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No comments from those who traded-up their LIO to the L2i?
Steve
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No comments from those who traded-up their LIO to the L2i?
Steve
Hi SteveKi,
I've been very busy getting L2i and L2i-SE orders shipped to our dealers this month, but I am also finally just starting to ship out
units to customers who traded-in their LIO. Next week I'm off to Capital Audio Fest and then the New York Show (so I'll be away from production for 2+ weeks), and then more L2i / L2i-SE units from LIO customers will ship mid/late November and all throughout December. The queue has filled up more than I imagined it would, and I just can't go any faster.
I also need to start new L2i / L2i-SE threads on my forum... I've just been overly busy, so my available time for this forum is currently much lower than I'd like (as you can probably tell). Long-term, I'm not so sure if I'll have enough time for it. We'll see...
There are also L2i / L2i-SE reviews in works! I'm not sure they will be published before the end of the year (one is with The Absolute Sound magazine, but naturally there is some lag with a magazine from when the review is completed to when it is in print).
So expect to hear a lot more about L2i and L2i-SE throughout 2020... as I just only officially started production a few weeks ago. :hyper:
Thank you,
Vinnie
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Where are all those LIO's gonna go that are on the business end of the trade-up?
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Where are all those LIO's gonna go that are on the business end of the trade-up?
Yomaha,
I sell trade-in LIO units factory-direct, with a 5-year warranty. If you would like to be added to the list, please
email me (and specify the features that you are looking for, max budget, etc.).
http://www.vinnierossi.com/lio-audio-component/ (http://www.vinnierossi.com/lio-audio-component/)
(I also have some with the DHT PRE option)
Thank you,
Vinnie
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That's how I purchased mine..no DHT....added a few mods, amp, xlr's, extra set of rca's, dac one....awesome!!! Vinnie's support is simply the best if you have any questions.
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That's how I purchased mine..no DHT....added a few mods, amp, xlr's, extra set of rca's, dac one....awesome!!! Vinnie's support is simply the best if you have any questions.
Vinnie,
Will you be selling used Trade-Up modules separately, ie if gene9p wants to upgrade to DHT, or just configured LIO's?
Steve
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I didn't upgrade from a LIO, but when I heard the L2i in Denver I was beyond impressed! This design incorporating Vinnie's DHT preamp and his dual mono Mosfet output stage is stunningly good, and the DAC option is also a winner comparing to outboard DACs several times its cost. Compared to the marketplace of separates and the elimination of commensurate cable costs, the L2i is not only a Summit-Fi product but a bargain as well!
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Vinnie,
Will you be selling used Trade-Up modules separately, ie if gene9p wants to upgrade to DHT, or just configured LIO's?
Steve
Hi Steve,
Yes - I should be able to offer this.
I didn't upgrade from a LIO, but when I heard the L2i in Denver I was beyond impressed! This design incorporating Vinnie's DHT preamp and his dual mono Mosfet output stage is stunningly good, and the DAC option is also a winner comparing to outboard DACs several times its cost. Compared to the marketplace of separates and the elimination of commensurate cable costs, the L2i is not only a Summit-Fi product but a bargain as well!
Hi KLH007,
Thanks for your feedback - and glad you enjoyed our room at RMAF and the L2i-SE! 8)
Next week is Capital Audio Fest, and the week after is the New York Audio Show. :singing:
Vinnie
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Its been very silent on this thread. :o
Would be very interesting to hear from those who have received their L2 integrated , basic or SE model.
Especially comparisions with LIO :)
/Magnus
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Mine should be here this month. Will keep you posted.
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Mine should be here this month. Will keep you posted.
Thanks! Look forward to it!
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Pardon me to chime in on this thread. I'm very fortunate to receive my L2i-SE (after LIO DHT trade-in) from Vinnie about a couple of days ago. Straight out of the box I must say that the L2i-SE with its AL heatsink side panels, resembles an awesome drone from some sci-fi movies. Although the L2i-SE does not has many hours of burn-in, the initial listenings are quite astounding. In comparison to the LIO DHT, I am presented with a spacious soundstage with amazing depth, air and dynamic resolution with crystal-clear images of instruments and vocals. L2i-SE does not lack in well-defined bass extension. Overall, I like the natural and smooth sound quality of the L2i-SE and for me at least there is no regret that L2i-SE is now part of my audio system family and residing in my listening room. Briefly, my audio equipment consist of the Rega Apollo CDP feeding the L2 DAC of the L2i-SE and to a pair of Harbeth SHL5+ 40th Anniversary speakers.
My $0.02 worth of opinion.
Terence
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=201354)
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Bet the harbeths love the tube magic and extra power!!!
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Pardon me to chime in on this thread. I'm very fortunate to receive my L2i-SE (after LIO DHT trade-in) from Vinnie about a couple of days ago. Straight out of the box I must say that the L2i-SE with its AL heatsink side panels, resembles an awesome drone from some sci-fi movies. Although the L2i-SE does not has many hours of burn-in, the initial listenings are quite astounding. In comparison to the LIO DHT, I am presented with a spacious soundstage with amazing depth, air and dynamic resolution with crystal-clear images of instruments and vocals. L2i-SE does not lack in well-defined bass extension. Overall, I like the natural and smooth sound quality of the L2i-SE and for me at least there is no regret that L2i-SE is now part of my audio system family and residing in my listening room. Briefly, my audio equipment consist of the Rega Apollo CDP feeding the L2 DAC of the L2i-SE and to a pair of Harbeth SHL5+ 40th Anniversary speakers.
My $0.02 worth of opinion.
Terence
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=201323)
Thanks Terence, very much appreciated. Hope you can return with more feedback as it gets more burned in.
Interesting to see that you find it so much better than the LIO even from very few hours on it. I have the regular LIO with AVC/tubestage now
and aiming for the L2i standard amp which probably will be a big jump for me too in SQ. :D
Magnus
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Bet the harbeths love the tube magic and extra power!!!
I believe you are right and Harbeths love tubes and I have the Tak 300Bs in the L2i-SE. Simply love the sweet mids of the Harbeths. With the extra power of the L2i-SE anything is possible. Your chance will come when you sample the L2i-SE! And please post your impressions.
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Thanks Terence, very much appreciated. Hope you can return with more feedback as it gets more burned in.
Interesting to see that you find it so much better than the LIO even from very few hours on it. I have the regular LIO with AVC/tubestage now
and aiming for the L2i standard amp which probably will be a big jump for me too in SQ. :D
Magnus
Magnus, you are most welcome. :thumb: Just like you, I started off from LIO with AVC/tubestage and subsequently to LIO DHT with LIO 2.0 and finally L2i-SE with L2 DAC. And with every upgrade along the way your WOW and satisfying factor will increase and definitely the L2i standard amp will have higher SQ in comparison to your LIO. :banana piano:
Terence
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(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=201345)
Hi Terence,
Thank you for sharing your early impressions of your stealth black L2i-SE! 8)
All,
I've fallen a bit behind on LIO trade-up to the L2i / L2i-SE orders (I was sick with a virus last week), but am catching up and will be shipping again this week, and throughout December.
As always, feel free to email me directly (instead of PM'ing via audiocircle) if you have any questions.
Thanks again for all your patience - I promise it will be well-worth the wait. :inlove:
Vinnie
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(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=201624)
I have just received my unit on Monday night. 1st of all, I have underestimated the weight of the new amp as compared to the LIO. An extra pair of hands is definitely required to remove the amp from its triple box.
My setup as follows Auralic Aries G2 - LSi-SE - Kii three speakers and TAK 300B
Many of you will be wondering why I bought an integrated amp, a pair of Harbeths or Qln may be in the planning.
With the new amp in place, everything was taken up many levels as compared to the LIO. I am getting a deeper and wider soundstage, better transparency. Most importantly the presence of the mids is amazing. Was playing the song Take My Breath Away and the presence of the singer really took my breath away...
Will post more as the unit runs in.
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(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=201624)
I have just received my unit on Monday night. 1st of all, I have underestimated the weight of the new amp as compared to the LIO. An extra pair of hands is definitely required to remove the amp from its triple box.
My setup as follows Auralic Aries G2 - LSi-SE - Kii three speakers and TAK 300B
Many of you will be wondering why I bought an integrated amp, a pair of Harbeths or Qln may be in the planning.
With the new amp in place, everything was taken up many levels as compared to the LIO. I am getting a deeper and wider soundstage, better transparency. Most importantly the presence of the mids is amazing. Was playing the song Take My Breath Away and the presence of the singer really took my breath away...
Will post more as the unit runs in.
Hi lengcm,
A nice setup! :drool: Thanks for sharing your impressions of the L2i-SE with the Taks 300B. As I can see, another proud & satisfied owner of Vinnie's L2i-SE, "a one of its kind DHT Hybrid Integrated Amplifier in the world." :hyper:
Terence
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(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=201345)
All,
I've fallen a bit behind on LIO trade-up to the L2i / L2i-SE orders (I was sick with a virus last week), but am catching up and will be shipping again this week, and throughout December.
Vinnie
I got your bug now...UGH!!!!!! :icon_frown:
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With the price difference between L2 pre amp vs L2 integrated .... should I go for integrated ? or I should go for L2 pre-amp (I have a pair of ARC M160) for better sound quality, if any ?
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Hi lengcm,
Thank you for posting your initial impressions of your L2i-SE!
Hi Mitch751,
There are two ways to go:
1) Go with the L2 Preamplifier to drive your M160s.
2) Go with the L2i-SE, and then you can turn on/off the speaker output stage and compare it to your M160s.
You get more flexibility this way (you can use the L2i-SE as a preamp, or integrated amp).
In either case above, you will get a significant upgrade compared to your LIO, and you can transfer your LIO DAC 2.0 into either
L2 component.
If you have additional questions, feel free to email me.
Best regards,
Vinnie
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Thank you for the reply , but in term of the preamp sound quality, are they exactly same ? Or L2 is better ?
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Thank you for the reply , but in term of the preamp sound quality, are they exactly same ? Or L2 is better ?
Hi Mitch751,
The DHT preamplifier stage in the L2i-SE is very similar in design to the one used in the L2 Signature Preamplifier, but not exactly the same.
The L2 Signature Preamplifier offers the lowest possible background noise, as it does not contain the L2i-SE's two additional power supplies for the dual-mono speaker output stages.
Vinnie
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Now I fully understand, thank you ... just send you an email
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I've never read such an enthusiastic review about any product: https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2019/12/07/hifi-review-vinnie-rossi-l2i-se-integrated-amp-review-with-dac-a-magical-experience-awaits/
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Thanks Shahed for the pointer.
A truly fantastic review - When an amp makes you cry it must be special. :)
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I've never read such an enthusiastic review about any product: https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2019/12/07/hifi-review-vinnie-rossi-l2i-se-integrated-amp-review-with-dac-a-magical-experience-awaits/
Hi shahed,
You beat me to posting that review - thank you.
Our AZ dealer (Arizona HiFi in Phoenix) recently told us about it, and it was such a pleasant surprise because the we didn't even know it was in the works. Arizona HiFi let Steve Huff demo the L2i-SE in his home, and after a few days of listening he pulled the trigger on an order for one in black - and added that incredible review to his website:
https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/ (https://www.stevehuffphoto.com/)
This amp is no joke. When I first heard the cost of this amp I knew there was no way I would be able to ever acquire one. I also had no idea that it was as good as it actually is. I can say that after listening and listening and listening more now I have realized this integrated amp with DAC is well worth the asking price. It has muscle but also finesse. It pulls details yet does so with elegance and a human touch. It is an expensive amp but sounds every bit of that expense, and that is not always the case with high end audio. It’s an investment but only for those who keep their gear long term. This is not a piece you will buy, tire of in a year and sell. It is a lifetime piece IMO.
This amp took my 30 years of HiFi experience, threw it away and showed me what a well designed “cost no object” integrated amp could sound like. As good as I thought some of my previous systems were, this is next level, for me at least.
The DAC module in this amp (a $3500 extra) is also without question the best DAC I have heard, and yes, DACS sound very different from one another when you start to get into the high end ($2000 and up range). My experience with serious DAC’s range from a PS Audio Direct Stream to a Chord Qutest. The dac in the Rossi amp is much much better in my system.
I also see that he has a good amount of subscribers on his YouTube channel (Steve Huff Photo channel - as he mostly reviews cameras, but there are some videos about hifi as well):
https://www.youtube.com/user/stevehuff1969/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/stevehuff1969/videos)
A big thank you to Steve for his write up (and Arizona HiFi for allowing Steve to audition their L2i-SE floor model) - I'm really taken back by this one, in a good way! :o :singing: :notworthy:
Vinnie
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Hi Shahed,
Thank you for your link to a heartwarming and spot-on review by Steve Huff. His review has confirmed my impressions of Vinnie's L2i-SE with the L2 DAC. :hyper:
Hi Vinnie,
Congratulations to you on another rave review. I believe there will be more in the pipeline. You deserve all the accolades! :beer:
Terence
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Congratulations Vinnie on Steve's surprise review of your L2i-SE, having heard it in the Well Pleased room at the last 2 shows I can only agree with Steve that this integrated (or just the DHT pre) is a very special accomplishment especially conveying emotion and drawing you into the music allowing you to just enjoy the art.
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Got my L2iSE last night and spent the morning setting up and tweaking. Absolutely spooky soundstage. I did a double take and turned my head because it sounded like the sound was coming from behind me. I have never experienced that before. I'll elaborate tomorrow; kids are melting down right now and I don't want to lose my photo post :)
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beautiful turn back the clock look..congrats!!!
Now you have to get a TT !!
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Hey guys,
Thank you all very much!
MP - very nice pic with the Volti Rivals :drool:
beautiful turn back the clock look..congrats!!!
Now you have to get a TT !!
He has the L2 Phonostage installed, so it's ready to go! :wink:
Got my L2iSE last night and spent the morning setting up and tweaking. Absolutely spooky soundstage. I did a double take and turned my head because it sounded like the sound was coming from behind me. I have never experienced that before. I'll elaborate tomorrow; kids are melting down right now and I don't want to lose my photo post :)
The $1,000,000 question is: Are your kids LOUDER than the VR + Volti system?! :green:
Enjoy it!
Vinnie
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I have a turntable in there, under the part on the left, an Acoustic Signature WOW XXL with a Hana SH MC cart.
The Rivals are sounding their absolute best with the L2iSE, thanks very much! The kiddos wails may be impressive but I'm pretty sure I can drown them out! :)
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Great setup!
Are you able to speak more to the sonic upgrade from LIO to L2iSE? Considering the upgrade but it’s quite a financial stretch. Thanks for any thoughts you can share!
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A brief teaser video of the L2i-SE from Anthony Kershaw of Audiophilia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOUV_Ra2GL8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOUV_Ra2GL8)
:)
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A brief teaser video of the L2i-SE from Anthony Kershaw of Audiophilia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOUV_Ra2GL8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOUV_Ra2GL8)
:)
SWEET!
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Once upon a time I could afford Vinnie's gear, but not any more.
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Great setup!
Are you able to speak more to the sonic upgrade from LIO to L2iSE? Considering the upgrade but it’s quite a financial stretch. Thanks for any thoughts you can share!
My LIO (+) JA Perspectives was at the time one of the best systems I'd heard. Then I was ruined by hearing the Volti Rivals at the Tampa Audio Show. With the LIO, they sounded fantastic. With the L2iSE, they sound other-worldly. I too was hesitant to take the financial leap, but I've been a VR acolyte for quite some time, had admired the Red Wine Audio components but was at a point in my life where I couldn't afford them. The LIO was the first really nice piece of kit I ever bought, and I knew I wouldn't regret a cost-no-object product from Vinnie. It was 100% worth it. An absolutely stunning product, and just like finding my very old Martin guitar, I have finally gotten to end game gear. I won't be making any changes in the near future. Thanks again Vinnie for an insane product! :rock:
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Thanks @matthewpatrick for the helpful post!
Any other L2iSE upgrades out there who can provide their impressions of the upgrade? Thank you!
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Thanks @matthewpatrick for the helpful post!
Any other L2iSE upgrades out there who can provide their impressions of the upgrade? Thank you!
Happy New Year, everyone!
This was just posted to YouTube - I am very thankful to all of Steve's time and effort with this gorgeous video
of his L2i-SE:
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=203095&size=large)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4iuQzJsQwI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4iuQzJsQwI)
:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
Vinnie
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The DHT preamplifier stage in the L2i-SE is very similar in design to the one used in the L2 Signature Preamplifier, but not exactly the same.
The L2 Signature Preamplifier offers the lowest possible background noise, as it does not contain the L2i-SE's two additional power supplies for the dual-mono speaker output stages.
Vinnie
Hi Vinnie,
Does it mean that L2i-SE can reach a same lowest noise level when used in preamp mode by switching off the power stage and related supply units inside (AMP off)?
I want to extend my home setup by adding L2i-SE and using it for two possible options:
1. L2iSE as a preamp to drive my current Ayon Crossfire PA (eq. full tube mode).
2. L2iSE as an integrated amp to drive my speakers (native hybrid mode).
Thx, Alex
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Also, it may be interesting for me to test both gears (L2i-SE and Ayon CF PA) for bi-amping my speakers ;)
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I thought the Dynaudio Special 40's sounded pretty bad with my Lio Integrated. Guess a 15k upgrade was all I needed..lol
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Hi Vinnie,
Does it mean that L2i-SE can reach a same lowest noise level when used in preamp mode by switching off the power stage and related supply units inside (AMP off)?
Hi Alex,
It will be close, but not 100% of the L2 Signature Preamp. Why? Because when the AMP button is switched OFF in the L2i / L2i-SE, this is only
disabling the current output stage of the L and R power amplifiers (essentially, grounding out the gates of the current output stage mosfets) so they
do not amplify the signal. But the power amplifiers' power supplies are still receiving power / kept warmed up. This way, there are no added
switches in the signal path or power path, which eliminates the influence of any added parts in the signal/power path and maximizes reliability (e.g. one less switch that can eventually fail years from now).
Having said that, since much less current would be flowing through the power supply for the power amplifiers when they are disabled (they are not driving speakers when disabled), the noise from their power supplies will be minimal, and the L2i-SE makes for sensational preamplifier via its single-ended or balanced preamp outputs.
The L2i-SE gives you the most bang for your buck compared to the L2 Signature Preamplifier, but *IF* you were *ONLY* going to be using it as a preamplifier, the L2 Sig Preamp would still be my 1st choice. Since you want to use it as both a preamp *AND* an integrated amp, the L2i-SE makes the most sense.
I hope this clarifies things.
Also, it may be interesting for me to test both gears (L2i-SE and Ayon CF PA) for bi-amping my speakers ;)
If you were to do this, you'd want the gain of the L2i-SE be set when we build it to match that of the Ayon CF PA. Otherwise, the unit
with the higher gain will dominate the freq. range it is connected to. For example, if the Ayon has higher gain and you use it for the tweeters
when bi-amping your speakers, the treble is going to be boosted and could dominate (and vice versa)...
You can also use the L2i-SE in a bi-amp system with the L2 Signature Monoblocks! :drool:
It's only money, after all... :thumb:
I thought the Dynaudio Special 40's sounded pretty bad with my Lio Integrated. Guess a 15k upgrade was all I needed..lol
Hi Gene,
Lol - It's a totally different story with the L2i or L2i-SE running the show. I really don't know how any speaker can sound bad with them, unless
the speaker used (and/or the room they are used in) have fairly substantial issues going on. :o
Best regards,
Vinnie
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Hi Vinnie,
Thank you for the answer... Have you ever tried to source the L2i-SE from the Aurender A30 (from either analogue outputs to L2i-SE or from USB towards VR DAC-2)?
A30 houses the same DAC chipset 2xAK4497 (dual mono) like used in the VR DAC-2, so I would really be interested to compare them for SQ.
I see you mainly use Innuos as a digital source in your demos... Are any other recommendations from you for streaming options to the combination L2i-SE + DAC-2?
Thx, Alex
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Hi Vinnie,
Thank you for the answer... Have you ever tried to source the L2i-SE from the Aurender A30 (from either analogue outputs to L2i-SE or from USB towards VR DAC-2)?
A30 houses the same DAC chipset 2xAK4497 (dual mono) like used in the VR DAC-2, so I would really be interested to compare them for SQ.
I see you mainly use Innuos as a digital source in your demos... Are any other recommendations from you for streaming options to the combination L2i-SE + DAC-2?
Thx, Alex
Hi Alex,
I haven't used the Aurender A30. There are so many streaming options available now and I haven't had time to test them all. I have direct experience with the Innuos line and they are very impressive units, but I cannot say how they compare to others without doing the direct comparison in my system.
A30 houses the same DAC chipset 2xAK4497 (dual mono) like used in the VR DAC-2, so I would really be interested to compare them for SQ.
Good question - the d/a chip(s) are only a part of the much larger equation, so it is hard to know how they compare.
Best regards,
Vinnie
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Hi!
I received my L2 i standard version with 6SN7 tubes around a month ago. I told Vinnie that I would come back with
a short write up on the forum once it settled a bit. And while I received about the same time the new etherRegen it has
perhaps taken a bit longer to hear it settle proparly. So much so I could make a more stable opinion of it.
It replaced a LIO with AVC/tubestage and L2 DAC was already there. The dac was then transfered to the new L2 amp.
A really well built and heavy fine piece of amplifier was present under all protection and packing material. Its not easy to unpack
and handle alone but I got help from my son.
As I initially wrote to Vinnie . It sounded actually better than the LIO ever did and that almost from cold. I always find the burn in process a bit strange. Often when opening and trialing a new electronic item it sounds quite ok the first few hours and then the rollercoaster ride begins with ups and downs for a long time. Vinnie told me to hold on for at least 100 hrs and then I will fall in love with it. I think It needed alot more hours than that. I have been counting weeks instead of hours.
Its a very solid and stable product in both its appearance and sound. The fundament in the low end is now more easy to hear and all dynamics and transients are ther to make a more speedy bass presentation than ever the LIO did. This can also be translated to all mid and top too. Everything is more clear, life like and dynamics. But above all its so musical that one can listen all day long without turning it off. You just listen to lyrics easier, you hear details and layers that was hard to hear before.
I have not played that loud but It can handle higher levels now. My standsmounts with 85db is more happy now I guess with a lot more power in store.
Look forward to have this musical instrument for a long time in my system.
My system is all streaming.
Source is a Roon server from Innuos mini Mk3 to Antipodes EX Roon player.
EtherRegen
Powersupplies from Sean Jacobs UK
Cables all around from Audiosensibility
Thank you Vinnie!!
/Magnus
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Hi Magnus,
Thanks for the write up on the impressions of the L2i and how it compares to LIO (AVC/Tubestage with L2 DAC).
Terence
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Hi Magnus,
Thank you for posting your impressions of the L2i 8)
>>Look forward to have this musical instrument for a long time in my system.
It will serve you very well for many years to come, and at some point, you might want to try a higher-end pair of
6SN7's (and fortunately, they are not nearly as expensive as the high-end DHTs). I'm still playing with various pairs, and
then I hope to post some recommendations.
I'm very happy to read that you are enjoying your L2i :singing: - thanks again,
Vinnie
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Yes, rolling 6SN7 tubes could be fun and relatively inexpensive.
Vinnie, please share eventually when your trials are over :)
Regards Magnus
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Been enjoying my new L2 integrated for a few days now. Even at first power-up, you could hear that it was something special. I could bore you with a lengthy writeup about the sound, but I wont. Instead, I just want to say that the customer support from Vinnie has been amazing--as we worked out the logistics of trade-in, shipping to/from Japan, and a lot of really basic newbie questions from me. When you factor in the customer service, warrantee, build quality, sound, looks: its a no brainer!
As I said before...customer for life. I am sure I will spring the monoblocks down the road.
p.s I am using the stock tubes that came with the integrated. Any suggestions out there on next level up for tubes? (I see a of pictures with the tubes actually sticking up out of the unit. Is that because the model is the Signature model, or is there a larger, better sounding tube? )
Cheers,
Willy L.
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Congrats WillyL! And I concur about Vinnie’s customer service. When I had my trial period with the L2 Signature preamp, he helped with a couple synergy and set-up issues I though I was having, as well as sending me another set of cables to try. And yes, I did end up purchasing the L2 preamp.
As far as your unit.... Is it the 6SN7 version or DHT version? Direct Heated Triode tubes are much bigger (and much more expensive) than 6sn7 tubes.
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Been enjoying my new L2 integrated for a few days now. Even at first power-up, you could hear that it was something special. I could bore you with a lengthy writeup about the sound, but I wont. Instead, I just want to say that the customer support from Vinnie has been amazing--as we worked out the logistics of trade-in, shipping to/from Japan, and a lot of really basic newbie questions from me. When you factor in the customer service, warrantee, build quality, sound, looks: its a no brainer!
As I said before...customer for life. I am sure I will spring the monoblocks down the road.
p.s I am using the stock tubes that came with the integrated. Any suggestions out there on next level up for tubes? (I see a of pictures with the tubes actually sticking up out of the unit. Is that because the model is the Signature model, or is there a larger, better sounding tube? )
Cheers,
Willy L.
Hi Willy L,
Thanks for your post - and I'm very happy to hear that you are enjoying your L2i right out of the box! Your unit is the L2i, which uses the smaller 6SN7s (8-pin tubes). The L2i-SE uses the larger (taller)
directly heated triodes that you are referring to.
And thank you for your feedback (and jriggy's) regarding my customer service. :notworthy:
Happy listening!
Vinnie
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The L2 getting better after just a few listens. The sound is really smoothing out. Is it the amp or DAC? Not sure, but enjoying this hour by hour improvement.
Last night John Coltrane Ballads SACD was pretty much the closest to LIVE I have ever heard (and if any of you remember me from the beginnings of this board, when I used to post much more under a different name, I had much more expensive gear)
Anyway. Well done!
(About the tubes...Yes. I did not want to fuss too much with tubes in reality...)
:)
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Congrats WillyL
I also have the L2i version and I am very happy with it.
Regarding replacement tubes I wonder if maybe Vinnie has tried Psvane tubes :)
https://www.tubeampdoctor.com/en/psvane-cv181-t-mii/2/6sn7gt-matched-pair
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A quick impression from me after about 12 hrs on the burn in for the L2-SE integrated (with DAC 2.0). I had the LIO DHT previously (also with DAC 2.0) and tbh I was surprised that I could hear the improvements over the LIO very quickly. The LIO was the best component I have owned (and I've owned a fair few). I'd describe the sound signature as typically Vinnie (very musical and involving), my best analogy for the L2 is to a better pair of bino's. You can see further into the music with improved clarity compared to the LIO. I can also hear improved tone on instruments. Its a similar sound, but more of it.
The hype is true, this is a seriously impressive piece of kit.
I'm using Tak 300B's and speakers are refurb'd Tanny Corner Yorks (oversized cabs). Loving the Floyd...
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Hi Everyone,
Does anyone has a pair of WE 300Bs from Rossville in their L2i-SE? Care to post your impressions of them in L2i-SE? :drool:
Terence
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All,
I apologize for the delayed response - these continue to be very busy days for me and I don't have nearly as much time to post on the forum as I'd like (but I still do my very best to
respond to emails within 24 hours! :angel:)
The hype is true, this is a seriously impressive piece of kit.
I'm using Tak 300B's and speakers are refurb'd Tanny Corner Yorks (oversized cabs). Loving the Floyd...
Thank you for posting initial impressions, Steve! And I love the "piece of kit" saying :green:
Regarding replacement tubes I wonder if maybe Vinnie has tried Psvane tubes :)
https://www.tubeampdoctor.com/en/psvane-cv181-t-mii/2/6sn7gt-matched-pair
Hi Magnuska,
No, I have not tried them yet. However, Marc Phillips of Part-Time Audiophile is wrapping up his review of the L2i and is using these 6SN7 replacement tubes in it:
https://www.thetubestore.com/shuguang-natural-sound-cv181-t (https://www.thetubestore.com/shuguang-natural-sound-cv181-t)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=205538&size=small)
I am not sure how they compare to the Psvane CV181-T?
Does anyone has a pair of WE 300Bs from Rossville in their L2i-SE? Care to post your impressions of them in L2i-SE? :drool:
Hi Terence,
Are you referring to the new production WE300Bs? Last I heard is that they still have not shipped yet. I hope the wait is over soon, because I really enjoy my pair of WE-300Bs from 2006 and can't wait to hear the new Rossville factory version! I just don't want to order until they are actually shipping them. :wink:
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Upcoming Reviews
1) L2i by Marc Phillips of Part-Time Audiophile.com (not sure when it will go live, but most likely within a month)
2) L2i-SE by Anthony Kershaw of Audiophilia.com (I was told that review is planned to go live next Friday!)
3) L2i-SE by Matthew Clott of The Absolute Sound (Review will hopefully will be in the next issue!)
4) L2i-SE by David Robinson of Positive Feedback Online (Spring 2020)
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You are invited to attend AXPONA with a 10% Discount on any Three-Day tickets. Simply visit https://www.axpona.com/ (https://www.axpona.com/) and use VIP Code AP13XN when registering.
(And yes, I am aware of the coronavirus - but AXPONA reiterated today that the show will continue as planned)
Stay healthy, everyone!
Vinnie
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Are you referring to the new production WE300Bs? Last I heard is that they still have not shipped yet. I hope the wait is over soon, because I really enjoy my pair of WE-300Bs from 2006 and can't wait to hear the new Rossville factory version! I just don't want to order until they are actually shipping them. :wink:
Hi Vinnie,
Thanks for your post. Yes, I'm referring to the new production of WE300Bs from Rossville. Likewise, I share your sentiments not to order until they have started shipping them worldwide. :hyper:
Terence
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I recently upgraded from the LIO DHT w/DAC 2.0 to the L2i-SE w/DAC 2.0. I agree with the comments that the L2i-SE is a definite step up from the LIO. I haven't put that many hours on the L2i yet but love what I hear already.
Vinnie: One question. If I connect a headphone amp using the pre-amp outputs, is there anything I should be aware of?
Thanks,
Doug
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Hi Doug,
I agree with the comments that the L2i-SE is a definite step up from the LIO. I haven't put that many hours on the L2i yet but love what I hear already.
8) :) :thumb: :singing:
If I connect a headphone amp using the pre-amp outputs, is there anything I should be aware of?
I recommend you set the volume control on your headphone amp to a setting that gives you enough "range" from the L2i-SE's volume control, as you will want to use
the L2i-SE's volume control when listening.
In other words, if you max out the volume control on your headphone amp and then find that the L2i-SE's volume control gets too loud too quickly, then you can
reduce the volume setting of the headphone amp accordingly. This is' kinda' like reducing the gain of the headphone amp, in a way.
Also make sure you have the speaker outputs of the L2i-SE switched OFF when using it as a preamp into your headphone amp (set "AMP" button on front panel
so the red LED next to it is not illuminated).
Finally - depending on the headphones used, you might want to try going with that Moon Audio adapter cable that I mentioned earlier and seeing you prefer using
the L2i-SE to directly drive your headphones. :wink:
Enjoy it!
Vinnie
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~ Audiophilia has just posted their review of the L2i-SE ~
https://www.audiophilia.com/reviews/2019/12/27/hj2zytau8x44xp6xkvu18f59excd9k (https://www.audiophilia.com/reviews/2019/12/27/hj2zytau8x44xp6xkvu18f59excd9k)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=205855)
For sure, it’s an easy visual winner in all of Rossi’s categories. Just look at it. But the sound it produces is very special. And some of the most musically inviting, transparent, sweet and diaphanous sound I’ve had the pleasure of hearing in my music room.
Happily, I can attest the L2i-SE is a masterpiece component.
Pair the L2i-SE with good cables and your favorite quality loudspeaker and you’ll be set for the final path of your audiophile journey. No compromises, no buyer’s remorse... In four months as the mover & shaker in my system, it astounded me daily with its musical ability. By its nature, the SE will give you a lifetime of musical pleasure. Very highly recommended.
:dance:
Many thanks to Anthony / Audiophilia.com! :notworthy:
Vinnie
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Congrats Vinnie on the Audiophilia review! Question for you (or anyone who knows). How is the DHT bypass mode enacted?
Thanks,
Doug
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Vinnie,
Congratulations on the superb review on your "Statement / Lifetime" component! ... but tell me something that I didn't already know?!! Living with your L2i-SE at two recent audio shows (CAF & the NYAS) with you, it was so "obvious" to my ears (and so many others) on how great the L2-SE is!!!
Congrats once again... Really well deserved!
Cheers,
Pete
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at 25k it better sound good.....
how about something more affordable..like an update..for LIO owners
or are we abandoned like Lexicon, B&K, etc did..support only or take out a mortgage.
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Congrats Vinnie on the Audiophilia review! Question for you (or anyone who knows). How is the DHT bypass mode enacted?
Thanks,
Doug
Hi Doug,
Thank you!
Next to each tube socket on the motherboard is a mini toggle switch. With the toggles pointing to the left side, the tubes are enabled. With the toggles pointing
to the right side, the tubes are bypassed. Before you try doing this, the unit needs to be turned OFF (and the tubes removed). Also keep in mind that you will
lose about 8dB of gain without the tubes.
Congrats once again... Really well deserved!
Thank you, Pete!
or are we abandoned like Lexicon, B&K, etc did..support only or take out a mortgage.
Hi gene9p,
This is an "L2 Integrated Impressions" thread, not a thread to complain about L2 pricing or to ask questions about LIO.
You can always feel free to email or call me to discuss this directly, ok?
Thank you,
Vinnie
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at 25k it better sound good.....
how about something more affordable..like an update..for LIO owners
or are we abandoned like Lexicon, B&K, etc did..support only or take out a mortgage.
Vinnie’s support of the Lio and his previous customers has always been top notch. Contact him before you complain, he can probably work something out with you. Cudos to Vinnie for continuing to push the envelope at any price, you wont find much better.
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Vinnie’s support of the Lio and his previous customers has always been top notch.
Hi Krustykat,
Likewise, I can attest to Vinnie's impeccable customer service which is second to none. :beer:
how about something more affordable..like an update..for LIO owners
Hi Gene9p,
Have you considered the DAC 2.0 and LIO DHT routes for your LIO integrated? I believe the L2i-SE's sound quality has retained the LIO DHT's sonic flavour of musicality and smoothness. Maybe Vinnie can work out something for you.
Terence
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I have the Dac one, but have a great external Dac from Bryston, I considered the DHT but it won't fit into my rack...ugh. I would have loved to upgrade to that and that was an option offered by Vinnie. I added the amp module also and some extra inputs too. I am not knocking Vinnie, no way what so ever. Having a Manley Chinook eliminates the idea of the phono stage. I tube roll that works wonders with different speakers, even lp playback.Did I mention I even sent my LIO in for a color change from silver to black..lol.It's been very quiet here lately so I apologize for my impatience. We need more participation and finding a way to get LIO owners more involved might help.
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I considered the DHT but it won't fit into my rack...ugh.
Perhaps a rack upgrade as your next investment???:D The DHT and DAC 2.0 upgrades are what make the LIO a premium component and should be considered as upgrade paths. But I also understand your concern for future upgrades for a platform that is modular and is now considered "obsolete"?
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I just bought and built a new rack recently but the tubes would hit the top. There is quite a bit of space between shelves and no way to expand the space with say a long and short pole as they are all one size except the footer but that has a round bottom.Very disappointing as a DHT upgrade has had me drooling since day one.
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i might be late on this - but i just saw that "the absolute sound" is reviewing the L2i se integrated in next month's edition
cant wait!
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i might be late on this - but i just saw that "the absolute sound" is reviewing the L2i se integrated in next month's edition
cant wait!
Hi Smargo,
Thank you, and yes, I mentioned this a few posts above and I am also looking forward to it (along with the other reviews in the works)! :hyper:
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Hi Terence and krustykat,
Thank you for your posts to try to help gene9p.
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All,
Moving forward, can we please try to keep this thread focused on the L2i and L2i-SE?
Many thanks again,
Vinnie
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Vinnie,
Congrats on the favorable review in the Absolute Sound! Got mine in the mail on Monday.
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Vinnie,
Congrats on the favorable review in the Absolute Sound! Got mine in the mail on Monday.
Thank you, Yamaha!
I haven't even seen the new TAS issue yet. I have a digital subscription, and they haven't uploaded the latest issue yet. Hopefully soon!
Vinnie
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I read the review this afternoon. Nice! I’m confused though - doesn’t the DAC module support DSD 512? I have the DAC 2.0 in my LIO and I play some albums that are DSD 512. Though I only have a few albums in that format.
I plan on doing up sampling in the future, but I need to upgrade my Sonic Transporter. My current model chokes using HQ Player at more than 128 feeding Roon, and is only able to get to 256 with Roon upsampling.
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I finally got my copy!
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=207990&size=small)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=207989&size=small)
The Absolute Sound, May 2020 Issue 8)
“… the L2i-SE was a performance of passion, gestalt, and simplicity”
“The sweet sensuality of the 300B remained with added layers of
transparency and low-end extension, and highs flying a bit higher in the clouds.”
“To be honest, I have heard more expensive monoblocks that would have
been jealous. The midrange was luscious when it was supposed to be, and laid-back
when so directed. Those overused terms “fun” and “engaging” popped into my
brain several times. Highs were eloquently presented and never overwhelming, with
an immediacy and clarity that allowed the overall presentation to flow completely
unimpeded, like the waters of Niagara. I have no negative comments to make; it is
that simple.”
“…in its price class I believe it’s an apex predator. I struggled to pull
myself away from every listening session, and was frequently overwhelmed by the
emotion and majesty it had the capacity to convey.”
Thank you to Matt Clott and the TAS team - this is a tremendous honor!
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I read the review this afternoon. Nice! I’m confused though - doesn’t the DAC module support DSD 512? I have the DAC 2.0 in my LIO and I play some albums that are DSD 512. Though I only have a few albums in that format.
I plan on doing up sampling in the future, but I need to upgrade my Sonic Transporter. My current model chokes using HQ Player at more than 128 feeding Roon, and is only able to get to 256 with Roon upsampling.
Hi Kris,
Yes, DSD 512 and PCM 786kHz are both supported if your digital source supports them. There isn't much music at these insanely high resolutions, but you can play with sample rate conversion in some systems (e.g. Roon sample rate conversion). When doing so, I have been more than happy with DSD256 - but you know, the bigger the number... :wink:
Vinnie
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Great review and well deserved.
charles
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Hi Vinnie,
I am exciting to receive the new L2i Signature Integrated soon :hyper:
An
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Great review and well deserved.
charles
Thank you, Rollo!
Hi Vinnie,
I am exciting to receive the new L2i Signature Integrated soon :hyper:
An
Hi An,
I look forward to hearing from you once you have it running!
Vinnie
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Vinnie,
I am now in possession of the L2i SE integrated and all I could say is wow...extremely musical from the first note and one of a very few beautiful looking Integrated amplifier on the market. This is an end game amplifier IMO for both sonically and visually! :inlove:
An
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...extremely musical from the first note and one of a very few beautiful looking Integrated amplifier on the market. This is an end game amplifier IMO for both sonically and visually! :inlove:
Hi An,
Very well said and I fully agreed. Please beware that when your L2i-SE is burnt-in you will be smiling all over. :eyebrows:
Terence
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Hello Terence,
Without much burning in on the L2i, I have already swapping between three different 300B tubes including Takatsuki, Psvane Acme, Elrog and all three members have tremendously impacted the musicality of the integrated. Although the EH stock tubes are great but invested in the top quality tubes from above will definitely make one even happier with the L2i SE...IMO at least another 20% improvement :angel:
An
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Hello Terence,
Without much burning in on the L2i, I have already swapping between three different 300B tubes including Takatsuki, Psvane Acme, Elrog and all three members have tremendously impacted the musicality of the integrated. Although the EH stock tubes are great but invested in the top quality tubes from above will definitely make one even happier with the L2i SE...IMO at least another 20% improvement :angel:
An
When you feel comfortable enough with knowing, could you describe some differences between the TAK’s and the Elrog’s??
Thanks
Jason
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Hi Jason,
I am sure Vinnie would be the best man who could inform us the differences between these two 300B tubes since the designer has listened with these tubes numerous of times in the L2i SE Integrated. For me the Takatsuki and Elrog have totally different sounding characteristics and both are quite unique at this caliber. The Tak has the best possible level of transparency with more intimate feeling while the Elrog is just a little warmer and has more weights in the whole presentation...Different listeners will appreciate differently between the two tubes...system synergy is a must!
An
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Hi An,
This is an end game amplifier IMO for both sonically and visually! :inlove:
Thank you - I'm glad it is doing exactly as intended! :singing: 8)
I am sure Vinnie would be the best man who could inform us the differences between these two 300B tubes since the designer has listened with these tubes numerous of times in the L2i SE Integrated. For me the Takatsuki and Elrog have totally different sounding characteristics and both are quite unique at this caliber. The Tak has the best possible level of transparency with more intimate feeling while the Elrog is just a little warmer and has more weights in the whole presentation...Different listeners will appreciate differently between the two tubes...system synergy is a must!
Hi An and Jason,
I agree with An. The TAK TA-300B is the most transparent of the DHT's that I've used in the L2 Preamp / L2i-SE. It unravels all the fine nuances in the music with remarkable speed and clarity. I wouldn't call it a "warm" sounding tube (although it is never bright, or boring / sterile sounding).
I find the Elrog 300B to be warmer overall, and a bit more laid-back in how they handle transients in the music. The bass is more weighty (but still not a strong in the bass as something like a KR PX-4).
I believe the gain with the Elrog 300B is around 2dB lower as well. In a brighter and/or leaner sounding system, the Elrog 300B would probably be preferred over the TAK TA300B.
As An mentioned above, the "best" triode really comes down to system synergy.
Some of my favorites (in no particular order) have been:
Western Electric WE-300B
Takutsuki TA-300B
KR Audio T-100 (similar sounding to the PX4, but more top-end extension and openness)
Some of my "second favorites" have been:
Elrog 300B
KR PX4
Svetlana SV811-10 (specifically when I want warmer, richer, and bass-heavier sound with rock, or with bright and poorly mastered recordings)
Vinnie
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Hi Vinnie,
Again the same phrase has popped up in my mind, Western Electric WE-300B. Any news of the reissue Western Electric WE 300B from Rossville shipping out?
Or anyone has gotten them in your possession? Always so curious to know how the Rossville's WE 300B compares to the Takatsuki 300B in the L2i-SE? :duh:
Terence
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Hi Vinnie,
Again the same phrase has popped up in my mind, Western Electric WE-300B. Any news of the reissue Western Electric WE 300B from Rossville shipping out?
Or anyone has gotten them in your possession? Always so curious to know how the Rossville's WE 300B compares to the Takatsuki 300B in the L2i-SE? :duh:
Terence
Hi Terence,
They continue to say "coming soon" - but they have been saying that for a while now. I'm not sure when they will actually start shipping. If I hear about it, I'll be
sure to update you.
Vinnie
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Vinnie,
Go to SET Asylum. Check out the thread ( The end of the world? ) Read the posts by Gerry E. I believe he received the first WE 300B shipped.
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I'm not sure when they will actually start shipping. If I hear about it, I'll be
sure to update you.
Vinnie
Thank you so much.
Terence
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Vinnie,
Go to SET Asylum. Check out the thread ( The end of the world? ) Read the posts by Gerry E. I believe he received the first WE 300B shipped.
Hi Coldfogey,
I believe this is the link: https://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/vt.mpl?f=set&m=85466
Thanks.
Terence
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All,
The first review of the L2i Integrated Amp (non-SE version) by Marc Phillips of Part-Time Audiophile.com, is live! 8)
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=209549)
https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2020/05/24/vinnie-rossi-l2i-integrated-amplifier-review/ (https://parttimeaudiophile.com/2020/05/24/vinnie-rossi-l2i-integrated-amplifier-review/)
I had the Vinnie Rossi L2i integrated amplifier in my system for many months, and I listened to hundreds of LPs during that time. I can’t pick out two or three that stood out. I can tell you that this was one of the most rewarding periods of my life as an audiophile. It’s all a happy, satisfying blur.
Highly recommended, and an Editor’s Choice Award winner.
Thank you, Marc!!! :notworthy:
Vinnie
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beautiful turn back the clock look..congrats!!!
Now you have to get a TT !!
Finally getting around to this, sorry!
(https://i.imgur.com/1j0vxp3.jpg?1)
I've had this for about six months now, and it has been incredibly busy for me at work, and I have been gently easing into listening and breaking in the new speakers, as well as some tube rolling. Since it arrived, I have stuck with the stock tubes so I can get a baseline idea of what the unit sounds like. Like Vinnie, I really like the Svetlanas for rock. I also will be trying out the Tak 300Bs soon.
For all who have had the pleasure of listening to the LIO and L2, you know what I'm talking about when I say that this is the most incredible listening experience I've had in my own home. The soundstage is absolutely holographic. I am so pleased with how the unit works with my Volti Rivals. I feel like I'm at end game right now, and cannot foresee changing anything in the near or distant future. It's absolutely perfect for me.
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Congrats to Vinnie on the Positive review in the July issue of HiFi News magazine, review by Ken Kessler. You have managed to impress an icon ! (not easy). He said he'd buy one if he ever needed another amp !
Still loving the L2ISE with my Tannoys :D
Cheers
Steve
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I've had this for about six months now, and it has been incredibly busy for me at work, and I have been gently easing into listening and breaking in the new speakers, as well as some tube rolling. Since it arrived, I have stuck with the stock tubes so I can get a baseline idea of what the unit sounds like. Like Vinnie, I really like the Svetlanas for rock. I also will be trying out the Tak 300Bs soon.
For all who have had the pleasure of listening to the LIO and L2, you know what I'm talking about when I say that this is the most incredible listening experience I've had in my own home. The soundstage is absolutely holographic. I am so pleased with how the unit works with my Volti Rivals. I feel like I'm at end game right now, and cannot foresee changing anything in the near or distant future. It's absolutely perfect for me.
Hi MP,
THANK YOU for posting impressions of your L2i-SE with your Volti Rivals. Very happy to hear how much you are enjoying it! 8)
Congrats to Vinnie on the Positive review in the July issue of HiFi News magazine, review by Ken Kessler. You have managed to impress an icon ! (not easy). He said he'd buy one if he ever needed another amp !
Still loving the L2ISE with my Tannoys :D
Hi Steve,
THANK YOU! :dance:
(https://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=210215)
We are absolutely thrilled to learn that Ken Kessler and Paul Miller of Hi-Fi News have given the L2i-SE their top award!
“…if I needed a new amp, I’d be splashing out on a Vinnie Rossi L2i-SE because I simply adore it. The build, ergonomics and features leave nothing to be desired, and it was a joy to use the entire time it was in my system. I even loved just staring at it! But forget all that. Ultimately, this is about sound. And it was ‘Bellissima’..."
A tremendous ‘thank you’ to Hi-Fi News and to our UK distributor, Elite Audio!
Vinnie
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Tonight I'm listening to David Crosby's "Woodstock" from his last album "here if you listen." It is earth shattering. Croz sounds better than he ever did prior to his sobriety. Check it out, you won't be disappointed.
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I'm very interested in the L2i-SE and I would like to audition. Anyone aware of one within a couple hours of Cincinnati? It appears the closest dealer is in Chicago area at least 5 hours away. Thanks
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I just wanted to say that I thought using the XLR outputs to power headphones was a 'better than nothing' workaround to the level that I bought a generic adapter cable because I wasn't sure it would work for me. After I got my LIO and Spatials, I sold all my headphone gear. Then missed it so I bought new LCD-3's which probably hadn't been on my head a total of 5 minutes since I bought them 3ish+ years ago.
Using a duel 3-pin to 4-pin xlr cable to balanced headphones from the L2i is no joke, it works great! I've done quite a bit of headphone listening lately.
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Just another satisfied owner of an L2i-SE chiming in....
I was an early adopter of the LIO and loved it. I upgraded to the DHT Pre and loved it more. But the L2i-SE is a huge sonic step forward. As I plugged in speakers that I have logged countless hours with and know extremely well (the 40th anniversary Harbeth P3esrs) it was like I had different (and much better) speakers--so many more layers and textures in the music. The cliche --hearing things in recordings I had not heard before--is in this case very true.
Other parts of the system will come and go. But this amp is for life.
-Margot
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Other parts of the system will come and go. But this amp is for life.
Using a duel 3-pin to 4-pin xlr cable to balanced headphones from the L2i is no joke, it works great! I've done quite a bit of headphone listening lately.
Hi tme110 and mcanaday,
Thank you for your posts, and I'm very happy to hear how you both (and many others) are enjoying your L2i / L2i-SE Integrateds!
Happy listening,
Vinnie
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Congratulations Vinnie on making a universally lusted after superb sounding integrated that just continues to garner accolades from owners and reviewers alike. I was anticipating sitting down for a long after-hours session with your L2iSE and the new QLN Prestige 5s but that will have to wait, bummer.
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Congratulations Vinnie on making a universally lusted after superb sounding integrated that just continues to garner accolades from owners and reviewers alike. I was anticipating sitting down for a long after-hours session with your L2iSE and the new QLN Prestige 5s but that will have to wait, bummer.
Hi KLH007,
Thank you - and hopefully you will get that listening session with the L2i-SE + QLN P5 combo in the not-too-distant future! :singing:
Vinnie
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Hi Terence,
They continue to say "coming soon" - but they have been saying that for a while now. I'm not sure when they will actually start shipping. If I hear about it, I'll be
sure to update you.
Vinnie
I got an email from them last week saying "super soon" or something to that effect. They've been delayed due to covid as well.
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I got an email from them last week saying "super soon" or something to that effect. They've been delayed due to covid as well.
I have also received an email from Western Electric that they have dispatched their 1st batch of WE300Bs to pre-order customers before the Covid-19 crisis. Any LIO or L2i/L2i-SE owners who are the 1st batch to receive your tubes and kind enough to share your views. :drool:
Terence