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Community => Regional Audiophiles => New England Audio Revolution => Topic started by: neekomax on 27 Aug 2011, 03:47 pm
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Seems to me that what will end up as a tropical storm (at least when it gets to Long Island where I live) is not really worthy of this kind of freak out.
What do you guys think?
(My house has been here since 1890. It was fine in the great hurricane of 1938, so I'm like, meh.)
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Totally overblown ... if you're more than a mile inland, all you'll see if rain and 50-60mph winds max. TV and Govt people just are getting worse and worse with every storm about over-dramatizing.
... I am a Meteorologist btw
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Yeah. I would say so. The news just keeps replaying the same clips and saying its the hurricane to remember. I moved to maine from hawaii a year ago and I have dealt with many types of natural disasters there, earthquakes, tsunami's, hurricanes etc and everytime it was always blown out of porportion. Better safe than sorry they say but I think at least here in Maine its nothing to worry about. Probbably some rain and wind and downed trees but personally. Ive got a truck so i can go just about anywhere and am armed with plenty of tools to move downed trees or such. Have camping gear at my apartment so I can be pretty self sufficient. I did get a case of water and fill my truck up with gas however before I saw how inland it is predicted to go by the time it gets here...
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Well, I'm about 1/4 mile inland from a bay, but I still am not worried at all. We get Nor'easters every year that blow hard. The trees are pretty well naturally selected by now. Flooding is probably the biggest concern, but unless we get a 20 ft. storm surge, I think it will be minimal.
Got a full tank of gas, and have plenty of food. Don't think I'll need any of it, though.
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I hate television and very rarely watch. Stations will do anything for ratings. The amount of poop that spits out of the tube, the effort, time and money spent making and watching this insanity amazes me almost as much as the millions of people that scoop it up. What a complete waste of time and humanity. What a stupid world we live in. Rant over. :(
Check out this idiot. He is to be applauded according to the sensationalist talking head at the studio. :roll:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/44297707#44297707
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I hate television and very rarely watch. Stations will do anything for ratings. The amount of poop that spits out of the tube, the effort, time and money spent making and watching this insanity amazes me almost as much as the millions of people that scoop it up. What a complete waste of time and humanity. What a stupid world we live in. Rant over. :(
Check out this idiot. He is to be applauded according to the sensationalist talking head at the studio. :roll:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/44297707#44297707
:lol: Hahahahaha, that is so ridiculous. Send some dude to the beach during a hurricane to show how bad it is. Why don't they send him out onto the ocean in a rowboat? Maybe attach him to a weather balloon, see what it's like at 10,000 feet? Now that would be worthy of some applause.
They're showing that dude because unless you're on the beach, it's just not that bad.
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Based on what NY will prob get, I do think it's overblown but unfortunately I live right on the water in SE Long Island. My only concern is the storm surge/flooding that will occur with a new moon high tide. I also have no generator. Bottom line > Inland Hilton hotel here I come.
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Based on what NY will prob get, I do think it's overblown but unfortunately I live right on the water in SE Long Island. My only concern is the storm surge/flooding that will occur with a new moon high tide. I also have no generator. Bottom line > Inland Hilton hotel here I come.
True, could be a problem right on the water. Best of luck to you.
I'm in Sag Harbor, by the way... you?
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True, could be a problem right on the water. Best of luck to you.
I'm in Sag Harbor, by the way... you?
I'm South Bellmore. Bout 1.5 miles south of the main road (Merrick rd) With a boat on a lift strapped down to the lift itself and the poles that go down into the earth. And everything cept furniture that is valuable is on the second floor, which of course includes all my gear :wink:
The more overblown it ends up being, the happier I will be!
This house survived Gloria in '85 and that was a Cat 2 so I think I'm good.
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NOAA claims the winds are 85 MPH, but none of the Weather Underground stations in the area report higher than 33 MPH winds. By definition, this is not a hurricane – and is just barely a tropical storm.
http://stevengoddard.wordpress.com/2011/08/27/noaas-phony-hurricane-coming-on-shore-with-33-mph-winds/
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Is the Hurricane hype/panic a bit... 'overblown'?
I guess we'll find out in 24 hours.....good luck and..
.................keep those "brews" cold... :lol: :beer:
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I'm in S. Jersey on the east side of Rt9 in Little Egg Harbor Township.
We just got a MANDATORY EVACUATION request from our OEM "officials" :o.
I know most of these guys and believe me they seriously over rate their importance :roll:.
All the important stuff is on the second floor and we have plenty of water,ice,wine,food,and batteries.
Come on Irene!.....
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I don't know; our power has been out at least seven times in a year's time span. Twice, long enough we had to throw away food. We have no generator. It's been a wet August. The trees are ripe for dropping like flies, and I have a ton of trees all over the place. Winds even near 60 mph with 8+ inches of rain could be a recipe for a long time without power. We'll see.
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Being a resident of coastal Alabama, I have lived through many hurricanes including Katrina. If you're far enough inland, flooding shouldn't be a concern. Storm surges can be 20+ feet easily. Irene is a large but rather weak hurricane. You'll mainly worry about wind/flying debris damage.
The part of the hurricane that really sucks is afterwards when you're out of power for up to a week and all the stores are still closed. My power was out for 4 days after Katrina and it is HOT in south Alabama. In those cases, minimize driving because any open gas station you'll be able to find will have a LONG line of cars.
The best part comes about way later when your home owner's insurance company decides it needs to recoup their money and they jack up your rates or drop you all together. Despite never making one claim on my home owner's insurance, I can attest to the fact that you are not in good hands, with Allstate.
Kevin T
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I'm in rural NH and find the slow moving and rain drenching Hurricane 1 level storm concerning. There's an abundance of pine and other trees on the five acre property (as well as the town road that I and the neighbors drive), some near the house, and sustained high winds / lots and lots of water / shallow pine roots & bruised branches do not mix. Three years ago an ice storm brought down a few trees on the house, including a huge pine that broke all three chimney flues - needed the entire chimney replaced, (as well as some rear roof pieces that were damaged by another tree - not to mention the 6-7 other trees downed that blocked the driveway, etc).
So, we're ok w/generator, lots of food, fuel to run the generator for four days before needing to get more, a chainsaw, etc. However, who knows how many trees will be downed, when power and commo will come back up, when roads closed due to water and downed trees / powerlines will be opened, etc. Anyway, that's my take on this.
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Frankly, I hope Irene weakens significantly before it hits NYC and Boston, but I fear this is not the case. Trees can readily come down in 50 mph sustained winds so IMO this is not too overblown. I prepared ahead by filling the car full with gas and purchasing 4 days of non-perishable food. Let's hope for the best outcome.
Cheers,
John
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Let it rain. I'm home listening to music with a Honda generator all gased up. Maybe I can find hurricane music on Youtube. :lol:
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I'm South Bellmore. Bout 1.5 miles south of the main road (Merrick rd) With a boat on a lift strapped down to the lift itself and the poles that go down into the earth. And everything cept furniture that is valuable is on the second floor, which of course includes all my gear :wink:
The more overblown it ends up being, the happier I will be!
This house survived Gloria in '85 and that was a Cat 2 so I think I'm good.
Hey Berto -- we got the mandatory evacuation as well in Massapequa. I'm NOT going! The "eye" is forecasted to go over Long Beach... My house survived Gloria as well... as long as the storm surge behaves, my gear should be safe :thumb: ... if not, I've got giant HD plastic bags for the speakers & the amps & other gear heads to the attic!
Be safe -- Pete
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It's better to be safe than sorry.
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I think the doubters should put their money where their mouth is and stand outside with a ripped shirt and crazed look in their eye shouting "IS THIS ALL YOU'VE GOT! COME AT ME YOU SUNAVABITCH!!!"
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I think the doubters should put their money where their mouth is and stand outside with a ripped shirt and crazed look in their eye shouting "IS THIS ALL YOU'VE GOT! COME AT ME YOU SUNAVABITCH!!!"
now that'd be a hurricane utube video. :lol:
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Overblown? I guess we'll find out when it actually hits. I'd love to be able to see the future but I can't.
-Jim
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I think the doubters should put their money where their mouth is and stand outside with a ripped shirt and crazed look in their eye shouting "IS THIS ALL YOU'VE GOT! COME AT ME YOU SUNAVABITCH!!!"
Hey Pez:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=50567)
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Our society is getting less and less tolerate of risk. Air bags, seat belts, bicycle helmets, insurance for everything...
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I was going to say this one is totally overblown but my track record of predicting these things is not so hot. I recall saying the same thing about Katrina before it hit...just sayin'.
Good luck everyone. I hope this is overblown because that means no one gets hurt or has major property damage. My company is in New Jersey and lots of people went home early on Friday because they were concerned about the weather situation (not to be confused with the other Situation in NJ.).
Cheers,
J
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My only concern is the amount of rain that will get dumped into the Susguehanna river as the storm will track up the river. The big flood of 2006 was the result of a front sitting on us dumping upwards of 15 inces of rain in some areas of the river. I know it will not be as bad as 2006 but flooding is a concern for us up here in the Binghamton area even though we are acouple hundred miles from the coast.
Not sure how much rain will come from this as I have seen anywhere from 4-9 inches depending on what channel you are watching.
Another concern is the winds that will come tomorrow after a soaking rain all night. The ground will get soft and trees coming down could take power out.
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I am in NJ, and the rain is pretty intense. We lost power briefly for about 5 minutes so far, and with this rain pounding down on the grass for the next twelve hours, I won't be shocked if we lost power again for a longer period of time.
I also agree with what Bill said here about the tress falling. I live in the woods, and I am truly dreading a tree falling down onto my house as they are not far enough away to miss my house if they choose to fall.
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I recall heavy flooding along the Susquehanna after Hurricane Agnes (?) in '72. A lot of Harrisburg near the river was deeply flooded. I saw rail lines with just the tops of trains sticking out of the water.
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CNN website says 9 dead so far. That serious enough for ya? 'course maybe they're the one's who stand outside shouting 'bring it on'.
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I recall heavy flooding along the Susquehanna after Hurricane Agnes (?) in '72. A lot of Harrisburg near the river was deeply flooded. I saw rail lines with just the tops of trains sticking out of the water.
My grandparents lived in Mocanaqua, about 300 yds up from the Susquehanna. They got a new furnace because their basement was almost totally filled with mud, etc. - mucho destruction.
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In ct, no power, variable winds, many branches down, running on battery.
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Oh yeah, lots of rain, front yard flooded.
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Been up since 5AM today. The lower Lakes regions of NH is getting the wind / rain banding with incrementally increasing intensity. Still have lots of time until the bad stuff gets here.
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We lost power about an hour ago. We too have variable winds and driving rains. Some flash flooding already. Watching the small creek up the road and the larger Nanticoke Creek about a 100 yards from the shop. Only takes a couple downed trees to create havoc in these creeks and flood whole neighborhoods including my shop.
Whenever there is even one death, that's serious enough. Now up to 10 dead. Be carefull out there and don't take anything for granted. Mother Nature is unpredictable.
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Just had one of my trees go down and nearly hit the neighbor's house. Winds might not be hurricane level, but they are still pretty strong.
Hopefully this is the worst thing that happens today.
George
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No power for the last 6 hours, 4 trees down, fencing smashed, pool overflowed, and a retaining wall sunk.
I think I'll take a nap now.
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So far so good, but we have another eight hours of relatively high wind. My main concern at this time are trees going down that are next to my or my neighbor's homes.
Hope that everyone is safe.
Best,
John
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You all be safe.
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Haven't seen too many Overblown comments today.
Jersey got pounded overnite and that was from a weakened storm. My sump ran so hard it shut off and we had 8 inches of water in the basement within a half hour with a submersible pump running and 4 of us bailing. Thankfully the sump restarted and we never lost power. Tried to go to sleep around 4 a.m. and wind gusts keep freaking me out.
Still very windy and looks like a little wrap around rain is coming down now.
Silver lining. Just got a call from work. No power in all of Morristown, so no work tomorrow. Woo Hoo.
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The truth is that the dire warning beforehand suited both politicians and journalists. Just as with the minor earthquake that shook the east coast last week causing no loss of life and virtually no damage, Irene became a huge story because it was where the media lived...
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100102355/perfect-storm-of-hype-politicians-the-media-and-the-hurricane-irene-apocalypse-that-never-was/
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Looks like I was one of the lucky individuals. I still have my power and there are not large limbs or trees down on my property. I dodged a bullet this time around. Irene has definitely made me reconsider the logic of havings trees close to the house; over the next few weeks I will probably have a few removed or trimmed.
Best,
John
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A few comments:
I'm astounded by the large number of people who apparently think storm intensities, sizes, and paths can be predicted with perfect accuracy, especially if it's a meteorologist.
If I were responsible for preparing the public for a probable disaster, I would ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be sure to err on the side of safety.
Anyone who can predict storms better than the current experts, please tell us how to do it!
I don't think any of those who lost their homes or their loved ones are complaining about the predictions.
So far as I know, no one was forced to leave their homes, even where there were mandatory evacuation orders.
I, for one, am hugely pleased that so many got through the storm safely.
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Well, I'm the OP‚ and the irony is that it's the second day here without power, and 40% of our rather large county is in the same boat. :duh:
Words officially eaten.
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We lost our power on Sat night and just got it back :D. No real damage here except a slight hangover :icon_lol: Almost back to normal :thumb:
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The truth is that the dire warning beforehand suited both politicians and journalists. Just as with the minor earthquake that shook the east coast last week causing no loss of life and virtually no damage, Irene became a huge story because it was where the media lived...
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/tobyharnden/100102355/perfect-storm-of-hype-politicians-the-media-and-the-hurricane-irene-apocalypse-that-never-was/
Perhaps, but had it turned into another Katrina situation it would have been a huge mess. And if nothing else it served notice to New Yawkers that someday they're gonna be screwed. Concerns about N.O. being in a bowl were known for years, and few did anything about it. Imagine a Category 3 storm being funneled up the Hudson river. That's a similar geographical liability that's gonna happen eventually.
I wonder what it would cost to have a some huge corks built to keep the NYC tunnels free of water?
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My folks received some damage to their house in seacost NH in a neighborhood of old homes (mostly 19th century). But really just due to the fact that the neighbor does not take care of their trees. Still a bummer. Glad to hear New Englanders are for the most part safe and sound.
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I always hate to see those storms as they come in because "someone" is going to have some bad days...some...loss of property and some, even loss of life. I'm thankful it wasn't worse than it was. FWIW...I have come to believe that "how bad it is" often is determined by whether it impacts someone personally or not. Sad, but true.
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Just down the street from me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6tE1efT2Ws
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There was a lot of pre-storm hype.
But at about one a.m. on Sunday morning we had Hurricane force winds.
So we were believers at that point.
It took me all day Sunday to move the tree limbs away from my house.
We also had no power until very late yesterday.
Fortunately, we had no damage to the house or shed from the winds.
Eastern Virginia got hammered and tragically, there was loss of life.
The Earthquake earlier in the week did more damage to my home than the Hurricane.
James
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My folks received some damage to their house in seacost NH in a neighborhood of old homes (mostly 19th century). But really just due to the fact that the neighbor does not take care of their trees. Still a bummer. Glad to hear New Englanders are for the most part safe and sound.
Safe...yes.
However, I have friends from southern NH, RI, and around the Hopkinton, MA area that are still without power and might not have it restored until later in the week.
I can only imagine how bad it would have been had Irene maintained her hurricane status when it reached us in New England.
George
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Better safe than sorry!!
Err on the side of caution.
Survival should trump convenience ---- even if it means cheating you out of your Darwin moment.
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Here on Long Island, we're getting word that it could be up to six days before we get power restored.
Bummer. :|
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90% of the people/homes in my town are still without power (we lost ours about 5am Saturday morning and still don't have it; I drove to Massachusetts to another home that has power, though only 50% of the homes here do!). My work location had no power today and in that town, 60% are without power. Go to connecticut light and power and look at how many towns have 100% without power! It's shocking.
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Got our power back on Monday AM, got internet / phone / cable back Tuesday evening. About 30% of my town still w/o power, I can hear the generators running. Lent my generator to my boss so at least we can help out one family in town. Had one fatal in NH, may he rest in peace.
The mid / upper Lakes region, and especially northern NH, got hammered. Flooding has taken out huge chunks of the "Kank", the legendary road that is a favorite for leaf peepers. It'll be a few months before that's repaired. Plymouth and the state college there have expansive flooding, as do other similarly located towns. Unbelievable.
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74% of my town still without power. I lost power Saturday morning at 5am; that's 4 days without power so far. I'm working from a home in Mass., because I can't have two young children at home with no refrigeration, running water, etc.
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Still no power at my house. I'm one of the last 9% in my town without power. 159,000 people still without power in CT from CL&P.
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Still no power at my house. I'm one of the last 9% in my town without power. 159,000 people still without power in CT from CL&P.
Sorry to hear that Bob.
George
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Is the Hurricane hype/panic a bit... 'overblown'?
I guess we'll find out in 24 hours.....good luck and..
.................keep those "brews" cold... :lol: :beer:
Six days no electric....finally back on line !!
(http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/v/van-morrison/album-too-long-in-exile.jpg)
Too long for sure..... :nono:
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I was told my power would be out until Monday. That's more than a week for me. No water, no lights, no refrigeration, all the food has been thrown out. I did get a seasons worth of firewood out of the storm. Thank goodness the temperature has been nice because we don't have AC or heat.
The kids were supposed to start school last Tuesday but the first week has been cancelled. They're happy.
Joe M.