[jhm731]

https://darko.audio/2018/12/the-loudspeaker-bargain-of-2018/

[2bigears]

  wonder if they would have shipped to Canada,,,, I need a small set of speakers,,,,dam. 
         Merry Merry everybody,,,,

[wushuliu]

Just saw them at Best Buy. Wow. Great build quality. They are bigger than they seem in photos. They are inert when you tap on them. Andrew Jones really changed the game for budget speakers with the Debuts.

[OzarkTom]

Now add the Burson Bang amp, $400 at Parts Connection and the Nobsound Passive, $56 at Amazon. A killer C&C system.

[jmc207]

Or, for even less money, go with the Dayton Audio APA150 amp with built-in volume control for $145 at Parts-Express. Less than $300 total for speakers and amp if you got the speakers on sale.

[OzarkTom]

Or, for even less money, go with the Dayton Audio APA150 amp with built-in volume control for $145 at Parts-Express. Less than $300 total for speakers and amp if you got the speakers on sale.

If you ever get to hear that Bang amp, you will understand why I recommenced it.

[Letitroll98]

I'm going to have to get down to BB to hear these.  I'm NOT in the market for yet another pair of bookshelves, but I'd like to know what all the fuss is about.

[kbuzz3]

Same. Any actually heard them?

[jmc207]

If you ever get to hear that Bang amp, you will understand why I recommenced it.

Thanks! I look into that.

[mrhyfy]

Same. Any actually heard them?

I bought a pair on Black Friday.....IMHO, they are good but NOT great.  They sound really nice, great bass and wonderful imaging.BUT ,, don't turn them up loud. They seem to get bogged down with massed instruments. 
Sent mine back.

[Bemopti123]

The biggest test for these speakers is to see whether they can truly run with other illustrious bookshelves at a certain price range.  Remember the Oppo BR/DVD players that whose innards were shoved into milled aluminum cases were marked up 3X?  That will be the sign of a truly timeless and competent design.   

[rotarius]

I just got them from Crutchfield, couldn't resist at the sale price.  The cabinets do sound less hollow with the ol' knuckle rap compared to the originals.  Only ran them for 3-4 hours and they sound open and clean but light on the bass compared to similar sized bookshelves.  Hope the bass fills in with more run in time because midrange is quite nice.  I have not heard the issue with massed instruments like mrhyfy and I listen to lots of classical.  I'll have to hook them up to my high power tpa3255 amp and report back.

[abd1]

$149 a pair? Either they're not making money on this or it just shows how cheap manufacturing at scale can be. That's a great price for a pair of any decent speakers and these are above decent.

[rotarius]

$149 a pair? Either they're not making money on this or it just shows how cheap manufacturing at scale can be. That's a great price for a pair of any decent speakers and these are above decent.

Oh they are making money on these.  The only time they would sell at or below cost is if there was a large batch of speakers that had some kind of defect and it would make more sense to get rid of them rather than fix the issue.  I would hope the manufacturer would disclose that but who knows? 
That might explain the missing bass 

[2bigears]

  I bought the smaller next size down set,  sent them back.   
      One good thing about Amazon     JB makes 250 million a day,, good lord 

[wushuliu]

CNET tested the bass down to high 40s for the 6.2, however they stressed that the 6.2 is not warm and laid back like the previous version - which is what some people complained about. Elac focused on midrange/treble clarity this time around. Can't please everyone.

[mix4fix]

Do they still make those modded Pioneers?

[JLM]

My vote goes for the JBL LSR305 Mk2, a solid step up from the original 305 in terms of musicality.  The original way out performed the Elac B6.  Both JBL's have a MSRP of $300/pair and are active, so no power amps or speaker cable needed, they are just plain stupid good.

[rotarius]

CNET tested the bass down to high 40s for the 6.2, however they stressed that the 6.2 is not warm and laid back like the previous version - which is what some people complained about. Elac focused on midrange/treble clarity this time around. Can't please everyone.

Could be just my pair but the woofer output drops in a hurry below 100 hz.  It's down 12 db going from 100 hz to 63 hz with my decibel meter 6 feet away.  There is no way to duplicate what CNet got without serious boundary reinforcement.  I have the stands about 3 feet away from any wall.  For comparison, Wharfedale 9.2 and Polk Tsix100 had more bass in the same room. They sound more balanced when moved within a foot of the front wall but harsh in the treble.
Oh well, worth a shot but might be going back.

[wushuliu]

Could be just my pair but the woofer output drops in a hurry below 100 hz.  It's down 12 db going from 100 hz to 63 hz with my decibel meter 6 feet away.  There is no way to duplicate what CNet got without serious boundary reinforcement.  I have the stands about 3 feet away from any wall.  For comparison, Wharfedale 9.2 and Polk Tsix100 had more bass in the same room. They sound more balanced when moved within a foot of the front wall but harsh in the treble.
Oh well, worth a shot but might be going back.

Being front ported, these are probably meant to be closer to the wall.