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Audio/Video Gear and Systems => Enclosures => Topic started by: JCarney on 27 Sep 2023, 10:07 pm
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I'm having a flat pack made for the Lii F6-S and received some update pics this afternoon.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=256990)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=256991)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=256992)
JCarney
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How much is the litrage?
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Nice. What's the loading in the box?
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FullRangeMan: I do not know what the interior volume is, but here are the plans he provided. The plans are also on the website. He sells a finished version with the F-6 for $599 called the Emmo F6. All measurements are in cm. The guy I took it to did not notice that the measurements were metric. I had to tell him to look at the legend after he told me it was going to be 5 sheets of mdf. :lol:
Letitroll: I do not know that either. 0 for two so far.
JCarney
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=256997)
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Nice, thanks :thumb:
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When you say you are having flatpacks made, do you mean to sell to others?
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kd4ylq: No, I asked Weiyu before I ordered the drivers if there were a set of plans for a small enclosure for them and he sent me what I posted. This is just for myself, to play around with a full range driver for the first time. Late to the FR party I guess. :D
JCarney
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(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257024)
I picked up the flat pack for the pair of enclosures for my Lii F6-S drivers. The black material is felt to apply to the inner walls to help reduce the interior reflections inside the box.
JCarney
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I thought this worthy of sharing: The guy I used to make the flat packs for the pair of Lii drivers I have has done speaker enclosures before. He mentioned a number of years ago he did the cnc work for a very large speaker, a line array I was able to determine. Then he he told me its model number, LS9. I told him about Danny and GR and told him he did the work for a line array type speaker with a lot of mid woofers and tweeters and it was close to 8' tall. Yep, that is what he did the work for, a pair of LS-9's. He unfortunately did not have any photos. It really is a small bloody world, isn't it?
JCarney
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I glued up one of the interior braces, ensuring that it would go into both sides of the enclosure without a fight.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257051)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257052)
JCarney
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Do you will paint black inside?
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FullRnageMan: No, that is the felt pictured with the flat pack pic for making the interior of the boxes less reflective. I usually put stuff like that on before glue up. The side panels are just free floating in the pic, no glue or clamping yet on the sides. Just that one interior brace/bass baffle(?).
JCarney
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You have tô painting the inside with some colour, MDF are carcinogenic for 5 years.
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Priming the inside is not at all necessary. The adhesive and felt will act as a sealer and get the job done.
JCarney
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I finished lining the inside of the boxes and it took me awhile to figure out how to glue it up. I started with the interior brace/baffle gluing it in place on one side, making sure I had 90 degrees on both sides of the brace while clamping and after. I guess we'll see if it worked or not.
JCarney
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257197)
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More unwanted updates on me project. First box assembly is progressing slower then I want, but there is progress.
JCarney
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257337)
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Not unwanted at all. It's just with a flat pack build there not a lot to comment on unless you're screwing up. How many times can a guy say "great job" or "looks good"? I bet if we had tracking of page views you'd be at the top.
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Not unwanted at all. It's just with a flat pack build there not a lot to comment on unless you're screwing up. How many times can a guy say "great job" or "looks good"? I bet if we had tracking of page views you'd be at the top.
Thank You Letitroll, very kind of you. I was being silly when I typed that, chuckling to myself at the time.
JCarney
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Yeah, I’ve been enjoying the progress as well and am looking forward to seeing how it all turns out.
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Yeah, I’ve been enjoying the progress as well and am looking forward to seeing how it all turns out.
And Thank You seikosha, very kind of you as well. I certainly feel good about you and Letiroll's comments. Thanks guys. I figured out I need a few more 24" clamps to properly do the job, which means I get to go Harbor Freight to grab a few more and to see what other trouble I can get into.
JCarney
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Keep posting build pics. You're inspiring me to get off my butt in order to build a pair of CSS 2TD-X 2.5-way speakers that are sitting in my garage glaring at me every time I pass by them. With luck, I may actually begin gluing them before the end of this month. :duh:
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Keep posting build pics. You're inspiring me to get off my butt in order to build a pair of CSS 2TD-X 2.5-way speakers that are sitting in my garage glaring at me every time I pass by them. With luck, I may actually begin gluing them before the end of this month. :duh:
Thank You as well mresseguie, I'm happy you are finding motivation in my build. I look forward to keeping an eye on yours. I'm glad my mouth was empty when I read the kit was glaring at you because I cracked the hell up. Very funny.
JCarney
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Thankyou JC for your effort, we need more member like you :thumb:
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You have tô painting the inside with some colour, MDF are carcinogenic for 5 years.
FRM, I really wish you'd stop with your baseless assertions. What is it that would change if one were to coat interior with paint? Almost all paint is vapor permeable so that can't be it. Where on earth does the notion that MDF somehow morphs over five years come from? Are you referring to off gassing? At best the information you're providing is misleading.
JCarney, please continue with your posts. I enjoy build threads of all ilks.
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FRM, I really wish you'd stop with your baseless assertions. What is it that would change if one were to coat interior with paint? Almost all paint is vapor permeable so that can't be it. Where on earth does the notion that MDF somehow morphs over five years come from? Are you referring to off gassing? At best the information you're providing is misleading.
JCarney, please continue with your posts. I enjoy build threads of all ilks.
You have to search Google. You seem to live in the Netflix fantasy world, you dont know the basic woodworking safe rules.
MDF exhales formaldehyde vapors for 5 years or more, which is why MDF is guaranteed not to get termites for 5 years. This subject of MDF has already been explained several times by other AC members that work with wood.
On Painting black dont believe me, believe in B&W speakers, which is years ahead of any US manufacturer.
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I value both of your opinions, but please do not continue with this discussion and disrupt my build thread.
Thank You,
JCarney
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I value both of your opinions, but please do not continue with this discussion and disrupt my build thread.
Thank You,
JCarney
Hi JCarney,
even if I am not in the building of speaker enclosure,
I do enjoy your posts.
I like anything about building something yourself for your enjoyment.
Before retiring my job was building electrical control panels for the industires.
From design from a white sheet of paper to complete working control panel.
Please keep up the good work, like they say.
Thanks.
Double A
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"Hi JCarney,
even if I am not in the building of speaker enclosure,
I do enjoy your posts.
I like anything about building something yourself for your enjoyment.
Before retiring my job was building electrical control panels for the industires.
From design from a white sheet of paper to complete working control panel.
Please keep up the good work, like they say.
Thanks.
Double A"
Thanks Double A, I truly appreciate that. I'm also impressed with designing and building electrical panels from scratch. Well done.
JCarney
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More progress today, yay.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257435)
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JCarney
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You can never have too many clamps!
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Never! :lol:
JCarney
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More progress! The front baffle is clamped and drying. WooHoo! Now I can put the the top three pieces in place after about 10 hours of dry time. Not pictured is the speaker cable hole I drilled out in the back top of the cab so I could have a short run over the interior baffle to the driver instead of the at the bottom.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257454)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257455)
JCarney
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More progress today. Two of the three top pieces are in place and drying.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257510)
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JCarney
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The top is on. I had to mod it a little, and I think I took a little too much. I can fix it.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257576)
JCarney
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Starting the second box.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257578)
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JCarney
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Two days without progress, but that ended today. The other box is still being assembled so I sanded the assembled box getting it ready for whatever my wife decides. I asked her to contribute to the finish and she agreed.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257701)
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JCarney
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My wife let me know she wanted something fun for the finish, maybe with sparkles in it. :roll: So I did a quick look and found some latex sparkle paint additive and she has decided on a sun yellow for the base color for the additive. So I have that to look forward to.
The additive:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071D92S9H/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1
JCarney
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I'll be interested to see result. Years ago I used some acrylic kinda glittery or maybe pearly paint on some room lens clones.
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Hi Peter. Here is the base coat color. I may need sunglasses in the room when they are done.
JCarney
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257757)
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Second box under way, and the bottom of the first box is painted black and I put the feet on it as well. When I finish the second box I'll do the same to it before painting them both with the sparkle paint. Oh joy. Two separate gluing sessions pictured.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=257924)
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JCarney
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Looking forward to seeing the paint!
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Looking forward to seeing the paint!
I am too, even though I am reluctant to admit it. I'm shooting for Weds for random orbital sanding, priming and hopefully hand sanding and first color coat if the humidity cooperates.
JCarney
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Been too long since the last update. Life, Grandkids and crap weather have delayed me, but progress has been made the last couple of days. The cabs are assembled, primed twice with sanding between coats, and a base coat has been applied before sanding and the glitter coat.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=258328)
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JCarney
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The glitter coat - I love it!!
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My Granddaughter wanted to help mix the glitter into the paint, and help with the painting too. The pics do not show the glitter very good and I will take pics after they dry in better light than my poorly lit basement. It's gonna kill me, but I will wait until tomorrow to load the drivers and take them for a test spin.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=258369)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=258370)
JCarney
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They are done and in the entertainment room. I did get one pic that a couple of sparkles can be seen glinting in the sun. Really hard to get the sparkle in a pic. They sound like new drivers, kinda tight and a little congested, but I expect that will get better before the end of the day.
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=258377)
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JCarney
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great stuff JC - have been thinking about something similar for my small room - will keep reading and looking forward to listening impressions once broken in a bit.
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great stuff JC - have been thinking about something similar for my small room - will keep reading and looking forward to listening impressions once broken in a bit.
Thanks David, I appreciate that. Now that the Stingray has warmed up, the new toys already sound a little less congested. I basically just set them in place and hooked them up and hit play. I'll wait until tomorrow for better placement once they have played all night and I'll report my findings.
JCarney
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the Lii's seem to have a reputation of taking long periods of time to break in so will be interesting to hear your take on that. Always loved the funky looks of the Stingray - sort of an industrial art project functioning as an amp. Nice combo with the Lii monitors.
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They look great. Remind me of a Tonka toy truck! Congratulations on finishing them. Thanks for sharing the process and look forward to hearing more about the sound.
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DavidS:
I gave that to my wife on her 40th 20 years ago. She would get rid of me before getting rid of the Stingray. :o :lol:
I'm glad you mentioned the long break in, I was unaware.
seikosha:
Thank You. I enjoyed the build and sharing, especially last night with the Granddaughter just vibrating with excitement. Grandson and Daughter not so much. :? :lol:
JCarney
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They have been playing pretty much non-stop since I hooked them up yesterday except for a couple hours last night because my wife wanted to vegitate watching a couple of episodes of a show she likes. I just spent a little time with them and they are coming along nicely. Nelly Furtado "Whoa Nelly" playing "Well, Well" and I was surprised how much better the bass sounded, and her voice was pretty good too. I stuck my head in the room a few hours before and it sounded bad, so they need more time to find themselves. I'll keep them playing until I leave. I'm going out of town on Friday for 4 days, so after my return, I will get to know them better and give a much better write up.
JCarney