Still Trying to Buy a Classic, this time on Audiogon

mick wolfe · « **Reply #20 on:** 20 Dec 2012, 01:21 am »

Quote from: williamsims on 20 Dec 2012, 12:58 am

Hi, Mick, thanks. I'd buy that one in a heartbeat only the seller insists on a local pickup. As his A'gon ad expires, I'll ask him if he'll ship. -- Bill

Sorry....didn't see the "local pickup". Probably why it's still listed. We'd all love a local pick-up for a turntable or speakers for that matter.

mick wolfe · « **Reply #21 on:** 20 Dec 2012, 01:26 am »

Quote from: williamsims on 20 Dec 2012, 01:01 am

And as I mentioned earlier, another guy has a great-looking one for sale but wants to include a 14-year old Benz Reference -- total package $2K. He may decide to separate after the ad has been up for a while.
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At that price and without a discount, you'd be better off with a new Simplex.....maybe?

/mp · « **Reply #22 on:** 20 Dec 2012, 05:17 am »

The WT in the picture has a square motor and what appears to be the small record clamp. Doesn't that make it a 2nd generation WTT?

threadkiller · « **Reply #23 on:** 20 Dec 2012, 05:26 am »

No, I think it's the other way around...

/mp · « **Reply #24 on:** 21 Dec 2012, 08:45 pm »

The small clamp came out after I bought a large clamp WT.

I seem to recall reading somewhere, possibly AC, earlier square motor WTs had a c. 4" long plastic shroud on a segment of the power chord & later ones didn't. I have no idea how this temporally integrates with large/small clamp variants or WT nomenclature. Interested in learning if anyone knows this obscure minutia.

The Mayan baktun ended a few hours ago & the world still exists. Congratulations or condolences as applicable.

threadkiller · « **Reply #25 on:** 21 Dec 2012, 08:53 pm »

Yes, you're right about the apparatus on the power cord on earlier models.
I can't remember the clamps. I hate clamps so that's a non issue.

williamsims · « **Reply #26 on:** 21 Dec 2012, 09:33 pm »

So Threadkiller, you use no clamp at all on your WTT?

threadkiller · « **Reply #27 on:** 21 Dec 2012, 09:48 pm »

I have an Amadeus now... I should have stated that, sorry.
Naturally I used a clamp with the other tables.. Yet you know, in looking back, sometimes the laziness in me kept me from playing lps, due to the extra mess with using a clamp. I play tons more records now with the clamp less Amadeus, and obviously it does sound so much better. It's the loveliest table I've used so far- in terms of ease and sound quality.

If the Mayans had stayed around maybe they would have built an Amadeus.

williamsims · « **Reply #28 on:** 21 Dec 2012, 10:43 pm »

Thanks very much for clarifying. With the Amadeus out of reach, I'm determined to find a NOS WTT. Which clamp do you recommend?

threadkiller · « **Reply #29 on:** 21 Dec 2012, 11:01 pm »

I had both the classic and Reference, with their associated clamps. Lil for classic, reference for big table.

SteveFord · « **Reply #30 on:** 21 Dec 2012, 11:04 pm »

The clamps aren't interchangeable, by the way.

williamsims · « **Reply #31 on:** 22 Dec 2012, 02:58 am »

Thanks, guys -- good to know.

threadkiller · « **Reply #32 on:** 22 Dec 2012, 03:05 pm »

There is an Amadeus for sale on Audiogon - make an offer.
I know the owner, he's having hard financial times. The table is in great shape.

williamsims · « **Reply #33 on:** 23 Dec 2012, 03:49 am »

Thanks very much for the info. Unfortunately my budget is $1K. And having had my own financial issues I'm loath to take advantage of someone in similar straits. But I appreciate your pointing it out.

threadkiller · « **Reply #34 on:** 23 Dec 2012, 04:13 am »

Sure. I think they would take $2k. It's a consignment guy selling it, so the damage to my friend is already done. You are very kind in saying that, however.

williamsims · « **Reply #35 on:** 23 Dec 2012, 04:30 am »

Threadkiller, there's now a WTT on eBay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Well-Tempered-Turntable-/271126274718?pt=Vintage_Electronics_R2&hash=item3f2062a29e

The tonearm's a mess but the table looks nice. If I were able to buy the table separately, what are the odds of (eventually) finding a (reasonably) pristine WT tonearm? Thanks -- Bill

threadkiller · « **Reply #36 on:** 23 Dec 2012, 04:43 am »

I like the table. Much better than earlier listings. Don't know if Mike Pranka could get the arm going for you or not. He did have at one time some new original arms, but these may be long gone. Dicey with the arm, maybe the seller just had no experience with using it, or was afraid of it. It's an early version table, yet the motor works so should be fine.

williamsims · « **Reply #37 on:** 23 Dec 2012, 04:46 am »

Thanks as always for your thoughtful counsel

williamsims · « **Reply #38 on:** 24 Dec 2012, 04:38 pm »

Threadkiller, Mike DOES have replacement tonearms, so I'll contact the seller. Thanks

threadkiller · « **Reply #39 on:** 24 Dec 2012, 04:52 pm »

It's a Xmas miracle!
NOW you'll have a proper table for not much money.
And something in proper working order to later trade to an Amadeus, when fortune again comes your way.
Congrats, and the best of the season to you!