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Industry Circles => Daedalus Audio => Topic started by: Daedalus Audio on 13 Feb 2021, 01:42 am
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We have taken our top notch Stainless Steel/Brass spikes and added custom made heavy steel bars with Walnut caps.
These are great bases giving added stability for our 8" (Athena series) speakers. The Brass leveling nuts allow for minor height adjustments and when coupled with the steel bars and Stainless spikes work to dissipate resonances and improve the sonics of the speaker systems.
The spikes and bars are powder coated black with the finest most durable coating available. (We can assemble the bases with our standard silver cones if preferred.) The bars, spikes, brass nuts are all custom made locally to the highest standards. Price: $450 a set of four and will fit any speaker approximately 11" wide
Pictured on Daedalus Muse
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=220833)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=220832)
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Will the bars/caps be available for those of us who already use the cones and DiDs?
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Your veneer and cabinet work is just top notch. The base is a nice touch. Beautiful work.
charles
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Will the bars/caps be available for those of us who already use the cones and DiDs?
Good idea, we can do that. It will be $300 for the bars without the spikes.
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Good idea, we can do that. It will be $300 for the bars without the spikes.
Super, I will shoot you an email, and finalize for sending a check. Thanks Lou, was hoping these would show up some time soon.
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I still stuck on all the different wood's and grains in the photo about some thing or another :thumb:
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Will the bars/caps be available for those of us who already use the cones and DiDs?
Note that these cone/spikes are not the same as the older ones without the brass ring and stainless steel (now painted black)
Ordered
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Note that these cone/spikes are not the same as the older ones without the brass ring and stainless steel (now painted black)
Ordered
CORRECT! These spikes are the new Daedalus Stainless Steel with Brass locking nuts. They are powder coated with the highest quality process.
These are far superior to the old spikes that were made elsewhere of lighter weight metal etc.
These new spikes which we designed and have made locally are so good that they were the impetus to design and build our own outriggers.
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In case anyone is interested I have a demo set of the old outriggers for sale. $125
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wow that is cheap for a set of outriggers,even Demo units Love those Stainless Steel/Brass spikes and added custom made heavy steel bars with Walnut caps. :popcorn:
Asghar
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Is the $450 for 2 bars and 4 footers thus 1 speaker's worth or is it double that price to $900 to do 2 speakers?
Bob
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Is the $450 for 2 bars and 4 footers thus 1 speaker's worth or is it double that price to $900 to do 2 speakers?
Bob
Good question. The $450 is for 4 bars and 8 spikes, enough for one pair of speakers.
btw, Any of you who know how much high quality metal work cost will know that is a very reasonable price. :thumb:
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Amen to that! Do these work as well with other similarly sized speakers that are 11" or less across the bottom front? What will you hear that is better?
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Hi Lou
Would these fit the Ulysses?
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Amen to that! Do these work as well with other similarly sized speakers that are 11" or less across the bottom front? What will you hear that is better?
Yes these will work with other speakers. Below is a drawing with the specs. You can see that the slots for mounting allow for different speakers bolt patterns.
As to the sonics, I have not had a chance to directly evaluate that as yet, plus these type of additions depend on many factors. In general I have found that good spikes etc will improve bass definition and overall imaging, usually with a greater sense of clarity and "space" around the notes.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=221093)
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Hi Lou
Would these fit the Ulysses?
hi Tom,
Yes they are made specifically for all of our 8" woofer type speakers.
thanks,
Lou
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Installed mine today. Easy install. I’ll try and take pics tomorrow.
Definitely more stable with my narrow Muses on a padded carpet.
Thanks Lou!
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The rails are an easy install. I managed fine on my own without my wife's help. Here are some pics of them on my Athenas.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=221981)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=221982)
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(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=221985)
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Greg, some questions if you don't mind.
Prior to the installation were the speakers which version of spikes were the speakers on? With the stability base is there any specific SQ improvements that you noted?
Thank you
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Apologize for my above incorrect sentencing
Prior to the installation which version of spikes were the speakers on? With the stability base are there any specific SQ improvements that you noted?
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I had Lou's top of the line silver Daedalus cones before I purchased the rails. I am glad Lou was able to sell the rails without the cones.
The SQ was excellent before I installed the rails, and remained as good (or slightly better) after installing the rails. Because I moved the speakers and re-positioned them I cannot say how much SQ improvement was from the rails, and what could be attributed to repositioning the speakers. Also, the rails brought the tweeter height up slightly which worked better for my setup.
My primary objective for the rails was because I wanted to make sure the speakers are as stable as possible, and I like the aesthetics of outrigger rails.
I would recommend them based on my experience.
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I had Lou's top of the line silver Daedalus cones before I purchased the rails. I am glad Lou was able to sell the rails without the cones.
The SQ was excellent before I installed the rails, and remained as good (or slightly better) after installing the rails. Because I moved the speakers and re-positioned them I cannot say how much SQ improvement was from the rails, and what could be attributed to repositioning the speakers. Also, the rails brought the tweeter height up slightly which worked better for my setup.
My primary objective for the rails was because I wanted to make sure the speakers are as stable as possible, and I like the aesthetics of outrigger rails.
I would recommend them based on my experience.
My exact experience, as well. Silver stainless cones. I also use silver speaker DiDs. I moved my speakers another 3 inches out while repositioning things. I really like the added stability.
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After a couple of weeks with my updated Ulysses (new tweeters and midrange, stability bases with stainless cones) I am very satisfied. Other things in my 5.1 system have changed as well, but I can listen to a dedicated stereo signal path only, and notice a smoother, more open sound than I remember. Bass may be a little better as well, it’s hard for me to tell since some aspects of the room have also changed.
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After a couple of weeks with my updated Ulysses (new tweeters and midrange, stability bases with stainless cones) I am very satisfied. Other things in my 5.1 system have changed as well, but I can listen to a dedicated stereo signal path only, and notice a smoother, more open sound than I remember. Bass may be a little better as well, it’s hard for me to tell since some aspects of the room have also changed.
Good to hear! My Ulysses will soon be travelling across country for the V.3 upgrade and I like hearing the mids are smoother and more open. I'm looking forward to the refresh and upgrade!
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Those basses are nice
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Daedalus Stability bases work on other speakers as well! :thumb:
note and pic from a happy customer:
I got the new outriggers yesterday and was able to attach them tonight. Extremely well made and truly have made a significant improvement sonically.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=235372)
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Hi, has anyone tried these on Legacy Signature SE speakers. I just acquired a pair and feel they could use some stability. I have a pair of Athenas with the older stability bases and tried to match them up to see if they would fit the Legacy speakers. They fit on the back side of the speakers but the front is a little wider and the adjustment knob does not quite clear the sides of the speaker (very close to doing so though). I was wondering if the wooden top on these new stability bases might have a little more room.
If someone had time to measure the dimension from the inside of the wooden tops on the new ones, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
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Hi, has anyone tried these on Legacy Signature SE speakers. I just acquired a pair and feel they could use some stability. I have a pair of Athenas with the older stability bases and tried to match them up to see if they would fit the Legacy speakers. They fit on the back side of the speakers but the front is a little wider and the adjustment knob does not quite clear the sides of the speaker (very close to doing so though). I was wondering if the wooden top on these new stability bases might have a little more room.
If someone had time to measure the dimension from the inside of the wooden tops on the new ones, I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
We have a couple different sizes that may work. There is no "wiggle room" on the walnut caps.
btw I sent you an email reply a couple days ago... please check your spam folder.
thanks,
Lou
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Thanks Lou. I should get in the habit of checking my spam folder at times. Your reply was there. Thanks for the reply and I replied to you. I like the option you presented and would like to buy these.
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Likely no surprise to most if not all that come to this site, Lou helped me out with my situation of wanting the use his stability bars and spikes on a pair of Legacy Audio Signature SE speakers I recently obtained. My issue was the front of the spakers were a little to wide for the normal bars. Lo and behold Lou has a larger size available and provided me with two of the longer bars and two of the shorter/normal bars along with the spikes. I did have to have a modification done as the Legacy speakers have 12mm threaed connections on the bottom. I had a local machine shop widen the slots for attaching the bars to the bottom of the speakers. These have really improved the stability of these speakers and upon first listen I feel I fheard tighter base but more listening needed to make sure. Lou is really awesome to deal with as you know.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=248766)
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Sideways speakers give me vertigo, so here they are in an upright position. Congrats on achieving your goal with Lou's stability bases!
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=248770)
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Thanks for fixing that.
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I thought the first picture said more about the capabilities of Lous spikes.
Tip them forward tip them back they rock the wall!
Alan
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Hi
I'm a new user here, with a pair of Ulysses, I wanted to know who has the speakers resting on stands, see photos, if they have any suggestions to raise them about 5 centimeters, or 2 inches, to better align the ears and tweeters with each other .
The need derives from a near field listening and therefore I am a little too high up as a seat, I would like to lift the speakers without affecting the sound and the current rendering with the original bases, thanks for any suggestion
Dario
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=250902)
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Hi
I'm a new user here, with a pair of Ulysses, I wanted to know who has the speakers resting on stands, see photos, if they have any suggestions to raise them about 5 centimeters, or 2 inches, to better align the ears and tweeters with each other.
Place the speakers on 2-inch butcher blocks with rubber pads on the bottom so they don't slide or scratch your wood flooring. Another option is to angle the speakers upwards. If your spikes aren't adjustable, experiment by inserting $3 rubber doorstops between the speakers and the stands. If it works, craft a more elegant solution.
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Place the speakers on 2-inch butcher blocks with rubber pads on the bottom so they don't slide or scratch your wood flooring. Another option is to angle the speakers upwards. If your spikes aren't adjustable, experiment by inserting $3 rubber doorstops between the speakers and the stands. If it works, craft a more elegant solution.
HI
Thanks for the suggestions, the idea of raising the speakers by tilting them slightly so as to better align the tweeters emission is interesting, I'll do some tests
Dario