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Title: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Gopher on 19 Dec 2017, 05:13 pm
I'm excited to report that I just took delivery of some custom Stiff Breeze speakers from Ryan yesterday! 

These speakers have a beautiful custom veneer and painted baffle and a ton of upgrades inside including jupter caps, dueland resistors, jensen wax impregnated inductors, western electric 16ga wiring and an isolated cross-over built into custom stands rather than in the cabinets. 


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=173065)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=173066)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=173067)

First impressions are extremely positive.  It throws a very wide stage, has great tonality and resolution and is super engaging.  I'm honestly not sure how this speaker never got more popular.   

As many of you know, Ryan isn't currently taking on new speaker projects until he's through with his existing queue, but this is a reminder that he's still out there working and making absolutely beautiful stuff. 

A big thank you to Ryan and Pete for soldiering through this with so much on your existing plates.   I'm a happy camper.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: won ton on on 19 Dec 2017, 05:22 pm
Great looking speakers.is that an raal tweeter.What kind of binding post's are they, also what is the connector.A close up pic would be nice to see.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: restrav on 19 Dec 2017, 05:26 pm
wow thats a beauty. what is the amplification u r using with it?
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: restrav on 19 Dec 2017, 05:27 pm
what is that cable connector?
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Factorz on 19 Dec 2017, 05:35 pm
They look great! Happy to hear Ryan is still making great speakers.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: poseidonsvoice on 19 Dec 2017, 05:38 pm
what is that cable connector?

On the bottom is WBT, on the top is a locking Neutrik right angle connector. I use them in my own system and they are very nice, safe & reliable.

Best,
Anand.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Gopher on 19 Dec 2017, 05:40 pm
I'm not sure what kind of connector it is actually.  I believe it's WBT, but I'll be happy to snap a pic later. 

Yes, that is indeed a RAAL.  Pretty uncommon in a speaker at it's retail price.   

I plan on using a Musical Design amplifier (was a D-75B Platinum but I already sent it out to John Hillig for one round of upgrades a year ago and it's back with him for another) which mated extremely well with a pair of Cirrus speakers at AXPONA 2016, but while it's out I've put a backup amplifier I had on hand in place...  a Virtue Audio TWO.2 and this little T-Amp is doing an admirable job!
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 19 Dec 2017, 05:45 pm
Very nice Fred!

What's the color on that baffle?
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: EdRo on 19 Dec 2017, 06:40 pm
I had a buddy with that same color on his 74 Monte Carlo. NICE!!!
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: SlushPuppy on 19 Dec 2017, 06:40 pm
Those speakers look fantastic  :thumb:
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: brother love on 19 Dec 2017, 07:19 pm
Serious eye candy. Congrats!
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: standub on 19 Dec 2017, 07:28 pm

First impressions are extremely positive.  It throws a very wide stage, has great tonality and resolution and is super engaging.  I'm honestly not sure how this speaker never got more popular.   


I think the fact that Vapor is more known for the amazing cabs (seriously amazing work by Ryan and EdRo) that a speaker with "just" a normal cab from them kinda gets forgotten about.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: shadowlight on 19 Dec 2017, 07:40 pm
Congratulation Fred.  Nice looking speakers.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: neekomax on 19 Dec 2017, 07:43 pm
Very very nice! Happy to see you continuing the audio odyssey in style.  :)
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Gopher on 19 Dec 2017, 07:47 pm
Tom,

I'm honestly not sure on the baffle color.  Under some light it looks silver, under some it looks more champagne.  Ryan has good taste and has been an overnight guest at my home, so I told him (having spent time in my living room) to surprise me on the finish.  I honestly expected him to paint the cabs, but he went above and beyond with a fantastic veneer.

Standub,

You're probably right about that.  I myself ignored them in their product line until I actually talked to Pete about them.   He filled me in on how the SB was one of their first efforts and that it was a big inspiration for the Nimbus.  I understand the Stiff Breeze is also a inspiration behind a new endeavor they are licensing.   :thumb:

Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: toddc2 on 19 Dec 2017, 08:32 pm
Congrats Fred, they look amazing!
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: bajaed on 19 Dec 2017, 08:44 pm
Wow, really gorgeous! I know they sound amazing. Fill us in on the veneer, looks familiar.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapor
Post by: LesterSleepsIn on 19 Dec 2017, 09:27 pm
Wow! Stunning speakers And really great news that Ryan, Vapor et al are moving forward and continuing to produce gorgeous Vapor product. I too think that the Stiff Breeze was probably overshadowed by some of the larger speakers in the Vapor line which seemed to have come out all at once, a shame really because the Stiff Breeze are such seriously good speakers.
I have a pair of Stiff Breeze - as well as Tuonares - and still contnue to enjoy them. Again, very happy to hear that Ryan is working away. My best holiday wishes to all the Vapor family members.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: roscoeiii on 19 Dec 2017, 09:49 pm
Great stuff Fred. How do they compare to your Auroras?
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: mresseguie on 19 Dec 2017, 11:25 pm
Congratulations, Fred.

That veneer is incredible. Which wood is it?

Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: findog3103 on 19 Dec 2017, 11:45 pm
Awesome Fred. Want to swap?  :)
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: JerryM on 20 Dec 2017, 01:25 am
I'm excited to report that I just took delivery of some custom Stiff Breeze speakers from Ryan yesterday! 

These speakers have a beautiful custom veneer and painted baffle and a ton of upgrades inside including jupter caps, dueland resistors, jensen wax impregnated inductors, western electric 16ga wiring and an isolated cross-over built into custom stands rather than in the cabinets. 


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=173065)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=173066)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=173067)

First impressions are extremely positive.  It throws a very wide stage, has great tonality and resolution and is super engaging.  I'm honestly not sure how this speaker never got more popular.   

As many of you know, Ryan isn't currently taking on new speaker projects until he's through with his existing queue, but this is a reminder that he's still out there working and making absolutely beautiful stuff. 

A big thank you to Ryan and Pete for soldiering through this with so much on your existing plates.   I'm a happy camper.

I only quoted your post so the pictures would be on page 2, also. :thumb:    It's always nice to see Ryan's work.

Beautiful speakers, Fred. Congrats!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: dpatters on 20 Dec 2017, 10:49 am
Awesome!  They look fantastic.  Congratulations and enjoy.  I know I love mine.

Don P.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Gopher on 20 Dec 2017, 03:28 pm
Ryan said the veneer is is marbled Chen Chen:  soft and flaky that smells like parmesan cheese and toejam.   :lol:

That's a tough question, Roscoe as I never had the Ubers in my large living room (about 20x30) or with the same electronics.  I was always intimidated by the very expensive custom drivers and also having beryllium tweeters around small children (not just my own, we entertain a lot). 

With that caveat in mind, the Ubers reached deeper and slammed significantly harder.  The Ubers also threw a big stage (in the smaller 11x16.6 room) and probably had a wider sweet spot due to the extreme toe and wave guide. 

I think I might slightly prefer the RAALs to the T-Labs BE tweeter.

Both speakers are wonderful destination products and clearly Vapor in voicing.  Both look awesome in their own rights as well. 



Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: DaveC113 on 20 Dec 2017, 03:37 pm
Very Nice!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: findog3103 on 20 Dec 2017, 11:37 pm

That's a tough question, Roscoe as I never had the Ubers in my large living room (about 20x30) or with the same electronics.  I was always intimidated by the very expensive custom drivers and also having beryllium tweeters around small children (not just my own, we entertain a lot). 

With that caveat in mind, the Ubers reached deeper and slammed significantly harder.  The Ubers also threw a big stage (in the smaller 11x16.6 room) and probably had a wider sweet spot due to the extreme toe and wave guide. 

I think I might slightly prefer the RAALs to the T-Labs BE tweeter.

Both speakers are wonderful destination products and clearly Vapor in voicing.  Both look awesome in their own rights as well.

I second that. The Vapors are amazing speakers. I have a smallish room (14x11) and guests marvel at the sound stage and musicality.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Gopher on 23 Dec 2017, 01:43 am
I'm really digging these speakers.  They have exceeded my expectations and are keeping me up way too late at night.   

I've got a couple of Gallo subwoofers I'd planned to mate with these things, but thus far I'm really not motivated as things are sounding so good. 

Any other stiff breeze owners here?
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: findog3103 on 23 Dec 2017, 03:09 am
I'm really digging these speakers.  They have exceeded my expectations and are keeping me up way too late at night.   

I've got a couple of Gallo subwoofers I'd planned to mate with these things, but thus far I'm really not motivated as things are sounding so good. 

Any other stiff breeze owners here?

I bet they look even more amazing in person. Love to hear your thoughts about why you are thinking of adding subs?
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Gopher on 24 Dec 2017, 06:28 pm
Jason,

While they don't have quite the slam of the Uber Auroras, the bass they produce on their own is satisfying.   That said, I've had two Gallo subwoofers I purchased 2 years ago and never even used, which I'm curious to try...   Why not, I've got them?

They are supposed to be in my engineered room, but it seems something always goes wrong to stunt that systems progress.

I'd be happy to have you out in the New Year when you've got some time. Should have em dialed in nicely by then.

Fred



Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: fex02 on 24 Dec 2017, 09:40 pm
Fred, welcome to the Vapor family.I am sure you will love them.
It was nice to meet you in sarasota this year.Best of luck with them.
ps did your boss get his Joule's yet?
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Gopher on 24 Dec 2017, 11:13 pm
Thanks, though technically it's not my first vapor.  May not be the last either as a home theater may be in my not so distant future.

It was awesome meeting you as well and I'm glad your Joules bring you tons of joy...  All your missing now it's a Lampi ;)  I completely believe they are better speakers than the magicos.  Certainly more up my alley.

Wasn't aware I had a boss, but I'm pretty sure you mean Rob, lol.  He should be on Deck or double deck after my pair. 
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: fex02 on 25 Dec 2017, 11:25 am
Fred sorry about the boss comment !
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 25 Dec 2017, 04:32 pm
Looking good!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Gopher on 26 Dec 2017, 08:07 pm
Looking good!  :thumb:

Indeed they are.

Thanks again, Bob for helping Ryan get these bad boys loaded into the freight truck!
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Bob in St. Louis on 26 Dec 2017, 08:43 pm
Indeed they are.

Thanks again, Bob for helping Ryan get these bad boys loaded into the freight truck!
You're very welcome, it wasn't a big deal.
You didn't buy the biggest heaviest mamba jamba speaker Ryan makes, which it why it wasn't a big deal.  :lol:
So Thank YOU for that.  :wink:
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: findog3103 on 28 Dec 2017, 03:07 am
If you have the subs, most definitely, why not. Interested to hear about your experiment with the Gallos if and when you set them up. Love to come up and check out the system. Let me know.

Jason,

While they don't have quite the slam of the Uber Auroras, the bass they produce on their own is satisfying.   That said, I've had two Gallo subwoofers I purchased 2 years ago and never even used, which I'm curious to try...   Why not, I've got them?

They are supposed to be in my engineered room, but it seems something always goes wrong to stunt that systems progress.

I'd be happy to have you out in the New Year when you've got some time. Should have em dialed in nicely by then.

Fred
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: LesterSleepsIn on 28 Dec 2017, 02:35 pm
I have the Stiff Breeze, still love them. I also have a pair of Gallo subs that I bought to use with other speakers but which would occassionaly be paired with the Breeze in the larger listening room just for grins and they played very well together. I lost the larger listening space to other family needs so the Gallos are boxed but the Breeze play wonderfully without them.
Cheers,
Lester
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Gopher on 28 Dec 2017, 04:10 pm
Awesome, Lester!

I put them in play briefly but am inexperienced at integrating subs and didn't really want to add fuss to the deep enjoyment I've been experiencing, so I put them back off to the side for now.  I'll revisit it in the future--probably when I've got a buddy over to help out.

Do you have any setup tips to share?

Fred
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: mav52 on 28 Dec 2017, 04:20 pm
Still enjoying my Stiff Breeze in a small listening room. They replaced my Kef LS50 and my Harbeth p3esr.   I always wanted to hear the Aurora's.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: findog3103 on 28 Dec 2017, 05:18 pm
Still enjoying my Stiff Breeze in a small listening room. They replaced my Kef LS50 and my Harbeth p3esr.   I always wanted to hear the Aurora's.

If ever in Philly, drop me a line. Be glad to show the Auroras off.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: Factorz on 28 Dec 2017, 06:06 pm
Per Ryan's recommendation I had added a pair of SVS subs to my Cirrus Blacks with great results. Honestly I was super happy before the subs, but didn't think adding hurt.
Title: Re: Took delivery of some brand new Vapors
Post by: bajaed on 28 Dec 2017, 06:55 pm
I heard the Auroras a few years ago and was blown away. Amazing speakers!