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Title: DIY for cables.
Post by: nutt2524 on 14 Jul 2017, 03:42 pm
Hi, Everyone. I want to DIY for the Ac power cord cables . I like cables is sound proof dynamic as FIM cables. Please advice for me.

Thank you.
   
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: WireNut on 14 Jul 2017, 04:58 pm
Look for the Bob Crump / Asylum mains cable thread. I thought I had the link  :scratch:.
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: Phil A on 14 Jul 2017, 05:11 pm
There's info here on some things and I'm sure more if one does a search - http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=50799.0
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: timind on 14 Jul 2017, 05:14 pm
Lots of good info here: http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/diycables.html (http://www.tnt-audio.com/clinica/diycables.html)
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: Speedskater on 14 Jul 2017, 10:16 pm
A DIY power cord something like this would be nice.
https://www.ramelectronics.net/PC.aspx
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: nutt2524 on 15 Jul 2017, 01:23 am
Ok, Thank you very much for everyone. But i have a one question. When TRL without Paul Weitzel. Who are continuing of TRL. I like amp and cables Paul's. If you know. Please let me know.

Thank you very much.
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: Mike B. on 15 Jul 2017, 02:04 pm
There are some simple filters that can be included in the cable also
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: Speedskater on 15 Jul 2017, 02:51 pm
Any filter worth having is rather large and heavy. So think of it as a filter with attached cords. Also the cord from the filter to the hi-fi component should be  as short as practicable.
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: simoon on 15 Jul 2017, 04:58 pm
I found this some time ago. Been on my list of projects. 


  https://www.venhaus1.com/diymains.html
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: Mike B. on 15 Jul 2017, 05:33 pm
Any filter worth having is rather large and heavy. So think of it as a filter with attached cords. Also the cord from the filter to the hi-fi component should be  as short as practicable.

Oh, OK. Guess a number of cable makers are wrong. My mistake.
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: Speedskater on 15 Jul 2017, 07:03 pm
Oh, OK. Guess a number of cable makers are wrong. My mistake.
Not your mistake, it's the cable maker's mistake.
They don't have a clue about power line filters.
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Which cable makers were you thinking of?
Because sometimes a ferrite choke is added so a computer or component can pass the FCC interference tests.
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: Johnny2Bad on 15 Jul 2017, 11:08 pm
Not your mistake, it's the cable maker's mistake.
They don't have a clue about power line filters.
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Which cable makers were you thinking of?
Because sometimes a ferrite choke is added so a computer or component can pass the FCC interference tests.

Yup. A Band-Aid to fix an issue that shouldn't exist, but costs too much to fix once you're at the compliance testing stage, or the Bean Counters nixed a proper design in favour of a 20 cent solution.
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: earwig on 16 Jul 2017, 01:34 pm
Just made me some outta Belden Teflon fire alarm cable  with Marinco plugs lol
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: Speedskater on 16 Jul 2017, 04:04 pm
'fire alarm' cable is designed for power limited circuits.
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: srb on 16 Jul 2017, 04:50 pm
'fire alarm' cable is designed for power limited circuits.

Belden also makes NPLF Non-Power-Limited fire alarm cable, although the Max Recommended Current of 12A per conductor @ 25°C for the 12AWG cable is still quite a bit less than the 20A per conductor rating for standard 12AWG power cables. (?)

http://info.belden.com/hubfs/ESD-Assets/Product-Pages/Copper/Cable/safety-fire-alarm-cables.pdf

Also the fire alarm cable doesn't come in 3-conductor, so you would need the 4-conductor cable for a grounded power cord.

Steve
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: nutt2524 on 17 Jul 2017, 02:09 pm
I use TRL wires from Paul. The Paul's cable is great dynamic and soundstage. Now but he has passed. I can find TRL wires from where?

Thank you. 
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: earwig on 19 Jul 2017, 11:36 am
Its a Belden  83802 I got from Audiyo a few years ago ,a  stiff red teflon with shield and two conductors  both 12 guage inside . I bought an extra 16 guage red teflon wire from Lees electronics and wrapped it on the outside  for ground sleeved up with red braided plastic ,red heatshrink on both ends and bolted on the marincos plugs. Made four 6ft power cables. Theres a 83803 thats three conductor but I thought the two conductor version  with outside ground wire was better cause its better flexibility to use. But its up to you .
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: Speedskater on 19 Jul 2017, 02:42 pm
The Safety Ground/Protective Earth wire/wires should be:
a] as large or larger in total cross-section area as the Hot or Neutral. (larger is good)
b] Be Green or Green/Yellow in color.
c] Be in close proximity to the Hot & Neutral wires.
Title: Re: DIY for cables.
Post by: earwig on 21 Jul 2017, 02:25 am
Here is my DIY Belden power cables I made.If you look at the tiny piece in the center I tipped the ground wire at both ends with green heat shrink to indicate a ground wire and also you can see its configuration.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=165813)