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Title: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 27 Dec 2009, 03:48 pm
From time to time we have news and/or announcements that may be of benefit to individuals who do not necessarily monitor this site on a regular basis.  So, as a convenience, we decided that starting in 2010 we would publish an email Newsletter with hot news, new product announcements, audio tips and exclusive special offers available only to newsletter subscribers.

If you would like to be on our list, you can subscribe here (http://www.salksound.com/subscription-ac.htm).

Enjoy.

- Jim
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter
Post by: srb on 27 Dec 2009, 05:23 pm
Jim,
 
Had trouble trying to sign up using Vista 64 with IE8 32bit.  The error said my entered security code from the graphic was not correct.  Tried multiple times, then tried it from Firefox 3.5.6 and had no problem.
 
Thanks,
 
Steve
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter
Post by: mchuckp on 27 Dec 2009, 06:06 pm
I had no issue using Safari on my MacBook running Snow Leopard.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter
Post by: funkmonkey on 27 Dec 2009, 07:25 pm
Great idea Jim.  I'm signed up...  no troubles.   

edit: Except that I may be on there twice now...  I accidentally clicked the conformation email a second time.  :duh:

Cheers, Happy New Year
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter
Post by: oneinthepipe on 27 Dec 2009, 07:37 pm
No trouble signing up with Safari on MacBook Pro.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter
Post by: charmerci on 27 Dec 2009, 09:19 pm
Vista Home Basic and Firefox.

Done.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jd3 on 27 Dec 2009, 10:36 pm
Jim,

I also tried multiple times on my Mac G4 with Safari and Firefox..no go.  Had to use my wife's new Mac and then no problems.  Glad to see you got all your hardware/software issues resolved.

John
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: ctouhey on 27 Dec 2009, 11:46 pm
No problem with Vista 64 and IE8 32 bit.  The confirmation e-mail was redirected to the Outlook Junk E-Mail Folder, however.  I'm all signed up now!

Chris
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Post by: Caustic Casey on 5 Jan 2010, 03:12 pm
I'm in!!!
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: revrob on 11 Jan 2010, 09:55 pm
I'm in using firefox. When the 1st issue coming?
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 12 Jan 2010, 07:17 pm
When the 1st issue coming?

In about two weeks.  We'll shortly have a new model to introduce and will announce that in the first newsletter (among other things).

- Jim
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: Stylus on 12 Jan 2010, 07:43 pm
I'm in!  That first issue sounds like a good one!  :eyebrows:
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: darwin on 27 Jan 2010, 06:06 pm
Is the subscription link no longer working? I tried to subscribe, but there's no security code showing on the page so that I can copy it.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 28 Jan 2010, 07:09 pm
Is the subscription link no longer working? I tried to subscribe, but there's no security code showing on the page so that I can copy it.

darwin -

Thanks for the head's up.  I think I got it working again.

- Jim
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: darwin on 28 Jan 2010, 08:43 pm
It doesn't seem to want to work for me. The security code is showing up now, but when I type it in and submit it, I get an error message that my entry doesn't match. I've tried it a number of times to be sure I'm not mistyping anything, but keep getting the same result.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 28 Jan 2010, 10:29 pm
It doesn't seem to want to work for me. The security code is showing up now, but when I type it in and submit it, I get an error message that my entry doesn't match. I've tried it a number of times to be sure I'm not mistyping anything, but keep getting the same result.

darwin -

I just tried it again and it worked for me.  Just drop me an email at jim @ salksound.com and I can do it for you.  Also, if you can let me know what broswer you are using, etc., perhaps I can figure out what might be going wrong.


- Jim
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: darwin on 29 Jan 2010, 11:27 am
Jim, I'm using Safari on my MacBook Pro, which is likely the problem. I just tried subscribing again and got the same result. I'll send you an email.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: MichiganMike on 29 Jan 2010, 01:13 pm
I have tried unsuccessfully to subscribe more than a dozen times on both a Mac and a Microsoft based PC.  Jim, I sent you an email asking you to enter my subscription.
Thanks,
Mike 
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 29 Jan 2010, 04:22 pm
I have tried unsuccessfully to subscribe more than a dozen times on both a Mac and a Microsoft based PC.  Jim, I sent you an email asking you to enter my subscription.
Thanks,
Mike

Mike -

I took care of it.

If anyone else has problems, email me at jim @ salksound.com and I will take care of it.  For some reason, it always works for me.  So also let me know what browser and operating system you are using.  Maybe I can sort it all out.

- Jim
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: Nuance on 4 Feb 2010, 07:05 pm
I must say, I love the newsletter, Salk team!  I am reading it now - good stuff here. 
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: taoggniklat on 4 Feb 2010, 07:28 pm
I must say, I love the newsletter, Salk team!  I am reading it now - good stuff here. 

Did you get it through email? I checked my email and didn't see it.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: ctouhey on 4 Feb 2010, 07:31 pm
I enjoyed reading the articles - very interesting.  Got e-mails at the office and at home.

The Song Bird will likely be a huge success!

Chris
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 4 Feb 2010, 07:54 pm
Did you get it through email? I checked my email and didn't see it.

Only so many go out per hour.  If you do not get your copy by tomorrow, let me know and I'll email you separately.

- Jim
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: bigjppop on 4 Feb 2010, 09:53 pm
I enjoyed reading it as well; its always great to see new products!
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jd3 on 4 Feb 2010, 10:14 pm
Nice newsletter Jim!  So the SongBird is the floorstander you were telling me about.  Hmmm...now I have to see if those will fit in my room!!  I'm sure you've got another big selling speaker!

John
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: rlee8394 on 4 Feb 2010, 10:16 pm
Haven't gotten mine yet either. Is this SongBird not on the website?

Ron
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Post by: martyo on 4 Feb 2010, 10:36 pm
Very nice Jim. New products, updates, and some very informative articles.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: kip_ on 4 Feb 2010, 10:51 pm
Haven't gotten mine yet either. Is this SongBird not on the website?

Ron

haven't received mine yet either.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 4 Feb 2010, 11:58 pm
Thanks for the kind comments.

Newsletter emails are going out over a 2-day period so as not to overwhelm the servers.  So if you did not get your copy yet, please wait until tomorrow before assuming yours was lost.

If you do not get your copy tomorrow, register again at the link above and I will resend it.  Also, check to make sure your copy wasn't filtered as spam (nothing we can do about that).

As for questions about the SongBirds, they are on our web site but not linked yet.  I wanted to give newsletter recipients an advanced look at this new product.  We'll link it to the menu system on Sunday.

- Jim
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: oneinthepipe on 5 Feb 2010, 12:17 am
Jim:

Great job, as with everything.  Very interesting articles.

The SongBird looks like a great speaker.  A full range, easily-driven, floor standing, transmission-line speaker with top-notch design, components and construction and the Salk Signature Sound for 1295.00?  Wow, something for everyone and for everyone's budget.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: Art_Chicago on 5 Feb 2010, 01:28 am
nothing in my inbox. i will try agAin!
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: rlee8394 on 5 Feb 2010, 02:39 am
Jim,

Those new SongBirds look real nice. If the ER15 measures flatter than the CA15 that is used in the SongTowers, would there be any benefit in retrofitting the ST's with the ER15? Will future SongTower production now use the ER15, or possibly as an option?

The custom Bubinga looks awesome! They also look like they will play as low as the ST's since there is only 1 Hz difference on the low end frequency response. They are less efficient that the ST's, but being 8 ohms, I think they would work really well with my AVA Ultimate 70's bridged. Do you think that would be a good application for the speaker? I think you heard Franks UltraValve amps in bridged configuration at RMAF.

Thanks,
Ron
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: charmerci on 5 Feb 2010, 09:33 am
Haven't gotten mine yet either.
Ron

Check your spam folder. I found mine in my yahoo spam folder.

I marked mine as Not Spam, so I should be fine from now on.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 5 Feb 2010, 01:35 pm
Jim,

Those new SongBirds look real nice. If the ER15 measures flatter than the CA15 that is used in the SongTowers, would there be any benefit in retrofitting the ST's with the ER15? Will future SongTower production now use the ER15, or possibly as an option?

This is currently under consideration.  In terms of retrofits, that would not be advisable since the crossovers would be different and I don't think the benefits would be worth the costs involved.  The audible differences would likely not be that great.  But we may make the switch at some point and adjust the prices of the speakers accordingly.

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The custom Bubinga looks awesome! They also look like they will play as low as the ST's since there is only 1 Hz difference on the low end frequency response. They are less efficient that the ST's, but being 8 ohms, I think they would work really well with my AVA Ultimate 70's bridged. Do you think that would be a good application for the speaker? I think you heard Franks UltraValve amps in bridged configuration at RMAF.

I think the combination would be great.  The only caveat I would offer is that if you like your music  loud, the SongTowers would be a better fit.  You can only move so much air with a single 5" driver.  But at reasonable volumes, that combo would be hard to beat.

- Jim
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: mathgeek97 on 5 Feb 2010, 06:47 pm
Jim,

The newsletter looks great!  And perfect timing, too, since a friend of mine who moved to Hong Kong is looking for speakers <$2K.  So I told him about the new SongBirds.  They look like a spectacular bargain.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: charmerci on 6 Feb 2010, 09:25 am
Check your spam folder. I found mine in my yahoo spam folder.

I marked mine as Not Spam, so I should be fine from now on.

Jim re-sent it to me and it no longer goes to my spam folder.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: Nuance on 22 Mar 2010, 05:09 am
I just read the second revision of the Salk Newletter and really enjoyed the article about the passive radiator design of the SoundScape (formerly named the HT4).  The two speakers combined can reach 116dB at 20Hz without room gain!!!???  Are you kidding me?!  Find me another speaker at this price range that can do that. 
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Post by: taoggniklat on 22 Mar 2010, 07:08 pm
Thanks again, enjoyed the read.
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Post by: Woolz on 22 Mar 2010, 08:02 pm
I, too, enjoyed the article.  Thanks.  So, will the 10" Soundscape be tuned the same way with the same 12" passive radiators?  The difference from the 12" one of efficiency?  Also, does the additional surface area with the radiators add to the naturalness of the bass?
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 23 Mar 2010, 01:15 pm
I, too, enjoyed the article.  Thanks.  So, will the 10" Soundscape be tuned the same way with the same 12" passive radiators? 

They will use the same 12" passives, but they will be tuned to to an F3 of 21Hz rather than 18Hz for the 12" woofer.  This simply requires less mass added to the passives.

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The difference from the 12" one of efficiency? 

The differences are the F3 (18Hz vs. 21Hz) and efficiency.  The 10" is about 84-85db and the 12" is about 86-87db.

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Also, does the additional surface area with the radiators add to the naturalness of the bass?

The surface area simply isures that the passives will not bottom out when there is a lot of deep bass in the program material at high SPL's. Keep in mind that the 10" is only tuned about 3Hz higher, so the output of the passives will be almost the same as with the 12".

- Jim
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: Woolz on 23 Mar 2010, 05:00 pm
Thanks for the info Jim.  My question about the naturalness of the bass comes from things I have read from Legacy speakers and from Magnepan both of whom claim that  the greater the surface area of the bass reproducers the more natural the sound.  Or is it simply a matter of moving air?  The best reproduction I have ever had of an acoustic bass was some Maggie 1Ds I owned back in the early 80s. I mean if you played the LA Four direct to disc Ray Brown was in the room with you! Those speakers had two 7 sq. ft. panels for each channel just for the low end.  But if the technology allows, can one manage the same quality reproduction from a single 10 or 12" driver?
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 23 Mar 2010, 07:17 pm
Thanks for the info Jim.  My question about the naturalness of the bass comes from things I have read from Legacy speakers and from Magnepan both of whom claim that  the greater the surface area of the bass reproducers the more natural the sound.  Or is it simply a matter of moving air?  The best reproduction I have ever had of an acoustic bass was some Maggie 1Ds I owned back in the early 80s. I mean if you played the LA Four direct to disc Ray Brown was in the room with you! Those speakers had two 7 sq. ft. panels for each channel just for the low end.  But if the technology allows, can one manage the same quality reproduction from a single 10 or 12" driver?

The challenge is to move the appropriate amount of air in a manner that exhibits low distortion at the target SPL.  This can be done in two ways.

First, you can use a large surface area with more limited XMAX requirements.  Or, you can use a smaller surface area, but it will require a larger XMAX to make certain the driver is capable of the SPL required and won't bottom out.


(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=28125)


As you can see by this graph simulating the SoundScape 10" woofer module, the driver (shown in blue) starts rolling off at about 80 - 90Hz and is 3db down at about 37Hz or so.  Since the passives (shown in red) are tuned lower, their output is relatively low at that point and gradually increases as they approach their tuning frequency.  Below 30Hz, most of the output comes from the passives.  When you sum the output of the driver and the passives, you end up with flat response and an F3 around 21Hz.

If you start with a low distortion driver and do not allow it to exceed it's XMAX, you are half way there.  The passives, then, need enough area and XMAX to avoid bottoming out at the tuning and SPL capabilities desired.  If you can design a system that meets those criteria, the result should be clean bass with low distortion. 

Note that at the passive tuning frequency, the driver's excursion is at a minimum. This is not necessarily intuitive, but that is the way the system works.  So even though the system is tuned for a low F3, the driver itself never approaches its XMAX.

Keep in mind that, in this case, the lowest frequencies (those requiring the greatest amount of air movement) are handled primarily by a pair of 12" passives.  If the cone area or XMAX of the passives were greater, perhaps only one would be required.  But, in this case, two are required to reach the target SPL levels at the frequencies involved.  You end up with two 12" passives which have 25% more cone area than a single 18" passive and they have plenty of XMAX to reach the design goals.  So we're good to go.

Of course, this is an over-simplified explanation of what is happening, but hopefully you can understand it.

- Jim
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: Woolz on 24 Mar 2010, 03:06 pm
Thanks Jim.  I would love to hear a pair of Soundscapes  to hear that bass, although I do really like my Archos.  Maybe I'll get to Michigan one day.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: taoggniklat on 24 Mar 2010, 05:47 pm
I am looking forward to RMAF
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: Saturn94 on 7 Jul 2010, 12:13 am
I tried the link at the beginning of this thread but I get a "page not found" error.

Is the subscription still available?
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: fsimms on 7 Jul 2010, 12:59 pm
While you are waiting for a reply to your question you can read the two newsletters that are out now by clicking on the "Newsletter" button at the top of the main Salk website.

http://www.salksound.com/ (http://www.salksound.com/)

Bob

PS. They are "killer" articles.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 7 Jul 2010, 02:26 pm
I tried the link at the beginning of this thread but I get a "page not found" error.

Is the subscription still available?

When we uploaded the newest version of our web site, I forgot to re-create the subsciption pages.  I am working on it now and should have it up and running shortly.  I'll post again when finished.

- Jim
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 7 Jul 2010, 02:48 pm
It's ready.

- Jim
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Post by: Saturn94 on 7 Jul 2010, 02:54 pm
Thanks guys! :)
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: srb on 7 Jul 2010, 03:34 pm
Beside the link on the first page of this topic, is there a link to the newsletter subscription on the website?
 
Steve
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: jsalk on 7 Jul 2010, 03:43 pm
Beside the link on the first page of this topic, is there a link to the newsletter subscription on the website?
 
Steve

Not yet, but there will be.

- Jim
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: OgOgilby on 28 Oct 2010, 01:23 am
I got an error message the first time I tried to subscribe because I was entering spaces to match the security code shown. When I didn't use spaces it worked fine.
Title: Re: Salk Sound Newsletter subscription link
Post by: fsimms on 9 Nov 2010, 03:26 pm
Three new articles.

http://www.salksound.com/wp/ (http://www.salksound.com/wp/)

Bob