[Marius]

HI James,


I'm having (had) difficulties on several speakers, not to mention my current and new ESL's (which i will be taking back to the manufacturer) on recordings by the Tallis Scholars. Not grand orchestral, not full scale Opera  or big rock recordings, but very intimate 8 voice a capella choir settings of renaissance music... Turned up to 13 o clock on the BP26, not a very loud recording.


That being said, the speakers tend to distort horrifically on passages where the 2 (!) sopranos tend to take focus, and apparently that is very tough on the speakers. Had it on quite a few recordings, but their last Taverner disc http://www.gimell.com/recording-missa-corona-spinea-and-dum-transisset-sabbatum-i---ii.aspx is very demonstrative.


At first i thought it might be the download (always buy Studio Masters, in this case the 24 bit 172khz) the BDP or the BDA1 that could handle it. Therefore I also ordered the CD. Though that does sound better quite a bit (still love my BCD1) than playing it on the BDP1, even there the passages are not very comfortable.


Long story short: would it be in anyway possible for you to test this recording on the Model T's to see how they fare. Would be a very big plus on the Bucketlist.... Finally here the Tallis Scholars live size in my auditorium, and not being afraid of to much power to damage the sound or the speakers...


Cheers,
Marius

[James Tanner]

HI James,


I'm having (had) difficulties on several speakers, not to mention my current and new ESL's (which i will be taking back to the manufacturer) on recordings by the Tallis Scholars. Not grand orchestral, not full scale Opera  or big rock recordings, but very intimate 8 voice a capella choir settings of renaissance music... Turned up to 13 o clock on the BP26, not a very loud recording.


That being said, the speakers tend to distort horrifically on passages where the 2 (!) sopranos tend to take focus, and apparently that is very tough on the speakers. Had it on quite a few recordings, but their last Taverner disc http://www.gimell.com/recording-missa-corona-spinea-and-dum-transisset-sabbatum-i---ii.aspx is very demonstrative.


At first i thought it might be the download (always buy Studio Masters, in this case the 24 bit 172khz) the BDP or the BDA1 that could handle it. Therefore I also ordered the CD. Though that does sound better quite a bit (still love my BCD1) than playing it on the BDP1, even there the passages are not very comfortable.


Long story short: would it be in anyway possible for you to test this recording on the Model T's to see how they fare. Would be a very big plus on the Bucketlist.... Finally here the Tallis Scholars live size in my auditorium, and not being afraid of to much power to damage the sound or the speakers...


Cheers,
Marius

Hi Marius

Yes I have owned all the Quads over the years and I agree their abilities on micro dynamics are superb but macro dynamics are not their forte.

The Model T's will accept HUGE amounts of power without distortion.  Here is a graph that Soundstage did during a review of the Model T's in an anechoic chamber showing just that.   The bottom line is the frequency response at 90DB and that is usually the amplitude the magazines test speakers at.  If it looks good then then try at 95dB to see if there is any variance or breakup due to amplitude distortion. They told me with the model T they kept going all the way up to 110dB.  As you can see no change in the frequency response which is indicative of a speaker that can play at real world levels with very low distortion.



Ultimately  you have to move air at low distortion to approach real world dynamics - the Bryston speakers are designed to do just that.

james

[Marius]

HI James,


Thank you!
Im convinced the distortion at real world dynamics is handled perfectly by the Model T.


As I've tried to describe, I'm not convinced it is a dynamic issue perse I'm experiencing. It seems to be that human voice, especially in the higher frequencies, is causing the distortion. A bit like playing several high notes on a glockenspiel can turn your inner-ear bones to confusion and cause frequency interference. This is exactly what seems to happen to my ESL's.


Its is also apparent when listening to a Lied recital, where only one singer and a piano are playing. Wouldn't say the amount of dB' are enormous, but enough for the speakers to have difficulties when singing the forte passages.


'Funny' thing is the main complaint on ESL always is the bass bit, while the middle and upper frequency transparency is always hailed. Not so. No issues in the bass department (thanks to 10bsub and Rel). This solo forte-voice issue is a real pita, excuse le mot.


Maybe its has to do with Solo Voice not being drowned by a bigger sound background of a band or orchestra. No Loudness -war thing, no limiting being done. The sudden extremes of pure voice seem to be more difficult than 'big sound'.


100 dB Solo Voice is something else than 100dB Rockband/Opera?


Hence my original question....


Cheers,


Marius


 

Hi Marius

Yes I have owned all the Quads over the years and I agree their abilities on micro dynamics are superb but macro dynamics are not their forte.

The Model T's will accept HUGE amounts of power without distortion.  Here is a graph that Soundstage did during a review of the Model T's in an anechoic chamber showing just that.   The bottom line is the frequency response at 90DB and that is usually the amplitude the magazines test speakers at.  If it looks good then then try at 95dB to see if there is any variance or breakup due to amplitude distortion. They told me with the model T they kept going all the way up to 110dB.  As you can see no change in the frequency response which is indicative of a speaker that can play at real world levels with very low distortion.



Ultimately  you have to move air at low distortion to approach real world dynamics - the Bryston speakers are designed to do just that.

james

[gene9p]

HI James,


I'm having (had) difficulties on several speakers, not to mention my current and new ESL's (which i will be taking back to the manufacturer) on recordings by the Tallis Scholars. Not grand orchestral, not full scale Opera  or big rock recordings, but very intimate 8 voice a capella choir settings of renaissance music... Turned up to 13 o clock on the BP26, not a very loud recording.


That being said, the speakers tend to distort horrifically on passages where the 2 (!) sopranos tend to take focus, and apparently that is very tough on the speakers. Had it on quite a few recordings, but their last Taverner disc http://www.gimell.com/recording-missa-corona-spinea-and-dum-transisset-sabbatum-i---ii.aspx is very demonstrative.


At first i thought it might be the download (always buy Studio Masters, in this case the 24 bit 172khz) the BDP or the BDA1 that could handle it. Therefore I also ordered the CD. Though that does sound better quite a bit (still love my BCD1) than playing it on the BDP1, even there the passages are not very comfortable.


Long story short: would it be in anyway possible for you to test this recording on the Model T's to see how they fare. Would be a very big plus on the Bucketlist.... Finally here the Tallis Scholars live size in my auditorium, and not being afraid of to much power to damage the sound or the speakers...


Cheers,
Marius

to me hi-Rez downloads sound a bit harsh and more "digital" I play them on my OPPO bdp103, then on to my BDA-1 via the optical input. CD's of the same recordings sound smoother. I also found using the analog outs of the OPPO directly to my Parasound JC2 sound better than the digital connection. So don't put too much into hi-rez downloads. Some sound good, others can be very disappointing. Too much digital isn't a good thing. I am not saying MP3 's are better. I am saying cd's and LP's are a better test for your speakers. I have the Mini T's and I can surely hear a big  difference on some downloads of favorites that I just don't like at all.

[James Tanner]

MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Bryston Mini A Speaker Wins Best of 2015 !

December 2015



Congratulations Bryston!

You’ve won a Home Theater Review ‘Best of 2015 Award’ for the Bryston Mini-A Loudspeaker.

Jerry Del Colliano
Editor

 


Home Theater Review's “Best of 2015 Awards”

Last year's best-of list included the Bryston Middle T tower speaker, so we had high hopes for the Mini A bookshelf speaker. Happily, it didn't disappoint.

While Dennis Burger found its appearance to be a little pedestrian for the price, he still ranked the Mini A, paired with the AC1 Micro center channel, amongst his favorite bookshelf speaker systems.

[James Tanner]

Hi Folks,

Working on some new packaging for the Bryston speakers:



james

[Mag]

Don't think I could get those boxes down my stairs, good packaging though, coming from a courier driver.

 Back in the 90's I delivered some satellite stuff to Canada Post. The box was clearly labelled with fragile stickers on all sides and was about 60 lbs. I carefully unloaded the box from my van and handed it over to dock worker. It was too heavy for him and he just dropped it about 3 feet, I laughed, because I couldn't believe what I had just saw.

Do the speakers still come wrapped in Bryston speaker sack aka Bryston Burial Shroud?

[Mag]

Hey, just a thought, Mr. Tanner.  There's a business in Saskatoon, SBC Case that makes various road cases. Maybe you can have custom speaker cases made with handles and caster wheels that you can give to dealers to re-package speakers, then deliver to customer. The customer can than give you the cases back once unpacked.

I had some difficulty moving the boxes without handles, so I used straps but they didn't stay in place and the box almost slid all the way down the stairs. I didn't want to chance moving speakers without the boxes down stairs and risk cosmetic damage.

Those boxes above would only fit through a standard door sideways. And could be difficult to maneuver even with a dolly without an extra helping hand. 

[James Tanner]

Hey, just a thought, Mr. Tanner.  There's a business in Saskatoon, SBC Case that makes various road cases. Maybe you can have custom speaker cases made with handles and caster wheels that you can give to dealers to re-package speakers, then deliver to customer. The customer can than give you the cases back once unpacked.

I had some difficulty moving the boxes without handles, so I used straps but they didn't stay in place and the box almost slid all the way down the stairs. I didn't want to chance moving speakers without the boxes down stairs and risk cosmetic damage.

Those boxes above would only fit through a standard door sideways. And could be difficult to maneuver even with a dolly without an extra helping hand. 

Hi Mag

Yes I have flight cases for all the speakers that I use at shows but they are very expensive and most customers do not need to repack but good idea for a dealer if shipping demos around.

james

[scirica]

Hey, just a thought, Mr. Tanner.  There's a business in Saskatoon, SBC Case that makes various road cases. Maybe you can have custom speaker cases made with handles and caster wheels that you can give to dealers to re-package speakers, then deliver to customer. The customer can than give you the cases back once unpacked.

I had some difficulty moving the boxes without handles, so I used straps but they didn't stay in place and the box almost slid all the way down the stairs. I didn't want to chance moving speakers without the boxes down stairs and risk cosmetic damage.

Those boxes above would only fit through a standard door sideways. And could be difficult to maneuver even with a dolly without an extra helping hand. 

You need to do what I did. Have James and Gary come to your house to set them up!!

[James Tanner]

Hi Folks,

I thought some may find this interesting.  It is a measurement made by a reviewer on our Model T Speakers in his room.

To: 'James Tanner'

Subject: RE: Bryston Model T Signature Speaker

Hi James,

I really have not measured many speakers in my room. That said, from what I have done, The Model T have measured the best.

Please see the attached measurements using TrueRTA and a calibrated mic measured a bit above my listening position, on axis, at 13 feet from the speakers. Again, please keep in mind these were basically done out of curiosity, and by no means constitute a “professional” measurement.

 Cheers,

Left Speaker:



Right Speaker:




 

[James Tanner]

http://av2day.com/2015/11/bryston-a3-floorstanding-speakers/

[James Tanner]

MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Model A1 – Professional Feedback

January 2016

Hello James.

I've been holding off sending in my review of my Model A1's as I've been trying just about every genre of music and sounds to put them threw their paces, if you will. Being a professional audio engineer I demand perfection from my gear.




The Model A1's have performed wonderfully! They are being driven by a 4B and have been performing as well as they look. Pure jewellery! Bravo!!!

I have sent them sound sources that most people would never have occasion to and I must say that the Model A1's do what they do so well and with effortless perfection. I have yet to hear any sound source that needed any kind of "help" via EQ or otherwise.

I have shown them off to anyone who will listen. Everyone agrees that they are the best sounding and looking speakers that they've ever heard or seen.

I say; "Bragging rights? BRYSTON!"

Sincerely,
Kenneth B Veitch
Professional Audio/lighting Engineer
Casino Rama, Kingbridge Centre, Various Major Cruise lines.

[James Tanner]

MEMO: To All Bryston Customers
SUBJECT: Sneak Peak – Bryston Surround  System Review

Sneak Peak !



Doug Blackburn from Widescreen Review Magazine has done a very extensive review of a Bryston Surround System which will be published in their February 2016 addition.

Favourite Quotes:

The Bryston A2s don’t editorialize the sound in any way I can identify. They don’t sound fast/slow or bright/dark or etched/rounded. They just sound normal/natural and un-gimmicked. This is the kind of sound few people dream of, but most people should want the natural sound of loudspeakers like the A2s.

Bryston did exactly the right thing with the design of the AC-1 Mini. It’s the sort of center channel I would consider owning if my setup allowed for the fairly large size of the AC-1 Mini.

Music listening on the Bryston Mini A speakers was surprisingly satisfying. I easily got drawn in during several listening sessions that were supposed to be brief examinations. Each session turned into a few hours of listening to both new and old favorite tracks.

The quality of the Bryston Model A Sub’s bass is excellent overall. It’s as good as any subwoofer I’ve heard down to its limit.

Bryston has delivered the sort of loudspeakers you might expect from a well-respected electronic components manufacturer. Serious performers, no baloney design, no silly/snake-oil explanations about how the loudspeakers work, no outrageous claims. Just solid engineering, purposeful design, engineered for reliability and performance.

[James Tanner]

More great feedback on the Bryston A2 Speaker:

[bud1451]

Hello James

I've been searching for better pictures of the Model T in Walnut....doesn't seem to be many online.

Can you post a few pictures of the walnut...please

[James Tanner]

[bud1451]

Nice......Thanks

[spotlightaudio]

Hi,
Do the A series employ the same midrange drivers and tweeters as the Model T ? 

[James Tanner]

Hi,
Do the A series employ the same midrange drivers and tweeters as the Model T ? 

Hi

Yes identical.

I wanted the choice between the Model T Series and the A Series to be one of Application not Performance differences.

James