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Title: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 12 Apr 2018, 12:45 am
Photo of Proto/Concept PH 9.0 Tube Phono Stage, MM/MC 48dB/68dB. Price TBD (<$3K)

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=178701)

At Axpona Chicago (April 13-15), the PH 9.0 can be seen and heard in Room 604 with Studio Electric, ModWright and Zu Audio.

Features include MM and MC inputs, on-the-fly resistive loading for MC (MM = fixed 47K load), mono/Stereo and mute. Gain is currently set at 48dB MM and 68dB MC.  I may also offer a -6dB/-12dB attenuator switch to allow greater flexibility for different MM/MC cartridges.

I am also seriously considering as an add-cost option, transformer coupled XLR outputs for fully balanced drive. I have not determined the add cost for this option yet.

Some have also asked about a MM gain version only, to be used with separate step-up transformer.  I am also taking this into consideration.  This would be a lesser cost option of course, but I have not set a price.

This is merely a concept/proto.  It was built as a two box design, but I am considering making it a one-box design with aesthetics similar to our SWL 9.0 Anniversary Edition preamp.

(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=145059)

Feedback and input about all of the above is certainly welcome.

Thanks,

Dan W.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Bob Stark on 12 Apr 2018, 12:57 am
Hey Dan,

I really like the one box look if you can make it sound about a good as the one with separate power supply.  It also saves space of my rack, which would be a problem otherwise. 

How quiet is this or how quiet do you think it ill be?

Could use another MW product to go with my awesome MW 5400 you made for me.

Bob
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 12 Apr 2018, 01:03 am
Hi Bob, I am confident that if I lay things out properly, transformer orientation, shielding, separation, etc., it will be as quiet as the PH 150. Most importantly, the family sonic resemblance to the PH 150 ($7900 Reference Phono) is QUITE obvious in this < $3K design!

As it is made in the two box design, when put side by side, it is noisy.  Separate the two boxes by 12" or more and it is quiet.  However, and again this has to do with transformer orientation, when I put the two boxes face to face, close, there is VERY little noise at all!  So, I am confident that with the correct orientation, shielding and layout, the one box design will be just as quiet as the two box when separated.

It is for the reason of space and ease of installation in this regard that I believe the one box solution to be ideal.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: ArthurDent on 12 Apr 2018, 04:10 am
Looks good Dan. Definitely keep some flexibility for different MM (or moving iron, ie Grado) in the mix. I need to pop the hood on the LS 100 to swap the front tube to decrease gain as recommended for my vintage Grado G1+.

JD
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: JMosch on 12 Apr 2018, 11:30 pm
Hi Dan,

First off, thanks for taking the time to ask some customers.

I absolutely love the phono stage in the LS-100. I can change gain/sound via rolling tubes. It's a great thing.

So I vote for flexibility within the given constraints.

So a base unit that is MM only with fixed gain. This would be lower cost. Then you can have an upgraded unit with basically the same stage, but with built in SUTs. The SUTs can have optional winding engagements for different gains etc.

As far as the one or two box design goes, two boxes gives you the option of upgrade paths for the PSU, or even the umbilical. So I would vote for that.

Thanks,
John

Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 13 Apr 2018, 01:24 pm
Thank you all.  I have already pretty much decided to go with two boxes.  I believe the phono enclosure will also be of a smaller width at least, i.e. not full 17" wide, but closer to 1/2 width plus.

I agree about the flexibility idea and will be sure that there is good flexibility with regards to gain and the use of step-ups.

Last night at Axpona Chicago (show), we had finished setup and were listening to records through the PH 9.0. Dave Macpherson (Studio Electric speakers) and I played all kinds of records from a Reggae album that he engineered to some great jazz and 80's rock. It was thoroughly enjoyable to just relax and enjoy the music!

The PH 9.0 is very quiet! It is being used here with a Fern and Roby TT and the cart I need to ask about.  I think it is a Hana(?).  I need to ask the guys who mounted it on their table, because it REALLY sings!

In this case, because of lack of space, we literally put the supply on the floor behind the setup. I like this flexibility and have decided that the supply will be as basic as possible (in terms of the enclosure) and will house the transformer, choke and only the most basic parts of the power supply.  The regulation circuitry, etc. can all reside in the phono box.

I am very happy with this product and excited to release it! I have to have the chassis made of course and there are some final R&D details, but I will be putting together a Beta Tester list and the first units will be sent to the Beta team for feedback.

Thanks,

Dan W.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: dminches on 14 Apr 2018, 02:48 am
I had the pleasure of hearing the PH 9.0 today and it sounded great.  This is going to be a great addition to the MW product line.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 14 Apr 2018, 03:05 pm
I am quite pleased with the sound that we are getting with Studio Electric M4 Monitors and the new PH 9.0 phono prototype! TT by Fern and Roby and Hana SL cart. Photos to follow!

Dan W.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 15 Apr 2018, 05:10 pm
Dan is the man with a plan.  :)

Thanks for valuing the opinions of all of us to help in your design decisions.  I have no doubts that you will produce an outstanding phono stage, and the prototype's positive reception at the show gives you further validation.   
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 17 Apr 2018, 06:16 pm
Thank you!  It is our customers that make us great! We will continue to strive to produce the best value and performance products we can, to meet the needs of our customers!

Dan Wright
President, ModWright Instruments Inc.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 17 Apr 2018, 07:02 pm
The PH 9.0 phono prototype was VERY well received in our system with Studio Electric, Zu Cables and Fern & Roby TT with Hana SL cart!

The sytem consisted of:

KWA 150SE amp ($8995)
SWL 9.0 Ann Ed. premp ($2900)
PH 9.0 Phono proto (final design to be ~$2900 or less)
Studio Electric M4 monitors ($3100 in special finish and metal grills)
Fern & Roby Montrose TT ($5750)
ModWright modified Oppo UDP-205 ($3800)
Zu Mission signal cables and two power cords.

Power conditioning: None.
Vibration Isolation: None.
Rack: Wood shipping crates used as table.
Majority of power cables: Generic.

In total then, the system cost was < $25K (with analog or digital source) and we had no tweaks at all!

The room was busy nearly all the time and we received fantastic feedback! We played A LOT of vinyl in that room because it sounded so good!

I decided that the final PH 9.0 phono stage will be configured as follows:

1/2 width or so, PH 9.0 chassis.
External supply in simple steel enclosure to be located anywhere away from the phono stage.
6ft. XLR (4-5 pin) umbilical to allow flexible placement of the external supply.
Controls as shown in prototype photo, plus mute and stereo/mono.
Final faceplate and layout of phono unit still to be finalized.
All controls, including power will be on the phono box itself. This allows for the power supply to be located out of the way.

Options to include:
XLR transformer balanced outputs.

More to come, but that is where I am now, based on feedback from the show.

Axpona 2018 was a huge sucess for MWI! We had fantastic sound with Studio Electric in the room described above and also in our High End room with Daedalus Audio, WyWires and VPI TT.  That system topped out at over $75K.

Thanks,

Dan W.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 26 Apr 2018, 09:22 pm
Design updates for PH 9.0 Phono Supply with external supply:

Projected retail price is still TBD, but will be < $3K for base model.

Chassis: Two box with external supply to be located away from the phono enclosure on a 5ft. umbilical. Main enclosure to be 8"-10" x 12"-14"D x 3"-4"H.
Step Up Transformers: Lundahl step-ups will be used for MC gain.
Gain: 50dB MM; 66dB MC (Gain adjustment: 0, -6dB, -12dB via toggle).
Functions: Mute, MM/MC, Mono/Stereo, MC loading (6-positions on-the-fly), Gain adjust (3 levels of attenuation).
Inputs: (1) RCA pair MM, (1) RCA pair MC, switchable on-the-fly.
Outputs: (1) pair RCA main outs; Optional pair transformer coupled XLR outs (add cost option).
Tube complement: (2)6C45, (2)6922.

Measurements:
Noise = -90dB MM, -76dB MC (unweighted)
Frequency Response: 20Hz - 50Khz (+/-.2dB)

In the end, the final design is very close to that of our Reference PH 150 ($7900). Enclosures are smaller and simplified. Some exotic parts are excluded and some aspects of the control and circuit design have been simplified. Sonically, the family resemblance is VERY STRONG!

Upgrade options anticipated (add cost):
Transformer coupled XLR fully balanced outputs.
Upgraded Umbilical.
Potential for power supply upgrades.


I will be finalizing and order the enclosures next and will be putting together our Beta tester list.  If you are interested in the new PH 9.0, please contact us right away!

Thank you,

Dan Wright
President, ModWright Instruments Inc.
360.247.6688
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: nature boy on 26 Apr 2018, 11:11 pm
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Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: dminches on 2 May 2018, 03:52 pm
Dan, is the design final? 
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 2 May 2018, 04:21 pm
Yes, the design is final and I am just working out the final chassis design now. Looks like the enclosure may be 10"W to accommodate the larger knobs used on the PH 150.

Finalizing PCBs now based on final circuit.

Lundahl step-ups are in and final gain is: 50dB MM (max); 66dB MC (max); Atttenuation toggle: 0, -6dB, -12dB. So MM ranges from 38dB-50dB and MC from 54dB-66dB.


(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=179595)

PWR and Gain are mini toggles. Stereo/Mono toggle will be on rear of phono.

As you can see, the functionality (and schematic) are actually very similar to the PH 150! Gain is a bit less and some aspects of the design have been simplified by necessity, but the sound is remarkably close!

Increasing enclosure width to 10" allows for the use of larger knobs and better looking scale overall. It also allows for optional fully balanced, transformer coupled XLR outs (add cost option).

Thoughts and feedback welcome!

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: woodsyi on 2 May 2018, 05:01 pm
Looking good.  I would love to be a beta tester.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 2 May 2018, 05:09 pm
All those interested in Beta testing will need to email us at kristin.modwright@yahoo.com or modwright@yahoo.com and I will be sure that Kristin adds your name to the list.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: jtsnead on 7 May 2018, 01:10 pm
Hope I am on the list - Thanks Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 8 May 2018, 06:55 pm
If you have emailed, you are on the list. jtsnead, you are on the list.

I am finalizing the main PCB now and coordinating all with the final chassis design. Exciting times!

Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: JMosch on 9 May 2018, 08:56 pm
Is this designed to be used with the PS 9.0 power supply?
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 9 May 2018, 10:25 pm
No, it will be an entirely different supply.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: mjalazard on 10 May 2018, 09:11 pm
Hey Dan,
I'de love to be a beta tester...
I have the VPI M3 with a Techinics EPC p100 Mk4 MM and a Sony PSX800 biotracer with Ortofon kontrapunkt b MC (the NFS Audio turntable)
I can easily switch between MC and MM for comparison.
Mike A
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 10 May 2018, 09:47 pm
Cool, I will add you to the list!

Thanks Mike!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 20 May 2018, 07:09 pm
I am nearing completion of the enclosure design of our new PH 9.0 phono stage with external supply.  Price is to be $2900 retail with optional fully balanced XLR transformer coupled outs as an add cost option.

I will post images of my final proposed aesthetic design and layout for feedback. I am balancing cost/performance with aesthetic design. As most of you know, often the biggest portion of a products end cost is based on the cost of the enclosure.  The goal here is a high value, high performance phono stage that offers as much of the PH 150 performance as possible at a much lower price. The looks needs to be clean and elegant as well as in keeping with the rest of our product line. However, I am also balancing the cost of the enclosure in order to post MOST of the money in the design itself and hence sonics!

Thank you,

Dan W.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: dminches on 20 May 2018, 07:47 pm
Dan, while no one wants an ugly unit (which you would never offer anyhow), most people are interested in value.  I am sure whatever your final design is will be more than acceptable.  People appreciate getting a lot for less money.

Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 21 May 2018, 03:24 am
Thanks! I agree, performance and value are most inortant. It will be an exceptional unit AND exceptional value!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 1 Jun 2018, 08:36 pm
Big thanks to Mono & Stereo for their post from 2018 Axpona of our prototype PH 9.0. We showed with Studio Electric's fantastic < $3K M4 monitors, Fern & Roby's Montrose TT with Hana SL cart and Zu's Mission cables!

https://www.monoandstereo.com/2018/04/new-modwright-ph-90-tube-phono-stage.html (https://www.monoandstereo.com/2018/04/new-modwright-ph-90-tube-phono-stage.html)

The actual final PH 9.0 design and price has been set. The $2900 PH 9.0, which is STRONGLY related to our PH 150 Reference tube phono ($7900) will soon be released.  It will be a two-box solution, despite what was indicated at Axpona. The use of Lundahl step-up transformers required us to keep the power supply as far as possible from the phono circuitry.

I struggled with this, as people have less rack space these days and I want this product to be as efficient with space as your wallet! The end decision was to make the supply external, simple and utilitarian, intended to sit on the floor, behind the rack or wherever you choose. This is achieved via a suitably long 6ft. umbilical. The supply houses the choke, power transformer and most rudimentary compomnents of the power supply that are also the most likely to introduce noise to the delicate signal path.

The umbilical is a 4-pin XLR type. This is significantly cheaper than the 8 pin Switchcraft or 10-pin Amphenol connectors that we use in our PH 150 and LS 36.5 DM Reference phono and preamps. Making the chassis a simple steel enclosure without decorative faceplate, also keeps the cost down. This allow us to put ALL of the money into optimizing the SOUND of the unit.

Circuitry is REMARKABLY similar to the PH 150, right down to the same Lunhdal step-ups and tube complement: (2) 6C45's and (2) 6922's. There are some differences of course and simplifications made to reduce cost, but you really won't hear it in the final product!

The PH 9.0 phono unit itself is 10"W x 3.5"H (not counting footers) x 10"D. Power supply = 7"W x 3"H x 9"D. The enclosures are steel (acting as Faraday Cages). The phono enclosure is finished with an Aluminum faceplate. Logo and graphics will all be silkscreened, so you will not see the characteristic backlit MWI logo. [Some of you like less LEDs anyhow, so this is a plus]. Again, costs were cut in the RIGHT places, to allow for a nice looking unit that SOUNDS like its much higher priced family member. Production drawings are going out to the machinist on Monday, but here is a graphic representation of the PH 9.0 face.

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=180802)

You will find the same large knobs as the PH 150, as well as the same MM, Mute, MC input select and of course on-the-fly MC loading. MM loading will be fixed 47K/100pf. Two toggles on the face finish out the controls with a power on/off toggle (only small blue LED present) and a three-way toggle for gain attenuation: 0, -12dB, -6dB. This allows for optimum gain setting for MM and MC. MM max gain = 50dB; MC max gain = 66dB. There will also be a rear mono/stereo toggle.

The base design features only RCA inputs, one pair MM and one pair MC.  There is also one pair of RCA main outs. Optional fully balanced, transformer coupled XLR outputs are an add cost option (price TBD).

I am excited about this and will be announcing when the first production units are ready to go out the door. We have a good list of Beta testers and dealers/distributors waiting on this one!

Thanks for all of your support.

Dan Wright
President, ModWright Instruments Inc.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 14 Jun 2018, 10:57 pm
Enclosure drawings off to the machinist for manufacturing today! I have been sick the past few weeks (just a bad cold) and it has put me a bit behind.

Just an update for those who are waiting.

Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 14 Jun 2018, 11:19 pm
Thanks for the update Dan, hope you get to feeling better soon.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 16 Jun 2018, 12:08 am
Thanks Greg!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 13 Jul 2018, 08:39 pm
Emails have just gone out to those who expressed interest in being Beta Customers. The first production run of 25 pieces is short and going fast. If you are interested in the new PH 9.0 tube phono stage, please let us know right away!

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=182414)

PCBs are assembled and I am expecting enclosures any day now!

The first units will be shipping in early August!

Thanks,

Dan W.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 18 Jul 2018, 04:47 pm
Testing the PH 9.0 design now. I thought I had a problem at first because I didn't hear anything.  Then I dropped the needle and realized that it is just that quiet!

Looking and Sounding GOOD!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 18 Jul 2018, 04:48 pm
Chassis are coming out of paint today. First two plates are on the way to silkscreen, along with chassis. Remainder of face plates are headed to the metal finisher. Moving along NICELY!!!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 18 Jul 2018, 04:51 pm
Testing the PH 9.0 design now. I thought I had a problem at first because I didn't hear anything.  Then I dropped the needle and realized that it is just that quiet!

Looking and Sounding GOOD!

Dan


Hi Dan,

Were you using the MC input with the internal transformer or the MM input? 

Greg
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 18 Jul 2018, 06:06 pm
I was using MC with internal step-ups.  The same with MM though!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: dminches on 19 Jul 2018, 03:07 pm
Chassis are coming out of paint today. First two plates are on the way to silkscreen, along with chassis. Remainder of face plates are headed to the metal finisher. Moving along NICELY!!!

Pictures!!!!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 19 Jul 2018, 03:23 pm
Early next week! Chassis coming out of paint today and off to silk screener today. Ideally will have all back to assemble for photos by Monday or Tues.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: jtsnead on 26 Jul 2018, 04:42 pm
Dan, does the 9.0 have a subsonic filter? The tube based one I am using now does allow for more woofer pumping
that is concerning me. I have eliminated much of it with isolation items but it still is noticeable.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 26 Jul 2018, 06:42 pm
No it does not. However, the power supply is tightly regulated, so the only reason for this should be mechanical feedback, unless the tube phono you are using now does not have good power supply regulation.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 28 Jul 2018, 12:20 am
Photos as promised!

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=182838)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=182831)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=182835)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=182832)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=182834)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=182837)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=182833)




Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: dminches on 28 Jul 2018, 12:27 am
Looks great!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 28 Jul 2018, 12:35 am
Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Drew769 on 28 Jul 2018, 01:32 am
Looks great!

Are the balanced outs shown in the photos optional, or will all units be equipped with them standard?
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Bob Stark on 28 Jul 2018, 01:42 am
Nice work, Dan.

With the big transformer on the power supply, it would be great to hear it with Star Sound's Audio Point trans mod.  I've done this to your 5400, an Edge M6 amp, the 2 trans on my TRL DUDE preamp, and both Core Power Technologies 150's I have.  The amount of improvement in the sound varies from significant to upping the SQ by 50% on some of them by doing it.  I heard the early version of your phono pre at 2018 Axpona and it was already very nice sounding.  Of course, nothing in your system resembles mine so it is tough to tell what is affecting the sound and how much.  It should be another winner for sure.

Bob
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 28 Jul 2018, 07:29 pm
Balanced outs are optional and will cost between $300 and $750 extra, depending on the quality of the output transformers used.  I am still evaluating the sonic differences between options. The best way to achieve this is with transformer coupling.

Regarding the Start Points Audio Point trans mod, I would need to know more about it.  Certainly all tube products benefit from vibration isolation.  I will not be offering such an upgrade at retail because it would drive our coset up too high.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Bob Stark on 28 Jul 2018, 08:26 pm
Hey Dan,

The Star Sound trans mod consists of taking off the nut from the trans and lifting the trans off the bolt.  Then you remove the rubber gasket.  You will have to buy three .2AP.7 Audio Points from SS.  These are very flat points about a nickel in width and .2" in height.  You replace the trans on the bolt and screw the nut on loosely.  Using your finger or a small object, place each point so the flat portion is against the bottom of the trans and the point is facing the chassis--spread these so they are under the fat portion of the donut-like trans and roughly equally apart around the trans.  When in place, tighten the nut down to hold them in place securely. 

When you listen, you will hear much better clarity, dynamics at all frequencies.  There will be NO drawbacks other than the cost to do this.  Very easy to do--about 10 minutes counting taking off the cover and replacing it.  The points are $25.00 each.  This is a significant tweak to any transformer based power supply.  Robert Maicks at SS can tell you about the technology involved if you want to know.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 28 Jul 2018, 10:38 pm
Thanks for the suggestion.  It sounds like something that our customers may want to try, but I really don't recommend opening up our high voltage supply.

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 3 Aug 2018, 08:36 pm
Hi Dan,

Any updates on the first 25 units?

Greg
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Joe Frances on 3 Aug 2018, 10:31 pm
Dan

With the phono stage and the new integrated, where do you get the time to do all this?  I hope you have a lot of eager beaver helpers on all these fab projects.

Joe
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 3 Aug 2018, 11:37 pm
The first unit has shipped to HK.  Everything else in in hand, as far as chassis and metalwork and the rest of the units are in production. The first Beta customer units will begin shipping by about the 10th of August.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: jtsnead on 16 Aug 2018, 07:01 pm
Anyone get one yet?
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 16 Aug 2018, 07:18 pm
Sorry guys, dragging my feet a bit because I am being a perfectionist.  I am niggling out one last little detail before I start shipping.  I have about seven mostly built but I want to finalize this one detail first.

While these are sold to Beta Customers and all Beta Customers will be able to return them all for future updates, based on Beta feedback, I still want these to be as good as possible!

Thanks for your patience!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 17 Aug 2018, 08:05 pm
OK, the final kink is worked out!

I designed the PH 9.0 with the same switching logic as the PH 150, for MM-Mute-MC input. Well, one or two components in the circuit were different and I found that due to some variation in one part, there was a pop when switching from MM-Mute and Mute-MM, on some units, but not all. I have spent the week beating my head against the wall trying to find the reason and solution.

Well, it turns out that this particular component is simply different than the other previously used.  It is also quieter and offers better performance, but the one difference does require a revised switching logic. So, the PH 9.0 will have a four position selector switch.  Despite the face plate indicating MM - Mute - MC, it will actually be MC -Mute - Mute - MC. This way, when switching from MM or MC to mute, there is no possibility of any pop or tick at all.

Now that this is resolved, I have also gone over other operating parameters and optimized other parts of the circuit that I am now ready to start shipping units next week.

Thank you all for your patience!

I know that many mfrs. would never share an 'issue' much less how it is resolved.  I would rather just be open with you all about it. The new part offers better performance and if this requires a four position switch, then so be it!

It is my goal for this to be the BEST < $3K tube phono on the market! I would like to think that it will be the best < $3K phono on the market PERIOD, but the tube/SS debate will always rage on.  Suffice to say, it is QUIET, and sounds amazing!

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 17 Aug 2018, 08:26 pm
Despite the face plate indicating MM - Mute - MC, it will actually be MC -Mute - Mute - MC.

Hi Dan,

Did you mean MM-Mute-Mute-MC?  Does that mean the MC position will be one position past the MC on the face plate and the MC on the face plate will be a mute?

Thanks,
Greg
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 17 Aug 2018, 09:23 pm
Nope.  The way it works, there will be two mutes in positions 2 and 3.

The reason for this, is as follows:

When switching from MM - Mute, the MM-MC relay does not switch.
When switching from Mute - Mute, the MM/MC relay does open, while the unit is in mute.
The final switch position then, from Mute to MC, unmutes, but the MM/MC relay is already activated.

As a result, the phono is always muted when the MM/MC relay switches.

So, you can easily go from MM - Mute, or MC - Mute, depending on if you are using MM or MC.
To go from MM to Mute, you will turn the dial from MM - Mute1 - Mute2 - MC.

So when the knob is far left, it will be just past the MM indicator. Position Mute 1 and Mute 2 will have the indicator just to the left and right of 'Mute' and when in MC position, the indicator will just be to the right of MC. In each case, the indicator will be off by exactly 18 degrees.

I hope this makes sense.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 17 Aug 2018, 09:48 pm
Hi Dan,

Thanks, your explanation makes perfect sense and is also a clever solution to work with the face plate that had already been made.

Greg
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: dminches on 17 Aug 2018, 09:59 pm
Dan, thanks for the detailed explanation.

Looking forward to getting my unit in a couple weeks.

Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 17 Aug 2018, 10:02 pm
You know, REAL engineering is not design, but PROBLEM RESOLUTION!

I was telling my lead tech today that the design process is actually a small part of the engineering process.  A good engineer learns how to work out unexpected problems and find efficient ways to resolve them. Life does not fit in boxes and is not all 1's and 0's.

This is an exciting design and I am really pleased with how it turned out!  The PH 9.0 is all about taking the best of our Reference products and distilling it down to a product at a fraction of the price that offers the same (over VERY close) to the same performance in a smaller form factor and less exotic enclosure.  This is the way of the future I believe. High Value and high performance!

This is the beginning of a quest into more diverse and lesser cost phono designs to come, both tube and SS. Vinyl is here to stay and I see it as the ideal way to attract the next generation of music lovers!

You just can't beat the overall experience of vinyl analog playback!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 17 Aug 2018, 10:02 pm
Dminches, you are one of the first to ship early next week!  I look forward to your feedback!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: dminches on 29 Aug 2018, 01:22 pm
I received the PH 9.0 yesterday and fired it up.  I am using the stock tubes for now. 

The unit sounds great right out of the box.  I am using a 0.28 mV Dynavector LOMC cartridge.  There is no issue with the output level even with this cartridge.

I will post more impressions after a full week of listening.  I plan on rolling in a pair of Amperex 6922s once the unit has some time on it.  I don't think there are many options for the 6C45s.

What are others hearing?

Dan, great job on this.


Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 29 Aug 2018, 03:23 pm
Thanks Dave! I will post early feedback shortly.  I just need to confirm permission from all first.  Suffice to say that it has been excellent!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: jtsnead on 29 Aug 2018, 03:58 pm
Other ones shipping soon?
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 29 Aug 2018, 04:31 pm
The first 11 have shipped, and the 12th will ship tomorrow. The next shipment will be next week. We had a delay in receiving Lundahl transformers. jtsnead, you are in the next lot.

Thanks for your patience,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: dminches on 1 Sep 2018, 08:38 pm
I have about 25 hours on the PH 9.0 and it keeps getting better.  I rolled in a pair of Amperex PQ 7308s and it took the sound to a new level.  This phono pre is just so musical.  Detailed, but not overly so.  One can hear a lot of depth in the music.  I put on a Ray Brown LP and the bass was full but not bloated.

I am very happy with this unit.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 1 Sep 2018, 09:05 pm
I have an Origin Live Sovereign deck, Origin Live Conqueror 2 arm (with upgraded wiring), and a ZYX Universe 2 cartridge.  I am using a Tribute hand-wound MC step up with Triode Wire Labs cabling.  Up until the time I received the PH 9.0, I was using my on board phono stage in my SST Ambrosia Gen 2 preamp.  I considered the on board phono stage to be reference grade (and it displaced a much more expensive dedicated phono stage).  The PH 9.0 had big shoes to fill. 

I have just a bit over 10 hours on the PH 9.0 so here are my preliminary observations. 

I am using the PH 9.0 with the stock tubes, but I intend to swap in my NOS Telefunken tubes after further break in.  I am thankful I stashed the Telefunkens away for more than the last decade and look forward to them elevating the PH 9.0 to even higher levels of performance.  I just want to allow more time for break in and hear the PH 9.0 the way Dan voiced it.

Even with stock tubes this is an amazing phono stage.  The timber of acoustic instruments really has to be heard to be appreciated.  The stage is balanced from top to bottom without bloated bass.  The one improvement I noticed right off is a wider and deeper sound stage.  Vocals are not artificially focused in the front of the stage like you hear from some phono stages.  The instruments have a place on the stage and are accurately portrayed.  The PH 9.0 seems to focus a bit further back towards mid hall presentation, but that can be a function of the tubes.

I am happy I chose the PH 9.0.  Dan really has provided a benchmark for the ratio of performance to value.

Now back to listening to some Roy Orbison on pristine vinyl...
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 2 Sep 2018, 03:47 am
More PH 9.0 Feedback from other Early Customers as it comes in:

“Right out of the gate, glorious organic and tactile mid-range. As I put hours on it, the bottom got really solid and it reaches way down. I believe you have hit a home run!” R. Colburn - 8.25.18 
Title: Link to further feedback and debate about the PH 9.0 at AudioNirvana.org
Post by: modwright on 2 Sep 2018, 11:55 pm
https://www.audionirvana.org/forum/the-audio-vault/analog-playback/phonostages/96258-modwright-ph-9-0-tube-phono-pre-a-user-report (https://www.audionirvana.org/forum/the-audio-vault/analog-playback/phonostages/96258-modwright-ph-9-0-tube-phono-pre-a-user-report)

I have the product page just about complete on our site and have updated the ModBlog.

Thanks,

Dan W.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 4 Sep 2018, 11:36 pm
My user comments were a bit early.  I wanted to share some follow up observations. 

The bottom end has filled in more, and the bass remains fast and accurate with the perfect amount of overhang. 

My comment regarding the vocals not being presented up front was not applicable.  The phono stage just faithfully presents the mix cut into the grooves of the LP.  If the engineer recorded vocals up front and center that is exactly what you get. 

The presentation has moved a few rows up from mid hall and is now positioned exactly where I look to sit at a live show. 

The PH 9.0 is seriously good and just continues to improve as the caps break in.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: jtsnead on 25 Sep 2018, 08:29 pm
What is the mc transformers step up ratio?
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 25 Sep 2018, 08:32 pm
1:5. If I run them at 1:10, the bandwidth suffers.  It sounds best this way.

Via the MM inputs however, a person could use a separate SUT and have two MC inputs for two MC carts.

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 25 Sep 2018, 08:34 pm
I have the stage set to MM/47K on the front and and my step up is loaded perfect for feeding a 47K input.  This combo is extremely quiet and sounds great.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: jtsnead on 25 Sep 2018, 08:46 pm
Thanks Dan I was wondering. I was looking at some Soundsmith MI carts. I do have a Bobs but was trying to not use it and another set of cables. My Cadenza Bronze does sound awesome
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=184838)
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 25 Sep 2018, 08:56 pm
You should be just fine down to .3mV - .4mV. Depending on the gain of your preamp, .2mV may require a bit more volume, but it was intended to handle just about any MC.  I know that our PH 150, which maxes out at 72dB is most often used in the -6dB gain position because 72dB is simply too much gain.

Thanks and I appreciate your feedback.

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: jtsnead on 25 Sep 2018, 08:58 pm
I was looking at the Star MIMC but it look like it needs more than the 470 ohms
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 25 Sep 2018, 09:24 pm
You know, it is interesting.  The PH 150 had 500 and 1K as the two highest MC loads.  My HK distributor and other dealers I have spoken with said that they would prefer more values in the < 100 range and would not need anything higher than 470 ohm.

To be honest, if you want a special loading value, it is just a matter of changing two resistors, but that is the explanation.  I realize that Sound Smith has some carts with higher loadings. It can be done, but I am not sure that it is really necessary though.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 2 Oct 2018, 07:49 pm
A great review by one of our Beta Customers:

"I’ve been enjoying the new PH 9.0 so far.  I wanted to make sure that I gave an appropriate amount of listening time (and break in time) to give you the best feedback possible.  I’ve done a lot of listening to the unit, using both the internal SUTs in the MC mode, as well as using a quality stand-alone SUT running into the MM input. My prior set-up was this SUT (a VAS MC-One mk 2) running into a Rogue Ares “Magnum” phono preamp.  Everything downstream and upstream is exactly the same:

Turntable: VPI Ares 3D w/ Phoenix Engineering speed control and tachometer
Cartridge: VAS Nova Signature
Preamp: MW SWL 9.0 Anniversary
Power Amp: MW KWA 150 SE
Speakers: Daedalus DA-1.1v2
Speaker cables: Daedalus
Interconnects: Grover Huffman, Ortofon phono cable, VAS phono cable
Headphones: Sennheiser HD-6XX

As I’m reviewing the PH 9.0, I’m making comparisons to the Rogue Ares Magnum ($2795) and the Tavish Adagio (the standard version at $1,890 - have not heard the version with the better SUTs at $2,400).  Both of these units are very close in design to your PH 9.0, and feature separate power boxes.  The Rogue has really no controls whatsoever accessible on the unit - even the power switch is awkwardly placed on the back of the unit.  The power LED, which is on the bottom on the front faceplate, was literally an afterthought (Mark told me that) because original owners could not tel if the unit was on or not.  The Tavish is more similar to the PH 9.0, with front mounted knobs and switches - very convenient.

First impressions of the SWL 9.0 that they are solid, heavy and quite substantial in feel and appearance.  The aluminum faceplate and twin dials on the control unit give an upscale, handsome appearance to the unit, and it looks right at home near the statement piece KWA 150 SE. 

I have made a lot of changes to my rig over the past year, and this most recent lineup of components including the Rogue Ares had yielded the best sound I’ve heard in my listening room.  A good friend and fellow audiophile has heard just about every combination of speakers, components and wires that I’ve tried, and he agreed that the sound was pretty amazing.  When I told him I would be pulling the Ares for the new Modwright, he thought I was nuts to make any more changes.  “Do you really expect it to sound any better?” he asked.  I have to admit that I had my doubts as well.

Immediately after connecting the unit into my system, I could already hear some very distinct differences between the PH 9.0 and my Ares.  As you have repeatedly said, the PH 9.0 is dead quiet - amazingly so even when set to “MC” and connected through high efficiency speakers.  What’s more, there is no trace of hum.  The Ares is also quiet, but not as quiet as the 9.0.  With the Ares, though, I always had issues with hum, especially running a LOMC cartridge.  I always had to futz around with the ground wires and connections to get everything just right.  The PH 9.0, however, seems to be fairly immune to hum in my setup.  The first time, and even through several changes in connections with and without the SUT, I did not experience any hum at all.  This is a huge accomplishment!  My phono stage prior to the Ares, a PS Audio GCPH, was also plagued with hum issues.  It can be one of the most frustrating things to resolve for a part time audiophile, so the ease of connection, low noise, and lack of hum in the PH 9.0 is really outstanding.

The sound is even more impressive, especially at this price point.  My Rogue is a good sounding unit, and it took my sound to new highs when I replaced the GCPH.  The Tavish, which I briefly had in my system (it belongs to a friend) I thought had better PRAT than the Ares.  It also was a touch more quiet than the Ares.  Honestly, had I heard the Tavish before the Ares, I probably would have bought the Tavish.  The Ares or the Tavish are not really in the same league as the PH 9.0, however.  In truth, it is not even close.  This was probably the part of my listening that delayed my response to you.  I was thinking that I had to be biased in my listening to the new unit.  Perhaps I was just hearing “differences” and not necessarily “improvements” in sound?  (I think a lot of people make this mistake.)  It was surprising to me that the differences in the sound could be as profound as they are.  I started off with the unit in MM mode, with my VAS MC-One SUT in the mix.  After a couple of days of listening to that setup, I switched to the internal Lundahl SUTs with the MC setting (removing the VAS), and I immediately liked the sound better.  After a few days listening this way, my aforementioned buddy was over for the weekend and we listened to the unit in both configurations.  He also preferred the internal SUTs/MC setting.  I have not switched back since then (a couple of weeks ago) but I will go back and experiment at some point.

The PH 9.0 presents from a very black background, which can make some music downright startling when it “kicks in.”  One of the first tracks I played was “Be Here Now,” which is the first song on Ray LaMontagne’s album Till the Sun Turns Black.  It starts with a quiet guitar, along with some light orchestration behind.  It’s not very loud, so I turn it up a bit.  His vocal comes in and it’s airy, wispy, and fully detailed in a way I haven’t heard it before.  At the chorus, the string section swells like a gust of wind, filling the room with sound, as if I had just turned the volume pot up a notch (or three).    The dynamics between different instruments and voices all have to appropriate space, volume and shape - as if you were hearing it live.  You can have a guitar being thrashed, a vocal being belted out, and a tiny triangle being played in the background, and all are preserved in their natural space and volume.  Despite the clarity and detail, however, the unit is exceptionally smooth and well rounded, and yet not “tubey” in any way.  It’s also fast and precise, allowing the sparkle and shimmer of well-recorded cymbals to be heard, and the impact of a drumstick on drum head to he felt.   I find this quality in all of your equipment, actually.  Hugh Maskela’s Hope album (the QRP release is astonishing) is an ideal demo for this phono pre, highlighting everything it does well - high dynamic shifts, precise and well-recorded percussion, crystal clear trumpet, and a stirring live vocal performance.  “The Coal Train” is just ridiculous.

I am going back and re-listening to a lot of my favorite vocal performances with the Ph 9.0.  Vanessa Fernandez’ first album - which frankly can make a Bose Wave radio sound great - has never sounded better to my ears.  Her voice is so real, so three dimensional, and yet so non-fatiguing.  Sometimes it is these “audiophile legend” albums that tell you the most.  Can a component improve on what is already great?  In this case, the answer is yes.  I can turn the volume up until Vanessa is standing right in front of me, and the sound is still clean and smooth with no signs of that glare that I sometimes noticed in my old setup.  Jennifer Warnes version of “Famous Blue Raincoat” is just about perfect with this unit, and it’s another song that always challenged my gear of the past when listened to at any level above 65 db or so.  I went through a lot of artists, and without exception the PH 9.0 provided an improved listening experience.

The front mounted controls (and rear mono/stereo switch) are more than just convenient - I now think they are essential to get the right listening experience from all of your records.  For most of my collection, there is an abundance of gain (when paired with the SWL 9.0 into the KWA 150SE and driving the very efficient Daedalus speakers), and I run it at the -12db setting (and it’s still sometimes a bit too much).  Playing the Vanessa Fernandez “Use Me” album yesterday, though, I heard a lot of excess hiss from the analog tapes and surface noise when used in the “-12" setting.  I turned down the volume and changed to the “-6” db gain setting.  Wow, what an immediate difference!  The music was now still clear and undistorted, but the background noise went away almost entirely.   I am also pleased to have a mono switch again - something the Rogue lacks entirely.  My mono records have never sounded better than when playing them back on the mono setting.

The sound quality, lack of noise, convenience in using, overall appearance - the PH 9.0 accomplishes all of that, and to levels you don’t normally hear at price point (or even higher)."
- A. Karpinski
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 2 Oct 2018, 08:15 pm
Thanks for sharing Dan, that is an extremely well written review and a much deserved acknowledgement for what you achieved with the PH 9.0.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 2 Oct 2018, 08:45 pm
Thanks Greg and a big thanks to Mr. Karpinski for taking the time to write such a well thought out review. I am grateful to all of you who purchased Beta units and have shared your feedback! I am confident that we have hit a Home Run here and it is exciting!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: mreeter on 3 Oct 2018, 12:55 pm
The above review is simply "Outstanding" if the man is not already, he should be a Professional Reviewer! His comments have certainly hit home with me as I am also a Rogue Audio Ares "Magnum" owner and....have also had an Adagio in my system for a short time.

I have been quite happy with the performance of the Ares for over four years, especially after having Rogue perform the "Magnum" upgrade, thats saying something for me!

For the PH 9.0 to out perform the Ares, especially with an added external SUT, and at the price point of the PH 9.0, well you certainly have gotten my attention!

Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 3 Oct 2018, 04:30 pm
I agree, the writing style and information are exceptional. I find that customer testimonials are the most honest and of exceptional value. Professional reviews are also in the works!

The first production run sold FAST! We are working on the second production run and are back-ordered.  If you are interested in learning more about the PH 9.0, please don't hesitate to call our office at 360.247.6688.

Thanks,

Dan Wright
President, ModWright Instruments Inc.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 4 Dec 2018, 01:56 am
More PH 9.0 Feedback as Production Run #2 units ship!

Reviews are also in the works. We are getting ready to order chassis for production run #3!

...after having the PH 9.0 in this system for four days I have been so amazed by the soundstage improvements while listening to vinyl that I haven’t made time to open the Oppo Mod boxes yet. It’s like every track I listen to is now telling its story with a new voice.

My impressions of my new experience with some of the vinyl I have owned for many years:
* “The Genius Sings the Blues” presented an audibly better “feel” of the size of the recording venue for all of the tracks.
* Bob James and Earl Klugh’s “One on One” on Columbia’s 1981 half-speed master sprang forward with new breadth/depth in the performances and intricate detail from the original attempt at a “FourPlay” like ensemble. The feel of the venue was projected with a new sense of realness, the sound stage was so large and the spatial cues were captivating.
* Al Jarreau “Look into the Rainbow” - “Better than Anything” was so much better (the feel of the concert hall, sounds from the audience, size of the stage and placement of the musicians accompanying Al’s masterful instrument felt so real) and hearing the improvements while listening to “We Got By” took me back to the last opportunity I’ll ever hear him live in concert…

After just a few days with the PH9.0 I'm still experiencing more of everything I love about vinyl (lifelike warmth, midrange presence, layers & soundstage depth, etc.) But, now I hear the type of inner detail, resolution & time correct midbass foundation that always draws me to hi-res digital file listening. Every album vinyl track has been more enjoyable than the previous one as this device continues to settle into my system.

I'm so glad I had the chance to meet you and hear the PH9.0 at RMAF. I would never have been able to imagine the possibility of this level of improvement at this price point. All of this enjoyment and room in the budget for more vinyl…

- M. Holland, 12.3.18
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: billc on 22 Dec 2018, 06:48 pm
Dan,

Congratulations on a very positive review for the PH 9.0, by Steve Guttenberg!

https://www.cnet.com/news/this-preamp-lets-you-hear-deeper-into-the-sound-of-lps/ (https://www.cnet.com/news/this-preamp-lets-you-hear-deeper-into-the-sound-of-lps/)

BillC
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 28 Dec 2018, 01:44 am
Thanks! Here is a youtube review by Steve Guttenberg, 'The Audiophilia', that just came out today!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=EyQsDY0-0L4&fbclid=IwAR1AhiVDkhNoP4DhB0wAWSSxqzEIGAHMfH2Sy_SzoPzr9z8DLHpPSXLrPy0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=EyQsDY0-0L4&fbclid=IwAR1AhiVDkhNoP4DhB0wAWSSxqzEIGAHMfH2Sy_SzoPzr9z8DLHpPSXLrPy0)
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 2 Jun 2019, 10:40 pm
New Review by Greg Weaver, writing for Positive Feedback Online:

https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/hardware-reviews/modwright-instruments-ph-9-0-phono-stage/?fbclid=IwAR2yLtxJ9vItYyTqO8ErbEecH-Qv_6Za5i4wrfb59DC-mU8Ssk-YSnR40W8 (https://positive-feedback.com/reviews/hardware-reviews/modwright-instruments-ph-9-0-phono-stage/?fbclid=IwAR2yLtxJ9vItYyTqO8ErbEecH-Qv_6Za5i4wrfb59DC-mU8Ssk-YSnR40W8)


(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=185102)


Excerpts from Greg's review (evaluted in Greg's > $300K Reference System)!

Finally, I want to single out its remarkably realistic tonal balance, octave to octave. Tonality and texture are rendered with remarkable accuracy, substance, and faithfulness across the entire audio spectrum, giving the PH 9.0 one of the most authentic voices I've heard under about $6000. This attribute, along with its astonishing degree of quietness, bass and general pitch definition, and its startling dynamic prowess, make this one of, if not the, most attractive phono stages available in today's market, maybe for as much as twice its asking price.

 I am not exaggerating when I say that this latest phono stage from ModWright may just be, pound-for-pound, the most significant achievement in performance per dollar that ModWright has yet achieved.

It is one of the most accomplished and over-achieving performers available in its class, PERIOD!
- G. Weaver, Positive Feedback Online

I want to thank Greg for such a great review! The PH 9.0 is a phono stage that we at MWI are all quite proud of! My intent to realize as close as possible, the performance of the $7900 PH 150 in the $2900 PH 9.0, was realized!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: nature boy on 21 Feb 2020, 12:00 am
I just ordered my Modwright PH 9.0 from Dan. I am so looking forward to having it in my system. I originally signed up as a beta tester, but had some unexpected expenses come up. I was really taken with Dan's PH 150 and Ambrose amp & pre a few years ago at the Capital Audio Fest.  They sounded exceptional with a VPI Prime Signature TT & Daedalus speakers.

Can't wait for the UPS guy to show up😁.

NB
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 21 Feb 2020, 12:19 am
I just ordered my Modwright PH 9.0 from Dan. I am so looking forward to having it in my system. I originally signed up as a beta tester, but had some unexpected expenses come up. I was really taken with Dan's PH 150 and Ambrose amp & pre a few years ago at the Capital Audio Fest.  They sounded exceptional with a VPI Prime Signature TT & Daedalus speakers.

Can't wait for the UPS guy to show up😁.

NB

It will be well worth the wait, by far my favorite phono stage I have owned.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 21 Feb 2020, 12:22 am
I find that when people hear it, they want to keep it!

Thank you all for your business and support!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: nature boy on 9 Mar 2020, 08:36 pm
MWI PH 9.0 in the house. Very easy set up with instructions, let the tube & capacitor burn in begin.

NB
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: mreeter on 9 Mar 2020, 11:19 pm
Congratulations on your new PH 9.0, I think you're going to be very happy with your choice. 30-40 hours burn in, and you're set. Enjoy!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: dminches on 10 Mar 2020, 01:44 pm
MWI PH 9.0 in the house. Very easy set up with instructions, let the tube & capacitor burn in begin.

NB

Congrats on the purchase.

JMO, but the stock EH tubes do not bring out the best in the preamp.  After things settle in I would recommend you find a nice pair of NOS or OS 6922s and use them.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 10 Mar 2020, 02:43 pm
We now ship with NOS EI 6dj8'S or equivalent as I was not getting consistent enough quality from EH or JJ.

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: dminches on 10 Mar 2020, 02:44 pm
We now ship with NOS EI 6dj8'S or equivalent as I was not getting consistent enough quality from EH or JJ.

Dan

I don't know those tubes specifically but that is probably a good change.  I am not a fan of either the EH or JJ.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 10 Mar 2020, 05:09 pm
It is not typically cost-feasible to ship tube products with NOS tubes. The only reason we do it with the phono stages now is because I can't source new production tubes that meet my standards for this application.

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: dminches on 10 Mar 2020, 05:43 pm
It is not typically cost-feasible to ship tube products with NOS tubes. The only reason we do it with the phono stages now is because I can't source new production tubes that meet my standards for this application.

Dan

I totally get it and wouldn't expect you to.  The phono sounds great with any tubes but really shines with NOS ones.  There aren't enough NOS tubes for you to guarantee you would ship the same ones.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 10 Mar 2020, 06:03 pm
My phono stage sounded very good with the gold pin EH tubes I received, but sounded better after I put NOS tubes in it.  I tried NOS Siemens ECC88 tubes, Amperex white label PQ tubes, and Telefunken ECC88 (vintage with the small print labels).   I upgraded the power supply umbilical cable to WyWires and that also made for a nice improvement.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: jtsnead on 10 Mar 2020, 08:01 pm
What would be a good SUT for a Ortofon A95 .2mv output to a Modwright PH9.0 based on using the MM input the transformers on the MC input 1:5 so not sure I would have enough gain or a good match. I had a Bobs 1131 Blue I should of kept but I keep changing cartridges and the better ones are lower output
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 10 Mar 2020, 08:11 pm
What would be a good SUT for a Ortofon A95 .2mv output to a Modwright PH9.0 based on using the MM input the transformers on the MC input 1:5 so not sure I would have enough gain or a good match. I had a Bobs 1131 Blue I should of kept but I keep changing cartridges and the better ones are lower output

Any SUT that is a good impedance match and produces enough output should work.   I am using a custom made Tribute 1:15 SUT with a ZYX Universe II 0.24 mv copper cartridge and the phono stage is quiet and sounds excellent. 
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 10 Mar 2020, 09:04 pm
A 1:10 would be a good choice. I am working with some SUT's that I had made that are fantastic, but I have not had time to work out how to best intall them inside the phono for lowest noise and hum. The Cinemags are very good and K&K Audio has a very good high grade Lundahl solution also!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: PierreB on 17 Mar 2020, 09:45 pm
Just receive my PH 9.0 (silver finish and balance output) this afternoon and I'm very happy.
I begin the burn-in. Very quiet, no hum.
 :thumb:
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 17 Mar 2020, 10:12 pm
Enjoy PierreB and welcome to the MWI family!

Dan Wright
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: PierreB on 18 Mar 2020, 12:51 am
Enjoy PierreB and welcome to the MWI family!

Dan Wright

Thanks.
If I use the balance outputs, does the gain go up 6db. (70db instead of 64db for a MC cartridge)
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 18 Mar 2020, 04:36 pm
Because we create balanced outputs with the use of 1:1 output transformers, there will not be an additional 6dB of gain.

We offer this as an option for those who need to run long balanced cable runs only. There is no other sonic advantage to this.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: PierreB on 18 Mar 2020, 08:00 pm
^^^ thanks.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: RonP on 24 Mar 2020, 10:05 pm
Picked up mine from UPS this morning. About to unbox this baby. I'm in the family now!!  8)
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 24 Mar 2020, 11:32 pm
Thanks RonP!

Dan Wright
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: RonP on 8 May 2020, 02:00 am
Hey Dan, How much warm up time should we allow for the PH 9.0 to hit optimum sound?

When I remember to do it, I try to do ~10 mins.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 8 May 2020, 02:10 am
I would say that 10 minutes is about right.  The tubes reach operating temp pretty fast.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Nonnegativ on 8 Jul 2020, 07:25 pm
Modwright PH 9.0 has replaced my former ASR Basis Exclusive in my humble listening room here in Denmark.

I had noticed that my listening sessions always ended with me analyzing the Music in HiFi-terms: Perspective, reproduction af various Frequencies etc. etc. While this might be interesting in the short term, this is not the goal of my gear. I want to feel emotions through Music, and realize that the right part of my brain still works ok ;-)

I have therefore during corona-lockdown been through a lenghty trial of various phonostages at home in the 3K $ segment available here in DK.

The Modwright PH 9.0 ended up as a clear winner. Only one other phonostage could match it on ability to express the inner tones of the Music, but the PH 9.0 won by a large margin on Dynamics, Perspective and ability to go low. With Telefunken E88CC from '69 it is absolutely glorios, and it is now impossible not to be drawn into the Music.

I have also for the first time in 10 years experienced that Harbeth SHL5 can actually deliver a deep low punch ;-)

I am extremely pleased with my Modwright PH 9.0 and also with the Danish Distributor, which is rightfully quite famous amoung audiophiles here in DK for his service - it is second to none.

All my best & keep up the good work.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: jtsnead on 18 Aug 2020, 03:23 pm
The Modwright PH 9.0 ended up as a clear winner. Only one other phonostage could match it on ability to express the inner tones of the Music, but the PH 9.0 won by a large margin on Dynamics, Perspective and ability to go low. With Telefunken E88CC from '69 it is absolutely glorios, and it is now impossible not to be drawn into the Music.

I have also for the first time in 10 years experienced that Harbeth SHL5 can actually deliver a deep low punch ;-)

I am extremely pleased with my Modwright PH 9.0 and also with the Danish Distributor, which is rightfully quite famous amoung audiophiles here in DK for his service - it is second to none.

Wow great review the ASR is highly thought of Thanks
All my best & keep up the good work.
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Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 18 Aug 2020, 03:59 pm
Thank you for your feedback!

The PH 9.0 continues to be a best seller for us and I am very happy with it!

The only phono stage we make that is better, is the PH 150, and that produce is $5K higher in price!

The goal of the PH 9.0 was to provide the maximum performance at a price-point that is reasonable and represents very high value.

Take care and enjoy!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: jtsnead on 30 Dec 2020, 08:56 pm
See my great news here:

https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=174101.0
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 31 Dec 2020, 12:14 am
Hi Guys, here are the photos and details!

Details: Cost = $995 for the upgrade.
Gapped Lundahl transformer based output stage is implemented in the same way as the $7900 PH 150, that the PH 9.0 is based upon. Output coupling caps are eliminated as are a pair of chokes. XLR outputs are added and a switch for RCA or XLR output. Both RCA and XLR outputs are fed from the Lundahl's and thus both benefit the same.

I am posting photos that show a stock PH 9.0 with stock balanced output circuit, consisting of a pair of Edcore 1:1 output transformers to create the balanced outs. RCA outs bypass the transformers.
Retail cost is $3200 ($2900 + $300 for XLR upgrade).

The new upgrade includes the Lundahl transformers, which of course includes fully balanced outputs also and a significant improvement in sonics!

To me, the biggest area of sonic improvement is body, weight, impact and presence. It takes the PH 9.0 THAT much closer to our Reference PH 150, for $995, vs. the $5K difference in cost between the PH 9.0 and PH 150.


(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=218954)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=218955)

Stock PH 9.0 with XLR outs. Edcor output transformers for XLR outs only, $3200 ($2900 + $300 XLR outputs)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=218956)

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=218957)

Upgraded PH 9.0 with gapped Lundahl output transformers and fully balanced XLR and RCA outs, $3895 ($2900 + $995 for Lundahl upgrade, fully balanced).
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: nature boy on 31 Dec 2020, 12:37 am
SWEET! I'm in on this upgrade, boxing up my PH 9.0 tomorrow for the trip west.

NB
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: RonP on 31 Dec 2020, 05:29 pm
Another upgrade I need!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: billc on 3 Jan 2021, 09:33 pm
Dan, this is fantastic news!   :D

I remember the last time I was in actual physical company of audiophiles, when we met at the VPI House in NJ on March 1 of last year, and you were talking about the potential for transformer upgrades to the PH 9.0.  I was very excited to hear your plans, but have held off inquiring due to covid craziness and how it has affected manufacturers and the audio world.  So this is very good news indeed.  8)  I will follow up with you on a travel plan for my PH 9.0, which has been incredible sounding since its arrival, but this mod looks to be a nice step up.

Happy New Year to all!

Bill C
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 3 Jan 2021, 11:51 pm
I packed up my PH 9.0 and it will be to Dan's shop on Wednesday.  I have already been amazed with the sound, so I am anxious to hear how much better it can get.

Title: PH 9.0X Upgrade!!!
Post by: modwright on 20 Jan 2021, 06:15 pm
PH 9.0X Details and Benefits!

This on our website, but I wanted to give the full details here also.

What the PH 9.0X upgrade includes:

The upgrade to the PH 9.0X involves the addition of a pair of Lundahl gapped output transformers,
commonly used in SET tube amps. The addition of these transformers also means the elimination of a
pair of chokes and coupling caps, all in the signal path.

Why this upgrade?:
The circuit change made to the PH 9.0X, make it much closer to the PH 150 in terms of overall circuit
design. Various other circuit differences in the PH 9.0 vs. the PH 150 were implemented, to see where
the PH 9.0 could be improved. Most either made no difference, or for whatever reason, did not sound as
good in the PH 9.0. This circuit change however DOES make a difference. The use of the Lundahl output
transformers was one of the cost cutting design changes made to the PH 150 to achieve the PH 9.0. I
found that the improvements were simply big enough that it warranted offering the upgrade, as an add
cost option for the PH 9.0.

Sonic Benefits:
The sonic benefits of this circuit change are obvious and significant! There is better bottom end, more
weight and authority to the sound as well as improved resolution, detail and soundstage.

Technical Explanation:
Eliminating the coupling caps simply cleans up the signal because no coupling cap sounds better than
the best coupling cap. This can be done, because the output transformers can absorb the DC voltage
present at the outputs that the coupling caps otherwise block.
The chokes are replaced also, as the primary winding of the output transformer serves the same
purpose, but does so with a much higher inductance, translating to better bass and performance.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: nature boy on 22 Jan 2021, 11:23 am
Letting the new Lundahl transformer burn in on my new PH 9.0X modifications. Listening bimpressions after about 100 hours.

NB
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Nonnegativ on 23 Jan 2021, 12:07 pm
How about international customers - can the modification be done by authorised dealers/ technicians abroad ?

I an quite entrigued by this modification, since I bought the PH-9 with balanced out, but PH-9 imo. loses a lot of its "soul" running XLR.

I fear I have fight customs about whether it is a new product or a repair if I ship to US. Customs normally win :-(

Best Wishes from Denmark
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: nature boy on 23 Jan 2021, 12:51 pm
You might want to email Dan Wright directly or leave him a PM to see if he can offer a solution. Perhaps he has an authorized distributor overseas that could be helpful?

NB
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: twitch54 on 25 Jan 2021, 04:57 pm
I see here on the forum a S/N ratio of 76db (MC) mentioned, very nice. Why is it not published on the website under 'tech specifications' ?
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: nature boy on 25 Jan 2021, 06:23 pm
I think that post may be incorrect. The specifications on the PH 9.0 can be found here:

www.modwright.com/products/ph-90

Dan has mentioned output with the new PH 9.0X notification increases output somewhat, but I'd stick with the published 64dB output as top output for MC. Unless Dan notes otherwise. BTW this phono preamp handles my low output Dynavector 20X2 cartridge (output voltage 0.3mV) extremely well.

HK
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: twitch54 on 25 Jan 2021, 06:58 pm
I think that post may be incorrect. The specifications on the PH 9.0 can be found here:

www.modwright.com/products/ph-90

Dan has mentioned output with the new PH 9.0X notification increases output somewhat, but I'd stick with the published 64dB output as top output for MC. Unless Dan notes otherwise. BTW this phono preamp handles my low output Dynavector 20X2 cartridge (output voltage 0.3mV) extremely well.

HK

you're confusing output (gain) with Signal-to-Noise ratio, two very different things. A S/N ratio of only 64 would be rather poor !
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 2 Feb 2021, 09:47 pm
I just wanted to comment on my impressions from the 90x upgrade.

When I received the PH 90 back from Dan (after the upgrade to a 90x), I hooked it up and listened.  Unfortunately my auditory memory was not good enough to remember exactly how it sounded before the upgrade.  I liked the tone and my initial impression was positive.  However, the soundstage seemed slightly compressed and the high end sparkle seemed dampened compared to what I remember before.  I inquired with Dan regarding break-in time for the new transformers.  Dan said they should continue to improve for the first 100 hours.

I dug through my things and I found a Hagerman reverse RIAA box that I had purchased a few years back.  I hooked it up to my CD player and ran in the PH 9.0 for a week (to avoid unnecessary wear on my expensive cartridge).

Last night I finally hooked up the PH 9.0 to hear it after the transformers had some burn in time.  I was not prepared for what to expect.
 
The bass was articulate, accurate, and prodigious without being out of balance.  The airy highs were back (and surpassed) what I remember from before the upgrade.  The balance from top to bottom is remarkable.  The soundstage is huge without sounding unnatural.  The space around performers blends in a natural way like a live event.  Imaging is reach out and touch you on well recorded albums.

As a reference, the MC input sounds excellent, but the phono stage really shines when I feed the MM input with my Tribute Audio custom wound MC step up transformer.

I am thrilled with the upgrade.  My only advice is to reserve judgment until after the transformers have a chance to burn in.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Nonnegativ on 14 Mar 2021, 03:34 pm
My upgraded PH-9X arrived in Denmark a few weeks ago, and it has now had about 50 hours of use. I originally ordered the version with balanced out, but found that it sounded best single ended.

The upgrade is imo definitely worth the expense. It has transformed a great phonostage into a magnificent one. All it's original virtues are intact, but the insight into the music has expanded considerably due to it performing at a much higher level. I am now running balanced out with my favorite Amperex USN-CEP 7308's doing it's magic.

It is difficult to describe the update in audiophile terms, so let me try by giving score:

If the PH-9 has a score of 100 in it's original form, then the PH-9X would get a conservative 150 score in my book. That is quite a lot, as we are already up in the higher levels, where differences are small.

It is hard for me to believe it can get better than this after the transformers has had more playing time, but I will gladly accept it. 

All in all: If you upgrade, prepare yourself for quite a sonic revelation. I am extremely satisfied.

Best Wishes from Denmark

Carsten
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Audiosaurusrex on 7 Dec 2021, 02:45 pm
Hi Everyone,
I'm about to pull the trigger on the PH9.0x and wondered if there is a ugrade/replacement for the 6C45 Tubes that are in the unit or if it's even needed?
I don't see anything online in terms of a suitable equivalent.
Thanks
Rene
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: nature boy on 7 Dec 2021, 03:52 pm
The Sovtek 6C45 tubes are about the only option. Supposed to have a 10,000 hour lifespan, so should last a long time. I think Electro Harmonix produced a gold pin option at one time, but no longer. The Sovteks sound great, suggest you look at the 6922 tube options if you want to tube roll in the 9.0X.

NB
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 7 Dec 2021, 06:43 pm
Just to confirm what has already been said. Yes, the 6C45 is a sole source part and yes they are rugged and last a VERY long time! They are an integral part of the first high gain stage. The 6922 is used in the final two gain stages and has much more impact on the sonics of the unit.

As the customer in Denmark said above, the 'X' version IS much better! While I am quite humbled by our Award Winning review in HiFi Choice UK, where our standard PH 9.0 came out on top, I can't wait for them to hear the 9.0X!

Please note that no later than Jan. 1, 2022, there will be price increases across the board for our products and the phono stages are very much impacted! All of our material and component costs as well as vendor costs have increased sharply in recent years and we have no choice but to increase our pricing!

If you are looking to buy a ModWright product, NOW is the time to contact your nearest dealer!

Thanks,

Dan Wright
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Audiosaurusrex on 7 Dec 2021, 07:10 pm
Just to confirm what has already been said. Yes, the 6C45 is a sole source part and yes they are rugged and last a VERY long time! They are an integral part of the first high gain stage. The 6922 is used in the final two gain stages and has much more impact on the sonics of the unit.

As the customer in Denmark said above, the 'X' version IS much better! While I am quite humbled by our Award Winning review in HiFi Choice UK, where our standard PH 9.0 came out on top, I can't wait for them to hear the 9.0X!

Please note that no later than Jan. 1, 2022, there will be price increases across the board for our products and the phono stages are very much impacted! All of our material and component costs as well as vendor costs have increased sharply in recent years and we have no choice but to increase our pricing!

If you are looking to buy a ModWright product, NOW is the time to contact your nearest dealer!

Thanks,

Dan Wright

Thanks so much Dan,
I'm currently using an AT-ART9xa Cartridge with an output of .2mV. I should be okay with the gain settings on the 9.0x, correct?
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 7 Dec 2021, 07:54 pm
Yes, you will. The PH 9.0 standard has 6dB less gain and it would be a stretch. I use a .4mV cart and it is fine with both. The low output cart will work well with the 'X' version.

To be clear, the PH 9.0X has 6db MORE gain than the PH 9.0, via RCA or XLR.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: RonP on 8 Dec 2021, 02:21 am
Just to confirm what has already been said. Yes, the 6C45 is a sole source part and yes they are rugged and last a VERY long time! They are an integral part of the first high gain stage. The 6922 is used in the final two gain stages and has much more impact on the sonics of the unit.


Dan,

could you give us a breakdown on good 6922 options to explore? I'm a tube noob.

Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 8 Dec 2021, 04:42 pm
We provide JJ ECC88's (equivalent to 6922, 7308, 6dj8). Considering ECC88 (Euro designation), 6dj8, 7dj8, 6922 and 7308 to be equivalent and all work in the unit:

Telefunken: VERY Detailed and fast sounding!
Siemens: Also very detailed and resolving.
Amperex: Resolving and very balanced.
Brimar or Mullard: British sound, a bit more warm and relaxed.

There are many more, but these are the ones that I have experience with and that pretty much cover the tonal spectrum.

The REAL expert is Andy at Vintage Tube Electronics: https://vintagetubeelectronics.com/ (https://vintagetubeelectronics.com/)
Note that Andy is old school and you are more likely to get him on the phone than get a speedy email reply. He is also very busy these days, but he is our go-to for good NOS tubes.

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: RonP on 8 Dec 2021, 04:59 pm
Just what I needed. Thanks, Dan! :thumb:
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 8 Dec 2021, 05:01 pm
Most welcome!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Audiosaurusrex on 8 Dec 2021, 05:45 pm
We provide JJ ECC88's (equivalent to 6922, 7308, 6dj8). Considering ECC88 (Euro designation), 6dj8, 7dj8, 6922 and 7308 to be equivalent and all work in the unit:

Telefunken: VERY Detailed and fast sounding!
Siemens: Also very detailed and resolving.
Amperex: Resolving and very balanced.
Brimar or Mullard: British sound, a bit more warm and relaxed.

There are many more, but these are the ones that I have experience with and that pretty much cover the tonal spectrum.

The REAL expert is Andy at Vintage Tube Electronics: https://vintagetubeelectronics.com/ (https://vintagetubeelectronics.com/)
Note that Andy is old school and you are more likely to get him on the phone than get a speedy email reply. He is also very busy these days, but he is our go-to for good NOS tubes.

Thanks,

Dan
+1 Dan is spot on with the those recommendations. Andy recommended these for my Modwright Pioneer LX-500. It's the most unbelievable tube I think I've heard to date. I will contact Andy again when I get my PH9.0x.  :D
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=233433)

Title: HiFi Choice Grouptest Winner: PH 9.0 Tube Phono Stage!
Post by: modwright on 16 Dec 2021, 01:12 am
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=233800)

We are pleased to have our PH 9.0 tube phono stage reviewed in the UK by Hi-Fi Choice, where it was also compared to other phono stages in the same price range. Guess who came out on top?  :icon_lol:

Link to review in HI-FI Choice:
http://www.modwright.com/cms/resources/hfc481gtphonopreampsreprintmodright-low-2.pdf (http://www.modwright.com/cms/resources/hfc481gtphonopreampsreprintmodright-low-2.pdf)

Link to Group Test Verdit in HI-FI Choice:
http://www.modwright.com/cms/resources/hfc481gtoutroreprint-low-3.pdf (http://www.modwright.com/cms/resources/hfc481gtoutroreprint-low-3.pdf)

Huge thanks to David Vivian and HI-FI Choice!



Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: billc on 16 Dec 2021, 06:47 am
Congratulations, Dan! As a PH 9.0X owner, I could not agree more.   :beer:
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: sunnydaze on 16 Dec 2021, 12:59 pm
I think the website link provided by Dan for Andy at Vintage Tube Services is incorrect? 

I believe this is the correct one:

http://vintagetubeservices.com/
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Audiosaurusrex on 16 Dec 2021, 02:27 pm
Ordered my PH9.0x, hoping to see it before Christmas. I don't see anything listed about fuse values or upgrading them. Will that void the warranty and is it even necessary? I do plan on replacing the 6922 tubes. Thanks Everyone!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 16 Dec 2021, 06:25 pm
Fuse size is 3A slow blow. It is located in the external supply. You simply remove the cover and fuse is in CE approved holder. Size = 5mmx20mm.

We are shipping units to Elite Audio, Reference Analog and a customer, tomorrow. We have another going to TMR on the 22nd. Hopefully yours is going out tomorrow!

Thanks,

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Audiosaurusrex on 16 Dec 2021, 06:59 pm
Fuse size is 3A slow blow. It is located in the external supply. You simply remove the cover and fuse is in CE approved holder. Size = 5mmx20mm.

We are shipping units to Elite Audio, Reference Analog and a customer, tomorrow. We have another going to TMR on the 22nd. Hopefully yours is going out tomorrow!

Thanks,

Dan
Thanks Dan, Another addition from the Modwright Family :D Love my Modwright Pioneer LX500, I'm the TMR purchase, they were nice enough to work a trade for me. Happy Holidays!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: RonP on 16 Dec 2021, 06:59 pm
Dan,

what's the word on the correct website for Andy?

I plan on talking to the man in Q1 next year.  8)
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 16 Dec 2021, 07:02 pm
http://vintagetubeservices.com/

Call don't email. Andy is old school.

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Audiosaurusrex on 29 Dec 2021, 02:06 am
I have a few questions about the balanced outputs on the PH9.0x.
Don’t the inputs from the Turntable need to be balanced as well? Or is it balanced within the unit?
Is there a sonic difference between single ended and balanced outs?
Actually I found the answer on Dan’s website.
http://www.modwright.com/cms/resources/1611595991modwrightph9.0xexplanationofupgradebenefits.pdf
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 29 Dec 2021, 11:16 pm
The short answer is no, you don't need to have fully balanced connections from the tonearm. I am not sure if there would be benefits there or not. I would have had to change the design a bit to allow this to be done. There are very few TT's with balanced tonearm cables that I know of, so I did not include this option on our PH 9.0/ PH 9.0X.

We offer both a 'Balanced Upgrade' version and the PH 9.0X which includes fully balanced outs by design. The first is a standard PH 9.0 that we add a pair of cap coupled 1:1 output transformers to create a fully balanced output signal.

The PH 9.0X uses high grade Lundahl output transformers as part of the output circuit, direct-coupled (eliminating coupling caps) and involves a totally redesigned output stage for much better sound and +6dB net gain.

Because the unit is SE in, whether via SUT (MC) or MM, the output transformers convert single ended to fully balanced via the best way possible. The impedance matching and galvanic decoupling inherent in transformer coupled phase splitters make them the ideal way to achieved fully balanced operation, in my opinion.

Thanks,

Dan W.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Audiosaurusrex on 3 Jan 2022, 03:36 pm
In the house. Packed meticulously. Rock solid Construction, Art and Engineering at it's finest. Or as Modwright puts it… Elegance, Simplicity, Truth……Can't wait to hook it up :D Thanks Dan!

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=234727)
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 4 Jan 2022, 05:27 pm
Thank you so much for that!

The PH 9.0X does embody all that ModWright stands for! It is purpose built for the best possible sound and value. It is our best selling product!

Enjoy!

Dan
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Stefan_DR3 on 16 Jul 2023, 10:39 pm
Can the MC loading be further customized by changing a resistor internally?  I would like to have more options in the 330 - 390 ohm range and don’t mind sacrificing some of the lower values that I would never use.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: GregC on 16 Jul 2023, 11:10 pm
I use the MM input with a step up transformer.  My transformer allows resistors to be easily loaded on the back side of it to fine tune the impedance.   

You can also get an RCA splitter and load one of the RCA inputs with a resistor of choice.

Just a couple other options to consider.     
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Stefan_DR3 on 9 Aug 2023, 01:48 am
The resistors on the load selector circuit appear to be easily accessible.  I was just wondering if I could customize one setting at the time of ordering.  If not I could replace a couple resistors myself, like we used to do in the old days!

Thanks
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Rocket on 9 Aug 2023, 11:20 am
Hi,

I'd send a message to Dan if I was you.

Cheers Rod
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Stefan_DR3 on 10 Aug 2023, 03:54 pm
I will email them before ordering, if I order.

Since I have more questions I started a new thread here:

https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=186725.0

Linked here to get more views.
Title: New Umbilical Upgrade!
Post by: modwright on 22 Sep 2023, 05:37 pm
Our new upgraded phono power umbilical!

(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=256860)

New PH 9.O/X/T Ugraded power umbilical - $395.
Proprietary in-house design using Cardas metals ultra pure copper in Teflon tubing, Carbon fiber jacketing and internal shielding to allow the cleanest and best connection between outboard supply and phono. Sold as factory direct upgrade or as $395 retail cost add from dealer, to replace stock umbilical.

We now have the following options and upgrades for the PH 9.0 tube phono stages:

Standard PH 9.0 tube phono with outboard supply.
PH 9.0X or 'X' upgrade, which takes the expensive output stage from the PH 150, includes fully balanced and RCA outs and 6dB more gain - $1250 upgrade cost.
PH 9.0XT or 'T' upgrade, which adds a high voltage pre-regulator and tube rectification to the outboard supply. This allows a broad range of tube rolling from 5AR4, GZ34, 5U4G, 5R4GYS, 274B and all equivalents - $500 upgrade cost.
Upgraded umbilical (above) for use between phono and power supply - $495.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: davehg on 15 Oct 2023, 04:25 am
Hi @modwright , I am about 2 weeks into PH 9.0 XT ownership and absolutely smitten. Upgraded from a Manley Chinook SE, which was fine but not in the same league as the MW. I love that the PH9 has a tube rectified power supply.

Question on the rectifier tube used in the T upgrade. Your note above says a wide variety of tubes can be used including 274b. Some rectifiers like the 274b are direct heated (instant on) while others like the 5AR4 are indirectly heated and slow turn on. The Sophia 274b in particular warns about using in place of a 5AR4 unless the first stage caps are below a certain value:

Note(*): 274B is a direct heating tube. The indirect heating 5AR4 may turn on slower; however, people who buy 274B are for its superior sonic performance. To fully utilize its benefits, it may require the first stage capacitor (capacitor input) to be less than 10MFD; otherwise, it would shorten the 274B life span (very much like smoking is bad for your health). It would not be a problem with common choke input. Please consult your amplifier maker or refer to a tube manual. This 274B is an update of the NOS WE 274B, so both share the same characteristics.

https://sophiaelectric.com/products/pages-se-274b

I’ve got several substitutions for a 5AR4 including 274b, 6087, 5Y3GT, 5U4G etc. Can I safely use these or should I stick with indirectly heated tube like the 5AR4 or 6087?

Thanks for your feedback in advance!
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 16 Oct 2023, 04:01 pm
Hi, the power supply is designed with capacitor size such that it can be used with 274B and direct and non-direct heated rectifier tubes.

I really appreciate your feedback!

Take care and enjoy.

Dan Wright
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: davehg on 16 Oct 2023, 05:33 pm
Thanks Dan.  Great to know I can use a variety of tubes.

I was unprepared by how good the PH9.0 sounds with my low output cartridges. I think the X upgrade and the Lundahls really shine - no need for an SUT.

But I have to believe the tube rectified PS plays a big role in why this sounds so good. I’m curious about the cable upgrade too - is this slighter improvement or on the same scale as the T upgrade?

Thanks for making excellent gear especially at this price point. I assumed I’d have to pay 7-8k to make a big leap but even at 5.2k I’d daresay the PH is a bit of a bargain.
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: modwright on 16 Oct 2023, 05:49 pm
You are most welcome and yes, the X upgrade does add 6dB, which does allow for use of .2mV carts. I have been auditioning a .2mV Koetsu in my system and it does work well! I am looking at offering a SUT with the highest grade SUT's for those who want it, and it will be 1:10, 1:20, but most people would never need more than 1:10 when used with the PH 9.0 phono stage.

As for the cable upgrade, it is not as big of an impact as the T upgrade. However, all of the customers who have received it, have also been very pleased with the improvement.

I agree that the performance of the PH 9.0/X/T is such that it performs at a level of other phono stages that cost far more! This was the design intent, basing the PH 9.0 on the PH 150 design, but judicously cutting costs. The X upgrade added in the biggest design  change from the PH 150 which makes a big difference and the T upgrade as you know is yet another level of performance, as is the upgraded umbilical which was offered based on customer demand.

We have also released the KWA 99 monoblock amplifiers at $4500 EA. and the LS 99 balanced tube preamp at $6500, based on our $11K LS 300 balanced tube pre. These products are all in a series with the PH 9.0 products, in similarly compact 10"W enclosures and with the same level of aesthetics, which allows us to keep  the cost down, and performance very high! The biggest difference betwen the LS 99 and LS 300 is that the LS 300 is fully dual mono, while the LS 99 has a single transformer and rectifier. Virtually all else is the same, and the LS 99 is $4500 less in cost.

The KWA 99 mosfet monoblocks are 100W @ 8 ohms and 200W @ 4 ohms and they are the best sounding amps we have released to date, in my opinion. Unlike the $11K KWA 150SE stereo amp (85lb), the KWA 99 monoblocks are 30lb each and 10.5"W x 6.5"H x 16"D. These  are designed with Exicon Lateral MosFETs and are biased much higher than our other amps due to the  chassis design allowing for heat rejection from the heatsinks.

All of these designs are in keeping with what I believe to be the direction of a majority of our customers are going: Better use of space, ease of move and lifting, lower cost and high value.

Thank you.

Dan Wright
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Stefan_DR3 on 17 Oct 2023, 03:40 pm
I’m curious about the cable upgrade too - is this slighter improvement or on the same scale as the T upgrade?

Assuming it's just carrying DC power, I would not expect it to be anywhere near as important as the T upgrade.

I have given up and sent the unit back to the dealer.  Too many unanswered questions here: https://www.audiocircle.com/index.php?topic=186725.0
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: davehg on 17 Oct 2023, 04:14 pm
Did you call ModWright? I called two times and got solid answers to my early questions.

The owners manual is online here:

https://www.modwright.com/wp-content/uploads/1591650156ph9.0ownersmanual.pdf
Title: Re: New Phono stage: PH 9.0 MM/MC with on-the-fly loading!
Post by: Stefan_DR3 on 22 Oct 2023, 02:22 pm
Did you call ModWright? I called two times and got solid answers to my early questions.

The owners manual is online here:

https://www.modwright.com/wp-content/uploads/1591650156ph9.0ownersmanual.pdf

No, it would be a costly international call for me.  As I stated in my other post, 9.0X operation is not discussed in the 9.0 manual.

I asked here because I figured other users and professional reviewers would have tested the balanced outputs, since the 9.0X mod makes such a big deal about them.