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It's impossible to talk about Covid if people don't put their politics to the side. My family got covid, my grandmother died from it. Those are the facts. Also, it seems like you are assuming that because I'm pro-vax that I'm a Dem, but in fact I am not. So how can my assertions be political in nature? Here's what I know. A deadly, contagious disease does not care about which political views you have. It will infect and kill you regardless. That's just nature, nature is brutal and unforgiving. Luckily, through some seriously impressive science, we have a shield against this killer. Taking it is not a political act. It's an act of self preservation and an act to protect your fellow man. So leave the politics out of it and try to think of it rationally, from outside the existing political narratives. If you do, I think you'll see that getting vax'd and reducing your chance of getting Covid by 10x is not political, it's absolutely and entirely practical.
From asking around I'm told the dealers are dropping like flies.Direct sales, word of mouth and online reviews looks to be the wave of the future.I think the shows will make a rebound, though.
And, you assume people like me are anti-vax, but I am not anti-vax. I am anti this shot they are pushing on us. For a good reason. But, it doesn't matter. You are focused on the tree, but not the whole forest.But ultimately, this is all about government taking away our God-given rights. Rights to live our lives the way we want to. Should I be forced to do something against my will in order to fit in? That's what you people are saying. Get this vax, or be cast out. Discriminated against. People are being fired over this. It's not just some dumb event we are not allowed to attend. As I said: heroes one year, garbage the next.But, answer this: if you are vaccinated, what are people afraid of enjoying life? It is one thing to not go because you don't care about CAF anymore, and not not go because you are scared of getting sick over something you are supposedly protected against. You just said it as a shield. At what point would tell those in charge that I got the shot, what more do you want from me? Screw your boosters. Screw your masks.
Man, not only did you not leave your politics out of it, now you've brought religion in, too. This is the wrong direction my friend. So, re: your initial statement about not being anti-vaxx in general but only against this particular vax, let me ask a clarifying question so I can understand better what you mean. Are you saying the covid vax does not work? Or something else? You seem to have some problems with the vaccine itself, so let's explore that. What exactly is the issue with the covid vax, do you feel?And re: your other questions, in fact I am not afraid of getting Covid anymore, because as I already stated, I have already had it. My whole family had it. And we all got vax'd too. So, pretty well protected. And it seems that the Moderna vax we got is also fairly protective against the Delta variant. Mostly I wear a mask because there's a small (but real) chance that I might inadvertently spread the disease to someone else. Which is ONLY a concern now because not everyone is vaxxed. If we'd already had 90% vax rates, then things could go back to normal. But we haven't, so things can't. That's on you, and people like you. As far as your rights, I agree with you. You should be able to do whatever the hell you want. As long as your choices don't harm other people. But if your actions cause direct harm to others, then that's a problem. For example, you can drink all the alcohol you want. And you can drive your car all you want. Those things are fine. But if you drink a lot and then drive, that's putting others in harms way. And if you kill someone with your choices, then you are brought up on manslaughter charges. Practically I feel like if you do not get the vaccine and you infect someone else and they die from it, then you should be brought up on manslaughter charges. Harsh, true. But it's the only way I can see that might actually stop this legion of typhoid Marys we've developed in this country.
God-given doesn't mean religion. We all have God-given rights, irregardless of you our beliefs. You can be atheist but want to live your life as you please. Religion is another discussion. Not applicable here.The intent has to be proven: was my intent to go to CAF and get someone sick? You also have to prove that it came from me and not from those other attendees, vendors, and staff.Do this: look up online and find me the video about the lab who tested the vaccine, and the strange organism in it. Find me the picture of bag of red blood, and the bag of brown blood. Answer why certain people are not required to have this vaccine. Answer why certain people are using something different that the rest of us.If you don't find it, that will tell you something. If do find it, that will tell you something. other than that, people are just insulting others for not being sheep.
God-given doesn't mean religion. We all have God-given rights, irregardless of you our beliefs.
If God gave you a right, then no man can take it away. You also don't understand your rights as a citizen -- it doesn't mean you can say or do what you want, especially if it harms others. Bottom line --- you're wrong about your rights. Your beliefs and opinions have no basis in law. Show me where in the Constitution (assuming you're American) it says you have the right to not get vaccinated or tested during a pandemic. I'll wait...
Show me where it specifically say you have to get vaccinated or tested if 51% of the people say so.
Sure, no problem. You can start here for a general overview: https://www.cdc.gov/phlp/publications/topic/vaccinationlaws.html or here: https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/vaccine-mandates#1And here's an article that speaks about legal precedents requiring vaccination: https://www.npr.org/2021/08/12/1027132680/can-the-government-make-me-get-the-covid-vaccineThere are at least a million other articles if you take 5 seconds to google them. See what I doing -- I'm providing facts. Unfortunately, COVID doesn't have ears to hear the wailing of the opinionated unvaccinated.
Show me where in the Constitution (assuming you're American) it says you have the right to not get vaccinated or tested during a pandemic.
No. You said Constitution. I don't care about anything else. Our discussion is about the Constitution.
I was hoping for an explanation from you about your last post and your specific problems with the Covid vaccine. But fine, ignore it.And as others have pointed out (and I have too), you are free to do anything you want as long as it's not harming others. That's baked into our constitution at a very fundamental level. You'd know that if you'd read it (I have, more than once). So as best I can tell you either:a) Don't think that this is true (that your rights end when they result in harm to others)orb) You don't think staying un-vaxxed puts others in harm's waySo which is it? Or is it both?
... I can tell you that emergency rooms are not being over-run with Covid patients...
No talk of natural immunity? Enjoy your shots and boosters...