Bryston BDP-1 Sneak Peak for Audiocircle

BrystonFan · « **Reply #400 on:** 16 Nov 2010, 12:24 am »

Hi Gary L,
Congrats!

How do you have the SP2 + BDA-1 + BDP-1 all connected ?

Thanks.

Gary L · « **Reply #401 on:** 16 Nov 2010, 12:46 am »

Hi BrystonFan,

The BDP-1 is connected to the BDA-1 via an AES/EBU digital cable. The BDA-1 is then connected to the stereo analog inputs of the SP-2 via analog interconnects.

Gary L

BrystonFan · « **Reply #402 on:** 16 Nov 2010, 04:32 am »

Thanks Gary L.
That's exactly how Mr. T suggested connecting all three bad boys.
I take it you are using the stereo analog AUX input on the SP2 ?

Gary L · « **Reply #403 on:** 16 Nov 2010, 04:47 pm »

Hi BrystonFan,

Yes, I am using the AUX input. You could, of course, use any of the available inputs.

Since Bryston now has the BDP-1, maybe they should identify one of the inputs on the SP-3 as DP.

James, what do you think?

Gary L.

alexone · « **Reply #404 on:** 17 Nov 2010, 07:11 pm »

Quote from: alexone on 15 Nov 2010, 08:01 am

James,

is it easy to take off a 19" faceplate of a BDP-1? can it be done by the customer?

are the 17" and 19" faceplates of the same thickness?

al.

James...?

al.

James Tanner · « **Reply #405 on:** 17 Nov 2010, 07:22 pm »

Quote from: alexone on 17 Nov 2010, 07:11 pm

James...?

al.

Sorry did not see this.

No ... not easy - the BDP-1 has a circuit board and display mounted to the back of the faceplate - not something you would want to do at home.

james

alexone · « **Reply #406 on:** 17 Nov 2010, 08:50 pm »

...ok. thanks.

al.

Marius · « **Reply #407 on:** 17 Nov 2010, 10:31 pm »

Hi everyone,

No pun intended, but is there anything the BDP-1 can do, or does better than the new UD 7004 http://us.marantz.com/Products/3298.asp.

A Bryston machine lover as I am, this machine seems to have it lined up. Usability, versatility, quality?

Greetings,
Marius

James Tanner · « **Reply #408 on:** 17 Nov 2010, 10:35 pm »

Quote from: Marius on 17 Nov 2010, 10:31 pm

Hi everyone,

No pun intended, but is there anything the BDP-1 can do, or does better than the new UD 7004 http://us.marantz.com/Products/3298.asp.

A Bryston machine lover as I am, this machine seems to have it lined up. Usability, versatility, quality?

Greetings,
Marius

Hi Marius - do you mean UD7005?

james

golfugh · « **Reply #409 on:** 17 Nov 2010, 10:38 pm »

I think he means NA7004 network audio player

James Tanner · « **Reply #410 on:** 17 Nov 2010, 10:47 pm »

I have not had a chance to look at it in detail Marius but it looks like it is limited to 96K playback?

Ulitmately you would have to listen and decide for yourself of course.

james

Phil A · « **Reply #411 on:** 17 Nov 2010, 11:58 pm »

Quote from: James Tanner on 17 Nov 2010, 10:47 pm

I have not had a chance to look at it in detail Marius but it looks like it is limited to 96K playback?

Ulitmately you would have to listen and decide for yourself of course.

james

Yes - from what I've read it is limited to 96k

Marius · « **Reply #412 on:** 18 Nov 2010, 12:34 am »

Quote from: Phil A on 17 Nov 2010, 11:58 pm

Yes - from what I've read it is limited to 96k

well no: Linear PCM signals with a sampling frequency of 32kHz, 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 64kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz, or 192kHz can be input into this device.

to be read in : http://us.marantz.com/NA7004_U_EN_UG_v00.pdf

and yes I meant the network audio player, sorry for that,

greets ,
Marius

James Tanner · « **Reply #413 on:** 18 Nov 2010, 12:43 am »

Have a look at the Audio Specifications on Page 35 - seems to suggest 96 max?

Anyway, I think you have to listen as my experience with all the different sound cards we evaluated - all of which were capable of 192/24 - sound different. Also the analog circuitry and the power supply integrity all matter a lot in these devices. The way the digital DATA is handled are all important issues.

Listening and evaluating is ultimately what you need to do.

james

srb · « **Reply #414 on:** 18 Nov 2010, 12:59 am »

Quote from: Marius on 18 Nov 2010, 12:34 am

well no: Linear PCM signals with a sampling frequency of 32kHz, 44.1kHz, 48kHz, 64kHz, 88.2kHz, 96kHz, 176.4kHz, or 192kHz can be input into this device.

to be read in : http://us.marantz.com/NA7004_U_EN_UG_v00.pdf

I believe they are referring to linear PCM signals input into the optical or coax inputs.

For playback from a USB connected computer (Page 19), "the supported sampling frequencies are 32/44.1/48/96KHz".

For playback from USB memory devices or iPod (Page 30), the sampling frequencies are limited to 48KHz (WMA, MP3, WAV and MPEG-4 AAC) or 96KHz (FLAC).

Steve

Alphonse · « **Reply #415 on:** 18 Nov 2010, 03:40 am »

James, have you done testing on sound quality of the luddite (no network) vs propeller head (connected to network) options? Have you observed any audible degradation in SQ or measurable increases in noise once you plug into the network. I really don't want to drag my modem and router into the living room, although I do have an iPad and I would enjoy the option of searching through album art etc while sitting on the couch.

Thanks, Al

James Tanner · « **Reply #416 on:** 18 Nov 2010, 03:54 am »

Quote from: Alphonse on 18 Nov 2010, 03:40 am

James, have you done testing on sound quality of the luddite (no network) vs propeller head (connected to network) options? Have you observed any audible degradation in SQ or measurable increases in noise once you plug into the network. I really don't want to drag my modem and router into the living room, although I do have an iPad and I would enjoy the option of searching through album art etc while sitting on the couch.

Thanks, Al

Hi Al,

Can't say I can hear a difference on or off the network. The only reason the network is used is to provide wireless communication so there is no affect on the digital signal.

james

alexone · « **Reply #417 on:** 18 Nov 2010, 04:56 am »

...almost the same as the Marantz. i think that a lot of manufacturers will come out with this kind of products.

http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CEYQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.ecoustics.com%2Fbbs%2Fmessages%2F10381%2F591530.html&rct=j&q=rotel%20rdg%201520&ei=-q_kTLjcGIqVswa95L2eBA&usg=AFQjCNG-AG1j_HtgW1RaIMHsN61ipmn5kA&cad=rja

al.

James Tanner · « **Reply #418 on:** 18 Nov 2010, 11:59 am »

Hi Folks,

The above product brought to mind an important point about what is different in the BDP-1 as opposed to other USB inputs you see on other products as well as outboard DAC’s (BDA-1) that take a USB input directly from your computer.

When a disc volume (USB hard-drive or thumb-drive) is connected to the BDP-1 Digital Player we are transferring raw digital computer data and not streaming audio from that drive. In other words, we are extracting digital bits without any worry over file corruption or inducement of "jitter" to the file.

We are processing “Raw Digital Data” at the USB input on the BDP-1 and sending it through a buffer to the internal CPU. We are not streaming Audio Class 1 or Class 2. By the way, the concern and discussions you hear about regarding asynchronous versus synchronous with USB inputs has to do with the use of the USB to stream audio class one or two from a Source to a DAC. These concerns do not have any effect on the use of USB to transfer data from a storage device, thumb drive or hard drive, to the CPU over the USB bus like in the Bryston BDP-1 Digital Player.

james

alexone · « **Reply #419 on:** 18 Nov 2010, 06:23 pm »

products like the Marantz or the Rotel are for those who still want it all in one. i don't call it it a bad approach but i think that the strength of the BDP-1 is its 'simplicity'. i've already made my decision and a BDP-1 will be mine sooner or later.

al.