strange but awesome...!!! Something about Graham just didnt gel with the seattle philo...

I'm no expert, but given the Hawks were leading in the 4th quarter of every one of their 5 losses, and Graham is on the offensive side of the line, I don't think a lot of blame can be placed on him for our situation. Was it an easy fit when he arrived, no. Were things getting better prior to his injury, yes. Will it work out in the end, who knows.  :dunno: Is it another Percy Harvin situation behind the scenes, time will tell. He dang well better work out considering what we gave up to get him, Max Unger in particular.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rajacat on 9 Dec 2015, 12:47 am
The Hawks won't miss Graham that much.Luke Wilson will do fine as the starting tight end. He's fast and he runs well after a catch.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: finsup on 10 Dec 2015, 12:05 am
I lived in San Diego for a few years and saw the Broncos play there twice.  They did not win.  So, even though the Chargers are not playing well, I never know which Denver team is going to show up when the Broncos play there.

The important thing they are still winning, despite the injuries.  True, a lot of teams can say they are missing key personnel, but for a team that has needed its defense to pull them through the early part of the season, the injuries to the Bronc's D is pretty deep:  LB DeMarcus Ware and Danny Trevathan, S T.J. Ward.  And just when the ground game seemed to get going, down goes C.J Anderson who finally seemed to be coming on, and TE Vernon Davis is still out.  And yes, at QB, Peyton Manning. 

Broncos did not exactly trounce the lowly Chargers today but they won, and in so doing, they moved ahead of the Patriots. Still ahead for them are Oakland, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati and San Diego again. If the Bronkies win 2 of those remaining games, they clinch their division. If they win out, they take over top seed in the AFC.

And you Philly guys will have to stop whining for a week. The Eagles flew high today. Meanwhile, the Giants lost as will either Washington or Dallas this week. You are back in the running.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 11 Dec 2015, 11:54 pm
From SI.com today:

The New York Giants have released defensive end Damontre Moore for violating team rules, the team announced Friday.

According to NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport, Moore was waived because he and teammate Cullen Jenkins fought before Friday’s practice over not getting free Beats by Dre headphones like other players.

REALLY?????    :duh:

Good thing they weren't giving out Bose radios.  He might have killed someone.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 12 Dec 2015, 01:59 pm
From SI.com today:

The New York Giants have released defensive end Damontre Moore for violating team rules, the team announced Friday.

According to NFL.com’s Ian Rapoport, Moore was waived because he and teammate Cullen Jenkins fought before Friday’s practice over not getting free Beats by Dre headphones like other players.

REALLY?????    :duh:

Good thing they weren't giving out Bose radios.  He might have killed someone.

 :lol:

Moore earns about $550,000 a year and he couldn't buy his own... :roll:  :scratch: :duh:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 12 Dec 2015, 02:16 pm
:lol:

Moore earns about $550,000 a year and he couldn't buy his own... :roll:  :scratch: :duh:
Rodge - You are attempting to impose adult logic on individuals who have never used it. They no doubt feel they were "dissed" and must vent their anger accordingly. Same reaction fuels mass murderers.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 12 Dec 2015, 03:35 pm
Good point, Tom.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: SteveFord on 12 Dec 2015, 06:40 pm
I could see beating someone who tried to GIVE me a set of Beats by Dre headphones...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 12 Dec 2015, 07:20 pm
I could see beating someone who tried to GIVE me a set of Beats by Dre headphones...


 :lol:


I was at work with two younger dudes and they were saying how great Beats were - having listened to them at BB. When I chimed in that they weren't really that good and that there were others brands that were better, one adamantly said, "they are great headphones!"  :duh:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: finsup on 20 Dec 2015, 10:20 pm
Panthers are 14-0. Certainly looked like it was going to be a smack-down of the Giants after going up 35-7.  Respect to Giants for not giving up.  Hope the Panthers learn you have to #KeepPounding until the clock reads 0:00.

He's a great player but that jerk Beckham Jr. should have been ejected from the game.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: FireGuy on 23 Dec 2015, 01:18 am

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Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vonnie123 on 27 Dec 2015, 01:41 am
Panthers are 14-0. Certainly looked like it was going to be a smack-down of the Giants after going up 35-7.  Respect to Giants for not giving up.  Hope the Panthers learn you have to #KeepPounding until the clock reads 0:00.

He's a great player but that jerk Beckham Jr. should have been ejected from the game.

Panthers are 14 - 0, but not sure if that will equate to winning the big prize.  Panthers lack big game experience - the playoffs will be the big test.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vonnie123 on 27 Dec 2015, 01:43 am

 :lol:


I was at work with two younger dudes and they were saying how great Beats were - having listened to them at BB. When I chimed in that they weren't really that good and that there were others brands that were better, one adamantly said, "they are great headphones!"  :duh:

If you don't know what good headphones are, Beats might seem good.  It's all relative.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 27 Dec 2015, 03:20 am
If you don't know what good headphones are, Beats might seem good.  It's all relative.
Same goes for football --- there are people who like the Cowboys.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vonnie123 on 27 Dec 2015, 06:21 am
Certainly was a good game tonight.  Why the Eagles don't fire Chip Kelly - I'll never know?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 27 Dec 2015, 06:24 am
Same goes for football --- there are people who like the Cowboys.
And there are those that don't.  JerryJ doesn't mind if you love or hate the Boys as long as you keep talking about them.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 27 Dec 2015, 06:26 am
... Why the Eagles don't fire Chip Kelly - I'll never know?
...but.. but... the media says he's a genius!...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 27 Dec 2015, 11:40 am
...but.. but... the media says he's a genius!...

No they don't, and they haven't for awhile.  Only smarmy haters that have nothing to say about their own team do.  Chip is a failure in every facet of his responsibility.  All he had to do was simply repeat last year's mediocre performance and the Eagles walk away with the division, he couldn't even get close to that.  He needs to be fired because the alternative is worse, keeping him drags the team down more than they already are, more than almost any coach you could hire off the street would.  I didn't think Lurie would get rid of him, but after this performance maybe, hopefully.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 27 Dec 2015, 01:47 pm
No they don't, and they haven't for awhile. 
True, although the media was still on the Chip bandwagon at the beginning of the season, with a few taking a wait and see position, they have jumped ship in droves with each passing week... and he did deliver for a couple of seasons. 
But extremes make good storylines... Chip genius, Jerry Jones buffoon, and evil Belichick.   
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: ArthurDent on 27 Dec 2015, 04:44 pm
Go Hawks !

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Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 27 Dec 2015, 08:58 pm
The Panthers are no longer undefeated.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 27 Dec 2015, 10:02 pm
True, although the media was still on the Chip bandwagon at the beginning of the season, with a few taking a wait and see position, they have jumped ship in droves with each passing week... and he did deliver for a couple of seasons. 
But extremes make good storylines... Chip genius, Jerry Jones buffoon, and evil Belichick.

Yup, I'd pretty much agree with that statement.  Chip had a pretty good 1st year taking over a 4 win team, but the seeds of failure were sown then.  Regression in year two and a faster rate of regression in year 3 may end in his resignation.  The scenario would be Jeffery taking the GM job away and Chip quits.  One can hope...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 28 Dec 2015, 06:02 pm
Yup, I'd pretty much agree with that statement.  Chip had a pretty good 1st year taking over a 4 win team, but the seeds of failure were sown then.  Regression in year two and a faster rate of regression in year 3 may end in his resignation.  The scenario would be Jeffery taking the GM job away and Chip quits.  One can hope...


Well, it seems like Kelly tried to bring the college atmosphere (including his coaching style and personnel moves) and I just don't think it works. Hopefully, he stays...said as a Skins fan!


Who'd a thunk it? I had my serious doubts 11 weeks into the season. Scott McC is really going to turn this team around. They couldn't have done it without the backups. Two starters on D came in in mid-season!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 30 Dec 2015, 12:41 am
Hot off the presses:
Chip Kelly fired; Cowboys, Redskins, and Giants in mourning.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 30 Dec 2015, 01:31 am
News broke on my way home tonight on sports talk radio here in the greater Philadelphia area.  Chip was most likely fired at this time for his comments yesterday where he said he wasn't in charge of player personnel so don't blame him.  I'm sure that set Jeffery on his ear when he heard that.  An interim head coach and a temporary director of player personnel were named for the last game of the season.  Stopped at taco bell on the way home and there were cheers from the people eating when they heard the news.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 30 Dec 2015, 02:38 am
Hot off the presses:
Chip Kelly fired; Cowboys, Redskins, and Giants in mourning.

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: steve in jersey on 30 Dec 2015, 03:11 pm
Hot off the presses:
Chip Kelly fired; Cowboys, Redskins, and Giants in mourning.

This happening was about as predictable as Chip was in his play calling this year !

There was no way Chip could have had the same type of success running his no huddle offense without having the same amount of offensive threats or cohesive offensive line play he had in previous years.

I guess Kelly didn't recognize the importance of a teams player personnel is way more important in the Pro game. In the College game you are more able to overcome the teams you are facing through game planning alone. That doesn't work in the Pro game for several reasons ! The first being that the player skill set level of the team that you're playing every week is high enough for each game to be competitive.

I think Chip should have entertained the College coaching offers he received earlier this season, as he doesn't really appear to be able to communicate much higher than a very basic level with his players at this level !


Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 3 Jan 2016, 07:41 pm
Wow; is Kellen Moore for real?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 3 Jan 2016, 08:55 pm
Hang on Bills!!!! Steelers  :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 3 Jan 2016, 09:52 pm
Wow; is Kellen Moore for real?


He's playing against a secondary that is out a starting safety, a first and second string CB along with 2 injuries against a team with a big lead.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Johnny2Bad on 4 Jan 2016, 01:22 am
It's xx:20 Sunday Night ... the Minnesota @ Green Bay game will start in a moment.

You are normally crazy to bet against Green Bay most of the time, and you are certifiable to bet against Green Bay at Lambeau Field almost any time, but if there is ever a time to do so, tonight against a division rival would be one.

I just have a feeling, ther is no other reasonable explanation, but I think the Vikings prevail tonight.

Call me crazy.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Johnny2Bad on 4 Jan 2016, 01:27 am
The TV guys in particular like to play up the "Frozen Tundra" story especially during Monday Night, Sunday Night and any Playoff game, but everybody does know that since the last renovation, sometime around the late 80's/early 90's, the field surface at Lambeau is hot-water heated to 60F, right?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 4 Jan 2016, 03:42 am
Steelers actual make the playoffs, whodda thunk it.  Thank you Rex Ryan and the wonderful Bills team.  On to Cincinnati. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Rob Babcock on 4 Jan 2016, 07:49 pm
Vikes win the north!  Vikes win the north! :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 4 Jan 2016, 08:03 pm
...and Coughlin has retired from the Giants.

The only NFC East team not in turmoil seems to the Skins.... :scratch:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 4 Jan 2016, 08:40 pm
...and Coughlin has retired from the Giants.


The only NFC East team not in turmoil seems to the Skins.... :scratch:
:scratch: No turmoil at Dallas... the head coach is safe, and even the coordinators are likely to be back. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 5 Jan 2016, 01:09 am

:scratch: No turmoil at Dallas... the head coach is safe, and even the coordinators are likely to be back. 


OK - I take the statement back then!


The only NFC East team not in turmoil seems to the Skins.... :scratch:





Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: jimdgoulding on 5 Jan 2016, 01:29 am
Go Hawks !

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These guys are putting the pedal to the metal of late.  Lynch comin back anytime soon?  See ya in the playoffs.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: ArthurDent on 5 Jan 2016, 04:27 am
These guys are putting the pedal to the metal of late.  Lynch comin back anytime soon?  See ya in the playoffs.

He's back in town as of today, will be practicing with the team Wed, according to reports. Also appears most of the other starters out last week in AZ will be back, though Chancellor is still a bit iffy and a couple are still under concussion protocol. I think maybe they are done shooting themselves in the foot.  :scratch:  But only time will tell.  :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: ArthurDent on 9 Jan 2016, 04:58 pm
Well that sucks ! After practicing this week "Beastmode" is a no go  :sad:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 9 Jan 2016, 09:43 pm
KC lookin good . 106 yard opening kickoff return .
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 9 Jan 2016, 10:48 pm
Houston looks horrid!!!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 9 Jan 2016, 10:56 pm
Houston looks horrid!!!

More specifically Brian Hoyer..Too many bad decisions, bad throws. Texans D is doing their part holding KC to two field goals.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: SteveFord on 10 Jan 2016, 01:07 am
The Chiefs looked really good; maybe it was just because the Texans played so poorly?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 10 Jan 2016, 01:55 am
Well , Fitzgerald DAndre Toussaint , third string running back is now running well and had a great pass reception for 30 yards , all running after the catch . Steelers must run well. Ben has to not turn the ball over as he has done the past five games. Should be a great game , maybe sloppy , but close and hard fought. Steelers don't throw long well against the Bengels , so lots of dinky screens.
Go Steelers !!!! :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: londonbarn on 10 Jan 2016, 02:15 am
YEAH!! GOOO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!    just heard the Eagles asked permission to meet with  Coughlin...hmmmm
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 10 Jan 2016, 03:57 am
Looks like Big Ben out for the season, for sure game . 15-7
14min left
Getting real interesting !! :o
Bungles looked horrid in offense all game.
Finally get the ball at mid field , and Bengels coach finally gets smart , throw the ball real long to get a pass interference . Easy !!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 10 Jan 2016, 04:38 am
Big Ben coming back , 1:26 left to go down the field to hit a field goal to win .
They intercepted , Shazeer strips Bengel!!!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 10 Jan 2016, 04:54 am
Shot to the head!! On incomplete pass!! 15 yard penalty on Bungels after to make it a chip shot !! Unsportsmanlike penalty!!! Holy fuck !!! 35 yard chip shot !!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 10 Jan 2016, 04:57 am
How could they possibly be that damned stupid??? :banghead:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vonnie123 on 10 Jan 2016, 05:03 am
Cincinnati's choke streak continues. How can you self-implode like that in the last two minutes.  Their fans have to be heartbroken (again).

Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 10 Jan 2016, 05:04 am
Wow!

 After the Texans stunk up the place and the degeneration of what the Bengals just did, I don't think I can remember two playoff teams that could have possibly played any worse.

What a horrible display of football...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 10 Jan 2016, 05:10 am
Yes a disgrace. That headshot to Brown was ugly and violent and could have really paralyzed him ! I did not really see what exactly happened in the unsportsmanlike like conduct . Can someone explain?? 4 field goals for Boswell ! So Bizarre!!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 10 Jan 2016, 05:15 am
Actually , I thought the Bengels showed incredible grit coming back from 15-0. If not for those two penalties , they should have won it, or force a 50 yard field goal attempt .
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 10 Jan 2016, 05:22 am
The one play I still don't understand was where Shazir led with the crown of his helmet and hit Bernard in the face and knocked him out with a concussion and nothing was even questioned.

I'll just say that computer program that predicted the Cardinals/Bengals to play in the SB didn't take in consideration the stupidity of Burfict and Jones.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 10 Jan 2016, 05:23 am
Just read Adam Jones got a dead ball foul while the Steelers medical staff were on the field. Not really sure what he did ? Pacman already blowing up on Twitter !!
I don't tweet . Wonder what he is saying?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 10 Jan 2016, 05:24 am
They deserved to lose after those cheap shots.  I also thought the kid played well, especially in the two touchdown drives.  But they blew away the respect at the end.  Go Steelers!

Pacman bumped an official I believe.  The hit by Shazir deserved a flag in my view, but the explanation was that he had become a runner, just barely I suppose.  I'm guessing Ben and Brown will likely be at least questionable for next week.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Rick Craig on 10 Jan 2016, 05:29 am
Some real cheap shots in the Bengals - Steelers game. I'm pulling for Denver to win over Pittsburgh without Big Ben.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 10 Jan 2016, 05:35 am
R u kidding . Ben will play . He is very very tough!!! Just hope Brown is playing . He has the most yards ever in a three year span!!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JLM on 10 Jan 2016, 12:12 pm
Steelers/Bengals game = WWF.  Ridiculous. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: sebrof on 10 Jan 2016, 02:53 pm
Forget the comeback. Forget the hit to the head with no flag. Forget the fumble with under 2 minutes.
The Bengals completely lost their heads in the last minute and lost the game with stupid plays. They were throwing flags left and right for anything resembling unsportsmanlike. Are those guys really that freakin' stupid that they couldn't see the bigger picture?
I watch a lot of football and I've never seen a worse loss. Shame on those guys, they deserve to lose.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: sts9fan on 10 Jan 2016, 03:32 pm
That late game was a clown show. Looks like the road to the SB will go through Denver. I was hoping the Patriots would not have to travel. Oh well.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 10 Jan 2016, 03:53 pm
Earlier in the year I would have agreed with you 100 percent, but lately those Chiefs are looking tougher and the Pats weaker.  Could be the Patriots aren't traveling anywhere this year.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 10 Jan 2016, 08:41 pm
The one play I still don't understand was where Shazir led with the crown of his helmet and hit Bernard in the face and knocked him out with a concussion and nothing was even questioned.


I didn't see the game but helmet-to-helmet hits are not called between the hash marks when there's a bunch of players there. If you watch the injuries to the two Skins players in the last Dallas game - they were both helmet-to-helmet hits in the middle.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 10 Jan 2016, 08:51 pm
I didn't see the game but helmet-to-helmet hits are not called between the hash marks when there's a bunch of players there. If you watch the injuries to the two Skins players in the last Dallas game - they were both helmet-to-helmet hits in the middle.

Here it is...if this is ok to do then I'm confused on this whole player safety thing.

http://deadspin.com/giovani-bernard-and-the-unfortunate-hit-that-knocked-1752060073
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 10 Jan 2016, 09:34 pm
And the Vikings miss a 27 yard field goal in the closing seconds to lose the game!!! :oops: :o :duh: :duh:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Woodsea on 10 Jan 2016, 09:40 pm
And the Vikings miss a 27 yard field goal in the closing seconds to lose the game!!! :oops: :o :duh: :duh:
SWEET
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 10 Jan 2016, 10:24 pm
The Packers offense looks very pedestrian ! Down 5-0.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 10 Jan 2016, 10:25 pm
Pedestrian?  Hell, they can't even manage a walker!    :duh:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 11 Jan 2016, 12:04 am
17 straight point for Greenbay ! Then Redskins score to go up 18-17 then GB with a great drive to go up 24-18 . Very entertaning !
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Rob Babcock on 11 Jan 2016, 02:50 am
Leave it to the Vikings to pull defeat from the jaws of victory! :duh: :lol:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: fatalbert on 11 Jan 2016, 03:19 am
Vikings - what a disappointment!!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JakeJ on 11 Jan 2016, 05:19 am
Even before the Hawks/Vikings game started I was confident I was watching the last game the Hawks would play for the season.  Certain!  The cold factor alone took its toll on both teams.

I think every single person in TCF Bank Stadium today is still stupefied at the outcome.  I cannot imagine what Blair Walsh is going through tonight.

My condolences Vikings fans, from a Hawks fan.  I know we're moving on but it doesn't feel like we earned it.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Rob Babcock on 11 Jan 2016, 05:47 am
It if was any other team I'd chalk it up to just bad luck, but the Vikes transcend concepts like "luck". :lol:  It looked they had 'em by the throat but all the time I was wondering how they'd manage to screw it up. Because they always do somehow. :roll:  To be honest though I'm not all that bummed out. Sure it would have been nice to see them advance to the next round but realistically at the beginning of the season I thought they were a year or two out from being a playoff team.  In my mind they overachieved in getting to the playoffs.  In that context they kind of exceeded my expectations. Bridgewater is growing in his skill set every month and it looks like the game is starting to slow down for him.  At last I think the Vikes have their franchise guy. No, he's no Favre or Brady, maybe more like a Trent Dilfer but with much better physical skills.  AP probably doesn't have many seasons left of being the horse they can ride to 1,500 yards and a playoff appearance but hopefully he'll age gracefully as Teddy Bridgewater matures.

With luck I'll live to see them lose Super Bowls instead of playoff games. :wink:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 11 Jan 2016, 02:50 pm
Vikings - what a disappointment!!

Bengals = even greater disappointment. At the end of that game they were not professional, rank amateurs at best………….. Poor Marv Lewis, I suspect there has never been a coach with a respectable regular season record and not a playoff record to match ……..
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JakeJ on 11 Jan 2016, 03:31 pm

With luck I'll live to see them lose Super Bowls instead of playoff games. :wink:


Way to stay positive, Rob!  :rotflmao:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 11 Jan 2016, 05:16 pm
Way to stay positive, Rob!  :rotflmao:
Rob - Are you too young to have seen the 4 Super Bowls the Vikings lost?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vonnie123 on 11 Jan 2016, 06:56 pm
Even before the Hawks/Vikings game started I was confident I was watching the last game the Hawks would play for the season.  Certain!  The cold factor alone took its toll on both teams.

I think every single person in TCF Bank Stadium today is still stupefied at the outcome.  I cannot imagine what Blair Walsh is going through tonight.

My condolences Vikings fans, from a Hawks fan.  I know we're moving on but it doesn't feel like we earned it.

Felt the same way, but it's a game of execution and mistakes.  Never leave the game in the hands of a kicker, unless you have to.

Teams like to draft, sign, and obtain long range kickers.  They would be smarter to sign one who don't miss often, even when their range is 5-10 yards less.

(Example - Chargers cutting Nick Novak....mega dumb move)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Rob Babcock on 11 Jan 2016, 08:03 pm
Rob - Are you too young to have seen the 4 Super Bowls the Vikings lost?

I was alive but pretty young, not really old enough to understand football.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: SteveFord on 17 Jan 2016, 12:54 am
KC proved to be a bunch of boneheads.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 17 Jan 2016, 04:30 am
Another Hail Mary for Aaron !!! Wow !!! 5 seconds left !!! Wow !!!! Watch it !! Overtime !!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 17 Jan 2016, 04:33 am
How do you flip a coin and the coin not flip? This game is too weird.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 17 Jan 2016, 04:39 am
Just when I was about to blast Arians for poor playing calling and Palmer for choking they totally redeem themselves...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 17 Jan 2016, 04:43 am
Palmer was aweful . Larry Fitzgerald is the man !!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 17 Jan 2016, 07:34 pm
31 to zip at the half. The stage is set for a big Seattle comeback. Place your bets.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 17 Jan 2016, 07:35 pm
Panthers slaughtering Seattle 31-0
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 17 Jan 2016, 08:04 pm
ESPN odds of Seattle winning , .04%
Um , I guess that don't take into account Russell Wilsons will to win.
31-14 in the 3rd quarter
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 17 Jan 2016, 10:42 pm
Big Ben throwing the ball way better then many anticipated.
Denver receivers not catching the ball.
Steelers in too many third and longs . Two horrid punts for the Steelers!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 18 Jan 2016, 12:49 am

Steelers in too many third and longs . Two horrid punts for the Steelers!

Yeah, ain't it GREAT!!!!    :lol:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 18 Jan 2016, 12:51 am
So much for the talk about this being the year of Wild Card Teams. Next weak #2 visits #1 in both divisions.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: SteveFord on 18 Jan 2016, 01:03 am
This weekend has had the weirdest games. 
Maybe Denver will spend the week learning how to catch the ball, that would be good.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 18 Jan 2016, 01:05 am
Yup, when the Steelers fumbled I said that's the game.  They're defense wasn't going to hold up.  Without that fumble the Steelers go down and score, winning the game.  But if ifs and buts were soups and nuts a merry Christmas it would be.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JLM on 18 Jan 2016, 01:37 am
So next weekend it's 1 vs 2 and 1 vs 2.  When's the last time that happened?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JakeJ on 18 Jan 2016, 01:39 am
But if it's and buts were soups and nuts a merry Christmas it would be.

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 18 Jan 2016, 01:25 pm
So next weekend it's 1 vs 2 and 1 vs 2. 

So who goes to Santa Clara?

Can Superman hold off the Arizona Fitzgeralds?

Is this Payton's swan song?

Does Billacheat adjust air pressure for playing at Mile High?

Super Bowl 50...NE vs Carolina...Carolina runs away with the Lombardi Trophy!

   
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: germay0653 on 18 Jan 2016, 02:30 pm
The NFL really needs to work on it's rules and officiating.  The Packers vs Cardinals is a prime example.  Not a fan of either team but there were so many things wrong with that game for both teams.  The missed calls, the coin toss, the OT rules. Yes, first and foremost it's a business but they're taking the sport completely out of the game and making it a spectacle like another, supposed, sport we all know and love.  It's becoming a scripted joke for increased ratings.

Rant over!    :evil:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: monte on 18 Jan 2016, 02:47 pm
Just think of it as WWE in prime time
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 18 Jan 2016, 03:20 pm
The NFL really needs to work on it's rules and officiating.  The Packers vs Cardinals is a prime example.  Not a fan of either team but there were so many things wrong with that game for both teams.  The missed calls, the coin toss, the OT rules. Yes, first and foremost it's a business but they're taking the sport completely out of the game and making it a spectacle like another, supposed, sport we all know and love.  It's becoming a scripted joke for increased ratings.

Rant over!    :evil:
I have to agree wholeheartedly. The league is so fixated on money that they have completely lost the "sport" designation. It's all about show business - contracts and ratings. The games are officiated toward an outcome entirely too often. I have maintained for years that there are infractions on virtually every play and by calling or ignoring them subjectively the refs are able to steer the outcome. Whether this is in place to benefit Las Vegas or just the ratings, I can't say, but I do feel that it occurs regularly.
I would like to see Thursday night and overseas games eliminated entirely. Does anyone else here feel this way?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 18 Jan 2016, 03:23 pm
Just think of it as WWE in prime time

Yep.  And I'm getting tired of it.  All the on-field meltdowns and trash talking, then all on-field smiles, hugs and handshakes after the game.  But I don't think the refs are skewing things.
I DO think that after the recent Los Angeles football lottery that Congress should review the league's tax status.  SERIOUSLY review it.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 18 Jan 2016, 03:40 pm
Yep.  And I'm getting tired of it.  All the on-field meltdowns and trash talking, then all on-field smiles, hugs and handshakes after the game.  But I don't think the refs are skewing things.
I DO think that after the recent Los Angeles football lottery that Congress should review the league's tax status.  SERIOUSLY review it.
Great point, Bob. Letting the NFL dodge taxes as a not-for-profit is beyond ludicrous and surely insults all of us real taxpayers. And, on top of that, we build them new stadiums with public money, only to see them jump ship for an even bigger extortion offering 20 years later. You GAS people know exactly what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 18 Jan 2016, 03:51 pm
You GAS people know exactly what I'm talking about.

Yeah, and we Baltimore natives who now live in Missouri REALLY know……  It's one thing to lose a team, quite another to lose it to a father/son team of drunks…..
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 18 Jan 2016, 05:22 pm
Yeah, and we Baltimore natives who now live in Missouri REALLY know……  It's one thing to lose a team, quite another to lose it to a father/son team of drunks…..
Both the locations you reference came up big in the 2015 racist sweepstakes. Probably just coincidence --- although they do say, "Missouri loves company".
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 18 Jan 2016, 06:43 pm
Tom, that's BS analogy, coming what, 30 years apart?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 18 Jan 2016, 08:10 pm
You're right. What was I thinking?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JLM on 18 Jan 2016, 10:54 pm
Just think of it as WWE in prime time

+1  :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: R_burke on 18 Jan 2016, 11:05 pm
So next weekend it's 1 vs 2 and 1 vs 2.  When's the last time that happened?

My thoughts exactly, pretty sure it's been a long time.  Now to see if Superbowl is #1 vs. #1
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 24 Jan 2016, 09:29 pm
Pretty nice game in Dever.
Dever up 14-9 . Dever swarming and sacking, With two interceptions in the first quarter . Brady taking some tremendous hits ! The last hit looked really painful . Brady is pretty darn tough !
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 24 Jan 2016, 11:48 pm
Broncos held on by a hair. Missed extra point did tthe Patriots in . The kicker hass made 540 straight before the miss.
Great drive in the last min . by the Pats to try a 2 point conversion to tie . No dice. Like to Manning win it all! :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 24 Jan 2016, 11:59 pm

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=135877)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JLM on 25 Jan 2016, 12:07 am
Good game, now Manning has a chance to win SB 50 and go into retirement (?) in style.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: mcgsxr on 25 Jan 2016, 12:13 am
So much for my Pats vs Panthers Super Bowl. 

Now,we find out if I was 50 or 100% wrong.   :duh:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: mav52 on 25 Jan 2016, 12:27 am
It's amazing the results you get when footballs are inflated correctly   :D

Would like to see the Panthers pull this out.   
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 25 Jan 2016, 12:28 am
Panthers up 17-0!!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 25 Jan 2016, 12:57 am
As a Dallas fan, I was glad to see Demarcus Ware have such a great game.  He didn't get credit for the sacks, but he was at Brady's legs and feet the entire game. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 25 Jan 2016, 01:20 am
Carson Palmer sucks SH#T!!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 25 Jan 2016, 01:54 am
Broncos have now moved into a 4 way tie with the Steelers, Giants and Patriots. Each team has gone to the Super Bowl 8 times. Denver, at this point, is 2-5, having beaten Green Bay and Atlanta and having lost Dallas, Washington, Giants, San Francisco and Seattle. I think Carolina is going to put another game in the lost column for the almost always almost good enough Broncos.

Carson Palmer looks about like that Houston QB did against KC. I forgot the guy's name already.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JLM on 25 Jan 2016, 02:29 am
Broncos have now moved into a 4 way tie with the Steelers, Giants and Patriots. Each team has gone to the Super Bowl 8 times. Denver, at this point, is 2-5, having beaten Green Bay and Atlanta and having lost Dallas, Washington, Giants, San Francisco and Seattle. I think Carolina is going to put another game in the lost column for the almost always almost good enough Broncos.

Carson Palmer looks about like that Houston QB did against KC. I forgot the guy's name already.

I was going to nominate you for the job of compressing 300 hours of ESPN pre SB coverage that we can expect for the next two weeks into 15 seconds until you couldn't remember Brian Hoyer's name (who provided another recent rough spot for his ala mater, Michigan State).

I'm on a permanent boycott of Fox, so I'll wait to find out the final outcome of the Panther/Cardinals game.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: SteveFord on 25 Jan 2016, 02:49 am
I just turned it off after Carolina decided to go for 2 points with under 6 minutes on the clock.
At some point you have to realize that you've won, anything else is just running up the score.

Go, Broncos!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 25 Jan 2016, 02:55 am
Broncos have now moved into a 4 way tie with the Steelers, Giants and Patriots. Each team has gone to the Super Bowl 8 times.
The Giants have been to the Super Bowl five times (1987, 1991, 2001, 2008 and 2012). Dallas has 8 appearances.
Here is the list of all teams that made it to the Super Bowl.
http://www.betfirm.com/most-super-bowl-appearances/
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Rob Babcock on 25 Jan 2016, 03:02 am
Who else feels like Carolina will beat Denver by four or five touchdowns? :o
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 25 Jan 2016, 03:48 am
Who else feels like Carolina will beat Denver by four or five touchdowns? :o
I don't think it will be close, but 5 touchdowns?.  Although Denver has the D to keep it close, it looks like Peyton is nearly done.  I could see 35-10.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vonnie123 on 25 Jan 2016, 05:00 am
Who else feels like Carolina will beat Denver by four or five touchdowns? :o

I hope not.  I don't want to get flashed by Superman's cape that many times.  Wish he were more like Barry Sanders.  Everytime Cam makes a big play, it's like some celebration event.

Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Rob Babcock on 25 Jan 2016, 07:43 am
I hope not.  I don't want to get flashed by Superman's cape that many times.  Wish he were more like Barry Sanders.  Everytime Cam makes a big play, it's like some celebration event.

I dunno, I kind of like it.  He's like a kid on the playground.  The ol' No Fun League gets too stuffy sometimes, Cam's a breath of fresh air IMO.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 25 Jan 2016, 09:10 am
I was going to nominate you for the job of compressing 300 hours of ESPN pre SB coverage that we can expect for the next two weeks into 15 seconds until you couldn't remember Brian Hoyer's name (who provided another recent rough spot for his ala mater, Michigan State).

I'm on a permanent boycott of Fox, so I'll wait to find out the final outcome of the Panther/Cardinals game.
I'm sorry if I let you down, JLM. Brian Hoyer was so forgettable in that game, I forgot him in my post.
S. Clark - Looks like you are right about the Giants. I just repeated something an announcer had said on air. ApparentlyI got it wrong - or he did. Fault is mine - either way - for not checking before I posted or for misremembering something I had heard said during the game.  Anyway, thanks for the correction.

Jeff - Permanent boycott of Fox is commendable. I don't suppose you can say why on here but a PM would be appreciated.

Peyton Manning has a history of underperforming in the biggest games and being compromised by cold or otherwise inclement weather. The one time he did win a Super Bowl, it was because Indy had a little guy named Bob Sanders who seemed to be everywhere on defense. Since Denver has a very competent D and the game will be played in a location that is unlikely to be freezing cold, I have a little hope that the Broncos might prevail. On the other hand, if Carolina scores more than 3 touchdowns, I think they win. There's no way Denver gets more than 30 points without some defensive or special team scores.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 25 Jan 2016, 09:32 am
I just turned it off after Carolina decided to go for 2 points with under 6 minutes on the clock.
At some point you have to realize that you've won, anything else is just running up the score.


Yeah, that's very Bellychick-ian.


I'm on a permanent boycott of Fox, so I'll wait to find out the final outcome of the Panther/Cardinals game.

The purpose of a boycott is to affect the company's bottom line. Watching one game on a channel that's already included in your cable - or over the airwaves - is not going to make a difference.

Don't worry, we won't tell if you do watch it.  :no_speak:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 25 Jan 2016, 11:38 am
I hope not.  I don't want to get flashed by Superman's cape that many times.  Wish he were more like Barry Sanders.  Everytime Cam makes a big play, it's like some celebration event.

I agree, what happened to acting like you been there before.  Smacks of an immaturity that is distasteful to me.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 25 Jan 2016, 12:17 pm
I think it was Bill Parcels who told his players when they get to the end zone to act like you've been there before.

Cam Newton was the #1 pick in the 2011 NFL draft and Von Miller followed as #2 overall. This Super Bowl may reveal whether they were chosen in the proper order. I'm most worried about Manning reverting to his turnover ways. The other concern relates to officiating. Denver seems to walk a thin line in their defensive techniques. It does appear that the refs have been told to let them play in the big games. Recent games (even the Steelers) seemed to be short on flags. So guys like Talib may be allowed to work their magic. If not, I fear the Broncos may set a record for Super Bowl losses - if they don't have it already.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JLM on 25 Jan 2016, 01:16 pm
Barry Sanders spiked the ball on his first NFL TD, then made the mistake of asking his dad what he thought.  Dad berated the spike and he never did it again.

Defense is more about team play, so it's hard to compare Miller to Newton.

My boycott is tiny bit of personal civil disobedience.

Manning's arm is so weak, how can they win?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rodge827 on 25 Jan 2016, 01:46 pm
Who else feels like Carolina will beat Denver by four or five touchdowns? :o

After yestersdays game we might think that to be true. The Denver D could keep Cam in check? They are the #1 defense and we're all over Brady causing a major disruption to his game. Payton looked great, but I do feel the Panthers take it 27-17!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: cab on 25 Jan 2016, 01:49 pm
I think it was Bill Parcels who told his players when they get to the end zone to act like you've been there before.

Lombardi, I believe...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 25 Jan 2016, 02:13 pm
I'm fairly certain Parcells said that but I conferred with Google and divined the fact that Vince Lombardi is indeed credited with that sage advice. Just looking at the two men suggests to me that the sophisticated and noble advice is more likely to have been issued by Lombardi than the slovenly and bombastic Parcels. Of course, the fact that Vince was coaching many years before Parcells should be taken onto account also. I stand corrected - again.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rollo on 25 Jan 2016, 04:19 pm
  New England  cheaters OUT, loving it. Great game.


charles
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: mcgsxr on 25 Jan 2016, 05:46 pm
I could do with less "running into the center of the field and pretending to dig a grave for the QB" after a sack.

I can live with a spiked football and a high 5 or two, but the ritual posing is no better than the "Icky Shuffle" used to be for me.

While I agree that some players go overboard with their celebrations, I was repeatedly touched by how many players after a TD gave a young fan in the crowd the ball - boys and girls.  That I thought was really awesome, and allowed for some excellent photo ops of the youngster jumping up and down in pure joy.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Charles Calkins on 25 Jan 2016, 06:05 pm

   I'm caught between a rock and a hard place. I'd like to see the Broncos win the Super Bowl.
   Just because it's probably Peyton Manning's last game playing football.
   On the other hand I don't want Carolina to  lose. Because their coach is Ron Rivera.
   Went to and played great football at U.C. Berkeley. "Go Bears"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                                                             Cheers
                                                                         Charlie
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vinyl_lady on 25 Jan 2016, 07:42 pm
Denver's D is really elite and Wade Phillips might be the best defensive coordinator in the NFL. His schemes really frustrated Brady & New England. If their starting safeties are able to play, and Peyton doesn't turn it over, I think Carolina will have trouble scoring 20 points. If Baltimore can win a super bowl with Trent Dilfer and a great D, Denver can win with Peyton in the twilight of his career and a great D. He is still the best game manager playing the position and he is healthier than at any time this year. His teammates know this is Peyton's last opportunity and I think they will ratchet it up a notch. I think this is going to be a really good super bowl.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: roscoeiii on 25 Jan 2016, 08:00 pm
Denver's D is really elite and Wade Phillips might be the best defensive coordinator in the NFL. His schemes really frustrated Brady & New England. If their starting safeties are able to play, and Peyton doesn't turn it over, I think Carolina will have trouble scoring 20 points. If Baltimore can win a super bowl with Trent Dilfer and a great D, Denver can win with Peyton in the twilight of his career and a great D. He is still the best game manager playing the position and he is healthier than at any time this year. His teammates know this is Peyton's last opportunity and I think they will ratchet it up a notch. I think this is going to be a really good super bowl.

Agreed that it ought to be a great game. 2 really stellar Ds. Cam and that Carolina offense will be a different sort of challenge for Denver's D. But Wade has 2 weeks to scheme...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 25 Jan 2016, 08:01 pm
Denver's D is really elite and Wade Phillips might be the best defensive coordinator in the NFL. His schemes really frustrated Brady & New England. If their starting safeties are able to play, and Peyton doesn't turn it over, I think Carolina will have trouble scoring 20 points. If Baltimore can win a super bowl with Trent Dilfer and a great D, Denver can win with Peyton in the twilight of his career and a great D. He is still the best game manager playing the position and he is healthier than at any time this year. His teammates know this is Peyton's last opportunity and I think they will ratchet it up a notch. I think this is going to be a really good super bowl.
There is definite merit in those observations but don't forget that Ron Rivera is a pretty masterful DC himself. As usual, a lot will depend on the refs and how they choose to call the game.
It also should be considered that "Superman" is really quite a baby. If Carolina does not get off to their usual blazing start, he might start to melt down. Let's see how much fun he's having if the sack machine gets up his ass early. He may have the guts to dig deep but let's remember that the Bronkies just beat two of the toughest, most resilient and crafty QBs in the league, Brady and Ruthlessgroper. They also beat Phillip Rivers twice and he might well be the best passer in the NFL. I thank my lucky stars every year when the Charger management fails to give him the coaching and personnel that he warrants.
Lots to consider on both sides of the argument but I'm sure Kubiak knows they can't go down 31-0 in the first half and bounce back with Manning's near miss passing. This should be a thrilling game.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vinyl_lady on 25 Jan 2016, 08:11 pm
They also beat Phillip Rivers twice and he might well be the best passer in the NFL. I thank my lucky stars every year when the Charger management fails to give him the coaching and personnel that he warrants.

I certainly agree with this statement. He would be scary good if he had the tools to compliment his passing ability.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 25 Jan 2016, 09:10 pm

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=135924)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 25 Jan 2016, 10:26 pm
Lol Brick!!im in the blue for sure . Plus I would like to see Payton win on his way out . Fat chance , I think.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Stercom on 26 Jan 2016, 12:41 am
It also should be considered that "Superman" is really quite a baby. If Carolina does not get off to their usual blazing start, he might start to melt down. Let's see how much fun he's having if the sack machine gets up his ass early. He may have the guts to dig deep but let's remember that the Bronkies just beat two of the toughest, most resilient and crafty QBs in the league, Brady and Ruthlessgroper.

Newton is a baby? Brady whines every time he gets hit. You don't win 15 regular season games and 2 playoff games if you have a propensity to "melt down." The simple truth is both Brady and "Ruthlessgroper" can't run as well as Newton. I don't think the Seattle and Arizona defenses are slouches when it comes to sacking quarterbacks. Every time Denver blitzes its just another chance for Newton to make a big play - its one of the main reasons Carolina was the #1 scoring offense in the NFL this year.   
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: roscoeiii on 26 Jan 2016, 12:50 am
Newton is a baby? Brady whines every time he gets hit. You don't win 15 regular season games and 2 playoff games if you have a propensity to "melt down." The simple truth is both Brady and "Ruthlessgroper" can't run as well as Newton. I don't think the Seattle and Arizona defenses are slouches when it comes to sacking quarterbacks. Every time Denver blitzes its just another chance for Newton to make a big play - its one of the main reasons Carolina was the #1 scoring offense in the NFL this year.

But Denver was rushing 3 or 4 many times. That's what makes them especially scary. And IIRC, Panthers haven't played from behind much this year. How they react in that situation is an open Question.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: finsup on 26 Jan 2016, 01:08 am
I just turned it off after Carolina decided to go for 2 points with under 6 minutes on the clock. At some point you have to realize that you've won, anything else is just running up the score.

Go, Broncos!

I thought the same thing when they lined up, but then it was announced this was the first time Carolina had gone for two all season so why not do it with nothing on the line and the SB coming up next?

Denver's D is really elite and Wade Phillips might be the best defensive coordinator in the NFL. His schemes really frustrated Brady & New England.

I hope you're right.  Wade has been at the scene of the crime as a DC before in too many Bronco SB blow-outs. 

I'm on a permanent boycott of Fox, so I'll wait to find out the final outcome of the Panther/Cardinals game.


My boycott is tiny bit of personal civil disobedience.

Hmmm, and here I thought Fox was the anti-establishment media. :icon_lol:

I've been a long-time Bronco fan but now live near Charlotte and have posted a couple of times this season that the Panthers have not gotten the respect they deserve. They are the best team right now.  I want them to win for that reason.  But I want Peyton to go out a winner and hang it up as Elway did, so Go Broncs.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vinyl_lady on 26 Jan 2016, 01:15 am
I don't think the Seattle and Arizona defenses are slouches when it comes to sacking quarterbacks.

According to NFL stats, Denver was #1 defense and #1 in sacks. Seattle was 17th in sacks and Arizona was 21st. Carolina was 6th. FWIW, NE was 2nd and Pitts 3rd in sacks.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 26 Jan 2016, 02:13 am
For what it's worth, the NFL does love a marketable storyline and Peyton brings that in spades. He's a pretty widely admired player who was abandoned by his career team when neck injuries looked like they would end his career. He recovered - partially - and found a new team. Upon doing so he broke most single season records for scoring and passing on his way to the Super Bowl. Unfortunately, in that game he reinforced the popular meme about his inability to come through in the big one.
But now he's back in the big game again despite having missed 7 games this season due to multiple injuries. He's nearly 40 now and I think the very underrated team behind him is going to pull off the Super Bowl upset.
By next weekend we will all be drowning in hype and speculation. Now is a good time to remember another Lombardi quote about "any given Sunday".
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Stercom on 26 Jan 2016, 02:18 am
Seattle had the #2 defense in the NFL and Arizonia#5. New England #9 and Pittsburgh #21. Regardless of the number of sacks actually recorded I stand by the statement that Seattle and Arizonia are no slouches at rushing the passer. The common misconception is if you blitz Newton or put more pressure on him he will come unglued and lose the game.  Thats not what happens. Instead, more often than not, he runs and makes the first down or hits the man thats been left with single coverage. I think Wade Phillips will do what Seattle and Arizona should have done, which is drop extra guys into shallow coverage who can cover the short receiving routes and help stop the run. Don't let Newton get more than 2 or 3 yards a carry.  You are then gambling that he can't throw the deep ball consistently - or that Ginn will drop a perfect deep pass. If that happens, I agree, Carolina won't score more than a couple touchdowns and Denver will have a much better chance of winning. You bring lots of extra pressure on Newton and Carolina will put up 31 or 49 points.....and he will be dancing, handing footballs to little kids and smiling all the way to a NFL Championship.

Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: roscoeiii on 26 Jan 2016, 03:44 pm
Seattle had the #2 defense in the NFL and Arizonia#5. New England #9 and Pittsburgh #21. Regardless of the number of sacks actually recorded I stand by the statement that Seattle and Arizonia are no slouches at rushing the passer. The common misconception is if you blitz Newton or put more pressure on him he will come unglued and lose the game.  Thats not what happens. Instead, more often than not, he runs and makes the first down or hits the man thats been left with single coverage. I think Wade Phillips will do what Seattle and Arizona should have done, which is drop extra guys into shallow coverage who can cover the short receiving routes and help stop the run. Don't let Newton get more than 2 or 3 yards a carry.  You are then gambling that he can't throw the deep ball consistently - or that Ginn will drop a perfect deep pass. If that happens, I agree, Carolina won't score more than a couple touchdowns and Denver will have a much better chance of winning. You bring lots of extra pressure on Newton and Carolina will put up 31 or 49 points.....and he will be dancing, handing footballs to little kids and smiling all the way to a NFL Championship.

Yeah, the Broncos advantage should be an ability to bring pressure with a smaller number of rushers. Though I am not sure how much of that success against NE was due to weaknesses on the NE O-line. Not sure how Carolina's O-line compares in that respect, but from following the Panthers casually I get the impression that they are very well-rounded and pretty strong to excellent in all areas but the receiving core. And having G-Reg Olsen helps make up for some of that.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: mick wolfe on 26 Jan 2016, 04:12 pm
Yes Roscoe, and each day Greg Olsen thanks his lucky stars he's no longer a Bear.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: mick wolfe on 26 Jan 2016, 04:24 pm
Carson Palmer sucks SH#T!!

Just when Brian Hoyer was about to step up and accept the trophy for the finest display of quarterback incompetence in the 2016 playoffs, Palmer snatched it away. In a rather vigorous manner I might add.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Stercom on 26 Jan 2016, 04:31 pm
Yeah, the Broncos advantage should be an ability to bring pressure with a smaller number of rushers. Though I am not sure how much of that success against NE was due to weaknesses on the NE O-line. Not sure how Carolina's O-line compares in that respect, but from following the Panthers casually I get the impression that they are very well-rounded and pretty strong to excellent in all areas but the receiving core. And having G-Reg Olsen helps make up for some of that.

Agreed.  Getting to Newton with only 3 or 4 guys rushing is the key for Denver.  Easier said than done though. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vinyl_lady on 26 Jan 2016, 04:45 pm

I hope you're right.  Wade has been at the scene of the crime as a DC before in too many Bronco SB blow-outs. 

But he didn't have defensive talent then he has now. The Broncos were out-manned in those blowouts.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 26 Jan 2016, 08:55 pm
Just when Brian Hoyer was about to step up and accept the trophy for the finest display of quarterback incompetence in the 2016 playoffs, Palmer snatched it away. In a rather vigorous manner I might add.

I still can't believe Palmer's decision making in the last two games...waited all season for that?

Just saw this though that popped up on nfl.com. Surprised to see the names on this list next to Palmer.

http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000628659/carson-palmer-donovan-mcnabb-among-10-biggest-playoff-disappointments
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 7 Feb 2016, 11:08 pm
Rooting for the underdogs. Really, I just want to see an entertaining, close game.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: SteveFord on 7 Feb 2016, 11:10 pm
I'm hoping this is going to be a good game with the Broncos coming out on top.
We'll see!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 8 Feb 2016, 12:14 am
10-0 Broncos !! :thumb: great sack, strip, and td for the Orange!
And Carolina lost its leading running back to injury. This may be a Denver route?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 8 Feb 2016, 01:03 am
This game is super exciting !!!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: mav52 on 8 Feb 2016, 01:14 am
Carolina needs to find a offense or Denver takes this one with a run a way in the second half.   Fig Newton needs blocking. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 8 Feb 2016, 01:20 am
Superman looks tired...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: geowak on 8 Feb 2016, 01:32 am
Coldplay- I like them but they looked cheesy. Time for food and a beer break.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 8 Feb 2016, 01:35 am
My daughter's square won a cool 250 on the halftime score.  :thumb:

Puppy Monkey Baby cracks me up...  :rotflmao:

Great game so far!! :D
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 8 Feb 2016, 02:19 am
Everything seems to be going Denvers way . Interception, now NC needs at least a touchdown and a field goal.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: geowak on 8 Feb 2016, 02:27 am
Carolina's Hi-speed, low drag no-huddle offense is gone. Now the offense is going slower than an Amish buggy with one broke wheel...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 8 Feb 2016, 03:00 am
Denver just set a Super Bowl record for most consecutive failed third down attempts. They're trying to just hand this thing to Carolina...  Let's see if the Panthers can do anything...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 8 Feb 2016, 03:06 am
No , Denver won this on defense ! Wow !!! Incredible d!!!! :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: mav52 on 8 Feb 2016, 03:06 am
This game is over.   With that touchdown by Denver with 3:08 left its over for the Panthers
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 8 Feb 2016, 03:07 am
Now, will Denver start taking team photos on the sideline before the game is over?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: londonbarn on 8 Feb 2016, 03:16 am
Yes, for awhile, it seemed like Denver is trying to give it away, I agree..  BUT, !!!    The MVP HAS to go to the ENTIRE DEFENSIVE SQUAD!!!!!!  Bar none.......
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 8 Feb 2016, 03:17 am
I agree, the entire Bronco defense deserves the MVP but they might just give it to Von Miller.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: londonbarn on 8 Feb 2016, 03:17 am
Peyton should definitely retire after this win.... AWESOME way to go out and he doesnt have much left as well....
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: londonbarn on 8 Feb 2016, 03:22 am
Denver defense reminds me alot of my Seahawks defense back 2 years ago.....
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 8 Feb 2016, 03:25 am
Congrats to Peyton, the Broncos, and the new Orange Crush!!!

(http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Super+Bowl+XLVIII+Preview+jObTaif6YJFl.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 8 Feb 2016, 03:28 am
Yabba-DAB-adieu!!!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: TomS on 8 Feb 2016, 03:33 am
Congrats to Peyton and the Broncs. Very happy for him and I hope he's decided to end it on this high note. Their defense was incredible yet again against a powerhouse Carolina team that had a fantastic season themselves.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Charles Calkins on 8 Feb 2016, 03:38 am

 The game ball should go to Wade Phillips. Son of BUM! and Denver's defense coordinator.

                                                                Cheers
                                                          Charlie
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: londonbarn on 8 Feb 2016, 03:51 am
agreed...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vonnie123 on 8 Feb 2016, 04:58 am
Glad to see the Broncos beat the Superman show.  Manning needs to retire.  Broncos defense carried the day.  So many people thought it would be a Carolina rout.  Experience and a defense like this are hard to overcome.

Happy for Kubiak and Wade Phillips :)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 8 Feb 2016, 12:54 pm
Glad to see the Broncos beat the Superman show.  Manning needs to retire.  Broncos defense carried the day.  So many people thought it would be a Carolina rout.  Experience and a defense like this are hard to overcome.

Happy for Kubiak and Wade Phillips :)

+1.  Although I don't care about the coaches, I'm just glad to see Manning go out a winner, he deserves it.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 8 Feb 2016, 01:05 pm
Two things to note .
Cam Newton did not attempt to recover the ball he just fumbled. He thought about it , but chose not to . Wtf!!!! He is a giant pussy!!! They still could have won the game at that point.  Recover the fumble !! Punt , hold them to a three and out . Then go down and score the winning drive!! To not make any attempt to recover the ball that you just had lost shows no guts, character . Is anyone talking about this play on TV etc.?
  I'm not sure if you guys saw Cam's press conference, I just saw the end of it when he bolts. True the room sounded loud , but what a poor sport!! How about give the other team credit!, take responsibility! And go out in defeat with class and honor. Not Cam.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: zybar on 8 Feb 2016, 01:31 pm
Coldplay- I like them but they looked cheesy. Time for food and a beer break.

I like Coldplay also, but they were a poor choice for a halftime act.

This was one of the worst halftime shows in quite some time.

George
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 8 Feb 2016, 01:34 pm
Two things to note .
Cam Newton did not attempt to recover the ball he just fumbled. He thought about it , but chose not to . Wtf!!!! He is a giant pussy!!! They still could have won the game at that point.  Recover the fumble !! Punt , hold them to a three and out . Then go down and score the winning drive!! To not make any attempt to recover the ball that you just had lost shows no guts, character . Is anyone talking about this play on TV etc.?
  I'm not sure if you guys saw Cam's press conference, I just saw the end of it when he bolts. True the room sounded loud , but what a poor sport!! How about give the other team credit!, take responsibility! And go out in defeat with class and honor. Not Cam.

Yeah, I saw it and thought the same thing before the announcers mentioned it, he just took a side step away from the ball.  He got killed the whole game and didn't look like he wanted any more contact.  And to be fair there's no certainty that he would have recovered it if he did dive for the ball, but ya gotta try, right?

I don't fault him for the press conference, he could have been more gracious, but he just got his butt whipped in a game he was supposed to win.  He didn't say anything bad that I heard, just was down and depressed after losing.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 8 Feb 2016, 02:13 pm
I'm not one to defend Cam Newton but, in all fairness, we have to allow that he may have been coached not to risk it.

Andy Dalton threw an interception and then tried to tackle the defender who picked him. In the process he broke his thumb and killed the Bengals season. Yes, they made the playoffs anyway, but that team never looked the same after his injury.

Of course, Cam was in the waning minutes of a game that meant everything and there would be 6 months to recover from any injury but the Panthers, who hadn't done much all game, would do nothing at all without Cam.

Nonetheless, I see a little of Robert Griffin in Cam Newton. Manziel has some too. Geno Smith? Probably some others. These guys have a sense of importance and privilege that keeps them from serving the cause before thinking of themselves.

As a side note, the announcers made a big deal out of Peyton getting his 200th victory and, in the process, moving beyond a tie with Brett Favre. Out of curiosity, I looked up Tom Brady's # of wins. He's at 194 now so I think it is safe to say he will move into first place next year. Is there a QB playing today who will break into first place at some point in the future?
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vinyl_lady on 8 Feb 2016, 02:15 pm
Yeah, I saw it and thought the same thing before the announcers mentioned it, he just took a side step away from the ball.  He got killed the whole game and didn't look like he wanted any more contact.  And to be fair there's no certainty that he would have recovered it if he did dive for the ball, but ya gotta try, right?

I don't fault him for the press conference, he could have been more gracious, but he just got his butt whipped in a game he was supposed to win.  He didn't say anything bad that I heard, just was down and depressed after losing.

He acted like a soiled brat at the press conference. No class at all. One can be dejected abut losing, but still be professional and handle the moment with class. Also, I wonder what his teammates are thinking when the watch him back away from the fumble.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 8 Feb 2016, 02:16 pm
Good game.

The ads SUCKED!!!  Puppy/Monkee/Baby???  Constipation???  Upset bowels in a stadium seat???  Meds???  Even the A-B ads were uninspiring.    :duh:

Halftime was two shows, not one.  Each for a demographic.  The Coldplay show looked like it was produced in Korea, one from South (K-Pop) and one from the North, all rigid posturing.    :slap:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: zybar on 8 Feb 2016, 02:28 pm
I'm not one to defend Cam Newton but, in all fairness, we have to allow that he may have been coached not to risk it.

Andy Dalton threw an interception and then tried to tackle the defender who picked him. In the process he broke his thumb and killed the Bengals season. Yes, they made the playoffs anyway, but that team never looked the same after his injury.

Of course, Cam was in the waning minutes of a game that meant everything and there would be 6 months to recover from any injury but the Panthers, who hadn't done much all game, would do nothing at all without Cam.

Nonetheless, I see a little of Robert Griffin in Cam Newton. Manziel has some too. Geno Smith? Probably some others. These guys have a sense of importance and privilege that keeps them from serving the cause before thinking of themselves.

As a side note, the announcers made a big deal out of Peyton getting his 200th victory and, in the process, moving beyond a tie with Brett Favre. Out of curiosity, I looked up Tom Brady's # of wins. He's at 194 now so I think it is safe to say he will move into first place next year. Is there a QB playing today who will break into first place at some point in the future?

Brady will blow by Payton next season and will most likely put the win total out of reach.  He could easily finish with a total north of 220 wins if he continues playing at this high level for a few more years.

There is no current active player who has any chance of passing Brady.  Next closest is Drew Brees with 130 wins. 

It is going to be incredibly hard for anybody to get to 200+ wins in their career. 

The combination of staying healthy, being on a winning team (you will need 10+ wins a season), and playing for along time is really tough to achieve.

George
 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 8 Feb 2016, 02:34 pm
Yep. Brady is the best.  Probably the best ever, and no one will come near him for years to come. 
On another note, Cowboy fans everywhere are happy to see Demarcus Ware get his ring.  He is a great player, a fine man, and a contributor to his community where ever he goes. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rollo on 8 Feb 2016, 03:12 pm
  Brady is a great QB however they cheat. He is tarnished.


charles
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: zybar on 8 Feb 2016, 03:32 pm
  Brady is a great QB however they cheat. He is tarnished.


charles

I am not a Patriots fan (even though I live in New England) - but let's not get into the Patriots are cheaters discussion in this thread.

George
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 8 Feb 2016, 06:45 pm
http://www.theonion.com/article/super-bowl-halftime-show-marred-functioning-sound--52312?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default (http://www.theonion.com/article/super-bowl-halftime-show-marred-functioning-sound--52312?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 8 Feb 2016, 08:40 pm
For my part, I am very glad the Broncos didn't back into a win or take the game as the result of some momentous bad call. They won it the old fashioned way - by outplaying the opposition.

Now we Bronco fans can sit back for another 15-20 years until we win another one. You need patience out here in the Rockies. The Broncs have been to the big game 8 times in 38 years and they are 3-5. They probably hold the record for most SB losses.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vonnie123 on 8 Feb 2016, 09:05 pm
Good game.

The ads SUCKED!!!  Puppy/Monkee/Baby???  Constipation???  Upset bowels in a stadium seat???  Meds???  Even the A-B ads were uninspiring.    :duh:

Halftime was two shows, not one.  Each for a demographic.  The Coldplay show looked like it was produced in Korea, one from South (K-Pop) and one from the North, all rigid posturing.    :slap:

Agree 100 percent.  The ads were pretty bad.  Halftime show was lousy too. 
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 9 Feb 2016, 01:31 am
http://www.theonion.com/article/super-bowl-halftime-show-marred-functioning-sound--52312?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default (http://www.theonion.com/article/super-bowl-halftime-show-marred-functioning-sound--52312?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=LinkPreview:1:Default)

 :lol:  That's perfect!!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JakeJ on 9 Feb 2016, 01:47 am
+1.  Good on ya, T-Brick.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: RPM123 on 9 Feb 2016, 02:11 am
I like Coldplay also, but they were a poor choice for a halftime act.

This was one of the worst halftime shows in quite some time.

George

Sure was, but Lady Gaga really nailed the National anthem!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: stlrman on 9 Feb 2016, 02:27 am
Agree GaGa killed it !
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Letitroll98 on 9 Feb 2016, 02:29 am
He acted like a soiled brat at the press conference. No class at all. One can be dejected abut losing, but still be professional and handle the moment with class. Also, I wonder what his teammates are thinking when the watch him back away from the fumble.

I'm really not a fan of Cam, and I did have the same reaction initially, but upon reflection, he's still a kid, but I understand your position, perfectly reasonable view on his actions at the press conference.  I did hear today that he was right next to the Bronco's interview stage and he, as well as everyone else, could hear the Bronco players being asked about him.  I didn't hear it, but I wasn't listening all that close.  Perhaps that had a bit to do with his petulance.  In either case he sure needs some growing up to do.

I thought about his dodging the pile being something he's coached to do, but the situation is so instinctual that I think one just reacts.  It would be interesting if someone asks Cam or one of the coaches if he's instructed to stay away from pile ups.  I would think that someone has his back if that's the case and we'd hear about it.  Otherwise he comes up pretty small when facing the most crucial moment of the game.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: JerryM on 9 Feb 2016, 03:11 am
Cam's persona is gone forever. The fumble-stumble is just icing.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: macrojack on 9 Feb 2016, 01:20 pm
Cam's persona is gone forever. The fumble-stumble is just icing.

Are you saying that mythology has been obliterated by reality live on a world stage? I hope so ---- we need a lot more of that.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: rockadanny on 9 Feb 2016, 01:35 pm
I've read some comments about people trying to make excuses for Cam's decision to not fall on the fumble: because he was coached not to? Hogwash!  :roll:  I doubt he is following the coaches' advice to stretch out and fly over people like Superman to score a touchdown. I think it is in every serious athlete's DNA to do whatever it takes to win, and Cam is a serious athlete and often does whatever it takes to win. IMO, by that part of the game he was just flat worn out. When you are worn out physically it can affect your judgment. I think he just mentally checked out there for a moment and did not do what he would normally have done. In other words, he made a mistake. And everyone makes them, even the greatest of athletes. Just bad timing for him. (p.s. I am no fan of his at all, but I highly respect his talent and drive to win.)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 9 Feb 2016, 02:26 pm
+1!   :thumb:  There is too damned much analysis and minutia in sports media right now.  They were quoting stats from way the hell back, stats that did nothing but fill up air time.   We are buried in information but fail to gain knowledge.   I'm surprised they didn't run sentimental stories of the two QBs growing up.  Hell, maybe they did but I didn't turn the TV on until the coin toss.     :duh:
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: S Clark on 9 Feb 2016, 02:42 pm
Yep, Cam looked small in the moment, but not as small as Eli.  Sure looked like he was pissed because his older brother had just clinched another championship.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: londonbarn on 9 Feb 2016, 03:02 pm
Well, I have to say I agree 100% with ALL the posts.... And remember, ol' Cam likes fun, and the press conference aint no fun...  People should stop calling him a kid.. He is 26....mature enough for a classy press conference...  Makes me even more proud of my hawks Russell Wilson.. TOTAL CLASS....

The half time show super sucked, SICK of  Beyonce etc...and the ads????  the worst I have ever seen...BRING BACK Bud Light's REAL MEN OF GENIUS!!!  haha loved those....

When Cam was going for the ball, a Denver guy was already on the fly diving for it, so I think he wanted to avoid a helmet crashing collision...

I think Cam will reinvent himself next year and just be focused to win a SB and play with humility... It would be the BEST thing for him to do to repair all the nonsense that he created for himself this year...
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: charmerci on 9 Feb 2016, 03:08 pm
I couldn't watch the game but in the highlights, it's pretty clear that Cam was folding under the pressure. A number of bad and just inaccurate passes - even on the fumble-td, there was a player right in front of him wide open.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: londonbarn on 9 Feb 2016, 03:09 pm
All in all, GREAT GREAT game!!! again , GREAT defense is damn near impossible to beat...and because of all the hype and exposure regarding Carolina's offense all season, and all the ups and downs that Denver endured yet still continued to win with 2 QBs no less.. It was EXCEPTIONAL to see Denver prevail with that GREAT defensive performance.... Another SB for the ages....
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: londonbarn on 9 Feb 2016, 03:15 pm
What amazed me was on an aerial veiw, when Cam started the play was just how ultra quick the Denver defensive line immediately "horseshoed" around him giving him no time to throw.. He HAD to feel the pressure AND really for the first time all season.. I think he was shocked at how his line kept breaking down.... Stuff he hasnt seen all season... That Denver line has to be just plain awesome... Because Carolina's offensive line was NO slouch all year!!
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: Emil on 9 Feb 2016, 03:41 pm

Sure, Cam is a bit of a showboat and his behaviour after the game was childish but I'll give him a pass on all of that with he way he would light up a kids face by personally giving him/her the ball after a TD.

So he's not a total ass :lol:

(http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/wtvd/images/cms/1123566_630x354.jpg)
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vinyl_lady on 9 Feb 2016, 04:22 pm
Emil,

I agree re the kids. He could use a little more humility and maturity in his life. I don't think he has ever been hit so hard so many times in all of his football career. Plus, he had to feel a ton of pressure even when they didn't hit him.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: twitch54 on 9 Feb 2016, 05:01 pm
What amazed me was on an aerial veiw, when Cam started the play was just how ultra quick the Denver defensive line immediately "horseshoed" around him giving him no time to throw.. He HAD to feel the pressure AND really for the first time all season.. I think he was shocked at how his line kept breaking down.... Stuff he hasnt seen all season... That Denver line has to be just plain awesome... Because Carolina's offensive line was NO slouch all year!!

yeah and what cracks me up is EVERYBODY knew there would be pressure ………………… the amount of grass stain on Brady's uniform two weeks ago telegraphed everything you needed to know !
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: mcgsxr on 9 Feb 2016, 05:14 pm
It was a good game.  I enjoyed it a lot.

Agree that there were some interesting twists - Denver's D contributing in this game as the Panther's had in every other was the difference maker I think.

There were some bad calls made against the Panthers in my mind, but nothing more than can happen with the human element involved.

As for Newton not diving into the pile for the ball - many replays showed what looked like a Panther lineman landing on the ball, and Newton would no doubt be reamed by the offensive coach for busting a finger trying to recover a fumble in that pile.  No win situation I figure.

Glad to see how important defense really is!  My brother is a coach, and reinforces this all the time.
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: vinyl_lady on 9 Feb 2016, 05:57 pm
The only questionable call against the Panthers I can remember was the failure to overturn the incompletion call very early in the game. I think most viewers thought the receiver had and maintained control, but the replay booth obviously thought there wasn't indisputable evidence to overturn the call on the field. I think if the call on the field had been a catch, it would have stood. Overall, it seems the refs got high marks, http://www.footballzebras.com/2016/02/08/5-officiating-observations-from-super-bowl-50/
Title: Re: NFL Football ('15 -'16)
Post by: thunderbrick on 9 Feb 2016, 06:03 pm
True, but he threw away a lot of passes.  Surprised there wasn't intentional grounding called at least one.
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Post by: macrojack on 9 Feb 2016, 08:11 pm
True, but he threw away a lot of passes.  Surprised there wasn't intentional grounding called at least one.

I agree, Bob. There must have been at least 4 passes that Newton threw away while in the grasp. I recall the commentator remarking about his arm strength when he somehow threw the ball over the line of scrimmage and out of bounds when he was horizontal in mid air with a big Bronco riding him down to earth.
Against the Seahawks, the Panthers shot their wad in the first half. They were stopped cold in the second stanza and damn near gave the game away. When things aren't going their way, they seem to tighten up and lose that joyful fluid thang that carried them past nearly everyone they faced. Finding themselves behind 10-0 early with an increasingly stymied offense seemed to throw their entire team metabolism into an apoplectic seizure. The defense held together but Cam could not. When his composure went out the window, so did Carolina's chances. I loved it.
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Post by: Rob Babcock on 9 Feb 2016, 08:58 pm
How many of you remember that when Manning lost to the 'Aints in the Super Bowl Manning wouldn't even shake Brees's hand?  The media said it was understandable due to his fierce desire to win (as if that makes sportsmanship irrelevant).  Cam came over and graciously congratulated Manning but I guess his press conference wasn't obsequious enough for some.  So tell me, why it is "fierce" when Manning does it and "thuggish" when Newton does it?  It could be simple boot licking on the part of the media. After all Manning was a media superstar before he even threw the first pass owing to being born into football royalty.  When he allegedly sexually harassed a respected female trainer the apologists were out to cover it up instantly, and even after he violated an NDA to smear her he still had plenty of defenders.  When the HGH accusations came up they were rejected out of hand because of who he is.  Of course, it could be that what we dismiss as "boys being boys" with white athletes is something to fear when it's done by black athletes.
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Post by: macrojack on 9 Feb 2016, 09:00 pm
How many of you remember that when Manning lost to the 'Aints in the Super Bowl Manning wouldn't even shake Brees's hand?  The media said it was understandable due to his fierce desire to win (as if that makes sportsmanship irrelevant).  Cam came over and graciously congratulated Manning but I guess his press conference wasn't obsequious enough for some.  So tell me, why it is "fierce" when Manning does it and "thuggish" when Newton does it?  It could be simple boot licking on the part of the media. After all Manning was a media superstar before he even threw the first pass owing to being born into football royalty.  When he allegedly sexually harassed a respected female trainer the apologists were out to cover it up instantly, and even after he violated an NDA to smear her he still had plenty of defenders.  When the HGH accusations came up they were rejected out of hand because of who he is.  Of course, it could be that what we dismiss as "boys being boys" with white athletes is something to fear when it's done by black athletes.
Convincing arguments, Rob.
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Post by: londonbarn on 10 Feb 2016, 09:34 am
I know, I have been out of the country for 7 years and just came back this year, and so I dont know the new rules regarding intentional grounding.. I think there has to be an eligable receiver in the vicinity or something like that?. Makes sense to me, HOWEVER, it seems like they are pretty DAMN lax on that rule... I have seen MANY balls thrown away to avoid a sack that were questionable at best... Years ago, ALL of those would have been IG for sure....
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Post by: londonbarn on 10 Feb 2016, 09:35 am
Haha, as much as I LOVE LOVE audio and love talking about it, I have been having more fun on this thread I think... haha
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Post by: Letitroll98 on 10 Feb 2016, 01:00 pm
I know, I have been out of the country for 7 years and just came back this year, and so I dont know the new rules regarding intentional grounding.. I think there has to be an eligable receiver in the vicinity or something like that?. Makes sense to me, HOWEVER, it seems like they are pretty DAMN lax on that rule... I have seen MANY balls thrown away to avoid a sack that were questionable at best... Years ago, ALL of those would have been IG for sure....

All you have to do is be out of the tackle box, i. e. outside of where the tackles line up, and throw it past the line of scrimmage to avoid an intentional grounding call.  Cam got away with one that was questionable, all the others were legit.

Did you see Cam's latest "cleaning out his locker" press conference?  Totally unrepentant about both the Super Bowl press conference and the fumble dodge.  I've changed my mind again, what a punk.
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Post by: londonbarn on 10 Feb 2016, 07:15 pm
Ok thank you.... So apparently the IG rule has changed over the years.. Many years back almost ALL of those throwaways would have been IG... Maybe I am old school but, if the defensive line has done a great job and are about to sack, they should be able to.... But color me OLD... haha
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Post by: londonbarn on 10 Feb 2016, 07:17 pm
And yes, I agree.. Hey Cam.. Hell yeah its fun when EVERYTHING is going your way bro!!!! But, when it doesnt???? This is where your true character lives....
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Post by: londonbarn on 11 Feb 2016, 02:46 am
Hilarious video..     Viral video: Andy Griffith gives Cam Newton advice
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Post by: londonbarn on 13 Feb 2016, 07:43 pm
Cam's Son is called Chosen???  My Lord, he is setting that kid up for an elementary and junior high school "bitch" slapping I tell ya...... Ir would be hilarious if he turned out to be a gay bookworm.. hahaha Cam would love that  :D

I said that to a guy I knew who named his sone Maverick.. I'm bad , I know......

Disclaimer.... There is nothing wrong with gay bookworms.. No need to opine about that...
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Post by: macrojack on 11 Mar 2016, 07:33 pm
They're dancing in Boston and all over Pittsburgh, Pa. Rocking in K.C., Sandy Eggo and Oakland. A lot of people are pleased to see Denver pick up the Sanchize today. Ole Butt Fumble is now Denver's best QB. What do you make of that?
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Post by: Letitroll98 on 11 Mar 2016, 08:17 pm
Yeah, the Iggles were happy to get rid of the Sanchise now that they have Chase Daniel.  Any port in a storm for dumping that load, thus Denver is as good as any place that has a conditional 7th round pic.
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Post by: vinyl_lady on 11 Mar 2016, 08:24 pm
Yeah, the Iggles were happy to get rid of the Sanchise now that they have Chase Daniel.  Any port in a storm for dumping that load, thus Denver is as good as any place that has a conditional 7th round pic.

Chase Daniel might very well beat out Bradford.
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Post by: jimdgoulding on 24 Aug 2016, 02:01 am
Anybody see the Cowboys against the Dolphins tonite- 8/23?  Talk about PRECISION . . damn!  Oh my, do they look like the proverbial well oiled machine or what.  See ya in the playoffs, you betcha.  Well, so long as injuries don't do em in.
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Post by: JerryM on 24 Aug 2016, 03:05 am
Anybody see the Cowboys against the Dolphins tonite- 8/23?  Talk about PRECISION . . damn!  Oh my, do they look like the proverbial well oiled machine or what.  See ya in the playoffs, you betcha.  Well, so long as injuries don't do em in.

The game was actually played on Friday night, the 19th.  :thumb:

Cool you got to see the game, though.

It's preseason, Jim...  :|
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Post by: etcarroll on 24 Aug 2016, 03:10 am
Nothing in pre-season counts or has meaning. And Cowboys will fold once Romo gets his annual injury.
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Post by: JerryM on 24 Aug 2016, 03:20 am
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Post by: S Clark on 24 Aug 2016, 03:28 am
This gets so old.
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Post by: Letitroll98 on 24 Aug 2016, 12:03 pm
Apparently not.  At least you don't have to put up with snowballing Santa, that's been going on for 30 years.  And there are serious concerns about Romo's body holding up this year.  Even if the choking has faded away Tony is still a question mark until they go to the big dance and win.
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Post by: thunderbrick on 24 Aug 2016, 12:33 pm
Even if the choking has faded away Tony is still a question mark until they go to the big dance and win.

No worries there.
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Post by: vinyl_lady on 24 Aug 2016, 01:23 pm
I'm no cowboy fan by any stretch of the imagination, but after watching Dak Prescott in the SEC I believe he is the real deal. Could be the next Cam Newton.

Tony was my fantasy QB one year and he takes you on a roller coaster ride.