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Community => Non-audio hobbies and interests => Health and Fitness => Topic started by: PhilNYC on 5 Apr 2010, 08:08 pm
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Since there was a lot of activity in the "Bicycling Off-Road" thread, thought I'd put up an on-the-road version....
Road-bikers...what was your last ride? Mine was a solo ride from Closter, NJ to Bear Mountain and back...56.58miles, 3h16m ride time, 17.2mph avg, 1890ft total ascent...
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Just started back commuting to the office - 4 days last week, and hopefully the same this week. Probably 8 miles each way.
Jim C
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I'll take some pictures next week. Also, let's get some bike pix going! Yesterday's ride was the toughest I have ever been on. The Sunday group is much more experienced and way faster than I'm used to riding. There was also a brutal 20+mph headwind (on the way out) to contend with. Thankfully we rode in a paceline for most of the trip. A group of 9 riders traveled through the country roads just west of my house. Although I had 100 miles total in the bank earlier this week (Wed-Sat), my legs are still sore from Sunday's ride.
Totals: 44.5miles, 2h29m total time, 17.87mph avg.
Phil, your ride time was very impressive considering it was a hilly, solo ride. If I did not have the advantage of a large group (for drafting and encouragement/inspiration) it would have taken me much longer. I spent most of the ride glued to someone else's wheel.
I bought new tires (Conti GP4000's) and hope to install them tonight. They are cool looking and I hope they are flat resistant. My current tires are not bad at all (Bonti Race XXXLite AC's) but I want to try something different. My Bonti's are soft over bumps (they are 25mm's) and the new Conti's are 23mm's. I'm hoping they make the ride a bit less grueling.
Cheers,
J
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=28619)
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On Friday I joined a friend for a ride from town up to the top of one of our local mountains. It's basically a 4000' climb in 19 miles, 2450' in the last 8.5 miles. It was unusually warm at 84º though cooler near the summit. There was a bit of haze in the air from a forest fire.
On the long climb.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_2949new-1.jpg)
The last of the snow on the roadside as we near the top.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_2951new.jpg)
In the parking lot at the top.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_2954new.jpg)
38 miles roundtrip, 3 hours ride time, 4000' elevation gain.
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47 miles in about 2 hours and 20 minutes.
Here I am after a century last summer.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=28628)
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I'll take some pictures next week. Also, let's get some bike pix going! Yesterday's ride was the toughest I have ever been on. The Sunday group is much more experienced and way faster than I'm used to riding. There was also a brutal 20+mph headwind (on the way out) to contend with. Thankfully we rode in a paceline for most of the trip. A group of 9 riders traveled through the country roads just west of my house. Although I had 100 miles total in the bank earlier this week (Wed-Sat), my legs are still sore from Sunday's ride.
Totals: 44.5miles, 2h29m total time, 17.87mph avg.
Phil, your ride time was very impressive considering it was a hilly, solo ride. If I did not have the advantage of a large group (for drafting and encouragement/inspiration) it would have taken me much longer. I spent most of the ride glued to someone else's wheel.
I bought new tires (Conti GP4000's) and hope to install them tonight. They are cool looking and I hope they are flat resistant. My current tires are not bad at all (Bonti Race XXXLite AC's) but I want to try something different. My Bonti's are soft over bumps (they are 25mm's) and the new Conti's are 23mm's. I'm hoping they make the ride a bit less grueling.
Cheers,
J
We have a local ride near me called the Rocket Ride out of Nyack, NY. Basically, every Sunday morning for the last 30 years, a group of guys go out on a 50 mile ride (40 miles in the winter) as fast as they can...they wait for no one, so if you lose the pack, you're basically toast. The ride is mostly flat until the last 2 miles where there is a pretty big climb which really separates the men from the boys. There are some pro riders who have joined the group, and depending on the weather, the peloton can reach 60+ riders (and local traffic bows to their right-of-way)...and there is nothing like the feeling of riding in a big pack like that! I've not yet done the full ride...tried it for the first time late last year and got dropped at about mile 35. Went this past Sunday and was feeling really strong, but unfortunately got a flat at about 16 miles into it (and there was no way I was ever going to catch up with the group). If I was to guess at the average speed of this ride over the entire 50 miles, I would guess it would be around 26-27 mph....
Here's a little more detail on it: http://www.bicycling.com/article/0,6610,s1-2-13-20325-1,00.html
As far as tires go, I was a die-hard Michelin Pro2 Race user, then went to the Pro3 when it came out...loved it, but they wore out very fast (had to change them every 1200 miles). Then tried the Vittoria Open Corsa CX and had similar results. On the recommendation of my local bike store, I most recently tried the Vredestein Fortezza TriComp, and despite my aforementioned flat during the Rocket Ride this past weekend, I've found them to be very durable, and nearly as light and roll as well as my old Pro2's....
Btw - I ride a Spectrum Titanium Super road bike with Shimano Dura-Ace (8-spd)... 8)
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That Nyack ride looks amazing. I've got customers in CT and get out to NY once in a while but it's too hard to bring a bike. I may bring my wife and make a weekend out of it (and rent a ride) to give the Rocket a shot. Since I've been riding, I'm below 200lbs for the first time in YEARS, but I still need to lose another 25-30 lbs to be able to hang with the fast group in my area. Also, as a recent (August) ex-smoker, my cardio is improving but not where I'd like it to be.
I'm riding every day and pushing myself to become a faster cyclist. The changes are rewarding. Hills that required my middle ring (I still have a triple because I'm too cheap to change it) I can now hammer out on the big ring and riders who would routinely drop me are having to work a lot harder. Last Sunday was humbling because I thought I overestimated my level of improvement and could not hang with the fast guys on climbs.
Probikekit.com has a sale on Michelin tires and the USA15 coupon code still works for an additional 15% off. Just enter it in the coupon line at checkout and make sure it's in dollars. Last time I ordered they had free shipping. I don't know how they do it but they are half the price of local places. Still do most of my shopping at LBS's but it's hard to pass up the PBK deals.
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That Nyack ride looks amazing. I've got customers in CT and get out to NY once in a while but it's too hard to bring a bike. I may bring my wife and make a weekend out of it (and rent a ride) to give the Rocket a shot. Since I've been riding, I'm below 200lbs for the first time in YEARS, but I still need to lose another 25-30 lbs to be able to hang with the fast group in my area. Also, as a recent (August) ex-smoker, my cardio is improving but not where I'd like it to be.
What size bike do you ride? I ride a 56cm, so you could always borrow one of mine...and you and I sound like we're in similar boats (ex-smoker, was 200lbs+ until getting serious on the bike a little over a year ago...am 185lbs now with a target weight of 180lbs)...
Probikekit.com has a sale on Michelin tires and the USA15 coupon code still works for an additional 15% off. Just enter it in the coupon line at checkout and make sure it's in dollars. Last time I ordered they had free shipping. I don't know how they do it but they are half the price of local places. Still do most of my shopping at LBS's but it's hard to pass up the PBK deals.
My LBS treats me pretty well...discounts on most stuff, occasional free adjustments, general good karma...so the only stuff I really go online for is clothing (my LBS doesn't have a great selection for that). Small store, but really friendly and knowledgeable guys...one of the few places locally where they build custom wheels and stuff like that (just rebuilt my wheels with new rims for me last month and did a great job...) :thumb:
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What size bike do you ride? I ride a 56cm, so you could always borrow one of mine...and you and I sound like we're in similar boats (ex-smoker, was 200lbs+ until getting serious on the bike a little over a year ago...am 185lbs now with a target weight of 180lbs)...
My LBS treats me pretty well...discounts on most stuff, occasional free adjustments, general good karma...so the only stuff I really go online for is clothing (my LBS doesn't have a great selection for that). Small store, but really friendly and knowledgeable guys...one of the few places locally where they build custom wheels and stuff like that (just rebuilt my wheels with new rims for me last month and did a great job...) :thumb:
Hi Phil,
We are more alike than I thought! I pretty much buy everything except clothing from my LBS, an independent family-owned place in my town. They are great about fittings and helping with minor tuneup issues. They don't carry Continental so I didn't feel guilty about the GP's. Plus, I spent a small fortune there over the past year on bike stuff.
I'm a 56cm size also but I'm heavier than you at 195lbs (down from 230lbs) and my goal is 170lbs, but I'd settle for 185 any day! Haven't touched a smoke since I started riding. Not many road cycling smokers!
From my years of MTB riding, I'm very light on the bike. My MTB wheels (handmade XTR hubs, DT Swiss spokes and Mavic rims) are 10 years old and still perfectly true, and the Bontrager Race wheels on my road bike are still perfect. I've heard horror stories about the Bonty's double spoke design but so far, so good. I hope they break within the warranty period so I can replace them with the newer models which are supposed to be much better.
What kind of wheels did you get? There is a local guy near my town who builds wheels for the local racers. He even sponsors a team and is opening a shop. I'm going to have him build me a set using Kinlin 30mm rims, silver brass nips, DT Swiss (or CXRays) Comp spokes and White Industries hubs. The total delivered cost is $525 for the set, including skewers and they weigh a bit over 1540g's. When you have a chance, please post a picture of your bike (closeup) that shows the wheels. You have some awesome bikes!
Cheers,
J
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For my rims, I got Velocity Fusions: http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=538
My wheels prior were Zipp 530 aero rims with Chris King hubs...had them for 15 years (although as mentioned, I had stopped riding for about 10 years, got back on the bike 3 years ago and really bumped up the riding a year ago) and ended up cracking the rear rim about 2 months ago. Replaced both rims because I wanted them to match...but because my front hub is an 18-spoke hub, my rim choices were limited. Research led me to either the Fusions or the Kinlin XR-300, and my LBS had more experience building with Velocity rims (they had never worked with Kinlin). Spokes are DT Swiss Competitions. The resulting wheels are significantly lighter and stiffer than my Zipps...was expecting the lighter, but the stiffer surprised me.... :thumb: Paid $289+tax for the rims, spokes, and labor...
Will take pictures and post them later!
My mtb wheels use Mavic ceramic rims and Ringle hubs. They are 15+ years old and are still true, but my LBS includes wheel-truing in their tune-ups, so I can't say that the original wheel builder did anything particularly amazing...!
What kind of pedals do you use? I have Time RXS Carbons on my Spectrum, and old/classic Time Equips on my Cinelli and Colnago...
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For my rims, I got Velocity Fusions: http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=538
My wheels prior were Zipp 530 aero rims with Chris King hubs...had them for 15 years (although as mentioned, I had stopped riding for about 10 years, got back on the bike 3 years ago and really bumped up the riding a year ago) and ended up cranking the rear rim about 2 months ago. Replaced both rims because I wanted them to match...but because my front hub is an 18-spoke hub, my rim choices were limited. Research led me to either the Fusions or the Kinlin XR-300, and my LBS had more experience building with Velocity rims (they had never worked with Kinlin). Spokes are DT Swiss Competitions. The resulting wheels are significantly lighter and stiffer than my Zipps...was expecting the lighter, but the stiffer surprised me.... :thumb: Paid $289+tax for the rims, spokes, and labor...
Will take pictures and post them later!
My mtb wheels use Mavic ceramic rims and Ringle hubs. They are 15+ years old and are still true, but my LBS includes wheel-truing in their tune-ups, so I can't say that the original wheel builder did anything particularly amazing...!
What kind of pedals do you use? I have Time RXS Carbons on my Spectrum, and old/classic Time Equips on my Cinelli and Colnago...
Hey, that's a great price for wheels. Did you use your old hubs? CK hubs are very cool, as are all Chris King components. Our wheels are pretty similar. Rob, my builder, uses Kinlin rims and my wheels will have XR-300's, he recommends DT Swiss Competition spokes but I'm going to get a price on CX-Rays. The White Industries hubs are very cool and better looking in person. I'm getting H2 front and H3 rear. The price of $525 is fair, when you consider the hubs cost about $400 alone. Here is a picture of the rear:
http://www.wheelbuilder.com/store/white-industries-h3-rear-road-hub.html (http://www.wheelbuilder.com/store/white-industries-h3-rear-road-hub.html)
For pedals, I'm still using Shimano SPD road pedals. After the wheels, pedals are my next upgrade. I like these because they are wide platform, single side entry like road shoes but use the SPD clips like MTB pedals. I'm comfortable getting in and out of these and have no knee issues. My neighbor is giving me some new Ultregra pedals to try out but I need to get new shoes because my current ones are not compatable. I'm hoping to get some new shoes this weekend so I can test the new pedals. Other than float and ease of entry and exit, do you notice a big difference between the pedals you have tested? I'm a real novice in this area and the only pedals I have ever tried are the ones on the bike.
Cheers,
J
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Yes, I used my old hubs...Chris King and Phil Wood make the best hubs out there imho (and White Industries makes some great stuff too!), although I think the days of custom wheels are going to be history soon with so many great complete wheelsets being produced. Phil Wood passed away last month, so part of me wants to get a Phil Wood-based wheelset just to have them. Btw - I have a White Industries bottom bracket on my mtb...
The only road pedals I've tried are the Times that I mentioned and the Look Keos. The differences between the Keo and the Time RXS are pretty minimal (similar-sized platform, similar-feeling connection, etc), but the price/weight ratio seemed to show the Times to be a better value. Note, however, that Time replacement cleats are more expensive than Look cleats...haven't had to replace mine yet, but something to think about. Have not tried the SPD road pedals, although one of my riding buddies has the Ultegra pedals...he loves them compared to the Speedplays he had before (Speedplays have very little in terms of platform size). I will say that my friends who have the Look Keos seem to have the easiest time engaging the pedal. I use SPDs on my mountain bike and enjoy them...but the connection does not seem as solid as my Time road pedals.
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Thanks for the advice. I like the looks of CK hubs and the durability is world class but I don't think their rear hub is compatable with an 11 speed and I may want to upgrade down the road. And the King hub is very loud. Not a big deal but it's something to think about. The H3 is White's newest design and is also made in USA like the King. Either way you have awesome wheels.
Thanks for the pedal advice. I'm not crazy about my pedals but I'm used to SPD from my MTB riding. My neighbor has Speedplay pedals, along with several guys in my group. They seem to like them a lot and they are double sided so they don't have some of the problems I have with my single sided pedals. I'll see how the Ultegras work out compared to mine. My neighbor hates the Ultegra pedals so I could get them pretty cheap if they work for me.
Cheers,
J
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Here's my bike with the new wheels:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=28693)
Here's what it looked like before with my old Zipp rims:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=15921)
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Nice ride! Those wheels look great. If it clears up, I am going to try to get 25 miles in tonight.
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Am very sorry to say I have virtually no miles in so far this year. The days that have been nice, work called. The rest, rain. Gave up on rollers and trainers many blue moons ago.
Great looking ride Phil. Tom's bikes have always been on my lust list.
I've been egging Jack on to get ride of that "sissy" triple :wink:, and get a new bike.
Jack - anytime you want to try out a set of tubular wheels just holler.
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Am very sorry to say I have virtually no miles in so far this year. The days that have been nice, work called. The rest, rain. Gave up on rollers and trainers many blue moons ago.
Great looking ride Phil. Tom's bikes have always been on my lust list.
I've been egging Jack on to get ride of that "sissy" triple :wink:, and get a new bike.
Jack - anytime you want to try out a set of tubular wheels just holler.
You have some of the nicest bikes I have ever seen. Tubulars are wasted on me because I would have no idea what to do if I flatted. Don't want to be messin' with no glue. I'm getting lots of miles in (I must say!) but still not as fast as the fast guys in my group. Not even close! They are very fast and remind me how far I have to go every time we hit a hill or a bad headwind. I keep coming back for more and love cycling more than ever. Also love my C'Dale jersey! Thanks!
J
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That's the nice thing about sewups, as a last precaution you can always ride yourself home on a flat.
Don't sell yourself short Jack. Many cannot ride for 2 hours at all, let alone at 17/18/19 mph.
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Got in 66 miles and 5400' of climbing today in a little over 4 hours of ride time. My fat, lazy winter indulged body wasn't ready for 4 hours on the bike. I'm a little sore. Beautiful day that started cool and ended around 70º.
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Got in 66 miles and 5400' of climbing today in a little over 4 hours of ride time. My fat, lazy winter indulged body wasn't ready for 4 hours on the bike. I'm a little sore. Beautiful day that started cool and ended around 70º.
That's awesome. I rode a very fast 45 miles with my group today. Not sure I rode fast (very strong wind on the way out) but the guys whose wheels I was glued to rode fast! On the way back, the headwind became a strong tailwind and my large upper body acted like a huge sail! We averaged 28mph over some long stretches.
It felt good passing so many Freds on really fancy bikes. There was a team of guys wearing all red, on red bikes with red water bottles. With over 30 miles in the bank, it was fun to pass them up. This is the first day around here where we saw tons of riders. There were even lots of women training for an upcoming triathelon. Best ride of the year, so far!
Cheers,
J
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Oh yeah, well I got in about 5 miles and climbed 500 feet! Yeah! :eyebrows:
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Another 45 miles today. Similar route as yesterday but with a larger group that included 3 time-trial bikes, and one female rider. She joined our group with her husband after we completed 8 miles. A bit of a loudmouth and built like a skeletal POW, she was very fast on the bike and had no problem staying with the fast group. The fast group finished at least 10 minutes earlier than my group.
Today was one of the most difficult rides ever for me. I pushed it as hard as I could but didn't have the legs after yesteday's ride. Plus, unlike yesterday, we had a fierce headwind on the return ride (yesterday we had a strong tailwind on our return) and I was out of gas for the last 10 miles. One bright spot was my new tires, Continental GP4000s! They rolled faster than my older Bonty tires and even though they are 23mm width (versus 25mm for the Bontragers) they rode much more smoother. Also, the Continental tires had excellent traction over a downhill S-curve section I took at +30mph.
Rides like today's are rewarding because they really show how far I have to go in terms of fitness and performance. Need to address some bad saddle sores but I'll be back on the bike Tuesday at the latest.
Cheers!
J
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Here is some cool info on hubs! I'm going for a ride later tonight and look forward to a fast 35 miles or so. Need to get ready for some long rides on Sat and Sunday this weekend. It's absolutely beautiful outside and I hope the wind is at my back on the way home!
Last ride, a short 23 miles on Tuesday night, we had a brutal headwind on the way out followed by a beautiful tailwind on the way home. There were stretches where we averaged 28mph+ and caught every green light. So far, I enjoy my weekday training rides much more than my weekend torture rides. Need to get faster to keep up with the fast weekend group but it's not happening soon enough. Hills and headwinds are killing me. Any advice is always appreciated.
http://fairwheelbikes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=6940 (http://fairwheelbikes.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=6940)
Cheers,
J
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This isn't exactly road riding but since the trail was paved and the tires were skinny it goes here. :lol:
Last night was my second evening ride of the season and somewhat of a disappointment. I normally ride a recumbent but in the summer I pull my Merlin off the rack and do fast (for me) 18-25 miles (depends on daylight) Thursday evening rides with a buddy. This tradition is 10+ years old.
First ride of the season the evening was cool and there was a strong wind but I felt strong and actually wanted my ride buddy to pick up the pace at the end. I wanted more and faster. Woohooo, way to start the upright season. Last night was a different story. The weather was colder and just as windy. I never got warm and suffered the entire ride. Saddle sores from last week made themselves known and I ran out of gas despite eating the same pre-ride snacks as last week. I hate when that happens.
But it was not a total bust. I saw about a dozen wild Tom turkeys and probably 30+ deer including one that wanted to play chicken with me. I won. :o Another cyclist pulled into the parking area just as we were starting to load our bikes and head for teriyaki (another tradition). He reported seeing a bobcat take out a ground squirrel at an area we had passed just minutes before. This is probably the first time I have ever wished I rode slower.
That is the first time I have heard of a bobcat on the trail. I have seen coyotes and a fox but never a bobcat. I ride on the American River bike trail in Sacramento. It is a green belt and flood plain in an urban setting. The trail runs 30+ miles and the upper terminus is a man-made reservoir that receives the three forks of the American River. The area between the forks is wild and extends to Desolation Wilderness in the Sierra Nevada mountains by Lake Tahoe.
That is where the bobcat migrated from. Occasionally (every 5-10 years) we get a puma in the cravice (Tommy Smothers reference) that follows the rivers down to the bike trail area. That is usually a young male with no territory of his own. A mountain lion would have a feast now. Last winter large areas of the green belt were fenced off to keep the deer out while the areas are planted with native oak species to repair the damage done by gold mining and farming. The deer are now concentrated which accounts for my sighting double the normal evening count of previous years.
On another ride I saw an osprey take a large salmon out of the river just a few yards from a boat with two open-mouthed fishermen. The osprey circled with the salmon before flying away. It gave a short cry that I interpreted as mocking the fishless fishermen. During the spring and fall salmon runs vultures congregate and can be seen circling the trail. Those are the days I really wish I could ride faster.
:cuss: Hey you stupid birds. I'm not dead! I just have a flat tire!
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=18105)
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Our ride today took us just to the left of this forest fire. It was an otherwise beautiful day in the mid 60s.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_2970.jpg)
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Took my kids on vacation for spring break last week, which put about 9 days between my last ride and yesterday's ride. Amazing how such a short time can wipe out so much conditioning...30 miles on a rolling-hill route at a decent speed (avg 19mph). I was breathing heavy for virtually the entire ride! Hopefully it won't take long to re-establish my conditioning...
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We "The Weekday Cyclists" did a perimeter ride of Staten Island. 75miles on my Merlin XLM. :thumb:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/30158606
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North Carolina has one of the nicest places to ride bikes on and off-road.
Our ride today took us just to the left of this forest fire. It was an otherwise beautiful day in the mid 60s.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_2970.jpg)
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North Carolina has one of the nicest places to ride bikes on and off-road.
I think we do. WNC is cycling heaven as long as you don't mind climbing.
Here's a photo from yesterday's ride. I rode NealH's bike up this climb after I picked it up from the LBS for him. lol Just had to test out the Tarmac SL3.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_2963.jpg)
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Nice. I may have to visit NC soon to ride my bike. :)
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So jealous. All I have here is flat, flat, and more flat. Let alone the "housing" scenery is a little lacking too.
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FWIW, if any of you 'road guys' are interested I have a 'like new' Cannondale SR-800 For Sale.
PM me if interested.
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Hi Dave, is this your ad at Craigslist?
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bik/1696351454.html
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I can't believe how fast some of you guys ride, what was it I was seeing 26-27mph?
Damn, back when I was young and in shape, my goal was 20mph. I'm a really skinny guy, I look more like a marathon runner than a cyclist, so I never had the legs to pound a big gear. But I could climb all day. My cycling mates called me the mountain goat.
I tried a TT once (on a flat course) and thought I could easily do 25mph, but I only managed 23 and was shot at the end.
Cycling certainly gives you a whole new outlook on aerodynamics. It's amazing how much more effort it takes to go only a few more mph or the difference when you are sitting on someone's wheel.
Someone mentioned pedals. I absolutely loved my Ritchey's on my off-road bike. I'd tried a bunch, and they work best for me. If I go back to road, I may still use these.
BTW: I visited Asheville, NC once and my first thought was "This is cycling heaven" That Blue Ridge Parkway is too cool. Great climbs, great scenery and not much motor traffic.
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I can't believe how fast some of you guys ride, what was it I was seeing 26-27mph?
Damn, back when I was young and in shape, my goal was 20mph. I'm a really skinny guy, I look more like a marathon runner than a cyclist, so I never had the legs to pound a big gear. But I could climb all day. My cycling mates called me the mountain goat.
I tried a TT once (on a flat course) and thought I could easily do 25mph, but I only managed 23 and was shot at the end.
Cycling certainly gives you a whole new outlook on aerodynamics. It's amazing how much more effort it takes to go only a few more mph or the difference when you are sitting on someone's wheel.
Someone mentioned pedals. I absolutely loved my Ritchey's on my off-road bike. I'd tried a bunch, and they work best for me. If I go back to road, I may still use these.
BTW: I visited Asheville, NC once and my first thought was "This is cycling heaven" That Blue Ridge Parkway is too cool. Great climbs, great scenery and not much motor traffic.
When you did the TT course, was it on a road bike? And was 23mph your course average or your max speed?
For me, starting out a ride somewhere between 17-19mph is comfortable...anything more feels strenuous. Once I get warmed up (which happens almost like clockwork at 11 miles), I am able to get up to about 24-25mph over sustained periods of time on flats and slightly-rolling courses, but am most comfortable around 21-22mph. The fastest I have gone on a flat in the last few years was 35mph in a full-out sprint against two of my training buddies, and I could only hold that speed for maybe a dozen crank rotations.
Obviously, riding in a pack with stronger riders in the front (like the above-mentioned Nyack Rocket Ride), getting to faster speeds is actually pretty easy. And downhill riding is also a blast..!
But all these efforts really puts into perspective the fact that guys in the Tour De France who win those massive sprints at the end are going somewhere around 48mph.... :notworthy:
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Hi Dave, is this your ad at Craigslist?
http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bik/1696351454.html
yes it is..........
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23mph was my average. I was riding an old steel framed Trek 560 w/ those old school wheels that had way too many spokes.
I think 30mph for a city block was the best I could ever do on a flat out sprint.
Do most of you guys ride rollers? I found it to be great way to learn to pedal in a smoother circular fashion than just mashing up and down. Plus you learn to not wobble around, essential for riding in a pack. Scary the first time you try it.
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Someone mentioned pedals. I absolutely loved my Ritchey's on my off-road bike. I'd tried a bunch, and they work best for me. If I go back to road, I may still use these.
Which Ritchey pedals? I had the old Ti-spindle SPD style. Then Nashbar came out with a pedal that looked the same but had the chrome-moly spindle (also offered by Ritchie). The Nashbar pedals had some float while the original Ritchies did not. I needed some float. I looked at the pics in the Nashbar catalog and scratched my chin-----mmmm, I wonder.
Well I was right. The Ritchey titanium spindles fit perfectly into the Nashbar pedal bodies. The spindles are radically different in shape (taper) but the business ends are the same. I think I had to swap end caps at the same time but I don't remember now. I bought a bunch of the Nashbar pedals at $25 or less a pair and now I have a lifetime supply of bodies and cleats to use with my ti spindles. I use this hybrid pedal on my Merlin and Bacchetta. Surprising the difference in heft (I don't have a scale) when I have the naked spindles in my hand.
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23mph was my average. I was riding an old steel framed Trek 560 w/ those old school wheels that had way too many spokes.
That's a pretty good average! How long was the TT course?
Do most of you guys ride rollers? I found it to be great way to learn to pedal in a smoother circular fashion than just mashing up and down. Plus you learn to not wobble around, essential for riding in a pack. Scary the first time you try it.
I've never used rollers, but I've been pretty good at stroking the cranks thru the full rotation, so I haven't really felt the need. I did recently switch from a magnetic trainer to a fluid trainer. Not sure if I like the fluid trainer...the mag trainer is much harder...ie a much better workout...but the fluid trainer feels more "natural", and I can train high-cadence much more comfortably.
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Which Ritchey pedals? I had the old Ti-spindle SPD style. Then Nashbar came out with a pedal that looked the same but had the chrome-moly spindle (also offered by Ritchie). The Nashbar pedals had some float while the original Ritchies did not. I needed some float. I looked at the pics in the Nashbar catalog and scratched my chin-----mmmm, I wonder.
Well I was right. The Ritchey titanium spindles fit perfectly into the Nashbar pedal bodies. The spindles are radically different in shape (taper) but the business ends are the same. I think I had to swap end caps at the same time but I don't remember now. I bought a bunch of the Nashbar pedals at $25 or less a pair and now I have a lifetime supply of bodies and cleats to use with my ti spindles. I use this hybrid pedal on my Merlin and Bacchetta. Surprising the difference in heft (I don't have a scale) when I have the naked spindles in my hand.
At some point in the past, companies that put out Ti-spindled pedals would list a rider's weight-limit for using those pedals (something around 185lbs). Do they still do that? I'm using steel-spindled pedals because I'm paranoid of Ti-spindle failures...
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Phil,
I have to get in my "way back machine". I think the spindles I am talking about did have a weight limit of 185 pounds. The spindles came out of Rithey pedals that were a tan color. Ritchey sold the same pedals in a different color with chrome-moly spindles. Compared to the chrome-moly spindles, the ti spindles have a very steep taper toward the outside end and then they have a larger diameter bulb at the end where they make contact with the pedal. Scary (fragile) to look at. I am under the weight limit and don't pedal out of the saddle much anyway. On my recumbent I don't peddle out of the saddle at all. :lol:
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I had a pretty nasty crash last Thursday...was on the Rockleigh Criterium "track" (http://www.rockleighcrit.com) giving it a test run. Came out of a turn and tried to accelerate...unfortunately, I lifted my front wheel trying to sprint, and it didn't come straight back down, so I went down at about 22mph. *Really* stupid crash! :duh: Tons of road rash, helmet cracked in 3 places, and some deep bruising in my hip and rib-cage. Went to the doctor for x-rays, which thankfully came back negative. Will probably be off the bike for a week or two, which sucks, because I was going to do the Montauk Century (145miles) on May 16, and this sets my training back... :(
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Hey!
Phil, did you try to do a wheelie with your road bike? :jester:
Anyway, joking a side. Good to know that you are OK. :D Man! You really hit hard with your helmet there :o
I once saw a bike accident in Central Park where a lady on a cruiser bike crashed and a guy was holding her waiting for ambulance. There were some blood coming out of her nose. It wasn't a fast crash too. She was going up hill. Anyway, the sad part about this is that she got her helmet tied up on the rear wheel rack of her bike :?
So, helmet is a must even if you don't ride fast.
Well, take it easy Phil. :D
Take care,
Buddy :thumb:
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I have a business building custom bike wheels, if anyone's interested in ordering a wheelset.
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Sorry to hear about your crash Phil. Heal quickly. You can still do the Montauk ride, just maybe not as fast as you had hoped.
I did a very mountainous metric this weekend and within 2 miles of the start at the top of the first climb a rider went down with a heart attack and didn't survive. He was on a tandem with his wife. I didn't find out what had happened to him until the next day. Be safe out on the road.
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Wow, accelerating so fast you popped a wheelie? Glad you're ok. I had a close call Saturday where turned on a corner going too fast and my rear tire slipped out from under me. The bike went sideways but i managed to keep from flipping off the side. There was a car approaching the intersection, it could have been serious.
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Thanks for the well-wishes. Feeling much better today, although not sure how much of it is due to the painkillers...! Doc prescribed a concentrated dose of Motrin as well as vicodin if the pain gets really bad...fortunately have not had to use the vicodin yet.
It wasn't quite a wheelie...but when I sprint, I pull on my handlebars to get more leverage into the pedals, and with my new lighter wheels, the front of the bike came up much easier than usual. And it was actually my second ride of the day, so I was a little fatigued and not paying as much attention to things as I should have been...which is why I feel so stupid for crashing like this...!
Here's a picture of my helmet...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=29880)
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Sorry to hear about the crash. Get well soon!
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Looking back down at a switchback on today's ride on the BRP.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_2999.jpg)
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This is tame stuff for you guys, but I'm going on the Tour of Long Beach this saturday. The standard "lap" is a 31 mile block with option to ride it twice for a metric century. Should be easy going and fun. This is my first time, so I'm curious how it will compare to my only point of reference, the Long Beach Bike Tour, which runs right before the marathon.
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This is tame stuff for you guys, but I'm going on the Tour of Long Beach this saturday. The standard "lap" is a 31 mile block with option to ride it twice for a metric century. Should be easy going and fun. This is my first time, so I'm curious how it will compare to my only point of reference, the Long Beach Bike Tour, which runs right before the marathon.
Are you doing the metric century? The main thing for a ride like this is to make sure you eat properly both before and during (and after!) the ride...and don't let your adrenaline burn you out too early...
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I understand Phil is talking about a long ride here. I wonder if the same advice holds true for a shorter ride (<20 miles). I recently read an article that claimed exercising after a fast (like a morning ride or run) burns fat and not carbohydrates. The sample size used was not even close to statistically valid but the fasting riders burned more fat. Not surprisingly their riding performance was not as good so someone may have to choose between performance training or weight management.
So far I have tried fasting rides two mornings and had surprisingly good rides despite the wind. If I don't eat before an evening ride I tend to bonk but I felt good after my morning rides. I am wondering if my body is already burning fat in the morning so it is easy to keep doing it while in the evening I am burning carbs and my body demands more and refuses to switch to the reserve (fat :lol:) tank. Surprisingly, I was not as hungry after my morning fasting ride as I am after any ride where I have eaten first.
Curious what others have experienced. I plan on doing more fasting rides.
Just as background: I eat mostly whole grains and vegetables. Light on the amount of meat with many meatless meals. Very few prepared foods. No fast foods. It took me over 20 years to finish a box of salt although I admit that near the end it was mostly sentimentality that spared it. No soda and almost never for alcohol. It would take me a YEAR to finish a six-pack. Still I struggle with the fat genes and fat jeans.
Are you doing the metric century? The main thing for a ride like this is to make sure you eat properly both before and during (and after!) the ride...and don't let your adrenaline burn you out too early...
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I understand Phil is talking about a long ride here. I wonder if the same advice holds true for a shorter ride (<20 miles). I recently read an article that claimed exercising after a fast (like a morning ride or run) burns fat and not carbohydrates. The sample size used was not even close to statistically valid but the fasting riders burned more fat. Not surprisingly their riding performance was not as good so someone may have to choose between performance training or weight management.
So far I have tried fasting rides two mornings and had surprisingly good rides despite the wind. If I don't eat before an evening ride I tend to bonk but I felt good after my morning rides. I am wondering if my body is already burning fat in the morning so it is easy to keep doing it while in the evening I am burning carbs and my body demands more and refuses to switch to the reserve (fat :lol:) tank. Surprisingly, I was not as hungry after my morning fasting ride as I am after any ride where I have eaten first.
Curious what others have experienced. I plan on doing more fasting rides.
Just as background: I eat mostly whole grains and vegetables. Light on the amount of meat with many meatless meals. Very few prepared foods. No fast foods. It took me over 20 years to finish a box of salt although I admit that near the end it was mostly sentimentality that spared it. No soda and almost never for alcohol. It would take me a YEAR to finish a six-pack. Still I struggle with the fat genes and fat jeans.
My understanding of it is as follows:
Your body takes at least 90 minutes to take the food you eat and absorb it into a form that is ready to be used as fuel for your ride. As such, eating just before you ride doesn't actually help your riding until 90 minutes into your ride. On the other hand, your body can store enough fuel to last you about 2 hours of exercising...so eating just before you ride helps keep you from bonking on rides of 2+ hours (eg. 25+ miles for most riders).
That said, most sources I've read about carbo-loading say that you need to start carbo-loading for a performance ride about 2-3 days before you do your ride. With this in mind, I am assuming that fasting the day before a ride won't matter as much if you have carbo-loaded 2-3 days beforehand.
From my own personal/anecdotal experience, riding on an empty stomach usually results in a poor performance for me. Obviously, I don't go out of my way to stuff myself, but having a bagel or a small bowl of pasta before a ride goes a long way for me. And weight-loss comes more from controlling portions over time than it does from specific training rides. But that's just bast on my eating and riding habits and is by no means scientific...
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Just as background: I eat mostly whole grains and vegetables. Light on the amount of meat with many meatless meals. Very few prepared foods. No fast foods. It took me over 20 years to finish a box of salt although I admit that near the end it was mostly sentimentality that spared it. No soda and almost never for alcohol. It would take me a YEAR to finish a six-pack. Still I struggle with the fat genes and fat jeans.
I'm on an opposite diet: plenty of meat; don't restrict salt at all (add it to many meals); no grains. I still eat vegetables and sadly don't drink beer and am trying to quit alcohol totally. Unfortunately, I haven't applied this way of eating to bike rides beyond two hours (rode several centuries and metric centuries one year, but I thought I "needed" carbs; now I'm not so sure). I've been lifting and performing high intensity interval training instead of biking, mainly because of time constraints. I'd like to see if I could bike longer than 2 hours without resorting to increased carbs. That will have to wait until at least next year, though.
As for whether one burns fat or carbohydrates, many of these studies are meaningless or open to (mis)interpretation. For instance the whole "you burn fat at lower heart rates (or intensities)" is only partially true. If you exercise at a higher intensity, you may burn fewer calories from fat as a percentage of the total calories burnt, but the overall calories burnt from fat could be higher than if you exercised at a lower intensity, because the overall number of calories will be higher.
Personally, I think it's completely bunk, as I've not been eating more than 50 grams of carbohydrate per day this entire year, and have had no problems exercising.
As a side note, the evidence for limiting salt is on shaky, non-scientific grounds. See, eg:
http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/04/salt-shaking-news.html
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You should be fine. Add some electrolytes in your drink and pedal that bike. :)
I did 99.26 miles on my MTB at Bike Boat Bike in Long Island. You can accomplish that faster on them skinnies. ;)
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I'm pretty "traditional" when it comes to diet...eating balanced meals overall (a little bit of everything!), with some emphasis on adding carbs when a big riding day is approaching, and emphasizing protein after the big rides to help recovery and muscle-building. Food without salt just tastes too bland for me, but too much salt is also unbearable. Alcohol is limited to a few drinks every other week or so, and its mostly red wine or beer. I don't have a sweet tooth at all. I definitely ride my bike for enjoyment, but I also ride it so that I can indulge food-wise every now and then without worrying too much about my weight.
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For instance the whole "you burn fat at lower heart rates (or intensities)" is only partially true. If you exercise at a higher intensity, you may burn fewer calories from fat as a percentage of the total calories burnt, but the overall calories burnt from fat could be higher than if you exercised at a lower intensity, because the overall number of calories will be higher.
As a side note, the evidence for limiting salt is on shaky, non-scientific grounds. See, eg:
http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2007/04/salt-shaking-news.html
Well there are reasons believe believe that lower intensity is better for burning fat. It is true that under many circumstances you burn a higher percentage blah blah blah. The situation here however is that for people with a certain set of epigenetics (mostly Type A blood people and a few AB, but there are other factors because it is not true for all of them) that exercising at high intensity raises cortisol too much and prevents fat burning. They can often struggle endlessly never getting more fit and never losing weight.
Too much salt has long been known to contribute to people that have cardiovascular disease. However on some people have the problem, many worry about it needlessly, and some that do have it for other reasons than the typical ones.
Phil do you know your blood type? You know for instance if you are Type O than you should know that wheat binds to insulin receptors, high blood sugar from ingesting lots of carbohydrates makes your body stop using it for energy and stores it if you have thrifty epigentics, and it degrades your intestines. Depending on your epigenetics it might be easy to trim you down in no time at all with the right conditions.
ctviggen You should look at Hammer Products. They are the best by far... lots of good information on their website. Specifically look at Sustained Energy. It has protein and a simple carbohydrates for energy. Think of it like this perhaps... what if you use protein for energy but you need some simple carbohydrates or carbohydrates for enough blood sugar to metabolize the complex chains of fatty acid. The easier ATP is to make (simple carbohydrates) the more you have available on demand for accessing the more complicated protein. I know a bunch of people that do VERY well on Sustained Energy and few that like Perpetuem. I would recommend some electrolytes without a doubt though. It is too bad eating a pocket stake would not work out huh? You need it sort of on demand in a since so a semi broken down version like found in Hammer's stuff would be more ideal.
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Phil do you know your blood type? You know for instance if you are Type O than you should know that wheat binds to insulin receptors, high blood sugar from ingesting lots of carbohydrates makes your body stop using it for energy and stores it if you have thrifty epigentics, and it degrades your intestines. Depending on your epigenetics it might be easy to trim you down in no time at all with the right conditions.
Are you saying I'm fat?? :evil: I'm actually quite happy with my weight (185lbs at just a hair under 6ft tall). And no, I don't know my blood type, but I do know that if I don't load up on carbs, my rides are lousy....
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Finally have a computer up and running again. The Tour of Long Beach was just "ok." Nowhere near as nice as the Long Beach Bike Tour, which precedes the marathon. The traffic is stopped for that one, and it's sweet. For that last ride, it was on the street, with really narrow bike lanes for a large majority of it, so it was a bit of a hassle to pass people against oncoming traffic. There were also several bottlenecks, and at one point, we actually had to dismount and walk up a dirt slope because some people couldn't make it and were causing a traffic jam because the lane was one man wide right before the dirt. I suppose the ride was for charity, so I don't begrudge the money, but I'm not sure I would do it again just for shucks. As for the metric century, there's no way I could have finished before the event was over. I'm still 80lbs. overweight :duh:
Last wednesday and today, I rode to work. Nice little ride, I think it's about 18 miles there and 22 miles back, taking an alternative route with a big(ger) hill. Feels good today. Last week, I was dehydrated and practically about to pass out. I didn't know what caused it at the time - this time I brought a water bottle.
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Went biking for the first time yesterday. Borrowed my neighbor's wife's unisex Cannondale. My ass is hurting bad today.
Anyway, I am now thinking of getting a bike. This would definitely be for urban fitness. Roads around me are bad. Plenty of curb hopping. I like the straight bars way better!
I'd like to stay ~1K mark for a first bike. Light it good.
Any suggestions?
Right now I made a list of hybrid-urban-commuter type bikes in my price range. I know next to nothing about bikes. I know that I am an aggressive rider though as they is hangover from my BMX & Freestyle days.
Current list:
Gary Fischer - Mendota
Trek 7.6 FX
Trek Montare
Specialized Roulux
GT Transeo 1.0 Disk
Help?
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Current list:
Gary Fischer - Mendota
Trek 7.6 FX
Trek Montare
Specialized Roulux
GT Transeo 1.0 Disk
Help?
You might also check out the Jamis Allegro line - they tend to provide a little better spec for the same price as the majors, but it can be a little tougher to find a dealer.
http://www.jamisbikes.com/usa/thebikes/street/allegro/10_allegro3.html
I've got 3 Jamis bikes that I really like, although I eventually figured out that I like older vintage bike technology.
Jim C
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That is good to hear Josh.
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Josh,
Several things in your post make me want to recommend a hard-tail mountain bike with narrower rims and slicks. Slicks can be had in sizes from 26x1.0 to fat boys. Depends on your road conditions and riding style.
I would also avoid any front suspension to reduce weight. I can hammer pretty good on pavement with my slick-outfitted KHS and it is not all that heavy. I much prefer it to my road bike for certain roads.
Depending on your size you might appreciate the smaller size of an MTB and regain some of your "glory days" (BMX). :lol:
Good luck with whatever you choose. Remember--shiny side up, rubber side down. :thumb:
Went biking for the first time yesterday. Borrowed my neighbor's wife's unisex Cannondale. My ass is hurting bad today.
Anyway, I am now thinking of getting a bike. This would definitely be for urban fitness. Roads around me are bad. Plenty of curb hopping. I like the straight bars way better!
I'd like to stay ~1K mark for a first bike. Light it good.
Any suggestions?
Right now I made a list of hybrid-urban-commuter type bikes in my price range. I know next to nothing about bikes. I know that I am an aggressive rider though as they is hangover from my BMX & Freestyle days.
Current list:
Gary Fischer - Mendota
Trek 7.6 FX
Trek Montare
Specialized Roulux
GT Transeo 1.0 Disk
Help?
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Josh,
Several things in your post make me want to recommend a hard-tail mountain bike with narrower rims and slicks. Slicks can be had in sizes from 26x1.0 to fat boys. Depends on your road conditions and riding style.
I would also avoid any front suspension to reduce weight. I can hammer pretty good on pavement with my slick-outfitted KHS and it is not all that heavy. I much prefer it to my road bike for certain roads.
Depending on your size you might appreciate the smaller size of an MTB and regain some of your "glory days" (BMX). :lol:
Good luck with whatever you choose. Remember--shiny side up, rubber side down. :thumb:
29" mountain bikes are available now. That's another option.
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I ride a 29er MTB with slicks pretty much exclusively on the road. For urban riding, there ARE a few disadvantages. First, the gearing is on the low side. I'm an out of shape slob, so that doesn't hamper me too often, but even I can feel it at times, most noticeably when going downhill. Second, the wider handle bars makes lane splitting quite nerve wracking, especially when my balance isn't all that good in the first place. I ride a "large" or 19" frame, and handle bar widths vary from model to model, but I think any MTB will have wider bars than a road bike. On the flip side, the wide handle bars and relatively low center of gravity make me feel more stable (see my bad balance mentioned above,) and the lower gearing helps me climb the hills.
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The MTB sounds like an interesting option. I had thought of getting a MTB before as I'd love to go trail riding, I just think I'll get more road time then trail time.
If I get some slicks and some off-road wheels then I can change up. Something I hadn't thought of.
BTW, why 29ers?
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The MTB sounds like an interesting option. I had thought of getting a MTB before as I'd love to go trail riding, I just think I'll get more road time then trail time.
If I get some slicks and some off-road wheels then I can change up. Something I hadn't thought of.
BTW, why 29ers?
When in college, I had a mountain bike with 2 sets of tubes and tires. I could switch them in about 10 minutes. I personally wouldn't spend the money on a 2nd set of wheels.
29ers roll over things better than 26" bikes. The larger wheels can also soften the ride some.
I just bought this one and got an extra $100 off :thumb:
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/windsor_cliff29team.htm
UPS shows it's sitting at my front door. Can't wait to get home.
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How did you get the extra $100?
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Hey Josh see you at the race in 6mos? :lol: I was racing after 9 mos. See my first Mtb race at Lewis Morris Challenge last Sunday. I placed 15 out of 45 in CAT 3 Mens 40-49.
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/jontot8/Lewis%20Morris%20Challenge%202010/Picture10_4.png)
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l242/Kampamilya/LMC2010%20by%20Jayson/jaysonpics8.jpg)
Merlin XLM
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How did you get the extra $100?
I ordered a different bike, made the payment, and after everything went though, they emailed me saying the bike was out of stock. To make up for it, they offered me a discount if I wanted a different bike. :D
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The MTB sounds like an interesting option. I had thought of getting a MTB before as I'd love to go trail riding, I just think I'll get more road time then trail time.
If I get some slicks and some off-road wheels then I can change up. Something I hadn't thought of.
BTW, why 29ers?
I will say that reading your post made me think of recommending a MTB and using slick tires for the road. If you go that route, there are lots of bikes to choose from in your price range...and my recommendation would be to find a local bike shop where you feel comfortable talking with the people there and see what they have in your price range...
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It may be difficult to find a shop with 29ers in stock. It seems a bit regional. Here in SoCal, there are very few bike shops with 29ers in stock, and very limited model selection. Could be that the east coast has a different scene. The slicks make a big difference on the road, but I haven't had much luck with them in the dirt. A separate wheel set is quite expensive, because a $1000 bike will likely have disc brakes, and you will have to buy an extra set of brake rotors to make things easy. Not cheap.
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29ers are actually pretty popular on the east coast...I read somewhere that they are far more popular on the east coast than the west coast, which is kind of weird, because they are probably much better-suited for west-coast mountain bike riding (east coast features more technical single-track riding that requires more tight handling)...
And no need for completely separate wheels if you're willing to change tires...
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From my ride last week around the San Juan Mountains in Colorado. Lizardhead Pass.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_3238.jpg)
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From my ride last week around the San Juan Mountains in Colorado. Lizardhead Pass.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_3238.jpg)
Beautiful picture and beautiful bike. I'm looking at an S-Works Roubaix after checking out the one my neighbor just picked up. It's a '10 model and is matte black with matte gray lettering. Very nice looking bike but I think your bike is equally stunning. He's in love with the ride and the feel of the frame. He has the BB30 version with Specialized stock BB30 cranks.
Thanks for sharing the picture of the bike and the beautiful scenery!
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Beautiful picture and beautiful bike. I'm looking at an S-Works Roubaix after checking out the one my neighbor just picked up. It's a '10 model and is matte black with matte gray lettering. Very nice looking bike but I think your bike is equally stunning. He's in love with the ride and the feel of the frame. He has the BB30 version with Specialized stock BB30 cranks.
Thanks for sharing the picture of the bike and the beautiful scenery!
The Roubaix will change to the SL3 platform for 2011. While it might make some slight difference, there should be some good deals on the 2010. My bike is a 2009. I think it is a great all around ride.
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The Roubaix will change to the SL3 platform for 2011. While it might make some slight difference, there should be some good deals on the 2010. My bike is a 2009. I think it is a great all around ride.
It seems '10 models are scarce. My friend didn't want to get an S-Works but he's a 60" and couldn't find much in his size. I need to ride the bike before buying. Tarmac and Roubaix are on the list, along with Lynskey Helix, Serotta Ti, and a couple others. This could all be kaboshed if I get a powertap for my bike. Looking for a used wireless on CL because I don't want to spend the $ on a new one.
I want to have one bike and need to decide between a racing geometry ride and a more relaxed frame. If I get a high end model (with Red or DA), I can only have one bike. Another option would be to keep my current ride (Pilot 5.0) and get an inexpensive racing bike like a CAAD9 or similar. Most of my rides are over 50 miles and I plan to do some 100 mile rides very soon. The Roubaix would be perfect for this distance and would still be fast.
No hills in the midwest (where I ride) but lots of wind. That's my main concern. My group is still faster than I am. I continue to improve but so do they, and I'm not closing the gap. Need to find a way to get faster or find a slower group to train with. This is a fun hobby and I'm hooked!
Cheers,
J
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The Tarmac and the Roubaix are two different beasts. The Tarmac will be quicker handling and snappier on hills while the Roubaix will track more easily and have a bit more comfort due to its longer wheelbase. It just depends what flavor you want.
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The Tarmac and the Roubaix are two different beasts. The Tarmac will be quicker handling and snappier on hills while the Roubaix will track more easily and have a bit more comfort due to its longer wheelbase. It just depends what flavor you want.
Thanks. Yep, I am familiar with both bikes. Was leaning towards a Tarmac or racier bike until my friend got a Roubaix. His Roubaix is strange looking because he has a very large size but he loves it because of the ride. In a perfect world, I'd own both but my budget and space consraints don't allow for it.
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Jack,
As you've already mentioned, you just need to go ride each of them and see what you think.
A few of my thoughts;
Look used. A lot of great deals out there. I basically had to give away a recent frame of mine at about a 60% discount just to get it sold. Kind of mirrors the audio world right now. :roll:
Maybe look at buying a frame separate and piecing together. There is a Seven Elium on the bay right now that is probably your size and I bet it goes for $900. Certainly a lot of money, but also a steal at that price for one sweet riding frame. May also want to check out some of the non house brands. Kuota, Ridley, BMC, etc, all make very nice bikes.
While D/A, Red, and Record are nice, look at the levels right below. I notice virtually no difference between the highest end stuff to Rival/Force, Ultegra, and Chorus/Centaur. 95% the performance at 60% the cost.
Wish you were a bit taller, pretty sure I'd have something for ya. :green:
Having more than one like is a nice luxury. And you may be a good candidate for two bikes. The Pilot for longer distances, and a racey one that gets your blood boiling.
The CAD9 is a great bike. About as good of an aluminum frame as you can get.
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Jack,
As you've already mentioned, you just need to go ride each of them and see what you think.
A few of my thoughts;
Look used. A lot of great deals out there. I basically had to give away a recent frame of mine at about a 60% discount just to get it sold. Kind of mirrors the audio world right now. :roll:
Maybe look at buying a frame separate and piecing together. There is a Seven Elium on the bay right now that is probably your size and I bet it goes for $900. Certainly a lot of money, but also a steal at that price for one sweet riding frame. May also want to check out some of the non house brands. Kuota, Ridley, BMC, etc, all make very nice bikes.
While D/A, Red, and Record are nice, look at the levels right below. I notice virtually no difference between the highest end stuff to Rival/Force, Ultegra, and Chorus/Centaur. 95% the performance at 60% the cost.
Wish you were a bit taller, pretty sure I'd have something for ya. :green:
Having more than one like is a nice luxury. And you may be a good candidate for two bikes. The Pilot for longer distances, and a racey one that gets your blood boiling.
The CAD9 is a great bike. About as good of an aluminum frame as you can get.
AAAAAAAHHHHH!!! I just wrote a long response to your post and it timed out and I lost everything!
I said that your suggestions are excellent. I'm very familiar with the bikes on your list and the CAAD9 and I really appreciate your recommendations. You have some of the best looking bikes I have ever seen and I will seek your advice prior to making a decision.
I did a fast 25 mile training ride tonight and the Pilot (although it's a total geezer bike) rode beautifully. It's not sexy looking like a Kish or BMC but my bike fits me perfectly and rides so smoothly. A CAAD9 would be a nice stable mate because it's stiff and fast. Tried to get a matte black one but could not find any locally in my size. Will continue to check eBay (unless I find a Serotta in my size!).
My only regret is that I'm not a bit taller, because I would totally buy any of your old bikes! You really have great taste in bicycles. If I had those bikes, it would be hard to pick a favorite at least based on looks. They are all stunning.
Hey, thanks for letting me borrow your speakers. I'm in no hurry to send them back but wanted to let you know they are safe and sound, and I appreciate you letting me enjoy them temporarily. They are very nice.
Cheers!
Jack
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Oh Sh*t. Kind of forgot about the speakers. Work has been crazy for me. Which in today's economy, things could be worse. It has killed my riding time though. I'll reach out to you in a bit. Thanks for the storage facility. Know they are in good hands.
On to bikes, Fit is King!
What size are you again Jack. 54/55/56? I'll keep a look out.
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Oh Sh*t. Kind of forgot about the speakers. Work has been crazy for me. Which in today's economy, things could be worse. It has killed my riding time though. I'll reach out to you in a bit. Thanks for the storage facility. Know they are in good hands.
On to bikes, Fit is King!
What size are you again Jack. 54/55/56? I'll keep a look out.
Hey, no worries on the speakers. I'll hold on to them as long as you wish. Just didn't want you to forget and I would never do anything to betray the trust anyone puts in me. They are in a safe place and ready whenever you are ready. No rush!
I'm a 55" or a 56". My current bike is a 56" and it fits me perfectly. I ride with a group of guys who all have really cool bikes, Ridley Noah, Serotta custom CF, Serotta custom Ti, Lynskey Helix custom Ti, S-Works Roubaix, Madone 6.9, Willier Centro (sp?), etc. My little Trek Pilot 5.0 is not sexy but is comfortable for me and fits me perfectly. I'd like to get something cooler and faster but I doubt I would be any faster. Maybe the Caad 9 because it's so stiff and lightweight.
I weighed my Pilot with the new CF crankset and it is just over 18.5 lbs with pedals and bottle carriers. The wheels are 1950 g's, the 105 shifters, cassette, and Ultegra derailiers are heavy (I have Sram Red shifters but need to buy deraileurs), and the Bontrager bars and stem are heavy. I could get two pounds off this bike with lighter tires and the addition of the SRAM red drivetrain. Also have a 500 g fork on the bike at the moment. I already swapped out the crankset and bb for SRAM GPX with carbon fiber crank arms. Switching to Red or Force and swapping out the fork and wheels would put me around 16 lbs, respectable for a race bike.
I am lookig at another wheelset and have a good deal locally on the Red components that I might pull the trigger on today. Lots of forks for sale on ebay (Alpha Q, Easton, etc.) with carbon steerers but I ride some rough roads on mine and feel secure with an alu steerer. Plus I'm still around 205 and don't want to take unnecessary chances.
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I am actually looking to get a road bike too. It just makes more sense than changing wheels or tires if I plan to start riding often. I am not about racing though, this is for fitness during the week.
On the weekends I'll be hitting the trails with the GF X-cal. I am going to a group ride and BBQ at 6 Mile tomorrow with the MTBNJ crowd.
For a street bike, I am leaning towards more of a comfort oriented bike rather than a racer, i.e. more upright position. I've done some research and came up with the following list. Any thoughts?
Real Roadies but more upright fit::
Giant Defy 1
Trek Pilot 2.1
Spec. Secteur Elite
Cannondale Synapse 5
Jamis Ventura Race
More commuter oriented which may fit my more aggressive riding style::
Fisher Mendota
I think I am leaning towards the first group, as the Mendota is a too similar to my MTB.
Experience or opinions with any of these would be helpful.
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With the choices you have, I'd be a little concerned about durability and reliability, depending on what you mean by "aggressive riding style"
I have an older lower-spec Jamis Ventura and it is a very nice bike for the money. I did find that I had a tendency to break rear spokes on the lightweight wheels with lots of dish, I was around 200 lbs. and would be commuting so I might hit a pothole or curb every so often. I also found that in more urban riding I didn't like having to go into the drops to brake effectively.
I would think you might be better served by something like a touring bike, with stouter wheels. Maybe something along the lines of a Surly Long Haul Trucker.
http://surlybikes.com/bikes/long_haul_trucker_complete/
I've discovered that for almost all my regular road biking I prefer a fixed gear bike. Great exercise, fun to ride, minimal mechanical issues to deal with, no dish in the rear wheels makes them super strong. Fastest ride I have by far, unless I'm heading into the mountains. You might take a look at something like a Redline Urbis or 925, I think the 925 is a single speed (not fixed), but you could add a fixed gear cog to replace or supplement the freewheel.
http://www.redlinebicycles.com/bikes/commute/2010-urbis
http://www.redlinebicycles.com/bikes/commute/2010--925
You might also look into some cyclocross bikes which might fare better with aggressive riding.
Jim C
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Josh,
Some of it may depend on your size, the roads you will be riding, etc. Take it you will be using your current ATB for the trail riding.
So of those mentioned, I personally would lean towards the Cannondale. Nicest frame. That said, the one that fits you the best, is the way to go. Head tube length, top tube length, etc.
Jack can talk to you about the Pilot, as I believe that is the exact same model he is riding now. If you guys are the same size, maybe a deal can be worked out. You both want new rides.
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OK, some clarifications.
For roading, I am not likely to be that aggressive. But the roads around here can sometimes be sketchy, that is why I said more aggressive.
I am 170lbs or thereabouts, 5'8".
Maybe I am better off with a set of road wheels for my MTB. The LBS guy said it would cost me in the mid 400's for such a setup.
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Josh,
Some of it may depend on your size, the roads you will be riding, etc. Take it you will be using your current ATB for the trail riding.
So of those mentioned, I personally would lean towards the Cannondale. Nicest frame. That said, the one that fits you the best, is the way to go. Head tube length, top tube length, etc.
Jack can talk to you about the Pilot, as I believe that is the exact same model he is riding now. If you guys are the same size, maybe a deal can be worked out. You both want new rides.
Hi Josh,
Ladydog knows bikes! He is an experienced rider and has owned several bikes that I can only dream of. I have 100% confidence in his recommendations.
I have the Pilot but it's not the current version. Mine is an OLCV 120 carbon fiber, made in USA version from '08 that I bought as a new bike last year (NOS). The Pilot, Syapse, Roubaix, Defy, etc., are all relaxed geometry bikes. They typically have a shorter top tube, longer head tube and longer wheelbase for a more comfortable and stable ride. Riding position is more upright than a racing bike and the longer wheelbase gives you a less twitchy ride. They usually can accept fenders (the Pilot can) and up to 28mm tires. This is good if you plan to commute with the bike or ride on rougher roads. I typically ride 23 mm, Continental GP4000's (my favorite tires) and have never had a problem.
Depending on your budget, if you are looking to buy new, I think the Cannondale or the Specialized Roubaix would be great choices. Make sure you ride before you buy and get sized properly. This is more important than getting a great deal on a particular brand.
Since you already have a MTB-style bike, I'd avoid commuter type bikes. The relaxed geometry bikes you referenced will be faster and more comfortable over long distances. I've only been seriously road cycling since August so please factor this into the equasion. My group rides on some bumpy roads and frequently over gravel. Skinny tires like the ones I use are not ideal but it's generally not a problem. I'm just under 5'10" and, as of today, weigh around 207 lbs. Not a lightweight but I've never bent a rim and my wheels are true after thousands of miles of riding. Unless you plan to ride off-road, you could ride a Pilot, Syanapse or Roubaix on rough roads without problems. You might have to run 25mm, lower psi, flat-resistant tires.
I can ride my bike for 100 miles without any discomfort (other than typical muscle soreness). It's also set up to allow for a more aero riding position compared to when I first bough the bike. The carbon fiber is stiff and filters out some road buzz so it's more foregiving on long rides. A race bike will be stiffer and allow for better power transfer but that stiffness could lead to discomfort on long rides. I know some very fast riders who ride comfortable geometry bikes, including a good friend who rides a Specialized Roubaix. You could easily race (although probably not crit) on the Roubaix or the Synapse if you wanted to at a later date.
Lastly, I wouldn't spend money on road wheels for your current bike. It might be better to put the money towards a used bike you can ride on the road or get a set of road tires for your bike. IMO, flat bar bikes don't offer enough hand positions and aero positions for long rides.
Good luck!
J
PS - This is a cool looking bike that I'm thinking about getting:
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=PRODUCT_REVIEW&ARTICLE_ID=3059&RETURN=BMC%20Road%20Racer%20SL%2001%2FSRAM%20Rival%20Complete%20Bike%20page&RETURNLINK=%2Fza%2FCCY%3FPAGE%3DPRODUCT%26PRODUCT.ID%3D6950 (http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=PRODUCT_REVIEW&ARTICLE_ID=3059&RETURN=BMC%20Road%20Racer%20SL%2001%2FSRAM%20Rival%20Complete%20Bike%20page&RETURNLINK=%2Fza%2FCCY%3FPAGE%3DPRODUCT%26PRODUCT.ID%3D6950)
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Hey Josh, you current 29er bike will be just fine with your intended purpose. Since you are only riding short distances and needs the manuverability.
I would build your core muscles first and when you think you are ready to ride over 70+ miles in a week then a more efficient road bike package is needed.
Cad 9 is one of the best bikes you can buy for less than $1500.
Keep riding!
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I'm a total noob but am riding between 45 to 85 road miles a week on my rockhopper 29'er SL with 37c road tires without too many complaints. Of course, I'm not going very fast, but I certainly don't think the bike is the most significant bottleneck. I picked up a pair of shoes and egg beater pedals, which may have improved my commute time by as much as 10%, fwiw.
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It becomes significant when you are riding in a group with other roadies/mtbers and gets' dropped frequently. It is lonely riding alone sometimes. :)
I'm a total noob but am riding between 45 to 85 road miles a week on my rockhopper 29'er SL with 37c road tires without too many complaints. Of course, I'm not going very fast, but I certainly don't think the bike is the most significant bottleneck. I picked up a pair of shoes and egg beater pedals, which may have improved my commute time by as much as 10%, fwiw.
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Well, that's all in who you're riding with and their riding style. My work riding buddy is a semi pro level racer but he just rides with me for fun and to put in some spinning endurance miles before he practices time trials riding 35 miles back to his home. My other friends are about my speed, so it's no big deal. You just got your bike, enjoy it for a while!
Gotta remember, just like audio, no one with the bug will tell you to buy an integrated solution like an HT receiver ... or some kind of all in one bike that will do everything well but nothing great. On the other hand, if you've got the money to spare, have fun :drool:
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Hey Guys,
I was just giving suggestions. Josh is a smart guy and he knows how to spend his money wisely. Before buying anything, I'd try to figure out what kind of riding you will be doing. If he's thinking about riding on road, I would suggest a bike that is made for on road riding. If he only plans to ride on the road infrequently, a nice set of road type tires will make the ride more enjoyable and faster, possibly.
I have a lot of time on my road bike and like the traditional road handlebar shape. It allows you to get several hand positions on long rides and is more comfy for me. My mtb is cool but I woudln't want to ride it long distances, even with road tires.
It's like audio gear, as the previous poster said. For some people, Bose might not be the wrong choice. They don't need perfect sound and value portability and other conveniences certain brands offer. Whatever makes them happy!
Cheers,
J
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If I had the money, I'd be hitting the shops finding the right road bike for me, too. I'm just saying that he JUST got his x-caliber, which is a pretty cool bike, and can roll fairly well with a set of slicks - at least well enough to get started. You must admit that it will get the job done, just like a powerful truck vs. a powerful roadster. Ok, I know Josh is a smart guy and has a good job as befits his education etc., and nothing I am saying will stop him from buying the bike he wants. I'm just gently nudging the law of diminishing returns.
Now don't get me wrong, I clicked and ogled every one of those links you guys posted ;) If he gets any one of those road bikes, I'd be nothing but :drool:
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I am actually looking to get a road bike too. It just makes more sense than changing wheels or tires if I plan to start riding often. I am not about racing though, this is for fitness during the week.
On the weekends I'll be hitting the trails with the GF X-cal. I am going to a group ride and BBQ at 6 Mile tomorrow with the MTBNJ crowd.
For a street bike, I am leaning towards more of a comfort oriented bike rather than a racer, i.e. more upright position. I've done some research and came up with the following list. Any thoughts?
Real Roadies but more upright fit::
Giant Defy 1
Trek Pilot 2.1
Spec. Secteur Elite
Cannondale Synapse 5
Jamis Ventura Race
More commuter oriented which may fit my more aggressive riding style::
Fisher Mendota
I think I am leaning towards the first group, as the Mendota is a too similar to my MTB.
Experience or opinions with any of these would be helpful.
Hey Josh,
You've definitely identified all good bikes in the same "class" (intended use, budget, etc). Imho, it will boil down to which one you are the most comfortable on (fit-wise). If you're planning on buying new, it'll also have some dependency on your comfort-level with the store you're buying from...many stores offer free tune-ups et al on bikes that they sell new to you, and this can add up over years of use.
If you don't have stores near you that sell all of these brands, I have decent relationships with stores in my area (not that far from you) that have pretty much all of them...so let me know if you want to come up and do some shopping around.
Of the ones you listed, I think Jamis tends to spec their bikes with slightly better components than the others in the same price range (and Trek tends to lag just a little bit). The biggest decision you will probably need to make is deciding between Shimano Tiagra and Shimano 105. Performance-wise, they are almost identical...but Tiagra is a 9-speed system, and 105 is a 10-speed system. It doesn't make a ton of difference for your stated intended riding, but if you ever do decide to get more "hardcore" into road riding, 105 is upgradable to Shimano's higher-quality components (Ultegra, Dura-Ace are both 10-speed), whereas Tiagra (as a 9-speed system) is not.
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Btw - got back from a week in the Bay Area...riding there is great! About 42 miles at a moderate pace...the most difficult part of the ride was that it starts with a 5 mile climb...not a huge elevation (only about 500ft), but no warm-up!
Canada Road, off of Skyline Blvd just south of Hillsborough. On Sundays, they close this road to cars and open it up to bicyclists:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=32898)
My route:
Link: http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/ca/san-mateo/773127914306367101
My biggest observations about the difference riding in the Bay Area vs. NY/NJ area are that (1) there aren't many pure flats in the Bay Area...everything has some kind of grade to it (up and down), and (2) drivers are MUCH friendlier to cyclists in the Bay Area!
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Thanks guys for the advice. I am in no rush to plunk down coin, but I do want to ride during the week and off-road really isn't possible except the weekends. The knobbies sure feel slow, but for excercise it probably doesn't matter for now.
I don't really like the idea of changing tires back and forth all the time and an extra set of wheels cost enough that just buying a real road bike seems like a better option especially if that is what it going to happen eventually anyway.
I road the X-cal twice on the road for brief rides. Its a great bike, but the tires feel too soft for the road. I don't know what is safe as far as pressure for knobbies. I just went on my first off-road ride today at Hartshorne. Wow did I ever get my ass kicked! Second time around the grand tour my legs turned to jelly.
Met up with the MTBNJ guys and went to the BBQ. Fun group and good time.
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Please don't take this as discouragement to buy a road bike.
But changing tires is pretty fast, once you have enough experience, and swapping the tires out for slicks makes a big difference. My roadie co-worker/friend could probably change a tube in the time it takes you to fill up a few water bottles. He tells me his riding club has competitions to see who can change their tires faster. Me, it'll take a while, but the more I do it, the more I see that it's merely inexperience that is making me take so long.
What I'm trying to say is that a cheap pair of slicks, e.g. clearance from nashbar.com, is worth the $20/pr it will set you back until you decide which road bike you want. Don't forget to get some tire levers, if you don't already have some.
Yesterday, my buddy and I were riding, him on knobbies and me on my clearance slicks (wtb slickasaurus) and sweat was pouring down his face while I was barely breathing hard. The knobbies also sound like a mini lawn mower next to the slicks. :duh:
Once you've swapped tires enough:
1) You will be set for any flat tire emergencies you may have.
2) You may feel more motivated to hurry up and go buy a road bike :tempted:
Phil, thanks for posting the ride. I think one of my friends lives in San Mateo and he's been bugging me to visit. It'll be good to ride there.
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Hey Josh...another option might be to look at some fixed-gear or single-speed bikes. If the plan is basically to ride the bike on the roads around where you live (and not to do long road rides et al), and you don't have many hills around you, a fixed gear or single-speed bike will be much less expensive, and will help you towards your fitness goals much better. Something like a Jamis Sputnik or Specialized Langster could fill the bill....
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Hey Josh...another option might be to look at some fixed-gear or single-speed bikes. If the plan is basically to ride the bike on the roads around where you live (and not to do long road rides et al), and you don't have many hills around you, a fixed gear or single-speed bike will be much less expensive, and will help you towards your fitness goals much better. Something like a Jamis Sputnik or Specialized Langster could fill the bill....
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A fixed gear will also help improve your riding technique, you have to develop a smooth spin on the downhills and learn when to sprint to maximize momentum on an uphill. Both of which will serve you well for any type of riding. Plus they are just plain fun to ride - the silence of no clicking pawls, along with the direct connection of the pedaling to the resulting motion make for a really great ride.
I'm an older, fatter rider and I have no problems with getting up & down the rolling hills in Virginia and Colorado. It's definitely worth at least trying one out - just give yourself time to adjust to no coasting, especially at stops/intersections. When I got back into biking I went through a similar process of figuring out what bike would serve me best, and I bought a Jamis Ventura thinking a road bike would be great for me, but it now sits pretty much unused in favor of my 25 year old Bridgestone fixed gear conversion.
Of course all the bikes you listed are nice, and it would hard to make a bad choice - it really depends on the type of riding you'll be doing. I've also tried the changing tires/wheelset routine and it does get very tiresome - I think you're better off with a separate bike, but take your time figuring out what you really enjoy.
Jim C
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Thanks but I'm not all that fond of the fixie idea as I do have hills to climb. I live on the cliff and all the best places to go biking are down the hill which means I have to climb on the way back.
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Same here, I love the idea of a fixie, but I'd never be able to go home :(
Man, what is wrong with you people, you have me back at bikes direct.com looking at a cheap dawes or Windsor. I don't have that kind of money :?
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Maybe you could get a fixie/single-speed with the one gear as a climbing gear...it would then teach you about high-cadence riding on the flats and downhills... 8)
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While you guys are deciding what bike Josh should get, I've been out riding! lol
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/38445_144923198851411_1000000119643.jpg)
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While you guys are deciding what bike Josh should get, I've been out riding! lol
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/38445_144923198851411_1000000119643.jpg)
I'm jealous because I don't have anyone to take a photo of me riding...! :green:
I did a 56 miler yesterday with a friend...relatively flat (only about 1000ft of climbing) at just under 20mph average speed...still enough to wipe me out for today...!
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A fixie is a lot harder in your mind then it actually is to ride once you try it. There will definitely be some grades you have trouble getting up, but probably far fewer than you'd imagine. I have a flip flop hub, with a 2 tooth difference on the cogs, since I thought for sure I'd need it for some climbs, but to be honest I've never needed it.
Another cheap way to try a fixie, is just buy an older garage sale bike with horizontal dropouts and a new fixed hub rear wheel - shouldn't be too hard to accomplish for something in the $200 dollar neighborhood. That's basically what I did, but I already had the bike I had bought back in the mid-eighties. For $500 - $600 you can set up something very slick and customized to your particular tastes - pedals, saddle, bars, stem, etc.
If you do go this route, make sure you are aware of the dangers of a fixie, like cutting off a finger if you are careless while lubing up a chain - not likely to happen, but you just need to be aware of things and use appropriate caution.
The fixie really was a revelation for me, it seemed gimicky before I tried it, but I really respected all of the advice I had gotten from the Sheldon Brown website and he was very into fixies - and it wasn't too expensive to give it a shot - I just absolutely love it now. It makes riding fun the way it was when I was a kid. And as an added benefit it is my fastest most reliable bike.
Jim C
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North Carolina is just one of the best places to ride bikes! ;)
While you guys are deciding what bike Josh should get, I've been out riding! lol
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/38445_144923198851411_1000000119643.jpg)
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Hey Phil, would you say that those hills near San Mateo are difficult for a beginner?
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Hey Phil, would you say that those hills near San Mateo are difficult for a beginner?
On the route that I rode, there was one particular hill that I could see a beginner having some difficulty on (basically the last section of road that takes you up from Hillsborough up to Skyline Blvd)...but the steep section is pretty short, and based on what you've written here about your riding, I'm pretty sure that you'd be able to handle it. For me, the hardest part about that hill was that it was very early in the ride, so you don't get any real warm-up before it.
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That's good to know, Phil, thanks. I talked my friend into riding with me, I will mostly be concerned for his ability to last 40 miles. Maybe we won't have to ride that section from his house...he is more fit than me, though he hasn't ridden as many miles.
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If you go on a Sunday, the section on Canada Rd (pronounced Can-YA-da) is actually closed off to cars and open only to bikes and runner...it's about a 5-7 mile stretch and very beautiful! A lot of people drive to the start of Canada Rd with their bikes and ride from there (and avoid the steep hill getting up there)....
Also note that on my MapMyRide route, there are a couple of little detours I took to stop off at my sister's home (the part that takes you on Sharon Park Drive)...so you could probably cut those sections out....
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wow, I talked my friend into buying pedals, shoes, shorts, slicks, tubes, tire levers...now I can only hope I'm up for the ride.
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wow, I talked my friend into buying pedals, shoes, shorts, slicks, tubes, tire levers...now I can only hope I'm up for the ride.
Does he have a bike? :duh: :lol: 8)
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oh crap! I better call him up and make sure :eyebrows:
he has a FS mtb and never i ntended to ride it on the road, so i feel kinda bad for talking him into this. oh well.
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I went down to the Champs Elysees this afternoon and took a few photos that I'd thought you'd like to see. (I can post a few more if you'd like.)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33138)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33139)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33140)
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WOW!! Our man in Paris. It's really kinda neat to feel connected personally to the event through you. Post away.
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OK!
They go towards the left up to the Arc de Triomphe.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33141)
Two minutes later they come down the Champs. There's Alberto Contador, the winner, in yellow - though I imagine most of you know that already!
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33142)
Lance Armstrong in the center in red.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33143)
I took these with a point and shoot camera with my arms outstretched as far as I could to get over the couple of people in front of me. The rest of the photos that I took were more or less the same. You're pretty much stuck in one place trying to get the best position to take photos. As they zip around 8 times, people leave and you get better positioning that you don't want to leave. It was generally 3-4 people deep with tons of people constantly walking up and down the large sidewalks.
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Awesome pictures! I have always dreamed about visiting France during the TdF and seeing it up close.... :green:
Ironic that Alberto won by the exact 39 seconds that he gained off of Schleck's chain-suck problem...
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Agreed! :thumb:
Awesome pictures! I have always dreamed about visiting France during the TdF and seeing it up close.... :green:
Ironic that Alberto won by the exact 39 seconds that he gained off of Schleck's chain-suck problem...
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Awesome pictures! I have always dreamed about visiting France during the TdF and seeing it up close.... :green:
Ironic that Alberto won by the exact 39 seconds that he gained off of Schleck's chain-suck problem...
Yeah, that sucked! :roll: That's why I'm not a fan of Contador any more. As soon as Schleck slipped quite a bit, Contador took off at high speed.
As for watching the TdF, your best view is really on TV. Watching on the Champs is really neat (if you don't mind packed crowds) because you know who's won already and you get to see them come around 8 times.
Not to discourage you to see it if you'd like - but France is expensive. Then there's the problem of finding places to stay during the Tour - book early! You wait for hours for them to come by at 40 mph and then zip! they're gone - unless you're watching on the climbs. The time trials are not so bad as you get to see each rider individually. It's best to watch them going slower around hard corners.
Plus, you never get to see on TV the parade of very noisy advertising vehicles (Festina watches, Haribo candies, etc.) that come by an hour before the racers for a half an hour, one after another blaring their music and announcements on HORRIBLE PA speakers! :slap: :guns: Bring ear plugs to wear under your noise cancellation headphones!
But obviously, it is cool to see the actual racers during the race. One year here in Paris, I saw the old T-Mobile team going to the bus and saw Ullrich and even patted Andreas Kloden on the arm as he passed by (he was third that year.)
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Denver has just implemented one of the coolest biking ideas I've seen (for non "serious" bikers). $5 gets you a day-long rental at a large number of biking "kiosks". You pull your bike out, pedal to where you want to go, and lock your bike back into the local kiosk. When you are ready to leave, you just unhook the bike that's at the kiosk and pedal it back to your destination. For people like me (with no place to store a bike), it's a god-send.
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Got out for some climbing intervals this evening and finished up at 6000' elevation. Here's a pic from the top. :)
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/BRP7-28-10panocopynew.jpg)
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Man that is gorgeous!
Today I went for a ride with my friend/neighbor and managed to forget to zip my litttle under the seat bag and loose my wallet. :duh: Hours later I filed a police report and cancelled all my cards. Did manage to do two laps up and down the 14th St viaduct which is probably 1/3 mile long* and 300' tall, in addition to a loop around Hoboken (1 mile square). Not exactly a century ride, but still got the old heart rate up.
Loving the bike. Need to tune the gears already. Front disc rubbing a bit and rear derailler not quite tuned right. Guess I stressed the cables some on my off-road ride.
Part of me thinks I would have had more fun on a 69er. (wouldn't we all? :icon_twisted:) Can't ride a wheelie too easily on a 29er and I used to be damn good on a 26er. I could also endo hop quite a bit on a 26er. (don't know the right lingo).
*Bing say its 0.7miles...haven't done the elevation yet.
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Good job on the ride, Josh! Although that sucks about the wallet...I've definitely lost a lot of stuff from my saddle bag because of forgetting to zip it up, which is why I now only put some cash, 1 credit card and an ID in it when I ride (rather than my whole wallet).
How long did the ride take you to do?
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Got out for some climbing intervals this evening and finished up at 6000' elevation.
That's one of my favorite areas in the east! :thumb:
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Got out for some climbing intervals this evening and finished up at 6000' elevation. Here's a pic from the top. :)
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/BRP7-28-10panocopynew.jpg)
That must be a fun ride down!
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I have to get a bike computer so I know how far and how fast. I wasn't really watching as I had to go by the police station and report my wallet missing.
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Here's a good web site that allows you to map out your routes and determine mileage and elevation/total ascent:
www.mapmyride.com
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Josh,
Congrats on getting the bike out for a longer ride. Bigger wheel bikes (like your 29") are faster rolling but with a higher center of gravity, more difficult to ride a wheely compared to a 26" mtb or a smaller BMX bike. It's a tradeoff but a good one because the larger wheel bike will be easier to ride longer distances.
Sorry to hear about the wallet. I have several bike computers (Cateye wireless, Cateye with cadence, etc.) and absolutely love my Garmin Edge 500. It measures HR, cadence, temp, altitude (has barometric altimeter built in), HR zones, moving average speed, and is compatible with Ant+ devices, i.e., Powertap, and is a GPS. Best of all, you just plug it in to your computer after a ride and it downloads data and tracks it on the Garmin site. I picked mine up at Probikekit.com for $249 with wireless cadence upgrade and HR monitor but you can get the one without HR and cadence for under $200 at PBK. It will work with most existing HR monitors and you can always get the cadence function separately at a later date if you wish. It also tracks your speed via GPS and shows a map of everywhere you ride. All you have to do is plug it in and hit the "Upload" button to upload data. You can even see a sattelite view on Google Maps of where you traveled. Here is my training ride from last night. Too much traffice slowing us down but the readout should give you an idea as to what the little Garmin can do. I love the Edge 500!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/42119744
Bike WNC, WOW! Beautiful pictures. You are lucky to live in such a beautiful area with lots of challenging hills. Where I live, it is flat as a pancake but very windy. My elevation at the end of a long ride is a joke. Unfortunately, I don't have anything that measures wind and don't have a powertap to measure watts (yet!). Thanks for sharing the pictures!
Jack
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Here's a good web site that allows you to map out your routes and determine mileage and elevation/total ascent:
www.mapmyride.com
Phil, cool site. The little Garmin 500 does that for you and automatically tracks map data, speed, etc. Garminconnect is what makes it so easy. Very well thought software!
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I'm pretty sure you can use your Garmin 500 with MapMyRide.com as well... :thumb: They also have an iPhone app that will do what the Garmin stuff does (albeit not as well, and the battery life on the iPhone won't help you on a long ride)....
I've definitely been thinking about getting a Garmin unit. 3 of the guys in my riding group have them (2 have the 705, one has the 500), and they all really like it. Am trying to decide which one I would want to get...the mapping features on the 705 are pretty cool, but I'm not sure if I want to get something that distracts me too much from enjoying the ride. Also, the 500 is a newer unit and reported has more accurate altitude/climb measuring.
Am going to wait to see if Garmin introduces any new products at Interbike in September before deciding....
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I'm pretty sure you can use your Garmin 500 with MapMyRide.com as well... :thumb: They also have an iPhone app that will do what the Garmin stuff does (albeit not as well, and the battery life on the iPhone won't help you on a long ride)....
I've definitely been thinking about getting a Garmin unit. 3 of the guys in my riding group have them (2 have the 705, one has the 500), and they all really like it. Am trying to decide which one I would want to get...the mapping features on the 705 are pretty cool, but I'm not sure if I want to get something that distracts me too much from enjoying the ride. Also, the 500 is a newer unit and reported has more accurate altitude/climb measuring.
Am going to wait to see if Garmin introduces any new products at Interbike in September before deciding....
Good idea! I like the 500 because it's compact and easy to use. The 705 has more functions (GPS directions) but is large and expensive. If you have a wireless cadence unit and HR monitor, you can get the 500 for under $200 if you shop around. I wish I bought this before spending over $100 on several Cateye computers. The Cateye computers work well but they only track basic things like speed and cadence, etc. The Garmin is way more useful and it works with a powertap (ant+). I'm looking for a used powertap (hopefully after Interpbike).
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I have this cadence debate with some of my cycling buddies. I used to have a cadence monitor on my old bike computer, but when that computer broke, I replaced it with one that didn't have cadence on it. My rational was that after riding as much as I have, I feel like I've got a pretty good sense of what my cadence is...and that every time I would look at my cadence monitor, it would usually be within +/-3 of what I expect it to be. In general, I am able to get into a very nice rhythm at about an 85rpm cadence and know pretty much how that feels, adjusting my gearing accordingly to get me into that rhythm on various gradients. So I thought "why spend the extra money for cadence if everytime I look at it, it's around the same number that I would expect it to be?" My buddies think that it's important to have the cadence number as a guide/target, and that my "+/-3rpms" isn't accurate enough...
I suspect that if I ever got a power meter, I'd be more interested in cadence...but I'm not sure if I want to invest in the $2K+ that a power meter costs, let alone change my wheel or cranks to power meter-compatible products. That said, using power meter and heart rate for training is probably the most useful set of tools for improving performance without a doubt. Maybe if I was younger and racing I could justify it... :(
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Josh,
Congrats on getting the bike out for a longer ride. Bigger wheel bikes (like your 29") are faster rolling but with a higher center of gravity, more difficult to ride a wheely compared to a 26" mtb or a smaller BMX bike. It's a tradeoff but a good one because the larger wheel bike will be easier to ride longer distances.
Sorry to hear about the wallet. I have several bike computers (Cateye wireless, Cateye with cadence, etc.) and absolutely love my Garmin Edge 500. It measures HR, cadence, temp, altitude (has barometric altimeter built in), HR zones, moving average speed, and is compatible with Ant+ devices, i.e., Powertap, and is a GPS. Best of all, you just plug it in to your computer after a ride and it downloads data and tracks it on the Garmin site. I picked mine up at Probikekit.com for $249 with wireless cadence upgrade and HR monitor but you can get the one without HR and cadence for under $200 at PBK. It will work with most existing HR monitors and you can always get the cadence function separately at a later date if you wish. It also tracks your speed via GPS and shows a map of everywhere you ride. All you have to do is plug it in and hit the "Upload" button to upload data. You can even see a sattelite view on Google Maps of where you traveled. Here is my training ride from last night. Too much traffice slowing us down but the readout should give you an idea as to what the little Garmin can do. I love the Edge 500!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/42119744
Bike WNC, WOW! Beautiful pictures. You are lucky to live in such a beautiful area with lots of challenging hills. Where I live, it is flat as a pancake but very windy. My elevation at the end of a long ride is a joke. Unfortunately, I don't have anything that measures wind and don't have a powertap to measure watts (yet!). Thanks for sharing the pictures!
Jack
I've been using cateye products on my mountain and road bikes. I could never justify spending the money on a GPS. After seeing your post though, I think I might get one. Leaning toward the forerunner 305.
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I have this cadence debate with some of my cycling buddies. I used to have a cadence monitor on my old bike computer, but when that computer broke, I replaced it with one that didn't have cadence on it. My rational was that after riding as much as I have, I feel like I've got a pretty good sense of what my cadence is...and that every time I would look at my cadence monitor, it would usually be within +/-3 of what I expect it to be. In general, I am able to get into a very nice rhythm at about an 85rpm cadence and know pretty much how that feels, adjusting my gearing accordingly to get me into that rhythm on various gradients. So I thought "why spend the extra money for cadence if everytime I look at it, it's around the same number that I would expect it to be?" My buddies think that it's important to have the cadence number as a guide/target, and that my "+/-3rpms" isn't accurate enough...
I suspect that if I ever got a power meter, I'd be more interested in cadence...but I'm not sure if I want to invest in the $2K+ that a power meter costs, let alone change my wheel or cranks to power meter-compatible products. That said, using power meter and heart rate for training is probably the most useful set of tools for improving performance without a doubt. Maybe if I was younger and racing I could justify it... :(
Hi Phil,
I'm relatively new to road cycling (just got a bike in August) and looking for every edge possible because my group is very fast. I have a problem with cadence because I tend to grind big gears and stomp on the pedals. Higher cadence helps me save my legs from burning out too early and helps me ride more efficiently. The data from my last ride is deceptive because I was drafting another rider and pushing a big gear makes it easier for me to maintain a constant speed without crashing into the other rider. That's why my cadence looks so choppy on the ride. Hopefully with more practice I can develop the consistency you have. Without a meter, I tend to revert to my bad habits - low cadence.
Cadence monitors are inexpensive, my old wired Cateye computer was about $40 bucks at Performance and worked well. This Garmin is a completely different animal. It has a barometric altimeter, tracks temp, cadence, HR, speed, maps, and gives it to you automatically on the Garmin site. Lots of riders in my group have Powertaps and power meters. They are pretty expensive if you buy they new and probably not necessary for non-racers, but used ones can be affordable. I'm looking for a used wireless or even a wired unit.
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I've been using cateye products on my mountain and road bikes. I could never justify spending the money on a GPS. After seeing your post though, I think I might get one. Leaning toward the forerunner 305.
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The Forerunner 305 is great if you bike and run. The 500 is bike specific and not useful for runners. I have a Forerunner 305 in perfect condition on loan from a friend who just picked up a 500. It might be for sale if you are interested (need to check with my friend first). It has HR strap, charger, and everything it came with. I've had it for months and used it once. I'll check with my friend to see if he wants to sell it if anyone is interested.
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Have you seen this power meter?
http://www.ibikesports.com/
They say it's accurate to within 10% of a PowerTap, but it's less than $500...have heard of durability issues, tho...still, a very cool idea/take on power meter devices...
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The Forerunner 305 is great if you bike and run. The 500 is bike specific and not useful for runners. I have a Forerunner 305 in perfect condition on loan from a friend who just picked up a 500. It might be for sale if you are interested (need to check with my friend first). It has HR strap, charger, and everything it came with. I've had it for months and used it once. I'll check with my friend to see if he wants to sell it if anyone is interested.
I don't run much, but I ride dirtbikes and fourwheelers in addition to mountain and road bikes. It seems like the 305 with the quick release strap and bike mounts would be easiest for me.
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Have you seen this power meter?
http://www.ibikesports.com/
They say it's accurate to within 10% of a PowerTap, but it's less than $500...have heard of durability issues, tho...still, a very cool idea/take on power meter devices...
Very cool. I am not familiar with that unit but will keep watching. I'm also not a good early adapter because I like to buy after knowing more about the product. Lots' of my friends use Powertap units so I know they work and they are durable. A bit heavy and a PITA because you need to build the hub into a wheel or buy one already built but they work well. Also, I have seen used ones for around $500. That's the direction I'm leaning.
Cheers,
Jack
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I don't run much, but I ride dirtbikes and fourwheelers in addition to mountain and road bikes. It seems like the 305 with the quick release strap and bike mounts would be easiest for me.
Not for anything but the 500 is very easy to unmount and swap to another bike. If you only ride bikes, I'd go with the 500. Don't know why you would need one for a dirtbike or a fourwheeler but it works well for bikes. For the money, it's pretty cool.
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Not for anything but the 500 is very easy to unmount and swap to another bike. If you only ride bikes, I'd go with the 500. Don't know why you would need one for a dirtbike or a fourwheeler but it works well for bikes. For the money, it's pretty cool.
It's fun to know max speed, average speed, lap times, etc.... The trail is a little to narrow to pass safely on 4wheelers, so knowing lap times is also a safer way to race.
Here's a quick video showing part of one of our fourwheeler / mountain bike tracks. Doesn't look that fast in the video, but we're probably 60+ mph on some of the straights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5LRZt8cTqg
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Re: Cadence
Don't forget. You need to do both a long steady cadence to build up endurance and short intense bursts (there are more informational articles out there on training than in my head) to build power.
Phil,
Those guys who tell you you need to keep such a steady cadence are anal. Unless you're training to race and win, just have fun.
charlie
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I love bike touring in Switzerland. (Fortunately, I have a friend there that I can stay with.) Here's a shot in Italy just on the other side of the border. (Yes, we rode up from the town below.)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33249)
There are more photos on my blog entry when I did it last September. Going down the switchbacks was really fun.
http://charmerci.blogspot.com/2009/09/i-arrived-in-bern-on-2nd.html
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Well as an effort to force myself into fitness dedication, I bought a roadie. I can only hit the off-road on the weekends as it is too far to travel after getting home after 7:30 before sun down. Now the oanis is on him to keep up with me.
The new ride: Cannondale CAAD 9 5. Charcoal with red and white.
Went for a ride just a bit ago through JC into Liberty State Park. A variation on our standard ride. John's bike computer put it at 14 miles, but mapmyride put it at 10.4. I am thinking the computer is wrong. Just about an hour, given the amount of traffic and street lights to content with and given it was my first ride on this bike, I'd think its a starting point.
The new ride is WAY faster than my MTB on road. It feels like it weighs half as much, but i am guessing its more like 20lbs vs 29lbs. It is way way way more responsive on the road, which makes it much easier to avoid the crappy details of JC's roads.
To end the ride, there is a pretty steep switch back climb, that I did without stopping. Given the lack of shape I am in, I am happy with that. Little victories.
http://www.mapmyride.com/route/us/nj/jersey%20city/900128061942984930
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Congrats on the new wheels!
I suspect that the bike computer is miscalibrated...
Give me a shout when you want to try stretching out on a longer road ride...the roads around me are great! 8)
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Congrats on the new bike Josh. Seems like you enjoyed the ride.
Nice pick-up too, the Cad 9's is one of the better aluminum frames made.
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A photo from the Rocket Ride out of Nyack, NY this morning (stopped at a traffic light...one of the few that we actually stopped at!):
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33419)
Photo was taken from about the mid-point of the peloton (ie. about the same number of riders behind me as there are in this photo). Avg speed on the flats for this group was about 27mph....total ride was 50 miles...
Here is the route (mapped out starting from near my house to include getting to the point where I joined the peloton):
http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/nj/closter/223128068305889881
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Great picture Phil. Wish the riding groups around here +/- 70 people it them.
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Wanted to ask you roadies about shoes. I just got a cheap pair of MTB SPD pedals for the Cannondale, but may consider investing in seperate shoes/pedals for the road. What kind of pedals do you guys use? Are they called SPD-SL?
Obviously, I know nothing about them other than the LBS guys told me there were different shoes/pedals for road biking. My MTB shoes/pedals are SIDI/Shimano XT Deore. I am just using the SIDI shoes and cheap SPD pedals but I think there just isn't as much support, so I am considering at some point investing in the shoes.
I did another 5 miles or so tonight, with a mild climb. Just getting the feels of the new bike. I really like how it handles. But you feel everything, unlike riding the MTB on the road.
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I am currently using Time RXS Carbon pedals. Love the clip-in action and the platform...however, I will be switching shortly to Look Keo 2 Max Carbon pedals. The problem with the Time system is that the cleats are not very durable, and replacement cleats are expensive ($40/pair).
Am using Sidi Genius 5 shoes and like them very much because I have narrow feet....
Have tried Speedplay pedals but did not like them very much...they don't have a very big contact platform and they feel like you are on ice-skates imho....
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Josh,
Don't be in too much of a hurry to spend your money. Take your time and get it right. I know a surprising number of roadies who use MTB shoes and SPD pedals on their road bikes. For those riders the most common shoe seems to be the Sidi Dominator mountain version. They are good for riding and better for walking than the roadie shoes/cleats.
It must be a good combo because that is what I ride. My three bikes (MTB, road, and bent) all have the same pedals. One pair of shoes could do it all but I defer to an older pair of Dominators for dirty work. The Dominators also come in a "mega" model which is wider. That may account for some popularity. That is what won my heart and feet.
Pedal pressure is not just a function of cleat style or surface area. The stiffness of the shoe sole is a major factor. I think that is why the Dominators are so popular. I don't feel pressure when I stand to climb.
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The problem with the Time system is that the cleats are not very durable, and replacement cleats are expensive
Couldn't agree with you more, Phil. It irks me that both the cleats on my Time/Atac and my favorite, Crank Bros. are made of some type of soft brass alloy. You pay that much for a pedal system, and they do that to you??? I've got some Shimano cleats that I've had for years, and they have not worn down.
I've just been immersed for the last hour reading about IGH (internal gear hub) systems.
Rohloff Speed hubs are just too dear, but Shimano is releasing a new 11 speed model this October. A lot of MtB'ers, commuters, and touring people are getting excited.
Lyndon
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Wanted to ask you roadies about shoes. I just got a cheap pair of MTB SPD pedals for the Cannondale, but may consider investing in seperate shoes/pedals for the road. What kind of pedals do you guys use? Are they called SPD-SL?
Obviously, I know nothing about them other than the LBS guys told me there were different shoes/pedals for road biking. My MTB shoes/pedals are SIDI/Shimano XT Deore. I am just using the SIDI shoes and cheap SPD pedals but I think there just isn't as much support, so I am considering at some point investing in the shoes.
I did another 5 miles or so tonight, with a mild climb. Just getting the feels of the new bike. I really like how it handles. But you feel everything, unlike riding the MTB on the road.
Congrats on the new bike! Cannondale CAAD9's have a well deserved cult-like following and are one of the best aluminum frames you can get.
Regarding the shoes (please keep in mind, you should always try them on to see which ones work best for you), I like Sidi shoes. I currently have Sidi Genius 5.5's and they work very well for me. They are stiff, comfortable and all of the key parts are replaceable (heel, strap, buckle, etc.). They are made in Italy and they fit me well. If you have wide feet, Sidi makes a wide version (same name, Mega version). Probikekit.com has lots of sizes and styles, but I prefer to buy locally because it's important to try them on first. Once you have your size down, replacements from PBK are a good option.
For pedals, most people I know fall into two camps, Look and Speedplay. There are a couple Time and Shimano users but 90% of the people I know use Look or Speedplay. I have Look Keo Sprints and love they way they perform. They are weighted and easy to clip into and the cleats are relatively inexpensive, and they offer two degrees of float. Most of my friends love (and use) Speedplay pedals. They also offer float, are durable and they have dual entry (you can clip into them from both sides, like mountainbike pedals).
Road pedals are better for road cycling, especially after you start to ride longer distances (50+ miles) because they have a wider platform (less likely to give you hot spots on your feet) and give you better power transfer. Road shoes are great for riding (stiff and lightweight with good ventilation) but difficult to walk in, compared to MTB shoes. Also, most road pedals (time, look, shimano, etc.) have single side entry, you can only clip in on one side. Speedplay is the only exception, their pedals allow you to clip in on both sides of the pedal.
Once you start putting a lot of time in the saddle, you may want to look at getting a saddle that fits you properly. If the stock saddle fits the bill, consider yourself lucky. The saddle that came with my Trek was a cheap throw-away. I tested everything and wound up with a Fizik Arione and like it a lot. Saddles are a personal choice and everyone's preference is different. You might want to find a shop that lets you test different models to see which one works for you. Fizik and Specialized have good test programs with local shops.
Good luck with the new bike! Road cycling is a lot of fun and very addictive. Once you get your bike fit dialed in, I suspect you will have a blast. Off-road biking is fun, but going FAST on a road bike is a different kind of fun.
Cheers,
Jack
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Punched out another 13 miles last night. Found a very good loop in Liberty State Park along the bridge next to the SOL and Ellis Island.
Thing about riding in JC is riding through the city is a bit nerve racking. I am not so stressed about the cars as I am the pedestrians and people getting out of their cars. I've had pedestrians step off the curb right in front of me without even looking.
I clipped a guy in Hoboken on the bike path. He was walking in the bike path, not watching where he was going. I went to go around him and he turned and stepped into me. Fortunately, his forearm just clipped mine and noone was hurt.
I've almost got taken out by a car door opening too. Wish there were more bike friendly places to ride around JC without driving out somewhere. JC is not bike friendly, but there is an effort to change that.
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Thing about riding in JC is riding through the city is a bit nerve racking. I am not so stressed about the cars as I am the pedestrians and people getting out of their cars. I've had pedestrians step off the curb right in front of me without even looking.
I've almost got taken out by a car door opening too. Wish there were more bike friendly places to ride around JC without driving out somewhere. JC is not bike friendly, but there is an effort to change that.
I've been cycling in Paris for a long while. They don't open the car doors in your path - but you can sure bet that they step in front of you without looking.
What I do now is scan everything and anyone - I assume that every person will step out in front of me (I pass hundreds of them daily - especially since they stupidly put some of the bike paths on the sidewalks!!! Switzerland does bike paths the best, by far) as well as assume that every car will turn in front of me or stop suddenly. Trust me, with practice, you can get better.
Good luck!!!
It will be nice to return back to the West in the fall - riding wise.
charlie
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I agree that you have to assume all car doors will open in front of you, and all people will walk in front of you. While commuting I found the most dangerous spots to be schools where parents were dropping off or picking up kids. The parents behave like psychotic homicidal maniacs.
Another trend I noticed is that you can judge the angst of drivers by the time of day, a road that is safe at 8am will be filled with aggressive drivers at 8:55 trying to get to work on time. And a road that typically has courteous drivers in the morning, will have totally reckless and aggressive drivers in the evening after they've spent several hours fighting traffic.
Jim C
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It is also prudent to assume you really cannot be seen. :no_see:
I ride so I am very considerate and wary of bike riders. I almost took a rider out while pulling out of a parking lot. There were cars parked on the street and some of them were SUVs and vans. The rider was riding close to the parked vehicles. I looked at traffic very closelly but literally did not see the the rider until he got to a point where there was only a mere car parked. That was enough warning for me to stop but I still got a dirty look because I was out a little too far.
The point is I was being careful but road conditions prevented me from seeing the rider. Same thing happened in a cross walk that had a bus parked next to it. I could not see the pedestrians until they cleared the front of the bus.
Lesson for the day: Just because you can see them, does not mean they can see you and the flip/flop of that.
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I've only put in a few hundred miles of commuting, but I thank God every time I get to work or get back home - without a close call. It's hard for me to go a week without a close call or even two, and I only ride twice a week, max. Last thing that happened to me, I was lane splitting with a bus on the right and clipped a side view mirror at the very end - went down in front of the car. Luckily, they were stopped at the intersection.
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I definitely ride with the same assumption. I was just ranting. Pedestrians in the city as sometimes completely clueless.
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I definitely ride with the same assumption. I was just ranting. Pedestrians in the city as sometimes completely clueless.
Clueless - a euphemism for stupid! :lol:
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How much faster would I feel on a road bike vs my rockhopper 29er hard tail with front shock locked and slick tires? It would have to be an inexpensive road bike, and not too aggressive in terms of position and handling, since i don't think i could take it.
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Setting aside the question of price, one can get a road bike in the range of 16-18lbs which I assume will be quite a few pounds lighter than your Rockhopper. Also, 700C road tires are little skinny one-inch wide tires and they also should feel (and be) quite a bit faster than any mountain bike wheels, even slicks.
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How much faster would I feel on a road bike vs my rockhopper 29er hard tail with front shock locked and slick tires? It would have to be an inexpensive road bike, and not too aggressive in terms of position and handling, since i don't think i could take it.
Much of it would depend on the gearing. Your wheel diameter wouldn't be much different, and you'd only really notice the weight difference on the hills. But with road gearing, you'll be able to get to faster speeds overall...
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The roadie....for jackman...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33649)
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I use 700c x 37 wheels and have a top gear of 44 x 11. I can't hit that gear at a decent cadence unless I'm going downhill :duh: I do exceed my max cadence going downhill, but I'm not really all that eager to die :oops: I could switch to a 700c x 25 or thereabouts, but I'm deathly afraid of flats on my 20 mile each way commute. I do tackle a 3-4 mile hill every time I take that commute, though.
*sigh* I want one, but don't really have the money, now. Maybe by next year's commute season, I'll have some more money in my pocket. It doesn't really sound like I'll feel the benefits, especially at my weight.
Sweet bike, Josh!
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How much faster would I feel on a road bike vs my rockhopper 29er hard tail with front shock locked and slick tires? It would have to be an inexpensive road bike, and not too aggressive in terms of position and handling, since i don't think i could take it.
The biggest difference between a traditional road bike and your bike is riding position. A road bike will be lower to the ground and have a longer top tube for a faster, aero riding position. There are other differences (weight, tires, frame stiffness, etc.) but I think the riding position is something you could never achieve with your existing bike. It might not matter if you just want to ride around by yourself or other guys on mountainbikes. If you plan to ride with other road cyclists, you will need something with more traditional road geometry. There are several bikes with relaxed geometry that will fit the bill. If your budget is tight, you might want to check craigslist.
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The roadie....for jackman...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33649)
Sweet ride! Now we're talkin'! :thumb:
I love the looks of that bike and wish you all the best. If you want to take some of the edge off of the ride (especially if you ride long distances), try Continental GP4000 tires. I let four people test my bike, after I installed the GP's, and all four switched to Conti tires.
Most of all, just ride it! As your flexibility improves, you may want to remove a couple spacers to lower those bars and then flip that stem to get a more aero position, but don't do it until you are ready. Comfort and proper fit should be top priorities. If you feel numbness or pain, have your shop adjust your fit. I learned this the hard way!
Good luck,
Jack
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How much faster would I feel on a road bike vs my rockhopper 29er hard tail with front shock locked and slick tires?
Try the slicks on the MB. You will be really surprised at how much easier it is to ride compared with having 2+ inch knobbies.
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Jackman,
Thanks for the tip on the Continental tires which are selling at reduced prices on-line. I am currently restoring my herd of vintage steel road bikes after a long absence from riding. I was a serious rider between the late 70s and early 90s often logging 9,000 or miles annually. After gaining too many extra pounds, I decided to start riding again.
All of my bikes are considered classics now and were equipped with either Camp SR or Shimano Dura Ace components. My herd includes two custom frames from Scott Paisley and Matt Assenmacher. I also own a Gios Torino Pro, a Pinarello, and Basso all in Columbus double tubing and a 531 Reynolds tubed Harry Quinn. You can see examples of all of my bikes at http://www.classicrendezvous.com/
When I rode seriously, all of my wheels were equipped with tubular or sew up rims which I am converting to clincher rims. You tip on the Continental tires is timely as I was shopping for tires
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Try the slicks on the MB. You will be really surprised at how much easier it is to ride compared with having 2+ inch knobbies.
I know, I'm using 700c x 37, it makes a big difference.
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Tybee,
You have some awesome bikes! Here is a link to the Conti GP4000's from Probikekit.com. If you use TDFUSA you get an additional 10% off. This brings the delivered price of a pair down to $67.87. That is impossible to beat (the price is for a pair, delivered).
These tires are made in Germany and will transform your ride. They ride like tubulars but are clinchers. I'm thinking about getting a backup pair! Probikekit has great prices on everything. I've ordered from them several times and the stuff always arrives quickly.
http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=Y0072 (http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=Y0072)
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Jackman...what other tires have you tried, and how would you compare them? My favorite road tire right now is the Vredestein Fortezza TriComp, which imho has a great combination of weight, speed and durability. Previously, I rode Michelin Pro Race 3 and Vittoria Open Corsa CX (both of which were very good, but not very durable), and Pro Race 2 before that (loved them, but they don't make it anymore)...
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I'm also a big fan of Continental tires, although from a durability commuting perspective. I have had great performance from the Ultra Gatorskins, and my ride often included dirt, gravel, potholes, thorns, and broken glass. They seemed to have the best combo of comfort/performance/durability out of what I've tried.
Jim C
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I'm also a big fan of Continental tires, although from a durability commuting perspective. I have had great performance from the Ultra Gatorskins, and my ride often included dirt, gravel, potholes, thorns, and broken glass. They seemed to have the best combo of comfort/performance/durability out of what I've tried.
Jim C
I use the Gatorskins on my fixie...
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Tybee,
Much of the older gear you have is worth some pretty good coin now. So you could sell one of your rides or the parts, and step into a newer bike. Unless you want to keep riding your sewups, imagine you are looking at $300+ for new wheels. May make more sense to sell and use that $300 for something new? Not to say that's what you'd want to do though.
Regards,
Jeff
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Jackman...what other tires have you tried, and how would you compare them? My favorite road tire right now is the Vredestein Fortezza TriComp, which imho has a great combination of weight, speed and durability. Previously, I rode Michelin Pro Race 3 and Vittoria Open Corsa CX (both of which were very good, but not very durable), and Pro Race 2 before that (loved them, but they don't make it anymore)...
Hi Phil,
Good question. My bike came with Bontrager 25mm Race Lite AC tires that were very durable and flat-resistant but extremely harsh riding. I swapped them for Gatorskins which rode a bit better but still were too harsh for the rough roads my group typically rides. My neighbor gave me a set of Specialized S-works tires (don't recall the model but they are in the garage at the moment so I can check if anyone wants to know). They say "Dual compound" on the label. These tires were a step down from the Gatorskins, IMO, in terms of ride.
The GP4000's have the best ride of any tire I have tried. Please note, I only have approximately 2000 miles on mine but I havent gotten any flats and they seem to be wearing nicely. I have not tried the Pro Race 3's but have read accounts of several people on Bikeforums.net (under road cycling) comparing them to GP4000's. The GP's feel and ride softer but do not appear as flat resistant as Gatorskins or the Bontrager tires. So far, so good!
Cheers,
J
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Phil,
More of a tubbie guy than clinchers, but of those I have ridden. My faves are the GP's already mentioned, Attack/Force, and Schwalbe Ultemo's. Nice thing about the Schwalbe's is they are right around 24 in width, just about pefect imo.
I also like to step down a range and use the Rubino's, Krylion's, and Diamante's of the world. Not quite as nice of a ride, but I'll trade for the extra durability.
Really am looking to try tubeless some day.
Btw, ProBike has the TriComps for like $40 a tire. Not sure if that is a good price or not, but usually PBK is pretty competitive.
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Phil,
More of a tubbie guy than clinchers, but of those I have ridden. My faves are the GP's already mentioned, Attack/Force, and Schwalbe Ultemo's. Nice thing about the Schwalbe's is they are right around 24 in width, just about pefect imo.
I also like to step down a range and use the Rubino's, Krylion's, and Diamante's of the world. Not quite as nice of a ride, but I'll trade for the extra durability.
Really am looking to try tubeless some day.
Btw, ProBike has the TriComps for like $40 a tire. Not sure if that is a good price or not, but usually PBK is pretty competitive.
Thanks Jeff, you have much more experience in this area than I, and I always enjoy hearing what you have to say. Someday I hope to try toobs but I'm too chicken at the moment! Maybe tubeless is a good compromise.
Today was very disappointing. I rode 60 miles yesterday with my group and everything was fine until mile 50. My right knee became inflamed and was very painful. Thankfully, it didn't slow me down and a bit of ice and a couple ibuprofins helped with the pain, but I had to bag today's 80 mile ride. I originally hurt the knee around mile 75 of last Sunday's century ride. It was extremely painful but I limped home with a group of riders after being dropped by my faster group.
I've had 3 knee surgeries on my right knee (the one acting up) and I hope to avoid #4. I went to the bike shop to get my fit adjusted last night. The guy who does my fittings said the knee pain might be caused by my cleat position (I adjusted them before last week's century ride) and he made some slight changes to the cleats. This really sucks because my first 50 miles were pretty fast yesterday, and pain-free. Will ride 50 today (easy pace) to see if the knee holds up.
Cheers,
Jack
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Talking about disappointing rides, I went out for a fast solo-ride yesterday on a flat 30 mile route...ended up getting two flats in the first 17 miles, broke my pump on the second which forced me to call the support car (wife) to pick me up... :oops:
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If I were to drive up to the 9W to go on a longer ride, where is a good place to park/start?
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If I were to drive up to the 9W to go on a longer ride, where is a good place to park/start?
A lot of guys park around Strictly Bikes bike shop in Fort Lee...
http://www.strictlybicycles.com/
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Jeff,
I have acquired enough backup components to outfit my current herd to last a lifetime. Since I really enjoy the older steel frames, there is not much interest in going new. My customs do not really have many miles, so they will serve most of riding. All of my wheels support freewheels (no cassettes). My freewheel stash includes 10 Reginas, 4 Dura Ace, and 12 Suntour Ultras. Almost all are new purchased on sale years ago for less that $10 a piece.
Yesterday morning, I did a solo 20 miles over Tennessee terrain that reminds me of the first day of the Hilly Hundred held up your way. I understand Skip Higgins is still running the Hilly. When he started riding seriously again in the early 80s, I rode with him many miles on those flat Indiana roads
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well, I've ridden 6 out of the last 9 days. It feels good, comfortable and energizing. I'm only doing 10-13 miles, but its a start. The biggest problem is finding places to ride that aren't full of traffic.
Today's ride was only about 9 miles because my friend wasn't feeling well. I started him out on a long climb about 3/4 mile into the ride. He is my normal riding buddy but I've been going more often than him and he is less in shape. He also rides a hybrid bike that has a hard time keeping up with mine.
Then again, he has a hard time keeping up with me when I ride my MTB on road. He is 240 and I'm ~170 (been a while since I weighed myself since I don't have a scale). He's also a smoker.
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Good of you to keep pace with him, especially if you want to keep him as a riding buddy. I know I wouldn't want to ride with a buddy who took off on me all the time.
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Talking about disappointing rides, I went out for a fast solo-ride yesterday on a flat 30 mile route...ended up getting two flats in the first 17 miles, broke my pump on the second which forced me to call the support car (wife) to pick me up... :oops:
And you talking about tires Phil.... :duh: :jester:
(I'm kidding with you Phil.. :wink:)
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And you talking about tires Phil.... :duh: :jester:
(I'm kidding with you Phil.. :wink:)
:lol:
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Tybee,
Certainly understand your love for steel, and for the classic bike. I still keep one in my arsenal of bikes.
Yes Skip is still the managing director of the Hilly. Which about the only hilld you find in flat Indy.
Jack - I'm sure your fitter with help you out, but go easy with the cleat changes. Too much adjustments may cause more knee pain.
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I need to find a longer ride somewhere easily accessible so I can hit it after work during the week. A bit of a challenge.
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A friend and I rode Sat. on what I called the fat burner ride 8), a long zone 2- low 3 effort with 10,000ft of climbing. The actual mileage was 105.5 at a 13.25 mph average.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/43545304
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A friend and I rode Sat. on what I called the fat burner ride 8), a long zone 2- low 3 effort with 10,000ft of climbing. The actual mileage was 105.5 at a 13.25 mph average.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/43545304
Nice ride! I took yesterday off, still nursing a sore knee. Hopefully, I can get a ride in tonight. Knee is still sore but getting better.
I wish we had hills like the ones you rode. Everything around here is very flat. 105 miles with those hills must have been tough. Great ride.
Thanks,
J
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I need to find a longer ride somewhere easily accessible so I can hit it after work during the week. A bit of a challenge.
You might check with local cycling or randonneuring club websites, they'll often have routes that are good training rides on less travelled roads listed.
Jim C
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I have new build coming soon, so I felt somewhat compelled to give it some new shoes.
We'll see how well they hold up to my +/- 185lbs.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33809)
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I have new build coming soon, so I felt somewhat compelled to give it some new shoes.
We'll see how well they hold up to my +/- 185lbs.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33809)
It looks like those are tubulars. I've considered getting a tubular wheelset but I ride in remote areas often without cell service, so I've decided to stick with a good pair of clinchers. The weight is very attractive though.
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I have new build coming soon, so I felt somewhat compelled to give it some new shoes.
We'll see how well they hold up to my +/- 185lbs.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=33809)
One of my riding buddies just picked up the EA/clincher version of those wheels and loves them...however, he is much lighter than you (130lbs)....
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Phil,
Yea, time will tell. But I got the wheels at such a good price they were hard to pass up. If I need to sell them in a few months because I'm too fat, I'll not lose much.
WNC,
I'll probably piss off the tire gods and jinx myself, but I've had much better luck with sewups than clinchers. Actually think it is just as easy to change a tubular while out on the road. You can really even ride short distances on a flat and not damage the rim. Saving the extra 1/2 - 1lb of rotating mass sure is nice too.
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While on vacation (still am), I fell in love with a Wilier T one. It was $8k. For half the price I bought a Cervelo R3. :lol:
Hey Phil, I will be visiting you soon on my road training days! :)
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While on vacation (still am), I fell in love with a Wilier T one. It was $8k. For half the price I bought a Cervelo R3. :lol:
Hey Phil, I will be visiting you soon on my road training days! :)
Congrats on the new bike. I've never ridden a Cervelo, but I see lots of them in the area where I ride. They seem to be popular with the triathletes who ride the roads west of my house. One of the guys in my group has a Wilier Cento (with full Sram Red and Zipp 404's) and I'm a big fan of the bike.
I just upgraded my bike to Sram Red shifters and deraileurs (and minor things like chain and cables). Shimano 105 was great for the money but now I understand why so many people love Sram. The Red gear shifts like a Ferrari and looks pretty cool (IMO).
Cheers,
J
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While on vacation (still am), I fell in love with a Wilier T one. It was $8k. For half the price I bought a Cervelo R3. :lol:
Hey Phil, I will be visiting you soon on my road training days! :)
Cervelo??? I will raise my hand as one of those guys who is not a big Cervelo fan. Admittedly, part of it comes from really disliking the local bike shop near me that carries Cervelo (the sales guy actually had the guts to say to me "Cervelo bikes are 15% faster than any other bike on the market") :duh: But I also thought that because you have such a beautiful Merlin mountain bike that you might get something a little more off the beaten track...
Anyways, congrats on the bike! Definitely come over for a ride in my area...great roads! But not this weekend as I am headed to Colorado for the Leadville 100.... :thumb:
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Thanks Jackman!
@Phil, Thanks!
There are lots of bikes out there to choose on a $5-6K budget. Why I choose Cervelo is a matter of personal taste and riding preference. On smooth road, the Cervelo R3 is ultimately way faster than my Merlin MTB. :lol:
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Congrats on the new bike Levi. That should be quite a bit faster on the roads. What's the frame made of, carbon?
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Thanks Josh. It is a carbon frame.
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Hey!
Levi, you bought a road bike? Well, congratulation. Sound like some heavy bike there... price wise of course :lol: That will be perfect for the 5 NY boros bike tour. :D
Well, maybe we could take our road bike for spin around the city sometime.
Take care,
Buddy :thumb:
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Thanks Buddy. You should join me one of these days.
Preparing to go for a spin with the new wheels. :)
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Thanks Buddy. You should join me one of these days.
Preparing to go for a spin with the new wheels. :)
Hey!
Will try but it will be hard to do since I ain't got job with regular 9 to 5 hours desk job with weekend off. :?
And not to mention that you can ride longer than me now. :icon_lol:
But maybe.... I was thinking of taking a ride down to Brooklyn along the bike path checking out neighborhoods and old building along the way. :D
Take care,
Buddy :thumb:
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Sounds good. Just ride your bike whenever you get the chance. Sun sets much later nevertheless night rides are cool too. No excuse for not riding.
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You NYC guys have all of the fun! Wish I could join you.
I just changed jobs and it looks like I will be on the East Coast more often. Will shoot you a PM with advance notice. Please do the same if you are ever in the Chicago area. There is some good riding around here but no hills.
I rode 45 miles with my group today with relatively little knee pain. The Sram Red shifts sweet. I'm sold!
It would really be great to join my AC friends for a road cycling trip. Jeff, Levi, Josh, etc. Cycling is a bit like audio. You spend lots of time buying and evaluating gear and putting together your "system". The only difference is that the bike "don't lie". Speed and endurance have to be earned, with lots of sweat and hard work. Today my group dropped some riders with much more exotic bikes (Colnago, etc.). Have to admit it felt good!
Cheers,
Jack
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Just swapped out my pedals today...took out my Time RXS Carbons and replaced them with Look Keo 2 Max Carbons, and I have to say that I am impressed with the Looks. Entry is *much* easier than the Times, and the platform/contact surface feels really solid. I liked the Times, and they might be a hair lighter, but I think that ease-of-entry (no more playing catch-up with my group after stopping at intersections while trying to get into my pedals) and the contact platform definitely are worth the weight penalty. :thumb:
Btw - any local guys (Levi, Josh, SET Man, etc) interested in a road bike ride tomorrow AM?
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Just swapped out my pedals today...took out my Time RXS Carbons and replaced them with Look Keo 2 Max Carbons, and I have to say that I am impressed with the Looks. Entry is *much* easier than the Times, and the platform/contact surface feels really solid. I liked the Times, and they might be a hair lighter, but I think that ease-of-entry (no more playing catch-up with my group after stopping at intersections while trying to get into my pedals) and the contact platform definitely are worth the weight penalty. :thumb:
Btw - any local guys (Levi, Josh, SET Man, etc) interested in a road bike ride tomorrow AM?
Very cool! When my pedals go, these are high on my list. I am having very bad knee pain and think I may need to go in for a scope. Did a quick 40 mile ride with the group and spent the last 20 miles in severe pain.
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Hey Phil,
I am planning to go on a beginner's ride at Jungle Habitat tomorrow with MTBNJ. Want to come? Do you have my number still?
Josh
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Hey Phil, what time in the morning? If I don't go to Blue Mountain tomorrow, I will ride road instead.
Just to let you know, I am currently using CrankBros Egg Beater pedals. It is perfect for stop-n-go street cruising. I am looking at speedplay but I don't know much about them. Well actually new to road riding.
Please let me know your plans.
--Levi
Just swapped out my pedals today...took out my Time RXS Carbons and replaced them with Look Keo 2 Max Carbons, and I have to say that I am impressed with the Looks. Entry is *much* easier than the Times, and the platform/contact surface feels really solid. I liked the Times, and they might be a hair lighter, but I think that ease-of-entry (no more playing catch-up with my group after stopping at intersections while trying to get into my pedals) and the contact platform definitely are worth the weight penalty. :thumb:
Btw - any local guys (Levi, Josh, SET Man, etc) interested in a road bike ride tomorrow AM?
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Very cool! When my pedals go, these are high on my list. I am having very bad knee pain and think I may need to go in for a scope. Did a quick 40 mile ride with the group and spent the last 20 miles in severe pain.
Maybe you just need to adjust the cleat position on your shoe? I spent some time on my ride this morning stopping and making adjustments until it felt right...
I am planning to go on a beginner's ride at Jungle Habitat tomorrow with MTBNJ. Want to come? Do you have my number still?
That's an off-road ride, right? I'm still building up my new mtb frame (probably won't be done til September), so I'm not able to do trail-riding right now.
Hey Phil, what time in the morning? If I don't go to Blue Mountain tomorrow, I will ride road instead.
Just to let you know, I am currently using CrankBros Egg Beater pedals. It is perfect for stop-n-go street cruising. I am looking at speedplay but I don't know much about them. Well actually new to road riding.
Please let me know your plans.
Am looking to hit the road around 8:30am. If you want, we can even hang onto the Rocket Ride for a little bit, although today was my first day on a bike in about 3 weeks, so I don't know if I'm up for the whole 50 miles. All this assuming it doesn't rain...
Are those EggBeaters road pedals? I've tried the Speedplays and didn't like them all that much...not much contact surface area, and generally felt like being on ice-skates (probably good for people with really bad knees, tho)...
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Jack,
As Phil mentions, your knee issues may be as simple as a cleat adjustment. But go very minor if you you start to play with it. Even better, speak with a fitter. A while back I had some minor knee issues, and they were solved by a few spacers between my cleat and shoe.
Phil,
Glad you are enjoying the Looks. They are pretty much all I use anymore. But as with much in life, personal preference generally has a say.
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Btw - any local guys (Levi, Josh, SET Man, etc) interested in a road bike ride tomorrow AM?
Hey!
Wish I could do that but I'm working weekend now :cry:
Take care,
Buddy :thumb:
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That's an off-road ride, right? I'm still building up my new mtb frame (probably won't be done til September), so I'm not able to do trail-riding right now.
Yeah, it was off-road and super freaking slippery having just poured. In fact it only stopped raining about 10 mins before pedaling and started pouring on us about 10 mins before we finished. Got a good 1.5 hour window in between.
I look like I went tumbling down the mountain. I ate it a few times, no big falls, just a few minor ones but I go rash and bruises all over my forearms and shins. It was a blast though. That place is pretty damn technical and some places we had to walk it.
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I thought it was generally frowned-upon to ride on wet/muddy trails...?
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That is true when conditions get muddy, but this place has good drainage and other than a coupel of puddles there wasn't much mud.
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Cool...you will definitely have to take me there when my bike is ready! :thumb:
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No rides for me because of rain forecast. :)
Riding on rain is fun. Just don't get sick afterwards. :lol:
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If you guys are free to ride in the afternoons, I am free to ride on Monday/Tuesday/Friday this week after 3pm...am happy to have you guys come over and hit the roads...
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Hey Phil, anyway we can meet halfway? I am thinking about riding from Queens to GWB.
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Hey Phil, anyway we can meet halfway? I am thinking about riding from Queens to GWB.
You mean meet near the GWB? Definitely! Strictly Bicycles in Fort Lee is a great place to meet up....
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I am new here, but here are my rides....I started on the road in 1979 when I was 9. I was the geeky kid on the 10-spd when everyone in school was on a BMX bike :D
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd37/nguisto22/NPG_1545.jpg)
A bad shot of the Colnago...It is my main road bike.
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd37/nguisto22/phps8XnqLPM.jpg)
I have sold all of my track bikes...De Rosa, San Rensho, Carrera, and Colnago, but I kept my favorite one of all:
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd37/nguisto22/IMG_3004.jpg)
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Nice bikes. It looks like you love Italian bikes. :thumb:
@Phil, I will ping you tomorrow. Weather wise, it looks like same as Sunday. :(
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Nice bikes. It looks like you love Italian bikes. :thumb:
@Phil, I will ping you tomorrow. Weather wise, it looks like same as Sunday. :(
Thanks Levi...yeah, could you tell? :green: Both of my parents are Italian, and when they took me to see Breaking Away at the theater (seems like forever), I was hooked. I have always had a love for Italian bikes.
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That Colnago C-50 has been high on my list for carbon frames that I would be interested in if I ever made the jump into carbon... :thumb:
@Levi...yeah, it's pretty wet out. Maybe later in the week...
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Thanks Phil and Jeff,
I'm going to a fitter later tonight. My knee really hurts after about 40 or 50 miles. My shop fitter moved the cleat position on the right shoe (and I'm using 9% float) but it still hurts. I've had 3 knee surgeries on this knee but it was fine up until mile 80 of my last century. I have another century this weekend (Bike Psycho in IL) and I'm hoping the next fitting will be the charm. My friend has special insoles that correct for some of his issues and I'm going to ask the fitter if something similar would work for me. What kind of shims (Jeff) do you have and what do they do?
Lastly, the SRAM Red drivetrain is awesome. I love the way it shifts and the way the handles feel. Also, the hoods are very comfortable for my hands. Aside from the knee issue, my bike is comfortable for century riding and for fast weekend rides. Will take pictures and post them later.
That Colnago C-50 is amazing! One of my favorite looking bikes.
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Congrats on the SRAM RED. Where did you purchased it?
I am thinking about upgrading my Fulcrum Racing 7 wheels to a pair of Zipp 101. Lots if choices out there.
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Levi, if you're going to upgrade your wheels, I highly recommend looking at the Easton EA90 SLX wheelset. They are almost 200g lighter than the Zipp 101 and more than $200 cheaper. The Easton R4 hub uses ceramic bearings, too.
A friend of mine got these this summer and loves them...
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Thanks Phil. I will consider that in my short list of wheelset. My bike weighs 17lbs 1oz stock configuration. It is going to be a great hill climber when I am done with it. :)
Atleast when Set Man drops me climbing the 59th street bridge, I can't blame the bike. :lol:
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The Easton wheels are great for sprinting and climbing. My friend who has them is about your size/weight, so I think they would be plenty stiff for you...
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Levi,
You can get the Easton wheels for sub $500 at Performance.
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Levi,
You can get the Easton wheels for sub $500 at Performance.
Performance offers a "special edition" of the wheelset. Not sure what that means, but rumors say that it is based on prior model year parts. From the looks of it, it does have the R4 hub, which was updated in 2009 to the current design...
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You might also consider going with a custom wheelset. I happen to really like Chris King hubs, and there are some good quality rims out there for good prices...you can get a really great set of custom wheels for something under $1000. The Chris King-Velocity Fusion wheels I have on my Spectrum are fantastic...
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Phil,
While I've not seen the wheels in person, in their add they reference the hub as being the R4 edition. Not that the R3's were bad either.
Easton EA90 SLX Special Edition Wheelset - Performance Exclusive
The R4 Series hub with precision-sealed cartridge bearings and asymmetrical, low-drag seals provide lightweight strength, easy maintenance and smooth speed
A lot of great wheels out there now. You can pick up used Bonty X-Lite's for $300 just to name one.
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Congrats on the SRAM RED. Where did you purchased it?
I am thinking about upgrading my Fulcrum Racing 7 wheels to a pair of Zipp 101. Lots if choices out there.
Hi Levi,
I got the SRAM gear from my friend who crashed his Felt racing bike. The left brake lever has a scuff but it's functionally perfect and works great. It's very lightweight and the doubletap shifters work great. I have seen Red for a great price at Jensenusa.com and probikekit.com when it's on sale. I have also seen it at Performance recently for a very good price (and you get a 10% rebate if you are a member). Plus, Performance will install anything you buy from them for free.
Those Fulcrum wheels are heavy but decent training wheels. I'd make a suggestion, but there are lots of more experienced riders who can make much better recommendations in this area.
Good luck!
Jack
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Lots of wheels out there. Since it was raining and roads and trails are wet today, I went out and checked many bike shops and saw many wheelsets. It looks like www.RACycles.com has it all! This is like BHPhoto of high-end road cycling. I am sold on the Zipp 101 because I love it's 188 rear hubs and bearings (It reminds me of my I9 with 3 less praws). Having better aero qualities is a plus. :) I am sure everyone have their favorite wheels.
Decisions, decision...I have more time than money. :scratch:
Thanks guys for the suggestions. :thumb:
p.s. I didn't know SRAM bought Zipp.
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So did you buy them??
One quick note about Zipps...prior to my current wheels, I had wheels built with Zipp 530 rims. Compared to my current wheels, getting a tire on and off the Zipp rims was really tough. I thought this was normal until I went riding with a friend and he flatted...I was helping him take the tire off the rim (he had Bontrager Race X Lite wheels) and couldn't believe how easy it was. After getting my new wheels (with Velocity Fusion rims) and seeing that they too were much easier to get tires on/off, I did some Googling and found that people do have a harder time getting tires on/off Zipp rims.
Anyways, something to think about....
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I won't keep you in suspense.
:lol: I was able to sneak in a pair of Zipp 101! This setup made my bike lose exactly 1.0 lb! 8)
These wheels met my expectations...sustained speed of 20mph on the flats @90RPM and 1/3 the cost compared to my frame! They are perfect wheel for training when I am not on my MTB.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Wheelset/IMG_9883.jpg)
Zipp 101, front: 1.10lbs, Rear: 1.14lbs as delivered
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Sweet 188 rear hubs.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Wheelset/IMG_9888.jpg)
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Congrats on the new wheels! Did you ride them in this rain??
Still haven't seen a pic of your new bike....! :duh:
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I should have a picture here and there. Stay tuned!
I do night rides. Last night, no rain but only drizzle. I just have to try the new wheels. Tonight, I am doing night ride again. :)
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I found some pictures I took when I was in Atlanta, Georgia. Picture was taken at Silver Comet Trail (http://www.silvercometga.com/). The Wilier (pronounced "Vilier") was my brother-in-law's bike. :thumb:
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/IMG_9743.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/IMG_9740.jpg)
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Nice looking bike! I'm not a fan of the look of the Cervelo "aero" frames (S-series), but your R3 looks really great...
Regarding the Wilier...someone told me that you're not actually supposed to pronounce it? :scratch: Apparently, there is no letter "W" in Italian...and that the W is an abbreviation of the word "Viva". The whole name comes from the phrase "Viva Italia Libera E Redenta", which means Long Live Italy, Liberated and Redeemed"....
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A few pics from my ride this afternoon up on the BRP. It was a beautiful, cool 60s low traffic day up there.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_3355.jpg)
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_3358.jpg)
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_3357.jpg)
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Nice view! Did you climb 5,000+ feet?!? Wow!
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Nice view! Did you climb 5,000+ feet?!? Wow!
Not today. I started at 4600' and had a 1650' climb to the top. If I ride from town it is about 4500' of total climbing to the summit.
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Do you use compact or triple cranksets? The view and quality of air looks fantastic. Thanks for sharing.
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Do you use compact or triple cranksets? The view and quality of air looks fantastic. Thanks for sharing.
I have three road bikes all with compact cranks (50/34). Two of those have 11/28 cassettes. The other bike is setup for long steep rides and has a mtb rear der. with a 11/32 cassette. That extra gear can make all the difference on the last steep pitch of a century ride.
I built my wife's bike with SRAM Red and a XX mtb rear der. with the XX 11/32 cassette. It shifts so much better than a triple and the 34/32 gear is actually a bit lower than the 30/27 she had on her old bike.
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Did a nice ride with Levi this morning! Ended up with about 45 miles averaging 17.4mph...Levi did more since he rode from Queens to meet me at the GWB and also had to go home to Queens. He's a strong rider from his mtb experience! Just needs to get more comfortable drafting...nice job overall!
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Thanks Phil for the tour of the 9W. Phil is a great lead rider. :thumb: I always wanted to ride 9W! That 9W ride was not for beginner. I had lots of fun. Boy I have lots to learn about riding on-road. Also nice to meet Harold. That was not his real name but for some reason, It was imprinted in my memory. Nice guy. :thumb:
I did 70 miles today. :) Until next time.
--Levi
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I would probably have died on that ride! I did only 14.7 miles off road today at 6 Mile Run. I had a friend with me for which it was his first ride in years so I had to wait up a lot.
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Josh...road miles <> off-road miles. And as long as you are comfortable drafting, you'd have been fine for the most part. The climbs would have been the only difficulty for you...
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Hey guys, did 40 miles today with my group as a prelude to tomorrow's century ride. I have been having some really bad knee pain since my last century and today's ride was the first time I have been pain-free in a long time. My IT band has been getting inflamed and making riding difficult. The changes made to my fit seemed to have alieviated the issue. I'll bring my camera and take some pictures tomorrow for everyone.
Cheers,
J
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Never drafted before in my life, but I often tend to ride the ass of the rider in front of me off-road.
The reason I was not sure had more to do with the speed which you maintained for the distance you did. I haven't gotten a bike computer yet so I don't know what my average mph is on road.
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Hey jackman...glad the fit adjustments seem to have solved your knee pain issues! :thumb:
Josh...on the road, if you can stay within 1-2 wheel-lengths' distance behind the rider in front of you, you save about 30% of your energy. On part of our ride today, we hooked onto a group of guys pace-lining at about 26-28mph for a stretch and were fine for the most part...it almost feels like waterskiing! The issue Levi had was that he wasn't comfortable riding right on my wheel and eventually fell off 10-15ft off the back...and at that point, it became hard for him to sustain the speed. But he and I were later able to find a good comfort-level with it and finished that section of the ride with good speed (~24mph)...
Drafting only really works if you're going over 14mph, tho...
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I think I could do that. Depends on whether I could keep my cadence steady I guess. Sucks for the front guy though I'd imagine. Or do you take turns?
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Josh,
Check out this video for a good example of drafting in a pace line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhI8gWurWNQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhI8gWurWNQ)
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Garmin just announced a new computer:
http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/garmin-edge-800-first-ride-review-27494
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@BrysTony, nice video. :thumb:
I was looking at the Garmin Edge 800. No one is selling them yet. :)
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Yeah, the release date for the Garmin 800 is in early October. I think I am going to get one to replace my cheapo Cateye... 8)
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You need it if you want to track your progress. I am predicting several Garmin Edge 705 in Amazon when the Edge 800 comes out. :thumb:
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I love my Garmin 500 and have been following the news on the 800. The Edge 500 is compact and has lots of useful data but lacks the ability to give directions. This is not a big deal to me because I usually ride on roads I am familiar with or at least ride with groups who are familiar with the route. Anyone looking for a relatively inexpensive little computer should check out the Edge 500. You can track all of your rides on the Garmin site and it automatically posts a map of everywhere you rode (along with your max speed, avg speed, feet of climbing, heart rate, max hr, cadence, etc.).
While we are on the topic, I had some excellent rides this weekend. Rode a 20 miles on a borrowed 29" MTB bike in central Florida on Thursday evening (okay, not a weekend ride technically but it was fun), rode 40 mile training ride with my group on Saturday and rode a completely brutal 103 mile century ride (Bike Psycho Century) on Sunday.
Sunday's century ride was the most difficult of my life. Temperatures exceeded 100F on freshly blacktopped roads and we battled a fierce headwind for the last 15-20 miles. There was no shade and several riders had to be escorted back due to severe dehydration (including a very strong rider from my group. I also crashed early in the ride and had some nice road rash on my right leg. Other than some tingly hands, I feel surprisingly good today. Wil post pictures andlinks to the Garmin data later.
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Congrats Jackman on the Century. Sorry to hear about the crash. How did you manage to do that?
Simply the Edge 500 is not a navigation tool. Period.
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Congrats Jackman on the Century. Sorry to hear about the crash. How did you manage to do that?
Simply the Edge 500 is not a navigation tool. Period.
You are correct regarding the Edge 500, it has no navigation. Nav is not important to me because I usually ride with a group and I carry an iPhone with navigation if I get lost. I like the size of the 500 and the low cost and weight.
I crashed on some gravel as we approached the first rest area. It was a freak crash and my leg looks worse than it feels. A couple scratches on my Red brake handle and saddle. Aside from that, it was a great ride. I'll download the Garmin data and provide a link later. The time is all screwed up because I started the timer prior to the ride and did not pause it later in the ride when I stopped to help out a friend who was dehydrated and suffering from heat exhaustion.
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Here is the Garmin Connect data from the century. It was extremely hot and difficult to breathe and I am happy to have finished in one piece. Also, the time is kind've screwy because I did not stop the timer while helping other riders at the end of the ride.
I don't think I will ever sign up for a ride on such a hot day.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/46864356
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Congrats Jackman.
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I attempted to do my first century this past weekend at the Hotter N Hell 100 in Wichita Falls, TX but had to quit at the 100K mark due to leg cramps. Otherwise I felt fine. I think I stayed hydrated with Gatoraid and water but maybe I needed more. Any advice from those who have dealt with leg cramps?
By the way the Hotter N Hell 100 was an awesome event and ride. Somewhere around 15,000 riders.
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I attempted to do my first century this past weekend at the Hotter N Hell 100 in Wichita Falls, TX but had to quit at the 100K mark due to leg cramps. Otherwise I felt fine. I think I stayed hydrated with Gatoraid and water but maybe I needed more. Any advice from those who have dealt with leg cramps?
By the way the Hotter N Hell 100 was an awesome event and ride. Somewhere around 15,000 riders.
Congrats on the 100K ride in such a hot climate. 15000 riders!???? That sounds like a blast. I've done two century rides so far this month (and signed up for one in September) and learned the following (I'm far from an expert so I hope more experienced cyclists chime in!):
1. Stay hydrated - you should stop at every rest area and drink isotonic beverages. Also keep both bottles on your bike full and bring an extra bottle or two to put in your jersey pockets. I bought a dry mix isotonic and used about 1.5x the suggested dosage. It didn't taste good but it seemed to keep me well hydrated. If you dehydrated you will cramp up.
2. Pace yourself - I was riding with a fast group of riders during my first century. They were in much better shape and kept a pace I could not sustain after the 50 mile mark. I paid the price on the back fifty because I was out of gas around the 75 miles in. The last 25 miles were brutal, but thankfully it was not 100F like yesterday's ride.
3. Ride in a paceline - my group of friends (from my regular cycling group) helped maintain a paceline throughout the ride. Riding in a paceline is much more efficient and more fun (IMO) because you can maintain a higher speed for longer stretches.
4. Make sure your bike is tuned up properly. I threw a chain on the last century (going up a hill) and had problems with my brakes. It sucks losing a chain while climbing a hill on rubbery legs.
5. Get fitted properly. I experienced really bad pain (IT Band) on my first century and almost could not continue. After 80 miles, my right knee was on fire and started to swell. My local shop made some adjustments to my cleats and (thankfully) the pain went away. It's funny because I never experienced any pain until mile 80 of the century. Before that, I had literally logged thousands of miles on the bike (with the bad fit) without any issues.
Best of luck to you on your next century. To be honest, sometimes there is nothing you can do. One of my closest friends is a very strong rider, much stronger than I am, and probably stronger than I will ever be. He experienced cramps and heat exhaustion around mile 97 yesterday and was unable to continue. Thankfully the organizers had cars picking people up who were injured or unable to finish.
Cheers,
Jack
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100 miles is quite an accomplishment. As is 62 miles. The vast majority of people cannot do it. Let alone those that consider themselves cyclist.
Not that everyone is not already careful, out there, but be careful!
A "trusted" rider and someone I know from another forum. And for those who are not members, the Serotta is a great place.
http://forums.serotta.com/showthread.php?t=77938
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Congrats on the 100K ride in such a hot climate. 15000 riders!???? That sounds like a blast. I've done two century rides so far this month (and signed up for one in September) and learned the following (I'm far from an expert so I hope more experienced cyclists chime in!):
1. Stay hydrated - you should stop at every rest area and drink isotonic beverages. Also keep both bottles on your bike full and bring an extra bottle or two to put in your jersey pockets. I bought a dry mix isotonic and used about 1.5x the suggested dosage. It didn't taste good but it seemed to keep me well hydrated. If you dehydrated you will cramp up.
2. Pace yourself - I was riding with a fast group of riders during my first century. They were in much better shape and kept a pace I could not sustain after the 50 mile mark. I paid the price on the back fifty because I was out of gas around the 75 miles in. The last 25 miles were brutal, but thankfully it was not 100F like yesterday's ride.
3. Ride in a paceline - my group of friends (from my regular cycling group) helped maintain a paceline throughout the ride. Riding in a paceline is much more efficient and more fun (IMO) because you can maintain a higher speed for longer stretches.
4. Make sure your bike is tuned up properly. I threw a chain on the last century (going up a hill) and had problems with my brakes. It sucks losing a chain while climbing a hill on rubbery legs.
5. Get fitted properly. I experienced really bad pain (IT Band) on my first century and almost could not continue. After 80 miles, my right knee was on fire and started to swell. My local shop made some adjustments to my cleats and (thankfully) the pain went away. It's funny because I never experienced any pain until mile 80 of the century. Before that, I had literally logged thousands of miles on the bike (with the bad fit) without any issues.
Best of luck to you on your next century. To be honest, sometimes there is nothing you can do. One of my closest friends is a very strong rider, much stronger than I am, and probably stronger than I will ever be. He experienced cramps and heat exhaustion around mile 97 yesterday and was unable to continue. Thankfully the organizers had cars picking people up who were injured or unable to finish.
Cheers,
Jack
Jack,
Thanks much for the response. I am now thinking that one of the main factors may be undertraining for the ride. I found a good article on cramping here http://www.roadbikerider.com/cramps.htm (http://www.roadbikerider.com/cramps.htm)
Thanks again,
Tony
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Jack,
Thanks much for the response. I am now thinking that one of the main factors may be undertraining for the ride. I found a good article on cramping here http://www.roadbikerider.com/cramps.htm (http://www.roadbikerider.com/cramps.htm)
Thanks again,
Tony
Yeah, sometimes cramps are just the result of pushing your muscles beyond their conditioning....
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I agree with you regarding cramping. You just need to train sufficiently for a long ride and hope for the best. Hydration is key but, if you are not in shape for the ride, all the water in the world is not going to get you through it.
Aside from some numb pinkies on both hands and nerve pain in my palms, I feel great. Need to adjust my fit to deal with this hand numbness. I changed bar tape, from padded cork tape to unpadded Fizik tape (the stuff that looks like tennis racket grip) and my hands are still hurting. My golves are padded but not enough, apparently. Anyone else have a similar issue? I've read about it on various forums and have tried different things. This is not an issue with my usual distances (40-70 miles) but I may have to see a doctor if things don't improve over the next couple days.
Thanks,
J
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Only my shoulders gets a little sore on long rides.
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A few of my thoughts on making the Century club:
* Eat before your hungry. You might not be hungry, but don't use that as an excuse not to eat. Hard to say what will work for you, some eat every hour, some only every 30 miles or so.
* Drink before your thirsty. Lots!
* Don't start out too fast. Maybe 40-50% of what you are accustomed to. Your sense of speed will be skewed based on what you normally ride, so everything will feel slow, but you'll be thankful when you don't bonk at mile 70.
* Move around on the bike (change hand positions, relax your shoulders, move your arms, keep from getting in one position for too long or stiffness will set it).
I generally have a can of coke right around the 70 mile mark to give me a good boost to the finish.
I also bring tums incase of an upset stomach from the ride, heat, food/gels, ect.
Also take advantage of any rest stops if the ride has them or calls for it. Getting off the bike for a bit can do wonders for your mental and physical state.
Oh and lastly, don't forget the chamois butter! Sunscreen too if the day calls for it.
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A few of my thoughts on making the Century club:
* Eat before your hungry. You might not be hungry, but don't use that as an excuse not to eat. Hard to say what will work for you, some eat every hour, some only every 30 miles or so.
* Drink before your thirsty. Lots!
* Don't start out too fast. Maybe 40-50% of what you are accustomed to. Your sense of speed will be skewed based on what you normally ride, so everything will feel slow, but you'll be thankful when you don't bonk at mile 70.
* Move around on the bike (change hand positions, relax your shoulders, move your arms, keep from getting in one position for too long or stiffness will set it).
I generally have a can of coke right around the 70 mile mark to give me a good boost to the finish.
I also bring tums incase of an upset stomach from the ride, heat, food/gels, ect.
Also take advantage of any rest stops if the ride has them or calls for it. Getting off the bike for a bit can do wonders for your mental and physical state.
Oh and lastly, don't forget the chamois butter! Sunscreen too if the day calls for it.
+1
Sums it up pretty well IMO. Most riders start too fast on long rides. It's hard not to get caught up in the moment but just relax and let your body warm up for the first 20-30 minutes of the ride.
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Great weekend of riding in Chicago area (western burbs) this weekend. Finally some cooler weather but the fierce wind is back. I made a deal (with myself) when I first started riding to never complain about the wind during the ride. When we are riding into a heavy headwind, I usually say "that's some nice wind" or talk about the tailwind on the way back. Today's ride featured the worst headwind I can remember. The ride home was a breeze, literally!
I rode with a group on the way out and we rode in a double paceline. Three of us were separated dropped :oon the way home because we could not keep pace with the group. They were really flying and I was not up to the task!
Either way, I did about 140 miles this weekend and had a blast.
Data:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/47920244
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I did the NYC Century this past Sunday and it was a blast! My garmin goofed on me and decided to add @983 miles. :roll: :roll: :roll: Needless to say, I had a great time finishing the NYC Century feeling fresh. Transportation Alternative did a great job with the route selection for this year's event.
It rained late in the afternoon and saw some crashes. The streets suddenly became slippery specially those manhole covers which I was quickly reminded. Almost wiped out on a turn but managed to recover. What a great feeling. :thumb:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/48763284
After my friends decided to leave the tour @50 mile mark because of the wind and rain, I decided to start hammering all the way back to Central Park. I was doing 21-22mph average alone passing people who where already tired. The faster road guys where already way ahead at this point half way into the tour. I think. It was a great tour. I will do this again next year.
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I did the NYC Century this past Sunday and it was a blast! My garmin goofed on me and decided to add @983 miles. :roll: :roll: :roll: Needless to say, I had a great time finishing the NYC Century feeling fresh. Transportation Alternative did a great job with the route selection for this year's event.
It rained late in the afternoon and saw some crashes. The streets suddenly became slippery specially those manhole covers which I was quickly reminded. Almost wiped out on a turn but managed to recover. What a great feeling. :thumb:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/48763284
Any day you can average 143 mph on a bike is a good day! Congrats on the century ride. I'm nursing a sore knee but hope to get out later today. If you have any pictures, please post them! NYC Century sounds like a blast.
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Thanks Jack. I do have some pictures that I took.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/NYCentury%202010/IMG_0120.jpg)
NYC at dusk
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/NYCentury%202010/IMG_0119.jpg)
Jerry and his wife (Owner of http://www.peakmtnbike.com/). One of my sponsors. LOL!
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/NYCentury%202010/IMG_0136.jpg)
The Original Nathan's at Coney Island...
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/NYCentury%202010/IMG_0127.jpg)
Climbing the Brooklyn Bridge
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/NYCentury%202010/IMG_0133.jpg)
Nice view
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/NYCentury%202010/IMG_0138.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/NYCentury%202010/IMG_0144.jpg)
NYC Green Bike path
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/IMG_0536.jpg)
My road bike
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Thanks! Great pictures, cool ride and shiny new bike! It also looked like a beautiful day. This is the best time of year to ride. Congrats on the beautiful Cervelo also! It's a very cool looking ride.
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Thanks Jack for the complements. Not bad for a roadie newb I guess. LOL!
It is the best weather to ride. However, choosing the right clothes can be daunting. In this ride I have chosen a Gore Phantom jacket by itself. The weather was windy and drizzly with temp below 70deg. My plan worked! I only removed the arms and was extremely comfortable throughout the ride.
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I know what you mean. This is the toughest time of year to dress for a long ride. It usually starts off really cold and finished very hot with +30F temp swings. I have arm and leg warmers and a Gore windbreaker (waterproof). You have one with removeable arms? I wish mine had that feature. It's got zippers on the sides that let in lots of air but the arms are not removeable.
One thing you may want to try, wool socks. I was in Performance recently and they were closing out Smartwool (wool) socks. All I can say is WOW! After years of using dryfit or various versions of "hi-tech" socks, I am sold on wool. These socks wick moisture better than any other socks I have tried, breathe well and keep your feet warm and cool. They are usually very expensive (around $18-20) per pair but they are closing them out at half price and are worth every penny. My feet have never felt better and my only regret is that I should have bought more than two pairs. I always thought wool was scratchy and hot but these are silky and my feet always feel comfortable. Who knew?
Cheers,
J
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Thanks. I wear wool socks only in winter.
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http://connect.garmin.com/activity/48763284
Levi....
You rode right past the area I work in, Howard Beach, Ozone Park, and Richmond Hill.... :lol:
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That's correct. It is more like the tour of Tri-borough. LOL!
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Someone stole my bike.
I think it's one of you guys. It looks like one in the pictures.
Give it back.
Bullies.
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I found your bike. It will be returned to you shortly. :P :P :P
(http://thecontaminated.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/making-of-wooden-bike/wooden-bike.jpg)
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The new Garmin is coming soon. I love my Edge500 but the new 800 looks cooler. I might have to get one...anyone looking for a good deal on a 500?
http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=X0139
Also, I went for a pro fitting last weekend. Since the fitting, I've only gone on a couple short rides but feel strong and, more importantly, have no knee pain. The guy who did the fitting, Demian March, was a true professional and took his time to make sure everything was perfect. The price was very inexpensive and I highly recommend these guys if you are in the Chicago are looking for a fitting or a deal on a bike. The website only shows low end models but he's a Ridley dealer and a Specialized dealer. Here is the website:
http://lakeshorebike.com/
Cheers,
Jack
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Hi Jack, I maybe interested on your old 500. It all depends. ;)
Btw, I am doing another century event this Sunday!
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Hi Jack, I maybe interested on your old 500. It all depends. ;)
Btw, I am doing another century event this Sunday!
Congrats, my man. I did two centuries in August but September has been difficult because of injuries. I think the new fit corrected the major problem but will not know for sure until I get on the road for some long rides this weekend. Keep us posted on the results of your ride!
Also, I'll let you know about the 500. Several gear-hounds in my group have 500's and I suspect they will be moving up to the blingier 800 and sellinng their 500's for low prices. I love the 500 but there have been times I would have liked GPS navigation functionality. My model is the rare graphite and black model from England, not the team blue colored one. So far, it's the only one of its kind I have seen. Cool :thumb:
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The Tour of the Hamptons was a great ride. Likewise riding with Mike, his friend Don and Brands Cycle guys. I took an extra scenic ride around sag harbor (by accident) and ended up with 116 miles. LOL!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/50690216
Limited pictures that I took of the Tour.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Tour%20of%20the%20Hamptons%202010/IMG_0269.jpg)
Brands train...
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Tour%20of%20the%20Hamptons%202010/IMG_0276.jpg)
Your one and only. :D
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Tour%20of%20the%20Hamptons%202010/IMG_0277.jpg)
Lighthouse
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Levi, you are turning into a road monster!
I did the Rocket Ride today...got dropped on a late hill, but ended up with 59.44miles and an average speed of 18.9mph...
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Great pictures! Also, beautiful Cervelo.
Phil, nearly 19mph on a 60 mile ride. Wow! You are a fast rider. Congrats.
I'm nursing a knee but hope to get back on the bike next week.
Cheers
J
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Thanks guys.
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Jack,
Thought the knee was getting better?
Levi,
Great pics.
Phil,
Nice pace!
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Phil, nearly 19mph on a 60 mile ride. Wow! You are a fast rider. Congrats.
Remember that the Rocket Ride has a really huge peloton (today there were at least 50 riders)...of that 60 miles, about 35 of it was in a major draft pull...!
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I think I need to start paying attention to this thread. :) Just got back from Little Rock, AR where I rode in the Big Dam Bridge 100, a very well run ride with around 2300+ participants. This was my first organized ride in 15 years, and I brought out of storage my old 1986 Trek 1200 road bike for the event. I rode with two friends who are new to biking and they both really enjoyed the experience and are ready to try more rides like this. Ride info at: http://thebigdambridge100.com/. Here's a picture from near the back of the line at the start.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=36263)
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Hi Jeff,
I thought the knee was getting better after the fitting. It felt great on the 20 mile "test" ride, but I went for a 40+ ride with the fast group yesterday and bad things happened after 30 miles. Unfortunately, it was as much pain as I have ever felt in my knee and I seriously thought about calling home and asking my wife to pick me up. Maybe it was pride that stopped me but it was probably the fact that I didn't bring a phone and my wife was not home anyway...either way, I limped home and iced the knee.
I'm going to rest it for the week and hope things improve in time for next weekend's rides. The weather is perfect for long-distance cycling. Have you been out riding?
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SOLD. :thumb:
I am not sure if this is the best place for this, Mod (pjchappy) please move it if there is a better place for it. ;)
I am selling my complete Shimano Ultegra 6700 Group set. It is fairly new with less than 100 miles. I have been using my Dura Ace 7900 with all my Century rides. :thumb: This is the latest Ultegra Complete Groupset second best to Dura Ace 7900 with hidden cables running from the back of the shifters. It has similar shifting performance like the Dura Ace 7900 for a fraction of the cost.
Shimano Ultegra 6700 STI Shift Levers SH-ST6700
Shimano Ultegra 6700 Cassette 12-25T
Shimano Ultegra 6700 Road Bike Brakeset
Shimano Ultegra 6700 Road Bike Crankset (53x39, 170mm w/ Bottom Bracket)
Shimano Ultegra 6700 Rear Derailleur (SS)
Shimano Ultegra 6700 Braze On Front
Shimano Ultegra 10-speed chain and cables etc included but maybe too short for your frame.
Picture is similar to one below.
(http://www.bike24.com/images/products/p0411699.jpg)
This is a complete 10 Speed setup for road rage valued over $1000! Go figure, Shifters alone costs $350!
Price is $450 AS IS, cash + shipping.
Thanks for looking.
--Levi
p.s. low ballers will be cordially ignored ;D ;D ;D
SOLD. :thumb:
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Levi, you are turning into a road monster!
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Hey!
No kidding!!!! :lol:
BTW... pretty good deal on the Ultegra set there. :D
Take care,
Buddy :thumb:
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Since Levi started it :green:, I have a top tier carbon frame that I am looking to part with that would go great with his gruppo. Though I feel my frame only deserves the best from Campy. :lol:
While I am serious about selling my frame. The 6700 stuff is 85-90% of The Ace, at 50% the cost. Very nice deal Levi.
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Sale is pending on the Ultegra 6700 groupo. ;)
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Lucky dog, now if someone would only by my frame.
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Thanks!
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Jeff has some awesome frames and He is a guy I trust.
That deal on the Ultegra was INSANELY GOOD. Someone got the deal of a lifetime. I don't even need any gear and I almost bought it!
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Thanks for the sentiments Jack. While I would love to sell my frame as I have something new coming in, I am in no need to "give" it away either. Would make a great back-up bike if you ever get my way for a ride. I'm also I firm believer that "fit" is king. So if it does not fit, I would sell it to you just to make some coin. Not sure that always happens in the audio world.
Btw, how is the knee. Hopefully you've contacted your fitter again. While I'm sure hard to do, it may make sense to limit your miles to +/- 30 a ride until your body adjust to all the changes. There were quite a few.
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Ladydog,
You did have a great deal on the Ultegra group, and I totally agree on fit. Since my vintage custom frames do fit me, I have had one stretched in the rear to accommodate the current wheel axles with 10 speed. I would have considered your Ultegra group, but I am putting DA on my custom Paisley.
Jackman, since I started riding again 5 weeks ago, I have dropped 18 pounds and I am starting to feel comfortable climbing the hills on my normal training rides. With a good winter training program, I will be back to riding centuries in 2011. I do miss the flatlands that you and Ladydog enjoy, but these Tennessee hills are getting me back in shape at a much faster rate.
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Hey Levi, I see that your winter fat has melted off...way to go man, you look like you could give Lance a run for his peddles. :lol:
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Ha!
Thanks for the complement Martin. :thumb:
Hey Levi, I see that your winter fat has melted off...way to go man, you look like you could give Lance a run for his peddles. :lol:
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After 100 miles or so perhaps I am still getting used to the Fizik Antares. ...Hmmm. The Antares 0 with Carbon Braided rails are stiff and have more padding compared to the Selle Italia SLR carbon rails and Ti rails that I have. The 0 has slightly wider on the rear too and weighs a few grams less. The Antares 0 has wingflex technology that regular antares lacks.
Durability? Only time will tell. I know for sure the Antares 0 is definitely much more comfortable than my Selle Italia SLR on longer rides.
Please note that saddles are personal thing...what works for me may or may not work for you.
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Antares 0 installed
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139 grams, not bad for the claimed weight of 135g
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After 100 miles or so perhaps I am still getting used to the Fizik Antares. ...Hmmm. The Antares 0 with Carbon Braided rails are stiff and have more padding compared to the Selle Italia SLR carbon rails and Ti rails that I have. The 0 has slightly wider on the rear too and weighs a few grams less. The Antares 0 has wingflex technology that regular antares lacks.
Durability? Only time will tell. I know for sure the Antares 0 is definitely much more comfortable than my Selle Italia SLR on longer rides.
Please note that saddles are personal thing...what works for me may or may not work for you.
I just bought the Selle Italia SLR... :oops:
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Levi,
Have you tried any of the other Fizik saddles? My LBS has an Arione that I can try out first, but I've been
on a waiting list for about a month now! I have a Gobi on my mtb bike that fits me great, but it's a hassle
switching it over every time I want to ride on the road!
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Hey Phil, I still use the Selle Italia SLR for my MTB.
My road bike came with the Fizik Pave and I think it is great but is too heavy. I also have the Gobi and hated it. I tried the Antares and so far over 200mi and loved it. The Antares allowed me to sit much lower (more aero) position.
They are personal thing.
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Hey Phil, I still use the Selle Italia SLR for my MTB.
My road bike came with the Fizik Pave and I think it is great but is too heavy. I also have the Gobi and hated it. I tried the Antares and so far over 200mi and loved it. The Antares allowed me to sit much lower (more aero) position.
They are personal thing.
I've been using a Selle Italia Flite saddle for as long as I can remember on both my road and mtn bike (I like to use the same saddle on both just for consistency). After my crash earlier this year, my road saddle is a bit torn up...just thought I'd use that plus the new mtb as an excuse to try something new. I figure that I'd stick with Selle Italia for the shape, so I picked up a pair of SLR's...will give them a go this weekend...
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Phil, cool saddle. I have an Arione with Kuim (sp?) rails. It's the previous generation with wingflex shell but it's made of leather versus microtex. Once I got my bike dialed in properly it was very comfortable (the saddle).
You are correct, saddle fit is very personal and, because we are all built differently, a saddle that is comfy for one person might be uncomfortable for another. Also, on poorly fit bike, a good saddle might feel uncomfortable! This was the case with my Arione for a while. My bars were too low, my seat was pointed up too far in the nose area and my saddle was too high. The combination caused discomfort which I attributed to the saddle. After correcting my fit, I'm very happy with the Arione's comfort. Although, when I'm ready for a new one, I'm going to look at the Antares.
I like the Arione because it's very long and gives you several riding positions. It's not as wide as the Antares but works well for me. Either way, I'm a fan of Fizik saddles and like the wing-flex technology. I hate to call it "technology" when it's just a series of "cracks" in the shell that are scored and loosen up as your legs brush up against them during the break-in period. Pretty simple but it works.
I'm going for a ride this evening. Haven't been on my bike since last Tuesday when I went out for a fast 37 mile ride with my group. I was gritting my teeth (unintentionally) and, because of a slight high spot on my new crown, cut off blood circulation to one of the nerves in a molar. Insanely painful things followed, including swelling of my face, etc. All better and ready to ride!
Cheers,
J
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I am all questions today. I have Vittoria Zaffiro Pro Slick tires (700x23) on my CAAD9. They came with the bike. Slick is the appropriate word when the road is a little wet. I was coming down a hill and went to stop before an intersection in sprinkling conditions and my back wheel came out about 25º. I managed to keep the rubber side down though.
Maybe this is to be expected but the tires felt like riding on ice the few times i rode on wet roads. Are there better tires?
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Better tires? Yes. However, it will not solve the problem of running slicks on glass surface. LOL! When it is slippery outside, you can run less pressure.
You can buy a nicer tire with more TPI which is above 120 and will give you a more supple, responsive and efficient ride quality. Again, it will be slippery because the contact patch is so thin. If at all possible, I won't ride when the roads are wet. If you do get caught in the rain, just relax and slow a little. Use your MTB instead. :thumb:
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The new Microtex leather Fizik uses doesn’t come from cows, but it’s softer than leather, won’t stretch like leather, hold odor like leather or hold water like leather. Using this material creates a stiff, comfortable, long lasting, breathable and very durable seats. It has a combination of durability, grippiness, slip-proofness, and good looks. Only time will tell. So far so good. :thumb:
Phil, cool saddle. I have an Arione with Kuim (sp?) rails. It's the previous generation with wingflex shell but it's made of leather versus microtex. Once I got my bike dialed in properly it was very comfortable (the saddle).
You are correct, saddle fit is very personal and, because we are all built differently, a saddle that is comfy for one person might be uncomfortable for another. Also, on poorly fit bike, a good saddle might feel uncomfortable! This was the case with my Arione for a while. My bars were too low, my seat was pointed up too far in the nose area and my saddle was too high. The combination caused discomfort which I attributed to the saddle. After correcting my fit, I'm very happy with the Arione's comfort. Although, when I'm ready for a new one, I'm going to look at the Antares.
I like the Arione because it's very long and gives you several riding positions. It's not as wide as the Antares but works well for me. Either way, I'm a fan of Fizik saddles and like the wing-flex technology. I hate to call it "technology" when it's just a series of "cracks" in the shell that are scored and loosen up as your legs brush up against them during the break-in period. Pretty simple but it works.
I'm going for a ride this evening. Haven't been on my bike since last Tuesday when I went out for a fast 37 mile ride with my group. I was gritting my teeth (unintentionally) and, because of a slight high spot on my new crown, cut off blood circulation to one of the nerves in a molar. Insanely painful things followed, including swelling of my face, etc. All better and ready to ride!
Cheers,
J
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I am all questions today. I have Vittoria Zaffiro Pro Slick tires (700x23) on my CAAD9. They came with the bike. Slick is the appropriate word when the road is a little wet. I was coming down a hill and went to stop before an intersection in sprinkling conditions and my back wheel came out about 25º. I managed to keep the rubber side down though.
Maybe this is to be expected but the tires felt like riding on ice the few times i rode on wet roads. Are there better tires?
Hi Josh,
I absolutely love Continental GP4000 tires. They are durable, have good traction, and a great ride. They are made in Germany and very high quality. Available at most bike shops along with 4 season version that I have not tried. I've converted 4 or 5 guys in my group to these after they tried mine. I've got a couple thousand miles with no flats. I use a 23 and they are much better riding than the Bontrager tires that came with the bike (25mm).
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The new Microtex leather Fizik uses doesn’t come from cows, but it’s softer than leather, won’t stretch like leather, hold odor like leather or hold water like leather. Using this material creates a stiff, comfortable, long lasting, breathable and very durable seats. It has a combination of durability, grippiness, slip-proofness, and good looks. Only time will tell. So far so good. :thumb:
When my saddle is ready for replacement, I'll find out! Fizik doesn't use leather on any saddles these days. I've seen and felt the microtex and it looks very nice. I've crashed a couple times and my leather held up pretty well (a couple scuffs). The saddle is so comfortable, I hope it holds up a couple more years. Unfortunately it doesn't have the cool clip system the new saddles have. You can just snap in a light or a bag on the new one. Mine is old school...
Cheers,
J
PS - good advice on the tires. I forgot, you can run lower pressure in bad conditions. Keep in mind, they are still skinny tires and you will never get the kind of traction in wet conditions you get on an MTB or Xcross bike. I love the GP4000's but on a recent ride across some new, wet, tar coated parking lot in a rainstorm, I was on ice-skates!
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Not a problem J.
I am currently running a Vittoria Pro Slick clincher tires and so far so good. My ultimate tire upgrade will be a Vittoria Open Corsa Evo CX II tires (320 tpi) which is very close to running tubular performance wise. I heard many happy riders using the Contis GP4000 tires. To each his own...again. :P
I am currently in the market for road pedals. After over 1,000+ miles, I decided to ditch my Ti Eggbeaters for a better platform. Still waiting delivery on my Sidi Ergo II carbon shoes. Very excited about this shoe having owned many Sidi shoes. then I am going to do some pedal test rides at my LBS. My choice would be Speedplay zero or Look Keo pedals. I am open to suggestions. The primary reason for switching is that during hard efforts, I feel numbness on my feet when doing over 55mi rides. Hopefully with a road specific pedals will eliminate my problem. :thumb:
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Cool shoes! I have Sidi Genius 5.5's and love them. Regarding pedals, the last time I checked, about half the people in my group use Speedplay and close to the other half use Look Keo's. I have Look pedals and like them quite a bit. Got mine for free from a friend who crashed a bike and didn't want a scraped up pedal. I use the cleats with maximum float and like the way they engage and disengage. I think Speedplay pedals have more float options (no big deal to me) and they can be engaged on both sides of the pedal. The Look pedals are one sided but they are weighted so the "toe" section is usually in the up position. Both Look and SP have a pretty wide pedal surface and I bet they are both more comfortable than your Eggbeaters on long rides.
Also, I had a great deal of foot pain and hot spots before my fitting. I changed pedals (to Look), bought new shoes (Sidi) and the problem still persisted. The fitter placed my cleats further back (towards the heel) and all foot pain and hot spots disappeared. I would have someone look at your fit if you haven't already. The hot spots might be fit related, not pedal related. Good luck!
J
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Thanks J. I am a true believer of a good bike fit. :thumb:
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I recently switched from Time RXS Carbons to Look Keo Max 2, and I'm really happy with the switch...
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Thanks J. I am a true believer of a good bike fit. :thumb:
Hi Levi,
You are more experienced than I am as a cyclist and I hope it didn't sound like I was telling you what to do! Over the past year, I've had more fit related injuries and pains. Unfortunately, my unintentional method has been to learn by making mistakes.
I finally thought I had everything dialed in perfectly and went for a 37 mile ride last Tuesday evening. I rode faster than ever with no knee pain. Unfortunately, I had a high spot on a new crown (the tooth type) and, in the process of sprinting, must have clenched my teeth too hard, cutting off blood supply to the nerve in my tooth. My cheek swelled up, and intense pain shot through my jaw and face for a couple days. Dentist xrayed and decided against a root canal. I'm going to test it out tonight and go for a fast 20 mile ride. It's always something!
Cheers,
J
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I recently switched from Time RXS Carbons to Look Keo Max 2, and I'm really happy with the switch...
I have Look Keo Sprints (no longer in production) and will get you pedals when these go!
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Btw, I just picked up a set of Eggbeater SL pedals for my mtn bike and like them a lot more than I thought I would. Hopefully they hold up to the rocky beatings I will put them thru....
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Thanks for the complement tvad4. I have to look at Shimano DA. I would assume it is the new 7900 pedals. I will take a look at those as well.
I am sure you have an idea which bike you are going to eventually get. R3 or RS, you can't go wrong. They are both going to be responsive and faster than the Tuscany. :D
As far as pedal goes, Speedplay zero, Look Keo and Shimano DA 7900 are the choices at the moment. Thanks!
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Hey Guys,
Just wanted to let you know that PBKUSA works on Probikekit.com for an additional 10% off. I support local bike shops as often as possible, and appreciate the value they add for about 80-90% of my purchases. The rest of the time, I shop at PBK. They have some great deals on tires and Garmin products.
I also bought my Sidi Genius 5.5's at PBK because no local shop had my size. PBK has lots of colors and styles of Sidi shoes. I picked up the 5.5's on sale for around $155 delivered, earlier this summer. They also carry Sidi Mega styles for people with wider feet.
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Nice! I will see what else I need. Hmmm....:thumb:
Thanks Jack.
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PBK is great. Typically very good prices.
The DA is a very nice pedal, though personally have leaned toward Look since most the time you can get a similar quality pedal for about 1/2 the price. And less than that if you are ok with Look's Classic pedal.
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PBK is great among others. Jeff (BikeWNC) introduced me to PBK many moons back. :thumb:
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I flipped my stem 6 degrees several miles ago. LOL! So far I have ridden 50-60 miles and no neck, shoulder, back pain. I also noticed that I have more power on the pedals. I also noticed an increase in average speed on my local route according to my Garmin data. :thumb:
Here is a before and after pictures of the flipped and dropped stem. :D :D :D
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Beautiful Cervelo, that is one sexy bike!
Are you saying you have more power since flipping the stem? My recent fitting involved getting a 100mm stem (replacing old stem) and flipping it in the up (non-BF approved!) position. It doesn't look nearly as cool but I can now ride in the drops comfortably. I am in the drops over 50 percent of the time these days. Can you ride in the drops with that aggressive bar position? If so, very impressive!
Also, I picked up an ultegra 11-28 cassette and installed it (it's actually on loan from a friend) and plan to test it tomorrow on a 50 mile ride. It replaces a 12-26 cassette. I almost got the SRAM red cassette to match the rest of my Red group but I'm hoping to save a couple bucks. Will take pix tomorrow. I want a sexy racing bike but my bike is soo darn comfy I hate to make a change.
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Riding lower more aero gives me more opportunity to fire up the gluts. I like my new found power. :thumb: Just can't wait for that shoe and pedals.
@Jack, have fun on the 50mile ride. 11-28 that is quite a range there. I was thinking about getting a SRAM 12-26 or Shimie 12-27/28 for climbing.
@guys, What do you think about the Rotor 3D cranks + Rotor oval rings? :)
Can you ride in the drops with that aggressive bar position? If so, very impressive!
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For some reason I like the other angle better. Hmmm...
I like my Starbucks venti shaken iced tea lemonade slightly sweetened!
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Levi,
Limited experience on the Rotor cranks but here are my thoughts. Nice crank. Reasonably light, good build quality, cool looking, stiff, ok price, like being able to have separate chainrings.
The rings; did not like them as well. Felt somewhat odd. Kind of felt like riding a fixie at a slow cadence. Though I'm sure with more time on them one would adjust accordingly.
One of the bikes I rode them on was on the smaller side, so not sure if that impacted my thoughts?
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We did Tour de Bronx over the weekend and had a blast! This tour was mix bag of cyclists from recumbents, low-riders, fixies, Mtb etc. The tour allowed us to hammer it after the first rest top at mile 9. It is only 40 miles but we averaged 15mph cruising in the City with all the lights and stop signs. Needless to say, my group of 6 were the first to end and have FREE pizza, drinks, t-shirts and swags. Many thanks to Transportation Alternative and to all the sponsor for truly a great experience. :thumb:
Here is my Garmin data: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/54268496
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Panoramic picture at the start of the 40miler. 25miler guys on the other side (not in picture). :)
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Plenty of space
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Free Breakfast
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Free Lunch and drinks
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Free T-shirt (My friend Jose Hernandez)
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Money shot. :lol:
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Wish I had known about that ride. Didn't ride at all this weekend. :( Gotta get back out soon. Unfortunately I am out of the country the next two weekends.
Got my lights this weekend so I can ride in the evenings. I also got my Garmin 705 the week before, but still haven't learned how to use it.
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Wish I had known about that ride. Didn't ride at all this weekend. :( Gotta get back out soon. Unfortunately I am out of the country the next two weekends.
Got my lights this weekend so I can ride in the evenings. I also got my Garmin 705 the week before, but still haven't learned how to use it.
I will keep you informed next time.
Congrats on the 705!
What do you need help with?
1.) I would start creating an online account at GarminConnect.com so you can upload your ride data after each ride.
2.) At the beginning of each ride, It is important to start the timer at the beginning otherwise you will not gather data. Stop it at end.
3.) Set the display to stay on at all times and adjust the backlit accordingly. The 705 batteries will last a long time but to be safe I always leave it plugged in to usb port after each upload.
It is easier to show you in person. However, you will find these video tutorials just as easy.
http://www8.garmin.com/learningcenter/training/edge705/index.html
Enjoy the trip and be safe. If you are going to Italy my size is Medium. ;)
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Levi, great advice as always. Garminconnect.com is excellent.
Josh, please see if you can bring back a Colnago C-59 for me if you are in Italy! :thumb:
You shouldn't have any trouble setting up the Garmin. I love the way it allows you to track your mileage and performance. I only have the 500 but I like it a lot. It's fun to compare rides and track miles. Travel safe and post your garmin data when you start riding. It's fun to share data and compare rides. You can also go to Google Earch to map your rides.
I just discovered cracks in my rear wheel (drive side) and plan to test Trek's warrantee service later tonight.
Also, my new car has arrived and I am going to pick it up tonight. I wound up getting the Maxima in silver (I think that's the color, can't remember). Not my first choice but I'm not complaining about a free car. Will post pix later this week.
Cheers,
Jack
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Congrats on the new FREE car J!
Here is my Garmin data. Check the average pace for 2:40 hours. :thumb:. Total mileage would be a lot more if I recorded the ride from Queens to Bronx and back. Probably did a Metric century that day. Nothing new. :)
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Congrats on the new FREE car J!
Here is my Garmin data. Check the average pace for 2:40 hours. :thumb:. Total mileage would be a lot more if I recorded the ride from Queens to Bronx and back. Probably did a Metric century that day. Nothing new. :)
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Very cool stuff! I love my Garmin and can't imagine not having such a powerful and useful device.
Also, my rear wheel on my Trek (Bontrager Race Lite) developed cracks along the drive side spokes. Trek is giving me a warranty replacement (5 year warranty on wheels@!) and they gave me a loaner set. I'm going to get some racing wheels next year but want to wait until I look at some complete bikes over the winter because if I buy a complete bike they will hopefully have nice wheels.
No riding for me until Friday night because I'm traveling. Keep posting the garmin data, please! It looks like you are in pretty good shape. My HR routinely is in the 170's on long rides and often in the 180 range. I need to drop some weight because I'm the fattest guy in my group (there is one fatter guy but he doesn't ride very often and usually gives up after 10-20 miles so I don't count him in my figures).
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Thanks J.
Go for aero wheelset above 30mm depth, they surely help maintain your average speed @17-21MPH. Unfortunately, most wheelset are not included when your purchase a bike. Perhaps wheel choices are personal thing. Maybe if the price tag on the bike were around $7-12K, then they started adding aero wheelsets from Shimano, Fulcrum, Lightweight and Mavic but not Zipp wheels. :)
I strive to conserve energy on long road rides. My target is to keep my heart rate zone below 170 BPM Max.
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My research also ended up buying the Zero model because of its 0-15 degree adjustability/ease of use. Switching from Crank Bros eggbeater to Speedplay Zero proved seamless for me. However, the Speedplay Zero is much more stable and comfortable pedaling hard efforts over long distance. Power transfer is more direct and no more hot spots under the ball of my foot. Problem solved!
The only downside was walking fast on road cleats. Even with the Cafe covers which helps. It is a minor inconvenience specially in the City were riding bikes on walkways or stairs were not allowed. Other than that, the Speedplay Zero pedals performs. No looking down or flipping, just step on them. That is all there is to it.
May I add that the Ti version has shorter spindles for improved Q-factor. Trying the stainless steel version then switching to Ti proves even more performance. It will not make me win races but it surely makes my Road cycling much more fun. :)
Just make sure that cleats are adjusted properly. Mine needed an optional fore/aft adjustment plate. Likely I bought mine from a local bike shop who has the Speedplay fit kit.
Thanks to everyone here for the input on the Speedplay pedals.
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In the last photo it looks like the adjustment screw for the "heel in" direction should be snugged up to the adjustment tab - or am I missing something?
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In the last photo it looks like the adjustment screw for the "heel in" direction should be snugged up to the adjustment tab - or am I missing something?
The heel in/out 0-15 float adjustment is personal so that seems to work for me at the moment. :) BTW, that was the factory settings if that helps.
More pictures.
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Lightweight?
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Low stack height
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Wow, those cleats look huge!
I use Time ATAC pedals for both my MTB and Road/CX bike and the cleats aren't even noticeable.
I know most road cleats are larger than their MTB counterparts but I never realized by how much.
Has anybody asked you how the air is up there? :lol:
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Good choice Levi. Very nice pedals. With the large float, typically work well with those who experience some mild knee pains.
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Not in the pro class but sorry I did not get to meet you guys as I did the 40 miler. Took a nasty fall about almost at the end and sprained my right thumb which was like a baloon for most of this past week. Great ride as always when the weather is good.
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I was looking around the group during today's ride and approximately 75% of the cyclists in my group have Speedplay pedals...the rest seem to have Look pedals. I have look but when they wear out, I'm getting Speedplay to get more float.
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I use Look Keo Carbon pedals with the grey cleat that has about 5º of float. That is plenty for me. I tried Speedplay pedals once and just didn't like them.
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Hi all,
Jazzman here from Savannah, GA. I'm just a weekend warrior, not very fast, just out to get a little exercise riding behind the ladies. It's good to see some fellow audiofiles on road bikes---very cool.
I'm riding a 1989 Kestrel I bought for $200 and restored & upgraded 4 years ago. Before and after pics are attached. Anyway, just saying hi everybody!
Charlie
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37999)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=38000)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=38001)
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I had a pair of Look pedals for ten years until I replaced them this year with Shimano Dura Ace pedals and another pair of Shimano PD-R670 (identical to Ultegra pedals except for color and lack of "Ultegra" branding"). The old Look pedal design was effectively "sunsetted", so since I wanted to use the same pair of shoes on both my bikes, I was forced to buy new pedals. Otherwise, my 10 year old Look pedals still work as new. I replaced the cleats maybe three times over a ten year period.
BTW, for you Speedplay and Garmin guys, you might be interested to know that Garmin has a new power meter coming out in which the sensor is mounted in a Speedplay pedal spindle. This is ultra cool. You can effectively move the power meter between bikes just by changing the pedals.
The article is here (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/tech-news-garmin-acquires-metrigear).
I've been following this closely and waiting for it to happen. As soon as it happens, I'm going to get a pair right away. That is, as long as they are not outrageously expensive. Several people in my group have Powertaps and I am sold on the utility of power meter training. I was hoping the Look/Polar pedal that is in the works was Ant+ compatible but it's not so I'm not interested. I'm excited about these new power measurement tools coming down the road
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Hi all,
Jazzman here from Savannah, GA. I'm just a weekend warrior, not very fast, just out to get a little exercise riding behind the ladies. It's good to see some fellow audiofiles on road bikes---very cool.
I'm riding a 1989 Kestrel I bought for $200 and restored & upgraded 4 years ago. Before and after pics are attached. Anyway, just saying hi everybody!
Charlie
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=37999)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=38000)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=38001)
Charlie, that's a sweet looking ride. Great paint job also! Congrats on the very good deal you got on that bike. Kestrel used to make some very well respected bikes. They were the pioneers of CF technology.
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Charlie, that's a sweet looking ride. Great paint job also! Congrats on the very good deal you got on that bike. Kestrel used to make some very well respected bikes. They were the pioneers of CF technology.
Yes, the frame is molded of uni-directional (not woven) plies of IM-6 carbon fiber; which is actually stronger but less impact resistant than woven carbon. I lucked up and found original old-stock new Kestrel decals on Ebay for $50.
The paint is not original but a General Motors color (polyurethane base-coat) and the decals are under the first stage clear coats. The first state clear coat was sanded flat with #500 grit to smooth over the decals and then clear coated again. The second stage clear coat was wet-sanded flat with #2500 grit and the sand scratches were then hand-buffed away using three successive finer grades of polishing compound. No bike manufacturers that I know of take those final sanding and polishing steps-- so, the paint job is quite exceptional. It's not hard to do but it is a lot of work!
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Great job on the paint. You don't happen to work for Calfee Design?!? http://www.calfeedesign.com/index.htm
Definitely, pedals like saddles are personal thing.
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Great job on the paint. You don't happen to work for Calfee Design?!? http://www.calfeedesign.com/index.htm
Definitely, pedals like saddles are personal thing.
I work for Gulfstream Aerospace in carbon composites but I learned how to paint in my fist profession-- autobody repair. These days I'm too old and lazy to paint anything bigger than a bike. The frame is a relative featherweight but the Brooks saddle weighs 580 grams!! I'm more concerned about my ass than going fast. :lol:
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Good painting skills surely is a plus. I tried touching up my bumper one time and it sure was lots of labor work. You really did a great job with the paint work. Congrats!
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My group rode to the top of Bear Mountain today. The climb is @1,300 brutal ft. :thumb:
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Bear%20Mtn%20Ride%20Nov%202010/BearMountainRide.jpg)
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178 rpm Max Bike Cadence? That's some spinning.
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I'm not aware that I can do that high of an rpm going downhill but it could be an instrumental glitch. Don't know for sure.
178 rpm Max Bike Cadence? That's some spinning.
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I'm not aware that I can do that high of an rpm going downhill but it could be an instrumental glitch. Don't know for sure.
I always get a 180-200+ max cadence but have never actually seen it on the meter during a real ride. You can make your cadence show really high numbers if you "rock" the pedals back and forth when you are coasting or on a downhill. If you stradle pedals in the 3-9 o'clock position and rock them back and forth, the sensor thinks you are pedaling super fast. Using this method, you can probably go over 250 rpm's but it's not accurate of course.
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FYI - just installed my new Garmin Edge 800 this weekend. I like it a lot! Unfortunately, I've fallen a bit out of shape, so I'm a little embarrassed to share my first couple of rides with it from Garmin Connect... :oops:
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You're not the only one. My jeans are very tight these days. :oops:
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FYI - just installed my new Garmin Edge 800 this weekend. I like it a lot! Unfortunately, I've fallen a bit out of shape, so I'm a little embarrassed to share my first couple of rides with it from Garmin Connect... :oops:
Congrats on the new Garmin. All of my bike-geek friends seem to hate the idea of a touch screen Garmin but I think the GPS functionality (directions!) is a real bonus. I love the little 500 Edge but I miss having directions (the few times I ride alone). I was lost once or twice, at night, and used my compass on the Edge to get home. Directions would have been much better!
Don't be afraid to post your results. Good or bad, you should be proud that you took the time to get on a bike and ride. I have been slowed by an injury but I managed to do a couple spin classes to keep the legs pumping.
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I tried to do the Rocket Ride this Sunday...was doing ok until a traffic jam split the peloton into 3 groups at around mile 7. I got stuck in the second group, then burnt myself out crossing the gap to the lead group on the incline at mile 9. Got dropped from the lead group after a couple of miles, but was able to hook up with a 2-man chase group til mile 15 before falling off in shame... took it easy for the next 10 miles going home from there :oops:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/57446770
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I tried to do the Rocket Ride this Sunday...was doing ok until a traffic jam split the peloton into 3 groups at around mile 7. I got stuck in the second group, then burnt myself out crossing the gap to the lead group on the incline at mile 9. Got dropped from the lead group after a couple of miles, but was able to hook up with a 2-man chase group til mile 15 before falling off in shame... took it easy for the next 10 miles going home from there :oops:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/57446770
Are you crazy? I think you are too hard on yourself. Looking at your time, you are a fast rider. Maybe not as fast as the guys you are racing against, but I wish I had your speed!
Congrats.
J
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Are you crazy? I think you are too hard on yourself. Looking at your time, you are a fast rider. Maybe not as fast as the guys you are racing against, but I wish I had your speed!
Congrats.
J
Well, there's not a worse feeling you can have on a bike than to be giving it your all only to see the guys in front of you pulling away... :(
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Well, there's not a worse feeling you can have on a bike than to be giving it your all only to see the guys in front of you pulling away... :(
I am no stranger to that feeling... :oops:
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Accept the fact Phil. We are not getting any younger. :lol: You have to stop smoking cigarettes. :duh:
I would like to great everyone Happy Thanksgiving! :wine:
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Accept the fact Phil. We are not getting any younger. :lol: You have to stop smoking cigarettes. :duh:
I would like to great everyone Happy Thanksgiving! :wine:
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone!
Phil smokes???? You have to be joking (I hope).
Phil, I smoked until August '09 and liked it a lot. I loved smoking and still miss that first smoke in the morning with my coffee. That one wasn't the problem, it was the other 30-40 or so that followed it every day. Quitting was tough but I would not be able to ride with my group if I continued to smoke. They are too fast and I can barely keep up without the smokes.
Every once in a while I miss cigarettes but I never regret giving them up.
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I slowed down on smoking 2 years ago, then quit almost completely a year ago. Still have an occasional one socially, but definitely regret it the day after....! :oops:
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Our poor thread is dying, like the leaves on the...oh, you know what I mean. Anyway, if anyone is interested in a cool American made cool anodized aluminum bike, you should check out some of these closeouts from Mickey at Spooky cycles in Mass. I hear Mickey's bikes are kick-ass and I think they look cool. Much cooler than those Cannondale bikes everyone is in love with on Bikeforums.net. Spooky bikes also makes great cyclecross bikes. Mickey is updating the website and will have a fresh batch in the spring.
Spooky is the last of the production (non custom) reasonably priced US made aluminum frames on the market. And he is blowing out 52cm size if anyone is interested ($600 ish). These are racing frames, not mass produced junk and are a great deal at twice the price. There is something cool about riding a small production, hand made bike from a small shop like Spooky. I'm getting one in the spring, when he starts making 56cm!
http://spookybikes.bigcartel.com/product/skeletor-closeout-frame-only
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=39453)
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Agree Jack, Spooky frames rock. Anyone looking for a great frame at a reasonable price, here you go. Especially makes a great frame for those looking for a racing bike and not wanting to beat up or risk their main bike.
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Nice bike! I thought Jack bought a new bike. :)
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Agree Jack, Spooky frames rock. Anyone looking for a great frame at a reasonable price, here you go. Especially makes a great frame for those looking for a racing bike and not wanting to beat up or risk their main bike.
Hey Jeff, I knew you would be familiar with Spooky! I've been in touch with Mickey and he's a great guy. I hear his frames are not like typical mass produced aluminum (which can be harsh). Spooky bikes are supposed to be stiff without being rough riding. His workmanship is great and Frake the Welder is known to work magic with his torch on Spooky bikes from time to time My knee is fully recovered and I lost 10 lbs over the past month (stress!) but I have not been on a bike in weeks. It's freezing cold and rainy with sleet in Chi-town. Not my kind of riding weather. Hopefully we will get a dry and above 35F day this weekend because i'm itching to ride.
Levi, no new bike yet! He only has 52" on sale and it's too small for me. I love my bike but have been looking at Spooky bikes for a while. He also makes some cool mountain bikes for very reasonable $$$. I don't know if he has anything for sale at the moment but you never know! These bikes are unique and ready to race!
Cheers,
J
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Thanks Jack. The only thing that catches my eyes are the welds. I'd like smoother welds like the CAAD9/10 bikes. The deep dish wheels helped lots with the looks. My next build would be a 29er. :)
BTW, Happy Birthday Phil! :thumb:
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Happy Birthday Phil!
Hi Levi, you are thinking about the old CAAD9's not the 10's. The CAAD10 has normal looking welds and is made in Asia right along side GT and Schwinn (probably) because those are sister companies. The Cannondale you knew is no more. Either way, I would take a Spooky frame oveyninr any aluminum Cannondale, even the Caad9. Spooky doesn't sand the welds and they look beautiful. These are really nice bikes and very inexpensive.
I'm not getting a 29" because I think I'll get more use out of a cyclecross bike. Twentyniners are very cool but I would get more use out of a cross bike. I live in IL and there aren't any technical trails.
Best of luck.
J
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I am totally talking about the new CAAD10. :) The welds are smooth which makes it a finished bike to my eyes that is. If someone said it is carbon, I would probably believed it. That's just me.
Anyway, good luck with the Spooky frame. It looks like a great bike from pictures but if it does not fit you properly (geometry wise), you will be in a world of hurt and pain.
A few pictures here from BikeRadar and they look even better in person.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Cannondale%20CAAD10/Caad10d.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Cannondale%20CAAD10/Caad10f.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Cannondale%20CAAD10/Caad10e.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Cannondale%20CAAD10/Caad10a.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Cannondale%20CAAD10/Caad10b.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Cannondale%20CAAD10/Caad10c.jpg)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=39453)
Spooky
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=39517)
Spooky Skeletor
Cheers!
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Hey you are right those c Dale welds are sanded down. Not as smooth as the old cannandale but still pretty smooth. Either way I'm not excited about their new bikes but will bar to see one in person.
Take care
J
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I rode 96 miles in 5:35 ride time yesterday down near Charleston, SC with a friend. I had tight and sore calves and hamstrings all day which made for a long ride.
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Thanks for sharing. That is a good pace. :thumb:
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It is getting truly cold up here in the North East and the wind makes it even colder riding on-road. I might have to start riding off-road more often and use the woods for warmth. No wind inside the forest. :) My AirJack851 is not cutting it. I just pulled a trigger on an Assos FuguJack. They have it on sale at Wiggle - Platinum member gets additional 12%off - additional 20% off XMAS10 coupon. :green:
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Thanks for sharing. That is a good pace. :thumb:
Thanks, it was about all I could do at this time of year, it was just 2 of us and we had several long stretches through residential areas where we rode along at 13mph or so. That can kill an average in a hurry.
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Thanks, it was about all I could do at this time of year, it was just 2 of us and we had several long stretches through residential areas where we rode along at 13mph or so. That can kill an average in a hurry.
You bet it would lower your average pace. I really don't care about that since you are not racing anyway. When I do a 100miles or so and you see that it took me 9hrs, that means we stopped somewhere. :lol: Now if you see me do 61 miles for 6hrs off-road that normally people do it for 7hrs, then you can say wow that is above average performance that not everyone can do. :thumb:
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Yeah, it was supposed to be a leisurely ride but my HR didn't agree. That was our wheels rolling time, the total time was a bit over 6 hours. This time of year I want to manage my effort better than I did this past weekend. I can do that when I ride alone but often that doesn't happen when I am part of a small group or even one other rider.
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That is what I believe in, is to compare the timing with previous timing. That is interesting findings, normally you ride faster with a small group but that also depends on the group. What feared me the most is this crazy news from Italy having 8 riders killed by a driver high on pot. :(
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40516070/ns/world_news-europe/
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I saw that report. :(
Where I live, it is meth heads and blind Floridiots. Gladly, the Floridiots have most all gone home now.
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Who rides in the winter? I do.
This is all I need to keep warm. It has a built in balaclava. :)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Assos%20FuguJack/835ccf04.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Assos%20FuguJack/39cf68c5.jpg)
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Assos stuff is top notch. The issue here is when it is cold, the roads are usually icy. Right now it is hard to drive a car on them. Besides, we were 0º this morning. Sorry but that is way below my comfort level. I'll ride in the 30s if the roads are clear. But often there is sand and chat leftover from the last storm so one has to be very cautious.
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It's time to switch to knobbies. When the roads are slick, it is time be bring out your new 29er mountain bike! :thumb:
I have been out in truly windy freezing ride with one base layer with the Assos Fugujack. It is very comfortable jacket for extreme conditions. The AirJack 851 is a joke here in the North East.
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Today was truly a cold day to ride a bike on-road. 29deg F with 15-20mph wind, feels like 15deg F. I know because I was out there. When your water bottle becomes frozen solid 30mins into the ride, that is a clear indication that it is truly COLD OUT! Anyway, I only have an hour or so to spare so I decided to ride on-road from my home to Flushing Meadows Park.
Inside the park was lonely. Not a soul. Making my way back home, I saw what seems like a guy in one of the play grounds Corona side taking pictures of his Litespeed Ti bike. I mean we are talking about 29deg F with the wind, it felt like 15deg F. I have to meet this crazy guy! It turned out to be a truly nice guy! I was expecting he would be a weirdo. I mean who in the right mind is going to ride on-road in the winter? ;D He offered to take my picture, exchange emails and off I go. Anyway, just sharing today's winter ride. 8-)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/flushingmeadows.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/SDIM0813.jpg)
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Our roads are just too snowy/icy to ride right now. Besides, we've been at 0º the past 3 mornings. It warmed up today after we got a dose of freezing rain overnight. The kids have been out of school all week. Too much snow to mtb, roads are too messy to ride on the road, I'm so desperate I may pull out the trainer for the football game tonight. :roll:
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You guys need some of these. :thumb:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=24043)
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Nah, Florida is less than an eight hour drive away. That seems like a much better solution. :lol:
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Not yet a season for studded tires.
The Christmas lights at Brooklyn Heights was spectacular. The whole town seems to have prepared for this. Riders head count was 65 which is insane riding in the dark. It was also freezing cold in the 30s.
Some of my favorite shots from my point-n-shoot.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Weekday%20Cyclist/Lights%20in%20the%20Heights/19d51738.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Weekday%20Cyclist/Lights%20in%20the%20Heights/bcc4cd69.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Weekday%20Cyclist/Lights%20in%20the%20Heights/0d9104ac.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Weekday%20Cyclist/Lights%20in%20the%20Heights/14a27966.jpg)
Until next time!
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Levi
Thanks for sharing the great shots. It's single digits in Chicago and my bike is on the trainer. I need a trainer tire because my conty tires are soft and messing up my trainer. Indoor riding is wicked boring. I hate it and can't wait for upper thirties.
I am not tough enough for single digit riding. It hurts to breathe.
Cheers
J
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I haven't been on my bike(s) in a while, but I just received some of my winter gear so now I can go without freezing my @$$ off.
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I have a trainer too but haven't used it. I am keeping it as a backup. :)
Josh: that is great news man. Winter riding specially off-road is nice this time of the year when the trails are frozen solid.
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Since there was a lot of activity in the "Bicycling Off-Road" thread, thought I'd put up an on-the-road version....
Road-bikers...what was your last ride? Mine was a solo ride from Closter, NJ to Bear Mountain and back...56.58miles, 3h16m ride time, 17.2mph avg, 1890ft total ascent...
Why would anyone in their right mind, ride a bike on the road? With all the distracted drivers yakking on their cell phones, you're just asking for trouble. I haven't been on my road bike since I bought my first mt. bike, 20 some years ago.
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Agreed. It is risky riding bikes on the road specially with people who don't like to share the road. Here in New York, we have lots of bike paths which are totally isolated from cars. Last year, DOT had @6 million usd awarded for the creation of bike paths and bike lanes. NYC is almost bike friendly city ranked among 10 in the Nation.
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I was going to give a smartass reply but I have to agree that riding around a lot of car traffic is no picnic. My road group rides in the early morning on the weekends and we ride counry roads west of my home because they are pretty isolated from car traffic. It's pretty cool because during the summer, there are tons of bikes in this area. Cars have to be very aware of the bikes in the area because there are so many.
I also have bright lights and neon clothing. Not much for fashion, but I try not to blend in with the road around me. Even with all of the precautions, I'm usually good for one close call per month. Most of the close calls are with cars that actually see me and my group and still choose to disregard the "3 foot rule". I'm happy to remind the cars of the law, and have offered a few drivers a personal conversation outside the car but haven't had any takers. I'm glad because I can't imagine trying to tangle with a driver while wearing road bicycling shoes and spandex. Not a pretty sight. :lol:
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I got out for a short 40 min hill climb on my mtb today. Had to hike through some snow at one point. I'm not going to ride on frozen ice/snow on pavement. I value my shoulders/clavicles too much. We're expecting another good bit of snow this weekend. I'm ready for Spring.
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I had a man try and do a hit and run on me I think. At first it seemed like a scar tactic but when I think about it, it sure seems like he wanted to clip my handle bars.
I was going down a one way street with two lanes. I had turned onto it from an alleyway that is halfway down a block from a light.
When I came to the next intersection I knew that the light behind me (I had looked earlier) was releasing one oncoming car but it was a far ways off. To my right was a green two door Accord (you might be gathering why I have a description of it) waiting to turn right onto the one way. It seemed to have time to go before I reached the intersection but that old pause some cars give that put a person on a bicycle, on edge... it was very short compared to those that have thrown eggs though.
Right after I passed the intersection I hear the GA (green Accord) punch it from the get go. This was not an after the fact of passing me did I notice the speed, this was 4K+rpm's preceding our interaction.
Let me explain something about Missoula. They plow the arterials but not the bike lanes. We are lucky if they melt on their own time. This left me occupying a bit closer to the right wheel track which I should have been occupying but it is habit to try and be over to the right (or left on one ways). Usually I occupy the right wheel track if the area has parked cars and there is just not
enough room for every body (cars in my lane and the opposite flow on the other side, often at the Hip Strip which is four lane).
The car came closer than any other car I have not made contact with while riding. I thought something might be up when I heard the engine but considered the amount of distance by the car back at the light so there was room. I was suspicious and anticipating something stupid. Well I got it. He continued to fly down the street awfully fast but leveled out a bit a few blocks down and hit a red light around 4 blocks down. I did not have time to catch up to him at the light on my low geared winter ex-downhill rigid fixie but the guy pulled into the parking lot of the grocery store I was headed too.
I had to wait a light cycle at the light he stopped at but it took a bit before he got out of his car (hiding?) and I went into the parking lot. How do I handle this? Do I do something devious to his car? Hm but then he might just drive around looking for me - not the kind of thing I want to promote of some big hate circle. Well I decided to leave a note that said some to the effect,
"You could have killed or seriously injured me on my bike a few minutes ago. The roads are slick, you gunned it, forcing me toward ice. I am being with cheer to leave a note instead of"
That was as far as I got, but was going to say, "car damage, but remember not everyone is as nice or skilled on a bicycle." My adrenaline was certainly still high, but the man walked out before I finished the note.
I approached him saying sir is that your green car there to which he said yes. I did my best to keep a calm manner. It went something like this.
Me: "Sir you could of seriously injured me a few minutes ago on my bicycle, I could of hit my head, anything"
Him: "You where forcing me into the middle of the road where there was another car"
(not true, he entered a lane I already occupied at an opportunistic time so it would look like he got into a cram but the car behind him either had not made it close enough or slowed down when it noticed something was fishy, will elaborate later)
Me: "Sir the sides of the road are icing, I WAS NOT DOING ANYTHING, I could of really been hurt"
Him: I think he said something but what exactly I am not sure, again I was just sensing attitude of 'screw this guy who rides a bike I hope he dies right now so he will stop talking'
Me: "Man I am talking to you instead of doing something to your car" (I have a shtick where I do not want people in cars feeling like people on bicycle are free targets that never fight back so they can push them around plus more importantly I wanted to bring his attention to what was in front of him, that I was being very level headed - even though I was shaky because my life was within a couple of inches of potentially being ended or drastically changed - and trying to level with him like real humans are capable of doing)
Him: "If you touched my car I would of taken you apart" (wow, that was like a slam in my face that I had not expected to encounter when I was trying to be responsible about the situation)
Me: "Man I am not doing anything to your car" (he had the demeanor where he wanted me to invoke a situation where he got to 'take me apart' - oh and he was a tall dude that was certainly not all skin and bone so a fight would of been really unpleasant) "you could of really hurt me"
Him: He starts walking away now that I know he would like to be physical, wants harm to me
Me: Raising my voice as he walks away, feeling awkward because there is little I can say to someone who just flat out wants me hurt like I am a terrorist or something; voted for the president that he probably does not like (not true I do not vote for dem/rep) "sir I am not doing anything to your car but you could of seriously hurt me"
Looking back on it I realized the car that came through at the light was parallel to me a ways down the road after all the interaction and I never noticed it in the far lane during any of it. The guy used it as an excuse. He did not say anything like do not touch my car, he said it like it would of been an exchange you touch my car and I take you apart. It is not like he really ran away, and he was willing to talk long enough to threaten me. This leaves me with an eerie feeling something bad will happen on my bicycle now, to which there is no civil way to discuss or work forward from someone getting maimed.
He wanted me to be hurt - he had serious conviction to what he was saying like it was war - what could I have done? When do I get to hold his life in my hands? If I do something to his car it just starts a bad situation, but I have done nothing. All he learned was he gets to push bicyclists around especially since he does not even feel the need to defend himself with some sort of guilt as he was just looking for a way to mess with me but in a way that would be hard to be construed as anything but wanting the most accidental looking harm to me happen. Essentially he had his plea to a higher power ready and he was good to go.
Even getting in a fight with him would of been awful and even if I hurt the dude he could just drive around looking for me again. This really irks me to deal with what appears to be someone that chooses to fight their problems with violent efforts first and knows they have no interest in changing their mind in light of new information. Dealing with someone who just wants others to die as a first resort to his problems is scary. Not having regard for human life is fascinating but the only way to combat it is to either control them or kill them and I see neither happening. I mean short of getting some miracle heart grow juice that mimics what happened to the Grinch That Stole Christmas I see no other ideas.
Anyways Happy Holidays. Ha... nice awful story for you all. By the way it is very common for vehicles to be much ruder and honk more during winter. I am not sure if it is because bicycles have to stay clear of the ice so they appear more obtrusive to something they have the right to anyways? or just that people want an excuse to be rude (or in some cases harm).
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Destroyer of Smiles,
I am sorry to hear about what happened to you. Some of the auto drivers out there really scare me and I've had my share of close calls and scrapes with rude drivers. I've actually been in situations very similar to the one you describe in your post, and follow one simple rule (okay, maybe two rules):
Don't provoke a physical confrontation unless you are ready and willing to fight the other person. Oh, and don't get into fights after the initial incident because it's not worth it!
I admit that I have stared down drivers, smiled and shook my head after some near misses but I no longer pound on a hood or roof of a car, squirt the windshield with water (from my water bottle) and challenge drivers to fight in the street. It's a losing battle because you might get beat up, and if you beat the other guy up, you might wind up in jail. Even worse, you beat him up and he gets even by running you over a mile down the road. There is no happy ending to this story, so you are better off just smiling, shaking your head and watching out for idiot drivers.
Good luck!
J
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It is good to know that you are riding cold weather! You did the right thing controlling yourself and preventing further altercation. I would write a letter to your City Mayor about making the roads more cyclist friendly specially during snow season. Check with your local board who can make better bike lanes etc. Keep riding!
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This is my ride for the winter...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=40843)
I set it up properly (raised seat and lowered bars a bit) and oiled the chain. It's a club model that was used in a home for a year. I should say "used" because I could not find any signs of wear. This bike is a tank with a 43lb flywheel and overall weight of over 120lbs. It is super stable and has a very solid feel. I hope to overcome boredom of riding indoors soon.
Does anyone have any indoor DVD recommendations? I need to get something soon because riding is very boring. Need distractions!
Cheers,
Jack
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Nice! At least you are riding. ;)
Due to snow and salt on the ground, I use my MTB onroad. 25-30miles every other day.
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Nice! At least you are riding. ;)
Due to snow and salt on the ground, I use my MTB onroad. 25-30miles every other day.
I envy you. I don't mind riding in the snow or rain but it's been super cold and windy in Chicago and the roads I normally ride are very dangerous. Indoor riding is my best bet for at least a couple months. My wife can also ride the spin bike so it's hopefully going to get some action. The build quality is very good, it's a club model, and I need to get in the habbit of riding every day. I'm going for a ride right now. I only have one DVD (forgot I had a Spinervals that came with my Kurt Kinetic). It's not the best DVD but it beats nothing.
Take care,
J
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(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=40845)
Here's my state of the art bike.
Frank
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Hey Jack,
See you found one. Looks like a nice find.
I'll see if I kept any of my TDF, PR, etc, dvd's that I can send your way. For some reason I think they went to Goodwill though.
I usually ended up watching tv to pass my time.
Enjoy.
Regards,
Jeff
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Hey Jack,
See you found one. Looks like a nice find.
I'll see if I kept any of my TDF, PR, etc, dvd's that I can send your way. For some reason I think they went to Goodwill though.
I usually ended up watching tv to pass my time.
Enjoy.
Regards,
Jeff
Thanks Jeff, you are very generous. I fell asleep last night and did not get much time on the bike. Wrapping up some work stuff and hope to get a half hour in today. It's not bad but I need to be more mentally tough!
Cheers,
J
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The trails are still frozen. Some ice on road but not bad using MTB.
I decided to go the opposite direction away from NYC to check out our local single track. Cunningham Park is still unrideable.
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Pile of snow at the trailhead
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I recently registered for Tour of the Battenkill...complete insanity... :duh:
http://www.tourofthebattenkill.com/
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Congrats Phil. 64 and 82 miles is doable.
It looks like the category for my age bracket were closed already. If you need a training buddy, let me know.
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Congrats Phil. 64 and 82 miles is doable.
It looks like the category for my age bracket were closed already. If you need a training buddy, let me know.
It's 64 miles, with 4000+ft of climbing and 30% of the course is dirt... :duh:
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ouch! Sounds like cyclecross. I'd die.
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It's 64 miles, with 4000+ft of climbing and 30% of the course is dirt... :duh:
Hey Phil, you can do it no without a doubt. My recent bike ride to Bear Mountain has a total of 6,900+ feet of elevation gain. That is starting from Queens. It is much easier on a bike that weighs 15-16lbs. Make sure you have the proper rear cassette gearing.
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Hey Phil, you can do it no without a doubt. My recent bike ride to Bear Mountain has a total of 6,900+ feet of elevation gain. That is starting from Queens. It is much easier on a bike that weighs 15-16lbs. Make sure you have the proper rear cassette gearing.
I know I can finish....but the question is how fast? The 45yr+ cat 5 winner last year finished in about 3 hours....
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3hrs 64 miles is good pace for cyclocross. I am sure you can pre-ride the course and figure out where you stand. Then start training until you reach your goal. Which bike are you racing for the tour of the battenkill?
You can load the course in your Garmin 800. Login to Garmin connect, select explore and search of Battenkill, NY. Once you find the course that you like, export the TCX file and upload it in your Garmin 800.
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3hrs 64 miles is good pace for cyclocross. I am sure you can pre-ride the course and figure out where you stand. Then start training until you reach your goal. Which bike are you racing for the tour of the battenkill?
You can load the course in your Garmin 800. Login to Garmin connect, select explore and search of Battenkill, NY. Once you find the course that you like, export the TCX file and upload it in your Garmin 800.
It's a road race, so I'm riding my road bike (Spectrum). Won't be able to make the trip to do the pre-ride, but will certainly do what I can to train. This is particularly tough being so early in the season...
Will see about loading it into Garmin, but will that do anything for me if I can't make it out to the course until race day?
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The reason I asked you because you have so many bikes.
If you are not doing a pre-ride. No it won't do you anything as far as Garmin and training since the course will be marked when you get there. If you can, train the terrain, it would be foolish not to do it even once so you know what to expect.
Drop 2 pills of endurolytes every hour. Set your Garmin to remind you to drink every 15-30 mins. Finally, race your own pace. Try to stay above 85% of max heart rate throughout the race. I've done many endurance races and that seems to work for me. Welcome to crampville. :thumb:
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For my road bikes, the Spectrum is really the only one I ride. The Colnago, beautiful and comfortable as it is, could work well as a good training bike since it is a bit heavy....but I'm more nervous about crashing that one since it has such a nice paint job. And I have put my Cinelli officially to rest...it has a 7-speed drivetrain, and the rear cogs are worn down so much that the chain keeps jumping. Not worth replacing the cogs at this point, so the bike is headed to my wall as a piece of art....
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For my road bikes, the Spectrum is really the only one I ride. The Colnago, beautiful and comfortable as it is, could work well as a good training bike since it is a bit heavy....but I'm more nervous about crashing that one since it has such a nice paint job. And I have put my Cinelli officially to rest...it has a 7-speed drivetrain, and the rear cogs are worn down so much that the chain keeps jumping. Not worth replacing the cogs at this point, so the bike is headed to my wall as a piece of art....
Phil, why not get a new cassette and chain rings for the Cinelli from Ebay? There are usually some decent NOS rings floating around or maybe a new replacement set. I'd sell it and the Nago and put the $$$ towards a new Powertap.
Also, I finally did some "spinning" in my home this weekend. Surprised my fitness level had declined so much since November but it was very obvious. The Spin bike is a nice alternative to my bike on the Kurt Kinetic trainer. The spin bike is more stable and easier to practice standing on the pedals. I am going to wire my old Cateye with Cadence to the spin bike to make it more interesting. Plus, the Cateye is just laying around.
Cheers!
J
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Hey Jack I feel for you about loosing your fitness. You have to stop driving your new Maxima. Having extra power on tap is so addictive. ;)
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Hey Jack I feel for you about loosing your fitness. You have to stop driving your new Maxima. Having extra power on tap is so addictive. ;)
I wish I could take some of that power and transfer it to my legs! At the moment, my bike riding is like a big truck with a tiny 4 banger motor...and a flat tire. That Maxima is a sweet ride. After I got it, my company added Audi A4 to the list (just a basic model with auto trans, 2.0T motor, etc.) and I started to have second thoughts about my selection. After riding in an A4 this past weekend, I think I like the Maxima better for road trips. The A4 is more like my BMW, tighter handling and "zippier" than the Maxima. The Maxima is larger, softer riding and has nice torque. Either way, it's too late to change my mind...
I took some time off to rest an injured knee and feel pretty good. I'm going to put that new spin bike to good use. It's a commercial model and is very solid and comfortable to ride. I'm going to pick up some spinning shoes because it's impossible to walk (in case I have to answer the phone or use the bathroom) in my road shoes, even with SPD pedals. Also have some Spinervals DVD's coming and hope they make indoor training rides less boring.
Cheers,
Jack
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Phil, why not get a new cassette and chain rings for the Cinelli from Ebay? There are usually some decent NOS rings floating around or maybe a new replacement set. I'd sell it and the Nago and put the $$$ towards a new Powertap.
Also, I finally did some "spinning" in my home this weekend. Surprised my fitness level had declined so much since November but it was very obvious. The Spin bike is a nice alternative to my bike on the Kurt Kinetic trainer. The spin bike is more stable and easier to practice standing on the pedals. I am going to wire my old Cateye with Cadence to the spin bike to make it more interesting. Plus, the Cateye is just laying around.
Cheers!
J
It's a 7-speed Campy C-Record setup...no cassette, so I'd have to get all the cogs individually. I'm considering it, but it's tough putting money into this bike given that I probably won't ride it as much (am now very spoiled by having shifters on the handlebar!).
And not looking to sell it...I'm a sucker for vintage/classic stuff, so these bikes will go on my wall before they get sold!
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Hi Phil
I guess I just showed how much I know about vintage bikes. I like the looks of vintage bikes and can't blame you for the attachment and admiration of their beauty. I wish I had room for as many bikes as I would like to own!
Cheers
J
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Jan 12, 2011: Yet another trip to New York City. The wind was so strong and very cold my water bottle was frozen solid. Most of the time I thought I was pedaling sideways. Between the snow and wind, I truly had a great work out today. The weather truly sucks today. I only saw 2-3 people on bikes today.
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Central Park is in great shape
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Central Park like it is
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West Side Bike and Pedestrian lane
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Just sharing the mlles.
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Does the City actually plow the bike path? How is the access to Central Park from the bridge? Is there a lot of traffic crossing town?
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Yes, the City, Parks NYC and other organization has funding for maintenance which includes plowing and salt etc.
Access to Central Park from Queens is via 59th Street bridge (Queens Borough Bridge) is very good. Most of the bike lanes have been plowed. Lots of cars in the City, I figured out away to avoid busy streets but sometimes you cannot avoid them. Be super cautious and alert around town. It is fun when you get to the car free lanes. :thumb:
Does the City actually plow the bike path? How is the access to Central Park from the bridge? Is there a lot of traffic crossing town?
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Beautiful pictures of NYC. I'm stuck in a hotel in Michigan and would rather be riding my bike in Central Park, even with the snow!
Cheers,
J
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Great pics Levi. You are a much better man than I for riding in that weather.
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Thanks. I don't want to lose my fitness just sitting at home listening to music. I have a trainer but can only use it for 30mins before it becomes monotonous.
I am still awaiting for NYC Parks to put a dome over CentralPark. :lol:
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Thanks Phil for the Garmin Edge 800 info. DC Rainmaker also have an extensive review of the all the Garmin Edge products imaginable.
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2010/08/garmin-edge-800-in-depth-first-look.html
I am convinced!
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/2%20Garmin%20Connect/Garmin800.jpg)
Needless to say, what will I do with my Garmin Edge 705 now?!?
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There is not much to say that DC Rainmaker has not covered in his review of the new Garmin Edge 800.
Just a couple of findings:
The new firware 2.10 seems to have fixed some of the Edge 800 initial glitches.
I was able to install the TOPOGRAPHY U.S. 24K map into my new Garmin 800! The TOPO U.S. DVD map can be installed to more than one device. However, the City Navigator North America NT 2011 DVD map was unlocked into my old Edge 705. I have to buy the NT 2011 map again since it can only be installed to a single device.
Here is a side by side picture of the 705 and the 800. The 800 looks like a Garmin 500 on steriods. :D
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/2%20Garmin%20Connect/Garmin705800.jpg)
Just an FYI, Garmin Edge 705 is early spoken for.
Thanks for looking
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1/25: I took my Garmin 800 out today for the first time and this thing is awesome! The 800 is much better than my old 705. The screen is big and colorful. The 800 responds well even with gloves on. Map zooming and panning are 90% faster than the 705. Because of the new screen, I see more details on the Topo U.S. 24K map that I did not see in the 705. The 705 simply cannot display much and slow to respond in comparison. The Topo map simply is better suited for off-road riding or in my current use.
I truly like the Garmin 800. It even tells you what street or avenue is coming ahead. It reminds me of a car navigation system. I never seen that in my 705. Needless to say the 800 is worth every penny.
Highly recommended! 8-)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/2%20Garmin%20Connect/Peakmtbride.jpg)
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I'm just getting used to my Garmin 800. I've had it out on the road the past couple of days and been trying to configure the screens to my liking. My powertap seems to work just fine with it. I like the display. It is s bright as needed and clear. I really don't need the mapping feature, well not yet anyway, and because of that it will take me some time to get used to using it when I do. The 800 is my first bike gps and so far it works as advertised.
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Congrats!
As far as Garmin goes, I have owned the 305, 705 and now the 800. I am currently digging the 800! :thumb:
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What, you don't have the cadence hooked up?
I was afraid you would love your 800 because I am trying NOT to buy one. I like my Edge 500 but it's a totally different animal. The 800 has some cool functions but I'm not sure I would use these functions (mainly directions) becaues I usually ride on familiar roads. The 800 is mighty tempting!
My auto GPS is slow to connect. The fact that the 800 is fast in this area is a real plus. Very cool and thanks for sharing!
J
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I don't use cadence in my MTB. I have one for my Road Bike.
The 800 is a 500 with navigational tools. I like the 800 for exploration and training specially if you load the Topo U.S. 24K map in it.
If I am to buy a 500, I would use the 500 for racing. ;)
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Just an FYI... Garmin has a new Premium Soft Strap. The new soft strap is even more comfortable and supposed to have fixed that erratic HR spikes. This is not the same optional premium soft strap that was bundled with the Garmin 705. The new strap has different sensors in the back and the strap is of different material.
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I have the new soft-strap...the only thing I don't like about it is sometimes when I try to adjust it through my jersey, it unsnaps...and then I have to stop, pull my jersey up and re-snap it. Not a huge issue except for when I'm wearing layers in this cold...!
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The old Premium Soft Strap does not unfasten but it is not as comfortable as the new one. Hopefully, the new strap will not come unfasten while racing. :duh:
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My 800 bundle came with the new soft HR strap. It is so comfortable that I often forget I'm wearing it. Once you get the strap adjusted correctly it is very easy to put on and it stays in place. The older Polar type straps were always sliding down or needed to be so tight they felt restrictive.
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The old premium straps sounds like similar as the older Polar straps then.
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We finally had a really nice weekend here, sunny and in the low 60s. Got out for 59 miles on Sat. and 29 today. We had 5600' of mostly steep climbing in there too. For the week I rode 126 miles and climbed 7900', which are also my totals for the month. :( It's a start anyway. :thumb:
A few pics from the rides.
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Where are the snow? :thumb:
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Where are the snow? :thumb:
The snow has for the most part retreated to the higher elevations. There are still plenty of higher roads we can't ride but the valleys are clear.
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I have to say that NC has one of best places to ride a road bike. Lots of mountains.
We got hit with lots of snow. I can only ride my MTB on road. 32deg weather doesn't bother me. Like my friend Trudy always say, "there are no such thing as bad weather...only bad clothing". :lol:
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I discovered a nice training area in Old Westbury, NY. It is a 4 mile loop, very clean, ultra smooth. Did I mention clean. :thumb:
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/MeandTone.jpg)
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Wow there is still a bunch of snow on the ground up there.
The higher elevations here are still snowed over generally our roads are clear. A week of temps in the 60s will take care of most of the remaining snow. I got out for a 51 mile ride on Sunday. It was cool to start but warmed to 60º by early afternoon.
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Nice pics. It supposed to get warmer this week for some of the snow to melt.
It looks like you have barely room for cars and bike on the road. Any issues with that?
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Nice pics. It supposed to get warmer this week for some of the snow to melt.
It looks like you have barely room for cars and bike on the road. Any issues with that?
There isn't much traffic. Most of our roads have little to no shoulder. I've never felt it to be an issue. There are a few busier roads I avoid but most other roads are fine. I met a guy from Manhattan last Fall down for a week of vacation and took him on a few local rides. He was amazed at the riding and lack of traffic. He wants to bring his club down for a training camp. :) We do have cars on the roads of course but the volume is seldom a problem. Once the snow melts off the Blue Ridge Parkway, we'll ride up there on the closed road. Riding on the BRP when it's closed to cars is like owning your own National Park. :thumb:
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It's supposed to hit 60F by Friday in Chicago. Time to take the bike off the trainer and sneak in a ride. I'm in London until tomorrow night but can't wait to get back home so I can ride. Hopefully the weekend will be nice.
Cheers, and thanks for the pictures!
J
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Ice Age "The Melt Down". :lol:
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I joined a friend today for a ride out of Asheville on the BRP to Craggy Gardens Visitor Center. It's an 18 mile climb with almost 3500' of ascent to the VC. The last 11.5 miles up had new pavement and was closed to cars. It got cooler as we rode up and the descent was rather cold at first. Perfect day on the bike. I managed 9.5 hours on the road this week which makes for a good start. I have a few pounds to shed.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/69100675
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I did a Gran Fondo NY training ride on Sunday...started out slow, but turned into a fast 40 miles (fast considering the wind). Found out that I've pretty much completely fallen out of conditioning! :oops: Not quite completely, but got dropped with 8 miles left on a ride that was an average training day last September. Am seriously worried about doing Battenkill in April now...
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/69251937
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I was going to come out Sunday but figured the wind + cold air will make it not very enjoyable to ride. How are your toes?
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It was definitely cold....mid 20s and windy. Toes were cold, but not frozen, since I was able to double up on the wool socks and picked up some Sidi Hydro GTX shoes, which are great....
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63 miles, 4245ft ascent...relatively slow pace, but the climbing early on was a killer (eg. sections of 20+% gradients):
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/70210029
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After several rides on the stationary trainer, I finally got out on the real road yesterday for a 41 mile training ride. It was an interesting ride for a number of reasons...
1. Only three riders showed up (not including me).
2. It was brutally cold (in the 20's for most of the ride) with a very strong wind.
3. I was not dressed properly (my base layer shirt was too small and did not cover most of my midsection (damn euro sizes!), my fingers and toes were frozen.
4. I got a flat tire thirty miles into the ride. After being dropped by my group (i told them to go on without me midway through the ride)
5. Riding on a trainer did not prepare me for pushing it hard with some faster riders. My HR was 187 bpm (new record!) a half hour into the ride.
6. Slightly hung over from celebratory drinking with cycling group (most of whom did not show up the next day).
All and all, it was a great time! Much better than the stationary torture training we have to do during the winter months. I need to lose ten pounds quickly!
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Sounds like a great ride! Hey, anything's better than being stuck on the trainer :thumb:
I find the weather is tough to figure out this time of year. It was in the 60's here in Mi. yesterday but the wind is still brutally cold.
I did a 31 miler and had to peel off most of my gear halfway through the ride. I was starting to run out of pockets to put stuff in! :lol:
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I know what you mean! Bought some leg and arm warmers for these kinds of days. I have a 50 miler tomorrow and another 50 on Sunday. Anyone in the Western burbs of Chicago who wants to join us, just PM me.
We start early so it's always cold this time of year. After 9-10:00 am, things start to heat up and around noon, it gets warm and crowded on the roads. That's why we start early, 7:00 am or so during the spring. Tomorrow is an 8:00 start and I hope at least 5 guys show up. Lots of guys haven't shown up because it's too cold (or was) or they complain about being out of shape. Hasn't stopped me!
Good luck!
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Back-to-back 50 milers this time of the year, impressive! I'm trying to get some miles in before my first race (and only, until CX season) of the year on the 26th. I usually hit the dirt roads out in the country where traffic isn't much of a concern.
I've often thought about getting some leg and arm warmers. Somehow I just can't get myself to spend the money they want for them when I can buy a new pair a bibs for what seems like not that much more! One of these days I'll just suck it up and do it.
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Baumer, you should join Performance Cycle's club. It costs $25 or so and you get 10% rebate on all purchases and they email you with special sales. I picked up some decent LG sleeves and leg warmers for free because I cashed in points from previous purchases. Was going to get the Gore brand because they are much nicer but didn't want to spend the $$$.
Leggings and arm warmers are very versitile and work well in Chicago weather. You can peel them off or roll them up if it gets too warm and they keep you pretty warm at the start of a cold morning ride.
Also, Performance Ultra II bibs are my favorite low cost bibs and are awesome for long rides. They are always on sale and with a coupon and 10% rebate, you can get them for a little over $50. For that money, these made in USA, bibs are awesome. The chamois (sp?) is very dense and Italian made and the material is high tech and Swiss made. I forget the brand but it's the same company that makes chamois for Assos, Rapha and lots of high end companies.
Thanks for your kind words but I don't think my rides this weekend will be impressive. I'm still getting in shape and losing the winter pounds I packed on. Either way, I plan to finish both rides no matter how long it takes.
Cheers,
J
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While not a great ride, it was my first of the season outside, and only have a handful on the trainer in the last 2 months....
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/73404353
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While not a great ride, it was my first of the season outside, and only have a handful on the trainer in the last 2 months....
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/73404353
Congrats on getting out and riding! Nothing wrong with your time and, besides, who cares. You are the guy out there riding is bike. Cool stuff.
Have you thought about getting the attachment for your Garmin with HR and cadence? I find it very useful and enjoy checking my performance in these areas. Powertap is on the way (got a used one fromo a neighbor)!
Cheers,
J
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I actually have both, didnt bother to throw the HR monitor on, not sure if I really want to know what it was :o
Late last fall put a new crank on( Sram RED) and havent put the sensor back on. In the past I have had all kinds of problems with getting it to work
Have you thought about getting the attachment for your Garmin with HR and cadence? I find it very useful and enjoy checking my performance in these areas. Powertap is on the way (got a used one fromo a neighbor)!
Cheers,
J
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Any of you guys make the switch from Shimano to Sram? I'm running 105 on my bike now and was thinking about upgrading to Sram Force. I tried a bike with Sram shifters and it seemed a little odd to me.
I'm sure it's just a learning curve getting used to it, but I'm looking for some opinions from others before I take the leap. I don't know if going up to Ultegra is a big enough performance upgrade for the price. As much as I'd love to have Dura-Ace I don't see that happening in the near future!
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I went from a mixture of Shimano 105 and Ultegra to full SRAM Red. I liked the Shimano and really like the SRAM Red much more. It shifts much mire crisply, weighs next to nothing and looks cool. I have tested all of the Shimano line including the new Dura Ace and would take SRAM Red or Force over anything from Shimano (except DI2 which I like a lot).
Even though I prefer SRAM, Shimano is still great and I would not advise swapping unless you get a crazy good deal or a lot of excess money laying around. Even 105 shifts and brakes well. If your stuff breaks and you want to replace it, check out SRAM rival or even apex. They both shift great (very close to force) and are very inexpensive. Apex is a steal and shifts surprisingly good.
Save your money for good wheels and tires and a Garmin edge. That will give you more enjoyment than a better groupset. Just my opinion.
Cheers
J
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As with Jack, I am a Sram convet. Though I also have Campy on another bike.
It will take you no more than 10-15 minutes to get used to.
Unless it was dirt cheap, I would not spend the money to upgrade to Ultegra. Just not enough difference in performance vs. 105.
Probably the same can be said about Force too.
Each may save you 1/2 lb, but then again I have never been a real weight weenie. A full water bottle weighs about 1 lb, then again I have more than enough of them around my mid-section from this past winter of neglect.
Save the money for a new ride or possible better wheels.
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Stay with what you have until you break it or wear it out, then do it as needed if you REALLY WANT. About 5yrs ago I got back into riding after being off the bike for 15yrs. Everything had changed as click shift(shim 600SIS) was brand new. A buddy who owned a shop told me the 105 was better than Dura Ace of back then :o 105 is the break point between Lo Fi and High Fi :lol: I have a mix of that and Ultegra on my Felt and love it, only reason I put a new SRAM Crank on was I trashed the bottom bracket and it was cheaper to buy the crank set than a good new (square drive) BB :roll:
Like I tell my buddy who raced Leadville last year and is in again this year when I loose the spare tire, then I might worry about the weight of the bike :lol:
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On the road biking for me:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=44440)
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Pete
Looks like way way to many bright and reflective surfaces for your tastes :lol:
On the road biking for me:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=44440)
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Nice weekend here. Rode 72 miles with 6K' of climbing on Sat. in near 80º temps (actually overheated a bit on the last 5 mile climb) and then 40 miles today with 4500' of steep climbing. The first hill today of 4.4 miles and 1850' wore on my tired legs. My week totals were 12.5 hours, 162 miles and 16.5K' of climbing. I hope I'm starting to build a base because I'm not very fast. lol
Rode up to over 6000' this week in my summer kit! Closed road too!
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_3688new.jpg)
Between climbs in the valley on Sat's ride.
(http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p37/apadyk/IMG_3694new.jpg)
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BikeWNC,
Let's see, 162 miles with 16.5K' of climbing at approx. 4.6 min./mile, yeah that's pretty slow! :lol: That's a heck of a weekend! It sure would be nice to get some altitude around my neck of the woods.
Jackman, and others, I'll probably wait until things start to go south before swapping out components so I have some time to think about what to go with. My road bike is my cyclocross bike so I need things to be durable as well.
I have been thinking about replacing my pig of a stock wheelset with something better. I have a couple of sets in mind but would like to hear suggestions before I tell what they are.
Thanks,
Doug
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Bike WNC, you are my hero! That's an impressive amount of climbing this early in the season. I only knocked out 42 miles on Saturday and some trainer work yesterday because it rained in Chicago.
I really struggled on Saturday but at least I made it (can't say the same for a friend of mine who had to call for a ride after mile 30!). My HR was hitting high 170's and into the 180's for much of the ride. I took it easy for the last 5 miles or so because I was out of water and beat. Early season is difficult but it's great to be out on the roads again, getting back in riding shape.
Lastly, it's still cold in Chicago and I rode this weekend without my Castelli wind blocker shirt...and paid the price. I figured a set of bibs, moisture wicking shirt, jersey, polar-tech shirt (cheepo), and wind-breaker jacket would be enough. After my ride, my skin on my chest and stomach was as red as a lobster. Anyone who rides in high wind, cold weather, might want to look at the Castelli under-shirt. They are very expensive (imo) but work amazingly well. I only have one but may have to pick up another! They run small so buy two sizes larger than you normally wear. My Italian "L" fits like an American extra SMALL. Next one will be an XL. If anyone knows of a cheaper alternative, please advise!
http://apparel.beanworthy.com/Castelli-SG0.6-Wind-Shirt-Short-Sleeve/A/B0022NS92E.htm
Cheers,
J
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That lots of hill climbing. Typical of NC mountains. :thumb:
Wheels? I like the Zipp 101 aero wheelset. However, you can spend more for the nice aero carbon wheelset. They do help cheat the wind.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Wheelset/IMG_9883.jpg)
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I lust after those Zipp 101's as well as the Dura-Ace C24's. I guess I should have let you know my price point. I'm looking at a set between $600.00-800.00.
What do you all think of the Mavic Ksyrium Elite's?
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Those Zipps are very cool, and I lust after them.
Baumer - if you are looking for new wheels, I would suggest the new wider 23mm rims. Those Zipp 101's (I believe) are 23 mm but if they are outside your budget, you may want to check out other wheels made with 23mm rims. These are available from HED (very nice), Kinlin and some of the other wheel companies. You can do a search for the rational behind the wider profile but they are they are very popular for a number of reasons. They are more aero because your 23mm tire sits flush against the side of the rim, like a tubular (rims typically more narrow than the tire and the gap this causes increases wind resistance. No joke), also they have lower rolling resistance and people who have them say they corner better than similar narrow rims.
My neighbor just built a set of HED rims and he loves them. They are Powertap with DT Swiss front hubs and he is building a similar set with the new Zipp 404 rims next. I'm buying his old set of Powertap Neuvation wheels. Nothing fancy but I'm getting a good deal.
You asked for a low-cost recommendation and here you go. I'd get a set of handmade wheels using HED or Velocity 23mm wide rims, Sapim CX-Ray spokes (or DT Swiss), brass nipples, and the new White Industries hubs, front and rear. I think the White hubs are called H3's. I know a local builder (mechanical engineer by day) who builds wheels for cheaper than I can buy the parts for and is well regarded among racing circles (including Cyclocross which he races) within your price range, probably on the lower end of your range for the wheels I described above.
I believe Zipp uses Sapim spokes (spelling?) and they are highly regarded among wheel builders as are DT Swiss. White Industries is also very highly regarded and their new hubs are sweet. They are made in USA and very lightweight. Here is the info for the wheelbuilder I mentioned. His name is Rob and he is in Elgin IL. I vouch for his reputation and his skill as a builder.
http://www.psimet.com/
His carbon fiber clincher wheels start at $799 and are very well made. I would take a pair of handmade wheels with White hubs and Sapim spokes over those Ksyrium Elite's but Mavic wheels are nice also. Handlaced wheels can be made to your specifications and riding conditions. You can go lightweight (as long as you are lightweight) or extra-stout if you ride rough roads and are heavy. Rob will ask you questions and recommend a wheel that meets your needs. He is not a salesman and will not try to sell you something you don't need.
Good luck,
J
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There are a lot of nice wheels out there. I'm old school, so I prefer tubulars. Not been on a set of clinchers I like better. Especially when it comes to the carbon wheels.
Knock on wood, I've had better luck flat wise with tubbies too. The 1/2 lb weight savings can't hurt too. Other opinions may vary.
WNC, couldn't quite make out yours in the picture? How do you like the S-Works?
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There are a lot of nice wheels out there. I'm old school, so I prefer tubulars. Not been on a set of clinchers I like better. Especially when it comes to the carbon wheels.
Knock on wood, I've had better luck flat wise with tubbies too. The 1/2 lb weight savings can't hurt too. Other opinions may vary.
WNC, couldn't quite make out yours in the picture? How do you like the S-Works?
My wheels? The front wheel is a DA 7850 24CL and the rear wheel is a DT Swiss PT wheel. The Powertap wheel is very heavy at 1200g but I like the data. I can replace it with the DA wheel if I want to save a pound.
I like the Roubaix Sworks. It's an easy handling bike, though the Tarmac is a better climber. But I'm sure it's not the frame slowing me down. I'd like to try the Roubaix SL3 frame to feel the difference from my SL2 but I'd rather not know, it's cheaper that way. lol
Lots of climbing this past week. I probably overreached some but the weather was so nice I just had to keep getting out on the bike. Hopefully it will start some much needed weight loss. It was a long cold winter here too.
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Jeff, someday I'd like to try toos but there is too much glass on the roads I travel and the thought of changing a flat o. A tubular wheel scares me. I can knock out a change on a clincher in a couple minutes. Have you tried Conty Gp4000 tires? They are soft riding and relatively durable. Lots of cuts in mine but nothing major.
Have you been riding a lot this year?
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Hey Jack,
Unfortunately is has been a bleak winter for me. A lot of work, which I guess is a good thing, but very little exercise and a half way decent tire around my mid-section because of.
Actually I've been fortunate to have less flat issues with tubulars than clinchers. And while I would not take a downhill corner at 45 mph on a un-glued tire, with reasonable care you can make it safely back home without the least bit of worry. Offer still stands, I'll send you some wheels to try out for a while.
Shameless plug, anyone looking for a nice crank, drop me a pm. NIB; Zipp 300, Campy Record, Campy Centaur(carbon)
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I have a question regarding upgrading wheels on my road bike. For about the same money, would you upgrade only the front wheel of a higher grade or upgrade both front and back of a lower grade wheel set?
I am looking at Shimano 6700 (set) and 7850 (front only) and am contemplating on spending only $300-400.
My bike came with Shimano R500. I have no complaints. It's durable and spins nice. But, I keep reading about how heavy and slow these wheels are. I have no experience with higher end wheels, so not sure what bang for the buck return I will be getting or which configuration will yield the higher return.
I am riding about 120 miles a week and headwind is probably the most difficult thing to deal with in my area. My logic is that the front wheel cuts through headwinds, so upgrading the front with a higher grade might yield better performance? I've read the 7850 is very aerodynamic.
I find the wheels at these two links.
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=25969 (http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=25969)
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=40568 (http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=40568)
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The old wheel dilema. Checking the spec on the Shimano, the 23mm rim height is not aero. I would go at least 30mm rim height at the minimum at the front and rear. It may look silly if you only have one aero wheel in the front vs the rear. It will definitely work without problem.
I would wait until you can afford to get both wheelset or go for a custom wheelset. Go custom.
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The old wheel dilema. Checking the spec on the Shimano, the 23mm rim height is not aero. I would go at least 30mm rim height at the minimum at the front and rear. It may look silly if you only have one aero wheel in the front vs the rear. It will definitely work without problem.
I would wait until you can afford to get both wheelset or go for a custom wheelset. Go custom.
Yup not going with an aero wheel set per se just something better than my current ones that is supposedly heavy, slow and probably a drag in the wind. The wheel will be used for everyday road training so durability is important. Definitely don't want high maintenance "flying saucer" wheels at my current skill level.
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I have a pair of the Dura Ace wheels. They're very nice.
I upgraded to a pair of HED Ardennes SL.
The Dura Ace wheel set is light, durable and in 10k+ miles I only had to true them a few times very minimally. They're perfect training wheels.
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I have a pair of the Dura Ace wheels. They're very nice.
I upgraded to a pair of HED Ardennes SL.
The Dura Ace wheel set is light, durable and in 10k+ miles I only had to true them a few times very minimally. They're perfect training wheels.
Thanks for the feedback on the Dura Ace. If I weren't trying to limit funds spent on my bike, I'd most likely get a set of the 7850s. Or, I can just get the front wheels now and get the rear one later. As I am typing this, this rationale sounds dumb. It is more coming from a self imposed montlhy spending budget and my other rationale that I might get 80% improvement of less rolling resistance and aero improvement by only buying the front wheel. Don't know whether the rear wheel has diminishing returns?
I did google HED Adrennes SL and found a comparison between the your current and former wheel sets:
http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=228401 (http://forums.roadbikereview.com/showthread.php?t=228401)
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Wheel set upgrades are the best bang for your buck you can get. I highly recommend going for a nice set. But I don't know if I would go for two different wheels on a bike. Different wheels tend to feel different and ride differently. You might end up with some strange results.
The RBR thread is pretty much my experience too. I bought the HEDs not because they were lighter or more aero - they aren't much better in either case - but I like the way the C2 rim width rides. I also wanted to build a wheel set for a Powertap I had.
I hardly ever ride the DA wheels now.
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Wheel set upgrades are the best bang for your buck you can get. I highly recommend going for a nice set. But I don't know if I would go for two different wheels on a bike. Different wheels tend to feel different and ride differently. You might end up with some strange results.
The RBR thread is pretty much my experience too. I bought the HEDs not because they were lighter or more aero - they aren't much better in either case - but I like the way the C2 rim width rides. I also wanted to build a wheel set for a Powertap I had.
I hardly ever ride the DA wheels now.
Thanks for your reply again.
Would you say your ride comfort level when riding on DA wheels was pretty smooth, but HED wheels are just more comfortable hence allow you to ride farther? Just wondering because I don't feel any discomfort when riding on Shimano wheels so comfort wasn't high on my priorities. Or, at least, I was not aware of the importance of a more comfortable wheel.
I think I will go to a LBS that stocks HED either today or tomorrow and figure out whether HED is right for me and, if so, which one. Definitely would like to find out that I can get away with the lower end model.
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Thanks for your reply again.
Would you say your ride comfort level when riding on DA wheels was pretty smooth, but HED wheels are just more comfortable hence allow you to ride farther? Just wondering because I don't feel any discomfort when riding on Shimano wheels so comfort wasn't high on my priorities. Or, at least, I was not aware of the importance of a more comfortable wheel.
I think I will go to a LBS that stocks HED either today or tomorrow and figure out whether HED is right for me and, if so, which one. Definitely would like to find out that I can get away with the lower end model.
I'd test out the wheels before you buy anything (if possible). I'm a big fan of HED rims but your stock Shimano are good enough for training and you probably will not notice a big difference with the new rims (unless you ride some very steep hills). I'd save up and get a pair of wheels when your current wheels start to break down.
If you are concerned about ride comfort, you might want to just look at getting new tires. Continental GP4000's will make a bigger difference on your ride than most people imagine. Also, if you ride some rough roads, you might want to look at 25mm tires. You can run lower pressure and they aren't much heavier than 23's.
There is a wide range of bikes in my cycing group and a wider range of tires and wheels. There are some sweet (and expensive) custom CF Serotta bikes and custom Lynskey titanium bikes, Pinerello, S-works and Colnago bikes with full DA, Record or Red groupsets and high-end CF wheels, and there are guys who ride modest bikes that are 10 years old or more.
One of the fastest riders in the group is a guy in his 50's who rides an old aluminum Giant TCR (I think that 's the model) with an XT MTB rear deraillier, a triple crankset, stock low-end Shimano wheels, and generic tires. His bike probably weighs around 20 lbs. and is probably worth less $$ than the bottle cages on most of the expensive bikes in the group. His chain has seen better days and it looks older than the bike, but he's a demon, especially on hills and he can usually be found at the front of the pack punishing the group by pushing the pace in his low-key, modest style. There is another rider who rides a new Colnago with Zipp 404 tubulars (with expensive Italian tires) and full Campy Record. The bike is very light (probably around 15 lbs), is outfitted with top of the line everything, and he consistently has trouble keeping up with the group.
I'm not saying gear doesn't matter and I'm not saying it's not fun buying cool bike stuff but the first guy is way cooler (IMO). His only focus is on bike fit and comfort. He logs tons of miles and rides several tough rides like the Horribly Hilly 100 and several torture rides around the country. He replaces things when the break but makes no attempt to make his bike lighter or more impressive looking. I usually only see the bike at rest stops anyway because I'm usually at the back of the pack with the Colnago guy (nice looking bike)...
Cheers,
J
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I'd test out the wheels before you buy anything (if possible). I'm a big fan of HED rims but your stock Shimano are good enough for training and you probably will not notice a big difference with the new rims (unless you ride some very steep hills). I'd save up and get a pair of wheels when your current wheels start to break down.
I will find out whether the LBS can let me try out wheels. I know the one I am going to have rental programs but don't know if they have it for specific wheels I would be interested in. There are some pretty steep hills on my usual rides, but it's the head wind that bothers me most. Maybe it's cause I live not too far from the ocean as well as the mountains.
I used to take pride in conquering very steep hills. That was like 10 yrs ago tho, and I stopped biking for quite awhile. In my new locale, there are very strong riders who pass me up like I was standing still. I do think they are riding on money. I don't let that get to me. They are a mental target though. Actually, during my last couple of rides, even a few moms beat me up some hills. :duh:
If you are concerned about ride comfort, you might want to just look at getting new tires. Continental GP4000's will make a bigger difference on your ride than most people imagine. Also, if you ride some rough roads, you might want to look at 25mm tires. You can run lower pressure and they aren't much heavier than 23's.
I am not particularly concerned about ride comfort actually. I mean, my bike is pretty comfortable to me. The Conti 4000s is actually the next tire I plan on getting after the Conti Ultra Sport that came with my bike wears out. The Ultra Sport as well as the Shimano R500 wheel set also has a lot of bad reviews on RBR. But, I like the Ultra Sport a lot. Along with Conti tubes, I think I roll very well, the tubes hold air very well, and I haven't experienced a flat in over 500-600 miles.
One of the fastest riders in the group is a guy in his 50's who rides an old aluminum Giant TCR (I think that 's the model) with an XT MTB rear deraillier, a triple crankset, stock low-end Shimano wheels, and generic tires. His bike probably weighs around 20 lbs. and is probably worth less $$ than the bottle cages on most of the expensive bikes in the group. His chain has seen better days and it looks older than the bike, but he's a demon, especially on hills and he can usually be found at the front of the pack punishing the group by pushing the pace in his low-key, modest style.
My previous bike is a Giant OCR3, purchased in '01, which I think has similar if not same frame as TCR but has lower end Sora components. Compared to my newer Fuji Team, purchased last year, which has full carbon frame, the Giant is rock hard and heavy. I was quite happy with the OCR until I took my wife to shop for her new bike. That's when I found technology changed quite a bit and ended up with a new "carbon" bike for myself. I know what you're talking about that it's the biker not the bike. Heck, on one ride on PCH, a very fit rider on a beach cruiser passed me. :lol:
I'm not saying gear doesn't matter and I'm not saying it's not fun buying cool bike stuff but the first guy is way cooler (IMO). His only focus is on bike fit and comfort. He logs tons of miles and rides several tough rides like the Horribly Hilly 100 and several torture rides around the country. He replaces things when the break but makes no attempt to make his bike lighter or more impressive looking. I usually only see the bike at rest stops anyway because I'm usually at the back of the pack with the Colnago guy (nice looking bike)...
I have to admit the reason why I am here in this forum asking for advice now is most partially because of all the bad reviews I've read about my bike parts and also because I think my body might need a little help from technology to make accomplishing my riding goal a bit easier and faster. Perhaps I am cheating a bit. Nevertheless, perhaps new wheels can make my rides more fun and productive? I will check them out soon then decide. Thanks J.
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Thanks for your reply again.
Would you say your ride comfort level when riding on DA wheels was pretty smooth, but HED wheels are just more comfortable hence allow you to ride farther? Just wondering because I don't feel any discomfort when riding on Shimano wheels so comfort wasn't high on my priorities. Or, at least, I was not aware of the importance of a more comfortable wheel.
I think I will go to a LBS that stocks HED either today or tomorrow and figure out whether HED is right for me and, if so, which one. Definitely would like to find out that I can get away with the lower end model.
Comfort is about the same for both sets. The HED Ardennes wheels have what they call their C2 rim which is wider (23mm) than you'll find on most road wheels. The wider rim allows the tire to have a wider contact patch - more like a tubular in that respect. It really does make a difference in handling.
I also feel comfortable riding a lower psi (95) with the HEDs. It's a bit softer riding than the DAs with 110 or so. We have a lot of chip seal roads here and a fatter tire or lower pressure smooths out the buzz from the crappy road surface. The HED C2 makes the lower psi more reasonable. Running the DAs at 95 feels squirrely
I am sure you can find a shop that will let you demo a pair of new wheels. You 'll get a taste of what a nicer set of wheels offers and you can decide from there. I think you'll be impressed.
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Comfort is about the same for both sets. The HED Ardennes wheels have what they call their C2 rim which is wider (23mm) than you'll find on most road wheels. The wider rim allows the tire to have a wider contact patch - more like a tubular in that respect. It really does make a difference in handling.
I also feel comfortable riding a lower psi (95) with the HEDs. It's a bit softer riding than the DAs with 110 or so. We have a lot of chip seal roads here and a fatter tire or lower pressure smooths out the buzz from the crappy road surface. The HED C2 makes the lower psi more reasonable. Running the DAs at 95 feels squirrely
I am sure you can find a shop that will let you demo a pair of new wheels. You 'll get a taste of what a nicer set of wheels offers and you can decide from there. I think you'll be impressed.
Those HED's sure look cool. My friend has a Powertap set he built (with Sapim spokes) and he loves them. I'm happy because he's selling me his old PT set!
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Well, I did visit a store that claimed to carry HED on their website. But, turns out the store is still "working out the details." Instead, they tried to push Reynolds and Mavic pretty hard. The sales guy did immediately point out the hubs on my R500 are very heavy.
After much contemplation, I am getting for the Shimano 6700 from Chain Reaction Cycles. It's cheap and should get me most of what the higher end wheels offer.
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Those HED's sure look cool. My friend has a Powertap set he built (with Sapim spokes) and he loves them. I'm happy because he's selling me his old PT set!
I love the PT. I have a Garmin Edge 500 to go with it. The combo is great. I would recommend you try the WKO+ software too. Too much info at first but after a while it all makes sense and then you're off to the races! ;-)
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Well, I did visit a store that claimed to carry HED on their website. But, turns out the store is still "working out the details." Instead, they tried to push Reynolds and Mavic pretty hard. The sales guy did immediately point out the hubs on my R500 are very heavy.
After much contemplation, I am getting for the Shimano 6700 from Chain Reaction Cycles. It's cheap and should get me most of what the higher end wheels offer.
I haven't tried the 6700 but they look to be very close to the DA wheels. I'm sure they'll be great. Still, you should find a shop that will let you demo a set of silly wheels like Zipp 404 or the HEDs. Just for grins.
You can usually find wheel demos at cycling events too.
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I haven't tried the 6700 but they look to be very close to the DA wheels. I'm sure they'll be great. Still, you should find a shop that will let you demo a set of silly wheels like Zipp 404 or the HEDs. Just for grins.
You can usually find wheel demos at cycling events too.
Yes, from what I gathered, the 6700 Ultegra seems to be close enough to the 7850 DA as well as the HED Ardennes in areas that matter to me. Thanks for sharing your comments. They gave me lots to think about helping me come to a conclusion.
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Viggen
I am not crazy about getting the absolute lightest components as I could loose many multiples of what ever amount of weight I could take off my bike.
When I need something new because I wore it out like the BB/Crank last year, thats when I get something nice.
Also train with the heavy stuff, and if you race, then put the light stuff on then, you will be faster, just like weight training.
Don't buy upgrades; ride up grades. - Eddy Merckx
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Hi Sandbagger,
I agree that the lightest gear is not necessarily always the best choice. Some extremely lightweight gear could have durability issues or weight limits. However, riding heavier equipment will not improve your fitness or make you faster when you ride lighter equipment (like swinging a leaded bat will make your swing faster when you switch to a light bat). Riding a heavier bike will just mean you will be slower at the same wattage output versus a lighter bike. Training intervals will make you faster and logging lots of miles will improve your endurance, but riding a heavy bike will do nothing but make you slower (although not as much as most people think unless you are riding hills) at the same wattage output. I only learned this recently. A power meter will change the way you view these things.
Riding an more aero bike will be faster than a bike of the exact same weight but the difference will depend on wind conditions and how fast you are going.
Although I like lots of their components, I'm not sure about Shimano wheels. they are durable but I think you can do much better for the money. For around 600 bucks, you could get a nice set of custom wheels with White Industry hubs, Sapim CX-ray spokes, etc. These wheels would be a step up from Dura Ace wheels for half the price.
AB - For some reason Shimano wheels are heavier than they should be for their pricepoint. They are solid but too heavy. For the money, Neuvation wheels are a better value. I have a set and they are very well made and lightweight. I'd get the Neuvations and buy a Garmin Edge, and some Conti GP4000's with the money you save versus those Shimano wheels.
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Hi Sandbagger:
I gained 20lbs the last two years probably thanks to a very busy schedule (knee surgery, mba, marriage, full x job). I've been biking 4-5 days a week for almost a month. I am up to 150 miles/wk this past week. And, I've lost 10lbs thus far while gaining quite a bit of leg muscles while still developing my back and shoulders.
I don't think shaving weight off my bike will help me as I have more weight off my body that I stand to lose. I am mainly looking for a bit less rolling and wind resistance. I like to continue my riding routine while adding on mileage weekly but windy days do sap a lot of energy out of me. My current wheel set just seems like the ideal candidate for an upgrade I deem it to be my bike's weakest link.
I think in most other cases, I wouldn't be upgrading anything. It's just that I would like to achieve my fitness goal quickly and perhaps it's wishful thinking that a new wheel set will help me get there. I had thought that I should train on heavier wheels as a reason not to upgrade as I am still trying to build up strength. But, I think Jackman made a good case against this.
I did swing fungo bats and weighted iron clubs when I played baseball and golf though. Not particularly helped me gain strength but helped me maintain form as I built up intertia to hit "through" the ball.
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Hi Jackman:
I just took a look at Neuvation website. My browser's history tells me I've been here before. But, I don't remember seeing those prices before. They are currently on sale at drastic reductions! A set of their "aero" wheels are only $258 now. Their reviews on RBR is quite good too.
Unfortunately, I've already placed order with Chain Reaction Cycles for a set of the 6700. I guess it's not too late to cancel but think I will just stick with it. I like the looks of the 6700, it allows for tubeless tires, and the price I am paying for the Shimano is only $125 premium over the Neuvation.
After I receive the 6700 wheel set, I am thinking about installing a new Ultegra cassette on it. This way I will have two complete wheel sets with one used for back up. Otherwise, I have to take the 105 cassette off my old wheel to put one the new one. Performance Bike has the Ultegra cassette for $69 now (regularly $99). I hope this extra investment makes sense.
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Hey Viggen,
I think you will be happy with the Shimano wheels and it sounds like you got a great deal on them. I thought you paid $650 for them, which seems to be the going rate. At that price, I think you can do better, if you paid $500 or less, you did very well. The Shimano wheels, like all Shimano gear, are solid and well built. Regarding that cassette, I have a 105 on my bike at the moment and it works fine. My next one might be SRAM or Ultegra but I'm more concerned about the gear ratios than anything else. Shimano cassettes are priced right and they hold up well.
If I don't spring for the high $$$ SRAM Red Powerdome cassette, I may get the new Apex because it has a wide gear ratio and I need some help on hills. My current cassette is a 12-25 and I may switch to an 11-28 for my next one. It would allow me to stay in the big front ring most of the time, which I like. I cross chain more than I should but I don't mind replacing chains once or twice a year...chains are cheap and easy to install.
Cheers,
J
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Thanks for the feedback, Jackman. Yah Chain Reaction seems to have very good prices on bike parts. They seem to sell cheap by doing away the retail packaging etc.. I am paying $385 shipped from UK. I think that's an amazing deal considering retail is $650 as you've mentioned, and that's not including tax and shipping.
I did some research and found that 105 and Ultegra cassettes are pretty much similar except 105 is steel, and Ultegra is aluminum which makes it 20 grams lighter but functionally identical to the 105. Performance Bike has the Ultegra $6 cheaper than the 105 now plus additional 10% off this weekend. I am going to place my order in a few.
The stock 105 cassette on my wheel now is 11-25. I am happy with it. I like staying on the big front ring too and am trying to work on staying on that ring even during the steepest parts of my rides.
Speaking of chains, I had no idea what chains were on my bike. I expected it to be whatever chain that is in the 105 group. Turns out to be a KMC DX10SC. Never heard of it so Googled it. Turns out to be what a lot of people seem to prefer it over the chains that come with SRAM and Dura Ace groups.
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Hey KMC makes awesome chains and lots of people at BF love them. My LBS stocks Shimano and SRAM and I had them put a new one when they tuned it up or I would have gone with KMC.
I'm not a weight weenie and have not tried a hollow pin chain but Ive heard nickle plated chains are more durable because they resist corrosion. I change my chains frequently so they don't have time to corrode.
You got a great deal on those wheels I think. My comments were based on the 650 price. Just make sure they have brass nipples.
On a side note, I rode in the worst wind I can recall yesterday. Only made it 30 miles but it was painful. My group did 70 and averaged over 17.7 mph for the ride. They are officially too fast for me. I'm officially on my Carmichael Power Training regiment, starting today. Need to get faster...
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Hey Jack,
Unfortunately is has been a bleak winter for me. A lot of work, which I guess is a good thing, but very little exercise and a half way decent tire around my mid-section because of.
Actually I've been fortunate to have less flat issues with tubulars than clinchers. And while I would not take a downhill corner at 45 mph on a un-glued tire, with reasonable care you can make it safely back home without the least bit of worry. Offer still stands, I'll send you some wheels to try out for a while.
Shameless plug, anyone looking for a nice crank, drop me a pm. NIB; Zipp 300, Campy Record, Campy Centaur(carbon)
Hi Jeff - have you done any riding lately? Also what size is that crankset and can you ease send a picture and details of the gear you have for sale along with pricing? I will check with my group to see if I can help sell your stuff.
Take care!
J
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Hey! Are any of you actually riding your bicycles? Aside from jackman's painful 30-miler over the weekend, it seems that all you've been doing is buying new equipment and chatting about it. What kind of a hobby is this where you seem to spend more time worrying about the equipment than actually using it? :lol:
Seriously, I'm just a hack occasional rider, but I really enjoy reading the riding reports, especially the ones with pictures, cycle computer readouts, and exotic locales (e.g., the Tour de Bronx).
My bike is an absolutely stock Marin Lucas Valley that I bought 6 or 7 years ago. I used it to commute for a while, but now it gets used only for weekend rides on bike paths in Northern Virginia where I live. Here's a picture from Marin's website:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=45173)
Dave
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It is good that you are riding your bike Dave.
I had been riding my bicycles over the winter. If there is snow on the road, I ride my mountain bike instead. I have ridden were my water bottle froze on me.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/2%20Garmin%20Connect/ManhattanonCervelo1st.jpg)
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Hi Dave, welcome to the bike thread! Your bike looks perfect for the type of riding you do (bike paths, commuting, etc.). I have a similar bike that I hope to ride with my wife this summer (she does not share my enthusiasm...).
Road cycling with a group of fast riders is a completely different game (than casual riding or commuting). Riding hills or into 30 mph winds or riding long distances with a big group of riders at relatively fast speeds requires you to pay attention to details that do not exist in casual MUP riding. When you ride for 4-6 hours you have to pay attention to nutrition and hydration, bike fit, bike handling and safety, etc. It's also good to moniter your cadence and HR, and several guys in my group have power meters to measure and track their wattage output. These things are rarely an issue with a casual rider on a multi use path, but on long road rides with a large group, any onoe of these thngs can ruin your day or cause an injury.
For the record, I also rode on my trainer for an hour yesterday and on Friday evening. Riding on a trainer sucks and is 100x worse than my worst time on an actual bike, outside in the elements.
A large part of cycling is talking about gear. It's just the way it goes and I think this thread has featured more people actually riding than most of the discussions at Bicycleforums.net. I love that site but most of the threads in the "41" are about minute details of cycling (clothing, gear, computers, etc.) unrelated to actually riding. I've only been cycling for a short time (relative to the other people I know) but my primary interest is comfort and fit, and of course, getting out on the road and riding my bike.
I admit that my bike is nothing to look at but it's really comfortable and my fit is pretty good. I can ride for 6 or 7 hours at a time (as I did several times last year) without any pain or discomfort (if you don't count my knee injury which occured when I had a bad fit). For now, I'm only focusing on getting faster which means working hard on the bike (lots of hours and intervals) and losing weight. I think I gained a few pounds on my vacation last week and need to get back to work.
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Thanks for the welcome, Levi and Jackman. I hope it was obvious that I was just teasing about the gear discussions. After all, I'm a member in good standing of AudioCircle, where most of the discussion is about the gear rather than the music!
Dave
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Guys dressed in spandex, talking about which shoes they should wear and which cream they should put on their butts...how can you not make fun! :thumb:
Cheers, and welcome to the bike thread. Please keep us posted on your rides so I can feel guilty about not getting out enough.
J
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Guys let's not forget about the "shaving legs" discussion. ;)
Hey Jack, hope all is well. I'll send you an email.
Extremely disappointed in myself this past year. Did not ride much last summer. Winter went to hell with work and other stuff. Which I guess is better than being unemployed as many are. But my beer belly is a harsh reality of complacity.
Welcome to the crowd Dave.
Spent many a day/year in an earlier life racing. Now I'm just a big "poser" with thankfully a somewhat disposable income to enjoy both my stereo and bike fixes.
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On a side note, I rode in the worst wind I can recall yesterday. Only made it 30 miles but it was painful. My group did 70 and averaged over 17.7 mph for the ride. They are officially too fast for me. I'm officially on my Carmichael Power Training regiment, starting today. Need to get faster...
Would you "cheat" by getting an aerobar? I just ordered a Profile Design T2+ DL. Never used an aerobar before so very curious to try one out.
I am going for a 60 mile ride tomorrow. It would be my farthest weather permitting.
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Would you "cheat" by getting an aerobar? I just ordered a Profile Design T2+ DL. Never used an aerobar before so very curious to try one out.
I am going for a 60 mile ride tomorrow. It would be my farthest weather permitting.
Aerobars are not cheating. Some group rides will discourage aerobars because of safety concerns. On a traditional road bike, when using aerobars, it's often difficult to access brakes and you are more likely to crash if you have to access brakes quickly. We generally ride on country roads and there are very few fast stops so it's less of an issue. If you use them, just be careful around other riders and don't use them in a pack unless you are the lead rider. Some guys who use them in my group do a lot of solo riding during the week and aero bars are very helpful in this part of the country because we have some intense wind this time of year and during the winter.
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Just got my new Powertap Pro+! I should say, just installed it on my bike. Haven't done any real riding (other than around the block) but it's pretty cool and works well with my Garmin Edge 500. The wheels are in perfect shape and they use DT Swiss Aerolite spokes, Kinlin rims, and the front hub is a really nice Neuvation. They are lighter than the Bontrager Race wheels that came with my bike!
I'm no weight weenie but after installing the wheels we put the bike on the Park digital scale and it weighed less than 17.5 lbs. Not bad considering the PT wheels are heavy and I have a very heavy fork with alloy steerer, and heavy handlebars. I could take almost a pound off the fork and be under 16 lbs with a new fork and race wheels. Not going to do it because it would not be worth the expense.
The Powertap wheels look great and I look forward to my new training program. Will keep you posted.
J
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Aerobars are not cheating. Some group rides will discourage aerobars because of safety concerns. On a traditional road bike, when using aerobars, it's often difficult to access brakes and you are more likely to crash if you have to access brakes quickly. We generally ride on country roads and there are very few fast stops so it's less of an issue. If you use them, just be careful around other riders and don't use them in a pack unless you are the lead rider. Some guys who use them in my group do a lot of solo riding during the week and aero bars are very helpful in this part of the country because we have some intense wind this time of year and during the winter.
Duly noted. Personally, I will only use it on straighter stretches when no one is around me. At least until after I gain full confidence in using them.
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Duly noted. Personally, I will only use it on straighter stretches when no one is around me. At least until after I gain full confidence in using them.
If you ride alone, aerobars are proabably a great idea. Riding with them in a group could take some getting used to but I have seen lots of guys do it. They used to be allowed in pro racing but were outlawed (by UOC) years back. They do work, and help you deal with wind. They also help you get into another position on the bike which would be useful on long rides. Someday I'd like to try them!
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Hey Phil,
How's the Tour of Battenkill?
I recently registered for Tour of the Battenkill...complete insanity... :duh:
http://www.tourofthebattenkill.com/
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I have a on-road shorts question. Do you guys all wear plum smugglers? Integral or seperate chamois?
I'd really like to find some shorts that aren't quite plum smugglers but less baggy than MTB shorts (what I wear now) for riding on the road. Any ideas?
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I dont wear shorts :o
Bibs, and once you do, you wont ever go back to wearing shorts. I have never seen or used seprate chamois, doesnt sound like a good idea either. Stay away from the thick gell(jello) ones as they a bad news.
as far as regular shorts with chamois, have you seen Pearl Izumi Rev Shorts or something like that?
I have a on-road shorts question. Do you guys all wear plum smugglers? Integral or seperate chamois?
I'd really like to find some shorts that aren't quite plum smugglers but less baggy than MTB shorts (what I wear now) for riding on the road. Any ideas?
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I dont wear shorts :o
Bibs, and once you do, you wont ever go back to wearing shorts.
+1
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Any favorites among bibshorts? Although I still can't see me wearing plum smugglers
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What do you mean by "plum smugglers"? 8)
IMO you'll need to try on bibs before you commit. I suppose this is true for shorts too but with bibs you have sizing differences between manufacturers that can ruin your bib "experience".
I'm 6' and weigh 155 and have trouble with certain/most bibs having too short straps. So to get the shorts right I need to go with a M size but often this means the straps are too short and I end up with the wedgy thing happening. L sizes means good strap length but too large in the shorts. So I have had to modify a few pairs' straps to get the length I need.
Shorts work for me in the warmer months. I can overheat in bibs.
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aka Lycra...looks like your smuggling plums.
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You mean nut-hugger shorts? Hee, hee...
I second the suggestion for bibs. I like the Performance Ultra II bibs. They have a waffle weave and the material is not as snug or revealing as some shorts. If you ride with a group, most serious riders wear form fitting clothing.
I like bibs because the waistband stays in place and you do t have to co stately adjust them like shorts. Also, the Ultra II bibs have a nice comforfable chamois. Oh, they are also relatively inexpensive. Remember to wear your jersey outside your bibs dint tuck it in!
You get used to the tight fit after a while. It's just a bit strange at first.
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Plum smugglers; made me chuckle.
I'm a bit of the opposite, like shorts much better than bibs. Guess that is why they say to each their own.
Dating myself a bit, but back in the days Nike used to make some great shorts. They had some mild padding in them, but were not mountain bike long. Kind of like a tennis short with a chamois.
Will see what I can find for you, but thought Izumi, Descente, or one of those manufactures still made something like that.
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Jeff, you are probably skinny and don't need bibs! Bibs are great for guys with a bit of a gut. They keep your pants up really well. If you are tall or have a large torso, they may not fit properly. If not, they are awesome! Whenever I wear shorts I am reminded of how much I love bibs!
Here is my Garmin data from today. My power numbers are not impressive but getting better. It was a recovery ride from yesterday's 41 mile ride. Actually faster today but there was no wind so I was not working as hard. Also, yesterday was a solo ride (just me and another guy) and I did not have a chance to draft. Drafted quite a bit today and was able to keep up with the group much better than yesterday.
Happy Easter everyone!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/81194778
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Back at ya Jack. And Hapy Easter to the rest too.
Yes I must admit when I tried bibs years ago there was not a tire around my mid section. Now that there is a pretty substantial one due to my lack of dedication this past winter(year), maybe I should give them a try again.
Stay safe out there.
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I like Bibs shorts and always wear them specially on long rides.
Zipp 303 or 404 ? Upgrade bug just can't take my mind of those wheelsets. :thumb:
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Levi,
Guess I would say some of it may based on the intent, but of those two, got to go with the 303's. While I think there are others out there that are on par(maybe even better), the 303's are a "great" all-around wheel.
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Thanks. Its a tough decision as I cannot buy both.
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Lots of guys in my cycling group have 404's and one guy has 303's. I don't think you can go wrong with either. The guy with the 303's (coincidentally) just damaged his rim. He has a very nice Wilier Cento Uno with full SRAM Red. I didn't know he had 303's until I found out they were busted. Always thought they were 404's. Zipp is a great company and they make all of their stuff in Indianapolis, IN (even though they are now owned by SRAM).
I'd also suggest looking at ENVE (formerly EDGE) wheels. Their stuff (bars, wheels, forks, etc) is beautiful and I hope to have one of their forks one of these days. Their 1.0 weighs 250g and is very cool looking. Their stuff is made in Utau.
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Good info there Jack. Thanks!
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Good info there Jack. Thanks!
Thanks, I forgot to mention the new Firecrest Zipp design (wider, different shape) is supposed to be more durable, more aero, stiffer and better handling. My friend rides on HED aluminum rims with the new wide design and swears by them. The wider tire profile is also supposed to give you lower rollig resistance and better ride quality.
Zipp makes awesome wheels and I was not trying to imply the 303 is less durable than the 404, this is not the case. I believe Paris Roubaix was won on 303's last year. Good CF rims are expensive but I understant why people who can afford them use them.
I fall into the group of people who can't afford them at the moment. Also, I'm not fast enough to really benefit anyway so it's a non-factor. Someday...
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If you really want one, you will try to afford it. My 30mm Zipp 101 is not aero enough but is great when there are gusty winds. The 88/188 hubs made me fell in love with Zipp wheels. It reminds me of my Industry Nine hubs.
To each his own. What's next...powermeter! :thumb:
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If you really want one, you will try to afford it. My 30mm Zipp 101 is not aero enough but is great when there are gusty winds. The 88/188 hubs made me fell in love with Zipp wheels. It reminds me of my Industry Nine hubs.
I should have said, I have too many other priorities at the moment (wife wants to re-do some rooms in our house and I'm trying to limit my major purchases until I have a good idea as to how much this is going to cost me!). Also, I could not get a Powertap wheelset and CF wheels so I chose the PT set. The PT really helps shed light on your fitness level and how hard you are working (improving or not) on a ride by providing a true objective measure - watts. Until I get stronger and more fit, I don't deserve better gear.
There are lots of CF wheels in my group but the guys with Zipps seem to be the happiest. I'm surprised there aren't more closeouts on the older non-Firecrest versions. Those are still expensive!
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Until I get stronger and more fit, I don't deserve better gear.
Amen brother! LOL
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Amen brother! LOL
To be honest, my current gear is way better than I deserve or need but I like it! There is a guy in my group who does not show up very often. He has a sweet Colnago bike with Campy Super Record and Zipp tubular 404's. Every time we pull up to another group, someone compliments his Colnago (even though there are a couple nicer bikes in the group). It probably weighs about 15 lbs and is beautiful to observe (and I imagine, to ride).
He is a really nice guy (won't mention his name) but he is also the slowest and fattest guy in the group. Slower and fatter than me (yeah!). He usually starts a ride, lingers at the back of the pack, and makes an excuse to quit at the ten mile mark (or so) and turns around. On a modest bike, that sort of thing is a little humiliating to the person involved, but on a Colnago with top shelf gruppo and wheels, it's worse. More noticeable. I never want to be the fat guy with the fancy bike at the back of the pack. If things don't change soon, I may need to invest in an electric motor or some EPO if I ever want a fancy bike!
Cheers,
J
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...I may need to invest in an electric motor or some EPO if I ever want a fancy bike!
Look out Cancellara! :thumb:
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Look out Cancellara! :thumb:
Mama mia!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nd13ARuvVE
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I love the whole notion of "Mechanical Doping"!!! He just happened to be the strongest rider with the best game plan that day.
Or should I say two days, since he did it again already a week later earlier.
But you just gotta' ask yourself, "What was he doing with his right hand on the hood for that split second?" Doesn't look like he shifted.
Maybe just a cramp. :thumb:
edited for correct race schedule.
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It's fun to joke but I don't think he cheated. If he did, he must have motors in his TT bike also because that's where he usually tears it up.
I, on the other hand, would love to shock my friends with some battery powered speed assistance. I'd slap one of those motors into a big cruiser bike and torment the guys in the fast group.
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Levi,
Being in Indy, if you want me to do any Zipp recon just let me know.
Think they make very nice wheels, the newer ones better than the old. Again, intent may dictate choice, but the 303 is a very nice wheel. A good compromise.
Ad Jack mentioned, I would probably buy Enve first though. Then again, I would buy Easton and Reynolds too. While maybe not a better wheel, prices are much better.
I've been on a set up Reynolds MidV for a few years now and they have been stellar.
With all due respect, most of us are on more than we will ever be worth. I'll be the first to admit to being a "poser" in today's world. Now take me back 20+ years, and I was a very strong rider.
Then again, there is no reason on earth why I need a Dodd pre, a Electrocompaniet amp and Cd player, or Selah or Chesky speakers. Guess you could call me a "poser" for stereo stuff too.
The end result though, is I am fortunate enough to afford both. I enjoy both. They both give me some freedom. And I am a happier person for it.
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Well said. WE are all fortunate and blessed even to just talking about audio and nice gears.
There are rumors that Zipp is coming up with a 303 firecrest carbon clincher like the 404. Hmmm...
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I just read this and hope you guys find the humor and inspiration that I found in it.
My Proudest Moment: Trailer Park Cyclist Vs Cervelo Guy
04.22.2011 | 6:25 am
A Note from Fatty: Today’s guest post comes from Tim Joe Comstock. It’s an awesome story, beautifully told.
I live in a trailer park in Florida. Not a nice retirement-villa-on-wheels trailer park where the elderly neighbors swap recipes and check in on each other and play shuffleboard in the fading twilight of a rosy pink sunset kind of trailer park.
No.
The trailer park I live in is a really crappy side-of-the-highway trailer park where the dentally challenged neighbors swap drugs and have fist-fights in the shimmering glow of the pale moonlight and the occasional blue strobe lights of a police cruiser perks up the evening’s entertainment.
Not that I see much of this action, not really, because while the evening’s misadventures go on outside my window I am safe inside staring at a computer screen bearing images of sweet and shiny new bicycles that I can’t afford. And reading cycling blogs by people who live seemingly charmed lives of high-paying office jobs that leave them plenty of energy and money to spend their off time riding around wearing expensive clothing that I also can’t afford while they ride the above-mentioned out-of-reach bicycles.
But while I may sound bitter or disillusioned, I am not. Because I ride a bicycle too. The same roads my “superior” colleagues pedal on are open to me, also. And listen, man, I ride them. After thirty years of hard labor in the construction industry, after two marriages and houses and kids and lawyers, topped off with this never-ending “recession” and all the loss that results from loss: I ride my bike. A lot.
One day a few months ago at a convenience store I was admiring a pair of touring bikes parked outside. A Raleigh Sojourn and a Trek 520. A mild-mannered fellow in full kit, a guy about my own graying age, came out and I complimented him on his bike. We were discussing the worth of disc brakes vs. cantilevers when his wife joined us, glancing nervously at my baggy shorts, sleeveless t-shirt, scruffy beard and long, bandana-bound hair. And the beer in my hand.
I was halfway through my Sunday Century and I always stop at the same place for a beer; sometimes three, depending on the day, how I feel, and my financial situation. As she walked up her husband was offering me a ride on his Sojourn. I was just throwing a leg over when she said “Hold it.” She gave her husband a look I was all too familiar with (two marriages) and said “How do you know he isn’t some homeless guy?”
“Well, honey, he knows all about bikes, and he seems perfectly all right…” All of this while I sat there, bemused (to say the least) and a flood of emotions went coursing through my already fairly beat down soul. But one of my saving graces at this point in my misspent old age is I don’t get offended nearly as much as I did when I was still an upright citizen.
But I got off the bike.
To her credit, she caught what she had done and tried to lighten the moment by giving me a strained smile and saying, “Well, you’re either a really smart homeless person or…” and then she realized that there was no happy ending to that sentence either and so I just laughed and said “Have fun on your ride, guys,” and went back into the store for another beer.
Today, several months later, I was into mile 30 on my Saturday ride, just cruising along on my 1981 Schwinn LeTour, loving the day and day-dreaming on the empty country road that I like to use for my day-dreaming ride when a guy comes out of nowhere and passes me. I say “Hey!” like I always do, but he just goes on by on his carbon Cervelo.
I am accustomed to being passed by better-disciplined and sleeker riders wearing helmets and lycra and riding carbon, but this time…well, he shot me a disdainful glance as he went by, something else I am accustomed to, but he could at least have said “Hello.”
And then I heard the voice of Brian Becker, ex tri-athlete and a touring rider with more miles under his wheels than most of us will see in a lifetime. “NOBODY drops me without a fight.” So I feathered forward on my right down tube friction shifter and I knocked on the door of a place inside of myself that I haven’t been to in a long time. “It’s not the bike, it’s the engine…come on, boy….”
I’m sitting here in my crappy trailer park by the highway, watching the sunset, sipping a beer and gazing fondly at my old Schwinn leaning against the wall. I’m savoring the the moment when the guy finally caught up with me back in town, where I was waiting at a red light.
“Sheesh”, he said, “I kept looking back, and you were still there. I couldn’t believe it…then…”
Yeah, man.
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Levi,
While somewhat dating myself, I would suggest you try tubulars. While carbon clinchers are nice, I do not feel you get their full advantage until going the sewup route(that term should certainly date me).
Not sure what experience you have with tubulars, but I have an extra set of wheels I'd be more than willing to send you for a trial period.
Know they are pro's and con's to each, but personally I've had better luck with sewups than any clinchers I have ridden over the years.
Let alone you are a light enough!
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Hi Jeff,
Sewups are great! They are very addictive. It is like borrowing speed. :) I will take your offer but it is too bad you live far away. One don't need to learn how to mount sewups specially if you have a friend who can do it for you. :lol: Unfortunately, I have to decline the very nice offer. I pulled a trigger on a new Zipp 404 firecrest carbon clincher. :thumb:
Many thanks Jeff!
--Levi
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No problem Levi. Been trying to get Jack on some tubulars for a while now too. ;)
Looking forward to your ride report. Please keep us posted. Oh btw, it didn't happen without pictures! Will lokk forward to those too.
Safe travels.
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Thanks! Will take pictures as soon as I got them. ETA hopefully by Friday.
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My new Zipp 404 carbon wheelset arrived.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Wheelset/ab15ea58.jpg)
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Levi, my man, you don't mess around! Those are sweet wheels and I can't wait for your comments. Also, how about a picture of those on your bike?
Did you get the pads from Zipp or are you using some kind of cork brake pads? Those appear to have a carbon brake track (unless my eyes are going) and I believe they use CF specific brakes. Right?
Good luck!
J
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Thanks Jack! For me, life is simply too short. I will be enjoying my toys while I still can. :thumb:
The Zipp 404 comes with cork brake pads, Zipp rim tape, valve extensions and skewers. Braking surface is carbon. I am glad I bought the 404 CC because it has the lightweight convenience of the clincher + the aero advantage of carbon toroidal shape. Many thanks for the input.
I mounted a pair of Conti 4000s tires with regular .75mm butyl tubes. However, I like the suppleness of the Michelin Aircomp latex tubes and the Pro Race3 tires. Reminds me of tubular tires. :thumb:
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/aa2af9c2.jpg)
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That bike looks sick!
I was wondering about tire recommendations. I typically ride roads here in JC that are very pot-hole ridden. My current tires are slicks and very thin. I was thinking of getting something a bit more supple and durable. I just don't know jack about tires.
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Wow, nice ride! I love the way my bike rides and fits me but your bike is a Ferrari to my (hmmmm, let's see) Camry. Okay, maybe my bike is a Camry with upgraded wheels (even less cool than standard Camry!). I've seen similar Cervelo's on the road and they look cool. The riders are usually really fit, triathelon types. Not chubby dorks like me...
I have not tried those tires but I still love the Conti GP4000's. I run them at recommended psi's for my weight and the tire width (23 mm in my case, and 95 psi front and 100 psi rear) and they are like a magic carpet. Maybe the latex tubes have something to do with the better ride on the Race3's you are experiencing.
There seems to be a running debate about Race3's versus GP4000's. Both tires cost about the same. Race 3's are supposed to ride better but GP's (which also ride very well) are supposed to be more durable and cut resistant and handle better in wet conditions. GP's are also now available in 25mm size which I'm tempted to try next time. This would be a bad option for you because those Firecrest wheels are designed to work with 23mm tires. Wider width would eliminate some of the aero advantaget of the wide rim.
I borrowed a friend's wheels with Vittoria Open Corsa Evo's (320 tpi's) and they rode beautifully but they also did not last him very long because we ride on some relatively rough roads (chip and seal, glass chips, limestone chips, etc.). Harder wearing tires last a long time (Gatorskins) but they are no fun to ride. In my experience, the GP4K's have a great ride and are pretty durable (Chili compound, kevlar bead). My Bontragers that came with the bike were brutal. They held up like they were made of iron and rode like it also.
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Latex tubes surely helped with suppleness with the expense of pumping my tires every two days. Hunting my local bike shop for Latex tubes. Stay tuned!
If someone buys my Esoteric Universal CD/DVD-A/SACD player that I no longer use, I can experiment more on tires. :lol:
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Latex tubes surely helped with suppleness with the expense of pumping my tires every two days. Hunting my local bike shop for Latex tubes. Stay tuned!
If someone buys my Esoteric Universal CD/DVD-A/SACD player that I no longer use, I can experiment more on tires. :lol:
That's a lot of pumping (that's what she said...). :green:
I wish you lived closer so I could try that bike out. I love that beefy BB area and those pencil thin stays. When I get my next bike, the RS is on my list (I think that's the model). With the 404's and the DA grouppo, that bike has to weigh around 15lbs.
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Levi that is one sweet ride! I love the massive BB on the R3. Can you say stiff!
One of these days I'm gonna' get off my 'cross bike and get a real road bike.
I love the Willier Izoard and the BMC SL01. But I'll probably get something like a C'dale CAAD 10 since a complete bike with DA isn't much more than one of those others frames!
Hey Jackman, I'm going to be buying a pair of those GP4000's in 25mm soon also. I'm not a huge guy, 6' 3" 175lbs, but the little extra width makes a huge difference to me. Especially on the crummy roads around here.
I ran Maxxis Detonators at that size and, although that tire is like riding on steel belts, the size is a winner.
Doug
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Thanks for the complements guys.
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Thanks for the complements guys.
I love that bike but you broke several bikeforums.net fules with the picture.
1. Picture should be in front of white garage door :nono: (must be a rule because 99% of posters seem to follow it).
2. Picture should be of drive side. :nono:
3. Chain on the large front ring and middle rear ring (you did well on this I think).
4. No reflectors or saddle bag or dork disk. :thumb: (again, you did well).
5. Flip stem (no need to flip yours it appears to be nice and low).
6. Cranks at 3-9:00 position (nice).
That's all I can remember. Even though you flaunted the rules, you did well!
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Levi,
I always enjoy seeing your pics and data from your rides. Especially the ones through NYC.
It reminds me of when I lived in Chgo. and commuted to my job in the Loop. 16 mi. of pure bliss dodging taxi's and pedestrians, getting pulled for a few city blocks on the back of a semi or pick-up truck, and having my wife and co-workers thinking I was absolutely insane riding in the snow. Ahhhhhh the memories.
Keep up the good work man!!!
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Nice bike Levi! I would love to have a set of Zipps for one of my bikes but I think they are just a bit expensive for me. I guess I could sell a few bikes I'm not using and fund a pair. I bet they ride great!
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Screw the wheels, how many cd's do you have there man!
Wheels look very nice of the frame Leve. Please post your thoughts after getting some mileage on them
Josh - like with many other things in life, you can spend a little, or a lot. I'd suggest getting some tires like Rubino's, Krylion's, Gatorskins, etc. A step down for those Jack and Levi mention. Maybe 80-85% the performance, at 65-70% the cost.
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As usual, I agree with Jeff. Gatorskins (and other durable training tires)aren't much cheaper than GP4k's but they last much longer than race tires and are more flat resistant.
I usually scout deals on GP's and stock up. I think I paid about thirty five bucks a pop from PBK the last tine they were on sale. A pair of racing tires for about what you pay for a carton of smokes in Chicago. I cant get myself to buy at regular srp, 65 bucks each...
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Awesome ride today, best one of the year. No hills on the route but the wind was absolutely brutal (except for the times it was at my back). I ditched my HR monitor and my speed improved. On the country roads we ride, there is no corn (yet!) and no trees to block the wind. At one point, it must have been 30mph as we rode into it. There was one stretch (you can see it on the attached) where we rode in the high 20's and low 30's for a long stretch in a paceline with the wind at our back. Paid the price later but it was worth it. What a day!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/82734667
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Sounds like a good ride Jack. Still not really got my first one of the year in yet.
Sometimes(many for me), it is better to ditch the hr monitor, computer, and Gamin stuff, and just ride. Too many times the focus is on "my cadence is low, I'm not going fast enough, I've only ridden how many miles, etc".
Nothing better than just getting some good exercise, taking in the scenery, the wind in your hair(except it sounds like there was too much of it today), and just the freedom and piece/peace of mind.
Safe travels!
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Got my 3rd ride of the year in last night
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/83724558
Didnt set any land speed records, but actually feel real good this morning
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got my third real ride of the year in. didn't take the garmin, as its not really setup at the moment. i did about ten to twelve miles on the henry hudson drive. took a few wrong turns and ended up doing a couple extra big steep hills. boy do i feel it today!
there was some kind of race going on. hundreds of other bikers out on the drive. i didn't want to feel like a whimp, so i pushed myself on all the climbs only stopping twice at the tops of the hills to let my heart rate drop down and then off again. i still felt like a fat wuss.
i ended up making a good pace with a couple of racers just ahead of me. i followed them for the 4 or 5 miles on the way back. i rode for about an hour 15 to an hour thirty. no race pace here.
that place is hillier than jersey city and i felt my lowest gear was still a bit too tall on the steepest/longest hills while ok on the others. my bike is setup as a double.
i need to get out a lot more and quit partying as much as i do!
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Josh, no shame in riding slower than you would like, as long as you pushed youself sufficiently hard!
Don't know how things were on the East Coast but it was crazy windy in the cornfields west of Chicago where I ride. Did a solo ride on Sunday (40+ miles) and fought a very bad wind on the way home. No corn and nothing to break that stiff breeze.
Rode too cautiously on the way home and should have been faster. It was good to get the legs pumping. The Garmin data heartrate on the attached is bogus. I no longer wear a HR monitor and it was picking up HR of some riders I encountered on the road.
Josh, just keep pushing yourself and you will no longer feel sore after a couple more weeks. I'd suggest trying to get out at least 2-3 times per week. Also, riding with a group is 100x more fun and will get you into shape faster. Just don't pick a group thtat is too fast because that might be frustrating. A nice beginner or intermediate group would be perfect.
My group is getting serious about training and I am having trouble keeping up! Got droppped on Sunday...my solo ride was not intentional. :oops:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/84281636
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Josh, I also picked up a new cassette, 11-28, and hills are much easier. They are on sale at Performance and they install for free if you buy it at the store. Even though I have a SRAM set, my Shimano cassette works perfectly. You might need a new chain if your current one is too short.
The tall 28 tooth rear cog is great for hills and the 11 on the little cog is great for going down hills fast. My old cassette was a 12-25 and the difference is noticeable. Highly recommended.
http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/Product_10052_10551_1076715_-1___
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i definitely felt like i got my second wind half way through the ride. i put the course into mapmyride.com and it says the hills at the end were larger than the ones in the middle but it sure didn't feel that way. there was one in the middle i thought was going to kill me.
i am not sure at what point i turned around according to the map, so it was anywhere between 10 and 14 miles that i did but around 900ft of elevation gain.
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Josh, keep riding. Btw, you witnessed GFNY (Gran Fondo New York). :)
got my third real ride of the year in. didn't take the garmin, as its not really setup at the moment. i did about ten to twelve miles on the henry hudson drive. took a few wrong turns and ended up doing a couple extra big steep hills. boy do i feel it today!
there was some kind of race going on. hundreds of other bikers out on the drive. i didn't want to feel like a whimp, so i pushed myself on all the climbs only stopping twice at the tops of the hills to let my heart rate drop down and then off again. i still felt like a fat wuss.
i ended up making a good pace with a couple of racers just ahead of me. i followed them for the 4 or 5 miles on the way back. i rode for about an hour 15 to an hour thirty. no race pace here.
that place is hillier than jersey city and i felt my lowest gear was still a bit too tall on the steepest/longest hills while ok on the others. my bike is setup as a double.
i need to get out a lot more and quit partying as much as i do!
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Here are some good training tips:
http://www.cptips.com/climb.htm
I'm doing interval training (on a hill) after work tonight. Interval training is the fastest way to make those hills easier. Losing weight is also very important but my most difficult challenge. :duh:
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i guess i could do the hill at the end of my block over and over again. its fairly steep, about 4 blocks long and somewhere close to 200ft climb. its just a little dangerous going down as it is a one way in the up direction.
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i guess i could do the hill at the end of my block over and over again. its fairly steep, about 4 blocks long and somewhere close to 200ft climb. its just a little dangerous going down as it is a one way in the up direction.
Make sure you don't take unnecessary risks with safety. When you are tired (like after lots of hill intervals) you are more likely to do something stupid and crash or not be able to react quickly to avoid a car (because your legs are like overcooked spaghetti). A friend crashed a couple weeks ago and busted a brand new Zipp 303 as a result. The good news, Zipp gave him a spanking new wheel, no questions asked. He is the biggest Zipp fan on the planet but athat's a different story.
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Want to feel slow? Check out this guy's Garmin data from Tour Down Under. I can't imagine this kind of power and speed.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/65459271
Here is another from the Garmin team. I don't know who this guy is but 290 watts for almost 5 hours or even 4.5 hours is more than I can imagine. This is humbling...
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/82329233
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Josh,
No point in being disappointed in yourself. You are a helluva a lot farther than those still sitting on their couch.
Imo, it is about the freedom, the experience, the wind n your hair, the exercise, the making your life better, and the enjoyment.
After seeing today's crash at the Giro, please be safe out there. Can leave an lasting imagine, so some may not want to hunt down what I just mentioned.
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Make sure you don't take unnecessary risks with safety. When you are tired (like after lots of hill intervals) you are more likely to do something stupid and crash or not be able to react quickly to avoid a car (because your legs are like overcooked spaghetti). A friend crashed a couple weeks ago and busted a brand new Zipp 303 as a result. The good news, Zipp gave him a spanking new wheel, no questions asked. He is the biggest Zipp fan on the planet but athat's a different story.
I know that from skiing. That is another reason why I like biking. Makes you stronger for ski season!
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Josh, keep riding. Btw, you witnessed GFNY (Gran Fondo New York). :)
Yep, that was them. Black with green lettering.
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Did you happem to see this "insane ride" ? Link.... (http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/bike_race.html)
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Wow! the start of that looked like fun, but some of those hits near the end were nuts. if you miss the results are pretty horrific. i'd still wouldn't mind trying the course, but at much more sane speeds.
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I'd love to see someone like Travis Pastrana do that course. He'd throw in a couple double backflips or something crazy. Very cool stuff. I'm sure Josh was reminded of his BMX days!
Cheers,
J
PS - Jeff, that was a tragic crash at the Giro. Fatalities are rare in cycling but they remind us how this could all end so quickly.
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Hey, anyone riding this weekend? It's rainy in Chicago and I hope to get a ride in tomorrow. Will hit the trainer tonight to get a 1 hour spin in but it's torture. Nothing compares to a fast ride outside in the wind! :thumb:
Cheers,
J
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Headed out the door for a ride now, since it looks like next friday will be the next dry day :duh: That has been the story this season, either 40F or rain, or both
Hey, anyone riding this weekend? It's rainy in Chicago and I hope to get a ride in tomorrow. Will hit the trainer tonight to get a 1 hour spin in but it's torture. Nothing compares to a fast ride outside in the wind! :thumb:
Cheers,
J
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I've used in ear monitors for a number of years on ipods while on planes, long family road trips, etc. where the sound isolation is appreciated.
I'm now looking for some new 'phones that could also be used sensibly and safely for sports like road cycling (and snow skiing) where you need to semi frequently interact with others and/or be aware of adjacent sounds (cars approaching). Ideally they would have an integral iphone controller built in for mute & basic controls.
I imagine this would necessitate the ear bud style with maybe an ear loop to hold in place? I've used the freebie apple ear buds but have not been impressed with the s.q. and they typically don't stay in place with much activity .
Any experienced roadie recommendations out there? My budget is around up to $100~$150 range.
Thanks
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Hey Ken,
I would not recommend wearing headphones while riding, unless you ride on a MUP or somewhere where there are no cars. If you ride on the street, it's way too dangerous. I have a friend who insists on riding with phones but he only wears one. If you only wear one, sound quality is probably not a consideration.
Sorry if I'm too cautious but I hate to see someone get hurt or worse. Good luck. :thumb:
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Thanks jackman. Wearing one is an idea I may check out.
I am still very interested in recommendations for suitable ear buds to consider. I'm planning to ride a 80 mile course this Saturday and will need some tunes to get me through.
Thx
Kenreau
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I would not recommend riding in the road with any kind of headphones, I do on my harley, but I cant hear anyone else anyway :lol:
I have a few friends that ride a lot, wont ride on the street, but will wear headphones in the woods :duh:
In the past I have used my cell phone to play music as I have a little bag that goes on the toptube right at the stem, has mesh on top so it works real good for that.
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I don't see issues with wearing phones in the woods, but its nuts to wear them on the road imo.
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great place for earphones, I have ordered 2x and they are great value compared to best buy etc
http://www.head-direct.com/
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I don't see issues with wearing phones in the woods, but its nuts to wear them on the road imo.
On the road, I'm always riding the white line regardless of what I can hear. I'm not following the concerns mentioned here about safety. At the speeds most cars travel, what benefit is there from hearing them marginally better (using earbuds - not sound isolating in ear monitors)? If they are going to run in to you at driving at speed, chances are there is not much you can do anyway, right? You've only got a split second to consider a potential conflict. Granted, I've only been road cycling for two years now, but am I missing something?
Fwiw, here is a link to a Top Earbuds buyers guide - http://www.head-fi.org/forum/thread/371235/earbud-buyer-s-guide-feat-tm5-ok1-pk1-ath-cm700-ok2-k319-ok3-pk3-pk2
Thanks
Kenreau
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Hey, I admit that I've riden with headphones on a solo ride but it's technically illegal in IL and you might want to check your state laws. Cash-strapped states are cracking down on lots of things these days that used to go unchecked. Several cyclists I know have been busted for road violations (going through stop sign in rural area where there is NO traffic, etc.).
I would never ride in a group with phones because communication is important and my group would not allow it. Also, when you cross intersections it is good to hear ambulance sirens and other cyclists passing you. I've been riding without phones for so long, I'm used to the sound of wind in my ears. It's also good to compose your thoughts on a long solo ride with no sound, other than the wind and the sound of your bicycle.
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Hey, I admit that I've riden with headphones on a solo ride but it's technically illegal in IL and you might want to check your state laws. Cash-strapped states are cracking down on lots of things these days that used to go unchecked. Several cyclists I know have been busted for road violations (going through stop sign in rural area where there is NO traffic, etc.).
I would never ride in a group with phones because communication is important and my group would not allow it. Also, when you cross intersections it is good to hear ambulance sirens and other cyclists passing you. I've been riding without phones for so long, I'm used to the sound of wind in my ears. It's also good to compose your thoughts on a long solo ride with no sound, other than the wind and the sound of your bicycle.
Thanks, jackman, got your viewpoint. I just want to restate, I am not intending to use sound isolating in-ear phones, but just the ear buds that allow you to hear other outside sounds (companions, cars, firetrucks, etc.) along with the tunes.
Hey - why doesn't that cute kid on horse back in your profile picture have a safety helmet on? :wink:
Kenreau
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This is an interesting discussion... Lets face it, road biking is a somewhat dangerous hobby. In fact I'd say that the risk is the one thing I dislike about it the most. Certainly there are some reasonable steps we can take to help reduce the risks, but to a certain extent, we need a little luck on our side too. I wish motorists realized that bicycles are out there and they need to keep an eye out and not eff around. It drives me crazy when people think its cute to drive past you 6in off your left elbow.
The question is, what are reasonable and effective precautions? I certainly always ride w/ my helmet on. I generally wear a bright colored jersey for what that's worth. And for years I rode w/o anything in my ears.
However, I came to realize that I really can't hear much of anything short of a constant cacophony of wind noise. Its frankly kind of annoying but it comes w/ the hobby. I'd love it if I could just enjoy the sounds of nature, but you just can't. And as for hearing cars approaching from behind, maybe when they are really close.
So a couple years ago I thought I might try and figure out a way I could maybe listen to a podcast or something while I rode. Mind you, my rides are usually pretty early in the AM and I live in a fairly rural area. There was no way I was going to put a pair of earbuds in my ears. I really wanted to find a balance between barely being able to hear the podcast/etc. while still pretty easily hearing cars and the world around me. What I found works pretty well, is to stick a Bluetooth earpiece in my right ear streaming content from my blackberry. Hifi is not a priority here. Frankly most BT earpieces aren't all that loud anyway. If its supper windy outside, or I'm going down a fast downhill, I can't usually hear it too well, but that's no biggie. If I approach a busy intersection I can easily pause it or pop it out of my ear for a bit (I would not want to deal w/ cords).
I only ever ride w/ the earpiece on solo rides, which is a majority of my riding. If I'm w/ a partner or group, I never use the earpiece. Also, if I'm off road on my mountain bike I don't use it (usually on a MB I'm going slower and I can actually hear "nature" which I like).
Respecting the opinions of the other posters, to be honest I don't think I am in any greater danger w/ this little thing in my ear than w/o it. I think a more tangible aid to my safety and awareness to what's around me would be a rear view mirror of some sort. I need to do a little research as I'd like to figure out a good way to see when a car is approaching me from behind. Relying on my ears (earpiece or not) really doesn't cut it.
Sorry for the long post! :duh:
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I think that is pretty ok, myself. I ride in the city and constantly have people and cars around me so I need to be able to hear that. If i rode on country roads, it'd be somewhat different.
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I think we all have to decide how much risk we are willing to take whenever we go for a ride. I see people riding without helmets on bikes and motorcycles all the time. I have friends who never wear seatbelts, etc. Ultimately, we are responsible for our own safety.
If you are riding with a group, it's another matter because your safety affects the people around you (potentially at least). I like the people of this site, and the cyclists on this board and hope I didn't come across as "preachy" with my recommendation. I don't think I can ride safely with phones on so I don't wear them when I ride. I'd hate to see anyone get hurt because of the distractions headphones could cause. We are all adults here and if you want to ride with phones, more power to you. I'd probably take one out when you are around traffic.
A friend installed some cool (geeky) mirrors on his bars (in the holes where the plugs go) and Im thinking about doing the same. They are from Italy and are made of real glass, very high qualitiy and useful to see those cars coming from behind. Some people feel riding without mirrors is more dangerous than riding with phones. Hmmmmm.
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A friend installed some cool (geeky) mirrors on his bars (in the holes where the plugs go) and Im thinking about doing the same. They are from Italy and are made of real glass, very high qualitiy and useful to see those cars coming from behind. Some people feel riding without mirrors is more dangerous than riding with phones. Hmmmmm.
Yeah, funny thing about the mirror idea is I used to have one on my bike several bikes ago and I swore I'd never ride w/o one as I found it very handy to be able to get a good view of what was coming up behind me. That was a long time ago (probably 25yrs) and I wonder if I was even riding a helmet back then! LOL I'm embarrassed to say it, but I think a bit of vanity might have kept me from putting one on my bike (or helmet) to this point.
On a completely different topic, I got "pressured" from some co-workers to do a 5k run this weekend. Being a northerner like jackman I'm just starting to get into a bit of form on the bike. So I went out last night for a short 3.5mi run (w/ my bluetooth earpiece in! 8) ) just to make sure I can run that far. I gotta say, the scenery sure changes slow when you're running! My bike doesn't have to worry about getting replaced by my running shoes!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/86605072 (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/86605072) (yeah, i know... I'm slow! LOL)
One of the things I never liked about running (compared to biking) is that something always seems to be hurting or uncomfortable. My feet, my ankles, my knees, something or another... Rarely is it ever just pure thigh muscles burning from workin' them hard like on a bike.
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Jon, they say you should incorporate running into your training because the impact is good for your bones. If you only do non-impact activities (running, swimming, etc.) you can lose bone density. This is common among cyclists who only ride the bike. Too much of a good thing is rarely a good thing!
I'm trying to get some work done so I can sneak out for a ride today. It's been a long day and I need to get out!
Cheers,
J
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Jon, they say you should incorporate running into your training because the impact is good for your bones. If you only do non-impact activities (running, swimming, etc.) you can lose bone density. This is common among cyclists who only ride the bike. Too much of a good thing is rarely a good thing!
I'm trying to get some work done so I can sneak out for a ride today. It's been a long day and I need to get out!
Cheers,
J
That's an interesting point jackman. I hadn't heard that before. Makes sense tho...
We have pretty nice weather here (Milwaukee area) today so I suspect you do too. Have a good ride! (I'm going to the dentist!)
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Tonight's ride. Feeling good and getting faster. My average speed should have been over 20 mph but I didn't turn off the computer when we did a slow couple miles around the neighborhood to address some minor mechanical problems I was having with my FD/dropped chain. Also, more importantly, my average watts were affected but I was still close to 200 so I"m not complaining. 200 watt average is my goal.
Garmin: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/86728250
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Garmin data from today's ride. I feel great and have lots of gas in the tank for tomorrow's ride. Wind today was brutal but it was a cross wind for some of the ride home. Great workout and I think I'm getting stronger. Finished with the faster guys today but I think they were taking it easy at the end. :green:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/87016868
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Those are a couple nice rides there jackman! Its always nice when the winter form starts turning to summer form. Earlier the better. I was hoping to squeeze in a ride today, but w/ this weather its not looking good. :cry: Probably a good day to give my bike a little love. I bought some new tires that I need to get put on. Probably due for a good chain cleaning too.
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Jon, they say you should incorporate running into your training because the impact is good for your bones. If you only do non-impact activities (running, swimming, etc.) you can lose bone density. This is common among cyclists who only ride the bike. Too much of a good thing is rarely a good thing!
I'm trying to get some work done so I can sneak out for a ride today. It's been a long day and I need to get out!
Cheers,
J
If it's weight bearing it's good for your bones. So work in 20 minutes of stand up pedaling during your ride and your bones will love you for it...a hill here a hill there...
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Garmin data from today's ride. Average speed was the same as yesterdays (slightly faster) and distance was exactly the same. Avg. watts were WAY lower than yesterday because I drafted with a group. This is why a Powertap is important or at least why a power meter is important. Today's ride was very easy and I hardly worked but without power data, it looks equal to yesterday's ride on paper. Not slacking, it was basically a recovery ride. :thumb:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/87260521
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Certainly a nice day for a ride jackman! I had too much junk to take care of around the house to get out. Eventually, I got some time, but the weather was turning so I worked on my bike a bit. Swapped out the tires for some new ones I bought and gave the drivetrain a good cleaning. Here are some pics of my "rig":
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=46951)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=46952)
Its a classic, but it works!
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Hey, nothing like a nice clean chain! My chain is pretty dan but my bike is dirty from all of the dead worms and slop caked on my downtube. I rode with some very fast guys today and got dropped on the way home. They were much too fast for me to keep up. It's good to gauge how far I have to go before I can hang with the big boys.
Cheers
J
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1. Picture should be in front of white garage door :nono: (must be a rule because 99% of posters seem to follow it).
2. Picture should be of drive side. :nono:
3. Chain on the large front ring and middle rear ring (you did well on this I think).
4. No reflectors or saddle bag or dork disk. :thumb: (again, you did well).
5. Flip stem (no need to flip yours it appears to be nice and low).
6. Cranks at 3-9:00 position (nice).
That's all I can remember. Even though you flaunted the rules, you did well!
Crap! I forgot about the rules! :duh:
Let's see:
1. My garage door is green. I never had a chance w/ that one.
2. Check!
3. Half credit?
4. Check!
5. I know my stem is "up" not "down", but it helps w/ my reach.
6. and check!
Not too bad :lol:
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Has anyone here experienced long shipping delay from ProBikeKit? I have been waiting for my purchased items for 3 weeks now. Not to mention, every time I buy from UK Citibank charges me international fees which I don't mind. It is the waiting that kills me.
On the other hand, ordering from Wiggle and Chainreaction Cycles to name a few, only took less than a week. The difference is both uses Parcel Force which also has tracking.
Keep riding those bikes!
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It fun to see some Garmin files posted here. I got out over the weekend for a local organized metric on Sat. and then a hill climb from town on Sun. Around the 1:35 mark on the Sunday ride the legs gave out and Elvis left the building. I limped up to the top of the climb from there.
It's interesting on the elevation data, my friend has an 800 also and while we show the same start, max and min elevations, his Garmin has 200' more total gain. You would think they would be more in line with each other than that.
Here are the files for fun if interested.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/87141201
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/87656578
Andy
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Has anyone here experienced long shipping delay from ProBikeKit? I have been waiting for my purchased items for 3 weeks now. Not to mention, every time I buy from UK Citibank charges me international fees which I don't mind. It is the waiting that kills me.
On the other hand, ordering from Wiggle and Chainreaction Cycles to name a few, only took less than a week. The difference is both uses Parcel Force which also has tracking.
Keep riding this bikes!
Yikes! I have bought lots of stuff from PBK and it always ships quickly. I mainly buy tires and tubes and some sweet Sidi shoes along with some base layers Craft and small goods. So far my longest wait is two weeks. I'd email them and complain. They are usually pretty good.
Good luck
J
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Andy,
Thanks for posting. Always interesting to see the Gamin stuff. May need to look into one myself someday.
Levi,
PBK seems to be hit or miss on the shipping. Some get some in a week or so, others have waited like you for weeks. May have missed it, but what did you order?
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It fun to see some Garmin files posted here. I got out over the weekend for a local organized metric on Sat. and then a hill climb from town on Sun. Around the 1:35 mark on the Sunday ride the legs gave out and Elvis left the building. I limped up to the top of the climb from there.
It's interesting on the elevation data, my friend has an 800 also and while we show the same start, max and min elevations, his Garmin has 200' more total gain. You would think they would be more in line with each other than that.
Here are the files for fun if interested.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/87141201
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/87656578
Andy
That's a lot if climbing. I can't fault your legs got going out, that's some rough stuff. I struggle with the winds but don't have any hills like that to contend with. Lucky me, chubby dudes and hills do not go well together!
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Hi Jeff, Something must have changed. Because I used to get my orders in a week. Now, I always had to wait over 3 weeks.
I ordered several bike Bibs and Jerseys.
Levi,
PBK seems to be hit or miss on the shipping. Some get some in a week or so, others have waited like you for weeks. May have missed it, but what did you order?
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Andy,
Thanks for posting. Always interesting to see the Gamin stuff. May need to look into one myself someday.
I have a Garmin Forerunner 305. I've had it for about 4 years now. A few newer models (including some bike specific units) have come out since. Good part is they still make the 305 and the price is much lower than the newer units.
http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Forerunner-Receiver-Heart-Monitor/dp/B000CSWCQA/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top (http://www.amazon.com/Garmin-Forerunner-Receiver-Heart-Monitor/dp/B000CSWCQA/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top)
Nice way to dip your toe into GPS for training w/o spending $400. But the $400 units ARE slick!
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I have the Edge 305, the bike version and its great, If you dont need the map while on the bike, the Edge 500 can be had for cheap and is great.
Here is my ride from Sat, actually felt good for most of it but the head wind on the way back was killer http://connect.garmin.com/activity/87071241
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We did a group ride last Sunday with my Mountain Bike racing buddies. We stopped at my buddies house for a quick BBQ and away we go!
80 + miles when it was all said and done. Now that was fun!
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/jontot8/Orange%20Machine%20Group%20ride%20052211/IMG_1843.jpg)
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/jontot8/Orange%20Machine%20Group%20ride%20052211/IMG_1847.jpg)
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/jontot8/Orange%20Machine%20Group%20ride%20052211/IMG_1855.jpg)
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/jontot8/Orange%20Machine%20Group%20ride%20052211/IMG_1856.jpg)
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/jontot8/Orange%20Machine%20Group%20ride%20052211/IMG_1858.jpg)
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/jontot8/Orange%20Machine%20Group%20ride%20052211/IMG_1859.jpg)
(http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll127/jontot8/Orange%20Machine%20Group%20ride%20052211/IMG_1860.jpg)
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I was also going to add that you can get an Edge 500 relatively cheap if you shop around. I like mine and it was very easy to set up on the bike. Since I ride mostly on roads near my home, I don't need directions. If you explore areas you are not familiar with, I would imagine directional GPS would be a useful feature.
The 500 is compact, easy to read and easy to operate. Just plug it into Garmin Connect after your rides and hit "Download New Info" button. It stores all of your data and the system makes it easy to compare past rides. I think I paid $250 for the whole thing with HR monitor and Cadence. It's usually $50 cheaper if you don't get the HR/Cadence. You can use any Ant+ HR or wireless cadence monitor with the 500 if you already have them.
I stopped using my HR because I was tired of seeing those high numbers and it was messing with my speed. Oh, and I misplaced the monitor and did not want to buy a new one. Found it but haven't used it for a long time. The HR data on my Garmin Connect page is bogus, probably picked up from other riders in range of the unit.
Cheers
PS - Levi, very fun looking group! Sounds like you had a blast. Also, some cool looking bikes in the mix. 80 miles is a great ride!
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Jack
If you go into setup you can turn off the HR monitor so you dont record bogus info.
I need to reinstall my cadence sensor and see if I can get it to work right, I have had a hard time getting it to work with any reliability. IF I can get it to work, the next ride it doesnt.
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Help with a bike choice. Big guy 280, love to ride, need assistance with new bike choice. 58 cm, used to ride a Trek 5200, but am worried about a break in the carbon due to weight.. 3-4 rides a week, 20-30 miles
JP
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I would not worry about carbon these days, early frames there was a lot of concern for big riders but they have come a long way.
I started out at 230lbs on a Felt F75 Carbon rear triangle and fork. Not a single problem and I am anything but easy on it.
Help with a bike choice. Big guy 280, love to ride, need assistance with new bike choice. 58 cm, used to ride a Trek 5200, but am worried about a break in the carbon due to weight.. 3-4 rides a week, 20-30 miles
JP
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Being a big guy too, I've had a Cannondale Synapse Carbon 1 58cm for 3 years, no problems at all. I love the feel of it compared to an old steel Centurian Ironman/600 SIS I had for many many years, several thousand miles and rebuilds. Keep an eye on wheels/spokes but other than that pretty much no worries. Good luck!
Tom
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Tom, just looking at a CAAD10 3, those wheels look ok...Mavic Aksium
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I have Mavic Ksyrium's
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Tom, just looking at a CAAD10 3, those wheels look ok...Mavic Aksium
Hi Tom,
Best of luck with the new bike. I don't know your budget or your level of flexibility but will be happy to include a couple bike suggestions. First of all, ride the bike for as long as possible before buying. Also, go to a good shop to make sure you get the proper size and the right kind of bike for your desired riding. A Ferrari is a great car but not a good choice for someone who needs to pick up kids or groceries, or as a main ride for a guy who is 7 feet tall. The right kind of bike and the proper size (and proper fit if you plan to ride long hours or distance). This can mean the difference beween an enjoyable hobby and torture/wasted money.
The CAAD10 (and the former CAAD 9) is an awesome frame and is very popular with racers. For an aluminum frame, the CAAD is supposed to be relatively smooth riding and good handling, and a good value for the $$$. However, it might not be your best choice. For all of the positives, I would not recommend this bike to someone just getting into (or back into) cycling. The geometry is very aggressive (short head-tube, long top tube, etc.) and I believe it has a relatively short wheelbase. Plus, despite all of the positive attributes, it's still aluminum and will still beat you up on long rides. Unless you are looking for a crit bike or something for short rides, I would recommend a carbon fiber bike with relaxed geometry and long(ish) wheelbase.
The CAAD is sexy but I would look at the C-dale Synapse, the Specialized Roubaix, Trek Madone "Performance" fit or one of the many "relaxed" geo bikes. Lynskey makes an affordable Ti model (Sportif) with relaxed geometry. They are designed for comfort, but are stiff where they need to be and fast enough to race if you ever want to go that route. These are not geezer bikes and will fit you well if you are not a racer. Carbon is getting to be very affordable and will easily support your weight. The wheels might be a different story (don't go with low spoke count racing wheels, get something sturdy) but I wouldn't worry about the frame breaking.
I have a CF bike and it is dialed in perfectly. Last weekend, I spent almost 6 hours riding, rode for an hour and a half on Thursday and rode on the trainer earlier today. The ride is like a magic carpet over bumps but is stiff when I mash the pedals. I could never go back to an aluminum bike as my main ride. I may get one as a race bike (Spooky) but not for long distances (century rides or anything +50 miles). Just my opinion.
Good luck!
Jack
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Hi Tom,
Best of luck with the new bike. I don't know your budget or your level of flexibility but will be happy to include a couple bike suggestions. First of all, ride the bike for as long as possible before buying. Also, go to a good shop to make sure you get the proper size and the right kind of bike for your desired riding. A Ferrari is a great car but not a good choice for someone who needs to pick up kids or groceries, or as a main ride for a guy who is 7 feet tall. The right kind of bike and the proper size (and proper fit if you plan to ride long hours or distance). This can mean the difference beween an enjoyable hobby and torture/wasted money.
The CAAD10 (and the former CAAD 9) is an awesome frame and is very popular with racers. For an aluminum frame, the CAAD is supposed to be relatively smooth riding and good handling, and a good value for the $$$. However, it might not be your best choice. For all of the positives, I would not recommend this bike to someone just getting into (or back into) cycling. The geometry is very aggressive (short head-tube, long top tube, etc.) and I believe it has a relatively short wheelbase. Plus, despite all of the positive attributes, it's still aluminum and will still beat you up on long rides. Unless you are looking for a crit bike or something for short rides, I would recommend a carbon fiber bike with relaxed geometry and long(ish) wheelbase.
The CAAD is sexy but I would look at the C-dale Synapse, the Specialized Roubaix, Trek Madone "Performance" fit or one of the many "relaxed" geo bikes. Lynskey makes an affordable Ti model (Sportif) with relaxed geometry. They are designed for comfort, but are stiff where they need to be and fast enough to race if you ever want to go that route. These are not geezer bikes and will fit you well if you are not a racer. Carbon is getting to be very affordable and will easily support your weight. The wheels might be a different story (don't go with low spoke count racing wheels, get something sturdy) but I wouldn't worry about the frame breaking.
I have a CF bike and it is dialed in perfectly. Last weekend, I spent almost 6 hours riding, rode for an hour and a half on Thursday and rode on the trainer earlier today. The ride is like a magic carpet over bumps but is stiff when I mash the pedals. I could never go back to an aluminum bike as my main ride. I may get one as a race bike (Spooky) but not for long distances (century rides or anything +50 miles). Just my opinion.
Good luck!
Jack
I agree completely. When I bought my Synapse Carbon, the more aggressive System Six series was new and very popular at my LBS and was within my budget. Fortunately, the sales guy sized me up and listened carefully to what I wanted to do (ride more comfortably, farther, maybe only slightly faster as a bonus) and set me up on this one. The comfort AND acceleration/speed difference from my old bike was night and day, which I wasn't expecting at all. I really didn't want to just be a poser with shiny new stuff, but my backside appreciates it every time I climb on. After 3+ years I still love the feel of the carbon bike so it was worth every penny to me.
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My next bike will be full carbon!
I started out years ago on a Cannondale (first gen race frame) from the mid 80's. Back in 05 I decided to start riding again after being off the bike for a long long time and wanted a new bike. An old coworker from the bike shop I worked at as a kid had his own shop and told me to at least get carbon fork and seat stays, and also at least 105group.
I was very supprised how well even the rear carbon stays and fork soak up the roads around here without being soft.
A Bike FIT is also very important, and make sure you fit the bike, and the shop does not just put you into a bike they have.
without a budget, hard to make recommendations
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Some good advice here. Fit is "King". Spending $4k on a new bike is a big waste of money of it does not fit well and you are not comfortable on it. Hence do not ride it much.
Recommendations would be somewhat contingent upon budget. Which is what?
Mavic makes some pretty strong wheels, as do some others, but I would also look at those with 32(36 even better) spokes per rim.
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Here is my Garmin info from Sunday. It was a great solo ride but it rained very hard for a brief period and I had to take it easy. Finally feeling like I'm getting my strength in my legs and lungs back. It's about time!
Cheers!
Jack
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/88757213
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I drove up to Blacksburg, Va over the weekend to meet a friend and ride the Wilderness Ride on Sat. and the Mountains of Misery Century on Sun. We chose to do the 38 mile option on the Wilderness Ride and took it pretty easy as a warmup but worked a couple leg openers. Generally though it was a relaxing ride.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/88533970
On Sunday we did the 104 mile Mountains of Misery Century. It's a beautiful ride and not too bad until the last 5 miles. The last 3 miles of the ride end in a 12% average climb to the finish. There is a mile in there at near 16% average. With over 100 miles in my legs by then it was very tough. I had a good day, though I did slow down to let my friend who was cramping try to keep up. I ended up waiting for him at a couple rest stops for well over an hour. So my time wasn't great but he made it to the top and I got more than my money's worth on the ride.
One note, 3 riders compared our elevation gain on our Garmin units and they were all very different. One 705 claimed over 9700', my 800 said just over 9000' and my friend's 800 was right between the two. How can they be so different? The ride organization claims about 9800' so I would tend to believe the higher or at least the middle elevation gain. Who knows?
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/88902331
Andy
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Andy you are king of the hill!
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Andy you are king of the hill!
LOL, Levi, IDK about king but all I have are hills or mountains to ride so I do the best I can. Thanks though!
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Not much hills here in NYC. The worst part is we have lots of stop light. Kills average speed.
BTW, those Zipp 404 wheels are fast!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/88762340
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Not much hills here in NYC. The worst part is we have lots of stop light. Kills average speed.
BTW, those Zipp 404 wheels are fast!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/88762340
Nice cadence on your ride! I'd love to have a set of zipps. My LBS has both 303 and 404s just hanging waiting for me. Someday. BTW, I grew up in Plainview so I know your route on this ride well.
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They have some nice houses in and around Plainview as if you are not in New York. :)
Those 404 are fast on the flats and rolling hills but I do feel their weight on very long climbs. Hopefully you can test ride one before putting down a months' mortgage. :lol:
Nice cadence on your ride! I'd love to have a set of zipps. My LBS has both 303 and 404s just hanging waiting for me. Someday. BTW, I grew up in Plainview so I know your route on this ride well.
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Hey guys, thanks for sharing your ride data! Some guys in my group subscribe to Training peaks (I think that's the name) and Golden Cheetah, and break down their power data after every ride. That's too advanced for me at the moment but I'll probably start doing it when I get more serious later this month.
I just wanted to let you know about my latest purchase (no it's not a new bike!), I just picked up a pair of Pearl Izumi Elite In-R-Cool bib shorts from Performance on sale. They are a step up from my Elite II's, on paper at least, but I can't say I like them better. The Elite II's I have were half the price and the chamois is more dense. It takes a couple rides/washes for the Elite's to break in (the chamois gets softer) but I really like the material and the fit. The Pearl Izumi bibs are more comfy out of the box and I finally bought the correct size (the Elite bibs are a size too large because I lost some weight). The size difference probably makes a bigger difference than the style but I like the way the Pearls are constructed.
Also, the Pearl bibs have great ventilation, fit very snugly and comforably, the legs don't slip and they feel like you are not wearing anything (I'm estimating of course :oops:). I don't use chamois cream (ever) anymore and have no issue with chafing on long rides. Rode the PI's for over 100 miles so far with no issues. They were on sale and I regret not buying 2 pairs! I've never tried high $$$ bibs like Assos or Castelli but these are very good for the money. I paid $85 at Performance and they usually cost around $125. Good deal at $85!
I did a spin class in bike shorts and still can't imagine how anyone (unless you are really tall or have ill fitting bibs) could choose shorts over bibs. The bibs stay up nicely and feel so good. With shorts, I always find myself hiking them up!
Cheers!
J
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Drove out of the mountains for a metric Sat. morning. Hung in a pretty fast group for the first 30 miles but then those guys called it quits and left my friend and me to finish the ride alone. I don't get to ride many rides with rolling hills so this ride is always worth the drive.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/90092448
Today my friend joined me for a ride on the Blue Ridge Parkway up to the Craggy Gardens Visitors Center. It's 18 miles up and then back down, 36 rt with 3600' of climbing. We took this ride at an easy pace since we were feeling our legs from the day before. It was so pleasantly cool as we rode up the climb, upper 50s and breezy at the top.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/90321414
Andy
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That's pretty impressive Andy. Having a good riding buddy is priceless! :thumb:
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Andy, thanks for sharing the link. Great ride on Saturday. It was very hot here and muggy. I only managed 30 miles on Saturday and a short workout yesterday. It was my son's birthday party weekend and my wife had too much on the to-do list for me.
A guy died during the half marathon in Chicago this weekend. He was in good shape and passed out in the high heat/humidity. Just a reminder to everyone to hydrate and to listen to your body. Be careful out there!
Cheers,
J
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Sorry to hear about that. It was once thought that athletes were immune to diseases.
It was nice in cool in Long Island averaging 67deg F. We did 116 miles. I switched tires from GP4000s to a 320tpi Vittoria Open Corsa CX II and this is one supple tire. :thumb:
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It's been so very hot here too. Way above normal. On the century ride last weekend as we loaded the bus to go down the mountain there was a fellow being tended to by EMS. He was getting an IV but he looked very gray and I worried about his condition. I usually wilt in the heat and have to slow down. On a long ride it will sneak up on you and then wham! you're in trouble. Be sensible when exercising in this stuff!
I'm lucky to be able to ride at elevation when it gets hot though lately the weather pattern has been so stagnant the air quality has been poor up high. Then it's pick your poison or not ride. Often I choose not to ride.
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Levi, I can't imagine riding on those tires, they must be like floating on a cloud! On our roads (chip and seal) with lots of glass and debris, I don't think they would last long enough or resist flats enough to justify the expense but I'm going to try them someday! I always eye the pair on the shelf in my local shop and have been very tempted to get them, just to see what it's like.
Also, cool BMC your friend has in the picture. I'm going to take a picture of my group sometime. There are some cool bikes but no Cervelo or BMC! A couple Lynskey, S-Works, Serotta and a Willier Cento Uno (nice) and a Colnago shows up once in a while. A guy showed up with an older aluminum Felt with a friend who brought an old Trek bonded aluminum/CF bike with downtube shifters two weeks ago and they both killed us. I hate to think about what they would have done if they had fancier bikes. Oh, and I hate those guys! Just kidding about that last part...
Great ride, by the way! I feel guilty for not getting as many miles in but there were too many family committments and the weather was too hot for me.
Cheers,
J
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Guys,
Thank you all for all the reports and inspiration. You have convinced me to get out my old Cannondale R500 and start riding again. I haven't been serious riding a bike for close to 15 years as I have focused mostly on trail running and ultramarathons. it should be interesting as I am sure my legs at 61 aren't same as what the were in my late forties.
Bill
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Hey Jack, the 320TPI Vittorias' are the closest you can get to riding tubulars. Obviously, they are not going to be for training but for special occation rides only.
They are available on eBay for $100 pair shipped if you would like to try them.
eBay seller is:longroadmultisport
Levi, I can't imagine riding on those tires, they must be like floating on a cloud! On our roads (chip and seal) with lots of glass and debris, I don't think they would last long enough or resist flats enough to justify the expense but I'm going to try them someday! I always eye the pair on the shelf in my local shop and have been very tempted to get them, just to see what it's like.
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Hey Bill, it is easier to ride a bike than running. It is so passive that you literally had to push a little harder to get a good workout. ;)
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Don't attempt this unless you live on the edge... :lol:
An interesting 3+ minutes look at driver, riders' and walkers' interaction at a typical Manhattan intersection. :o
http://blog.ronconcocacola.com/2011/06/02/nyc-goes-three-ways.aspx (http://blog.ronconcocacola.com/2011/06/02/nyc-goes-three-ways.aspx)
Here is another video by a cyclist who got a ticket for riding in the road as opposed to the bike lane...kinda ridiculous in some ways, but he was trying to make a point in response to the ticketing cop's action.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/09/bike-lane-ticket-new-york_n_873790.html (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/06/09/bike-lane-ticket-new-york_n_873790.html)
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Don't attempt this unless you live on the edge... :lol:
An interesting 3+ minutes look at driver, riders' and walkers' interaction at a typical Manhattan intersection. :o
http://blog.ronconcocacola.com/2011/06/02/nyc-goes-three-ways.aspx (http://blog.ronconcocacola.com/2011/06/02/nyc-goes-three-ways.aspx)
Jeez, we're going to visit Manhattan for the first time (on non-business, that is) in July :o
Brings new meaning to the "Share The Road" bicycle signs that adorn nearly every road here now.
Tom
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Just wanted to thank everyone for help with bike choices for a biggin. I picked up a 2010 Trek 2.3 with new SRAM Red all around for 1900. It will be in my hands soon....JP
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Just wanted to thank everyone for help with bike choices for a biggin. I picked up a 2010 Trek 2.3 with new SRAM Red all around for 1900. It will be in my hands soon....JP
If that bike fits you well, it should work fine. I have SRAM Red and love it. If I ever change bikes, the SRAM is going on the new bike and my old Shimano is going on the old one. The shifting is amazing and it is very lightweight. Trek has a lifetime warranty for original owners. If you are the original owner of the bike, keep your receipt. If your Trek comes with a Bontrager saddle, like mine did, you might want to look at getting a new one that is more comfy. Saddles are usually a place bike manufacturers scrimp.
I made a deal (with myself) when I got my bike. I was not going to spend any money on making the bike lighter until I lost 30 lbs, and was not going to replace anything unless it was faulty or uncomfortable. So far, I've broken my rule but not too bad. Comfort on the bike remains my top prioirity!
Oh, please post pictures of the new ride when it arrives. :thumb:
Cheers,
J
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Hey guys,
I recently got the trek entry level bike to ride with my wife causally as she has decided to do a half triathlon. I am into fitness pretty hardcore so I was looking for some tips on how to make it up hills faster, the downhill is fine :thumb:. Also if anyone has a recommended new guy FAQ that would be awesome, I have come across a few but I didn't feel like they were in depth enough. We are just doing 10 mile rides to start out with, and those are completed in around 25 to 30 minutes.
Thanks
Jared
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Congrats on her new bike Jared.
The cheapest would be is to upgrade the tires and tubes. Lightweight/low rolling resistance tires and tubes should help her crest that hill. You cannot go wrong with a 55g inner tube and a Conti 4000s or Michelin Pro Race 3 tires.
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You should be fine.
Enjoy your short stay in the City. It is a dog, eat dog world. Stay Alert and be smart!
Jeez, we're going to visit Manhattan for the first time (on non-business, that is) in July :o
Brings new meaning to the "Share The Road" bicycle signs that adorn nearly every road here now.
Tom
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Just received the Garmin 800 today. Here's my first activity log:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/93812845 (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/93812845)
When I uploaded today's activity to Connect, the activity's title is "untitled". After I changed the title's name, the summary data shows up as "edited" instead of "original". I have to figure this and many other things out. This is my second ride in more than two weeks as I am still recovering from a cold. But, couldn't sit still after I received this puppy. The rides good though. Coughed all my phlegm out after 8 miles.
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My first real road ride this year. It wasn't super long as the sun was going down but I wanted to get my legs over the bike. I really dig this stretch of uncrowded road. Enough climbing to keep you honest but not kill you if you aren't in shape (me). There is one climb about 3/4rd of the way through that is a bit of a lung buster, leg acher for me. Doesn't look like much on the elevation chart, but I even seen the gran turno (sic) group struggle up it. Plus I am missing the low gears on my bike (double, not a compact double).
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/93827010
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P.S. this was the first ride I did with my new Look pedals and SIDI road shoes. Before I was using my SIDI mtb shoes + xt deore (mtb) pedals. I love my SIDI shoes, they are comfy. The road shoes even more so and the platform feels like more support on your foot. They are very easy to click out of, no worries there, but they are a pain to click into as you have to fight to get them right side up. Kind of sucks off a traffic light. Guess I need to practice more.
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I love Sidi's also. Like all Italian shoes...they are not made for walking. :thumb:
Remember back in the late 80's?
(http://www.pbase.com/levir/image/132525844.jpg)
Since the stack height has between your pedals/shoes has changed you may need to raise your seat a few mm's.
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P.S. this was the first ride I did with my new Look pedals and SIDI road shoes. Before I was using my SIDI mtb shoes + xt deore (mtb) pedals. I love my SIDI shoes, they are comfy. The road shoes even more so and the platform feels like more support on your foot. They are very easy to click out of, no worries there, but they are a pain to click into as you have to fight to get them right side up. Kind of sucks off a traffic light. Guess I need to practice more.
Josh, I LOVE my SIDI road shoes. I have the Genius 6.6's and keep looking for a pair of Ergo2's on Ebay. The Ergo2's are very nice but too expensive at normal SRP because of the dollar. Some people don't fit in Sidi's properly (they run narrow) but I'm thankful they fit me well. I also love my Look pedals. I have a pair of Sprints and they work well for me. Lots of guys in my group have switched to Speedplay but I like my Looks.
Cheers,
Jack
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I actually have wide feet, but I keep the front straps a bit looser and never had any issue.
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I actually have wide feet, but I keep the front straps a bit looser and never had any issue.
They make a MEGA model for people with wider feet. I haven't seen them in stores but Probikekit.com carries them in all of the styles. Sidi last a long time but they are harder and harder to find in Chicago area. All stores discontinued them last year (not all of them but most stores). I'm going to also try a Bont shoes, they are a New Zealand company that makes speed skates and bike shoes. They are all carbon fibre and moldable. I will let you know how they work as soon as I find a size 44 on eBay!
Levi - cool old-school shoes. I really like those old blue Sidi's. Lost a couple on Ebay over the years (new old stock).
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Thanks Jack. I was going to throw them old Sidi shoes away. He he he.
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Thanks Jack. I was going to throw them old Sidi shoes away. He he he.
Doh! I like the look of those old shoes but I imagine the new ones are stiffer and more comfy. Also, you aren't kidding about walking in road shoes, i hate it! I got a flat a while back and had to walk 4 miles home (no spare!) in my Shimano shoes. They had ventilation holes on the soles and it was wet out. My feet were soaked and miserable. I carry 2 spare tubes now!
Cheers,
J
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Levi,
How is the saddle holding up? Didn't think I'd ever say or consider a $150 saddle, but have been looking at some of Fizik's carbon models. Though more of a Arione person myself.
Thankfully never been much bothered by saddles. Regardless of the manufacturer, size, or shape. Maybe it is because I'm a lard ass and just do not feel/notice it.
Anyway, thanks for the time and thoughts.
Regards,
Jeff
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Hey Jeff,
The Fizik saddle that I use proves to be extremely comfortable even over century rides lasting over 116+ miles. I lucked out on this one. I had Selle Italia SLR with titanium rails on my road bike and it is nothing but pain in the ass. :lol: I have no problems with it riding off-roads.
To each his own.
--Levi
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My ride from Sunday, longest ride I have done in MANY years
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/95100455
The slow stuff about 31-37miles in was due to seeing a friend of mine riding the other direction on his mountain bike and I rode at his pace for a while
I learned a very valuable lesson, my body runs out of fuel after about 42miles!!!!
I bonked so hard its not even close to funny
I really need to take some sort of fuel for long rides like this, never really have any problems with 40, but lust past that, I was dead.
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Sandbagger, great stuff! Thanks for sharing. That Garminconnect is pretty slick. Looks like you had a great ride. I've been off the bike for a week because I had an infection in my gums that needed oral surgery (root canal and abcess, etc.). Fun stuff and I'm back in the chair for round two tomorrow. Hope to get a ride in tomorrow or Wednesday.
This thread is educational for me and inspirational! Who knew there were so many cyclists on AC?
Cheers,
J
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not fun, jackman! get better.
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sandman, I actually know where that is. I got married in Livonia. Well ceremony at least (court house wedding, legally).
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Here was tonight's ride, it was a dirt ride, I am multi-talented :lol:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/95358073
I am going to be doing a relay race out there end of july and hadnt been on that trail in over 2yrs. Had a slow guy with us, fine by me as I needed to remember where things went. I hit a wall pretty hard on the last 2 short climbs that should not have even phased me at all, probably due to the 50 I did yesterday.
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Anyone here from Boston? It's good to see bike building is alive and well in Boston, MA! I was checking out Independent Fabrication and learned they were moving out of state to a new facility. It makes sense because in order for them to take it to the next level (and sell bikes internationally) they needed a larger space. Their existing one was not set up for international buyers and local buyers to watch frames being made and to set up a nice showroom, and I imagine there were cost advantages of moving to a new facility. They decided to set up a larger factory in New Hampshire and I wish them luck.
Several people did not want to move from the Boston area and recently formed Firefly bikes. This is my version of bike porn, because their workmanship is really amazing. They only make ti and stainless steel bikes and the welder was one of IF's best (maybe the best) along with the bike designer who has a degree from Dartmoth in neuroscience. Not sure if that makes him a good bike designer but he did some great work at IF.
It's funny because all of these companies sprung from the ashes of Fat Chance Bikes! I'm probably missing some but Independent Fab, ANT Bikes, Firefly Bikes, Seven, all came from Fat Chance. There is something cool about bikes being made in the US, and something even cooler about bikes being made in Boston (to me at least). Like speakers or electronics made by Salk, Wright or Bamberg, it's cool to speak with the guy making your stuff, especially if it's something as important as a bike or a set of speakers.
The next time I get a big bonus (not on horizon but I'm working on it!), I'm going to take a long, hard look at some of these awesome American craftsmen including the guys at Firefly, Lynskey, Zinn, Waterford, and IF. I've seen Lynskey bikes up close and they are works of art. I expect the same from Firefly!
Here are the goods...Boston in the house!
http://fireflybicycles.com/gallery-2
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Ti frame are great. I have a Litespeed and Merlin custom frames.
However, for road bikes Carbon composites are the best materials. That is if you want to be competitive = fast. ;)
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Ti frame are great. I have a Litespeed and Merlin custom frames.
However, for road bikes Carbon composites are the best materials. That is if you want to be competitive = fast. ;)
I used to think the same thing, but now I'm not so sure. It's not that I'm debating whether CF bikes are the fastest, they probably are. They are the lightest and stiffest frames you can get. They can also be made to be very comfortable, or have the best blend of comfort and stiffness and lightness. These are things that are nearly impossible to do with other materials.
I've tested some CF bikes (and I currently own one) and most of them were awesome. The stiffest, and possibly fastest bike I've ever tried was a Scott Addict, but I would never want to own this bike. It was just too stiff and race oriented for me. The bike was feather-weight and very sexy but too twitchy and stiff.
My next bike will have a long-ish wheelbase, good handling, be stiff yet comfortable, and be a bike that I can keep for a long time. The Ti Firefly or Lynskey are very different than older ti bikes. The new Ti tubesets have shaped tubes, are butted and they are stiff and comfortable, plus they ride great. I could build one (with Edge fork and wheels and SRAM Red) around the 15-16 lb range, but the weight is not my primary consideration. I want a bike that is comfy, lightweight and fast. There are carbon bikes on my list also!
Other bikes on my lust-list include Colnago C59, Parlee Z5 (or 4,3,2 but they are out of my budget), Serotta Ottrott - which is a combination of CF and Ti. Serotta makes the best riding bikes I have ever tried and several guys in my group ride Serotta. They are beautiful to look at and not the typical cookie-cutter bikes you see on the road. http://www.serotta.com/Bikes/Road/OttrottSE/
Ideally, I'd like to have several bikes (and several audio systems while I'm at it) for different occasions. A crit bike for short fast rides, a TT bike, a cyclocross bike for muddy rides and a comfy bike for long, fast group rides and centuries. My budget allows for one bike (one pro level race bike) and I'd like to get one that does as many things good as possible.
For speed, I really need to work on the motor, me. I've been sidelined with a bad infection in my gums, and had my second root canal today. Feeling good enough to ride tonight and I hope to get a fast training ride in. There is a hill near my house and I am going to do interval training too get ready for some big weekend rides. Looking forwrd to hearing about the exciting rides you NY guys are undoubtedly planning this weekend.
Cheers,
Jack
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Lets not forget Maietta, Mooney, Iglehart, White, Mojic, Zanconato, and maybe the master of them all, Sachs.
Jack, I agree the Firefly guys are turning out some killer stuff. The Bertone is just cool as s***.
I won't get into the steel vs. carbon vs. ti debate, thankfully I own or have owned some of each. They are have their pro's and con's. Intent and purpose may go a long way into material choice.
They are great builders of each material. Sure I am missing a few, but my list would probably boil down to something like;
Carbon - Parlee, Crumpton, Serotta, Strong
Ti - Kish, Ericson, Strong, Bedford, Firefly, Baum,
Steel - Sachs, Bedford, Kirk, Zanc, Vanilla, Strong, Baum,
If start to see a common thread, they are all custom builders.
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It was just my observation based on what the Pro cyclist were using at Tour de Italia and Tour de France. Likewise, most fast guys in my group were armed with carbon speed weapons.
I haven't seen anyone who had a Ti or Aluminum frame road bike who won the tour. I could be wrong. :lol:
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It was just my observation based on what the Pro cyclist were using at Tour de Italia and Tour de France. Likewise, most fast guys in my group were armed with carbon speed weapons.
I haven't seen anyone who had a Ti or Aluminum frame road bike who won the tour. I could be wrong. :lol:
Levi, you know that pro cyclists don't get to pick the frame material of the bike they ride. :) Most pro's don't get to pick the brand of bike - the team usually picks the brand of bike. It is usually not based on bike performance (all of the major bike manufacturers make very good bikes), but economics - who is willing to pay them the most money to ride their bike. Only big bike companies can afford to sponsor teams in big races. No big bike company (as far as I know) who sponsors a team makes bikes out of anything but CF. Also, economics plays a major role in this equasion. Bike companies want people to ride frames that generate the most profit for the bike companies.
CF is an awesome material and I'm not going to argue against it. Just saying that the "pro's use it" argument is not as solid as many people think. I tend to think there are lots of great frame material options, each with its own pro's and cons. The importance of design of the bike and construction of the frame are often overlooked.
Among the well known (small) frame manufacturers there are framebuilders who can make a bike tailored to a rider's specific needs, preferences and size. The best of these companies (listed by Ladydog) have a cult following among people who pay large sums of money to buy their products. Heck, several former pro's who can ride anything they wish are known to purchase these bikes for their personal bike stable. Often, these bikes are made of steel or Ti or a combination of a metal and CF and custom made to the rider's size. It would be very difficult (and not profitable) for a large bike company like Specialized or Giant to make a bike in this manner.
Not to say I ultimately get a cool Tarmac, S2 or TCR! Those are cool bikes and my opinion changes every time I think about it. :scratch:
Cheers,
J
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For myself, I don't care about being the fastest guy out there. I ride solo. I just care about a bike that makes me what to keep riding and getting stronger. 500grms one way or the other isn't going to make a huge difference to me.
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Sure Pro riders have a choice. One example is Team Garmin-Cervelo. In particular, Thor Hushovd rides Cervelo S3, R3SL, R3 and FM70. Likewise, Contact points like saddles, pedals, bars and other components like wheel sets. Sure they have a choice.
Trek, Specialized, Giant, Scott makes lots of road bikes. Pro riders can choose between all of them. Why not ride aluminum or Titanium if Carbon has all the advantages in racing. It is simply the best materials for whoever wants to go FAST and win races.
They always have choices. Pros and club racers alike.
Simply look around you, the fastest guys in your group rides what? In my Group it is not Ti, Aluminum, steel or combination. They use Carbon frame bikes. Hence my point. :lol:
Btw, running a tour is expensive that is why most small manufacturers like Cervelo teams up with Garmin. Other companies follow suit. If sponsors thinks you have a winning bike, they will invest on you or your bike company.
Levi, you know that pro cyclists don't get to pick the frame material of the bike they ride. :) Most pro's don't get to pick the brand of bike - the team usually picks the brand of bike. It is usually not based on bike performance (all of the major bike manufacturers make very good bikes), but economics - who is willing to pay them the most money to ride their bike. Only big bike companies can afford to sponsor teams in big races. No big bike company (as far as I know) who sponsors a team makes bikes out of anything but CF. Also, economics plays a major role in this equasion. Bike companies want people to ride frames that generate the most profit for the bike companies.
CF is an awesome material and I'm not going to argue against it. Just saying that the "pro's use it" argument is not as solid as many people think. I tend to think there are lots of great frame material options, each with its own pro's and cons. The importance of design of the bike and construction of the frame are often overlooked.
Among the well known (small) frame manufacturers there are framebuilders who can make a bike tailored to a rider's specific needs, preferences and size. The best of these companies (listed by Ladydog) have a cult following among people who pay large sums of money to buy their products. Heck, several former pro's who can ride anything they wish are known to purchase these bikes for their personal bike stable. Often, these bikes are made of steel or Ti or a combination of a metal and CF and custom made to the rider's size. It would be very difficult (and not profitable) for a large bike company like Specialized or Giant to make a bike in this manner.
Not to say I ultimately get a cool Tarmac, S2 or TCR! Those are cool bikes and my opinion changes every time I think about it. :scratch:
Cheers,
J
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By the way, a comment above made me think about my situation. I often wonder whether I got the wrong size bike. The bike shop steered me to a 52cm (I'm 5'8" and 30" inseam).
Its my first real road bike since I was a kid and back then nothing was ever fit or anything like that. It just feels so small and twitchy to me. Going over 30mphs is freaking scary, which isn't like me, I am a daredevil and a half. By contrast, going 35mph down a rocky, rooty double track isn't scary at all on either of my MTBs. They feel much more stable.
Maybe its just the bike's geometry being more compact rather than spread-out and I am not used to it? It feels ok in many ways, but high speed downhills feels quite unnerving on this bike.
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Hey Josh, riding in a group is fun. Keeping up with the fast guys makes you even fitter. You just have to play it smart. Work hard or work smart! ;)
Your twitchiness in high speed can be caused by many factors. One of them is your stem and body position. CAAD9 has good geometry. You may also need to relax in the saddle. Now I am just guessing. :lol:
Spending extra on a good bike fit is worth it in the long run.
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All this talk about carbon vs steel vs Ti makes me think of that youtube video/skit about "performance".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn29DvMITu4
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They guy is pretty fit too. :lol: :thumb:
All this talk about carbon vs steel vs Ti makes me think of that youtube video/skit about "performance".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn29DvMITu4
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Sure Pro riders have a choice. One example is Team Garmin-Cervelo. In particular, Thor Hushovd rides Cervelo S3, R3SL, R3 and FM70. Likewise, Contact points like saddles, pedals, bars and other components like wheel sets. Sure they have a choice.
Trek, Specialized, Giant, Scott makes lots of road bikes. Pro riders can choose between all of them. Why not ride aluminum or Titanium if Carbon has all the advantages in racing. It is simply the best materials for whoever wants to go FAST!
They always have choices. Pros and club racers alike.
Simply look around you, the fastest guys in your group rides what? In my Group it is not Ti, Aluminum, steel or combination. They use Carbon frame bikes. Hence my point. :lol:
Btw, running a tour is expensive that is why most small manufacturers like Cervelo teams up with Garmin. Other companies follow suit.
The Cervelo team can ride any bike they choose...as long as it's a Cervelo! Pro riders choose from a list of bikes their team mandates. They can pick among available models but no major bike company in the tour makes a race bike out of anything but CF. Trek, Specialized, Cervelo, Felt, etc., make non-CF bikes but they are their lower end or entry level frames and are not suitable for racing. This doesn't mean Ti or some of the new steel alloys aren't good choices, just that major bike manufacturers don't offer them.
Regarding the fastest guys, it's not a good scientific measure. The fastest guys in the world, pro riders, don't have to pay for their bikes and the companies who sponsor teams are all big and only have CF bikes as options for riders. I guess if a rider wanted to ride a cheap aluminum low-end bike, he could technically do it but I wouldn't compare a Trek 1.2 to a Firefly custom ti bike.
The bike choices of fastest guys in my group (or the groups we interact with are a mixed bag). We ride with a group of racers from a nearby town and there are high-end and lower-end bikes of every material. The fanciest bikes (often not riden by the fastest guys) are a completely custom Lynskey Helix (ti), a couple custom Serotta bikes (CF, Ti and steel) , some S-Works bikes including a Roubaix and a Tarmac (both CF), and a couple Madone bikes (CF), Willier Cento Uno (CF), Ridley Noah (CF), Pinerello (CF) and a CF Colnago. The Lynskey guy and several Serotta guys, and the S-Works Roubaix guy are among the fastest. The Colnago guy is the slowest (injuries and work committments have cut down on his training) but has a cool bike.
The fastest guys in the group (including guys who ride with us occasionally) would be fast on any bikes (assuming the fit was right). A guy joined us a month ago with an old Trek bike (CF with aluminum lugs from the early 90's) with friction downtube shifters, and another guy joined us riding a Felt aluminum bike with early 105 shifters and heavy wheels. Both guys were Cat3-4 racers and were very fast. They ride modest bikes because they can't afford better ones. Also, the Felt guy races crits and needs a stiff durable frame that is not expensive to replace in a crash.
Another fastest guy in my group rides an old Giant aluminum bike with CF stays. It's got a mixture of 105, heavy Shimano wheels and a MTB rear dr (XT) because he rides a triple with a 28 on the back. He does a lot of hill rides and needs the bail-out gear. I"m sure he'd be faster on a lightweight CF bike but I think he likes the idea of beating younger riders on fancy bikes while riding a 19-20lb bike.
Again, I'm not saying CF is NOT the most high-tech material available. It is, without a doubt. It's also the lightest and stiffest material, two attributes favored by professional riders. I'm just saying it is not the only material of choice for riders and racers who want a fast, comfortable bike. In terms of $/performance, it's hard to beat a good CF bike but there are several options that are pretty tempting to me at least...
Cheers,
J
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Hey Josh, riding in a group is fun. Keeping up with the fast guys makes you even fitter. You just have to play it smart. Work hard or work smart! ;)
Your twitchiness in high speed can be caused by many factors. One of them is your stem and body position. CAAD9 has good geometry. You may also need to relax in the saddle. Now I am just guessing. :lol:
Spending extra on a good bike fit is worth it in the long run.
Josh - what Levi said! Your CAAD9 is a well regarded frame among racers (with good resale if you decide to sell it!) and should handle well enough to feel stable at 30+ mph. Please note, CAAD9 is also a very aggressive geometry with short wheelbase. This is good if you are racing a crit (short fast races) but can feel twitchy compared to a bike with relaxed geometry (slack head and seat tube angle, shorter top tube, longer wheelbase). This is why I chose a bike with relaxed geometry. Below is a comparison of a Cannondale CAAD9 versus a Synapse from Cannondale (relaxed geo bike). Stage-racing bikes tend to have a longer wheelbase and they feel much more stable (IMO) at higher speeds. Plus, you don't "bob" as much when you climb out of the saddle. I copied the info below from another site when I was thinking about buying a CAAD9:
CAAD9 Versus Synapse:
Head Tube Angle: 73.5 / 73.0
Chainstay Length: 40.5 / 41.5
Wheelbase: 99.6 / 102.0
Head Tube Length: 17.5 / 20.0
These geometry differences might explain why you feel your CAAD is twitchy on fast downhills. The Synapse has a longer chainstay and wheelbase. Short wheelbase feels "faster" but this isn't necessarily a good thing for a stage racer or recreational rider. It's like taking a Ferrari on a long highway trip. The razor sharp steering and handling you love on short courses could be tiring on longer rides. Also, the head tube angle and longer head tube on the relaxed geometry bike give you a more upright riding position which is generally more comfortable for riders on longer rides.
There is a good reason every bike company now offers a high performance bike with relaxed geometry (Trek H2&3, Specialized Roubaix, Cervelo RS, Cannondale Synapse, etc.). They all call it something different (Endurance Geometry, Performance Geometry, etc.) but they are basically bikes designed for average recreational riders who don't feel comfortable on a bike with aggresive geometry. These bikes have shorter top tubes, longer head tubes, longer wheelbase, slack head and seat tube angles, etc. They handle well but are not twitchy, and you don't need a three inch stack of spacers on the stem to get a comfortable fit.
Along with bike choice, fit is the most important aspect of cycling, IMO. It's worth spending a few bucks to get a pro fit if you plan to ride long distances or if you want to get maximum performance out of your bike. A good fitter can help determine if your bike is the correct size and if you have the proper bars, saddle, stem, and position of each of these things.
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I have three road bikes and just don't ride my IF Ti much anymore for one reason or another. If anyone is looking for a large frame, 61cm/60TT let me know. Same for my Steel IF hardtail mtb.
I'll probably regret selling my Ti bike in the long run but right now it's just sitting around unused. It's too nice a bike to just lean against the wall!
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I have three road bikes and just don't ride my IF Ti much anymore for one reason or another. If anyone is looking for a large frame, 61cm/60TT let me know. Same for my Steel IF hardtail mtb.
I'll probably regret selling my Ti bike in the long run but right now it's just sitting around unused. It's too nice a bike to just lean against the wall!
Hey, you are helping to make Levi's point and refuting mine! :duh:
Just kidding. I wish you weren't so tall or I would be excited about that bike. Hopefully somone on AC can buy it from you. I love IF bikes, although I've never actually riden one that was the proper size and setup for me. Yours is beautiful.
What is your primary ride these days? I seem to recall a Specialized Roubaix or Tarmac but could be wrong.
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I have a SWorks Roubaix Di2 and a Parlee Z4. They are setup with different gearing so each has its purpose. The Z4 is my climbing bike while the Roubaix is more of an all arounder.
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I have a SWorks Roubaix Di2 and a Parlee Z4. They are setup with different gearing so each has its purpose. The Z4 is my climbing bike while the Roubaix is more of an all arounder.
Wow! You aren't messing around. Two bikes that are equally drool-worthy. I hear the Ultegra electronic kit is coming out and is going to be priced reasonably. I've tested the Di2 on an S-works Tarmac and it was amazing. I was very negative on the idea until I tried it. I'm sold (on everything but the price) of Di2.
You have great taste in bikes. My neighbor loves his S-works Roubaix. He's got Zipp 404 with Powertap and Ultegra. I am a sucker for those new matte finishes. There is a Scott Addict in my group, a new one with matte black and gray paint. I usually only see the rear of the bike because the guy hangs in the front of the pack (me, not so much).
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Andy,
Knew you had the Sworks, when did you get the Z4? Thoughts?
Jack does not know it yet, but I am going to get him to buy my Meivici. Then I may look at a Z5.
I agree, the worst thing about DI2 is the cost. Killer group.
I'll straddle the fence a bit. Probably 6 or 7 of the top 10 frames I have been on are carbon. But I'd take the Sachs, Vanilla, Kirk, or Holland I have ridden over many other carbon frames. Though I guess the Holland was 50/50 since it was an Exogrid. Then again, I have not been on everything and would not bet against frames made by Baum, Peg, etc. being right up with the best of them.
If I could only afford 1 bike, I may choose against carbon for repair/durability issues alone.
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Parlee makes very nice lightweight bikes w/ internal DI2 cabling. :thumb:
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Andy,
Knew you had the Sworks, when did you get the Z4? Thoughts?
Jack does not know it yet, but I am going to get him to buy my Meivici. Then I may look at a Z5.
I agree, the worst thing about DI2 is the cost. Killer group.
I'll straddle the fence a bit. Probably 6 or 7 of the top 10 frames I have been on are carbon. But I'd take the Sachs, Vanilla, or Holland I have ridden over many other carbon frames.
If I could only afford 1 bike, I may choose against carbon for repair/durability issues alone.
The Z4 is a nice ride. Parlee is known for making a smooth ride but it also has great feel. The Z5 and the new Z5sl and the SLi improve on the Z4. They add a BB30 BB, tapered HT and lighter tubing. I'd like to have a Z5sl.
My Z4 isn't quite as stiff/efficient as a Tarmac SL3 sworks but I think it has a better road feel. The Z5sl would be closer but I still think the Tarmac is the stiffest bike out there among the more common frames. Stiffness isn't every thing though. If I were buying a Parlee today, I'd get a version of the Z5 over the Z4 for the tangible improvements.
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Glad that everyone agreed about Carbon frames.
I recently upgraded my bearings to Cermic bearings. They are easy to do if you have the correct tools. My favorite one is this hammer type. I can invest on the nice bearing press but so far collet and hammer works.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/9c796bbe.png)
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Levi,
Ceramic bearings? What's next cryo? Stop falling for every fad... :thumb:
You know I'm kidding. :D I went for a 35 mile ride last night and realized midway through that I'm a slow, fat, slug who needs to buckle down and get serious about training, or find another group of fat slow slugs to ride with. Got passed by an older guy (didn't check ID but he looked older) on an old Tri-bike during last night's ride, and could not keep up with my group for most of the ride. The old guy had leather skin and an ancient Trek steel bike with old-school aero bars (like Lemond) and friction shifters. This only served to rub salt in the wound... :oops: In fairness, he was pretty fit and moving at a great pace. I already rode a hard 30 miles or so when this happened but suspect he could have beat me with fresh legs. He was one fast leathery dude.
Levi, please take pictures of the bearing installation if you can. If you like them, I look forward to your recommendations!
Lastly, I decided that even if I buy a new bike (Ladydog's Serotta perhaps?), I'm keeping my Trek (carbon fiber) Pilot. We rode chip and seal roads last night for a long stretch and my Pilot was as comfy as an old couch. The frame might be a bit flexy during 1000+watt sprints but I'll take it any time on bad pavement. The long wheelbase also tracks like it's on rails. Handling is not the best because of the high BB and upright riding position (my setup is relatively neutral) but I've done 45mph downhill rides with complete confidence.
Oh, one more thing. Bought this pump yesterday. My friend has one and I really like it (looks cool, works well, lightweight, etc.) and CC has 15% off:
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/product-accessories/2011-Lezyne-Road-Drive-Pump-9057.47.1.html?utm_source=Google&utm_medium=Google%2BBase&utm_campaign=Datafeed
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I had a thread on off-road with pictures of the whole bearing installation. You may have to dig them up.
I love all Lezyne pumps. I currently use their aluminum floor pump, mtb pumb and the road-drive but in silver. Unfortunately, I haven't used the Road Drive in real world situation. Knock on wood. :lol: They are a thing of beauty.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/c2c30ff8.jpg)
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I have the same Lezyne pump on my Bottecchia. I have a Specialized Airtool pump on my Fuji that looks exactly like this one except the shell is carbon instead of aluminum.
(http://www.bike24.net/images/products/p0117137.jpg)
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Thanks guys. I bought the exact same pump Levi has. Next thing you know, I'll be rolling up in a sweet Cervelo, with Zipps and DA!
I used the pump a few months ago (borrowed from neighbor during ride when I had a flat) and was very impressed. I've owned MTB frame pumps but never found one I liked on my road bike, until now. The little Lezyne is very cool looking and I love the way it works.
By the way, I hear electronic Ultegra is coming out. As you guys know, I'm always a sceptic, especially when it comes to radical new and expensive products. I never stated it on this forum but recall my negative reaction when I first read about Di2. It seemed like a solution to a problem that didn't exist, and an expensive one at that. This was my opinion, until I tried it.
Wow! My opinion changed about ten seconds into my first ride, in the parking lot of a local bike shop. Di2 was really nice and I like everything except the price. If electronic Ultegra is as good as Di2, at a much lower price (not sure about SRP), Shimano could have a real winner.
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely LOVE my SRAM Red group. It's the crispest, most intuitive shifting you can imagine. The levers and shifters are fully adjustable if you have smaller hands or if you like shifting from the drops. Shifting from the drops is super easy. Shifting in general is as good as it gets, IMO. I would take Red any day over standard 7900 DuraAce or anything from Shimano, Di2 is another story...
I do like Shimano cassettes and the Ultegra on my bike isn't going anywhere for a while. Inexpensive, quiet, great shifting, lightweight, etc. Shimano makes great cassettes!
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Is upgrading to Di2 like going from stick shift to paddle shift?
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Is upgrading to Di2 like going from stick shift to paddle shift?
That's a pretty good comparison. Please note, I only tested it a couple times in a parking lot (same bike both times, Specialized Tarmac S-works), but it was cool. We have some people on this board with much more experience. Please note, you can get a really nice complete bike with great components for the price of Di2! Ultegra electronic might appeal to people who lack super-deep pockets.
If you are looking to upgrade groupsets, and don't have $4,500 for the complete Di2 set (I think that's what they cost), SRAM Apex is awesome. I am not crazy about the crank but the shifting and overall feel is much better than 105 and I think it's cheaper. If I was buying a new bike and wanted to spend a bit more, I'd get SRAM Force group but would upgrade to Red shifters.
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Not so fast Levi about everybody agreeing carbon is king. :green:
Honestly, if I had the desirable choice to pick between say a Crumpton, Parlee, Sachs, or a Vanilla(could insert a few more in here), I'm not so sure what I would end up on.
Agree the Lezyne pumps, whether floor or for the frame are a great way to go.
For the most part I typically hover around the "mid" groups. Not to say that I haven't owned Dura Ace or Record, but generally felt the Chorus, Centaur, Rival, Ultegra of the worlds were the most cost effective solution. Imo, rather spend my money into better ways like a nicer frame or better wheels. That being said, if Di2 was somewhat affordable, it would be on my bike. I was Jack in that it was a solution for a problem that did not exist, but damn is it nice when have had the chance to put a few miles on it. Front shifting is flawless.
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I am glad that we agreed to disagree. :D
Perhaps, my background is racing. My group who joins races every week (CAT1 and CAT2) would agree. That is not to bring a knife to a gun fight. Like wheels, aerodynamic frames do have an advantage but that is only if you go above 25-35mph. Speeds I often realize in our group trainings.
To each his own. :thumb:
Not so fast Levi about everybody agreeing carbon is king. :green:
Honestly, if I had the desirable choice to pick between say a Crumpton, Parlee, Sachs, or a Vanilla(could insert a few more in here), I'm not so sure what I would end up on.
Agree the Lezyne pumps, whether floor or for the frame are a great way to go.
For the most part I typically hover around the "mid" groups. Not to say that I haven't owned Dura Ace or Record, but generally felt the Chorus, Centaur, Rival, Ultegra of the worlds were the most cost effective solution. Imo, rather spend my money into better ways like a nicer frame or better wheels. That being said, if Di2 was somewhat affordable, it would be on my bike. I was Jack in that it was a solution for a problem that did not exist, but damn is it nice when have had the chance to put a few miles on it. Front shifting is flawless.
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Agree to disagree, I'm fine with that Levi. Though not sure I am actually disagreeing with you. :lol:
Carbon is great. Would put my carbon bike(s) up against any in the world, period.
Riddle me this though. If you could get a steel frame to say within a 1/2 - 3/4 lb of carbon, why would a rider of equal caliber not do as well on the steel frame? Please think about Sean Kelly before telling me stiffness is the be all. Sorry just dated myself as a former Cat 1 racer during that time.
I'm certainly not trying to pick an fight here, just curious for one's thoughts. Sorry comes natural being a "psych" major. And if we agree to disagree, I'm fine with that too. It is what makes the world go around, opinions. Everybody is their own movie critic. For example I think the Clayton Bros stink. Maybe I am just still made at you I was not invited to the NYAR in 10'. :lol:
I love your Cervelo. You have put together a top notch build and I have no doubt you can ride me into the ground right now whether I am on a carbon, steel, or carbon frame. Though watch out, if I pull out my Stingray you are dead meat.
Thanks for the tim and peace Levi.
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Here is Pinarello then and now: back in 1993 Miguel Indurain used a Pinarello classic lug-and-tube Columbus steel frame which weighed 19lbs in Tour de Italia. Now Bradley Wiggins uses a Pinarello Dogma 60.1. I am sure if you are in CAT1 now, you will not use Indurain's bike. :)
Nowadays, Carbon fiber replaced aluminum aero wheels, frame, fork, seatpost, handlebar and bottle cages in a modern race bike.
Carbon fiber can be formed in many ways. Using wind-tunnel, carbon frames can be formed to cheat the wind unlike steel frames.
Agree to disagree, I'm fine with that Levi. Though not sure I am actually disagreeing with you. :lol:
Carbon is great. Would put my carbon bike(s) up against any in the world, period.
Riddle me this though. If you could get a steel frame to say within a 1/2 - 3/4 lb of carbon, why would a rider of equal caliber not do as well on the steel frame? Please think about Sean Kelly before telling me stiffness is the be all. Sorry just dated myself as a former Cat 1 racer during that time.
I'm certainly not trying to pick an fight here, just curious for one's thoughts. Sorry comes natural being a "psych" major. And if we agree to disagree, I'm fine with that too. It is what makes the world go around, opinions. Everybody is their own movie critic. For example I think the Clayton Bros stink. Maybe I am just still made at you I was not invited to the NYAR in 10'. :lol:
I love your Cervelo. You have put together a top notch build and I have no doubt you can ride me into the ground right now whether I am on a carbon, steel, or carbon frame. Though watch out, if I pull out my Stingray you are dead meat.
Thanks for the tim and peace Levi.
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I am glad that we agreed to disagree. :D
Perhaps, my background is racing. My group who joins races every week (CAT1 and CAT2) would agree. That is not to bring a knife to a gun fight. Like wheels, aerodynamic frames do have an advantage but that is only if you go above 25-35mph. Speeds I often realize in our group trainings.
To each his own. :thumb:
Hey, if you are hitting speeds above 35, and you aren't going down a hill or riding with a stiff tail-wind, you might want to find a spot on that bike for a number! I have hit 40+mph but only on downhill sections, same with 30+ for that matter. I'm very impressed and 100% certain I would get dropped by your group within 10 seconds, on any bike that didn't have a motor.
I love riding fast...as fast as these 45 year old legs will take me. Weekend rides with the group are exciting but I need to find the discipline to ride more during the week, and watch my diet. It's too hard carting my 200lbs into a 30mph wind or up a hill, trying to keep up with guys who weigh 30-40lbs less. I was comparing power numbers with a guy in my group and was shocked to see a 150lb guy with much better average wattage than me. His average was 203 compared to my 187, and the only thing that kept me from getting dropped was some crafty wheel-sucking, and a couple traffic stops that allowed the us to regroup.
This guy is older than me (he's in his 50's), which somehow gives me hope! Before getting into cycling, I never knew older guys could ride so fast. I've met several guys in their 50's and 60's who regularly put the hurt on younger riders. This is perhaps the biggest "shocker" I've discovered since I started cycling a couple short years ago: You can be fast and old (you can also be slow and old, or slow and young but I already knew that!).
Last year, a guy in his late 50's joined one of our 40 mile training rides and shocked me at how fast and strong he was. He pulled for much of the ride, even on uphill sections and into strong headwinds, and the riding group featured some fast guys. Plus, he seemed to be taking it easy on us. The guy was too modest to admit it but my friend told me later that this guy routinely does sub-5 hour century rides with a group of older, former racers (some of whom are in their 60's!). To anyone who has never tried a century ride (100 miles), 20mph average over 100 mile distance is very impressive (to me at least). I've never managed 20mph (officially on the Garmin, no estimates!) on a 40 mile ride. Not even close!
I've given this some thought and have decided to set some goals (since my other efforts at increasing my speed are not working). I'm going to systematically approach my training and weight management and build up to a 5 hour century. Might not be able to do it this year but I think I can manage a 20mph average over 40 miles this year. Once I hit that, I'm shooting for 20mph average over 50 miles and so on. On a recent 30 mile ride, I had long stretches in the high 20's on wind-less flat sections but struggled into a headwind later in the ride when the sun went down and wind shifted. My average was around 18mph and I don't think I could have gone much faster.
I'm open to tips from all of the fast guys out there! In addition to more training miles and weight-loss, I'm incorporating intervals into my training and better nutrition. This may be a separate thread but does anyone have any training tips they can share?
Thanks,
J
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Hey Jack, don't worry about your speed, just keep riding and set your personal goals. Keep riding with fast riders (8:00 or 8:30am group) you tend to develope your own technique and get to push yourself really hard.
Cross training with other sports like Mountain biking also helps.
Lastly, ditch the gdata specially the average speed. I noticed that if you stop in a light(s) ave speed suffers. My .02.
My group always complain that they cannot draft behind me because I have such a small frame (142lbs) :green:. :lol:
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Hey Jack, don't worry about your speed, just keep riding and set your personal goals. Keep riding with fast riders (8:00 or 8:30am group) you tend to develope your own technique and get to push yourself really hard.
Cross training with other sports like Mountain biking also helps.
Lastly, ditch the gdata specially the average speed. I noticed that if you stop in a light(s) ave speed suffers. My .02.
My group always complain that they cannot draft behind me because I have such a small frame (142lbs) :green:. :lol:
Whenever I hear about a new guy showing up for a ride with my group, I'm always hopeful he's a big guy with a nice wheel I can camp out on. :thumb: Recent additions have all been small guys who are too fast to keep up with (and too small to get a decent draft from), or big guys who can't hang. A former racer who recently moved to Chicago from California joined the group recently who was big and fast (on a POS Felt aluminum bike with 105!) but he only showed up once because he was too fast and I think he wanted a faster group. This has only happened once in two years because most riders (including racers) don't mind the pace of our group.
Gdata is moving average but this slows down when you stop at intersections and stop signs so I know what you mean. I've got a power meter and I should be looking at average power. Average power is the most objective measure because it is not influenced by wind, drafting or other factors that affect average mph. I've had easy rides with higher mph average than much more difficult rides with slower mph avg. Watts don't lie. My new objective is to average 200 watts for a 40 mile ride (and then longer distances). I still want to do a sub 5 hour century!
Thanks for the cross-training tip. I've got a mountainbike but don't ride it often. Mainly around the neighborhood with my 6 year old son. Will have to get out and hit the trails with my MTB. There are loads of hotties on the local MUP lately (women's triathelon training) so the scenery is much better than the country roads on which I usually toil! Time to dust off the Cannondale!
Cheers,
Jack
Cheers,
J
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I'd love to have a power meter on my cranks. That would be the ultimate in training tool! I can't think about that right now because that is not healthy for my wallet. :)
If you like hotties, Central Park is your destiny. :thumb:
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I'd love to have a power meter on my cranks. That would be the ultimate in training tool! I can't think about that right now because that is not healthy for my wallet. :)
If you like hotties, Central Park is your destiny. :thumb:
I couldn't handle those Central Park hotties running around without crashing my bike! Not that I would mind... :thumb:
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Welll lets just say you don't want to be wearing lycra when riding around CP. ;)
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Jackman,
My advice is to start doing 2x20 intervals once per week.
Warm up for around 15 minutes then hit 90% of your FTP for 20 minutes. Rest for 10 minutes by soft pedaling and then do it again. I usually pick a route that will give me a 20 minute easy ride back home.
If you're averaging 187 Watts on 2 hour rides, I would sort of expect your FTP to be around 210 to 220 watts. I could be very wrong there but you'll need to start somewhere and most pple resist going out and doing an FTP test - they just want to go out and ride. If you want to test your FTP, there are many sites on the web where you can get the details.
Basically, to find your FTP you need to go out and hammer WFO for a period of time - some say 20 minute warm up followed by a few all out sprints to wake up your legs then a 20 minute all out time trial. The average of that 20 minute TT less 5% will be your FTP. Some folks say this overestimates your FTP and the only true way to determine it is to do a 60 minute all out TT. I don't think it matters too much as long as your efforts are really full on all out efforts for the time you choose. It is VERY hard to pace a 60 minute TT so most pple feel 20 minutes is a good place to start.
I would also include some 4x10 intervals in there too, maybe once every 10 days. Do these at 100-110% of your FTP. Rest 10 minutes between each. Do a 20 minute WU before and a 20 minute easy effort afterwards.
You can also do classic hill repeats. Find a hill you can climb in 10 minutes - or whatever - and hammer up it a bunch of times. Do some efforts sitting all the way and do some standing at the bottom and again at the top. Drive over the top. Always drive over the top :thumb:.
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Nice!
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Jackman,
My advice is to start doing 2x20 intervals once per week.
Warm up for around 15 minutes then hit 90% of your FTP for 20 minutes. Rest for 10 minutes by soft pedaling and then do it again. I usually pick a route that will give me a 20 minute easy ride back home.
If you're averaging 187 Watts on 2 hour rides, I would sort of expect your FTP to be around 210 to 220 watts. I could be very wrong there but you'll need to start somewhere and most pple resist going out and doing an FTP test - they just want to go out and ride. If you want to test your FTP, there are many sites on the web where you can get the details.
Basically, to find your FTP you need to go out and hammer WFO for a period of time - some say 20 minute warm up followed by a few all out sprints to wake up your legs then a 20 minute all out time trial. The average of that 20 minute TT less 5% will be your FTP. Some folks say this overestimates your FTP and the only true way to determine it is to do a 60 minute all out TT. I don't think it matters too much as long as your efforts are really full on all out efforts for the time you choose. It is VERY hard to pace a 60 minute TT so most pple feel 20 minutes is a good place to start.
I would also include some 4x10 intervals in there too, maybe once every 10 days. Do these at 100-110% of your FTP. Rest 10 minutes between each. Do a 20 minute WU before and a 20 minute easy effort afterwards.
You can also do classic hill repeats. Find a hill you can climb in 10 minutes - or whatever - and hammer up it a bunch of times. Do some efforts sitting all the way and do some standing at the bottom and again at the top. Drive over the top. Always drive over the top :thumb:.
Thanks AB! I'm tired of being slow and need to follow a systematic plan. I"m going to incorporate intervals as you have suggested. Will also follow the FTP guidelines. I have not tested my formal guidelines but your estimates are probably a close enough figure to start with.
Cheers,
J
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2x20 Intervals are the standard technique for raising FTP, and raising your FTP is how you will get faster overall. If you were unhappy with your sprinting or you were getting dropped on your group rides during surges, you would be looking at doing shorter intervals but looking to increase your speed over long rides, this is the way to go.
How long have you been seeing 187w or so average? Has it been going up recently?
People often figure increasing miles will make them stronger but most riders quickly plateau - they don't get faster, they only spend more time at the same pace. So if you're putting in lots of miles, I would recommend you cut back and do shorter, more intense efforts instead. I wouldn't give up the group rides but I would do some focused one to two hour solo efforts in place of your longer rides.
I would bet you'll raise your FTP 10% or more in 4 weeks doing 2x20s and 4x10s.
And why should you do intervals??
http://youtu.be/kkSFIWzi7aA (http://youtu.be/kkSFIWzi7aA)
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Good info AB. :thumb:
Jackman, along with your power meter it is easier to see if you increased your FTP. Ultimately your cruising speed.
Ave MPH is not a measure of progress or how fast someone is. There are simply too many variables involved in ave speed. I think Phil started that by means of impressing people here. LOL! (hopefully this would provoke Phil to come out of hiding).
According to the graph below, 165W average simply taking your bike for a walk. :lol:
Thanks to AB. Use that power meter along with yout HR. :thumb:
Now you have no more excuse. :green:
http://www.flammerouge.je/content/3_factsheets/constant/functhresh.htm
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Thanks guys, I just got back from a ride and I'm beat. Missed my group this morning and went solo. Those blacktop roads with no shade are brutally hot (102F on the Garmin!) and I swear it felt like I had a headwind for most of the ride (I know this isn't possible but that's how it felt).
I drank 6 bottles of water (brought 3 and refilled each during the ride), and I was thirsty when I returned home. My little toe feels like it's going to fall off but I'm really happy to have made it back.
A funny story about my ride home (funny to me at least). My legs were dead, I was really hot and out of water, and worst of all my toe was hurting like crazy (no idea why) about 30 miles into my ride. I had about 12 miles to go on my way home, when I spotted a young guy on a 29" MTB about a half a block behind me. He was wearing a bright orange shirt so he was hard to miss. There was little wind and the final section was (thankfully) relatively flat, and I was taking it easy after doing some interval training (more on the specifics later if anyone is interested) earlier in the ride.
I glanced over my shoulder to check for cars as I approached an intersection and this guy on the MTB comes flying past me, pedaling all out, standing on the pedals! The voice in my head was saying, "hey, I just did 30 miles in 100F degree heat and my toe is going to fall off, give me a break!" but the other voice in my head said, "screw this, you just got passed by a guy on a mountainbike, you loser!". As I often do, I listened to the second voice and decided that if I was going to be passed by a guy on a MTB, it was not going to be without a fight. :green:
I stood on my pedals and gave it everything I had. At this point, my sunglasses were completely soaked in sweat, I could barely see and I honestly was ready to pass out. I looked down at my Garmin (which had been a bit wonky all day, turning off on its own two separate times) and it registered 850 watts, 31 mph, as I passed the guy. As I passed, the only thing I that came to mind was, "nice day!" so that's what I said, with a big smile. I kept the full-out effort up for the final two or three miles (sitting down the whole time I was in front of the guy because I wanted to make it look like I was not working hard) because I assumed this guy was on my tail but when I turned around he was several blocks behind, neary out of sight.
After the guy gave up his chase, as I rode home, it occured to me that I was in a losing battle. The guy was young and in seemingly good shape (he was doing over 25 mph during a flat road sprint on a MTB), and he had a nice bike but it was still a MTB trying to beat a guy on a road bike in a sprint. Beating someone on a mountainbike, even at the end of a long ride did not feel good! Losing to a MTB would have felt worse, I can't lie!
The thing that really bothered me is that this guy really thought he could beat me on his MTB. I'm far from fast (compared to guys in my group) but I was ready to risk heat stroke, heart attack, crash, you name it, before losing to a MTB bike rider in a road sprint. WTF is wrong with me? :scratch:
Bollox...
J
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Some of the local pros had to go ride elsewhere because everyone wanted to race them all the time. The pros and most higher cat riders stick to their plan when on the bike. They can't afford to get suckered into racing while out on a specific training ride. Save the efforts for when they really count.
Of course if you are out riding to have some fun and aren't training for anything specific it's perfectly ok to crush some souls! Even if that soul is yours! lol
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Some of the local pros had to go ride elsewhere because everyone wanted to race them all the time. The pros and most higher cat riders stick to their plan when on the bike. They can't afford to get suckered into racing while out on a specific training ride. Save the efforts for when they really count.
Of course if you are out riding to have some fun and aren't training for anything specific it's perfectly ok to crush some souls! Even if that soul is yours! lol
It's stupid and immature to try to race people unless you are in a formal race. I know this and agree with the logic 100%. It's just that I could picture this guy telling his friends how he blew away some joker in spandex riding a skinny tire bike. The thought made me crazy! Someday I will learn...
Cheers,
J
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Have you heard the term "Cat 6" racing?
Well, you just won a Cat 6 race. :thumb:
And many 29er "Mtn" bikes are silly fast machines. My Cannondale weighs 21 lbs and with a little hard effort, I have no problem maintaining road bike speeds. It's hardly fair to call some of them Mtn bikes at all.
Now post up those numbers...
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Hey guys, I did a metric century today (an organized ride sponsored by the Joliet Bicycle Club). Metric centuries are kind've a bogus distance because it's only 63 miles. To be honest, I forgot that I signed up until my neighbor clued me in last night. It was painfully hot and my group hooked up with a really fast group in the begining of the ride. I stayed with them as long as I could but lost them before the first rest area.
Something is going on with my Garmin because it turned off several times during the ride and my total mileage is underrepresented. This probably helped my avg mph because I was really struggling towards the end anyway. I think I have my Garmin in some strange energy saving mode or something because it did the same thing on Saturday. As I stated, it was very hot and I hit the wall midway through the ride. On a positive note, after I lost my group, I hooked up with a slower group (people I've ridden with before) that included a couple hotties. Two lovely ladies who were training for a tri. It occured to me that I'd rather ride with a couple attractive girls, even if they are slower (they were faster than me) than a bunch of fast riding dudes. I need to lay down because I'm beat.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/96844360
Cheers,
J
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That's a very fast pace for a metric century.
I went out last week to ride 65 miles but my Garmin ran out of battery when I was only 10 ft from my house. Forgot to charge it up: lesson learned. I think my pace is somewhere in the low 15s as I finished in just under 4 hrs. Elevation gain was around low 3k though.
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Finally got back on the bike this weekend, all four days. A friend came up to visit and on Fri we did a short ride on the BRP in the late afternoon. I forgot my HR strap but it is interesting how this ride compares to the same ride two days later. I would say the Fri ride is at a RPE of 6/10.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/96321061
On Sat. we rode our mtbs over the mountain to Cades Cove in GSMNP. It's a unimproved gravel road over the hill and there are some very steep grades with a soft, loose roadbed at times. Quite a challenge. This ride is a little short on the Garmin file because the speeds were slow and the unit kept losing the sat signal in the woods. However, I was worn out and didn't eat enough on the ride.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/96321029
Sunday morning we planned a 50 mile ride on the BRP early before any traffic picked up. It was obvious from the start I had no legs and even almost fell asleep on the bike! I had to weave across the road just to get up a 7% grade. I turned around where I had on the ride on Friday. This was a painful ride. My HR just wouldn't budge. RPE was about a 9!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/96808788
This morning we rode a short 25 miles from town. I felt a bit better but the mtb ride took a lot out of my legs. I'll take a day off and try again on Wed.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/96808748
Andy
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Hey Guys,
Thanks for sharing your ride info! I had high hopes for today's ride but could not hang with the big boys for long. My friend sent me his Garmin data and the fast group finished with an avg MPH of around 22mph. There was an even faster group of racres and former racers who dropped my friends. Those guys were really fast.
Lots of cool bikes on the road today including some sweet Cervelo tri and timetrial bikes. My favorite of the day was a Lynskey Helix with Enve fork, wheels and SRAM red. It was polished Ti with lazor etched graphics. Also, some of these older guys were really fast and strong riders. A group of them were hauling butt and were planning to ride the course two times today for over 123 miles. 95F degrees made me glad it was only 60ish miles for me.
Damn I'm beat...
Cheers
J
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Hey guys, looks like you are all having fun on ur bikes. I've been meaning to chime in, but too lazy I guess! I did have a couple comments on jack's post a few days about setting some goals w/ his training.
First let me say jack that I admire your determination and competitive spirit. I tend to be the same way w/ stuff like this. Sometimes tho a (rhetorical) thought occurs to me, "what the heck are you doing???". Its a nice day out, I'm out on the road, its a lovely day, and for some reason I'm pushing myself along at an avg heart rate of 155-160 (I'm 43). Kinda makes me laugh at myself really, but I pedal on.
re: your goal of a solo 5hr century... GOOD LUCK! :green: Certainly training and decent equipment are important parts of achieving such goals, but frankly even if I quit my job just to prepare for that one thing I don't think I have have the aerobic capacity to achieve that milestone. (Even w/ a few rest stops)
I know its not the end-all measure of one's fitness level, but I have used AVG speed as a way to understand my fitness level for years now. My rides are almost always solo and are always out and back (generally a loop of some sort), so wind should even out (sorta) and net elevation change is the same ride to ride. One thing I've learned over the years is that upping your AVG speed even one or two MPH is a tough challenge. At my best (a few years ago) my target was to do my 20mi ride in an hour. I hit that maybe 5 or 6 times, but it required me being at the top of my game. I could never hold that pace for a longer ride. Last year I had a couple rides that were just over 19MPH, but I knew that getting to 20MPH was not gonna happen. This year I've not been able to train consistently enough so I'm struggling to get solidly in the 18's.
So, I tip my hat to you. I can tell that, like me, you bust you butt on your rides. I am a bit lighter than you (165lbs), but based on the speeds you discuss, I think you are a stronger rider than I am. And you certainly put more miles in than I do. So best of luck in your quest. I for one appreciate the challenge of a "regular" (non-racer) guy trying to hit that pace riding solo.
Below, is a typical training ride for me from a few days ago:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/96688049 (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/96688049)
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Hi Jon, thank you so much for sharing your comments and your ride information. A strange thing happened tonight. I went for a 40+ mile training ride and felt pretty good. Earlier in the week I had root canal and oral surgery (my third in as many weeks :x) and was on a round of strong antibiotics. I had a very ban infection in my gums (on one side), an abcess (sp?) and needed several root canals.
Although the root canal procedures were not fun, they weren't that bad. Since the infection cleared up, I feel great! And much stronger on the bike. Here are my numbers for today's solo ride. Fought wind for much of the ride and got slightly lost but it's my best average ever for a 40+ mile ride and I had to slow down several times for intersections and traffic. I don't use the auto-off feature on the Garmin so my numbers are what they are.
I finised with an 18.6 mph average over 41 miles and took it relatively easy over the last 5 miles or so. We have an 80 mile ride planned this Saturday and I want to make sure I have the legs for it. The group I'm planning to ride with is very fast so I should finish with a good speed if I can hang on a fast guy's wheel long enough. :thumb:
If these guys expect me to pull, they have another thing coming. :green: Cheers!
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/97577049
PS - one thing that slowed me down was a really sore little toe on my right foot. It only hurts while I ride so it must be fit related. I hope my Sidi shoes aren't too narrow. If they are, I'll bring them to the shoe guy to get stretched! No new shoes in my budget.
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I guess the intervals are working. You increased your FTP in only a few days. Congrats! :thumb:
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I guess the intervals are working. You increased your FTP in only a few days. Congrats! :thumb:
Thank you Levi, and thanks again to everyone for the encouragement. I have a long way to go. Need to lose some weight because it's killing my feet, pushing around 200 lbs for several hours. It's too early for the intervals to be helping but I think not having a throbbing infection in my gum is having a profound affect. That tooth was jacked up!
Take care and show some ride data! It gives me inspiration.
Cheers,
J
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It may take awhile to post my ride data.
I have to figure out how to trick the computer so I can have a very high ave mph. :lol:
Thank you Levi, and thanks again to everyone for the encouragement. I have a long way to go. Need to lose some weight because it's killing my feet, pushing around 200 lbs for several hours. It's too early for the intervals to be helping but I think not having a throbbing infection in my gum is having a profound affect. That tooth was jacked up!
Take care and show some ride data! It gives me inspiration.
Cheers,
J
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Hey that IS a good ride Jack! I think if I had to deal w/ all that dental work I'd look like your avatar!
One of my issues w/ training is getting the time to do some decent length rides. For me a 40+mi ride IS a long ride. I've been trying to squeeze in more miles lately by commuting to work 2 or 3 times / week. I use my old mountain bike. Its about 26mi round trip and of course I bust my hump the whole ride. Unfortunately I have to negotiate some city streets to get to my office. its not too bad in the morning, but going home I have more of the dreaded left turns and there are more cars on the road. I have to be really careful to make sure I don't do something stupid. Reminds me of the carpenter saying, "measure twice, cut once". Only for us its, "look twice, turn once". on a bike you don't fit in like you do in a car. You have to carefully assess how you are going to get from the road you're on to the road you want to be on. it gets tough when you're hot and tired. For my regular training rides on my road bike I have the liberty of riding in areas w/ fewer cars. Much less stressful...
anyway, ride on guys!
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Levi, the auto stop (I think that's what it's called) is the thing that stops your clock when you slow down or stop the bike. It messes with power meter, which is the real reason I don't use it. :thumb:
Jon, I work out of my home so riding to work is not an option. Your comments remind me that should use the time saved by working out of my home to ride for at least an hour a day (when I'm in town). Traffic around here is pretty bad so we take extra precautions and ride early and in rural areas when possible. 40+ miles feels like a lot to me but these guys in my group are crazy and always want to push it. My legs and lungs feel pretty good but I need to do something about my toe. For some reason, it really hurts after 30 miles or so. I don't think it's 100% my shoes. Feels like my foot is not flat on the pedal and putting pressure on the outside of my foot.
I'll keep everyone posted on the resolution. Hoping to get to the fitter later today or this weekend. Day off today (PTO) and I'm hoping to go for an easy ride to keep my legs loose and experiment with fixes to my toe pain problem.
Cheers,
Jack
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Jack,
Sorry to hear about your toe problems... My shoes are a bit on the tight side as well. One thing I do (especially on longer rides) is wear "thinner" socks. They are the short kind, but just thin. This actually give my feet/toes just a bit more room and helps my comfort level. I find thick socks aren't really req'd for me when I bike 'cause you tend not to get too much movement of your foot/feet within the shoe (compared to running or even walking). Just an idea...
Best of luck,
Jon
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I have pretty wide feet. I just don't tightening the toe strap very much and the middle one only slightly. That seems to work by and large for me.
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Hey guys, thanks for your comments and suggestions. I have an update!
The pain in my toe was not because my shoes were too tight. The toe box of the Sidi's are notoriously narrow but I still have enough room and should not be having this pain in the little toe. I noticed when I was sprinting and standing on the pedals, that my foot felt like it was leaning towards the outside of my foot - forcing all of my weight on the little toe area. To correct this, I added a thin piece of plastic to the outside of my cleat - between the cleat and shoe. This made my foot contact the pedal squarely and alieviated the pressure on the outside of my foot when I applied power to the pedals. I also swapped out the thin Sidi insoles with some custom insoles. The new insoles are a bit thicker but I was able to account for the difference by loosening the velcro straps. Rode a relatively brisk 66.5 miles today and my feet feel great! No toe pain (or foot pain) at all, and I feel like I can put more power to the pedals. Averaged 18.5mph but the first 30 miles were scorching, by my personal standards. :D
I'm going to get a fit kit to replace the plastic (an old credit card cut to the size of a quarter with a hole punched in the middle) eventually but this simple solution worked perfectly. If my rides were less than 50 miles, I would not have needed this solution. In my experience, most fit related problems do not surface until you are in the saddle for 4+ hours or on longer rides. On shorter rides, you can usually live with some slight discomfort. On long rides, the discomfort can become real pain and eventually injury.
Here is a fit website with some tools and wedges that pretty much accomplish a similar task. I have no doubt they are better than my credit card solution but after today's long ride, I am happy with the results of my experiment. Ride results below along with fit tools website. Cheers!
http://www.bikefit.com/products.php
Ride results from today (heart-rate info is bogus because I didn't wear a HR strap):
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/97929986
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Hey dudes! I hope everyone is finding some time to get out on two wheels. Glad to hear you are getting that toe/shoe thing sorted out Jack.
I have a ride coming up the first weekend in August for the MS Society. I will again be shooting to do the double century (century on Sat, and a century on Sun). So, I've been trying to ramp up my mileage. The previous two years that I've done this ride, I've really suffered from about mile 70-75 and on. Usually, my butt starts hurting, my hands start aching, my head feels like it weighs a 100 pounds and my legs run all out of juice. Other than that its lots of fun! :lol: But I keep on pedaling...
I wish it weren't so uncomfortable, and I'm sure more longer rides is the key to preparing. Just tuff to find the time. Anywho, I did a long (for me) solo ride yesterday afternoon. It was more or less an out and back to a well known church out here called Holy Hill. No, its not just a clever name. Lots of climbing... :duh: Short of traffic stops, I only did a brief stop at the church to dry my head a bit and refill my water bottle (yes, just one).
(http://www.aaroncjors.com/Wisconsin/Rural/481430D/977896622_H3DBg-M.jpg)
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/98570201 (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/98570201)
I really wanted to hit a 17MPH avg speed, and as you can see I was able to just eek that out. Bad part was how uncomfortable I was at the end of the ride. Mostly my butt and my neck were hurting. Legs weren't too bad. I think I just need more multi-hour rides. Gotta find the time, or I'll be really hurtin' come August.
That's my report from Wisconsin! :beer:
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Pretty picture Jon.
Take it you have tried different saddles to ease the but pain?
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Pretty picture Jon.
Take it you have tried different saddles to ease the but pain?
Yeah and I wish I'd have taken it! I fished that off the internet just to show you guys what a cool building / setting it is up there. My current "smart" phone takes terrible pics :(
I've not really tried too many saddles ladydog. I'm a bit cheap, plus I'm wondering if its the saddle or me just not being used to multi-hour rides (or a little of both). My mountain / commuter bike has a really bad seat (doesn't deserve to be called a saddle), so I was thinking of getting a new saddle for my road bike and shuffling the current seat over to the commuter.
This is the saddle I was looking at:
(http://www.nashbar.com/images/nashbar/products/medium/NS-F1-NCL-ANGLE.jpg)
https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10053&catalogId=10052&productId=175132 (https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10053&catalogId=10052&productId=175132)
Nothing too fancy (or expensive ($35)). Pretty light at 220g. Seems to get good ratings... Might be worth a shot?
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That's lots of climbing Jon.
Saddles are personal thing. Likewise with Bib shorts and padding that come with it.
Nevertheless, good ave speed. :thumb:
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Jon, I could understand trying to save a buck on tires or bars but saddles and shoes are a different matter. Contact points can make the difference between a comfy ride and a literal pain. I'm not saying you have to spend a bundle but don't buy a saddle/seat without trying it out first. Specialized has a good program where you can try several saddle styles and shapes to find the one that works for you. You don't have to spend a lot to get a great saddle, just make sure it fits.
I'd never advise buying a saddle without trying it first to make sure it fits. It's hard to tell by just looking at it or measuring it. You have to sit on it. Specialized has a tool that allows you to measure your sit bones to determine saddle suitability.
Beautiful picture and great ride! If you enjoy cycling, you need to find a proper saddle that fits you right. Pain and numbness can lead to damage.
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Good tips... thxs. I've actually been fairly lucky over the years compared to the stories I hear from other riders. I've never had any issues w/ numbness or chaffing for that matter. Just "soreness" if that makes any sense. On long 45mi+ rides I get to feeling like i weigh 400lbs sitting on that seat! I'm sure it has something to do w/ the fact that my legs are pushing as hard. And like I mentioned before, maybe its just a matter of finding the time to do more longer rides.
I don't mind spending some $$ on a saddle if I can have some confidence in it being "the one". Perhaps I will look at the local bike shops and see what they offer. I would definitely prefer a more scientific approach.
thanks again!
PS: Here's today's commute... terrible luck w/ the lights coming home! :duh:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/98798286 (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/98798286)
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Great ride Jon! I hope I don't sound like a know-it-all because I'm new to biking and most of what I learned, I learned by doing things the wrong way! I had the wrong saddle (seat!), wrong fit, wrong shoes, etc. Most of the fit related problems I had did not surface on rides less than 40 miles. On 40+ mile rides, little issues tend to create big problems. On 100+ mile rides, little issues can cause serious injuries, as I found out. My IT band was hurt for months after my first century on a poorly fit bike.
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It has been awhile since I participated in this thread so,
Hi, I am tybee from team Old Farts, and I chose Sram. That is Sram Force for my new Lynskey R230 titanium frame that should arrive early next month for a century ride, BRAT, and a few rides up north in Ladydog country.
My custom 25 year old steel frames will now go into retirement, but they have helped get me back into shape this riding season. When I left the north country to move to Tennessee over 20 years ago, I was riding lots of centuries and a few doubles each year in the Indiana, Michigan, and Ohio flatlands. Yes, Jackman, I was riding 5 hour centuries and 10.5 hour doubles in my 40s. Now that I am in my 60s, I just hope to average 17 -18 mph for a century after a 20 plus year layoff. My 25 mile workweek training ride here in Tennessee has lots of rollers which when attacked on the uphill provides good interval training. I am beginning to get enough conditioning to hang with a racing group for about 20 miles on the weekends. I find that I can maintain speed in the flats, but I am not ready for the climbs that are normal for every 40-70 mile weekend ride here. Unlike NC, we do not have quite the climbs that BikeWNC can experience in the Smokies, but I did ride a mile and half climb on the 4th of July that was a 9.8% grade.
I am very happy to be back in cycling having lost 25 pounds since last August with my blood pressure back to 120 over 55 and a resting pulse of 55. What I missed about cycling was all of the great people that I have befriended over the years. I have befriended a few other older guys here In Tennessee, as Jackman would call us, to join on a trip next year to bike the entire Natchez Trace of 444 miles from Nashville to Natchez, MS. We plan to split the trip into 70-80 mile days staying in B&Bs that cater to cyclists along the way. The Trace, as we call it, is a cyclist’s dream, with good roads, 50 mph speed limit for cars, and no stop signs or stoplights. One may see more wild turkeys on this ride than automobiles.
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Tybee,
Interestingly, I've got a neighbor who is also training for the BRAT, though he's no where as fast as you. He's now in his mid-60's and just started riding about 5 years ago when his knees could no longer take running.
"The Trace" is only about 25 miles from our location and yesterday, on a lark, decided to drive over to the Mathiston, MS entrance to check out the rolling hills as I had not been on that section in quite a while. North of Mathiston is currently closed for an 10 mile stretch due to the April tornado damage. I had no idea of how bad the damage was until I watched the video on this page: http://www.natcheztracetravel.com/natchez-trace-mississippi/houston-mantee-ms/629-natchez-trace-parkway-closure-from-milepost-2043-to-2145.html.
I too am just now starting to ride again after being out of it since the early 90's. Did part of the Big Dam Bridge Century in Little Rock last fall and am planning to do that one again along with the Handy100.com ride in Alabama which also involves the Trace. This W.C. Handy Music Festival ride was the first century I did back in 1985 and I have fond memories of it.
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JMC,
My wife and I visited the Trace over Memorial Day weekend and saw lots of damage from the spring tornados in MS. This trip served purposes, to get away and try some B&B on or near the Trace and to plan next year's ride. The best times to avoid the heat are between April to mid May or September. If you start in Nashville, you will have more descending than climbing at the expense of headwinds. I still think we will head south from Nashville to Natchez. It seems to flatten out more as get past Tupelo.
I chatted with a retired Cat 1 racer who owned a bike shop in Tupelo, and he provided alot of good advice about tackling the Trace in a week. We also chatted racing, and I discovered that I saw him crash in a criterium in Indianapolis in the mid 80s. He wanted to conitnue riding but they forced him into an ambulance for a ride to hospital. He was originally from West Virginia and discovered MS when racing and retired there.
There seems to be a nice size group of middle TN cyclists riding BRAT this year. I am looking forward to it.
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I went out this morning to do a set of mid season tune up style hill repeats.
Unfortunately my favorite hill is open range and the cows were hanging out in the road. On every lap I had to slow down and work my way through them. You never know what the calves might do so you really need to be careful. I've been run into and knocked over before.
It would have been fine but for my agenda - playing cowboy is always fun.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/99132802 (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/99132802)
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Unfortunately my favorite hill is open range and the cows were hanging out in the road. On every lap I had to slow down and work my way through them. You never know what they calves might do so you really need to be careful. I've been run into and knocked over before.
Certainly a different kind of "working your way through traffic." :-)
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Certainly a different kind of "working your way through traffic." :-)
Funny, those were my exact thoughts while waving my arms and yelling. There's no vehicle traffic at all out there but instead we get cattle. I'll take the cows over the cars most days.
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That's pretty funny! Did you eat a burger when you were done? LOL
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That's pretty funny! Did you eat a burger when you were done? LOL
No burger but a nice tenderloin. :thumb:
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It has been months riding the Zipp 404. My first impressions made me noticed that these wheel sets were truly wide and of high quality. Mounting tires on them were extremely easy and can be done by hands. No tire levers. They are fairly light much lighter than their published weight and robust. The 88/188 hubs where very smooth and noisy sounding which is the sound of quality.
Riding impressions were all positive. It is a very stiff laterally and comfortable wheelset. It is very stable riding even on strong winds. It autocorrects itself. Keeping the momentum Is fairly easy and it felt fast on smooth tarmac. Braking is much better than my Zipp 101 in dry weather. I have also ridden the wheels in a pouring rain and No brakes when they were wet. Don't ride them in the rain or be very careful when you get caught in the rain.
Truly not sure if it was in fact the Zipp 404 wheel set, I find my self faster and keeping up with the group (big difference) however not leading the pack. :lol:
I maybe selling my Zipp 101 soon. Hmmmm....
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Wheelset/526942fc.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/9d06c208.jpg)
No problem Levi. Been trying to get Jack on some tubulars for a while now too. ;)
Looking forward to your ride report. Please keep us posted. Oh btw, it didn't happen without pictures! Will lokk forward to those too.
Safe travels.
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Your new Firecrest wheels are awesome. :thumb:
There are several guys riding 404's and one guy with 303's in my group, but none are Firecrest. They all love their Zipps. Firecrest is supposed to handle better, be more aero, and have lower rolling resistance than the previous design. The ones I've seen have aluminum brake tracks and yours are CF. Nice~
Your bike is officially over the top! From top to bottom, you put together a very cool ride. Congrats!
One more thing. My friend crashed with his 303's (on a Willier Cento Uno) and pulled a spoke out of the rim, cracking the rim. He sent it back to Zipp and they replaced it for free. Not many companies would do that.
Zipp and Enve are my two favorite wheel companies. Those wheels look so cool on your Cervelo! That bike is too fast looking for a slow, chubby dude like myself. It would be like Chris Farley driging a Ferrari.
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Yeah, that bike is BAD ASS! :bowdown:
I love riding and I love gear, but I just couldn't imagine putting those kinds of dollars into my bicycle hobby. Actually, I couldn't imagine my wife letting me put those kinds of dollars in to my bicycle hobby! Sure would like to ride something like that tho! Very nice Levi.
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Cool bike. Non drive side pic makes it look less cool. 8)
Or you did that on purpose so we wouldn't get all freaked out by the Di2.
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Thanks guys for the complements. I figured I owe you guys a quick impressions of the Zipp 404.
I am running all 7900 components and SRAM Red brakes. No Di2. Yet. I tried them and I think they are very nice.
Have a Good Ride!
Cool bike. Non drive side pic makes it look less cool. 8)
Or you did that on purpose so we wouldn't get all freaked out by the Di2.
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My friend also had a crack on his 2011 Zipp 303 clinchers. He didn't crash his bike, at least that's what he reported. The crack originated near the valve stem. Zipp replaced them no problem.
Your new Firecrest wheels are awesome. :thumb:
There are several guys riding 404's and one guy with 303's in my group, but none are Firecrest. They all love their Zipps. Firecrest is supposed to handle better, be more aero, and have lower rolling resistance than the previous design. The ones I've seen have aluminum brake tracks and yours are CF. Nice~
Your bike is officially over the top! From top to bottom, you put together a very cool ride. Congrats!
One more thing. My friend crashed with his 303's (on a Willier Cento Uno) and pulled a spoke out of the rim, cracking the rim. He sent it back to Zipp and they replaced it for free. Not many companies would do that.
Zipp and Enve are my two favorite wheel companies. Those wheels look so cool on your Cervelo! That bike is too fast looking for a slow, chubby dude like myself. It would be like Chris Farley driging a Ferrari.
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A great read
http://surlybikes.com/blog/2514/
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Got some new kicks for one of mine bikes. Still need to adjust the bars and make some minor adjustments, but enjoy............
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=49032)
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Jeff, you have some sick looking bikes and that Cyfac is one of the best. I love the color and the way those rims look with that frame. Have you been doing any riding? I rode in the heat yesterday but it was extremely hot. Haven't downloaded the Garmin data but it must have been over 100F on that blacktop in the sun. I found it very difficult to breathe and could only manage 22 miles. Not much of a workout but it was good to get my legs moving a bit.
Cheers,
J
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Bike looks clean and fast. Congrats!
When you level the bars, it looks like the shifters may have to move as well. I surely appreciate the clean racy look. :thumb:
Expensive Bike!
Got some new kicks for one of mine bikes. Still need to adjust the bars and make some minor adjustments, but enjoy............
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=49032)
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Bike looks clean and fast. Congrats!
When you level the bars, it looks like the shifters may have to move as well. I surely appreciate the clean racy look. :thumb:
Expensive Bike!
I didn't notice it at first but I think you are correct. When he moves the bars forward, the shifters will be very "low" on the front of the bars. Jeff is Old-School and this is a position I've seen in old pro photos (from clips of TDF years ago). It could be he prefers this position. It seemed like riders favored the brakes very low on the bars in those days. It appears modern riders have them higher on the bars and ride more on the hoods than they did in the past.
I ride a lot in the drops and SRAM Red makes it easy to shift from the drop position. My bars are not set up aggressively but I plan to lower them because they are a bit high. I also just installed a K-Edge chain catcher. It's lightweight and easty to install. A cheap way to protect your CF frame from chain damage. http://www.acecosportgroup.com/shop/k-edge-chain-catchers/road/road-braze-on-chain-catcher.html
Too hot to ride around here anyway these days. I may spin on my trainer today because it's way too hot outside.
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Here is an article on the chain catcher. For $40, and 10g weight it's a cheap insurance policy. I don't have a problem with my chain coming off the small ring but I've experienced it once on a hill climb when I switched my FD from big to small ring (and chain was cross-chained). It caused my chain to lock up and jump the small ring. My FD was also not adjusted properly at the time. I had to stop the bike and put the chain back on. This device prevents that sort of thing from happening and protects your frame.
It takes about ten minutes to install.
http://ironman.com/training/sponsors/jay-prasuhn-reviews-an-innovative-product-that-could-save-your-next-race-performance#axzz1SkXCMORq
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Thanks for the reminder. Did mean this? :lol:
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/c4d27aae.jpg)
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Yep!
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Ha ha ha. New school school of thought. I may have a few more speed weapons. ;)
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Di2???
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Di2 are truly nice and I only saw them on expensive bikes $10K up. Duh! The price of admission is stiff. Di2 may not be the best bang for the buck speed weapon wise. Only BikeWNC is the only person I know who has one. ;)
Di2???
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Hey!
Saw this on local news here in NYC....
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/video/6091167-bike-theft-turning-into-a-major-problem-on-the-uws/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/video/6091167-bike-theft-turning-into-a-major-problem-on-the-uws/)
Suck isn't it? :evil: Yeah, bike theft is a big problem in NYC . I don't know what that weatherman was thinking locking his new shiny $2K+ bike on the street like that, yes even in upper east side where.
My bike ain't as much as that weatherman's bike but still I wouldn't lock my bike on NYC's street. Hey! Even a Huffy get picked here in NYC! :roll:
Think of it, it is sucks that you work hard to buy something nice than some SOB just steal it! Let's hope that Karma will take care of that thief :icon_twisted:
Take care,
Buddy :thumb:
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I read the news this morning. That is a clear reminder that there are still opportunists (thieves) out there lurking around.
My bike goes with me inside restrooms and starbucks. They look at me when I walk in and that is all there is to it. LOL!
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I read the news this morning. That is a clear reminder that there are still opportunists (thieves) out there lurking around.
My bike goes with me inside restrooms and starbucks. They look at me when I walk in and that is all there is to it. LOL!
Same here Levi! I have absolutely no shame as to where I bring my bike (bathroom, Starbucks, etc.), and it's not nearly as fancy as your bike. I would not leave it unattended in my relatively safe town, let along NYC. I can't imagine anyone giving you a look for protecting a very expensive bike in NYC. Anyone who doesn't is asking for problems!
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Another thing we have to watch out for is our Garmin Edge. That is also another point of interest. Truly easy to swipe. ;)
Magic. Now you see, now you don't. :bawl: :dunno:
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When I bought my road bike, I only had a basic fit. Almost a year later, I changed many things in my bike. Some of those changes had an effect on riding position such as saddle, pedals, shoes, etc. Since we spend many miles onroad, a good professional fit is in order.
I was at Toga Bike in New York yesterday and saw someone getting a Retul 3D fit. It costs $350. Worth it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73biNkPp0OY
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When I bought my road bike, I only had a basic fit. Almost a year later, I changed many things in my bike. Some of those changes had an effect on riding position such as saddle, pedals, shoes, etc. Since we spend many miles onroad, a good professional fit is in order.
I was at Toga Bike in New York yesterday and saw someone getting a Retul 3D fit. It costs $350. Worth it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73biNkPp0OY
I've done the 3D fit thing a few times now and I think it's worth it.
More comfort and more power.
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When I bought my road bike, I only had a basic fit. Almost a year later, I changed many things in my bike. Some of those changes had an effect on riding position such as saddle, pedals, shoes, etc. Since we spend many miles onroad, a good professional fit is in order.
I was at Toga Bike in New York yesterday and saw someone getting a Retul 3D fit. It costs $350. Worth it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73biNkPp0OY
That seems to be the going rate around here for a Retul fit. A couple friends of mine took the plunge (on a Retul fit) and they swear by the results. One guy read all of the available books on fitting and thought his fit was dialed in perfectly, before the Retul. He had a couple nagging pains (back, neck, etc.) and decided to spend the money.
Since the fit, he has become a convert and says he gained noticeable power. I have a hard time spending $350 for a fitting, but the Retul process is pretty involved and there are many advocates.
Are you having any pain or injuries that you feel are related to fit, or are you just trying to maximize your power/speed?
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Thanks guys.
I am not experiencing any pain or discomfort riding long distances. Just want to see if there is anything to be gained by getting a Retul fit.
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Yeah, I too am a bit too cheap to pay that much for a fit. I've always been tempted to have the self-adjusted fit of my bike reviewed and tweaked by an expert tho.
Just this past weekend I completed a charity ride for the MS Society. It was 100mi on Sat and 75mi on Sun. This was my third year doing the ride and by far my best as far as leg strength and general comfort is concerned. I stopped at all the stops for a quick stretch and water refill and got back on course. The quick stops seemed to leave me w/ better legs coming out of the rest areas compared to more prolonged rests. I was able to do Saturday at just over 18MPH (moving avg) with about 80% riding solo and the balance w/ groups here and there. My legs felt pretty good all day. I was frankly surprised how strong I was. Sunday was definitely a bit slower. I was kind of a mess w/ managing my Garmin. I kept forgetting to start/stop it properly. :duh: I rode w/ another guy the whole day and we prob averaged about 16.5MPH or so.
I was a bit nervous about my OTL (other than legs) comfort. Previous years, I had a sore butt, sore hands and a sore neck and lower back. Those were all in play this year too. Tho, riding faster and, as a result, spending overall less time in the saddle helps all those areas. I switched saddles a few weeks before the ride and the new saddle worked pretty well overall. I don't think (for me) there is any saddle that is going to be completely comfy for a century (unless I did more of them maybe). I do wonder if a better 'fit' would help my hands and neck/back. Hard to say. I don't have issues w/ any of these areas during 40-50mi training rides, so perhaps its all just down to me not being used to 5+hrs on the bike in a day.
The other thing keeping on the sidelines a bit re: getting a professional fit is my regular thoughts of getting a new bike / frame. Were I to invest in a new chariot, I most certainly would get a fit, but probably not a fancy Retul fit (too cheap! LOL).
Jon
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Never really looked into Retul. Is the expense maybe a Windy City or NY thing, where it generally costs more than say here in Indy?
That said, I am a big proponent on fittings in general, if you can find a good one. In some cases people spend as much as $3,000 on a bike and then start plopping down a $150 for tires, $125 for a new carbon bar, or $800 for new wheels.
Get your contact points set first with a professional fitting, better money spent.
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If you're interested in bike fitting - reading about it in all its complications - have a look here...
http://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/blog/ (http://www.stevehoggbikefitting.com/blog/)
Lots of good info.
Had a crappy ride today. A bit windy and felt flat fairly quickly. Need some time off or there's some stress happening.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/105218287 (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/105218287)
Made several stops to give directions to visitors - not a problem but it seems this little piece of rural Colorado is attracting destination cyclists. Who would have thought?
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AB - you are a strong dude. If that's a bad ride, I need to see one if your good ones. Your power average was very good for that distance and you hauled butt.
There are not many guys (if any) on this thread who can hang with you if that was a slow day for you. I know I can't, not even on my best day!
Cheers
J
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J
Thanks for that. I appreciate it.
I am pretty sure I'm hitting my typical mid Summer wall right now. It happens every year but I was hoping this year would be different.
I have a few days off the bike planned so maybe that'll do the trick.
An FYI. Around here it's easier to hit good numbers - the roads are wide open - no red lights, virtually no traffic. Only the occasional free range cow stepping into your path to slow you down. :lol:
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I'd take that "crappy" ride over my best. I barely hit 16mph on a 50 mile ride.
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It looks like Shimano is coming up with Di2 6700. :thumb:
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Interesting day here. Andy Schleck is in town for a bit of training and promo for the US Pro Cycling Challenge.
http://www.usaprocyclingchallenge.com/ (http://www.usaprocyclingchallenge.com/)
The local Trek shop organized a ride along with Andy and around 250 riders showed up to pedal about 15 miles with him - I guess he would then proceed to drop everyone and get on with a training ride.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=50024)
That's him there in the Leopard/Trek kit up front.
Did I make the scene? No. :lol: I had my own training to do...
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106806668 (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/106806668)
A quick 2x20 effort to open up the legs for this weeks riding with a bunch of guys fresh from the Tour of Utah all getting a few local miles in for the big race and for me an opportunity to get in some real work before our big local stage race at the end of the month.
http://www.bikesteamboat.com/2011-steamboat-stage-race/latest-news/ (http://www.bikesteamboat.com/2011-steamboat-stage-race/latest-news/)
It's going to be a painful two weeks! :thumb:
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Hey guys, I hope everyone is doing well. I've been off my bike for a couple weeks. Busted out a hard 42 miles today and I think I'm having a heart attack. At least I did around mile 35 or so when we had to hustle home to beat nightfall. I've lost some fit fitness but hope to get it back soon.
Somehow I developed a pain in my foot again. Thankfully it only hurts when I ride...and when I laugh.
Cheers
Jack
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AB,
Very cool. Though I think the kid to the left may be able to put the hurt on Andy.
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Sorry to hear that Jack. Summer is eclipsing. Everyone should be pretty fit race wise. :lol:
Hey guys, I hope everyone is doing well. I've been off my bike for a couple weeks. Busted out a hard 42 miles today and I think I'm having a heart attack. At least I did around mile 35 or so when we had to hustle home to beat nightfall. I've lost some fit fitness but hope to get it back soon.
Somehow I developed a pain in my foot again. Thankfully it only hurts when I ride...and when I laugh.
Cheers
Jack
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AB,
Very cool. Though I think the kid to the left may be able to put the hurt on Andy.
Those kids are part of the Winter Sports Club here. Their Summer training consists of riding and racing coached by a group of seriously experienced folks.
On that day I was coming back in and spotted a group of riders up ahead in a pace line. I caught them and only realized it was a group of these kids and their coaches once I was even with them. They had all gone out with Schleck and were on their way back in too. Pretty cool to see these guys in the drops and hammering - at 9/10 years old.
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I had my 2nd fitting yesterday. It appears that I had been using my leg muscles in-efficiently. Needless to say, some drastic corrections were made. My seat post had to be raised almost an inch higher and forward. The bike felt different but comfortable.
After the fitting, I road 35miles. Now using different group of muscles. I felt a little slower soft pedaling on my regular route. However, power and speed increased when I am on it.
Maybe my muscles needs to get used to the new geometry? Hmmmm...
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I had my 2nd fitting yesterday. It appears that I had been using my leg muscles in-efficiently. Needless to say, some drastic corrections were made. My seat post had to be raised almost an inch higher and forward. The bike felt different but comfortable.
After the fitting, I road 35miles. Now using different group of muscles. I felt a little slower soft pedaling on my regular route. However, power and speed increased when I am on it.
Maybe my muscles needs to get used to the new geometry? Hmmmm...
Interesting. I've heard similar stories from other people. Did they change anything else? An inch is a lot to raise the post. Any cleat changes? I think mine are off because my right foot was really hurting on the last ride. I could not push off like normal because of the pain. Keep us posted. Also, I'd be curious to see your power numbers before and after on the same route.
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Having used the old setup for however long now, yes it will certainly feel a bit weird and will take your body a while to adjust and/or feel comfortable.
Many people rely on their quads for pedaling, wrong muscle group. This may be why the fitter changed your setup?
A tad surprised they raised the post a whole inch though. While not necessarily wrong, many suggest smaller increments when adjusting one's setup. How much did they push the saddle forward?
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Thanks guys for the input.
My mistake, saddle was moved back all the way to the point I may need a setback seat post.
Cleats moved back a few mm and stem moved up 2mm. It appears that I have been tweaking my own bike fit and was doing it without a good guidance. I can see that my mountain bike setup had to be changed as well.
Finally, my fitter told me I was over using my quads and my seats being too low was taxing my knee joints. He told me to give it a few weeks to become acclimated to the new position.
With the new fit, I can see doing 2-3MPH faster on the flats when I was locked in to the correct riding position (on the drop). Needless to say, getting a good fit is one of the best tweak one can do. :thumb:
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Hey guys! Just checking in on the thread to see how folks are doing. Jack, I hope you can get your foot / toe issue worked out. Riding hurts enough from tired muscles! AB, you're still too fast. I'm surprised Jack doesn't lock you out of this thread! LOL :lol:
Levi, reading your updates re: the fitting makes me think more and more about pulling the trigger.
Needless to say, getting a good fit is one of the best tweak one can do. :thumb:
Funny, I don't know why but that quote reminds me about how people talk about room treatments helping their audio systems. For some reason, these two things seem strangely analogous to me (and I've never spent any money on either :duh:)
Me, I've been riding still. I took it a bit light for a week after that MS ride, but I'm back on it now. Had a couple GFM (good for me!) rides this weekend. Once I get them off my Garmin, I'll post some links.
Jon
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Jon, think you bring a very valid anology.
Levi, seems like you are moving in the right direction. Glutes are the key.
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...and here they are:
Friday's ride (18.5mi / 19.3MPH avg):
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/108726885
Sunday's ride (~33mi / 19.0MPH avg):
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/108726880
Those are both pretty good rides for me. Both solo...
I'm going to try and get out tomorrow morning before work. I'll probably do that 18.5mi route again.
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Streaming Coverage of the USA Pro cycling Challenge...
http://shacktracker.usaprocyclingchallenge.com/ (http://shacktracker.usaprocyclingchallenge.com/)
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(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=50609)
This is my helmet... my head was in there when that happened...
I was riding my bike to work last Thursday morning and I crashed. It was a pretty big wipeout. As you can see, my helmet was cracked in a few places, but amazingly I didn't have a concussion. My right shoulder however is in rough shape, I have a nasty gouge in my right elbow, and a few other scrapes and bruises.
It was all my fault. I took a drink from my water bottle too close to an intersection I was approaching. Then I had a little trouble getting it back in the cage. In a rush to get two hands back on the bars so I could brake, I quickly looked down to get the water bottle sorted and my bike swerved just a bit to the right causing me to bump into the curb. And that was that... I went flying.
There were a number of cars at the intersection and not one person even rolled down their window to ask if I was OK.
I got a hold of my wife and she came and got me. I went to a nearby urgent care and got some xrays on my shoulder and it doesn't look like I've broken anything. Still, I have pretty limited use of my right arm at this point. We'll see how its feeling this week. I may end up going to an orthopedic doc to see if I damaged any internal parts that time alone wont fix.
I'm pretty ticked at myself. I should have been more careful. I'm normally a very good bike handler. Probably took that for granted. Hindsight 20/20 I suppose.... (I've fallen over w/ clip-in/out issues here and there, but I haven't crashed in almost 30years!)
I always wear my helmet. I couldn't imagine what would've happened had I not had it on.
I asked Bell if they wanted me to send the broken helmet to them. I guess if you send it to them after a crash, they may offer you some credit towards a new one. That would be nice.
I commute on an old aluminum Trek mountain bike (no suspension). Not a scratch on it that I've found yet. I don't think my road bike would have fared so well. I have no idea how I hit the front right edge of my helmet AND the back side of my right shoulder so hard. I'm glad I didn't break my collar bone, but I'm a bit worried about the soft tissue (ligaments, rotator cuff, tendons, etc.). Like I said, we'll see how it does this week. I'm not very patient w/ healing!
I am able to ride my spinning bike so that'll have to do for now. Sucks, as I had my best legs in years...
Be careful out there guys!
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Yow. Sorry to hear that. Curbs are S.O.Bs when you hit them.
I went down hard a few years ago in a MTB race and suffered a SLAP tear in my left shoulder. It hurt like hell and I couldn't hardly move it. I would expect that sort of injury if you felt lucky not to have broken your collar bone in the crash - that kind of fall that hard will do one or the other.
Or your head might have taken the brunt of the force and spared your shoulder. :o
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Wow Jon. Sorry to hear about the crash. It happens to the best of us. Thank goodness for wearing a good helmet. Take it easy.
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Wow! I'm glad you are okay. Thankfully you had a helmet. This is why I always wear mine. Sometimes I feel stupid when I'm just making a short trip, but you never know when you will hit the pavement. Let us know what's going on with that shoulder.
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Jon,
Wow, I'll ditto the others. Very glad you seem to be reasonably ok. Scary stuff.
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Thanks for the get well wishes guys... We all know this hobby is arguably a bit riskier than most, but I didn't need to demonstrate that to myself! :duh:
I'll keep you posted on my progress. Of course, you guys will have to make-up for my miles though. Another 20/wk from each of you ought to get us pretty close! LOL
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Levi,
How is the new position coming along? Thanks.
Jeff
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Hi Jeff,
Thanks for asking. I haven't been riding because I had a surgery. Gallbladder deleted. :oops:
Hopefully, I get to ride in 3-weeks.
--Levi
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I had that part deleted a few years ago. You won't miss it. It may take a few months for your body to adjust tho. Of course having belly scars that make it look like you've been in a knife fight is fun! LOL
Get well soon!
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I appreciate the info. Thanks Jon!
I had that part deleted a few years ago. You won't miss it. It may take a few months for your body to adjust tho. Of course having belly scars that make it look like you've been in a knife fight is fun! LOL
Get well soon!
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I appreciate the info. Thanks Jon!
No problem Levi :wink:
Hopefully you can get better in time to enjoy some more warm weather riding yet. (then again, do I recall seeing pics of you riding in very cold weather last winter?)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Cunningham%20Park/010.jpg)
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Levi,
Had shoulder surgery two weeks ago, not the dreaded rotator cuff, but it hurts like a son of a gun and the doc said the bone spurs most likely came from 25 years of bicycle touring. I always lead and lean on my left. So, I am dusting off my Bacchetta recumbent to doctor's orders, and then we'll see if I can outfit my touring and road bike with more upright 'bars. But please no 'old man's bars'. :oops:
Lyndon
Had the gall bladder taken out this spring as well. No knife like scars. Very small. :thumb:
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Thanks for the well wishes Jon. I ride all-year-round. It will be long sleeves season by the time I get on my bike. During my hiatus, I have cleaned and polished my bike(s), spin the wheels once in a while so I can hear the ratchet. :lol:
Lyndon, get well soon!
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Hey guys, I hope you both get well soon! I'm going for a ride in about ten minutes but it's going to be 95F today and I don't know how far I will get. Keep us posted on your recovery!
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Thanks Jack. Enjoy the nice warm weather.
Riding immediately after the Retul fitting gives me the impression of speed and power. I had been using the wrong groups of muscles for awhile. Hopefully, when I get back on the saddle that I can start working on the new muscle groups.
Here are a few pictures of the Retul fitting.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Retul%20fitting/02a98acb.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Retul%20fitting/52b54984.jpg)
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If you are into DIY and want to extend the life of your ceramic bearings, then we are probably in the same camp. ;D
Bottom bracket like any other bearings in our bicycle requires some maintenance after several hundred hours of use. That is if you want them to continue working smoothly and quietly. Servicing your bottom bracket is a simple process that can be easy and rewarding with the correct tools. It requires removal of outboard bearing cups and extraction of bearing from the cups. That is all there is to it.
Tools and supplies that I used for this simple project:
Park Tool BBT9 - Bottom Bracket and Crank Arm Tool (http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/ProductDisplay?storeId=10052&langId=-1&catalogId=10551&productId=1030472&utm_source=Google_Product_Search&utm_medium=cse&utm_campaign=datafeed&CAWELAID=859291201)
Degreaser
Rags
Enduro Bottom Bracket Tool (http://www.enduroforkseals.com/id114.html)
Torque wrench(s)
Jewelry cleaner
small pick (to remove bearing seals)
Lightweight bearing grease
Here is also an excellent link from Park Tool on servicing external bottom brackets (http://www.parktool.com/blog/repair-help/external-bearing-crank-systems-hollowtech-ii-megaexo-giga-x-pipe-x-type-campagnolo-ultra-torque)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Tools/Enduro%20BB%20Tool/8fd96783.jpg)
Once the outboard bearing were removed from the bike, the Enduro bearing puller can be used to extract the bearing from the cups
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Tools/Enduro%20BB%20Tool/43a5fe95.jpg)
Bottom bracket inside the tool
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Tools/Enduro%20BB%20Tool/7b6f32d8.jpg)
Bearing extracted 8-)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Tools/Enduro%20BB%20Tool/947a96a2.jpg)
Remove bearing seals and put them in the jewelry cleaner for thorough cleaning
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Tools/Enduro%20BB%20Tool/8aeb615b.jpg)
Bearing cleaned and ready for re-assembly
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Tools/Enduro%20BB%20Tool/b70f230e.jpg)
Re assembly of bearing
Installation is the reverse of removal.
Once you have completed servicing the bottom bracket bearings, rest assured that you will have many more hours from your bearings. 8-) By using the correct tools, servicing your bearings can be fun and rewarding.
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That was an interesting read Levi. Thxs!
I've never pulled apart a bottom bracket. I'm sure both my bikes could benefit from some TLC in that area.... I maybhave to give that a shot. I don't think I'll find any ceramic bearings on my bikes tho! ;)
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Thanks John.
Just an FYI, Shimano uses 25x37x7 bearings. If one is to upgrade hint ceramic, Enduro 24x37x7 (Enduro MR2437) bearings is the upgrade. ;) The difference in 1mm in this tight tolerance provides outstanding advantage compared to the stock Shimi bearings.
That is correct, regular cups can be retrofitted with ceramic bearings for stealth look and savings. Unless you want a different colored bottom bracket.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Hope%20BB/IMG_7572.jpg)
Shimano printed DO NOT DISSASSEMBLE on their cups.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/Hope%20BB/IMG_7574.jpg)
Upon DISASSEMBLY, no explosion or smoke...it sure looks like any other bearing. :lol:
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Toronto is a relatively bike friendly city with lots of city installed posts for locking your bikes to and a growing number of bike lanes. There are a very large number of bike commuters I have found. Toronto is also relatively flat. However, bike theft is a real issue. I did not want to lock up one of my nice bikes and invite such.
I recently picked up this guy:
(http://s7d4.scene7.com/is/image/TrekBicycleProducts/11558?wid=1490&hei=1080&fit=fit,1&fmt=png-alpha&qlt=80,1&op_usm=0,0,0,0&iccEmbed=0)
Trek's Earl, steel single speed urban bike. Perfect for hopping over to my local pub, running an errand or cruising through the neighborhoods. Its pretty fun to ride.
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I ride on the American River bike trail in Sacramento. It is a green belt and flood plain in an urban setting. The trail runs 30+ miles and the upper terminus is a man-made reservoir that receives the three forks of the American River. The area between the forks is wild and extends to Desolation Wilderness in the Sierra Nevada mountains by Lake Tahoe.
Greetings, I live in Sacatomato and I ride the American River Bike Trail too. The official name is the Jedediah Smith Memorial Trail, 32 miles long. Typically I ride from Arden to the fish hatchery and back. I was looking at your ride, what groupo is that? I can tell it's Campagnolo, but beyond that I don't know.
My most memorable animal sightings are deer, including some big ones that like to come out in the evening. I came across a rattlesnake once. Felt like running it over, but was unsure if it would be a good idea or not. No sense messing up some straight rims. LOL
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cf/American_River_Bike_Trail_at_Fair_Oaks.jpg)
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If you are into DIY and want to extend the life of your ceramic bearings, then we are probably in the same camp. By using the correct tools, servicing your bearings can be fun and rewarding.
You certainly do a thorough job. One wouldn't absolutely need a "Jewelry Cleaner" to get the job done. I soak and scrub all my dirty greasy parts in a plastic oil drain pan. I use mineral spirits and a brush. Rinse and repeat as necessary, then blow the parts dry with an air compressor. An oil drain pan has the advantage of accommodating larger components such as a chain or crank.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=52333)
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Have been enjoying the Earl. Its fun getting around town on the SS. Get a bit of exercise and don't have to worry about parking.
Josh
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Hey Josh, nice to hear from you. Glad you are still riding despite the impeding cold weather.
Don't forget to install bike lights. ;)
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its been pretty nice here...went mountain biking last weekend and plan to this weekend if it doesn't rain.
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It is 26deg F here. That is without wind because we are in the woods.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/TrailviewTourIII.jpg)
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Not sure if I like it...Beyond black scheme. Happy New Year! :thumb:
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Zipp%20Beyond%20Black/39a75e16.jpg)
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Not sure if you like it? Are you crazy??? That bike with the Zipps is the sex! Of course, I'd look silly at the back of the pack with such a fast looking bike!
I've been bad but I'm back on the trainer doing my CTS intervals. It's murder but I'm trying my best to get back in the pack. My group got very fast and I got slow and lazy. That's a story for another day.
Congrats on the nice wheels. They are my favorite. Comp cyclist had the 404's on sale earlier this month but I passed. I don't deserve those wheels!
Cheers and happy holidays.
Jack
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Good to hear you are back in the saddle Jack. Me and Phil are doing the Gran Fondo New York so had to keep riding. Well not that I had to, just want to. :)
How's the weather in Chicago?
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It's pretty nice for December. My group had been riding every day. I put my trainer tire on the bike and I'm too lazy to change it.
Your bike is looking good. It looks fast standnig still, like a Ferrari.
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Thanks. Too bad I don't have a Ferrari legs and Lungs. :lol:
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Half way through February already! I hope all my fellow northerners have need working hard on thier trainers, and those who can comfortably enjoy the outdoors are getting after it. I was a bit lazy/busy around Christmas, but I've been pretty good for the past month or so. I have an old Schwinn spinning bike in my basement. Its a little thin on data, but I can get a pretty good idea of my fitness by where my knob is :lol:
Its actually been the most mild winter that I can remember. I certainly have had some opportunities to get outside on the bike that I've let slip by. The days are getting a bit longer now however, so I think in the next couple weeks I'll start dabbling in commuting to work. That gets me two 13mi rides / day. Speaking of which, for Christmas Santa got me a Topeak rack:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41S7AFQ3QJL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
... and a trunk bag:
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41hxA6ZpIJL._SL500_AA300_.jpg)
The bag slides into a track in the rack and snaps in place. No straps or anything to worry about. Handy since I'll need to detach it before and after every ride. It also has these flop down sides that act like mini-panniers.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51tlO5MXXrL._AA300_.jpg)
We'll see how it is to use. It has to be better than using a backpack all the time like last year (think hot back). I use my old (circa 1993) aluminum Trek mountain bike (no shocks) for commuting duties. Its a good sturdy bike for this job. Even has the bosses I needed for the rack. Last year I put some smaller semi-smooth tires on it. Also got some SPD MTB pedals (two sided clip-in is nice on busy roads) and some shoes from Performance Bike. I did not like fiddling around with toe clips. I also bought myself a bar-end mirror and some lights.
Inspired by Levi, I recently purchased some tools so I could do some work on my bikes. I have worked on my cars over the years and I do no end of stuff to my house, but I've never really done much to my bikes short of cleaning the chain and adjusting things here and there. Both my bikes are pretty old, so I'm anxious to take some things apart and see how the bits are fairing. Plus, I always kinda like knowing how things work / go together (I'm a mechanical engineer (surprise :wink: ).
Well, that's prob enough of my babbling for now! Take it easy guys!
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I was actually thinking of outfitting my bike like above and commuting that way. Roundabout how much was that bag setup would you say?
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The rack is $28 on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/Topeak-63107030-Explorer-Bike-Rack/dp/B000FIE3WI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1329603339&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.com/Topeak-63107030-Explorer-Bike-Rack/dp/B000FIE3WI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1329603339&sr=8-3)). I was fortunate in that the bike I use for commuting happened to have all the mounting bosses to make for an easy install. With my road bike I would've been outta luck. Well, actually I believe they have a seat post mounted version of that rack as well.
They have several bags that fit onto that rack. I have the DXP bag and it runs $70 (http://www.amazon.com/Topeak-63107030-Explorer-Bike-Rack/dp/B000FIE3WI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1329603339&sr=8-3 (http://www.amazon.com/Topeak-63107030-Explorer-Bike-Rack/dp/B000FIE3WI/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1329603339&sr=8-3)). It all depends on what you need to back I suppose. I generally need to pack lunch and clothes. Toiletries and shoes I leave at work (always black shoes on commuting days!).
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Thanks for that! I live in a very cycle-centric place (Redmond, Wa) and I'm starting a new job next month, they actually have showers in the building so people can commute by bike and I plan on taking advantage.
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Spring is here, at least it has started here in Indy. Anyone back out on the road? Any new items added over the winter?
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Not much new equipment wise. Working on shedding the effects of Winter Holidays on the body.
How about you?
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We have had a very mild winter here in the south. I have ridden every weekend since last Thanksgiving averaging about 80 miles per weekend. I have already ridden a hilly 80 miler this year with Spring BRAT just ahead at mid April.
A heavy work schedule will prevent me form riding the 422 mile Natchez Trace this year, but I hope to complete it next year.
Still riding a Sram Force/Red equipped Lynskey R430
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Hey Levi,
Hope all is well. Picked up a few small things over the winter. Zipp stem and bars. Going to test out a Toupe saddle too.
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I like those Zipp stem and bars!
My new toy just arrived!
I figured need to post some updates here. 8-)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/2012%20SRAM%20Red%20brakes/d2ec68ec.jpg)
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Anyone back out on the road?
Back on the road? I never left! I started commuting by bike again early last fall (20 mi. round trip) and continued right through the very mild "winter" we had here in the Wash DC area. I'm already over 1100 miles for 2012, all but 200 of those are commuting miles.
I use a hybrid bike for the commute, but finally got a proper road bike a month ago -- a Cannondale Synapse Alloy 5. But I've only been on it for 35 miles, because I don't want to use it for the commute, and my weekends have been very busy. But that should end soon, hopefully.
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I like those Zipp stem and bars!
My new toy just arrived!
I figured need to post some updates here. 8-)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/2012%20SRAM%20Red%20brakes/d2ec68ec.jpg)
Hey Levi, how do you like them SRAM reds? I personally am not really impressed with their lower end stuff, not that I can afford any better. Pathetically, how I said it before, my older Campy mirage stuff that came with my old steel Bianchi Eros 1996 is head and shoulders about the crapper that came with my Specialized Allez Comp APEX(APEX of sheet) in my books. Oh, btw, the more expensive Force stuff is butta smooth in my Cyclocross rig. I thought that the DuraAce is a much better kit than the SRAM....but that is what I think.
Anyone into steel? I love the feel of it under my butt but I do not appreciate the weight in comparison to my Al frames. Now, mind you, that the only experience I have is my old 24.5 lbs steel Bianchi...but, ah, so smooth of a ride!
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/2012%20SRAM%20Red%20brakes/2496ffc7.jpg)
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I think SRAM is getting better and better. They learned lots from acquiring Zipp Speed Weaponry. It is evident in their new 2012/13 SRAM Red Aero link brakes. I love it.
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Is it Spring yet? Hey guys, I'm loving this thread again. Levi, cool looking bike!
A bike dealer friend of mine was selling some new 404 Firecrest clinchers for $1,300 and they sold before I could post on this site. He also had 808's for $1,600 but they also sold quickly. I'm glad they sold because I was about to buy them...
SRAM makes great stuff. I've ridden Force and Rival and they shift beautifully when set up properly. I currently Red shifters, front and rear DR's and they are awesome. The new front DR is supposed to be even better and their brakes are very good. Honestly, I prefer the feel of Shimano brakes but like the way my SRAM REd shifts much better than the latest Dura Ace. Di2 is still tops in my book but I'm not sure I want batteries to ride my bike. I tried the new Ultegra Di2 and it is absolute magic. I'd trade my Red for it in a minute but it's a moot point because there is zero chance anyone would make that trade. Di2 is like magic.
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I must agree with Jackman on the shifting abilities of Sram. Infact Jackman's recommendation to add Red shifters with Force was my upgrade over the winter.
Last week, I visited my LBS, and thay had a new 2012 equipped Sram bike on the floor. The owner offered me a demo ride, and I must say the new Red powertrain is by the smoothest yet. Great stuff!
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No new gear here but I have been riding a lot.
Here's this mornings effort.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/162208416 (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/162208416)
Some climbing then out to the flats.
There are a few big fires burning so the air is pretty nasty. My nose is running and I'm sneezing every few minutes.
It's been a pretty mild Spring here but super dry and windy.
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Personally, I'm a fan of Sram. As I am of Campy too. It all works well. Not sure one is any better than the other, just personal preference. Levers fit some hands better than others, some like the lighter feel of Shimano, others like the more modular feeling of Campy brakes. All personal. As is it with those who like carbon fiber, to those who like steel or titanium.
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I just received an email from http://granfondony.com/ ...
Entry fee comes with a nice Giordana GFNY jersey and this bag + more swags!
Hey Paul, you can still join me and Phil. I think your Italian Bike will feel right at home here. :thumb:
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/2b77db5a.jpg)
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Looks like a lot of fun Levi. You'll need to trade that Cervelo in on a Ciocc, Coppi, or a Casati. ;)
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I don't mind getting Ciocc $upremo. :)
Looks like a lot of fun Levi. You'll need to trade that Cervelo in on a Ciocc, Coppi, or a Casati. ;)
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I like those Zipp stem and bars!
My new toy just arrived!
While I'm envious of some of the bicycles a few of you guys ride, whenever I visit a bike shop and squeeze down hard on the brakes of some of the newer bicycles, I'm often disappointed. I mean like are they all supposed to be squishy, mushy?
I have a pair of older calipers that I think I'll continue to keep. Though not quite as panache as some of the newer stuff, these oldies are quite solid, very firm when you squeeze down on them. One of the few calipers sets that actually have tiny ball bearings instead of bushings.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=60443)
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Nothing wrong with Superbe Pro. Back in the day it was as good(if not better) than Dura Ace or Record.
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In my opinion, it doesn't matter if you have the most expensive brakes out there, if they are not setup correctly it does not feel right.
While I'm envious of some of the bicycles a few of you guys ride, whenever I visit a bike shop and squeeze down hard on the brakes of some of the newer bicycles, I'm often disappointed. I mean like are they all supposed to be squishy, mushy?
I have a pair of older calipers that I think I'll continue to keep. Though not quite as panache as some of the newer stuff, these oldies are quite solid, very firm when you squeeze down on them. One of the few calipers sets that actually have tiny ball bearings instead of bushings.
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In my opinion, it doesn't matter if you have the most expensive brakes out there, if they are not setup correctly it does not feel right.
That's not opinion, that's fact.
I caught a picture of Lance Armstrong in a magazine, riding something from who knows back when. Anyway one thing instantly caught my eye, he had a mix of old and new technology, the rear derailleur was shifted via the brake lever on the handlebars, but he had an old school downtube shift lever for his front derailleur! An unexpected combination.
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AE - that must have been an old picture. When integrated shifters were first invented several pro's still used downtube shifters for their front DR's because they could trim them more precisely and save weight as well.
This is no longer the case. Modern front shifters work better than anything In the past (okay, some people hated Red until recently because the Ti was flexy but not in my experience).
I love nostalgia, and there is a true elegance to some if that old Campy gear, but a properly set up pro level Campy, SRAM or Shimano system is lighter, crisper shifting and, IMO, superior to anything Eddy Mercx, Lemond or any of the greats were using back in the day.
I'm not sure if you just squeezed brake levers or actually tested a properl tuned new bike but if you actually test a new setup, I think you are going to be in for a surprise and a treat. The new designs from the big three perform beautifully. I suspect you will not want to go back to the old design!
Just a hunch...
Cheers,
Jack
PS - I'm not saying the new designs will make you faster. Better shifting, breaking and lighter weight make riding more enjoyable but can only take you so far. I get passed all the time by older guys riding antiques. Bastards...
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I'm not sure if you just squeezed brake levers or actually tested a properly tuned new bike but if you actually test a new setup, I think you are going to be in for a surprise and a treat. The new designs from the big three perform beautifully. I suspect you will not want to go back to the old design!
Only one thing, I'd have to redo the brakes and cables, I prefer my front brake controlled by my right hand.
I've test ridden a few of the newer ones, I just don't have $8K to shell out.
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Pic of last years Stage 2 of the Amgen Tour of California, last lap around the state capitol. It was raining that day, intermittently, which is kind of unusual for Sacramento in the month of May.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=60453)
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Awesome picture AE! I'm getting ready to go for a ride by myself. My group has gotten too fast for me, I gained ten pounds and, no excuses, started smoking cigarettes again.
Not smoking as much as I was before I started cycling but I need to quit. This is a very embarrassing admission but any moral support from my friends is always appreciated. Very disappointing because I quit for a long time and was doing well.
In my former group, there were a few guys who always had the latest gear. New custom Ti and cf frames every year or two, Zipp wheels and Dura Ace or Red grouppos. There are other guys with modest bikes and old kits. It's cubby because some of the fastest guys are the ones with modest rides. One of the fastest guys rides an aluminum Giant wih stock - old! - Shimano wheels and 105 components including a triple, and ancient Look pedals. The slowest guy (not including me!) rides a beautiful Colnago with Campy Super Record and Zipp 303 tubulars. There is less of a connection between expensive gear and speed. Fit is very important and everyone in the group puts a lot of effort into getting a good fit but you can't buy speed, you have to earn it. I need get out and earn a bit today.
Cheers
J
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Hey Jack, glad you are not afraid to admit that you went back to smoking. Must have been stressful winter for you. Hopefully, the more you ride the less you will smoke cigs. I also agree that buying speed can only get you so far. At least new toys is a great motivational tool to ride more instead of sitting in front of the speakers. LOL!
AE It was a surprise you like right-front brakes. Brits are the only people that I know who like right-front brakes/shifters like motorcycles.
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AE It was a surprise you like right-front brakes. Brits are the only people that I know who like right-front brakes/shifters like motorcycles.
Ever try squeezing the front brake with only one hand on the handlebar? I did it once (young, dumb) and proceeded to fall real hard. Ended up with a fresh slice of hot pizza mushed into my chest, jacket. Anyway, I commuted to High School on a 10 speed, I would carry or hold items with my right hand and steer-brake with my left hand. It was certainly much better to use the rear brake when having only one hand on the handlebar. My left hand has always been my dominant driving hand, just like when I'm behind the wheel of an automobile. Left hand on the wheel and right hand on the gear shift lever. Having the rear brake on the left hand leaves my right hand free for other things, shifting, water bottle etc, and I can still apply the brake if I need to.
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We definitely have different riding style. I have squeezed the brakes with one hand on-road and off-road. Even on a 6hr races when I am completely depleted. Good brake setup allows you to modulate the brakes instead of on or off. Like in a car, I can still eat or drink coffee even with a stick shift. I guess I am ambidextrous.
Cheers!
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Hey Jack,
Hope all is well. As they say, the first step is admission. ;)
Do it for the pooch in the picture. Let alone your son. Enough of the Dad routine.
As with you, I've put my far share of winter weight on. The older I get, the less motivated I am to keep fit during the winter. Can come up with all kinds of excuses - work, cold weather, tired, it's dark, etc. Even today, it was nice out today, should have gone on a ride, but yard work and few other projects were less output. Which really does not make much sense, considering how I feel when I am in shape vs. the fat a** feeling I have now.
Levi - how do you like the brakes? Believe they went with a single pivot?
Stay safe out there all.
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I truly love the new red brakes. It is soft touch, extremely powerful but is easy to modulate = less finger fatigue. Perfect when you are doing long descents. You simply don't need the power of your fingers to stop.
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Thanks guys. I didn't want to admit my backslide but felt it would be dishonest to speak about getting back into shape without mentioning my foray back into cigarettes.
Regarding brakes, I like a well modulated brake system and have no problem applying the brakes with one hand. There is a pretty famous racer around here who only has one arm. He's really fast and has amazing core strength. I've seen him whiz by me several times. It's quite a sight!
Good luck guys. I'm never going to preach to anyone because I have enough of my own problems to worry about.
Levi - those new Red brakes are sexy! SRAM new stuff is really cool looking but very expensive. I hope my old Red kit lasts a long time.
Cheers and ride safe!
Jack
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I truly love the new red brakes. It is soft touch, extremely powerful but is easy to modulate = less finger fatigue. Perfect when you are doing long descents. You simply don't need the power of your fingers to stop.
Brake pads are just as important too, just like with a car, if they overheat, poof.
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A recent addition. Bought as a frame, so it is not built up yet. Other than the wheels, should look similar though as I am leaning toward a mixture of Centaur/Chorus/Record stuff which I have laying around.
Better picture when built.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=61099)
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Has anyone tried a mirror that attaches to your helmet? I've had basically every bike-attached mirror, and they either wiggle free over bumps (so that they're unusable) or I hit them while my bike is on the rack and ruin them. I'm thinking maybe a helmet mirror may actually work.
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As for brakes, I think the next bike I buy is going to have disc brakes. They (racing/touring style bikes) are hard to find, though. Rim brakes are OK if everything is new, but run a rim long enough (which really isn't that long) and the brakes begin to have problems, especially in the rain. I find in the rain, I can slow down, but I cannot stop. I'm hoping disc brakes would fix that problem, assuming the tires can keep up with the brakes.
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Here on vacation in Naples Fl riding with the Naples Velo group. Naples Velo has a different group ride for every day of the week. There are some really hard rides with unlimited speeds, ripping out of the corners,etc., and some nice tempo rides limited to 25mph. For me coming from New England, the land of hills and bad weather I am always taken aback at how fit these guys are down here. If you get a chance it's well worth it to take a ride with Naples Velo.
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Hey guys! Sounds like everyone is enjoying the start of the bike season. Interesting discussion on brakes. Along the lines of what ctviggen was saying, yeah, I think traditional brakes as we know them will be done within the next ten years. For obvious reasons, disc brakes quickly became defecto on mountain bikes. And many of those advantages apply to road bikes as well. Without question disc brakes are a 'better idea', but it will be interesting to see how manufacturers deal with the increased weight. And how wheel manufacturers can take advantage of not having to worry about providing braking surfaces.
ctviggen, I think I mentioned earlier somewhere that I put a mirror on my commuter bike this year (converted mountain bike). The one I got mounts into the end of the handlebar. I'll shoot a pic of it this weekend so you can see how I have it oriented. I actually have it pointed downward so it's less conspiquous and gets knocked around a little less. It's been a while since I've had a mirror on my bike, and I find myself really liking it. I can see when people are back behind me without having to swing my head around. Especially handy when I'm 10in from the curb. On rough roads it does bounce / vibrate a bit, but it usually doesn't last too long. I'm going to have to figure out how to get one on my road bike. I've not tried a helmet mirror.
Ladydog, that's going to be a cool looking bike! Good luck with the build.
Jack, good luck with kicking that habit. I always find my worst habits kick in at times when I'm under more stress. Once you get into riding again hopefully it will be easier.
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As for brakes, I think the next bike I buy is going to have disc brakes. They (racing/touring style bikes) are hard to find, though. Rim brakes are OK if everything is new, but run a rim long enough (which really isn't that long) and the brakes begin to have problems, especially in the rain. I find in the rain, I can slow down, but I cannot stop. I'm hoping disc brakes would fix that problem, assuming the tires can keep up with the brakes.
Someone else on another forum was saying the same thing, especially since he lives in Oregon. His hopes are to get a Soma with disc brakes.
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I ride with a mirror like this. It fastens to my riding/sport eyeglasses. Surprisingly durable. I can rotate my head a little and change the view.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Wt3dtTpRL._SS500_.gif)
One brand:
(http://gg1.teamestrogen.com/ri/300/300/pre_8_4_08/PP-100TAL.jpg)
Has anyone tried a mirror that attaches to your helmet? I've had basically every bike-attached mirror, and they either wiggle free over bumps (so that they're unusable) or I hit them while my bike is on the rack and ruin them. I'm thinking maybe a helmet mirror may actually work.
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Helmet mirrors can work but I don't like the look. A friend of mine uses the mirrors that attach to the holes at the bottom of your handlebars. They are pretty cool and work well enough to spot cars or other riders, but you have to look down to be able to use them.
Even though helmet mirrors are ultra-geeky looking, it's a small price to pay for safety. Let us know what works out for you and maybe someone will benefit from your experience.
Cheers,
J
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I won't be much of a help since I don't use mirrors. I simply look back.
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Anyone need some top-level wheels? Have some I need to clear out. PM me.
1 clincher - Campy, White Industries hubs, IRD rims, 28h
1 tubular - Shimano, Edge/Enve 1.38 rims, King hubs(mango), 28h
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I need to find the ride here... d/t GTA is not exactly road bike friendly...its bike friendly but I have a steel frame single speed for that.
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Good time to buy Josh. Just like the stereo and house industry. Have a few contacts, so let me know what you may be looking for and I'll see if I can assist.
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I need to find the ride here... d/t GTA is not exactly road bike friendly...its bike friendly but I have a steel frame single speed for that.
Josh, are you going to be a hipster on a fixie? :scratch:
Just kidding, I am glad to hear that you are still riding. I'm looking for a Xcross bike and will post pictures on this thread if I pull the trigger. Several guys in my group are riding xross bikes and I'd like to get something soon. I'm too old, fat and my knees are not up for a single speed!
Cheers,
J
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Hey Jack,
Drop me a line if you decide to pursue cross. Might be able to assist.
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Got my bike back three days ago and have been starting small, three days of thirty milers.
I live at the very tail end of the Sammamish River Trail which then becomes the Burke Gillman Trail here in Washington. Basically it's a 30 mile bike trail through a lush river valley, which then arcs up around the tip of Lake Washington, down through UW district, Gasworks Park, Seattle, eventually Golden Gardens beach. Pretty soon I'll be riding it round trip a couple times a week, again.
Nothing quite like no stoplights or cars, just other cyclists, for endless miles. Love it here.
Matter of fact, I'm about to put another 20 miles in today. Gonna be a while before I'm in shape enough to blast the whole thing.
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Just finished kitting out my bike for commuting/touring via the REI sale going on now. Got lights, reflectors, mud flaps, luggage rack, luggage... my bike has never had it so good.
The big score was the mudflaps. I never see anyone with these and they are so amazing on a rainy day. As long as you wear a good jacket, your shoes and pants, face, backside, all stay dry and free of spatter. No more blinding flecks of road grime for this guy. Helps protect the chain from grime too.
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That's good to know.
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Bout to go for a test cruise. It's nice and soggy today.
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Where do you live? UK or somewhere in Europe?
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Redmond Wa. Byciclist heaven. Ahh just made it to the record shop. :thumb: I got a list.
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I ride with a mirror like this. It fastens to my riding/sport eyeglasses. Surprisingly durable. I can rotate my head a little and change the view.
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Wt3dtTpRL._SS500_.gif)
One brand:
(http://gg1.teamestrogen.com/ri/300/300/pre_8_4_08/PP-100TAL.jpg)
I've used the "Take-A-Look" for years. I'm basically blind in my left eye so it's out of necessity, geek factor be damned. It's mounted on the right side of my Bolle's. Yes, it can be adjusted to see just fine mounted on the non road side of your glasses. Got the little "Take-A-Look" tip from a very serious female road cyclist years ago who also had blindness in her left eye.
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Just finished kitting out my bike for commuting/touring via the REI sale going on now. Got lights, reflectors, mud flaps, luggage rack, luggage... my bike has never had it so good.
The big score was the mudflaps. I never see anyone with these and they are so amazing on a rainy day. As long as you wear a good jacket, your shoes and pants, face, backside, all stay dry and free of spatter. No more blinding flecks of road grime for this guy. Helps protect the chain from grime too.
I'm a big mud flap/fender fan - they also make it nicer to ride with others in the wet. I'm a retro kind of guy, so I went with leather/metal combo.
(http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bunnyma357/IMG_1214.jpg)
Jim C
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I'm a big mud flap/fender fan - they also make it nicer to ride with others in the wet. I'm a retro kind of guy, so I went with leather/metal combo.
Jim C
Looking at your pic, I can't help but wonder (serious doubts) if your ride is set up "properly." I can see your saddle is nose high, tilted back too much, which is usually considered to be a no-no. Must be doing wonders for your prostate, unless you don't have a prostate. Of course you'll likely reply that you like it that way. Compared to you handlebars, your saddle also looks like it's way too low, either that or your frame isn't the ideal size. Maybe one day you'll stop in at your local bike shop and have them look at your riding ergonomics, your positioning in the cockpit, always good to get a professional opinion.
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Lots lot people with Brooks saddles use them slightly pitched up. Those saddles have a cult following. I'm not sure about the fit but it looks like its set up for touring. My bars are lower than my saddle but I could use a bit more flexibility. I have not spent much time in he drops this time of year.
It's too hot in Chicago this week and I've been riding indoors. Torture but it's better than no riding at all. My motivation is slowly coming back. Sick of being fat and slow.
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Looking at your pic, I can't help but wonder (serious doubts) if your ride is set up "properly." I can see your saddle is nose high, tilted back too much, which is usually considered to be a no-no. Must be doing wonders for your prostate, unless you don't have a prostate. Of course you'll likely reply that you like it that way. Compared to you handlebars, your saddle also looks like it's way too low, either that or your frame isn't the ideal size. Maybe one day you'll stop in at your local bike shop and have them look at your riding ergonomics, your positioning in the cockpit, always good to get a professional opinion.
As jackman noted, it is set up for touring/commuting/randoneuring - the camera angle makes the seat looks a little more nose up than it is, but many believe the proper fit is with the nose of the saddle up. Current fit by pros tends to focus on performance and racing, rather than comfort - so, in the past the "pros" have created a horrible fit when I initially used them. I prefer to do my own research and pick what works for me - much like I do with audio.
After a short break-in period the leather saddle forms to the rider and there are no pressure points - modern saddles and fitting techniques all caused me substantial numbness and pain.
The fit of the bike is based on a lot of research and trial and error and adjustment - in general for my riding style the fitting philosophy prior to the mid 1980's is far superior to most of the current "pro" fitting methods. Of course, if I were a racer my opinion would probably differ greatly.
Here's a few links to the general philosophy, although I don't agree with everything - but between this and Sheldon Brown's site there is a lot of great info for "alternative" or as I see it"classic" fitting:
http://www.rivbike.com/Articles.asp?ID=247
http://sheldonbrown.com/frame-sizing.html
Jim C
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Current fit by pros tends to focus on performance and racing, rather than comfort -
Jim C
Ergonomics is about more than just efficiency. Avoiding strain and repetitive stress injuries is even more important, especially at our age.
Brooks saddles are wonderful, I'd like one on titanium rails, maybe one day. I currently ride on a Terry men's Fly Ti (ergonomic), more comfortable than any other saddle I've ever ridden with no numbness or dumbness.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=63160)
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I'm a big mud flap/fender fan - they also make it nicer to ride with others in the wet. I'm a retro kind of guy, so I went with leather/metal combo.
(http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bunnyma357/IMG_1214.jpg)
Jim C
I actually prefer the plastic flaps that come straight back and dont hug the tire like the metal ones. Cheaper too.
Nice looking bike!
I've been commuting daily and it's about the most pleasant thing ever, rain or shine. Tomorrow I'm going to pull everything off and do a workout, hoping to hit 35 miles this time. Getting back into shape slowly.
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Ergonomics is about more than just efficiency. Avoiding strain and repetitive stress injuries is even more important, especially at our age.
Brooks saddles are wonderful, I'd like one on titanium rails, maybe one day. I currently ride on a Terry men's Fly Ti (ergonomic), more comfortable than any other saddle I've ever ridden with no numbness or dumbness.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=63160)
The one counter-intuitive thing about having the saddle nose slightly more up than the rear, is that for a rider like me, it removes any pressure on the prostate - since you end up sitting firmly on the back of the saddle on your sit bones. There is actually less contact and pressure from the nose of the saddle than when the saddle is level or tilted down.
Jim C
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My buddy is convincing me I need a fixed gear bike to really get into shape. Any of you ride one?
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My buddy is convincing me I need a fixed gear bike to really get into shape. Any of you ride one?
I have a fixie conversion - most fun bike I own. It's also the fastest for me, since you have to sprint up the hills, rather than drop into an easier gear & spin. You really learn a lot about how to manage the terrain to maximize your momentum - plus you develop a great spin keeping up on the downhills. It's my bike of choice for everything, but mountain biking or road riding in serious mountains - works fine for rolling hills and moderate climbs.
It's really easy to convert older bikes with horizontal dropouts - so it can be a very inexpensive thing to try. Mine would make the bike messengers cringe, since I kept both front & rear brakes.
Added benefits I hadn't planned on:
- It totally recaptures the spirit of being a kid & just getting on your bike & riding
- It's silent - no clicking pawls - makes for much more meditative riding
- Requires practically zero maintenance
- No coasting is actually more enjoyable
- You learn how to really use the handle bars for leverage to help in transferring force to the pedals on climbs - probably would translate well to improving sprinting skills
Just be careful with doing maintenance - it is possible to lose a finger tip, if you get it stuck between the cog & chain - it won't stop like a freewheel. Not something that is likely to happen, you just need to have some awareness, and avoid distractions.
Jim C
(http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bunnyma357/IMG_1213.jpg)
And here is the same bike from a few posts ago when I had it set up as a fixie.
(http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo346/bunnyma357/IMG_0211.jpg)
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Fixed gear bikes are fun but I've got bad knees and grinding big gears is not worth the pain for me. I've tried single speed bikes but think I'll stick with my gears. Even with the relatively small hills around here, I appreciate gears.
My next bike is going to be a cyclecross bike. Need something good on the gravel and dirt, but without the small wheels and front shock of my MTB. XCross bikes are a blast and you can ride them on the road. My fast riding friends often take their cross bikes with road tires on long group rides. Even though these bikes are a bit heavier, they have no problem kicking my butt.
Lastly - anyone riding with a Garmin Edge 500 and power meter should upgrade to the new Garmin software. It has more power training options and additional screens. Haven't ridden with the new softward but my friends really like it.
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@Bunnyma
Yeah my buddy and I talked for a couple hours about this last night and I am totally sold on the concept. It would be strictly a workout tool for me (and a lot of fun!)
What do you think of this one? $350 shipped! Good reviews. The cool thing about fixed gears is the low price on a lot of them due to their basic simplicity. Which is kind of ironic.
http://www.roadbikeoutlet.com/gavin-fisso-singlespeed-fixed-gear-bike.html
@Jackman.
I feel you. That's why my main rig is a mountain bike (no suspension, suspension saps road speed imo) with road tires. Stout, burly, can plow right through bad terrain, yet nimble and fast over flat road. I love cruising the city, exploring, finding monster hills to climb, hopping curbs, siteseeing, etc, etc, long distance workouts, I love it. I love the extra weight, it makes me stronger, and is more satisfying when I outrun road bikes on my runs.
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Anyone have suggestions for a street tire to go on a Mt Bike. I don't hit the trails as much but still ride it on the road.
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Chip,
Been a year or so since I had a road tire'd atb, but the Continental City Contact was some good rubber.
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I think you'll enjoy it when you do that. A mountain bike road tire has a nice fat profile so you can really carve turns hard.
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What do you think of this one? $350 shipped! Good reviews. The cool thing about fixed gears is the low price on a lot of them due to their basic simplicity. Which is kind of ironic.
http://www.roadbikeoutlet.com/gavin-fisso-singlespeed-fixed-gear-bike.html
The bike looks nice, I'm a fan of steel frames, and the bull horn bars seem to be the most popular - I also like that it has both brakes. It also looks like it includes waterbottle bosses, which is nice. At that price it seems like it would be hard to go wrong.
The photo of the rear hub looks like it shows a freewheel rather than a fixed cog - it says it is a flip/flop hub, but I'd check to make sure both the freewheel and fixed cog are included.
Personally, there are a few reasons I prefer a conversion over a true fixie, that I'll list those just to give some perspective - but I think for your purpose the linked bike would be great.
- Broader choice of geometry - new fixies tend to be pretty aggressive geometry and can be twitchy for commuting, a converted road bike or tourer can be a lot more stable and less quick.
- I like a chain guard, since I'll ride in street clothes, with a conversion you can put the guard where the big chainring was. New Fixies can are designed to only have one chainring.
- I like to be able to easily adjust stem height, and an older quill stem makes that much easier than a threadless headset.
- I prefer horizontal dropouts over track ends for commuting, the wheel is removed by sliding it towards the middle of the bike, so it can be removed with fenders and racks in place. With track ends the wheel is removed by sliding it towards the the rear and you may have to remove accessories.
Jim C
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Chip,
Been a year or so since I had a road tire'd atb, but the Continental City Contact was some good rubber.
What he said! These are nice, durable tires for city riding. If you want something oriented towards road riding for your MTB, Conti makes a couple other models like Gatorskins and, if you are daring, Grand Prix. The Grand Prix are softer and not as durable but I use them on my road bike and love them. They are lightweight, have low rolling resistance and have a great ride on hard surfaces. Not good for off-road! Oh, and they are expensive.
I've got Tom Slick's on my wife's bike (aka, my backup street bike) and they are decent all-around tires. Good for MUP, streets and general city riding. Not a good off-road tire but it's a slick. No slick is good off road.
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Not a lot of activity here lately. Me included. It has been so hot and humid, very limited motivation and miles for me. A new bike purchase though. Wanted a "hey let's take a bike ride kid's" bike. In typical fashion, sure I will make some mild upgrades(post, saddle, maybe new wheels).
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=64197)
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been riding my Trek steely SS around town a lot since the weather warmed up. Got one ride off road, have yet to take the roadie out but I think I might know where to now.
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Nice!
My buddy Josh and I have decided to both get fixies in July. I'm getting that Gavin Fisso, seems to be a nice ride, and he's getting a Norco Heart. He works in a bike shop, big nerd, he's actually getting ready to create his own bikes with his own brand.
Anyway, after all I've heard about these things, looking forward to some rock hard leg muscles. Should be a nice summer.
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I am liking the BAR FLY for now. 8-)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Bar%20Fly/dafa0ec0.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Bar%20Fly/f5adae12.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Bar%20Fly/b782f419.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Bar%20Fly/8963f714.jpg)
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Levi,
Which Cervelo model is that?
I did a little 20 minute ride on a S5 with electronic shifting over the weekend and thought it was a damn nice bike.
George
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Thinking Levi rides a tricked out R3?
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I love my Cervelo R3.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/15dcc859.jpg)
Picture taken at Cornell ER
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Below is my current bike (a 12 year old chrome molly Bianchi hybrid).
While she is heavy and not exactly the fastest bike out there, she is comfortable and I have no problems riding for a couple of hours in one shot or 4-5 times per week.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ApY1V0pIuSg/T-zcnANGoaI/AAAAAAAAQWU/yNIcmFA3Vsg/s1600/DSC_3072.jpg)
George
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I own a Cervelo R3 just like Levi's. It's for sale.
Here's the link:
http://classifieds.roadbikereview.com/showproduct.php?product=29014&title=2010-cervelo-r3-frame-2c-fork-2c-seatpost-and-stem56cm&cat=5
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Got to love Celeste George.
Nice frame Tvad. Nice price too.
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Thanks for all of the posts, PM's and phone calls. :thumb:
Tomorrow I will be taking either the Cervelo S5 or Specialized Roubaix out for a 30-60 minute ride to get a better understanding of the bike. Also, I will get a chance to try a Parlee Z5/Ultegra for 1-2 days. This will allow me to take it out for a 30 mile ride and see how that goes.
Should be a fun 3 day weekend.
George
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If you are into exotic bikes, check out Storck Fascenario 0.6.
This bike frame has so many innovations and technology built into it. My local bike shop has one on sale for $10,000.
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I did say $10k was for the frame only. :lol:
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This is going to make my bike even lighter which is currently at 14 lbs. :thumb:
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Specialized%20Toupe%20S%20Works/600cdc9e.jpg)
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Nice saddle Levi. I have a non-carbon railed on one of my bikes and I highly recommend.
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Thanks Jeff. I hope to get many miles from the Toupe S-Works otherwise, I am going back to the Romin Pro.
Nice saddle Levi. I have a non-carbon railed on one of my bikes and I highly recommend.
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I just got this about 2 weeks ago and yesterday I went on my first ride of any distance. I rode along A1A(Atlantic coast) for about 40 miles - average speed was about 3.5 mph faster than when on my Fuji Absolute 1.0(flatbar with 105 group). That aero sure makes a difference. I'm still getting used to the tri position and my neck was hurting for half of the ride. I started at 6:30am and got back around 8:30 so it was still nice and cool for Florida at about 75 deg.
Kestrel Talon Tri SRAM Force
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=63712)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=64535)
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I just cracked out a 40 miler and traded the lead with a nice roadbike for six of em. By the time I shed these extra 20 pounds, Watch yo self.
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Has anyone seen the new Trek Madone 7, the Radio Shack team is riding in this year's TDF? Finally a cool looking bike from Trek. They didn't even louse up the paint scheme this year. I like the new aero brake setup and wonder if we will see similar brakes from other brands in the near future. Adjustments will be different and I don't know how you release it when you have to take off your wheel. Hmmmm. :scratch:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/06/bikes-and-tech/spotted-all-new-trek-madone-7_222357
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I ordered a Fugi Altimira 2.0 from Performance and should arrive next week, looks to be a fairly good build except for the Alex ALX200 wheels. Thinking I may go ahead have them build it with better wheels, any suggestions? I'd like to keep it around $600 or so.
I've been riding a 2004 Felt SR71 (flat bar road bike) so am hoping the Fugi will be a significant upgrade, considered another Felt and Specialized but the Fugi just seemed to be the best bang for the buck. I was planning to get an endurance model thinking at 56 years old it may be more comfortable for longer distance but finally decided on the Altimira, hope I didn't make a mistake.
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I'm not familiar with the bike you bought but I'd suggest trying the stock wheels for a while. If they ride funky or come out of true, I'd look at something inexpensive like the wheels from Neuvation. I've got a Neuvation front wheel and it's pretty nice. For the money they are a good deal and good value. They have wheelsets starting around $200.
There are a million choices, but Neuvation clinchers are probably suitable for your bike, and come in under your budget. Spend the money you save on some decent skewers, tubes and a set of Conti GP4000 tires. You should have some cash to spare. If you do, spend the money on some decent pedals, a saddle that fits you right (stock saddles usually suck) and some decent bottle holders for your bike if it doesn't come with them. If you don't go too crazy, you might be able to do it within budget. If not, I'd get the pedals, tires and bottle holders and hold off on the wheels altogether.
The saddle, pedals and shoes would be my first priority. Comfort is your top priority! I know guys who are still using stock Shimano wheels that have thousands of miles on them. The wheels are heavy but it doesn't slow down these guys. THey kick my butt!
http://www.neuvationcycling.com/product-list/wheels-1091/
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$600 for the wheels alone? If so, there are a lot of options. Not sure you really need to spend that much though. You actually can upgrade from the current wheels for around $250-$300. $600 is just icing on the cake.
I am a firm believer that wheels are just as important as the frame in general.
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$600 for the wheels alone? If so, there are a lot of options. Not sure you really need to spend that much though. You actually can upgrade from the current wheels for around $250-$300. $600 is just icing on the cake.
I am a firm believer that wheels are just as important as the frame in general.
Jeff - I agree with you but if he has a new bike, replacement wheels would be lower on the list than a good saddle, pedals and decent road shoes. Also, stick tires are often not so hot. This is just my opinion. Id also get a Garmin 500 before spending mine on new wheels.
Get wheels as a reward for your first 2000 miles or so. That's what I would do. good luck.
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Completely agree Jack. Just like fit, comfort is king. A $1k set of wheels is not worth it if you are miserable.
Saddles, shoes, etc., are such personal preference, that it is hard to say what works for someone.
I have a somewhat expensive bike, but ride a $60 saddle. What I was trying to convey is that for a majr expense, wheels are are good place to spend your money. Provide the other pieces are already in place.
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Jeff, I completely agree with you. I was trying to say new wheels were not necessary. Stock wheels might be heavy but as long as they are true, there are higher priorities. I'd focus on dialing in my fit and comfort.
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Thanks for the suggestions jackman and Ladydog. I guess I was jumping the gun with the new wheels, I called Performance and spoke with the mechanic who will do the build, he said that the Alex wheels were pretty decent and he advised me to stick with them for the time being.
I've had a new saddle on order for around a month now, the Selle Italia I've been riding with is really bothering me this year for some reason. New pedals and electronics are also on the agenda for the new bike. For the pedals I think I'll just go with the Forte clone of the Shimano design. Not so sure on the electronics, think it will either be the Garmin 200 or the Cateye Strada. The Cateye does heartbeat and cadence while I would have to spend quite a bit more to get that with a Garmin.
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I plan on riding lots of miles, get the Garmin edge 500. It tracks your miles automatically on Garmin connect and is pretty slick. I have a Cateye. It works well but is limited in this regard because it doesn't have gps.
You can usually find it for around 200 bucks if you shop around. 250 with cadence and heart rate. I really love mine. Also,
Look pedals are very good IMO. You should be able to get a used pair for around what you paid for your pedals. They are easy to use and durable.
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Having been laid up for the past week with a bad back has given me a chance to get more council (thanks Jeff, tvad, and others) and do more research on the bike buying front.
While I almost pulled the trigger on what "looked like" great deals on used bikes from Parlee, Serotta, and Specialized I ultimately showed some self control and passed on all of them.
Instead of buying a bike now, I have shifted my focus to getting a complete fitting and analysis so that I really know what geometry and setup will work for me. This has been a universal recommendation from everybody I talk to (unlike everybody having a particular set of vendors that they endorse).
While there are literally dozens of shops to choose from in my area (it's nice being just outside Boston), I have narrowed my choices down to the following stores:
Grace Bicycles (http://gracebicycles.com/ - just down the road from me and a very experienced and certified Retul dealer that comes highly recommended)
Belmont Wheelworks (http://wheelworks.com/ - also a Retul dealer and comes highly recommended)
ATA Cycle (http://www.atabike.com/ - also comes highly recommended)
I hope to have the fitting take place within the next few weeks.
Has anybody had a Retul fitting (http://www.retul.com/)? If so, what did you think?
George
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I think Levi had a Retul fitting and posted about it somewhere on Audiocircle. A search would turn it up.
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Jeff - I agree with you but if he has a new bike, replacement wheels would be lower on the list than a good saddle, pedals and decent road shoes. Also, stick tires are often not so hot. This is just my opinion. Id also get a Garmin 500 before spending mine on new wheels.
Get wheels as a reward for your first 2000 miles or so. That's what I would do. good luck.
Jackman,
Any experience with the Garmin 800?
Online reviews are pretty positive, but I haven't yet pulled the trigger.
George
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I think Levi had a Retul fitting and posted about it somewhere on Audiocircle. A search would turn it up.
Didn't find it via search.
Only saw Jackman post saying a friend did it and thought it was well worth it.
George
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Didn't find it via search.
Only saw Jackman post saying a friend did it and thought it was well worth it.
George
Sorry. I would have sworn it was here. I'll try to remember where I did see it.
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I have friends who swear by the Retul system. Serotta and I believe Specialized have fit systems as well. Comfort is critically inportant and a good fitter can work wonders. Systems like Retul require certification for the fitter so you stand a good chance of getting a consistent fit from one fitter to another. It's expensive but ususally money well spent. I have a local guy who did my fitting. He was not certified and did not follow a formal system but he did a great job. After the fit, I rode faster and more comfortable.
Regarding the Garmin, Levi has the 800 and I'm sure he will chime in. That guy has all of the cool toys. He is like Batman! The 800 has GPS direction functionality and touch screen, color. The 500 is more compact and can display all of the key data but does not have a touch screen or directional gps. It will tell you where you've gone but will not tell you where to go.
I'm happy with the 500 because I have a Powertap power meter and the Garmin is ant+ compatible. I love it and have owned it for a couple years.
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Anyone here using Strava? I signed up last week. . .pretty neat features.
Also, I'm a big fan of iBike. I currently use the iBike Pro but I'm seriously considering the Dash with power.
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I love blowing past you guys with the fancy gear :green:... So so satisfying.
that's for jackman, with his old knees, I love everyone else.
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I love blowing past you guys with the fancy gear :green:... So so satisfying.
While listening to your Ncore amps at the same time? :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
George
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Nope, just me. :green: The only sound is WOOOOOOSH!
For some reason the people who get maddest are geared-out women. They can't believe I have the audacity to rip them a new one on my beater. I'm in a t shirt and board shorts, no helmet, clipped in with Shimano's. It's so fun, you have no idea.
I rode past a bike club yesterday, about 15 riders, must have been 20K-30K worth of equipment. I called out, "which one's Lance?"
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I'm in a t shirt and board shorts, no helmet, clipped in with Shimano's. It's so fun, you have no idea.
Certainly not something I would do with 2 square inches of rubber in contact with the road.
I rode past a bike club yesterday, about 15 riders, must have been 20K-30K worth of equipment. I called out, "which one's Lance?"
I'm guessing you end up riding alone most of the time.
Steve
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Nope, just me. :green: The only sound is WOOOOOOSH!
For some reason the people who get maddest are geared-out women. They can't believe I have the audacity to rip them a new one on my beater. I'm in a t shirt and board shorts, no helmet, clipped in with Shimano's. It's so fun, you have no idea.
I rode past a bike club yesterday, about 15 riders, must have been 20K-30K worth of equipment. I called out, "which one's Lance?"
How old are you?
If my 8 year old son behaved the way you described I would be disappointed with him. Thankfully, I know he doesn't act like you!
Proud of not wearing a helmet...another great move on your part.
Keep up the good work. :wink:
George
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Hey Rclark,
I have no doubt most people on this thread could blow by me on a bike these days. My knees are pretty good but that extra 15 lbs I put on in the last year slows me down nicely.
Honestly, I've never seen anyone blow by my bike group. They are pretty fast and anyone with the ability to blow by them would only be met with admiration. We're all cyclists doing what we love. Old, young, fat and thin, we are all riding because it's what we love to do. I gave up hopes of being the fastest guy a long time ago...but I train to be as fast as I can be.
Once I was wrapping up a brutal 50 or 60 mile ride. I was training intervals and my legs were toast. On my way home, I was taking it easy and a guy on a mountain bike came flying past me. He was standing on the pedals, huffing and puffing. When he was about fifty yards ahead of me, I sprinted and blasted by him. Gave a big smile as I said, "on your left". It was a hollow victory because the guy was on a mountainbike, but it was fun. Smart riders in my group would have let him go.
You will appreciate real cyclists when your chain brakes or when you crash on a solo ride and need assistance. It's shocking and humbling to see so many people who are willing to go out of their way to help someone they have never formally met. We're all cyclists after all, even us slow guys.
If someone wants to beat me, I'm cool with it. If I'm on the bike, I'm happy. Even when I'm suffering!
Cheers
J
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:green:
I dont wear a helmet when I'm on the river trail. No need. Not a car or stoplight in site. For endless miles. Eyes up.
In the city, oh yeah, helmet.
..thinking about joining a group, but no slow people please. And had to razz Jackman a bit.
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Rclark do you wear a hair net or at least a sweat/summer cap to keep the eyes clear
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Nope, I wipe it off with my hands. I love it. Cycling is one of the best activities ever.
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George,
I own a Garmin 800 and really like it. I am an old geezer (mid 60s) so the larger display and touchscreen are very useful to me, but the 800 has so many features that most of us will never fully utilize. Like Levi posted a few pages earlier, I can recommend the Bar Fly handlebar mount for Garmins. The Bar Fly provides more angles for viewing as well as placing the Garmin ahead of your stem which helps my viewing.
I regularly ride 100 -200 miles weekly on hilly routes here in middle Tennessee with a weekend ride generally of 50 plus miles. My ridng buddies range in age from 57 -72, and we can maintain a 20 mile per hour pace for 50 plus miles. Our 72 year old is amazing for his age. He loves to lead until he slips below 20 mph, but he can ride at the 20mph pace for several miles before tiring. We also have another gentleman of 69 that rides a Rivendell Rambouillet touring bike on 28 mm tires. He is a true masher, attacking all of the climbs in 81 to 90 inches of chain and makes it look so easy going over the top. We have two centuries coming up later this summer, and it would be nice to ride at a 5 hour century pace, something I haven't done in 30 years. I just returned to serious cycling last year after 25 years of watching my old steel frame bikes collect dust. Fortunately for me, I found a cycling club that has a membership of 150 with the average age of mid 50s with many competing in triathlons. There is a large group in this club that really train seriously which has motivted me to get back in shape.
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I dont wear a helmet when I'm on the river trail. No need. Not a car or stoplight in site. For endless miles. Eyes up.
In the city, oh yeah, helmet.
..thinking about joining a group, but no slow people please. And had to razz Jackman a bit.
Landing on your head without a helmet is a serious consideration, regardless of whether you're on a trail or on the road.
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Tybee,
You are an inspiration. I am pretty sure most of the big "talkers" can't pull off a legitimate 5 hour century. It would be fun to see a particularly boastful helmet less chap take a crack at one. I suspect be would learn some well needed humility.
Congrats and please keep us posted on your continued progress. The best average I've ever achieved on a century was a bit over 18mph. I'm going to have to train much harder to get to that 5 hour mark.
Cheers
Jack
PS - I encourage anyone who hasn't done it to sign up for a century ride. You will be as impressed with Tybee as I am.
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I am mid 50's ride 4-5 week. 20-30 miles rides. 1-2 century's
per year. The Hotter than Hell in Texas is next.
I am impressed with those times Tybee
regardless of the ages in your group...when factoring in the age
WOW! back in the day we never wore helmets, drove without
seatbelts & lived to tell about it. To each his own.
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Tybee, that IS impressive.
And Jackman, you are welcome to come ride with me any time. We can talk about humility on the warmup.
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Tybee, that IS impressive.
And Jackman, you are welcome to come ride with me any time. We can talk about humility on the warmup.
I'll gladly ride with anyone on AC. You won't catch me flapping my gums about how fast I am, regardless of the outcome.
It's funny but I've never heard a fast guy boast about flying by a group of riders. The fast guys I know (including my friend who is a time trial racer who raced in the Iron Man world championships last year) are the most modest. You just might be a rare exception.
I will say one thing - and it's just a hunch because I have no idea how fast you can ride - I bet you are not capable of a sub-five hour century. Don't feel bad, I can't either these days.
At least I'm not going to hassle you about not wearing a helmet. Guys like you should ONLY ride without a helmet. Good luck.
I
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:green:
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:green:
anytime baby
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I'll gladly ride with anyone on AC. You won't catch me flapping my gums about how fast I am, regardless of the outcome.
It's funny but I've never heard a fast guy boast about flying by a group of riders. The fast guys I know (including my friend who is a time trial racer who raced in the Iron Man world championships last year) are the most modest. You just might be a rare exception.
I will say one thing - and it's just a hunch because I have no idea how fast you can ride - I bet you are not capable of a sub-five hour century. Don't feel bad, I can't either these days.
At least I'm not going to hassle you about not wearing a helmet. Guys like you should ONLY ride without a helmet. Good luck.
I
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Not sure if you read my post or if you have comprehension issues. I already said I was slow and my miles are way down. If you take that as me challenging you, you are sadly mistaken.
Maybe you need to wear a helmet because it appears you may have bumped your head.
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I knew someone that behaved a lot like that in the local tennis scene. No one will play with him anymore, and it has absolutely nothing to do whether he was better than them or not.
Steve
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:lol: :thumb:
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Jackman, Steve...stop feeding the Troll. :wink:
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Jackman, Steve...stop feeding the Troll. :wink:
Levi,
Any comments on the Garmin 800?
George
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Garmin 800 works just like your car's nav with HR, Cadence and Powermeter monitoring capabilities. It requires a City map or topo 24k map as the included base map is useless.
I barely use the nav since I know my routes. I do like the large touch screen for monitoring my vitals. However, I think the screen is too small to see a big map for the ultimate in navigation. A 5" screen would be much better.
Check out dcrainmaker.com for comprehensive reviews on all the Garmin edge cycling computers.
Btw, I tried Retul fit and it is worth every penny. I was able to ride faster and no pain after fine tuning the retul fit. Building a good relationship with the fitter is the key.
I hope this helps.
Levi,
Any comments on the Garmin 800?
George
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no helmet
Well, I will not say what I want to say but I will say this.
Anytime you want to come to NC and meet a really really nice guy that's now a 24 yr old with serious head trama, I'll introduce you to him. He was a thrid year Duke student who was "just going for a quick ride" around the block. One ride, one fall on his head. He wasn't supposed to live but he has a very very long recovery ahead of him.
It's no joke. The brain surgeon told his parents if he had a helmet he would've been released the next day without any head trauma.
Don't be stupid, wear a helmet!
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I had a Retul fitting by a well regarded local cycling coach and fitter. He has strong credentials having worked with Chris Carmichael Training at one point. The Retul resulted in about a 2mm raising of my saddle, and a small adjustment on my right cleat position. Apparently, I had dialed in my own fitting pretty well, but yes small adjustments can make a significant difference on the bike.
About nine months after the Retul, the owner of my LBS, who was a champion cyclist in Europe, and later became a team mechanic, noticed my position on a ride and later adjusted my saddle position and recommended a longer stem. This took maybe twenty minutes.
The adjustments he applied made all the difference. More power. No pain.
In my experience, I'd say a fitter with a boat load of experience and a trained eye trumps the Retul (and costs less).
YMMV
On the Garmin discussion...I bought a Garmin 500 two months ago and used it for a week. For the two years prior to purchasing the Garmin 500, I have used a Rox 8.0. No GPS on the Rox. The Rox 8.0 offers some specific data that I use to evaluate my rides that the Garmin did not provide as far as I could tell (after uploading the data to the Garmin web page...forgot what it's called). The Garmin is a slick device and the mapping feature is cool, and I'd say 90% of the local riders use one...but I returned mine in favor of the Rox 8.0.
Again, YMMV.
And on the helmet issue...I've had two pretty significant crashes in the past year and a half. Neither could have been anticipated. In one crash, a driver who was waiting to take a left turn decided to turn when my buddy and I were about 50 feet away. Nothing I could do to avoid hitting the small pick-up, and I t-boned into the bed of the truck. Broke my helmet. Had a minor concussion and no broken bones, but my bell was rung for a few days. Hate to think what would have happened if I hadn't been wearing a helmet.
The problem with cycling is you can never totally anticipate crashes. They happen when you least expect them, and they happen in an instant.
I once used to ride without a helmet when it got really hot here in Southern California. Not now.
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Hi all,
First post over here. Just about to take my single speed out for a couple of hilly, hopefully not too painful, hours. Before I do, how about my short cycling history?.. Not sure why, but I feel like sharing.
I can understand what you guys were saying a few pages back regarding knees and whatnot. I rode / commuted fixed for about six months; occasional tough hills and weekly ~ 30 mile rides were fine. When I moved out to The Gap, a hilly part of Brisbane, I found my knees were often sore following a ride, I was enjoying my rides less and they tended to be shorter and almost too exhausting (for a regular ride); I could never quite get my rhythm.
So, I changed to single speed and found that I prefer being able to go down a hill more quickly than I sprint up it, being able to corners more ideally, and the generally more dynamic style of riding. Riding was fun, yet challenging. I rarely flip the wheel to fixed any more. I like that the single speed is a tough workout, fun and able to keep up with most packs on anything but flat open road – top speed is limited.
Recently I upgraded some components (I like the Omnium cranks!) and started clipping in. Even with what should be a decent fit – major knee issues. I ride hard (a sprinter type, I guess), in a hilly area, and always seem to try to do too much too soon… my body keeps breaking down. High gearing does not only make the ride tough in obvious ways, technique also suffers – applying full force early in the stroke… I need to show some restraint and learn some decent technique.
On Tuesday I have a three hour injury assessment and bike fit. I expect I will have to purchase some new components and will be referred for some technique coaching. I would not be surprised if it is recommended that I ride a geared bike most days and keep the single speed for the occasional tough workout, rather than for a fast daily commute. Costly, but it might just keep me riding until old age (I am currently 41 yo).
Cheers,
Raymond
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Just rode the same 40 mile route in the dark. It was all kinds of awesome. And I wore my helmet, without a moon those turns can sure come up fast.
Sorry for the hubbub gentlemen :wink: (and ladies), please carry on.
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Ah, that feels nice. About 25 miles, maybe a few more, on the single speed. A few hills, some rather steep and sprint-worthy (even though I told myslf no sprinting! :duh:) short hills, some fast parts, some slow, and some long (for me) climbs at the end. I can always count on some curious looks from the road crowd when toddling around the foot hills of Mt. Coot-tha.
Knee hurt, but that was expected; not too bad now though. Good honest fun and exercise. Now, where's the cold pack?
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Welcome Raymond. Also took my single speed out for a quick jaunt this am. Something to be said about the simplicity of a single speed or fixed bike.
Weather was nice, finally a day where it is not 100+ degrees.
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Hi Tvad - just wondering, what does the Rox do that the Garmin doesnt? The latest Garmin firmware offers several power meter data fields, and it already has all of the basic functions most people need (cadence, avg mph, max mph, altitude, feet of climbing, wattage, max and avg watts, temperature, HR, etc.). It also has a compas and Gps tracking ability. I really like the simplicity of the 500 and the compact size. It doesn't give directions but it's ant+ compatible and links up perfectly with my Powertap. You can also download all of the PT data to sites like Golden Cheetah if you want additional analytical capability.
What data does the Rox give you that the Garmin dies not? I'll do a search but was hoping to get your feedback.
Raymond - welcome to AC! Good luck with your riding. Single speed bikes put more pressure on your knees especially on hills. Grinding a big gear is great for building muscle but it's good to have the ability to spin up hills in a lower gear.
Here is a review of the Garmin, Rox and Cateye computers. Garmin has upgraded the software since the review but it gives a good overview of each computer.
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=70862
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Jackman, the Rox calculates average climb speed (for the total ride) for one thing. I use this stat frequently.
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Hi all,
Thanks for the warm welcome. I had not ridden for about 20 years when I decided to get my single speed; I wanted something simple. And still do. No gears, no schedules, no computers... just (usually) challenging rides.
However, as Jackman says, tough on on the knees, especially if the fit and technique are not sorted (like mine!). And it is all hills around here, good for interval style training but not great for distance and base fitness. I'd also like the focus and challenge of training towards a goal... The time is approaching when I will purcahse geared bike.
I would like a custom build steel framed bike, but a carbon bike might be kinder to my body? Any thoughts?
Cheers,
Raymond
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There are so many good choices in carbon fiber, steel including stainless, and titanium. It's hard to pick one. Ask ten people and you'll probably get ten different answers. Custom is cool if you have a funky build (long legs, short torso, etc.) but you might not need custom. Plus you can't demo a custom bike before buying.
That said, custom could be a great option. There is a high degree of trust involved in a custom build between the rider and the builder. I don't know where you live but when you are ready for a custom build, I'd suggest that you interview several custom builders to see which one feels right to you. You might want to include some highly trusted builders like Waterford, lynskey and Hampsten. There are so many excellent small builders these days and so many great steel and ti frame choices. I know a few guys with custom bikes and they love their rides. It's not cheap bu neither is a top shelf carbon frame.
Don't be afraid of carbon's durability. It can be repaired and it's less expensive than you think. There are even some carbon fiber custom builders but not as many as steel. Check out bikeforums.com. It's a decent place to start your search.
I'd like to get a custom lugged steel or titanium bike someday with Campy Recors 11 speed. Of course, I'd like to get a pro level carbon fiber frame someday as well, with Zipp 404's and Di2! I just need to find an extra 20 grand to blow on bikes.
Cheers
Jack
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Raymond,
Be aware that carbon fiber does not necessarily = comfort. Not only are there different fiber compositions but the bike builder has a lot of flexibility in how the fibers are oriented and how many layers are applied. Between that and bike geometry there is a lot of room for variation. Some bikes may be built for comfort and others may be designed for maximum rigidity. Still others may be designed in between and offer a comfortable ride with good performance for the average rider.
The nastiest bike I ever rode was a Trek OCLV. It was a demo ride. Real butt pounder. That was back in 1995 and not meant to reflect on any current design. I was also riding the smallest frame size which increased rigidity. I don't remember any of the other bikes I tested but I remember that one. I could not wait to get it back into the shop. It did corner great but that was the only nice thing I could say about it.
Things to consider are your physical stats--weight, size, physical condition. Then there is your riding style (hammer, cruise) and typical route (steep climbs?).
Much of what is in advertisements and bike mags is aimed at the ultimate performance athlete (competitor) and not necessarily the best choice for more casual (but still serious) riders. If you are just getting back into the game where does that put you in terms of actual need and what will serve you best?
Carbon fiber bikes have come a long way since 1995 and there are a lot more models to choose from. Back then I chose a Merlin Road (titanium--Road is the actual model name) and have never regretted it. They also offered another model that was much stiffer (at least in my frame size). I think it was called the Extra Light. It had double-butted tubing but the tubing was larger in diameter than the straight-gauge Road model. My point being that two bikes built of the same elemental material (titanium) and offered by the same manufacturer had different ride characteristics. They were not = and the same applies to CF.
Good luck with whatever you choose.
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Jackman, Don - thank you both for the advice. I will keep it in mind when shopping round, for sure.. Very helpful advice regarding my needs, frame materials and custom builders. I so very much appreciate it.
The guy doing the fit for me today is Ben Ward at Cycle Dynamics. He offers a range of fit services, including one for custom frames. I am interested in how today turns out: I will not be his usual competitive cyclist... no knicks, just daggy shorts, a t-shirt, busted knees and sciatica. Certainly NOT the ultimate performance athlete.
My single speed is indeed a butt-pounding, essentially track geometry: compact, twitchy, a challenge down steep hills, scary tow-overlap... but corners well and I can really feel to power go down. I might be killing my knees though... I would be looking for something more relaxed, smooth... perhaps one of those more "in between" frames. I will have a chat with Ben today and begin contacting some frame builders.
Thanks again guys.
Raymond.
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Raymond, you are doing the right thing. I've known more than a few guys who made some expensive bad decisions before they got to where you are now. Spend time making the right decision regarding builder and getting fit. I'm confident you will wind up with a bike you will enjoy riding.
Don,
I agree regarding the first Madone bikes. They were ultra stiff and uncomfortable. That bike was designed for Lance Armstrong and was supposed to be an uncompromising race machine. I understand Trek was surprised so many people bought those first Madone bikes.
Modern CF bikes are much different. There are still some uncomfortable race bikes but modern cf builders are able to combine stiffness with comfort and great handling in a lightweight carbon fiber frame. Even today's race bikes are designed with some degree of comfort in mind. I think bike companies gave some thought to who was actually buying the bikes! Most guys who ride pro frames are not pros or even armature racers. They are just guys with the disposable income to buy an expensive bike.
Cheers
J
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I don't want to be the guy with more money than lung/legs. I keep to modest bikes and learn to get my fitness up. Some day I'll do the Lynskey's when I deserve them.
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If you want to get your fitness up, join your local bike club. Otherwise, Just keep riding. When you ride for fitness, just make sure you set your goals and training zones.
I don't want to be the guy with more money than lung/legs. I keep to modest bikes and learn to get my fitness up. Some day I'll do the Lynskey's when I deserve them.
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Hi Guys,
Jackman, I will certainly take my time and my fit and fitness are now a priority. Thanks.
All, I don’t want to be the guy that can't ride in 20 years’ time.
I went for my injury assessment and fit today. I am now of the opinion that a professional fit, physio and training are a worthwhile investment for most cyclists, especially if you are managing an injury.
My results were surprising. The technique I have been trying to correct was actually OK, except for the 56% left, 44% right power balance; my injured knee is the left. Also, what I thought was a decent technique correction was "the weirdest stroke" he has seen. My fit was not horrid, but has been tweaked and I need to purchase a different stem to give me a little more reach and slightly more upright riding position. A few indoor training sessions to address and reassess left-right power inequity might also be helpful.
The more serious surprise came with the injury assessment. I seem to have been compensating for my prolapsed disc and associated sciatic nerve issues by (dis)engaging certain muscle groups on the left side. Also, I can’t maintain hip stability when squatting on one leg, either side. Thankfully no muscle atrophy, just weakness. So, remedial work will be the main focus for the next few months… and possibly forever. Initially physio, then ongoing Pilates.
As an aside, he also thought I was nuts living where I do and riding single speed. I might benefit from an indoor trainer to get some base fitness back. It is time to start taking care of my body.
Cheers,
Raymond
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Hi Guys,
Jackman, I will certainly take my time and my fit and fitness are now a priority. Thanks.
All, I don’t want to be the guy that can't ride in 20 years’ time.
I went for my injury assessment and fit today. I am now of the opinion that a professional fit, physio and training are a worthwhile investment for most cyclists, especially if you are managing an injury.
My results were surprising. The technique I have been trying to correct was actually OK, except for the 56% left, 44% right power balance; my injured knee is the left. Also, what I thought was a decent technique correction was "the weirdest stroke" he has seen. My fit was not horrid, but has been tweaked and I need to purchase a different stem to give me a little more reach and slightly more upright riding position. A few indoor training sessions to address and reassess left-right power inequity might also be helpful.
The more serious surprise came with the injury assessment. I seem to have been compensating for my prolapsed disc and associated sciatic nerve issues by (dis)engaging certain muscle groups on the left side. Also, I can’t maintain hip stability when squatting on one leg, either side. Thankfully no muscle atrophy, just weakness. So, remedial work will be the main focus for the next few months… and possibly forever. Initially physio, then ongoing Pilates.
As an aside, he also thought I was nuts living where I do and riding single speed. I might benefit from an indoor trainer to get some base fitness back. It is time to start taking care of my body.
Cheers,
Raymond
Great post Raymond.
I am waiting for my back to heal up enough so I can have fitting.
Besides this current back challenges, I have bad knees (3 reconstructions on the left knee and one reconstruction on the right knee) that I am sure impact how I ride.
All that being said, I am anxious to get back to biking. In my first month riding, I have lost 11 pounds and I am exercising on a regular basis (4-5 times per week) again.
George
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My results were surprising. The technique I have been trying to correct was actually OK, except for the 56% left, 44% right power balance; my injured knee is the left. Also, what I thought was a decent technique correction was "the weirdest stroke" he has seen. My fit was not horrid, but has been tweaked and I need to purchase a different stem to give me a little more reach and slightly more upright riding position. A few indoor training sessions to address and reassess left-right power inequity might also be helpful.
The more serious surprise came with the injury assessment. I seem to have been compensating for my prolapsed disc and associated sciatic nerve issues by (dis)engaging certain muscle groups on the left side. Also, I can’t maintain hip stability when squatting on one leg, either side. Thankfully no muscle atrophy, just weakness. So, remedial work will be the main focus for the next few months… and possibly forever. Initially physio, then ongoing Pilates.
Cheers,
Raymond
Hey Raymond,
I may be suffering from the same weak left side vs right side strength imbalance. I recently had a bike ergonomic fitting and my left knee moves horizontally a couple of inches during the stroke cycle while my right knee goes straight up and down like a piston. I've suspected a muscle strength imbalance from skiing and most recently starting golf lessons. The golfing has really caused lower back pain and I had to stop for a couple of weeks. I just started physical therapy 2 weeks ago and hope that brings about some correction and long term sustainability.
Can you share what PT or exercises you are working on?
Thanks
Kenreau
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Hi Zybar and Kenreau,
I am glad you might have gotten something from my posts. I am getting ready for work this very minute, but will post some more this evening. If people find it helpful or interesting, I’d be happy to share about my training and progress as I continue down this path. Keep at it guys and take care.
I know what you mean by wanting to get back in cycling; I have been frustrated with only being able to ride every few weeks. Not sure how I’d feel if I could not ride at all. Knee reconstructions – ouch! And back! My guess is the fit will very much help you. I’d also recommend a quick assessment of technique, though this might be done as part of the fit.
Regarding the horizontal knee movement, mine is doing the same, but it is not pronounced. Due to compensation for my back issues, I sit slightly twisted on the bike, with my left knee closer to the top tube than my right. I also put ~ 25% more power through this leg. I can’t get a feel for the correct toe-in / cleat position (I want to vary it frequently) and I have the lateral movement.
Have a great evening. I will post some more after work.
Cheers,
Raymond
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I cannot afford a Storck. I bought a Cervel R5 vwd (vroomen.white.design) instead. Can't wait get her back from my LBS.
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Light enough?
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Sweet Levi. Can't wait to see it built up.
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Thanks!
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One more bling to close the night. :)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/Rotor%203D%20Plus%20cranks/365af76b.jpg)
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It'll be pretty hard to use those cranks without chain rings.... :green:
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I am still thinking if I should get the Q-rings or the regular round.
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I mentioned Strava (strava.com) in an earlier post. The more I use it, the more I like it. It provides a simple way to track your riding progress, and to compare your performance against others. The basic version is free, and the subscription version allows for inclusion of HR and power data from a Garmin unit.
If you decide to register, you can check out my rides by using the athlete search for "Bob Siegel". It's humbling to see how far I need to go to run with the best.
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Very nice Levi.
Where do you buy all your goodies?
George
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Thanks George.
I buy my bling lately from a few bike shops here in Long Island. I get very good pricing from them. To new a few; Peak Mtnbk, Bike Junkie and Brands Cycles, e.g. 20% off retail. Most of the times, they match the cheapest internet prices you can find and no shipping. I also buy from JBmountain bikes, wiggle and probikit.
--Levi
Very nice Levi.
Where do you buy all your goodies?
George
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Hey Raymond,
I may be suffering from the same weak left side vs right side strength imbalance. I recently had a bike ergonomic fitting and my left knee moves horizontally a couple of inches during the stroke cycle while my right knee goes straight up and down like a piston. I've suspected a muscle strength imbalance from skiing and most recently starting golf lessons. The golfing has really caused lower back pain and I had to stop for a couple of weeks. I just started physical therapy 2 weeks ago and hope that brings about some correction and long term sustainability.
Can you share what PT or exercises you are working on?
Thanks
Kenreau
All
I'm new here and to audio in general--so "hello"--but one area where I *am* experienced is as a bike fitter. I've been doing fittings since 1999 and am a certifiable "fit geek".
An interesting thing about pedaling imbalances--and lots of cycling issues in general--is how many are related to imbalances in function of the hips. There's a concept called the "malalignment syndrome" that discusses how common this is, even in the general population. We see it all the time in the fittings at the bike shop I own.
People always ask "what can I do to become stronger on the bike" (outside of riding more, of course). My response is always the same: work on core strength, particularly the hip stabilizers and even more particularly the gluteus medius.
All that being said: I'm a bike fitter, not a doctor or physical therapist...but our clients have had great luck following this advice.
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What happened to your old Cervelo? Or is this setup for different type of riding?
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I am still thinking if I should get the Q-rings or the regular round.
I'm a HUGE fan of Q rings. For me they really made a difference in my average power throughout my pedal stroke. I'm an oddball in that I'm awfully efficient, but I lack output in the power phase. The Q rings helped that.
We've seen a little issue on some bikes with front shifting, but for most people the tradeoff seems worth it.
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Josh,
I was thinking the same thing!
Levi - what size is your old bike? Can we get an AC special?
Cheers
J
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I'm a HUGE fan of Q rings. For me they really made a difference in my average power throughout my pedal stroke. I'm an oddball in that I'm awfully efficient, but I lack output in the power phase. The Q rings helped that.
We've seen a little issue on some bikes with front shifting, but for most people the tradeoff seems worth it.
Wes, do you use a power meter? Powertap?
Thanks
J
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My old Cervelo R3 is a 51cm.
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I used to use a PowerTap...but it made me too anal about my rides: "must stay in zone...must stay in zone". It just wasn't for me.
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+1 PowerTaps are great tool for training/recovery. Perhaps will try one of those Quarks in the future.
I have a potential buyer for the frame already. My Shimano 7950 170mm compact crankset is for sale + Hope ceramic BB 24mm $250+75 for the bb. Cheap!
This is one of the best way of transferring your bike settings.
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Cool bike! Congrats on the purchase.
Nearly everyone in my group rides with a Powertap, including me. It's great to know your wattage because it's the only true measure of how hard you are working. You could be cruising at 28mph with a strong tailwind or going downhill at 40mph and barely working. The watts don't lie!
If you don't like the data, just switch to a different screen on your meter (if you have a garmin) or turn it off if you use the Cycleops meter. How hard is that? You pay a minor weight penalty for the PT but the new ones are pretty light. I have friends who have PT Zipp 404's and other CF wheelsets. It is a great tool for training and to guage how hard you are working. You can use it to analyze your pedal stroke (if you pedal in circles you can generate more power with less effort, etc.). I hate it but appreciate the functionality it provides.
Good luck with the new ride! I didn't know you were a 51cm. My neighbor recently got divorced and was selling some bikes. He's a dentist and has great taste in road bikes. He had a really nice Lynskey 50 or 51 that he was selling very inexpensively with full Force. I'm a 56 but wished I could have fit in his frame because it was beautiful. He even sprung for polished Ti, which I'd never seen before in person. It's stunning but an expensive option. Cool looking on a road bike.
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Regarding Power. . .I use an iBike Pro as my cycling computer. It provides a power measurement based on forward movement. Some argue that it's not accurate. I'd argue that for the general population, it's accurate enough.
That being said, I don't typically pay attention to the readings as part of my training. :duh:
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Regarding Power. . .I use an iBike Pro as my cycling computer. It provides a power measurement based on forward movement. Some argue that it's not accurate. I'd argue that for the general population, it's accurate enough.
That being said, I don't typically pay attention to the readings as part of my training. :duh:
iBike is not accurate but if you don't use it, I guess accuracy doesn't matter. I've been training indoors lately and am in no position to critique anyone's training. The truth is, no casual rider really needs a PT or power meter. It's fun to have and can be a great training tool but it's not necessary. Of course, neither is a TDF level CF bike with Zipps, Di2, Look Blades, etc. None of this stuff is necessary but it can make cycling more fun...
There is a guy in my group that I think of whenever we start talking gear. He still has his ten or twelve year old Giant, aluminum road bike, mix and match groupset (including a MTB, XTR rear dr), triple crankset, and stock wheels. He rides every hill ride in the area and kills it. He's over 50 years old and routinely crushes younger guys every weekend on the bike, including me. I've never heard him brag or talk about his time or speed. I'm not sure he has a speedometer and know he does not have a Garmin. His no-name tires are older than my bike, and his shoes are older than my son.
Cheers,
J
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iBike is not accurate but if you don't use it, I guess accuracy doesn't matter.
I disagree, but that's okay. Here's a link to an independent test that shows it is. Of course, it favors the iBike, just as I'm sure the naysayers have information saying it's not accurate:
http://ibikesports.com/how_iBike_works.html
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From what understand, the iBike is only an approximation of power and does not provide instantaneous power response. I also believe it does not work on stationary trainers, during turns, while drafting and on rough roads. They are inexpensive but I don't think it would be useful to me.
Powertap are also not perfect. They are heavier than standard hubs, expensive, and not portable like an ibike. PT's are cheaper than crank based systems but crank based systems let you swap wheelsets and maintain power meter functionality. Crank based power meters aren't perfect either because they are difficult to swap between bikes, etc.
Either way, it's good to have options. I hope pedal based ant+ systems are available soon. That would be my preference.
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I've been training indoors lately and am in no position to critique anyone's training.
Training indoors?
Have you looked at this?
http://www.trainerroad.com/ (http://www.trainerroad.com/)
This is very cool and it works.
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I received a phone call Friday that my bike was ready! The Cervelo R5 vwd was everything that I expected it to be. Alex of Bicycle Planet truly did a great work with my bike. I highly recommend him for mission critical projects.
Thanks for looking.
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Very sweet ride Levi.
Just curious, did you consider the S5 at all?
George
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Thanks George. I considered the S-series. That is the S3 and S5 in particular but people in the know steered me away from them. They are stiff for my terrain. I leave that to the hardcore. I like epic rides and hills.
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I learned the other day that Cervelo is a Canadian company originally from Toronto. I thought they were Italian.
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That is Correct Josh. Cervelo is a Canadian company.
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I learned the other day that Cervelo is a Canadian company originally from Toronto. I thought they were Italian.
Here is a nice little write up on Cervelo by one of the bike stores in the Boston area:
http://www.fitwerx.com/product-reviews/bike-frame-manufacturer-profiles/cervelo-cycles
George
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Thanks George. I considered the S-series. That is the S3 and S5 in particular but people in the know steered me away from them. They are stiff for my terrain. I leave that to the hardcore. I like epic rides and hills.
Thanks Levi.
When I go back to test the S5 for a 30-60 min ride, I'll ask about the R series and maybe take it out for a spin as well.
George
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Looks great Levi. Will be interested to get your thoughts in a month or so, as comparison with the old bike.
George, not sure you have had your fitting yet? If so, any details? Thanks.
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Looks great Levi. Will be interested to get your thoughts in a month or so, as comparison with the old bike.
George, not sure you have had your fitting yet? If so, any details? Thanks.
See here Jeff:
http://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=107585.80
I'll try and give you a call tomorrow.
George
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I learned the other day that Cervelo is a Canadian company originally from Toronto. I thought they were Italian.
Canadian company, bikes made in China. They were recently bought out but the original owners are still on staff. I looked at some Cervelos today but could not go for a ride because we had thunder storms in Chicago today. The shop had several really nice S5's and some R5's. The S5 is interesting and I think it looks better in person than in pictures. I also checked out a couple nice Specialized S-Works Tarmacs and a Venge. Can't wait to actually ride these bikes! One Specialized had the new Ultegra Di2. Pretty cool.
Cheers
J
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Jack,
You in the market? Know you have been itching for a while. Damn common sense.
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Canadian company, bikes made in China. They were recently bought out but the original owners are still on staff. I looked at some Cervelos today but could not go for a ride because we had thunder storms in Chicago today. The shop had several really nice S5's and some R5's. The S5 is interesting and I think it looks better in person than in pictures. I also checked out a couple nice Specialized S-Works Tarmacs and a Venge. Can't wait to actually ride these bikes! One Specialized had the new Ultegra Di2. Pretty cool.
Cheers
J
I tested a S5 with Ultegra Di2 - it was cool.
Nice bikes on your list Jack. :thumb:
I have the following on my list:
Cervelo S5 and R5
Specialized Roubaiux
Giant Defy Advanced
Parlee Z5
George
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Jack,
You in the market? Know you have been itching for a while. Damn common sense.
Jeff - I was visiting some friends in the city and got side tracked. The shop near my fiend has lots of Specialized and Cervelo. It's amazing because so many were equipped with SRAM. Nothing like checking out new bikes.
I'm not sure if I want to she'll out this kind of cash but there were some nice looking bikes and these are on my test ride list. It's free to test them!
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George,
That's a good list. I'd suggest the new Madone and the Domane. Both are also on my list along with Colnago C59. If I get a Nago, it will have Campy! Can't get an Italian ride with anything else. Right?
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Since we're sharing bike porn ala Huster's "Beaver Hunt", here's my ride: Parlee Z5SL.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66099)
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Since we're sharing bike porn ala Huster's "Beaver Hunt", here's my ride: Parlee Z5SL.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66099)
Your bike is beyond porn. It is a work of art. Parlee with Campy Super Record? You have my vote for hottest bike of the thread. I'm not worthy of a bike that cool. I would not change a thing on that bike.
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...Enve wheels, Selle SMP saddle...awesome bike. Feel free to post more pix!
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Since we're sharing bike porn ala Huster's "Beaver Hunt", here's my ride: Parlee Z5SL.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66099)
That there embodies the philosophy of http://slamthatstem.com/ (http://slamthatstem.com/).
Nice work. :thumb:
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I'd need two solid years of yoga to ride that setup! When I first got my bike I slammed the stem and had severe lower back pain. Took my bike to a fitter and he said, "who did this fitting?". Naturally I blamed my LBS!
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The groupset is a mixture of Campagnolo Record and Super Record. Only the shifters are Super Record. The rear derailleur pulley wheels have been upgraded with Campagnolo ceramic bearing pulley wheels.
The Enve 3.4 clincher wheels were built with Tune 70 Mig/170 Mag hubs.
With pedals and bottle cages, the bike weighs ~14.4 lbs.
I climb an average of 11,000 feet per week...sometimes less, sometimes more, and this bike works well for that.
I slowly lowered my stem over the course of a year while I owned my Cervelo R3. Ironically, I found the slammed set-up more comfortable on my back. This set-up is a bit deceiving because this Z5SL has the tall head tube option...but it's still pretty aggressive. Wish I had the sprinting ability to match the set-up.
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Congrats on the new Parlee Z5SL.
The groupset is a mixture of Campagnolo Record and Super Record. Only the shifters are Super Record. The rear derailleur pulley wheels have been upgraded with Campagnolo ceramic bearing pulley wheels.
The Enve 3.4 clincher wheels were built with Tune 70 Mig/170 Mag hubs.
With pedals and bottle cages, the bike weighs ~14.4 lbs.
I climb an average of 11,000 feet per week...sometimes less, sometimes more, and this bike works well for that.
I slowly lowered my stem over the course of a year while I owned my Cervelo R3. Ironically, I found the slammed set-up more comfortable on my back. This set-up is a bit deceiving because this Z5SL has the tall head tube option...but it's still pretty aggressive. Wish I had the sprinting ability to match the set-up.
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Levi,
Are your new Rotor crank, bottom bracket and chainrings "special"? I mean are they fairly standard but very high quality or are they "different"? Did you get round rings or the new "unround". I forget the name.
I have not followed Rotor since I built my bike so I don't know what their current offerings are.
Notice the "special" cams on my set. Heavy, and not recommended for racing but they help my old knees get up the hill. Sleeper Nashbar pedals sport titanium spindles stolen from some old Rictheys. They offset 0.005% of the extra weight of the crank. :lol:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66108)
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I am not into road porn I guess...I am so willing to spend $10+ on offroad, but I love my Giant Trance X...
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Hi Don, nice Rotor bling you have there! My Rotor chainrings are the "unround" and has OCP (Optimum Chainring Position). Rotor named it Q-rings. It supposed work just like yours but without the cams. See the white paper about the Q-rings. http://www.rotorbikeusa.com/pdf/More%20information_Q%20Rings.pdf
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What happened to your Cannondale road bike? The CAAD 9 or 10 supposed to be a great bike.
I am not into road porn I guess...I am so willing to spend $10+ on offroad, but I love my Giant Trance X...
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(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66108)
Wait,where is the rest of your frame. You're missing a down tube. :scratch:
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My set up is older. I wish I had had the option of the Q-rings. My crank is heavy and probably costs more than the Rotor with Q-rings. You always set up your rides first class. :thumb:
Hi Don, nice Rotor bling you have there! My Rotor chainrings are the "unround" and has OCP (Optimum Chainring Position). Rotor named it Q-rings. It supposed work just like yours but without the cams. See the white paper about the Q-rings. http://www.rotorbikeusa.com/pdf/More%20information_Q%20Rings.pdf
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/ac463ed2.jpg)
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Its all there. You just have to know where to look. :lol:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=18102)
Wait,where is the rest of your frame. You're missing a down tube. :scratch:
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My other bikes a Merlin (all Campy Record).
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=18105)
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Nice bikes!
You know that Merlin is a keeper!
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Very nice bikes in this thread! I'm jealous because all of you have nicer bikes than me! I hope you ride them fast!
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Vacationing in Georgia.
My new 2012 R5 VWD @13 lbs. without even trying. :)
Cervelo claimed the VWD frame as one of the lightest frames in the world. :thumb:
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/Travels/Atlanta%20Georgia%20Aug%202012/d9dc2a0a.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/Travels/Atlanta%20Georgia%20Aug%202012/e6bd8b5c.jpg)
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Levi! Hardly trying??? Zipps, Rotor Cranks, Dura Ace, carbon everything...not trying! That bike is a weight weenie's wet-dream! Very nice work. It's the best Cervelo ive ever seen, except maybe in an advertisement or magazine. Very stealthy and mean looking.
Are you riding the heck out of it? Send some Garmin data to the rest of us who can only watch and admire! Nice bike!!!
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Thanks!
Here is my recent Garmin data. This is supposed to be a C+ ride but I think this is more like a B ride before I realized we were all alone. Ha ha ha..
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There are a *ton* of Cervelos up here. Bike shops says that is what they sell the most of more than anything else. I thought it was an Italian company but they started in Toronto.
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That's good to know. Are the prices cheaper in Canada compared to US?
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No... I haven't comparison shopped that particular bike (I am not much of a roadie as you can probably tell). I'd say prices are similar but taxes are much higher 13.5% HST.
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I paid about a grand in taxes on my last bike. ouch.
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Josh, a grand in taxes? You aren't messing around!
I'm back on my road bike! Been indoor training every day for a week, doing CTS training DVDs including training for power, hill climbing and intervals. Went for a short 22 mile ride with my neighbor on Wednesday and similar ride yesterday. The rides felt great and I'm getting ready to go out for a 40 mile ride today.
Battery died on my Powertap so No wattage info from the rides but I kept up with my fast neighbor, he was holding back, for most of the ride and maintained 20 mph until the last couple miles. No way I can maintain the pace for 40 miles at this point. My legs were overcooked spaghetti after 19 miles.
The CTS DVDs are very useful if you want to train during winter or if you are pressed for time. You can get a great workout in about an hour. I also like spinervals DVDs.
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We'll decided an old school steel frame needed old school alloy parts. So swapped out the carbon bits for some alloy Centaur that I had been hanging on to. It gets harder and harder to find.
Got tired of trying to find a silver post, and was anxious to get back on the road again, so black will have to do for now. I've been on my single speed/fixie the last month or so, so it was nice to get on a road bike.
No Garmin or Powertap stuff. I do not need anything to tell me I am out of shape and slow.
So far pretty impressed with the Nucelon wheels and Speed Limit brakes. Anyway, pic time.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66794)
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Beautiful bike! I like the mix of black and chrome components.
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Thanks Jack. Got about 25 miles in this morning. Just need to keep being consistent with getting on the bike. As you know, with work, family, etc., it is not always easy.
Stay safe out there.
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Josh, a grand in taxes? You aren't messing around!
I'm back on my road bike! Been indoor training every day for a week, doing CTS training DVDs including training for power, hill climbing and intervals. Went for a short 22 mile ride with my neighbor on Wednesday and similar ride yesterday. The rides felt great and I'm getting ready to go out for a 40 mile ride today.
Battery died on my Powertap so No wattage info from the rides but I kept up with my fast neighbor, he was holding back, for most of the ride and maintained 20 mph until the last couple miles. No way I can maintain the pace for 40 miles at this point. My legs were overcooked spaghetti after 19 miles.
The CTS DVDs are very useful if you want to train during winter or if you are pressed for time. You can get a great workout in about an hour. I also like spinervals DVDs.
Forget pace...I haven't hit a 40 mile ride yet! My long ride has only been 36 miles. Most of my rides are between 10-25 miles.
I'll check out those CTS DVD's - thanks for the recommendation Jack. I'll save them for the long New England winter.
George
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Levi! Hardly trying??? Zipps, Rotor Cranks, Dura Ace, carbon everything...not trying! That bike is a weight weenie's wet-dream! Very nice work. It's the best Cervelo ive ever seen, except maybe in an advertisement or magazine. Very stealthy and mean looking.
Are you riding the heck out of it? Send some Garmin data to the rest of us who can only watch and admire! Nice bike!!!
13 lbs? Wow... only lighter riders can get away with this sort of thing. I think even myself might be too heavy for such bike....hehehehe, not to say I am necessarily heavy at 148 lbs. hehehehe.
I agree with Jackman, Levi's ride is a total tour de force in terms of carbon almost everything.
His ride make my bicycles look like doo-dats.
Paul :thumb:
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We'll decided an old school steel frame needed old school alloy parts. So swapped out the carbon bits for some alloy Centaur that I had been hanging on to. It gets harder and harder to find.
Got tired of trying to find a silver post, and was anxious to get back on the road again, so black will have to do for now. I've been on my single speed/fixie the last month or so, so it was nice to get on a road bike.
No Garmin or Powertap stuff. I do not need anything to tell me I am out of shape and slow.
So far pretty impressed with the Nucelon wheels and Speed Limit brakes. Anyway, pic time.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66794)
What sort of steel frame is that?
My stripping, derusting and repainting an old Ciocc frame has been slow at best. Still trying to dremel out what little pieces of the aluminium steer part corked in the chromed Ciocc fork.... You have to see me attempting to unbinding it from the steel tube...with a blowtorch and some welding gloves. Bad, bad electrolytic bonding in that thing.
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It is custom drawn Columbus Spirit tubing. Fillet brazed.
Looking forward to your completed Ciocc. Love all those old steel frame; Ciocc, Olmo, Casati, etc.
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It's good to see some road biking activity. Jackman, it is good to hear you are back on the road.
Ladydog, your bike looks great. I like how the seat stays blend into the seatpost tube. It reminds me of my Scott Paisley Columbus tubed frame where Paisley excelled at blending the seat stays to the top tube.
I have been riding longer rides this summer leading up to the HOT 100 century this past weekend. It is one of the hilliest centuries that i have completed. I didn't fully recover until this past Thursday. Most of our satuday club rides exceed 60 miles with lots of hills and extended climbs. Next weekend, I will participate in the Sunrise Century in Clarksville, TN, a 100 mile flat course for this part of the country. Several pro teams ride this course for time with the current record of 3:44:55. I have heard there will be three pro teams riding this year attempting to break this record. I will be riding with several members of our club, and we will be happy with a 5 hour century.
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It is custom drawn Columbus Spirit tubing. Fillet brazed.
Looking forward to your completed Ciocc. Love all those old steel frame; Ciocc, Olmo, Casati, etc.
I agree....there was a mystique to these vintage frames that I could not hold on and decided to pull the trigger in a semi rusty frame. This is in addition to all my other bicycles...an 1996 Bianchi Eros, A Specialized Apex Compact 2011 along with a Santa Cruz Stigmata cyclocross ride. Got as many bicycles as I need an extra hole in my cranium. hehehehe.
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Sometimes it is all about the bike. :)
I agree....there was a mystique to these vintage frames that I could not hold on and decided to pull the trigger in a semi rusty frame. This is in addition to all my other bicycles...an 1996 Bianchi Eros, A Specialized Apex Compact 2011 along with a Santa Cruz Stigmata cyclocross ride. Got as many bicycles as I need an extra hole in my cranium. hehehehe.
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Makes sense, we are all audio geeks so we have a tendency to be gear oriented! For the record, even though I lust after so many bikes, vintage, modern, mtb, xcross, single speed, etc., I still have my original and only road bike, a Trek Pilot 5.0.
I've literally tested more bikes than I can recall (dozens), from all of the major brands and every frame material, from Titanium, aluminum, carbon fiber, and steel (no vintage steel yet) and I love my admittedly in-sexy Trek. It rides so plush, it's like a Cadillac. Long wheelbase, slack geometry and really nice Wisconsin made carbon fiber. I've seen these sold for very low prices. Anyone looking for a comfy long distance bike with relaxed geo and room for fenders might want to look for a used carbon fiber Pilot from '08 or so. They aren't made anymore so Used is the only option.
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Nice bike Jeff.
The R5 vwd frame made the bike ultra-lightweight. I simply transferred all my components from my old R3 frame. That is why I said I hit 13 lbs. without even trying. Saving a huge 1-2 lbs., the feeling was not subtle. The frame is even more responsive to rider input and plush. Believe it or not it made me even faster with the same effort. (judging on my butt-dyno and Garmin data)
The question is...will you be able to ride my S-Works Toupe for many hours. ha ha ha ha.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Specialized%20Toupe%20S%20Works/0587ac39.jpg)
13 lbs? Wow... only lighter riders can get away with this sort of thing. I think even myself might be too heavy for such bike....hehehehe, not to say I am necessarily heavy at 148 lbs. hehehehe.
I agree with Jackman, Levi's ride is a total tour de force in terms of carbon almost everything.
His ride make my bicycles look like doo-dats.
Paul :thumb:
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It is probably easier to find a black stem. It will match the fork and the Seatpost
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=66794)
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I like the mix of black and alu. It kind of makes an X. The black post crosses with the black forks, and the alu crank crosses with the alu stem.
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Thanks Levi. While not the carbon railed version, I have found the Toupe pretty comfortable so far.
I have an Arione in carbon railed which fits my rear well too.
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I love my S-Works Toupe! I have over 200+ miles on it since August of this year.
Thanks Levi. While not the carbon railed version, I have found the Toupe pretty comfortable so far.
I have an Arione in carbon railed which fits my rear well too.
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I love my S-Works Toupe! I have over 200+ miles on it since August of this year.
While seats are as individual as the type of beer we like to drink.....I am not impressed with the stock Specialized seat that came with my Specialized Allez Apex Comp. It is fine for what it is but I do not feel it is worth writing home about.
Nevertheless, why do I find my vintage Selle Flite TI so comfy that I decided to get another Selle Flite + carbon + Ti for my Stigmata. I am in love with the way they feel under my heine! hahahaha. :thumb:
PS: We sick man who are into mechanical+electrical toys....there must be a Dr. Frankenstein gene lose somewhere. Just can't get enough of the amount of toys we hoard. Because, for me, 4-5 bikes, if that is not hoarding, I do not know how to define it! hahahaha. :thumb:
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Did a 20 mile ride yesterday with a good amount of hills. Average speed was 17.64 MPH.
I know that's a lot slower than most of you, but that wasn't too bad for me. Especially since I was working on only 3-4 hrs sleep and didn't fuel up as well as I should.
I am fully rested for today's ride and will make sure that I eat well before and during the ride.
George
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George, you and I could ride together. That is about my pace.
I still haven't taken my road bike out once since I moved up to Toronto. I just don't wish to give up a day on the trails.
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George, you and I could ride together. That is about my pace.
I still haven't taken my road bike out once since I moved up to Toronto. I just don't wish to give up a day on the trails.
Depending on length of the ride, terrain, and how I feel, my average MPH is usually in the 16-22 MPH range.
Glad you are enjoying the trails Josh. While it looks cool, it is definitely not for me.
George
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Ride with two fast guys today and was reminded if how far I have to go to hang with the big boys. I'm good on flats bit hills and headwinds killed me. My power output is actually pretty good but a 212 lb guy has to work so much harder than 150 lb guy. I'm just under 5'10" and need to be 175 lbs or less or find another group.
My training needs to include diet! Started Friday and so far so good! I may start another thread to track diet for anyone interested in joining me.
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Ride with two fast guys today and was reminded if how far I have to go to hang with the big boys. I'm good on flats bit hills and headwinds killed me. My power output is actually pretty good but a 212 lb guy has to work so much harder than 150 lb guy. I'm just under 5'10" and need to be 175 lbs or less or find another group.
My training needs to include diet! Started Friday and so far so good! I may start another thread to track diet for anyone interested in joining me.
Jack,
I would be interested in joining you.
Since I started riding a few months ago I have dropped 18 lbs and I am getting closer and closer to my end of October goal of being under 200lbs (I started out at 236lbs).
George
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George, congrats! That is an impressive accomplishment! I'll start a thread if someone else doesn't best me to it. We should also include weekly mileage.
I really busted my tail today because I feel physically ill. Don't think I could have pushed myself harder for 2.5 hours. Was going to do weight training today but I'll do it tomorrow!
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Cycling sure is a fun way of getting rid of a few pounds.
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2012 Cervelo R5 VWD or WMD (weapon of mass destruction)! Ha ha ha. Keep riding boys and gals.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/file-3.jpg)
Taken on my way home @Pier 17, NYC.
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Sweet ride!!!! Looks like a stealth fighter. Black and sinister.
I recent changed cleats on my Sidi's and noticed something interesting. My left cleat was completely worn out, it would barely engage but the right one was brand new. Hardly any wear on the right one. I'm pedaling with one leg ! I guess I need to focus on my right leg pedaling. Will also speak with my fitter to see wha he has to say. Have you guys experienced something similar?
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Good find on the cleats Jack! Definitely, I would consult your fitter about the cleats wearing out unevenly.
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Sweet ride!!!! Looks like a stealth fighter. Black and sinister.
I recent changed cleats on my Sidi's and noticed something interesting. My left cleat was completely worn out, it would barely engage but the right one was brand new. Hardly any wear on the right one. I'm pedaling with one leg ! I guess I need to focus on my right leg pedaling. Will also speak with my fitter to see wha he has to say. Have you guys experienced something similar?
Most of the wear on my road cleats has come from engaging and disengaging when coming to a stop - stop lights and whatnot. I unclip my right foot so its cleat gets the most wear. Are you unclipping with your left foot at stops?
I did just replace my Keo pedals because they were worn badly. They lacked the metal plate the newest versions have and the carbon wore away beneath the cleat. I now have a pair of the Blades and they are great. Fragile but great.
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Its not just clipping and unclipping. Don't forget contact with asphalt/concrete and possible slight scraping if you do a modified "Flintstone" stop. e.g. in a quick stop I have seen riders put a foot down before coming to a complete stop.
Most of the wear on my road cleats has come from engaging and disengaging when coming to a stop - stop lights and whatnot. I unclip my right foot so its cleat gets the most wear. Are you unclipping with your left foot at stops?
I did just replace my Keo pedals because they were worn badly. They lacked the metal plate the newest versions have and the carbon wore away beneath the cleat. I now have a pair of the Blades and they are great. Fragile but great.
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I don't recall if I use one foot more than the other. I believe I use my left a bit more (the worn out cleat) but I use my right as well. Hmmmm. :scratch:
I'll post a picture later but the cleat on the left side is completely worn out, I'm talking jagged edges at the toe, etc. The right has lots of life left in it and I'm keeping it as a spare. There are wear markers on my Look cleats and the left ones are shot. Will have to pay attention next time to see if I disengage the left more. I've had three knee surgeries on my right leg and perhaps I'm favoring it, subconsciously. This seems unlikely because I always try to pedal circles and push hard on both legs. Thanks for the advice and comments.
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Duly noted being out of shape, but main was it tough sleding today. 20-25 mph head winds, with gusts in the 30's.
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It is windy here in NYC as well. I switched to Zipp 303 Firecrest and the wind gusts were negligible. What do you guys think? Should I keep the 404? Hmmm...
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/file_zps6763fee9.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/file_zps21e05c42.jpg)
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Both are obviously nice wheels Levi. Personally, of the two, I am partial to the 303's.
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Thanks Jeff! I like the new three o three as well. :thumb:
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Nice wheels! What are the hubs that come with the 303's?
Rob S.
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Nice wheels! What are the hubs that come with the 303's?
Rob S.
Thanks! They are Zipp 88/188 hubs.
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Auction ends soon.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271061166461?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
2012 Eurobike wheels of the year.
Raising some cash.
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Auction ends soon.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271061166461?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649
2012 Eurobike wheels of the year.
Raising some cash.
Nice wheels and a nice bike.
Good luck with the auction.
George
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My newest bike purchase is a Garmin Edge 500, which allows me to post the following report of my ride in yesterday's Back Roads Century in Berryville, VA.
Dave at the Back Roads Century (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/226233319)
This is only my second century, and while it has some hills, it was easier than my first century. That was two weeks at the very hilly Civil War Century in Thurmont, MD, which this year featured a monster thunderstorm that hit me at about mile 80. We had cool and clear weather yesterday, which made for a great ride through some beautiful farm country.
The Edge 500 does have some cool features, but it's a bit hard for me to read the display while I'm riding with these old eyes (I'm 61). I've already ordered a Bar Fly (http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/03/13/bar-fly-puts-your-garmin-on-the-big-boy-seat/) to get the Edge 500 further out in front of the handlebars for easier reading, but I may eventually have to some cycling bifocals.
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My newest bike purchase is a Garmin Edge 500, which allows me to post the following report of my ride in yesterday's Back Roads Century in Berryville, VA.
Dave at the Back Roads Century (http://connect.garmin.com/activity/226233319)
This is only my second century, and while it has some hills, it was easier than my first century. That was two weeks at the very hilly Civil War Century in Thurmont, MD, which this year featured a monster thunderstorm that hit me at about mile 80. We had cool and clear weather yesterday, which made for a great ride through some beautiful farm country.
The Edge 500 does have some cool features, but it's a bit hard for me to read the display while I'm riding with these old eyes (I'm 61). I've already ordered a Bar Fly (http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/03/13/bar-fly-puts-your-garmin-on-the-big-boy-seat/) to get the Edge 500 further out in front of the handlebars for easier reading, but I may eventually have to some cycling bifocals.
Congrats on the purchase and ride Dave.
I just got my Garmin 800 last week and it is cool to capture all of this rich data.
I am trying to decide between the Bar Fly and K-Edge devices in terms of mounting. Right now I am using the stock mount and as you said, it would be nice to have the Edge out in front.
BTW, I couldn't access the link - it said that I didn't have sufficient privileges.
George
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I currently use Bar Fly on my road bike and stem mount on my Lynskey Pro29. Lots of options out there.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Merlin/1%20Cervelo%20R3/Bar%20Fly/6962d074.jpg)
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Clean look
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BTW, I couldn't access the link - it said that I didn't have sufficient privileges.
Thanks for letting me know. I'm still learning how to use the Garmin 500. I assumed simply copying the URL for the activity on Garmin Conect and pasting it into my post would work, but I can see now that it doesn't. Anyone know the right way to do this? TIA.
EDIT: I think the link is accessible now.
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Thanks for letting me know. I'm still learning how to use the Garmin 500. I assumed simply copying the URL for the activity on Garmin Conect and pasting it into my post would work, but I can see now that it doesn't. Anyone know the right way to do this? TIA.
EDIT: I think the link is accessible now.
What did you change to make it visible?
George
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What did you change to make it visible?
George
Clicked on the padlock icon in the first window of the activity to change it to unlocked. Seems obvious now that I think about, but, like I said, I'm still learning how the thing works.
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Hey guys!
I have no idea how to fix your Garmin problem. I usually just cut and paste my link and it works fine. Sorry!
Have any of you tried Strava? Lots of guys in my group are using it and they are addicted. It allows you to race other guys on the same segment of road and see how you rank. My friends are constantly fighting for king of the hill of some of the moderate hills we have around here. I haven't tried it yet but look forward to sharing my times and lack of speed with the group!
Finally tested the Domane 4.9 today (it was the only model they had at my LBS). All I can say is WOW! It was, by far, the best riding, most plush bike I have ever tested. I've tried the Cannondale Synapse, Specialized SWorks Roubaix, Giant Defy, and several others including my Trek Pilot CF. All of these bikes ride very well but the Domane puts them all to shame on rough roads, without any real weight penalty or lack of stiffness and acceleration. I bet we'll be seeing similar frame technology on other brands in the near future.
The Domane employs other shock dampening "tricks" in addition to the flexible seat tube, it has a front fork that is designed to reduce shock and bars with a slot filled with dampening material. I could easily ride this bike for a century or longer in total comfort. It's like a magic carpet crossed with a rocket. This was only a 4 series, the 5 incorporates a seat-mast, lighter carbon and custom color options. The matte/gloss black looks really nice (it was on a Madone but available for 5 series). Not sure about the red-white two tone the 4.9 comes with. Reminds me too much of my current bike.
They had a new Madone frame but it was not built up. Plus, I like the idea of being able to ride on REAL roads with a road bike without getting beat up. The Domane seems to do all of the things race bikes do, without beating you up. I'm sold on the idea but need to check my funds.
Also, I'm not a fan of Ultegra. The brakes are great and the front shifter is better than my Sram but I'm not a fan of the rear shifting. They had Di2 Ultegra on a Madone but the Domane had regular. Ultegra looks cool but I'd take Force or even Rival any day over Ultegra (non-Di2). The bike shop guy said the next generation of Dura Ace Di2 will have a battery that fits in the seat mast, completely hidden from the elements. It's not in my price-range so I'm not even going to try it (afraid I might like it and do something stupid).
Cheers,
Jack
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Jack,
Glad to hear that you enjoyed the Domane. It's nice that even though we rode different models and in different locations, that our observations were very, very similar.
I am looking at various Domane options right now (stock 5.9 with Ultegra Di2 or 6 series as a Project One bike).
If tvad will provide some funding, I may even go with the new Dura Ace Di2. :wink:
George
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BTW, here is the ride I took when auditioning the Domane 5.9 this past Saturday:
http://connect.garmin.com/course/2166793#.UGDDuPds97s.email
George
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Another tough day. 40-45mph wind today. Know snow is just around the corner so figured I better get out.
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Another tough day. 40-45mph wind today. Know snow is just around the corner so figured I better get out.
Glad that the winds weren't like that in the Boston area today. In fact, the weather was unseasonably warm and great to ride in. :thumb:
Tested my "final" bike on the bike audition trail (Giant Defy Advanced SL 1 with Ultegra Di2) with a nice paced 25 mile ride on a hilly course. Great bike and one of my two finalists (Trek Domane is the other).
It was nice to ride outside and not on my trainer.
George
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Warm for us too George. The wind was just a killer though.
Glad to hear of the progress. Decisions, decisions. ;)
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Yea, it's that time of year. Tick tock, tick tock.
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I decided to upgrade my Zipp 303 rear wheel to Shimano 11-speed. Needless to say, I no longer need my 2011 Firecrest Zipp 404.
--Wheels are SOLD--
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That's a great price for those wheels. Best of luck to you.
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Guys,
Now that I have my bike, I have begun thinking about training and measuring.
Right now I use my Garmin 800 to collect all available info (speed, elevation, heart rate, cadence) whether I am outside or inside on my trainor.
Any thoughts on power meters and if it is worth investing in one?
How would the info a power meter collects differ from the Garmin 800 and how could it help me train in a better way?
George
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A power device like the Powertap measures actual wattage. I know several people who have them and I have one as well. It's a very accurate way to determine your fitness level and measure improvements. It's Ant+ and works great with the Garmin. Works great for stationary and outdoor rides. Check out be book Traijing With Power for more info. There is an overview on Amazon.
Lots of other power devices like the Quarc (sp?) and crank based devices. These are expensive but they let you use any wheels. The PT is good because you can transfer the wheel to any bike. I bought mine used and like it a lot. The only downside is cost and weight penalty. Battery change is easy and fast and replacement batteries are cheap and last a long time. I have the Pro model, the older one.
There is a new one on the market that is crank based but it only uses alloy cranks. I'm not sure how well it works.
Good luck
Jack
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Guys,
Now that I have my bike, I have begun thinking about training and measuring.
Any thoughts on power meters and if it is worth investing in one?
How would the info a power meter collects differ from the Garmin 800 and how could it help me train in a better way?
George
If you have the scratch, there's no reason not to buy a PM. Wattage is really the only way to get a true measure of your effort while riding. HR is too variable, Avg speed is meaningless. But once you are measuring your watts, you need to decide how your going to use the data. So...what are your goals?
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Yep, what he said. Power is the only true objective measure of performance. Here is a review of the PT and a brief video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odhhnAn_NhY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2R0NeqUP4po&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccb9KxKR5WY&feature=related
Okay, the last one has nothing to do with Power Training, it's one of my favorite time trials from the '04 TDF. Fun stuff.
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Wednesday 11/7 ride. Photo taken in Angeles National Forest north of Los Angeles at an elevation of ~4500 feet. It's a 14 mile climb to here from the town of La Canada, CA. Incredible day. It was about 75 degrees when the photo was taken.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=70560)
Latest version of the road bike. Enve SES 3.4 clincher wheels replaced by Mavic R-SYS SLR. Cockpit and seat positions changed after recent fitting.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=70561)
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Love the Parlee Tvad. Big fan of Bob's works.
How do you like the Mavic wheels? Have a few friends who swear by them.
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How do you like the Mavic wheels? Have a few friends who swear by them.
They have a really nice ride quality, because they absorb road vibration. They corner better than any wheels I've owned. They're also 1295 grams/set, so they're lighter than my Enve SES 3.4 clincher wheels built with Tune hubs (which weighed in at 1335 grams).
I found the Enve wheels rode a little harsh for my taste, and their handling in cross winds was not nearly what I expected based on reviews. I found myself getting blown around quite a bit, especially on gusty mountain descents.
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My Zipp 303. What's next!?!
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Shimano Dura-Ace 9000 :thumb: :thumb:
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Levi,
Sure I already know the answer, but how do you like the 11 speed?
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Shimano did a great job with the Dura Ace 9000. Coming from their older 7900, I like it a lot! Shifting between cogs up or down felt really smooth. The Gear ratio was spread out evenly. I opted for the 11-28 cassette with my Rotor compact Q-Rings, I felt confident that I will never ran out of gears here in the East Coast. The shifter ergonomics and the shift actuation were effortless. It is an expensive upgrade but it is worth very penny. I needed a new Shimano 11-speed compatible rear wheel/hub.
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I reached the 13 lbs territory!
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Levi,
The bike is looking beautiful. There is only one thing I'd put on that bike to improve the look...ME! :thumb:
Under 13 lbs? That's one lightweight bike!
Ride safe.
J
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Thanks Jack. It is easy to pedal. All I need is to improve my riding technique. Having a responsive bike helps.
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Your bike's two pounds lighter than the UCI minimum. You're riding a lighter bike than any pro, cheater... :thumb: :lol:
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You are right. It is not UCI legal but it surely is a lot of fun goofing around local club rides.
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This is interesting from SRAM...$20!
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=71485)
SRAM Quick Mount
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More pictures of the bike...Manhattan bridge in the background
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4000 feet of climbing. 63 degrees average temp. Awesome.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=72062)
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Very nice picture. :thumb:
I am sure it was a great ride as well.
Lots of hills around here (Boston suburbs), but I have topped out around 2800 feet on the elevation.
Also, it will be a bit before we get a 63 degree day to ride.
George
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George, keep repeating those 2800 feet, and you'll be at 5600 feet climbed before you know it! :thumb:
It won't be long until the mountain roads here are either closed because of snow, or are unsafe because of black ice. Getting the climbing in while we can.
Having moved to So Cal from Buffalo, NY, I'll always remember the first ride I did in Los Angeles on Christmas Day. It was 70+ degrees and unlimited visibility. I couldn't believe the good fortune of being here.
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This is probably the most expensive cycling glasses that I have ever bought. :thumb:
It is like any Assos garment, it is high tech and second to none.
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Biggest problem for someone who does not have contacts or have good eye vision, fancy high tech cycling shields. Jealousy sets in! hhahaha. Levi :thumb:
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Ha ha ha... :thumb:
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ASSOS Glassos! Damn, you don't mess around. Those are the most expensive glasses on the planet. I don't own any Assos gear but know several people (rich ones!) who will wear nothing but Assos for long rides. Someday, I'm going to get a some bibshorts and jersey. I need to get a bit skinnier first because I've got an early start on my winter hybernation layer. Those glasses are worth more than my bike!
Cheers,
J
Video on the Assos Glasses:
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=PRODUCT_REVIEW&ARTICLE_ID=4494&RETURN=search&RETURNLINK=%2Fza%2FCCY%3Fsort%3Dpriority%2Basc%252Cscore%2Bdesc%26PAGE%3DSEARCH_SOLR_RESULTS%26OPTION%3DSOLR_SEARCH_PRODUCT%26CMP_ID%3DPD_MSN014%26rows%3D99999%26start%3D0%26q%3Dassos%26mkwid%3DesBa9HZIz%257Cpcrid%257C1619072169%26mv_pc%3Dr162%26y%3D0%26affiliateRefNum%3DR162%26affiliateRefNum%3DR162%26x%3D0%26facet.field%3Dsite%26facet.field%3Dbrand%26facet.field%3Dproduct_type%26facet.field%3Dcomponent_type%26facet.field%3Dapparel_type%26facet.field%3Daccessory_type%26facet.field%3Dgender%26facet.field%3Dsize%26facet.field%3Dreview_type
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That is a great review of the Zegho. :thumb:
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It is not the same. Not even close. LOL!
Women sporting Assos Zegho eyewear. You cannot under estimate them.
It is uncommon to see them with most expensive bikes , gears, legs and lungs to go with them @9,000+ ft of climbing over 110+ mile stretch. Please join our GranFondo New York, May 19, 2013 (granfondoNY.com)
Assos Zegho eyewear Gear of the Year 2012! (http://www.mensjournal.com/gear/gear-of-the-year-20121130/item/assos-zegho) find out why. :thumb:
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I'm stepping out of the glasses discussion.
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Those glasses cost more than my bike is worth! Also, I'm goofy looking as it is and could never pull off that look!
Levi is a handsome man and I'm certain those shades look very cool on him. Here are my new non-cycling shades. Sorry if my picture scares young children and ladies. I took it on my way home from the eye doctor to send to my wife. She laughed and said I look like a cross between a terrorist and bad cop. Exactly the look I was aiming for.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=72247)
Cheers!
Jack
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(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=72247)
OK Jack....just pull that car over to the side of the road..... :jester:
(http://feminema.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/super-troopers.jpg)
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I actually looked like a dork with the Zegho glasses on. Ha ha ha. :thumb:
@chris, most of my MTB riding buddies are cops.
@jack, you are funny guy but NOT funny looking.
@tvad, I still love my Oakley glasses specially the transition lenses.
Cheers!
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It surely adds value when you can wear them off the bike.
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/DF129090-3034-4F50-93BA-1CEAF7E9E2DF-27617-0000080C64624466.jpg)
Definitely not over weight in this picture. :thumb:
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:o
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Photos taken from Mulholland Drive, Los Angeles
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=72820)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=72821)
Snow on mountains in the distance
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Hollywood Bowl seating visible in lower right
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Nice cycling weather in CA!
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We'll after 10 inches of snow last week I am thinking spring is finally here. First ride of the season outside. Man am I out of shape. Still almost 60 out and it felt good to get some dust off.
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Glad you are riding again.
I felt like I had been riding all year long. Ha ha ha...check out my new toy (s).
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/BrandsCycle/SRAM%20QuickView/file_zpse962738c.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/BrandsCycle/SRAM%20QuickView/file_zpsc72bf0f1.jpg)
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I am going electronic!
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/BrandsCycle/Shimano%20Dura%20Ace%209070%20Di2/file_zpsc1bf6d02.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/BrandsCycle/Shimano%20Dura%20Ace%209070%20Di2/file_zpsa30468b1.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/BrandsCycle/Shimano%20Dura%20Ace%209070%20Di2/file_zpsca5d3c8f.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/BrandsCycle/Shimano%20Dura%20Ace%209070%20Di2/file_zpsebb53d9e.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/BrandsCycle/Shimano%20Dura%20Ace%209070%20Di2/file_zps347fb667.jpg)
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Congrats Levi.
I went electronic last fall (Shimano Ultegra Di2) and love it!!
Now that the weather is finally getting nice, time to continue my triathlon training outside!! :-)
George
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Wow! Very nice new additions. Let us know how you like the new Di versus your previous setup. Everyone I know who has made the jump loves it.
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Thanks boys! :thumb:
A few more pictures:
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/BrandsCycle/Shimano%20Dura%20Ace%209070%20Di2/file_zpse452ced2.jpg)
No wires!
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Junction box
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Etube project program for the Di2
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Now does it qualify as an E-bike? ;)
Not super related, but Thompson is said to come out with a blue tooth version of their soon to be released dropper post. Things are getting wacky in the biking world.
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It is a never ending innovation. SRAM now has an 11-speed road group however a little behind on electronic shifting like Campy or Shimano.
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@George, you know you can convert your Ultegra Di2 to 11-speed right? Simply change the rear derailleur to RD-9070 and a firmware upgrade **. Unlike the 7970 Di2 which has no upgrade capabilities.
**(RD-9070, 11-speed cassette, 11-speed compatible hubs and 11-speed chain needed ).
Congrats Levi.
I went electronic last fall (Shimano Ultegra Di2) and love it!!
Now that the weather is finally getting nice, time to continue my triathlon training outside!! :-)
George
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1 oz or 28.35g more and I am out of the 13 lb club. :thumb:
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/13lbclub_zps4a729c5c.jpg)
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Congrats Levi. Sure I'll make the move somewhere down the road. Maybe when costs come down a tad more. Other than the fantastic shifting, especially the front, the best thing they did was redesign the lever shape. No more bull horns.
Real easy to drop that extra ounce, and then some. Get some real wheels - tubulars. :green:
In all seriousness, imagine it will not take much to hit the sub 13 group.
Been a slow process for myself getting back out. Amazing how much your arse hurts when you do not consistently ride.
Stay safe out there all. Regards.
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@George, you know you can convert your Ultegra Di2 to 11-speed right? Simply change the rear derailleur to RD-9070 and a firmware upgrade **. Unlike the 7970 Di2 which has no upgrade capabilities.
**(RD-9070, 11-speed cassette, 11-speed compatible hubs and 11-speed chain needed ).
Thanks Levi.
Given that my bike has only been ridden a handful of times and is such a huge bump up from my previous bike, I am pretty confident that there aren't any upgrades in my immediate future. But always good to know that an option exists.
George
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Thanks Jeff!
I was thinking about going tubular for climbing and goofing around my local bike club. What do you suggest?
My frame does not support internal cabling so I had to deal with external wire setup. I am just fortunate my bike is black so you will not see cables.
I am training for the GranFondo New York so been riding all year. Saddle soar, is simply a pain in the you know what.
Congrats Levi. Sure I'll make the move somewhere down the road. Maybe when costs come down a tad more. Other than the fantastic shifting, especially the front, the best thing they did was redesign the lever shape. No more bull horns.
Real easy to drop that extra ounce, and then some. Get some real wheels - tubulars. :green:
In all seriousness, imagine it will not take much to hit the sub 13 group.
Been a slow process for myself getting back out. Amazing how much your arse hurts when you do not consistently ride.
Stay safe out there all. Regards.
You are welcome George. Just make sure your future wheel upgrades are Shimano 11-speed compatible. The rest will follow.
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Hi Levi,
I'd loved to ride the Fondo some time. Hear great things about it from a few people I've come to know.
With regards to the wheels, ultimately it may come down to the planned use. As you mentioned, climbing wheels. Or are you looking for something a bit more deep dish.
Personally, I think the Lightweights are top-notch. Though you pay for it.
Probably my second favorite, is Edge. Maybe followed by Hyperon's. The Campy wheels do not have the same zip as some of the others, but a nice solid, very comfortable wheel. Though a little more portly than the main players.
Not spent a lot of time on them, but the new Zipp Firecrest's seem to be nice.
Would love to spend some time on MadFiber wheels. Again, pretty pricey.
Last but not least, I would not shy away from Reynolds. That is what I have owned the most. Maybe not on the same playing level as some of the others, but not far behind, and mush easier on the pocket book.
At your weight, and for climbing, a good find would be some Edge 20mm wheels.
Keep me posted if you start looking. Regards,, jeff
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Will do. Thanks again Jeff.
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Here is my current setup with the battery relocated on the chain stay.
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This thread should be retitled, "Levi's What I Bought Recently".
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I love this thread and enjoy Levi's posts of his new acquisitions.
Jeff - aren't you due for a new bike soon? Not that you don't have beautiful bikes but I remember a time when you would buy new bikes like I buy shoes. Anything new?
I need a new bike but I'm having trouble deciding which one to get.
Cheers
Jack
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I actually have a blog site in the works. See some sports products that are interesting. :-)
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Polar RC3 GPS
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CycleOps PowerCal
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OSMO Nutrition
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Levi, cool stuff. Keep us posted on your blog. I really enjoy reading about all of your new stuff. Seeing all of the new stuff you have boutht makes me feel less guilty when I buy something! Just kidding, it's great to see all of the cool new gear on the market. Keep us posted on how you like those drink mixes.
I help develop those things for a living (along with alcoholic beverages, foods, etc.). It's fun to develop that stuff but most of the things on the market are gimmicks. In reality, Gatorade spends more on research than all of the other nutritional companies (possibly combined) and simple Gatorade powder is about as good as it gets from a functionality and efficacy standpoint. It's not sexy but the powder version is still the top choice of my Iron Man (masters in sports nutrition) friend. It's also the cheapest (unless you make your own).
I had a chemist whip up a container of mineral salts, the same formula (or very similar) as Gatorade uses. I put a small scoop in my water bottle and use a little drink mix for flavor (salt water tastes bad). It works great but I'm running low. Need to get a recharge!
Cheers,
J
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Thanks Jack. I've done several reviews on new products. However, we are still playing around with the host. Currently, it is at Wordpress but we need further customization to the site.
As far as nutrition goes, what works for me may or may not work for anybody. The OSMO active hydration is worth a try @$20. It only requires 2 scoops (2-4tbs) for a 16oz bottle so it is really economical to use. The taste is on the light side of strong. I used it on my GranFondo training which is 100+ miles and 8,900+ feet of climbing. No cramping whatsoever. You do need to eat because that is all it does is hydrate.
Note this is a super easy pace...I only burned 1,400 calories. :thumb:
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Hi Levi,
Thanks! For the record, I spoke with my nutritional expert friend. The label for that stuff is not compliant with FDA standards. It also contains lots of bicarbonate which can give you the runs. Standard Gatorade should work better and it's a lot cheaper. My friend worked for Gatorade for years and is an expert I this area. He is a beverage developer for a major company and has done several iron man competitions including the recent works championships and he's doing Kona this year. He's a time trial racer and is a demon on the bike. Intrus his opinion.
There is more snake oil in the nutritional supplement industry than in the audio world.
Cheers
Jack
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To each his own. Your body knows better. What works for me, may or may not work for you.
I am sure your friend is using Di2?
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To each his own. Your body knows better. What works for me, may or may not work for you.
I am sure your friend is using Di2?
Not being critical, he's a food scientist and the affects and efficacy of the materials in these products are well documented. Most supplements of this nature are hype with a dash of science thrown in for marketing purposes.
He just had a baby and is a food scientist. Those guys don't make enough money to buy super expensive gear but he's a big fan of di2. His main ride is a Ridley Noah with SRAM Red groupe. It's an aero bike but is not lightweight. He uses a solid rear zipp wheel during time trial competition. He's saving for the Specialized time trial bike but I can't recall the model name.
These guys at the Gatorade R&D center are very hardcore. They measure everything (including sweat dissipation, etc) and do extensive testing. I've got some nutritional articles I will dig up and post if its of interest.
Cheers
Jack
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Most scientists simply knows it all. Like audio engineers. Nothing else is better other than what they think is good. Sounds familiar? A real athlete knows what works for them may or may not work for others. Simply put, they dont impose their nutrition or training secrets. Let alone judge others products they have not tried. Everyone's metabolism is different.
It is a fallacy when someone judged A product by just reading the ingredients. I simply say to try it first then come back and let your body be the judge. ;-). Not your wallet. LOL! :thumb:
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Most scientists simply knows it all. Like audio engineers. Nothing else is better other than what they think is good. Sounds familiar? A real athlete knows what works for them may or may not work for others. Simply put, they dont impose their nutrition or training secrets. Let alone judge others products they have not tried. Everyone's metabolism is different.
It is a fallacy when someone judged A product by just reading the ingredients. I simply say to try it first then come back and let your body be the judge. ;-). Not your wallet. LOL! :thumb:
Hi Levi,
I think I gave the wrong impression. My friend said he was not familiar with the product but was wary of the ingredient statement since it did not follow FDA guidelines. Most legitimate companies have to follow FDA rules. Some things are conjecture but there is some pretty solid science behind some nutritional products and lots of snake oil. I did not look too deeply into it but I'm leery when a product doesn't follow standard established rules.
No doubt, there is lots of pseudoscience in the sports nutrition arena. More false claims than other shadey industries, including audio (maybe). If it works for you, maybe there is some efficacy in the product but a large % of the stuff out there is shady and laced with false claims or exaggeration.
Lastly, if you can't judge a nutritional product by its ingredients, we are in trouble. I'd hate to be a guinnea pig for companies who do not back their stuff up with solid research. Just because something costs a lot of money, doesn't mean it has any real science behind it. :nono:
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I see your point(s) Jack.
It is easy for me to try new items because they send me free samples and have "sponsors". So I simply try them and see if I like them. Like an audition. :thumb:
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I see your point(s) Jack.
It is easy for me to try new items because they send me free samples and have "sponsors". So I simply try them and see if I like them. Like an audition. :thumb:
I just sent you a PM. You are an experienced cyclist and a guy a genuinely respect. I enjoy your posts and appreciate how you keep this thread current and lively. Someday I hope to have a bike that is half as nice as yours! Even then, it will be too nice for my skill level!
Cheers,
Jack
PS - Sorry for sounding like a closed minded know it all in my previous posts! It was not intentional and I have a lot to learn about cycling and nutrition.
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No problem Jack. Ha ha ha...just ride!
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(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=80367)
Yes, a little of topic, but I ride this bike on the road sometimes.
My other bike is a Bianchi, Fuji, Schwinn, etc.
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"PREMIUM RUSH"..... :thumb:
After watching this DVD last night, I thought about this thread.....(http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/sport/roller-velo-skate/vtt.gif)
Here's the trailer... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn6ie1zCkZU)
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I haven't seen the movie Chris but sure looks fun. In real life, that is just not practical. Ha ha ha.
Bicycles does not have an edge when hit by a car or squeezed by a truck. Period. That's just my take on urban reckless bike riding.
How about some really nice and comfortable shoes? By far this is the best Sidi shoes I have owned!
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Nice shoes Levi. Big fan of the dial laced shoes. S-Works user my self.
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Thanks Jeff. I love the S-Works but had to get the Sidi for the speedplay soles.
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I need a pair of these! Where did you get them?
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Get your credit card out Jack. Sidi is typically not inexpensive.
That said, they are extremely well made and some of the longest lasting shoes on the market.
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I got them at BrandsCycle.com
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Love the dial in lace shoes - remind me of my Footjoy golf shoes that use their Boa technology, a similar approach.
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are those the new DRAKO LEVI?
I had the dominators for years then upgraded to the dragons at which point I concluded very stiff souls are hard on my toes and ankles. The things we sacrifice for light weight spinning efficiency
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Those are the road version of the dragon. Sidi Wire speedplay.
Like any Italian loafers...they are not for everybody. The first thing I did was replaced the inserts with something that has more arch support. The specialized BG fit soles are my favorite.
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Get your credit card out Jack. Sidi is typically not inexpensive.
That said, they are extremely well made and some of the longest lasting shoes on the market.
Hi Jeff,
I have a pair of Sidi Genius 5.5's that are a couple years old. Love them, but was looking for a deal on Ergo 3's and the shoes Levi just got. I'm a black shoe guy and need to find a pair of 44's! My current Sidi shoes are like new and I'm not sure why I need an additional pair, other than the fact that I really like the idea of a python style (isn't that what Specialized calls it?) system.
Has anyone tried Bont shoes? They are the CF ones from New Zealand company that you can mold and re-mold to your feet? They are like CF slippers made by a company that makes speed skates. Almost bought a pair but I'm not sure how their sizes run.
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Itching, should I pull the trigger?
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=80658)
Anyone want a Meivici? Anyone need new wheels? :D
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That's a sweet Parlee with Campy, Jeff. My friend is still loving the bike you sold him. Good luck with the sale of your Serotta. What is the top tube length?
Thanks
Jack
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Hi Jeff,
I have a pair of Sidi Genius 5.5's that are a couple years old. Love them, but was looking for a deal on Ergo 3's and the shoes Levi just got. I'm a black shoe guy and need to find a pair of 44's! My current Sidi shoes are like new and I'm not sure why I need an additional pair, other than the fact that I really like the idea of a python style (isn't that what Specialized calls it?) system.
Has anyone tried Bont shoes? They are the CF ones from New Zealand company that you can mold and re-mold to your feet? They are like CF slippers made by a company that makes speed skates. Almost bought a pair but I'm not sure how their sizes run.
I also have the Genius 5.5's and they are great!
While it is always great to have something new, I just can't justify buying new shoes right now (especially since I just shelled out some coin for a new triathlon suit).
George
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Yep, shoes can be expensive and I'm going to keep my existing shoes for another couple years. I cleaned them up and replaced the insoles. They look and feel like new.
If I am ever lucky enough to ride with Levi, people would look at my kit and mistake me for a homeless guy! A chubby homeless guy!
Cheers
Jack
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Just picked up my first road bike. It's a humble Scattante (Performace Bikes house brand) Easton Ultralite frame with Shimano 105 components. So far it seems like a fun little ride.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=80678)
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Congrats on your purchase!!
Now go out and ride. :thumb:
George
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I love the color scheme on that bike. Stealthy. I am saving up on a Lightweight Meilenstein.
What wheels are you selling Jeff?
Itching, should I pull the trigger?
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=80658)
Anyone want a Meivici? Anyone need new wheels? :D
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You are funny Jack.
Yep, shoes can be expensive and I'm going to keep my existing shoes for another couple years. I cleaned them up and replaced the insoles. They look and feel like new.
If I am ever lucky enough to ride with Levi, people would look at my kit and mistake me for a homeless guy! A chubby homeless guy!
Cheers
Jack
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You are funny Jack.
And I have my own cartoon!
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=80701)
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Finally got my first ride of the Spring outside yesterday. :thumb:
It's good to get off the trainer and on to the road.
George
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Recently compared Sidi Vent Wire to Gaerne Carbon G. Chrono. For me there was no comparison. The Gaerne are more comfortable than the Sidi (and I'm a Sidi owner since 2001).
Hand made in Italy.
http://www.gaerneshoes.com/product-p/chrono%20carbon%20white.htm
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Itching, should I pull the trigger?
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=80658)
I'm biased, but I'd vote yes.
I recently had an opportunity to buy a 2012 Pinarello Dogma 2 at a great price (authentic Italian Pinarello...not a Chinese copy), and I sold the Pinarello within four weeks. The Parlee Z5SL felt more responsive and lively, while still retaining the excellent Parlee ride quality. Just added Zipp 202 wheels and love the combo.
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Itching, should I pull the trigger?
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=80658)
Anyone want a Meivici? Anyone need new wheels? :D
Great bike!
Was one of the better bikes I tested last fall.
George
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George, I forgot what you wound up getting. What did you get?
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George, I forgot what you wound up getting. What did you get?
Giant: Advanced Defy SL 1
(http://www.giant-bicycles.com/_generated/_generated_us/bikes/models/images/800/Defy_Advanced_SL_1_ISP.jpg)
George
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Cool! Did you get the one with Di2? Nice bike.
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Cool! Did you get the one with Di2? Nice bike.
Yes.
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Here is my timing for the GranFondo 2013!
This was in a stormy weather. My guess, it is possible to do a 5hr century ride on a dry and flat course!
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/GFNY13results_zpsa7b42106.jpg)
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Great job Levi. :thumb: :thumb:
This year I am focusing on triathlons, but next year I definitely want to complete a century ride.
A GranFondo looks like a great way of achieving that.
George
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Thanks George!
That is a nice bike you have. Good luck with your triathlon event(s).
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Ok. Time for some GranFondo NY 2013 pictures!
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/GFNY13/sportograf-38239837_lowres_zpsc54a9f81.jpg)
Start of the race!
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/GFNY13/sportograf-38258451_lowres_zps1ae3fc47.jpg)
Dreamy
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/GFNY13/sportograf-38242315_lowres_zps94717aae.jpg)
Being chased downhill!
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/GFNY13/sportograf-38246971_lowres_zps277c20b1.jpg)
Sprint finish! :thumb:
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Great pics Levi. You're right, the weather does not look like it was the nicest.
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Thanks Jeff. Weather forecast was cloudy that day. Not so, the rain and wind pummeled us relentlessly. Many racers DNF.
Did you pull the trigger on the bike?
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Heard this commercial on the radio this morning...."Annual Everything Is On Sale" for Performance Bike... up to 70% off...
Here's the website .... LINK... (http://www.performancebike.com/bikes/TopCategories_10052_10551_-1)
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I like the Performance Ultra bib shorts. They usually go on sale pretty cheap and they last a long time. I like the older ones with the green chamois.
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I like the Performance Ultra bib shorts. They usually go on sale pretty cheap and they last a long time. I like the older ones with the green chamois.
I have a pair of these, but they just sit unused.
I greatly prefer the Castelli or Louis Garneau products. Both are significantly more comfortable for me.
If I knew then what I know now, I would have saved my money....
George
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There are lots of opinions regarding shorts and bibs. I have Castelli, LG, Performance brand, and a couple others. I like them all pretty well but the Performance with the green chamois are as comfortable for me as the others. I picked up three pairs for under $50 per pair and usually reserve the Performance for my stationary bike or for spinning. Stationary riding seems to be harder on shorts and the performance shorts wear very well.
Pearl Izumi are probably my favorites because the pair I have fits so perfectly and has great ventilation. What don't you like about the Performance? I don't like some of their stuff but their Ultra bibs work well for me.
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There are lots of opinions regarding shorts and bibs. I have Castelli, LG, Performance brand, and a couple others. I like them all pretty well but the Performance with the green chamois are as comfortable for me as the others. I picked up three pairs for under $50 per pair and usually reserve the Performance for my stationary bike or for spinning. Stationary riding seems to be harder on shorts and the performance shorts wear very well.
Pearl Izumi are probably my favorites because the pair I have fits so perfectly and has great ventilation. What don't you like about the Performance? I don't like some of their stuff but their Ultra bibs work well for me.
Padding isn't as comfortable as the others. Could also be that the others just fit me better.
For my last few rides (including today's) I wore my triathlon suit (Sugoi) and I am pleasantly surprised by how comfortable it is. Granted, these are short rides (15-17 miles), but it gets the job done! :thumb:
George
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Planning on a 50K ride on Sunday for charity...holy hell I am out of shape, this is gonna hurt. I was only going to sign up for 25k, but a girl got me to do the 50k....I guess I can do it slow.
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Josh, keep us posted! I look forward to hearing about your progress.
George - for short rides, I can't tell the difference between most bibs. Lots of people share your opinion about Ultras and lots like them. I've done century rides in mine without problems. You either like a thick chamois or you don't. Good luck with your triathlons!
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Josh, keep us posted! I look forward to hearing about your progress.
George - for short rides, I can't tell the difference between most bibs. Lots of people share your opinion about Ultras and lots like them. I've done century rides in mine without problems. You either like a thick chamois or you don't. Good luck with your triathlons!
Well said Jack. :thumb:
George
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A girl got you to do it... Hmmm...that always happens. You will be in pain but MAYBE its worth it. LOL!
Planning on a 50K ride on Sunday for charity...holy hell I am out of shape, this is gonna hurt. I was only going to sign up for 25k, but a girl got me to do the 50k....I guess I can do it slow.
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Got the new Bar Fly 2.0!
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/BrandsCycle/Bar%20Fly%202/file_zpsae65636c.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/BrandsCycle/Bar%20Fly%202/file_zpsda15b3a7.jpg)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/BrandsCycle/Bar%20Fly%202/file_zps1831bae2.jpg)
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Hey Levi,
Is the connection different on the new Edge units because the barfly looks different. I'm going to order one for my old 500. It looks cool. Thanks
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You now have an option for the 500 if you want to mount it closer to the bars or farther away like the 800/510. Likewise, it is a much cleaner installation for Di2 and EPS control module.
Here is the link for the 2.0!
http://www.tatelabs.com/bar-fly-20/
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Levi, Jackman, AC riders,
I don't want to side track this thread, but I need your opinions.
Have I screwed up?
I just bought a new Felt Nine 60 mountain bike ($850 usd) with good intentions. I actually thought after a 30 year hiatus from biking that I could still do it again. Dam, WTF, this is frig’in hard, oh shit there’s a hill, what was I thinking :banghead:.
I’m now converting my new MTN bike into a “local black top trail bike” with new Schwanbe Big Apple slick tires ($100.00) to ride on local black top trails until I get my ass in shape. The problem is, now I’m thinking I made a $1000.00 mistake because I should have looked more closely at Hi-brid bikes.
I did test ride 8 different bikes, Two of them being Hi-brids. To me, because I’m 5’5”/230LBS, the Mtn bikes just felt better and I liked looking down at that big fat tire and I liked the feel of the wide handle bars (again I'm a newbe). Bicycle weight at that time was not a concern, but now I understand.
Have I made a $1000.00 mistake buying a MTN bike/putting on slicks/for black top trail riding?
Would a Hi-brid bike have been a better choice even for someone my size?
I hate being GREEN :oops: Did I screw up :?: :slap:
My new Felt Nine 60 with Schwanbe street slick tires. The saddle is low cause I'm so frig'in short.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=81622)
I love being out here all alone. It's frig'in awesome.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=81623)
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Nice 29er wirenut! I don't think you made a mistake. That is actually a smart buy! We have plenty of those multi-shared paths here in NY. Your bike versatile!
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I have a set of those tires for my Niner Rip 9, full suspension 29er. Lots of fun on pavement, especially in the corners :thumb:
Also, try riding with your fork locked out if you haven't yet. With tires that large on pavement, there's really no need for suspension up front.
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Agreed!
Have a good ride!
I have a set of those tires for my Niner Rip 9, full suspension 29er. Lots of fun on pavement, especially in the corners :thumb:
Also, try riding with your fork locked out if you haven't yet. With tires that large on pavement, there's really no need for suspension up front.
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Did the 50k for that charity event (not fast, I was in a group of mtb'ers on their mtbs, I had a road bike). Did another 55k this weekend my my 30lb Steel SS with a friend (no elevation to speak of).
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Hey guys,
Good to hear you guys are out there racking up some milesand kilomerers. I did 30 miles on Saturday and another thirty on Sunday. Got dropped both days after fifteen but I didn't mind. Its good to be back with the group riding the back roads. My legs are like spaghetti after 25 miles. Fat and out of shape but working on both.
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I got a nice 45 mile ride in yesterday - pic of the St. Johns river in Fruit Cove, FL - 22.5 miles on the ride back was against the wind.. I hate wind!! :nono:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=82590&size=xlarge)
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Ha ha , Yes the wind , no hills but fl got that constant in your face wind , tuck in and spin and less be safe out there ...
BTW Lovely bike .....:)
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Ha ha , Yes the wind , no hills but fl got that constant in your face wind , tuck in and spin and less be safe out there ...
BTW Lovely bike .....:)
thanks ;)
Yes, lots of tuck but I would trade hills for wind any day. It seems that everytime I have a tail wind when I turn around to go back the wind direction has changed ;(
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Levi, Jackman, AC riders,
I don't want to side track this thread, but I need your opinions.
Have I screwed up?
I just bought a new Felt Nine 60 mountain bike ($850 usd) with good intentions. I actually thought after a 30 year hiatus from biking that I could still do it again. Dam, WTF, this is frig’in hard, oh shit there’s a hill, what was I thinking :banghead:.
I’m now converting my new MTN bike into a “local black top trail bike” with new Schwanbe Big Apple slick tires ($100.00) to ride on local black top trails until I get my ass in shape. The problem is, now I’m thinking I made a $1000.00 mistake because I should have looked more closely at Hi-brid bikes.
I did test ride 8 different bikes, Two of them being Hi-brids. To me, because I’m 5’5”/230LBS, the Mtn bikes just felt better and I liked looking down at that big fat tire and I liked the feel of the wide handle bars (again I'm a newbe). Bicycle weight at that time was not a concern, but now I understand.
Have I made a $1000.00 mistake buying a MTN bike/putting on slicks/for black top trail riding?
Would a Hi-brid bike have been a better choice even for someone my size?
I hate being GREEN :oops: Did I screw up :?: :slap:
My new Felt Nine 60 with Schwanbe street slick tires. The saddle is low cause I'm so frig'in short.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=81622)
I love being out here all alone. It's frig'in awesome.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=81623)
I do not think you made a mistake. The first few rides can be brutal especially if you are out of shape and it would have made nary of a difference if you get a road bicycle. The key is to never give up. Hey, I am also short but thanks be to the rides to work since this past Fall, I have lost quite a bit of weight and I can eat anything I want and still be trim and fit. 5'6" around 139-140 lbs.
Paul :thumb:
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Been out of cycling now for some 12 yrs and at 6 1" and 230 lbs I'm way above my past racing Weight of 184
Before jumping back on the bike i did 3 months of gym training on a stationary bike , IMO an absolute necessity before jumping back on a bike ....
Regards
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Wirenut,
Your bike looks cool. If you are comfortable on the bike and it fits you well, I don't think you made a mistake. The decision regarding thich bike is right for you depends on your goals and the type of riding you plan to do. If you are just looking for something to ride country roads and some off road riding, the 29" should be fine. The only drawbacks that I can see with this type of bike (compared to a road bike or a xcross bike) are weight and upright riding position (this could be a plus on down-hill or off road rides).
If you plan to log lots of hours in the saddle on paved roads, and you are concerned about handling and speed, a standard road bike would probably be your best choice. If you don't care about how quickly you finish and don't ride with a group of fast riders on road bikes, the bike you chose is fine. Putting road tires can get you a little more speed on paved roads but it's still a compromise compared to a road bike. Please keep in mind, I know a guy who rides a Surley Pugsley on technical, hilly, century rides and he's very happy. He can't keep up on hills with fast riders but he gets there eventually and he is a demon on downhill rides.
Down the road, if you hook up with a group of fast riders on road bikes, you may want to get a road specific bike. I enjoy the flexibility of drop bars when riding long hours on the road. They give you lots of hand positions and make it easier to get low to conteract a headwind. If you don't plan to ride long hours and want a good all-purpose bike, the one you chose appears to be a good choice.
You live in an area where there are lots of good roads. If you are riding alone, make sure you wear bright colors and have a flashing light on your bike. The advantage of riding with a group is safety; it's easier for a car driver to see a group versus a single rider. Also, if you do have an accident, there are people to call for help. A solo rider is more difficult to spot and if you get hit, the car may not stop. Make sure you tell someone at home your route so they can look for you in the event of an accident. Not to sound morbid but it's better to play it safe. Accidents with cars are too common.
Also, make sure you have a clean bill of health from your doctor before going out and hitting those big hills. A guy had a heart attack at last week's hilly century ride (I did not attend but my group did) and I'm not sure if he pulled through.
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I got a nice 45 mile ride in yesterday - pic of the St. Johns river in Fruit Cove, FL - 22.5 miles on the ride back was against the wind.. I hate wind!! :nono:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=82590&size=xlarge)
Yes but you have he right bike for wind! I ride in the Midwest and the wind is brutal at times. Hills are my number one enemy but luckily we don't have any around here. Whenever I ride hills I have a greater appreciation for my friends in Colorado and California.
Keep riding!
Jack
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Glad everyone is riding and having fun in the sun.
Finally, the blog site is up and running!
http://brandscycle.wordpress.com
--Levi
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Levi - nice work! I look forward to following your blog!
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Thanks Jack!
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Very cool Levi. Looking forward to following.
TD, living in Jackonsville for a few years I understand the wind issues. Can remember the bridge being shut down for wind.
Myself, getting a few miles in. Not as many as I'd like, but getting on the road. No new toys of late either.
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Finally getting some time in the saddle after focusing on triathlons.
Over the past 6 days I have logged 90 miles, including a nice 33 mile ride on Saturday (at a leisurely 15 MPH pace with a good amount of hills -was just under 2000 ft of elevation gain). I really enjoy riding even though the weather sucked (it was in the 90's with high humidity).
My goals for the next 6 weeks:
1. Ride 4-5 times a week - With one ride dedicated to hill work and one dedicated to distance
2. Increase my weekly totals to the 100-120 mile range
3. Complete my first half century
BTW, bought my wife a new bike and we did our first ride together on Sunday. We are going to try and ride 1 or 2 times per week together. :thumb:
George
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Glad everyone is riding and having fun in the sun.
Finally, the blog site is up and running!
http://brandscycle.wordpress.com
--Levi
Levi,
Looks good.
What are some of the future topics you are thinking of covering?
George
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Levi,
Looks good.
What are some of the future topics you are thinking of covering?
George
Thanks.
So far they have not sent me anything to write about. Do you have anything in mind?
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Not much activity here lately. Guess everyone is out getting the miles in.
Picked up a few toys to swap out sometime.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=84472)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=84473)
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Nice bling you got there! Looks lightweight. ;-)
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Thanks Levi. The TRP's are not the lightest, but a good compromise of power, modulation, and cost. The Arione is not the lightest either, but a fan of their saddles.
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Thanks Levi. The TRP's are not the supreme lightest, but a gold compromise of power, modulation, and cost. The Arione is notthe lightest either, but a fan of their saddles.
What brakes are you using before? I recently upgraded my brakes to Shimano BR-9000 from SRAM Red (2013). Shimano's dual-pivot design surely put down some leverage plus it matches my Di2 levers. I gained 10-20% more power. It has excellent modulation and control with just one finger from the hoods. However, it is 40grams heavier than my SRAM brakes. All in all with slightly heavier brakes, seatpost, stem, Di2 battery, and tires etc., my bike is no longer superlight. It is now in the 14 lb. club. :-)
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What brakes are you using before? I recently upgraded my brakes to Shimano BR-9000 from SRAM Red (2013). Shimano's dual-pivot design surely put down some leverage plus it matches my Di2 levers. I gained 10-20% more power. It has excellent modulation and control with just one finger from the hoods. However, it is 40grams heavier than my SRAM brakes. All in all with slightly heavier brakes, seatpost, stem, Di2 battery, and tires etc., my bike is no longer superlight. It is now in the 14 lb. club. :-)
From my perspective, 14 lbs is still pretty darn light!
Given that I want to lose 15 more pounds off me, I am not too worried about grams and gear. :lol:
George
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Just ride!
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Just ride!
Exactly!!
George
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Levi,
Fortunate enough to have and have had a few bikes over the years. Currently using TRP's, Bontrager's, and my trusty Dura Ace 7700's. All three of them are nice brakes. Not the lightest, not the most powerful, not the best in modulation, but all a very good compromises of that criteria.
Always been a big fan of Dura Ace's brakes, so I have no doubt the 9 series is great. Have a few friends who also have them, and it is all raves.
Agree George, just ride. But toys are fun. Glad to hear the weight is still coming off. Any triathlons coming up?
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Shims no brakes are excellent, especially the new DA. I like SRAM as well and fortunately live in a part of the country that is relatively flat so I am okay with any decent brakes.
I went to my local bike shop and messed around with a new CAAD 10 with dura ace. Very nice bike and it has me thinking about an acquisition. My Pilot is a grandpa bike and is not sexy in any way but it fits me like a glove and is so damn comfortable to ride. It rides like a Cadillac even on the bad chip and seal roads around here and I can ride for 5 hours plus with no discomfort. Make me have second thoughts about making a change. This bike is like a moderately attractive woman who cooks and has a good body...
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I have a CAAD 9 and I wouldn't call it super comfy. Its ok. Never got it properly and seriously fit, just the in shop fit. The aluminum frame is a teeth rattler.
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Levi,
Fortunate enough to have and have had a few bikes over the years. Currently using TRP's, Bontrager's, and my trusty Dura Ace 7700's. All three of them are nice brakes. Not the lightest, not the most powerful, not the best in modulation, but all a very good compromises of that criteria.
Always been a big fan of Dura Ace's brakes, so I have no doubt the 9 series is great. Have a few friends who also have them, and it is all raves.
Agree George, just ride. But toys are fun. Glad to hear the weight is still coming off. Any triathlons coming up?
Didn't mean to imply that toys aren't fun or that shaving a few grams isn't good. :green:
I know my "new" bike can be upgraded to with the newest Ultegra or Dura Ace 11 speed components. Maybe that's how I'll treat myself next year for completing Olympic and/or Half Iron Man triathlons :thumb:
As for August and September...I am targeting 1-2 more Sprint triathlons. After that, it is off to the body shop for my 6th surgery on my left knee. :cry:
George
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No worries George.
Sorry to hear about the knee.
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Intervals on the trainer yesterday nd 45 miles today. My legs felt great during the ride but I almost fell down the stairs when I returned home. Can't wait to get on the road for an hour tomorrow morning before work. I love riding when it's 70 degrees!
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Anyone interested in entering the glorious world of riding steel. Below frame is for sale.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=86521)
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Someone needs to buy that bike. It is a true work of art and beautiful design.
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Nice bike. What size? Good luck on the sale
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yes, please more info.
Once had a Nice Bob Jackson
I know ride a simple carbon GIANT DEFY. 105's.
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Nice 2 hour ride this morning. Too much of the Kentucky stuff last night for anything but a lesiurely ride.
On the frame, it is a Cyfac Spirit. Custom Columbus Spirit tubing - 57 top tube,
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I just ordered a Rotor Power Meter. Can't wait to start training with power. ;-)
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What program will you use with your new power data?
Golden Cheetah or WKO+ ?
I use WKO+ but I think the newest version of Golden Cheetah is right there with WKO+ and it's free.
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I am thinking about WKO+ but so far no Mac version. :(
Golden Cheetah it is. Thanks for the heads up!
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No problem.
Golden Cheetah is your best option with a Mac and I really don't think you give anything up when comparing it to WKO+.
I think it still uses Critical Power rather than FTP so you'll need to be aware of that when discussing your training. But I think that's it.
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Upgraded to. A set of Enve 3.4 wheelset, Tune Mag 170/Mig 70 hubs + sapim CX Ray spokes. The ship in the background is SS Intrepid. :-)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/Enve%2034%20tune%20hubs/B6808560-38A0-40B3-852A-BDB3F3C219CA_zpsxedn4sc4.jpg)
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Hey Levi,
Hope all is well. Pretty sure I know the answer, but how you liking the wheels? Had an old set of 38's, pre the ./dot naming convention.
Cool pic btw.
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Thanks for the complements!
I find the Enve 3.4 to be a solid performer. It is much stiffer laterally and radially than my Zipp 303. The 303 is more comfortable when the roads gets rough. However, the Enves seem to be a little faster.
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Damn, Levi! You always have the coolest new toys! Your bike is beautiful and the wheels take it to a whole new level. That's just looks, I'm sure it performs equially well.
I can't wait to get on the road. This winter has been brutal in Chicago. Seeing your bike remembers me of what I'll be doing soon. Do you have di2? I know more guys who have switched to electronic shifting over the last year and every one says he will never go back to mechanical. I love SRAM red and the new 22 looks really cool but I expect to switch to electronic someday. After testing it, I'm sold.
Cheers
Jack
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Glad to see everyone is preparing for 2014 riding. I have already ridden 700 cold miles here in Tennessee this year completing a 50 mile hilly/headwind ride last weekend under 3 hours. Not bad for someone approaching 70 not 60 and still working full time. I have added another Lynskey/Sram to the stable and plan multiple centuries this year. I am preparing for my 50th high school reunion in Indy where I will ride a bicycle from middle Tennessee to Indy (300 plus miles) in three days weather permitting.
Happy 2014 Cycling!
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I have a set of those wheels set aside for a new build too. They really are nice. Are those clinchers or tubulars?
But no new frame for me until Summer at least. I've decided to spend $$ on a long riding trip to Spain instead.
My crusty old bike will have to suffice.
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Yup, winter is brutal here in New York as well. I use Di2 9070 and so far so good! :thumb:
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We'll 3 rides in 5 days. Man my *** is killing me. Serves me right for the long layoff.
Come on Levi, I vicariously live though you. New stuff, great rides, etc.
George, how's the weight coming?
Jack, getting your miles in?
Tvad, Paul, Chris, Others, anything new or exciting?
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Well I'm in Spain and have been for the past month. Lots of miles so far. It's been a gorgeous Spring and the weather has been great.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=97765)
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AB,
Please post some pictures. Would love to see the landscape. Have to say I am a bit jealous. Above and beyond the scenery, would love to test these old legs against I'm sure some great climbs.
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I'll upload a few pics that look interesting.
The landscape's changed a lot in the last few weeks - from dry, early spring to verdant green SPRING.
It's an amazing area in any case and it's the best riding environment I've ever come across.
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More Pics from Girona area...
Fields of Rape Seed are everywhere.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=97973)
Typical one lane rural road. Lots of riding available on these.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=97974)
The Med from Sant Marti d'Impuries
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=97975)
Top of El Mont ( Mare de Deu del Mont) Lots of 10%+ climbing on this ride.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=97976)
Looking South from El Mont to Banyoles Lake
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=97978)
Typical Village and Church.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=97977)
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Beautiful, thanks.
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AB,
Awesome pictures! Thank you for posting. I love Spain and wish I had a bike when we visited. Lots of serious riders and pros on the roads when we were there. Travel safe, and feel free to continue to post pictures.
Jeff,
I hope you are still riding! I did a rough 50 miles yesterday and was dying when I returned home. I'm going out for 40 in a couple minutes. Feeling sore but not bad.
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We'll part of me is bummed I missed the Axpona show and meeting some of those I've gotten to know over the years. Though on the positive side, I had committed myself to volunteering at a winery festival about an hour south. Living in flat Indy, this is about as good as it gets.
So had some good vino(probably a little too much), plus some good mountains = legs are toast.
Here are few pictures of the weekend. And some I pulled from the web to show how pretty it is in the fall time when the leaves are turning. Great mountain bike scene too.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98571)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98576)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98578)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98579)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98580)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98581)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98574)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98577)
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A few pics from last week.
I took a break from riding and headed North to the renovated medieval city of Carcassonne in France.
Carcassonne France
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98689)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98690)
These two pics are from the ride up to the Col de Banyuls which is on the border with France. The town way down those switch backs is Banyuls sur Mer
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Looking back down the road into Spain.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98691)
The day after returning from France I lost the front end on a decreasing radius off camber corner at high speed - the FIRST corner of the day by the way. The resulting slam, bouncing bike and massive yard sale forced me to throw away my gloves, my helmet, my kit, my levers and spend my morning getting my busted collar bone sorted.
So that's that for riding this Spring.
I guess I'm going to try and heal up and go sight seeing in the Alps. Maybe in ten days? :duh:
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Nice pictures!
Just wondering what bike you have now AB?
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The day after returning from France I lost the front end on a decreasing radius off camber corner at high speed - the FIRST corner of the day by the way. The resulting slam, bouncing bike and massive yard sale forced me to throw away my gloves, my helmet, my kit, my levers and spend my morning getting my busted collar bone sorted.
So that's that for riding this Spring.
I guess I'm going to try and heal up and go sight seeing in the Alps. Maybe in ten days? :duh:
Ouch! Sorry to hear about the busted clavicle. Are you going to be able to let it heal naturally or are you going to have to get it Lance Armstrong'ed, e.g. have a clavicle plate put in?
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AB,
Wow, sorry to hear of the accident. Glad to hear you are reasonable ok though. Heal fast.
Keep the beautiful pictures coming though.
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Nice pictures!
Just wondering what bike you have now AB?
Same 7 year old Felt Z15. There are lots more scratched bits on it now.
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Ouch! Sorry to hear about the busted clavicle. Are you going to be able to let it heal naturally or are you going to have to get it Lance Armstrong'ed, e.g. have a clavicle plate put in?
No Surgery just a sling and time. I'm sure I could find a Doc who would do something surgically but it's in about as good a position and as stable as it would be with surgery.
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AB,
I've really enjoyed your pictures and wish you the best in your recovery. Broken collar bones are a PITA but are too common in cycling. I broke mine and completely ripped out my AC Clavicle (separation/dislocation) years ago. Unfortunately, the surgery was more painful than the injury.
Best of luck to you!
Jack
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Heal well AB.
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AB,
I've really enjoyed your pictures and wish you the best in your recovery. Broken collar bones are a PITA but are too common in cycling. I broke mine and completely ripped out my AC Clavicle (separation/dislocation) years ago. Unfortunately, the surgery was more painful than the injury.
Best of luck to you!
Jack
Thanks for the good wishes. Yes, broken collar bone stories are everywhere there are cyclists. This one is not much of a story so I mostly just listen. But the road rash is killing me. No tegaderm here that I could find and the weeping and sticking to the sheets is getting old. ;-)
I went for a walk yesterday...
These are occasionally found in your "amanida" (salad).
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98709)
Spring is very wet in this part of Spain.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98710)
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So beautiful! I love Spain and look forward to going back with my family sometime next year. We spent a week in Moncofa a couple years ago and fell in love with it. Beautiful Mediterranean coast, warm water, and lovely roads (didn't have a real road bike on the trip unfortunately) good food (if you like fish) and very nice people. Oh, and lovely ladies on the beach who always seemed to forget their bikini tops. Tragic! My wife confiscated my mobile phone and camera on day one. :scratch:
Good luck with the recovery and feel free to continue posting beautiful pictures!
Cheers,
Jack
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One more...
The other night there were two Nightingales singing out there at 2 a.m. Don't ask me how I know.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=98711)
I love it here too. I figure I'll heal up and be back for the Fall, miss the worst of the Winter and be back in late February 2015.
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SRAM is going electronic. Finally!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lifL7Bdq_IU&feature=youtu.be
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Yep, and Campy has a 4 arm crank. Wonders never cease.
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SRAM has been working on the electronic shifting for a while. Everyone I know who has gone elctronic (Di2) loves it. I'm still liking my SRAM Red and will use it for the next couple years at least. It shifts so much better than Shimano, but I prefer Shimano's brakes (although I hear the new generation SRAM brakes are very good).
I look forward to trying the new SRAM electro shifting! Lastly, I hear Campy's electronic shifting is better than Shimano but more expensive. I've never seen it in person but my bikeshop owner friend is a big fan.
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There is more information about SRAM electronic shifting at Bike rumor. Happy reading. :thumb:
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The prototype pictures of the sram shifters look nice - very clean. Imagine it will work well too. As does the current Shimano and Campy offerings. Wouldn't mind having it on my bikes(campy please).
Kind of like disc brakes though, while great and I love them, within reason unnecessary for much of road use. Unless you maybe happen to ride year round or in the rain.
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Kind of like disc brakes though, while great and I love them, within reason unnecessary for much of road use. Unless you maybe happen to ride year round or in the rain.
Agreed. Disc brakes are also great for off-road or just fooling around.
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I'm riding again. Thank gawd, was I bored...
No pain as long as I don't pull up on the bars - I negotiated up and onto a curb today, ouch.
Lots of fitness lost. I guess it's due a combination of time off the bike and healing. It'll be interesting to see how quickly it comes back - or not.
New pic from today. 12th Century bridge across El Retort(?) in Val de Campmajor. It goes nowhere but the creek is still there.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=99424)
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Scenic.
I figured you don't miss the Parlee?!?
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Scenic.
I figured you don't miss the Parlee?!?
Parlee? No Parlee for me. Though that would be nice. Z15 Felt not Z1.
Or have I missed it entirely? :scratch:
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Must have mistaken you for someone here. Hmmm.
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As one who has for 30+ years, and continues to do so, found the following Competitive Cyclist Article funny...............
Shaving Your Legs: A Calling Card or an Indignity?
It’s been 10 years since my last sanctioned race, and while life’s been nothing short of organized chaos since that point, I’ve had little more than one constant in my existence equation — shaving my legs. There’re a number of reasons that I could say as to why I do it, but honestly, most of those reasons would be complete and utter bullshit. In all honesty, the rationale is equal parts expressing a commitment to cycling and sheer vanity. And for 95% of cyclists, this sentiment rings true, regardless of if we admit it to ourselves or not. Really, though, there isn’t a faster way to get on my nerves than for a non-pro to spout off about road rash and massages — let’s just call it what it is. So, to try and inject a little honesty into the Cat 3 and up crowd, let’s dismantle the go-to responses to the outsider’s question of, “Why do you shave your legs?”
Reason 1: Road Rash & Crashes
Seriously? Race conditions are one thing, but if you’re riding objectives are limited to, well, just riding, you can go as fast or as slowly as you want. In other words, crashing is relegated to either a lack of skills or acts of god. And even with the latter, I’ve never been hit by a car and said, “Well that sucked, but at least my legs are shaved.” Approaching every day with a crash in the back of your mind also sounds like the saddest glass-is-half-empty existence that I could ever imagine. Cheer up, man.
Reason 2: Massages
Again, are you serious? The pros have earned the right to a massage after every stage, but they’re pros and we’re mere humans. And to compound this, they actually have masseuses under their employ, making this line of thought a total joke for nearly any non-pro. I mean, really, can you imagine anything creepier than a guy who goes to a massage parlor after every bike ride? Would you honestly want to be the local at a massage parlor, especially if you’re “the guy” who’s real specific about his legs? Weird.
Reason 3: Aerodynamics
I don’t really want to dignify this with a response, but if I were compelled to, I’d say that Contador would rip your legs off with hairy legs or not. I don’t put much confidence in the Kyle study, either. Scientific conclusions need to account for variables, and I’ve never seen a graph that correlates millimeters of hair length with drag coefficients. Sorry, I’m just not buying it.
Now, the Reality
There’s a hint of truth behind all of the aforementioned reasoning, but sadly, they don’t really apply to very many of us. There are, however, smaller reasons that would make sense to other cyclists, like applying embrocation and sunscreen, or eliminating chafing from grippers over hairy legs, but no cyclist would really ever ask you about shaving your legs in the first place.
The real reasoning requires confidence in your rationale — I’m a cyclist and this is just what cyclists do. It’s a tradition that acts as the division line between the committed and the recreational. Indeed, it is a jumping off point, and after a short while, the act becomes second nature.
Now, while the tradition aspect is certainly true, the tradition of vanity has an even longer running precedent. When you shave, you discover muscles whose definition was previously shrouded in fur. You look stronger, and to an extent, you feel stronger as a result. In a way, it’s kind of like detailing a sports car — the outside looks clean, so the inside feels faster. There’s no shame in it, and the vanity of the shave is all part of the heritage of road cycling anyhow. Historically, we’re a contingent of bizarre, skinny outsiders, and much like the hidden placements and secret meanings of a Russian prison tattoo, our shaved legs are an instant identifier, worthy of a head nod, for those in the know.
You see, if you feel compelled to defend the logic behind shaving your legs, you’re feeling some undeserved indignity towards your own culture. All that I ask is that you own it, accept that it’s a little weird by society’s standards, and admit that it just sort of looks cool and feels good. No one is going to really understand, but who has time for that when there are bikes to ride?
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Good article. I know for sure shaving legs looks good in the picture. :thumb:
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/GFNY14/GFNY14-48865838_lowres_zps27b51d99.jpg)
Granfondo NY 2014
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Great pic Levi. Can't quite make out the tag, the Fondo?
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Thanks. GranFondo NY!
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This is what I've been riding on the road.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=100497)
:thumb:
Old fixied Schwinn
Brakes just in case
Been riding it on my loop for a while, great ride.
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Classic! Nice bike!
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Thanks Levi,
It's nothing like the beautiful bikes that you and others post, but it's functional.
That's a great picture above. Poster worthy.
Where did you finish in the race?
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Cool bike! You need to get some derailers on that puppy! I have a friend who rides a modest aluminum Giant that is probably ten years old with thousands of miles, on original wheels and at least 20 lbs and he crushes people every week. It's got gears and is set up perfectly for him but it doesn't stop him from being a fast guy. Glad to see more people riding.
Tragic weekend for my group, my friend Mike, who is a leader of our bike group, was hit by a car during a ride. A young man blew a red light with a car and hit my friend. He's in bad shape with broken ribs, punctured lung, three cracked vertebrae and torn knee MCL but he expects a full recovery. It's going to take a while but at least he's alive. His Specialized S-Works Roubaix didn't fair as well but the SRAM Red is probably salvageable. I feel bad for him because he was in the shape of his life and was one of the fastest riders in the group this year.
Be careful out there!
J
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Thanks Levi,
Where did you finish in the race?
Thanks! I finished 87th out of 500 riders in my category. :thumb:
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Cool bike! You need to get some derailers on that puppy! I have a friend who rides a modest aluminum Giant that is probably ten years old with thousands of miles, on original wheels and at least 20 lbs and he crushes people every week. It's got gears and is set up perfectly for him but it doesn't stop him from being a fast guy. Glad to see more people riding.
Tragic weekend for my group, my friend Mike, who is a leader of our bike group, was hit by a car during a ride. A young man blew a red light with a car and hit my friend. He's in bad shape with broken ribs, punctured lung, three cracked vertebrae and torn knee MCL but he expects a full recovery. It's going to take a while but at least he's alive. His Specialized S-Works Roubaix didn't fair as well but the SRAM Red is probably salvageable. I feel bad for him because he was in the shape of his life and was one of the fastest riders in the group this year.
Be careful out there!
J
Having ridden motorcycles in the past, when I ride I assume every vehicle doesn't see me. Having ridden Paris streets for years, every pedestrian is going to step right in front of me. This is always how I ride.
Hope your friend heals quickly and well.
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Really sorry to hear about your friend Jackman. Thoughts and prayers.
I do have other bikes with shifters on them. I'll take a picture.
Saved the Schwinn from the scrap yard. Nice old iron. Favorite bike at the moment.
Charmerci, I'm going to put riding a bicycle in Paris on my list. I'm envious.
Levi, way to go. That's a lot of racers that finished behind you. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Could you tell us something about how you train.
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Sorry to hear about your friend Jack. We all need good luck riding out there.
As far as training goes, you need to have a plan or racing goal. Then once you have that, simply do the mileage and train to where you will be racing "train the terrain". My take is train hard, race easy. :-)
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Sorry to hear about your friend Jack. We all need good luck riding out there.
As far as training goes, you need to have a plan or racing goal. Then once you have that, simply do the mileage and train to where you will be racing "train the terrain". My take is train hard, race easy. :-)
Thanks Levi, and congratulations on your impressive finish. You are a strong rider and you have a really cool bike!
My friend is doing better but he's got a long recovery ahead of him. Hopefully he will not need back surgery or knee surgery. His ribs will heal along with his lung. He's a very fast cyclist who has finished several sub-5 centuries along with 100 mile hill climb rides. More impressively, he's the leader of our group and he always goes out of his way to help out new riders. Not being on a bike is much more torturous to Mike than any crash related pain.
Take care!
J
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This is the ride I have using as a commuter since last week.....after a taller Nitto quill replacement and custom wheelset with Velocity Dyad rims. (http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=100686)
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Good to know you are riding Paul.
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Good to know you are riding Paul.
Thanks Levi. The only bummer about using this Bianchi with skinny 25c tires are the flats. I got 2 flats in the same day. The first in the back wheel....it was a pinch flat which I confirmed at work....and thanks to a spare tube, I was delayed only 15 minutes to get to work but on the way back, after I parked my bicycle, I returned hours later to see that the front was also flat. I also suspect it was a pinch flat. I guess I need to make sure that the pressure on both tires need to be 100 PSI all the time. Not that I am heavy but I do take cargo on a pannier.
I never had a flat on my Santa Cruz Stigmata when I used it to commute....of course much lighter bicycle, also the tires were 35cs.
I wonder how people who ride on 25c make sure that their rides NEVER pinch flat. Do they all have a track pump at home?
Paul
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This will fix your flat problems. http://www.bike24.com/p230630.html $6000 for a set of clinchers. It is still cheaper than audio. :thumb:
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It's kind of weird that way. I've gone over a year without flats and then bam! - a couple of flats within a few days. :scratch:
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Hi Levi,
I got your wheels right here..... :thumb:
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=100990)
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That's it! Can I borrow them? :-)
Hi Levi,
I got your wheels right here..... :thumb:
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That's it! Can I borrow them? :-)
Sure. But first I need to buy them, then second you need to come to Hong Kong to try them. :o
And don't forget to bring your check book when you come too...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=101012)
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This will fix your flat problems. http://www.bike24.com/p230630.html $6000 for a set of clinchers. It is still cheaper than audio. :thumb:
jajajaja.
I was going crazy attempting to identify what was the problem....then I fixed the front flat.....I pumped to 100+ pSI.....left it to ride next morning. Then, I wake up, go there and I feel the tire....a little mushy. Pump more to 100 Psi again....then I hear more air leakage. Hell, I ditch the bike and with a bicycle jersey, helmet on, I ditch the bike and drive to work.
I was obsessing about tube quality the whole day and then, I get home, check the fixed tube and I notice that there is another place where the leak is occurring. I swapped the tube with a new, cyclocross tube, with thicker wall, something I got 8 for $5.99 closeout when HucknRoll was closing them out. The tube holds the pressure much better, but then I still wonder why some tubes are better than other in holding these insane pressures. My other ride, I rode 2 weekends ago and still keeping pressure well.
Oh well. The puzzle of riding skinny tires in shi--y roads in NYC. I noticed it not too much when riding thicker tires.
Perhaps I will need to take out my Santa Cruz High Ball and shocks, to ride without all these hassle.
Paul :thumb:
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It is all good!
Happy Father's Day guys!
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jajajaja.
I was going crazy attempting to identify what was the problem....then I fixed the front flat.....I pumped to 100+ pSI.....left it to ride next morning. Then, I wake up, go there and I feel the tire....a little mushy. Pump more to 100 Psi again....then I hear more air leakage. Hell, I ditch the bike and with a bicycle jersey, helmet on, I ditch the bike and drive to work.
I was obsessing about tube quality the whole day and then, I get home, check the fixed tube and I notice that there is another place where the leak is occurring. I swapped the tube with a new, cyclocross tube, with thicker wall, something I got 8 for $5.99 closeout when HucknRoll was closing them out. The tube holds the pressure much better, but then I still wonder why some tubes are better than other in holding these insane pressures. My other ride, I rode 2 weekends ago and still keeping pressure well.
Oh well. The puzzle of riding skinny tires in shi--y roads in NYC. I noticed it not too much when riding thicker tires.
Perhaps I will need to take out my Santa Cruz High Ball and shocks, to ride without all these hassle.
Paul :thumb:
There's always inner tube sealer. I don't know how well it works with road bikes but on my mountain bike it's been great. A couple of times I didn't even know I had punctured a tube until a week later when I wanted to ride again. The only downside from my perspective is that the sealant tends to gum up the valve.
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New Frame. 2014 SLR01
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=101664)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=101665)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=101666)
It'll be a while before I get it built up. I have all the parts, they're just in different places where I'm not.
And yes, that's an Ikea couch. :lol:
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Sweet. Not had the pleasure if riding a SLR yet. Hear great things from those that own.
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Congrats on the new bike AB! I am a fan of the subtle color scheme.
How much does it weigh?
Cheers!
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Thanks.
It should be a good bike. I'm looking forward to getting it built and on the road.
The weight? I haven't weighed it but from what I have read the frame should be under 800 grams and with seat post, fork and headset it's supposed to be under 1400 grams.
As for the color, I'm glad you like it, Levi. For me it's a bit dull - it's really very matte and the grey just about disappears. But once it's built up, it should be cool. I do like the funky raw look of the CF - it already looks like it's been dropped. :wink:
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That color has a purpose. To be as light and fast as possible. A Rocket ship on 700c.
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I've negated that no paint lightness a hundred times over already. :lol:
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There's always inner tube sealer. I don't know how well it works with road bikes but on my mountain bike it's been great. A couple of times I didn't even know I had punctured a tube until a week later when I wanted to ride again. The only downside from my perspective is that the sealant tends to gum up the valve.
I prefer using protective strips. Much less rotational weight too. (I'm cheap - sometimes I'll just line the tires with duct tape! :o )
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(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/My%20Cervelo%20R5/IMG_3674_zpscfd7d49d.jpg)
New shoes!
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Damn, that bike is looking good Levi! What are those Mad Fibre? Your bike is way too cool for someone like me to be seen on. Everyone would point and say, look at the fat dude on the cool fast bike. At least you are fast and can take advantage of the cool high tech ride.
I just did RAGBRAI and met some really cool, fast riders, and a lot of fat, nice slow riders. I'm somewhere in the middle, at the moment. Looking forward to knocking off a few miles this weekend.
Are any of you guys on Strava? Let me know and I'll follow you.
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Thanks Jack. Just ride and don't worry about others think. I knew a local guy who is way over his BMI needless to say he does not ride but he had $60k in his 3 bikes. He has the new Trek Emonda SLR 10 w/ lightweight wheelset, an S-Works Roubaix with same wheelset, and a Lighweight bike! :-). He just like to buy the latest bikes money can buy. We don't judge him for that, instead we encourage him to ride more.
My wheels are Lighweight Meilenstein black edition. ;-). It's luck a good set of speakers.
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Nice.
Are you now done with this bike? What else is there to do? Team bus? :thumb:
Insure the crap out of it.
My bike just went missing via airline. And my wheels have gone missing via UPS.
I am 7000 miles from home with no bike on a bike trip.
:duh:
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Hi Levi.
Nice bike.
25 years ago I had a bike similar to that one,
but was probably twice the weight, at that time no carbon fiber stuff.
At the time, I've paid 500 $ for it.
One thing I don't like about the new bike generation, is their seat, way too narrow.
I don't know how you find the comfort of such narrow banana like seat?
Other than that, I would sure like to have a bike like that,
but not here on planet Vietnam,
it would get stolen within the first day of ownership.
Guy 13 on planet Vietnam.
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Thanks guys! Just keep riding!
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Sweet wheels Levi. Please tell me you've seen the tubular light though. ;)
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Ha ha ha. It's clincher. Thanks for the complement.
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This summer I've decided to abate any effort to run and starting biking again. I've resurrected my 10 speed with a quasi refirb and it's operating like a champ; smooth and refined. I originally got this Road Ace circa 1980. Everything is original except for the gum walls. There is a most excellent 4.3 mile bike/walk path that our town installed and you can't get much better in terms of isolation and a near perfect road surface. I'm rediscovering the biking experience and must say, it's awesome. No more pounding as it were.
It's a Maruishi Road Ace 303. Need to add a few more safety pieces and then it's compete.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=103992)
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Love classic bikes! Suggest you rotate that front QR skewer, so that the lever is parallel with the fork leg.
This summer I've decided to abate any effort to run and starting biking again. I've resurrected my 10 speed with a quasi refirb and it's operating like a champ; smooth and refined. I originally got this Road Ace circa 1980. Everything is original except for the gum walls. There is a most excellent 4.3 mile bike/walk path that our town installed and you can't get much better in terms of isolation and a near perfect road surface. I'm rediscovering the biking experience and must say, it's awesome. No more pounding as it were.
It's a Maruishi Road Ace 303. Need to add a few more safety pieces and then it's compete.
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Love classic bikes! Suggest you rotate that front QR skewer, so that the lever is parallel with the fork leg.
Done. Thanks. With the right motivation and conditions the Maruishi can motor.
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My bike:
Custom Columbus steel. I recycled the drivetrain from my circa 2000 Trek to save on costs (It was still in great shape). Added some other nice bits like Thomson stem and post, Deda handlebars, Spinergy Wheels. A little heavier than what I am used to, but a lot nicer ride.
(http://www.wiseheadproductions.com/ftp/photo/bike/my-bike.jpg)
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Here is a youtube video about using wind tunnel to see if hair on the legs makes a difference.
In the video, the independent variable is the hair on the athlete's legs obviously. ;-) Please let me know your thoughts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZnrE17Jg3I
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Never thought it could take so much time off! :o
Funny stuff....
http://blogs.bicycling.com/blogs/thehub/uk-cyclist-creates-giant-bicycle-route-strava?cid=socBL_20141006_32956686
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Updated picture of my system. That bike looks, sounded so real, and palpable. ;-)
(http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s43/ofier/3CB62B1F-1446-46A7-8C8B-516462EDCC75_zpsuvilzk3d.jpg)
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Levi, that's an amazing center image! Very lifelike but I suspect it lacks weight...almost weightless in fact!
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Nice! That looks like it added a lot of "power output" to the system!
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Ha ha ha...good one!
Levi, that's an amazing center image! Very lifelike but I suspect it lacks weight...almost weightless in fact!
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Since it is cold and windy out, I figured I update everyone here.
My Garmin 510 support for Di2
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My last ride was on Feb 8th, 42 miles averaging 15mph on a Trek 2.3. Then we ran into more cold weather, then ice and snow. My threshold for winter riding is temps in the low 30s under calm conditions (wind 5mph or less).
How about you? There's a ride leader around here (Baltimore County) who led a ride last week when temps were still in the single digits.
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Since it is cold and windy out, I figured I update everyone here.
My Garmin 510 support for Di2
That's great. I've never owned a cycling computer, never having been a fan of electronic things on a bike (except for Di2). Would you recommend the 510?
Also, how quickly does the SM-EWW01 drain the battery? (I want to avoid the situation where the nurse wakes me up to administer the sleeping pill.)
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Hopefully, this is not too late. I highly recommend the Garmin Edge 510 but if you require a larger screen and a map, The Edge 1000 is next in the Garmin line.
I can toggle between different pages/screen with my Di2 9070 top buttons. Battery life is good even with the remote Di2 transmitter. You can monitor battery life in your Garmin device. No more night sweats. :thumb:
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I just converted my 3G Beach Cruiser to an e-bike with the conversion kit from Clean Republic. I like it because it's front-wheel based, so I just needed to change out the front tire, no need to mess with the rear wheel or gear shift at all. Just put on the front wheel, attach the battery to your frame, run the wires to the handlebar and to the front wheel. Done.
It's nice that it's front wheel based because you can still pedal the rear wheel like normal and you've converted your bike to an "all wheel drive", haha. And it does a great job helping me power up some of these insane hills that I live right in the middle of.
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Incoming....................having a bad riding summer, so thought a little motivation might help.
I'll swap out most of the parts, more of a Campy person, but looking forward to it.
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=123828)
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Looks like a sweet ride. What does that baby weigh? About 17lbs?
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Are there any sites dedicated to individuals selling bicycles and parts? I would like to use one to find prices and then advertise on Craig's List so I do not have to ship. If possible I could also advertise on that site for local pickup only.
I did check eBay for prices but don't want to sell there.
Thanks for any help.
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(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=146434)
My 1993 Bridgestone XO-1, an incredibly versatile, fast, and fun bike, I've done centuries, commuted, ridden in the woods, and fire roads out west. It has relaxed road geometry, 26" wheels that will fit tires from 1" road to 2.0" knobbies. It has become a very collectible cult bike with stupid high prices, but I'll never sell mine.
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Are there any sites dedicated to individuals selling bicycles and parts? I would like to use one to find prices and then advertise on Craig's List so I do not have to ship. If possible I could also advertise on that site for local pickup only.
I did check eBay for prices but don't want to sell there.
Thanks for any help.
There are (were) some vintage specific sites that included classifieds. Next time I'm at my computer I'll see if I bookmarked any. There are also Google groups for some brands, like Rivendell.
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Some info in the classified here:
http://www.roadbikereview.com/
George
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Nice Bike Ladydog!
@Don_S, there is a group page on facebook called Tri-n-sell. You can join and become a member of the group to see the listings.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/trinsell/