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Title: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: zybar on 12 Jan 2008, 12:47 pm
At this year's CES (2008), Emerald Physics displayed a pair of CS2's with red fabric instead of the traditional black:

(http://www.audioxsell.com/images/events/010708-ces/large/ModWright/CES08-03.jpg)


What fabric color would you like to see the CS2's available in?

If you select "other" please mention what the other color is.

There isn't yet a date on when other colors will be available, but it will be sooner rather than later.   :wink:

There will most likely be a slight upcharge for a different fabric color, but nothing has been firmly established yet.


George
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: MaxCast on 12 Jan 2008, 01:15 pm
Green and yellow with a nice G on it!  :green:
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: TomS on 12 Jan 2008, 01:24 pm
Now you're talkin'  - Colts blue with a big white horse shoe on the front!

Hardwood and/or aluminum trim strip options to dress them up would be nice too.  Should be expensive as you don't need much material.
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: jackthecat on 13 Jan 2008, 09:31 am
I would prefer a light real wood / veneer finish with no sock on .... just me . Not sure if the sock is critical ? I prefer the understated finish rather than big colour or black. Especially in smaller rooms.
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: GregC on 13 Jan 2008, 07:45 pm
Regardless of the sock color, prepare to have your socks knocked off when you hear the CS2 speakers.  :D
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: JustinY on 16 Jan 2008, 06:06 am
One thing that I would like to point out... on the fabric material rather than the color of the fabric itself. The fabric material we use are speaker fabric that are very thin and transparent in terms of it not affecting the performance of the speaker itself. Both Clayton and I have went and looked for other potential material/colors that we can use to spice up or address some of what everyone's wants (we almost tried some mirco-fiber/suede type material which would have looked awesome on the CS2, however we realized the thickness of it would have affect the sound transmission so we decided against it).
Although the search is still on-going and nothing is set in stone just quite yet. So far we have found some success in a few different colors and have been testing to make sure that the material is up to par with the performance and appearance that is expected from Clayton and the CS2s.

BTW- I probably should introduce myself... I'm Justin, I actually work for Clayton and have been for the last month and a half or so. I'm responsible for building the CS2's since Clayton has been swamped with phone calls and everything else that is involved in running a business. I'm still very new to this industry and have a lot to learn from everyone on in this forum but so far Clayton has been a great teacher to me. He has taught me a lot of things that I never knew about this market and the speakers design/manufacturing. I'm excited to learn and hope that one day I will have something to contribute to this forum.   
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: JoshK on 16 Jan 2008, 04:18 pm
Add a wood trim around the edges and it adds a nice touch of class in the Magnepan kind of way.

Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: Wind Chaser on 17 Jan 2008, 05:22 am
Why not just have an online swatch sample to pick from?  Before finalizing the order, a n actual sample could be mailed out and then people would know exactly what to expect.
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: Russell Dawkins on 17 Jan 2008, 07:59 am
Why not just have an online swatch sample to pick from?  Before finalizing the order, a n actual sample could be mailed out and then people would know exactly what to expect.


Great idea!
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: Imperial on 19 Jan 2008, 11:15 pm
There is a blue hue that is called Alpina Blue.
Looks like this: (http://www.jasminalpine.co.uk/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/alpina_ski_helmet_hawk_blue_alu.jpg)
It is very balanced.
A very good blue color, or hue of blue ...

Imperial
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: cloudbaseracer on 25 Jan 2008, 05:02 pm
I would really like to see what these look like with a thin wood veneer across the front and sides.  If there is no way to go with wood then for me I think a muted silver/grey fabric. 

Do you guys think the sound would be changed if the whole front were covered in fabric so it looked like one solid piece?

James
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: JustinY on 7 Feb 2008, 01:44 am
*Update* Today we shipped out our first set of Cream/Off White CS2 to one of our dealers. We have also decide to follow thru with a blue verison of the CS2 which is very much like the blue on the helmet a few posts previous to this. Currently we do not have any high resolution pictures to post but we will add that on to our website when the pictures become available...
In the meantime, there are 4 colors now that are now available on the CS2: Black (standard w/ silver base); RED, BLUE and Cream(which all will have black base, which is more of a texture finished compared to the standard silver base).
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: JustinY on 7 Feb 2008, 01:54 am
I would really like to see what these look like with a thin wood veneer across the front and sides.  If there is no way to go with wood then for me I think a muted silver/grey fabric. 

Do you guys think the sound would be changed if the whole front were covered in fabric so it looked like one solid piece?

James
We are currently not offering anything in the wood trim or finishes. However, we have actually made mutliple CS2's with the horn covered. This creates a uniform look like you said as a solid piece and doing this does not affect performance, it is up to the customer to decide if they want the horn exposed or not.
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: Avalon on 14 Feb 2008, 08:01 pm
Traditionalist:
follow popular furniture in various markets... 
   red wine fabric - to complement rich, dark, red-bias woods;
   cream or beige - to complement e.g. american walnut;
and for the above, consider rosenut / walnut foot-covers respectively.

modernist:
blue/red/orange/green/turquoise(etc)+black/silver feet = more a la Zu / Gallo style.

color is a **very powerful adverising agent** - and not too expensive in fabric.

Your product will r e a l l y stand out... (and for good reason!)
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: jackthecat on 15 Feb 2008, 09:42 am
Call me weird but I like to see the tubes stick out of my gear and I like to see the drivers on my speakers no fabric thanks. I will wait until maybe this option might be available in the future. No hurry aa
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: zybar on 18 Feb 2008, 03:55 am
Here is a picture showing black, cream, and blue fabric choices:

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=13632)


Here are the CS2's in a red fabric:

(http://www.audioxsell.com/images/events/010708-ces/large/ModWright/CES08-03.jpg)

George
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: Ric Schultz on 18 Feb 2008, 09:47 pm
You can also get either the black base or the silver base with any color fabric.  For instance, the silver base with the blue fabric looks super (according to Clayton, who has one at his shop).  When I first heard about "blue".....I thought it would be bad......but seeing the picture above makes me completely rethink it.  The blue with the black waveguide looks cool!  Clayton says the picture does not do it justice, at all. 
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: Big Red Machine on 18 Feb 2008, 11:33 pm
How hard would it be for me to remove the waveguide and paint it?
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: zybar on 19 Feb 2008, 12:09 am
How hard would it be for me to remove the waveguide and paint it?

What color would you want it to be?

George
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: Brad on 19 Feb 2008, 03:15 am
George - how about a New York Giants Super Bowl Champs special edition in their colors?

Somewhat kidding - but the colors you're showing are very striking - a big step up from the ordinary.
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: Avalon on 19 Feb 2008, 07:24 am
Oatmeal biscuit!

...and so on... each to their own.

How easy is it to put on our own fabric?

Even wives may participate, like they can't with other products.

Could be an acceptance breakthrough...

Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: Big Red Machine on 19 Feb 2008, 10:53 am
Well since the bases can be painted I was thinking a chrome silver or something to match the silver base.  I'll have to noodle on it some more.
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: JustinY on 20 Feb 2008, 04:50 am
Oatmeal biscuit!

...and so on... each to their own.

How easy is it to put on our own fabric?

Even wives may participate, like they can't with other products.

Could be an acceptance breakthrough...



I would advise not doing that since we choose our fabric not only for the color but for performance reasons, it needs to be stretchable while the same time transparent to let the sound waves through so it doesn't sound muffled. ALso, the fabric is one of the first process of the CS2 assembly which mean you would need to tear the whole unit down to refabric the speaker.
Title: Re: Emerald Physics fabric choices for CS2's
Post by: Avalon on 20 Feb 2008, 02:37 pm
Oatmeal biscuit!
...and so on... each to their own.
How easy is it to put on our own fabric?
Even wives may participate, like they can't with other products.
Could be an acceptance breakthrough...
I would advise not doing that since we choose our fabric not only for the color but for performance reasons, it needs to be stretchable while the same time transparent to let the sound waves through so it doesn't sound muffled. ALso, the fabric is one of the first process of the CS2 assembly which mean you would need to tear the whole unit down to refabric the speaker.

OK, I presumed and therefore omitted fabric qualifications - but would it be hypercritical, if the HF/mid w/guide is left exposed?
Myself, I'm extremely demanding for clarity, but cannot hear acoustic fabric over most woofers. 

If disassembling the speaker is necessary (and stays that way), that would be a chore and a risk - but getting high-end accepted is important to me.  Student days are gone and solo evenings unsociable.  I still feel it would be well worth the effort (for some of us) to let our better halves choose the (sonically acceptable) fabric, if that means getting the CS2 into the more civilised rooms of the house.

I didn't wish to detract (one jot) from performance whilst alluding to a practical, commercial aspect that could see more CS2s in more places. :wink: