here is a guy who knows nothing about me and listens to me go on about a 7.1system all of which started with "WORD OF MOUTH" and the purchase of a used HT-3. I then purchased a used set o MONO-X/S.E.'s and also almost a set of regular Mono's untill Klaus had enough,seen that i was seriously going to build a 7.1 system out of Odyssey amps,as i said,so he says that i should own something special and better i might add than another USED set of amps,so he talked me into ordering a set of NEW MONO-X/SE,s for my mains.....excellent man to talk to,.....wesite,,who cares,its personal with him!!