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Title: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 7 Jun 2010, 10:40 pm
Hello Everyone! :wave:

I just wanted to put this out there to let everyone know where we're at.

One word, SWAMPED!!! :o

Many of you are waiting for pricing information LS4/6/9's, Sealed Servo Subs, N3's, OB-5/7's, A/V 1RS, flat packs, raw enclosures...

I'm working my rear off trying to get everything priced while at the same time building orders and developing new enclosure designs (I've got some guaranteed "head turners" in the works). :thumb:

Please continue to be patient as we get everything figured out.

If it ever seems like we've vanished it's only because I'm too busy to sit down and post.

Until God says otherwise, Fallen Enclosures isn't going anywhere! :wink:

Thanks,

Ruben

BTW, since I know how much you all like pictures, here's a Pure Black N3S Center that I recently built for a customer. :D


(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6251/pbn3s1.png) (http://img689.imageshack.us/i/pbn3s1.png/)
(http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7033/pbn3s2.png) (http://img338.imageshack.us/i/pbn3s2.png/)
(http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/6003/pbn3s3.png) (http://img31.imageshack.us/i/pbn3s3.png/)
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9894/pbn3s4.png) (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/pbn3s4.png/)
(http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/1131/n3sfb1.png) (http://img175.imageshack.us/i/n3sfb1.png/)
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3508/n3sfb.png) (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/n3sfb.png/)
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/6125/n3sfb2.png) (http://img51.imageshack.us/i/n3sfb2.png/)







Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: chip on 7 Jun 2010, 11:59 pm
Those look great....keep up the good work. :thumb:

Waiting for some pricing info to see which route I want to go.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Rclark on 8 Jun 2010, 12:54 am
me too, I'm interested in pricing for both unfinished flatpack and finished for N3, also available textures and colors.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Bill Baker on 8 Jun 2010, 02:53 am
Absolutely stunning work :drool:
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: praedet on 8 Jun 2010, 11:33 pm
Ruben, should we pm you for prices on flatpacks and finished enclosures?
Thanks,
Ted
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Sparky14 on 9 Jun 2010, 01:56 am
Man, those are purdee!

I don't want to know your prices. I'm happy with my N2X. I'm happy with my N2X. I'm happy with my N2X (gotta keep saying it)

ok...I want to know your prices on N3S
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 11 Jun 2010, 07:23 am
Thanks for all of the compliments guys! :D

Since I'm starting to get a little bit overwhelmed by all of the interest, I've recruited some extra help to assist me in getting better organized and to help keep me on track. I've gotten a little too scattered these past couple of weeks. :oops: I will be updating everyone who is waiting for numbers within the next couple of days.

Thanks again for your patience and for bearing with us through this sometimes difficult learning curve.

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 11 Jun 2010, 07:31 am
Quote from: praedet on  8 Jun 2010, 11:33 pm
Ruben, should we pm you for prices on flatpacks and finished enclosures?
Thanks,
Ted

Hi Ted,

PM's work fine for me!

Thanks,

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 16 Jun 2010, 05:25 am
Okay, I think we've responded to all email and PM's!!!

If we somehow missed you please feel free to thump me over the head via PM. :duh:

Thanks Again!

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: chip on 16 Jun 2010, 05:45 pm
When do you think  you might have a price list available for all options that you will be offering?

Thanks for the PM with the update.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: dBe on 16 Jun 2010, 06:34 pm
Quote from: Outofthewoods on 11 Jun 2010, 07:23 am
Thanks for all of the compliments guys! :D

Since I'm starting to get a little bit overwhelmed by all of the interest, I've recruited some extra help to assist me in getting better organized and to help keep me on track. I've gotten a little too scattered these past couple of weeks. :oops: I will be updating everyone who is waiting for numbers within the next couple of days.

Thanks again for your patience and for bearing with us through this sometimes difficult learning curve.

Ruben
Ruben,

I completely understand what it is like to get swamped and need help.  I'm not a multitasker and tend to have target fixation.

Your cabinets are stupid pretty:  :eyebrows:   they make me go-DUUHHH!!!  You do AWESOME work! :thumb:  I hope nothing but the best for you.  Keep it up.

Dave
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 22 Jun 2010, 02:42 am
Quote from: dBe on 16 Jun 2010, 06:34 pm
Ruben, I completely understand what it is like to get swamped and need help.  I'm not a multitasker and tend to have target fixation.

It's definitely a tricky balancing act, isn't it? :scratch:

Quote from: dBe on 16 Jun 2010, 06:34 pm
Your cabinets are stupid pretty:  :eyebrows:   they make me go-DUUHHH!!!  You do AWESOME work! :thumb:  I hope nothing but the best for you.  Keep it up.

Dave

Thanks a lot Dave!

We'll surely keep it up! :thumb:

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 22 Jun 2010, 04:41 am
I figure it's worth a shot to post this here.

If you called and left me a message last week regarding N3's and Super V's please call again, or shoot me a PM here. I can't make out your name or number on the machine.

Thanks!

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: HT cOz on 27 Jun 2010, 08:03 pm
Ruben let me know if you didn't get a PM from me?
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Rclark on 28 Jun 2010, 03:17 am
Yeah, I also sent a PM about flatpack order.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 30 Jun 2010, 07:17 pm
Yep, got them.

Right back at cha!

Thanks!

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: spuzio on 27 Jul 2010, 04:19 pm
Your inbox is full so i thought i would ask here...

I am interested in a couple of flat packs if you can provide me a quote.

I am looking for V-2 and the AV 1RS out of MDF.

Thanks!

Steve
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: dvenardos on 28 Jul 2010, 04:44 am
Hey Ruben,
Is there some reason that you can't post a price list somewhere? You can always change it as the need arises and it would really cut down on your PMs. Just because I am curious and after seeing your pics I am kind of embarrassed about my own "work".  :oops:

Best,
Don
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 28 Jul 2010, 04:15 pm
Hey Guys,

Sorry about the PM box.:duh: I have not been on the forum since last week. I ran into some finish issues and have had to focus 100% of my energy on getting back on schedule.

If my message box happens to fill up again you can always reach me by email. My email address is listed in my profile.

I will try to respond to everyone's posts by late tonight.

Thanks,

Ruben




Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: cmryan21 on 2 Aug 2010, 08:22 pm
Fellas, roughly how long does Reuben generally take to respond to pm's or emails? Is a week or more typical? Looks like he's busy as can be but I was just trying to find out some basic prices.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: woofersus on 3 Aug 2010, 02:42 am
Not weird.  He's around, just really busy.


Tim Evans
East Street Audio
Onix, Melody, & ACA
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: cmryan21 on 3 Aug 2010, 08:31 pm
Quote from: woofersus on  3 Aug 2010, 02:42 am
Not weird.  He's around, just really busy.
Good deal. Just wondering.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 14 Dec 2010, 06:26 pm
Quote from: dvenardos on 28 Jul 2010, 04:44 am
Hey Ruben,
Is there some reason that you can't post a price list somewhere? You can always change it as the need arises and it would really cut down on your PMs. Just because I am curious and after seeing your pics I am kind of embarrassed about my own "work".  :oops:

Best,
Don

Old question, but still relevant.

I shied away from putting up prices because I didn't want to under/over quote on builds I wasn't familiar with. For a while I was giving people numbers that were too low. As a result, some people got "once in a lifetime" deals on first builds of a particular model. :thumb: Now that I have a lot of the builds on the books, I'm comfortable listing prices. However, there may be some adjustments here and there if necessary.

I will post raw built and flat pack prices this weekend.

No need to feel embarrassed Don! I've been in the woodworking trade for 12 years. It's what I do! :D You have a PM.

Thanks!

Ruben

Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: skeeter99 on 14 Dec 2010, 10:44 pm
Dude Ruben, these cabinets are sick. The gloss is ridiculous!!!

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6251/pbn3s1.png)
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: prokennex on 14 Dec 2010, 11:38 pm
Although it has been said before. It's worth saying again these are absolutely stunning; first rate.

Ray
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 15 Dec 2010, 02:22 am
Quote from: skeeter99 on 14 Dec 2010, 10:44 pm
Dude Ruben, these cabinets are sick. The gloss is ridiculous!!!

(http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/6251/pbn3s1.png)

Thanks Scott! :D

If anyone is curious, these enclosures (as shown) are $350 each. :thumb:

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 15 Dec 2010, 02:23 am
Quote from: prokennex on 14 Dec 2010, 11:38 pm
Although it has been said before. It's worth saying again these are absolutely stunning; first rate.

Ray

Thanks Ray! :D

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 15 Dec 2010, 03:45 am
Another one! :D

(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6176/anotherone.png) (http://img149.imageshack.us/i/anotherone.png/)

Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: skeeter99 on 15 Dec 2010, 04:09 am
Quote from: Outofthewoods on 15 Dec 2010, 03:45 am
Another one! :D

(http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6176/anotherone.png) (http://img149.imageshack.us/i/anotherone.png/)

Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that St RUBEN soon would be there.

The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of PIANO BLACK N3S' danced in their heads.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: PDR on 15 Dec 2010, 04:12 am
wow..........
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 15 Dec 2010, 04:20 am
Quote from: skeeter99 on 15 Dec 2010, 04:09 am
Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that St RUBEN soon would be there.

The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of PIANO BLACK N3S' danced in their heads.

Thanks Scott, that's awesome! :thumb:
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 15 Dec 2010, 04:23 am
Quote from: PDR on 15 Dec 2010, 04:12 am
wow..........

Thanks Perry! :D
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: skeeter99 on 15 Dec 2010, 04:09 pm
Quote from: Outofthewoods on 15 Dec 2010, 02:22 am
Thanks Scott! :D

If anyone is curious, these enclosures (as shown) are $350 each. :thumb:

Ruben

Showed my wife these pics last night and she got a huge smile and said, wow those are gorgeous! I think they passed the WAF test  :thumb:
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 15 Dec 2010, 06:29 pm
Quote from: skeeter99 on 15 Dec 2010, 04:09 pm
Showed my wife these pics last night and she got a huge smile and said, wow those are gorgeous! I think they passed the WAF test  :thumb:

Thank you Scotts wife! :D

My wife feels the same way. :thumb:

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 23 Dec 2010, 12:32 am
Quote from: Outofthewoods on 14 Dec 2010, 06:26 pm
I will post raw built and flat pack prices this weekend.

Update!

I'm going to hold off on listing the raw options (for now) as I'm currently in the process of developing a completely new enclosure system which we've dubbed the "Quik Fix Enclosure System" (QFES). :thumb:

The QFES will make building your own set of speaker enclosures easier than ever before. These enclosures come shipped as a flat pack, are pre veneered, and the only tools and supplies you'll need to assemble them are a screw gun, screw driver and wood glue. NO CLAMPS NECESSARY!

Standard veneer options will include Red Alder, Maple, Hickory/Pecan, Cherry, Walnut, Birch, Clear Pine, Knotty Pine, Jatoba, Mahogany (African) and Red/White Oak.

As soon as I have everything buttoned up I'll start a new thread with a full pictorial showing how the system works.

Thanks!

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: corndog71 on 23 Dec 2010, 12:34 am
that sounds exciting.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: skeeter99 on 23 Dec 2010, 01:57 am
Quote from: corndog71 on 23 Dec 2010, 12:34 am
that sounds exciting.

Werd! That would add a HUGE new dimension for those of us who want a veneered cabinet, don't have the skills/time to do it but still want to put stuff together. Like me!

<--- following topic  :thumb:
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: HT cOz on 23 Dec 2010, 02:51 pm
Hey Rubin,

This is great news for us DIY guys.  For those people who have never attempted a build, there is a ton of work that goes into building a speaker.  Rubin you are making it way easier with this type of idea.  Just be sure to price it high enough to make it worth your time so you will still be rocking it in a few years when I want a pair of Super Vs  :icon_lol:
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: dvenardos on 23 Dec 2010, 06:01 pm
I think the veneer is the fun part. It doesn't look anything like what Ruben does but it just takes some TLC to get something that looks decent.
Maybe get this system with raw mdf too?
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: srb on 23 Dec 2010, 06:32 pm
Quote from: dvenardos on 23 Dec 2010, 06:01 pm
I think the veneer is the fun part. It doesn't look anything like what Ruben does but it just takes some TLC to get something that looks decent.

The average DIYer can get a decent looking veneer job with enough time and patience.  It is unlikely that a DIYer could come close to the level of Ruben's painted cabinets without a spray booth, professional spray equipment, 2 part catalyzed paints or lacquers and some skill and experience.
 
Steve
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: TRADERXFAN on 23 Dec 2010, 07:52 pm
Can this approach be used with laminate?
Thinking of the gloss black 909. My wife is not into the "woody" look... so that is what I am leaning toward and this seems more economical to a painted finish.

like this sub
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=67474.msg623342#msg623342

-Tony
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: dvenardos on 4 Jan 2011, 08:51 pm
bump.
Curious about the prices...
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: django11 on 4 Jan 2011, 09:02 pm
Quote from: TRADERXFAN on 23 Dec 2010, 07:52 pm
Can this approach be used with laminate?
Thinking of the gloss black 909. My wife is not into the "woody" look... so that is what I am leaning toward and this seems more economical to a painted finish.

like this sub
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=67474.msg623342#msg623342

-Tony

When I worked with gloss laminate it scratched very easily.  It has a protective plastic on it for a reason.   Also the edges are not very attractive and all those sharp edges will present a lot of occasion for chipping during shipping and while moving them around.  All in all, IMO this would be a step, or two, down from Reuben's very fine work.

Although maybe Ruben has a different take on this.  Also, maybe a mix of materials so you don't get the seam from adjoining edges.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: TRADERXFAN on 4 Jan 2011, 10:43 pm
Quote from: django11 on  4 Jan 2011, 09:02 pm
When I worked with gloss laminate it scratched very easily.  It has a protective plastic on it for a reason.   Also the edges are not very attractive and all those sharp edges will present a lot of occasion for chipping during shipping and while moving them around.  All in all, IMO this would be a step, or two, down from Reuben's very fine work.

Although maybe Ruben has a different take on this.  Also, maybe a mix of materials so you don't get the seam from adjoining edges.

Thanks very much for that. Didn't realize it was that fragile.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: dvenardos on 4 Jan 2011, 10:47 pm
A satin black paint finish would be pretty economical, it is the gloss paint finishes that are so labor intensive.

Quote from: TRADERXFAN on  4 Jan 2011, 10:43 pm
Thanks very much for that. Didn't realize it was that fragile.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: django11 on 5 Jan 2011, 12:13 am
Again that was just my opinion ymmv.

How about wood finished to black as in this  thread (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=88377.0)? 
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 5 Jan 2011, 03:51 am
Quote from: dvenardos on  4 Jan 2011, 08:51 pm
bump.
Curious about the prices...

Hey Don,

Not there yet.

I've not had a lot of time to work on them since making the announcement. I need to finalize some details before I'll know where the numbers will end up. As soon as I set everything in stone I'll start a new thread showing how the system works and what each kit costs.

Thanks,

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 5 Jan 2011, 04:27 am
As was mentioned, the high gloss laminate is prone to scratching easily.

However, as long as you don't scratch it, it does just fine! :P

I have a couple of ideas on how to incorporate laminate into these kits that would look very nice. I'll post a laminate option in the official QFES thread.

Thanks!

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 5 Jan 2011, 05:11 am
Quote from: srb on 23 Dec 2010, 06:32 pm

The average DIYer can get a decent looking veener job with enough time and patience.

Absolutely! :D

The pre-veneered kits are for those who, for whatever reason(s), would rather not have to handle the veneering aspect themselves.

Those who'd prefer to apply veneer themselves will have the option of purchasing the QFES raw.

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: kramertc on 5 Jan 2011, 05:15 pm
Ruben,

What does QFES stand for and where is the official QFES thread?
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: srb on 5 Jan 2011, 05:28 pm
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=82179.msg880944#msg880944 (http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=82179.msg880944#msg880944)
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 5 Jan 2011, 07:11 pm
Thanks Steve!
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: dvenardos on 5 Jan 2011, 07:38 pm
 :thumb: Are you planning on using dowels or do you have something else in mind? When you mentioned this idea I thought of the furniture kits that you get at the big box stores that an idiot could put together. Of course, done with quality!

Quote from: Outofthewoods on  5 Jan 2011, 05:11 am
The pre-veneered kits are for those who, for whatever reason(s), would rather not have to handle the veneering aspect themselves.

Those who'd prefer to apply veneer themselves will have the option of purchasing the QFES raw.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: jr1414 on 20 Jan 2011, 01:33 pm
Was just wondering if you made any progress on your construction system, Ruben.  Sounds very interesting, just not sure how it would work and how the finished product would look.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: chip on 20 Jan 2011, 09:31 pm
Ruben - Where are you hiding  :scratch: I would like to move forward on my builds please get back with me.

Chad
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 22 Jan 2011, 05:55 am
Quote from: jr1414 on 20 Jan 2011, 01:33 pm
Was just wondering if you made any progress on your construction system, Ruben.  Sounds very interesting, just not sure how it would work and how the finished product would look.

Sorry, nothing new to report. Too darn busy! :whip:

They're going to look very nice. :wink:

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 22 Jan 2011, 06:02 am
Quote from: chip on 20 Jan 2011, 09:31 pm
Ruben - Where are you hiding  :scratch: I would like to move forward on my builds please get back with me.

Chad

 :peek:

Hey Chad,

I apologize for being scarce this past week.

Just sent you an email.

Thanks,

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: khill on 1 Jul 2011, 01:09 am
Hi Ruben-

Just curious...how much would it cost to build Super V enclosures?

 :)
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 1 Jul 2011, 04:11 pm
Quote from: khill on  1 Jul 2011, 01:09 am
Hi Ruben-

Just curious...how much would it cost to build Super V enclosures?

 :)

Hi khill,

$1500-$3500 (plus freight) depending on materials and finish.

Build and finish quality are furniture grade across the board.

Thanks,

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Coldfusion on 14 Sep 2012, 01:06 pm
Ruben,

Could you please post prices for the X-LS and X-LS Encore finished in gloss?  (or PM). 

Thanks
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 14 Sep 2012, 03:17 pm
Quote from: Coldfusion on 14 Sep 2012, 01:06 pm
Ruben,

Could you please post prices for the X-LS and X-LS Encore finished in gloss?  (or PM). 

Thanks

Hi Coldfusion,

You might want to ask Danny about these ones. He's been working on getting X-LS enclosures made in small runs and might be able to get some finished in gloss.

Best,

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Coldfusion on 14 Sep 2012, 06:26 pm
Thanks Ruben, i did ask him, i wasn't aware they'd be finished cabinets, my impression (which is probably wrong) is they were unfinished.
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Outofthewoods on 14 Sep 2012, 11:28 pm
Sorry about that! I thought that some of them were being painted. :scratch:

My next suggestion would be to PM Ron. He does very nice work and can build you a pair using Dayton enclosures from PartsExpress.

I'd have to charge a lot more than Ron would to build them myself. Piano gloss finish is very time consuming.

If all else fails let me know and I'll put together some numbers for you.  :D

Best,

Ruben
Title: Re: A quick note from Fallen Enclosures
Post by: Danny Richie on 15 Sep 2012, 05:51 am
Quote from: Coldfusion on 14 Sep 2012, 06:26 pm
Thanks Ruben, i did ask him, i wasn't aware they'd be finished cabinets, my impression (which is probably wrong) is they were unfinished.

Half of them are raw MDF and have of them are painted Black. They should be available shortly.