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Title: WAF!
Post by: albireo13 on 21 Aug 2015, 12:03 pm
I need a huge WAF to help me get some Salks.
Show me what works for you.THX

ROB
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 21 Aug 2015, 12:33 pm
I solved the prob kick out my first wife.
The second was less picky about equips.
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: robin67 on 21 Aug 2015, 01:29 pm
I need a huge WAF to help me get some Salks.
Show me what works for you.THX

ROB
just ask her if she can take your balls out of her purse  :lol:
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: Austin08 on 21 Aug 2015, 02:28 pm
I bough my wife a nice car and in return not only I got three Salks but also a system overhaul :)
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: R Swerdlow on 21 Aug 2015, 03:05 pm
Jim Salk's veneers and finishes are the best in the business.

Get your wife involved in their choice.  Jim's knowledge and suggestions will be invaluable in winning her over.
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: albireo13 on 21 Aug 2015, 03:34 pm
just ask her if she can take your balls out of her purse  :lol:

Happy wife ... happy life!   
 8)
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: ernest787 on 21 Aug 2015, 04:24 pm
I think I'm lucky and my wife doesn't give me much grief over these purchases.  I handle most of the fiances so when I ask her, she usually says "you know how much money we have and if we have it, then that's fine."


She is also OK with it b/c I've explained to her that these purchases are purchses that could last a life time... until she realized that you will always want to upgrade  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: JonnyFive on 21 Aug 2015, 05:25 pm
My advice would be to get a new W, but since that won't go over well...here's a common sales technique.

Try and sell her on something that's kind of hideous, more expensive than a Salk, and something you ultimately don't want.  Work to convince her, act disappointed when she says no.  Then pretend like you're compromising and offer her a better looking and cheaper Salk model.  Compromise has been achieved and you got what you wanted.

Or you could order them and just set them up when she's not there.  When she comes home you say "I don't know what happened, someone must have broken in and left us these new speakers???"

Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: Bemopti123 on 21 Aug 2015, 05:39 pm
Happy wife ... happy life!   
 8)

Tottering one's happiness on the whims of a spouse's approval does not seem to me like a good thing!  Jajajajaja.

My wife has threatened to dump all my speakers, drivers and equipment to the curb but has not gone through it yet.  I guess I must be making her somehow happy.  Jajajajajaja :thumb:
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: sunnydaze on 21 Aug 2015, 06:24 pm
My advice would be to get a new W, but since that won't go over well...here's a common sales technique.

Try and sell her on something that's kind of hideous, more expensive than a Salk, and something you ultimately don't want.  Work to convince her, act disappointed when she says no.  Then pretend like you're compromising and offer her a better looking and cheaper Salk model.  Compromise has been achieved and you got what you wanted.


Compromise?  Manipulation methinks!    :lol:

Nice one, I like it!!     :thumb:
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: JonnyFive on 21 Aug 2015, 06:44 pm
Compromise?  Manipulation methinks!    :lol:

Nice one, I like it!!     :thumb:

Haha, I said "sales technique." 
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: ratso on 21 Aug 2015, 06:49 pm
my wife used to complain about my constant gear flipping. she wouldn't try to stop me, just kept pointing out that it was stupid. after nearly driving myself into the poorhouse, i learned to just be happy with what i have. sometimes they are smarter than us.
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: sunnydaze on 21 Aug 2015, 06:54 pm
Haha, I said "sales technique."


manipulation....sales technique....same thing!     :lol:
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: SteveFord on 21 Aug 2015, 09:01 pm
I would just order them, set them up when she's not around and when she returns home say "prepare to be amazed and astonished" and put on her favorite piece of music.
Then you can say I did it just for you, sweetie pie! and then take her out to dinner.
She won't believe you but that's okay.
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: thunderbrick on 21 Aug 2015, 09:04 pm
I would just order them, set them up when she's not around and when she returns home say "prepare to be amazed and astonished" and put on her favorite piece of music.


What if her favorite music is Celine Dion?   :thumbdown:
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: SteveFord on 21 Aug 2015, 09:47 pm
That's what the hollow tooth concealing the cyanide capsule is for.
Hopefully, that's in HER mouth, not his.

Hey, don't feel bad, I took the wife to a record store and had to burn her purchase to CD: the soundtrack to the Broadway smash hit, CATS.
That was brutal.
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: Ron D on 21 Aug 2015, 10:49 pm
Get a picture of the Salks you want and advise the alternate choice is a pair of Maggie Tympanis (3 panels a side) - the Salks will look like a no brainer at this point despite the cost differential :wink:
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: JerryM on 21 Aug 2015, 10:52 pm
I need a huge WAF to help me get some Salks.
Show me what works for you.THX

ROB

What Salk's do you have in mind?
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: albireo13 on 21 Aug 2015, 11:25 pm
My wife and I get along w ell and are fairly independent. She spends $$$ on her hobbies and I spend on mine. 
She never gives me a hard time about purchases.  She actually thinks I am too frugal and should spend more
on myself. 

Still, a high WAF will engage my wife more into audio I feel.
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: Tomy2Tone on 21 Aug 2015, 11:50 pm
She actually thinks I am too frugal and should spend more
on myself. 

 :o

If ya got a green light, put the pedal to the metal! But it's nice you're being considerate, like you said...happy wife happy life. Enjoy the ride choosing your speakers.
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: albireo13 on 22 Aug 2015, 01:31 am
just ask her if she can take your balls out of her purse  :lol:

....  says the guy still living in Mommy's basement!
LOL
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: thunderbrick on 22 Aug 2015, 01:32 am
....  says the guy still living in Mommy's basement!
LOL

 :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: jsalk on 22 Aug 2015, 12:01 pm
I need a huge WAF to help me get some Salks.
Show me what works for you.THX

ROB

We have received more than a few emails over the years from the spouse of someone who purchased speakers.  In those emails, the writers often say they are not interested in audio, but wanted to write and thank us for the nicest furniture in their home.

I always encourage someone concerned about WAF to have their spouse to select the finish (or at least provide substantial input into the selection process).  It is all about encouraging them to take at least a degree of ownership in the process.

We have had scores of couples come to our shop over the years.  Often, the spouse is not at all excited about the impending purchase and seems quite bored.  But then we start talking about finishes.  I show them different veneer samples and ask questions about their taste in decor.  I see an almost immediate change in their attitude.  Most seem to enjoy the process of being able to create their own look.  When the speakers finally arrive, they are able to take ownership because the creation was theirs.  Problem solved.  And when they hear their favorite music at a level of quality they haven't heard before, well...game over.

- Jim
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: toddc2 on 22 Aug 2015, 02:55 pm
My advice would be to get a new W, but since that won't go over well...here's a common sales technique.

Try and sell her on something that's kind of hideous, more expensive than a Salk, and something you ultimately don't want.  Work to convince her, act disappointed when she says no.  Then pretend like you're compromising and offer her a better looking and cheaper Salk model.  Compromise has been achieved and you got what you wanted.


I used this technique years ago when I purchased my first Saab convertible! I started the discussion with a Corvette convertible and settled for the Saab. These days I wouldn't mind picking up a new Corvette, so I can use the previous compromise to start that discussion.
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: benguin on 22 Aug 2015, 04:48 pm
I must be one of the lucky anomalies for this.  My wife is very supportive and we approached the selections jointly.  Frankly, she is in music professionally and has a different ear for things I don't always pick up.  She's been my trusted final adviser, and I like having he opinions for consideration.  W

We planned a stop by Jim's shop on one of our trips, and she was sold based on the feeling the sound evoked.  I think we're almost three years in on our SS8 based system, and we're both still wow'ed by the sound and the appearance.

My advice would be not to focus on the logic approach as much as to get her hearing them in action with music she likes.  Budget might be the only real limitation for you both to be in agreement.  Hopefully, that will keep it from being a power struggle/grudge item. 

If the appearance is a big factor, there's bound to be a color/wood/grain/paint/metal that can meet your needs.

Good luck! :-)

Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: thunderbrick on 22 Aug 2015, 04:59 pm
And when they hear their favorite music at a level of quality they haven't heard before, well...game over.

- Jim

Game over is when you say "I Do."
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: Phil A on 22 Aug 2015, 05:05 pm
Just tell here the alternative is to live with me.  First show her all the pics of my stuff in my gallery.  If that doesn't make her say yes to whatever you want, then just show her my picture.  That's bound to scare most :green: :lol:
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: SteveFord on 22 Aug 2015, 05:29 pm
Maybe tell her Phil A and myself are a package deal?
What time do you serve dinner?
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: Phil A on 22 Aug 2015, 05:32 pm
Maybe tell her Phil A and myself are a package deal?


We don't want to kill her!!! :icon_lol:

Seriously - I used to do deliveries/set-ups with a friend who worked at a high end shop.  The significant others used to bitch to me.  I'd tell him would you rather he spend money and stay at home or spend money and either time at a bar or on a golf course.  They would shut right up.
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: sunnydaze on 24 Aug 2015, 04:50 pm
Game over is when you say "I Do."

That's just sad.....so very sad!

May be why I'm still single!     :lol:
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: Phil A on 24 Aug 2015, 05:06 pm
That's just sad.....so very sad!

May be why I'm still single!     :lol:

I had brown hair once and more of it :green: :green:  That's why I'm single now.  Many moons ago I had the owner of the stereo shop helping me mount rear surrounds to the grand room of my old house which had a 19 foot ceiling (the surrounds were slightly over halfway up and tilted down).  The surrounds were large black laminate bookshelf (19 inches high and 10 inches deep and 7 inches wide).  He remarked I'd never get away with that if I was married.  I said that's why I'm not.
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: FullRangeMan on 24 Aug 2015, 05:21 pm
Since a long time only the poors marry, the rich and famous are united by contract, sometimes the contract is not even renewable.
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: thunderbrick on 24 Aug 2015, 05:21 pm
That's just sad.....so very sad!

May be why I'm still single!     :lol:

Yeah, "I Do" means you are agreeing to submit to 24-7 adult supervision.  That's when the trouble starts... :lol:
Title: Re: WAF!
Post by: ckunstadt on 25 Aug 2015, 04:53 pm
from my experience:

While I totally agree that Jim's speakers are finished beautifully, I believe MOST systems are a poke in the eye because of the hodgepodge cluster-hump of componentry that is arranged on a wood plank and cinderblock stand. With an Xbox spilling out and a cable modem balanced on top of Assassins Creed.

Take some care and budget for a very nice cabinet for your equipment. Having doors and drawers can really lighten the visual weight of an audio system. Attend to messy cabling. Minimize the number of colors and finishes. Adding "feminine" items on or around your system is a cheat that's not likely to help. (I'm talking plants and figurines and picture frames. Not tampons.) And for the sake of sound quality, pave the way early for good speaker placement. Don't let the spousal unit expect to have speakers jammed against the wall. Or that speakers may be moved around all the time. It should be part of the deal to allow the speakers to occupy a little space in front of the wall. Finally, where I have failed, is to get a single remote control that makes using the system simple and teach the older people in the house how to use it. If they can't use it or don't understand it, they will likely resent it's presence. Maybe they don't need to know how to switch sample-rates on your outboard DAC, but they should (perhaps) be able to start up Pandora and listen to something they like.

Oh!  What I was never able to articulate to my first wife is that my audio system was different than an appliance -- where you would simply research, shop and choose one and use it until it dies. For many/most of us, it's a hobby or interest that keeps our systems evolving. Things are changed or added and it's not because something was so "wrong" with what we had. The journey is the thing.  Wife 2.0 understands this. Or, at least she expects it.   Don't assume they know your psychology wrt audio.