Amplifier Clipping

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werd

Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #40 on: 10 Jun 2010, 02:56 am »

Napalm

Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #41 on: 10 Jun 2010, 03:24 am »
that looks shopped

It isn't:



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Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #42 on: 10 Jun 2010, 04:54 am »
What's a mod like that cost?   Do i just go to modwright?

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Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #43 on: 10 Jun 2010, 08:26 pm »


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Yawn...

I have two or three of these things crawl out of my wife's PT Cruiser every week. Actually, they are not to hard to kill - but the garbage guy is starting to complain about the pile of them on the curb on garbage day.

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Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #44 on: 10 Jun 2010, 10:26 pm »
This is where an exceptionally clean output from your amplifier and careful use of the volume control should negate this. If I ever "do" cook a driver, I am sure my audio guys can set me up with a non Mexican/Chinese substitute or a new complete speaker. Or I could look for new speakers made by someone else.

Ok, sounds good. I'm guessing your speakers are pretty robust, so it would take a lot of volume to blow a driver. Hell, I've had my low-end JBLs at full blast, and no blown drivers.

But, would it be so bad if you do blow a driver to have a Mexican-made driver? I mean it wouldn't be the end of the world, and you wouldn't have to get rid of the speakers...

Napalm

Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #45 on: 10 Jun 2010, 10:31 pm »
But, would it be so bad if you do blow a driver to have a Mexican-made driver?

Mhhh.... it might get a mind of its own and sing a different song than the other drivers...

La cucaracha, la cucaracha,
ya no puede caminar
porque no tiene, porque le falta
marihuana pa' fumar.


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Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #46 on: 10 Jun 2010, 10:32 pm »
 :lol:

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Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #47 on: 10 Jun 2010, 11:37 pm »
Mhhh.... it might get a mind of its own and sing a different song than the other drivers...

La cucaracha, la cucaracha,
ya no puede caminar
porque no tiene, porque le falta
marihuana pa' fumar.


Nap.   :D

AYE CARAMBA!

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Napalm

Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #48 on: 11 Jun 2010, 12:03 am »
AYE CARAMBA!

Mexican tweeters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qzlhAtAai0&feature=related

This should fix vegasdave's lust for horns  :lol:

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Laundrew

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Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #49 on: 11 Jun 2010, 12:44 am »
Ok, sounds good. I'm guessing your speakers are pretty robust, so it would take a lot of volume to blow a driver. Hell, I've had my low-end JBLs at full blast, and no blown drivers.

But, would it be so bad if you do blow a driver to have a Mexican-made driver? I mean it wouldn't be the end of the world, and you wouldn't have to get rid of the speakers...

I have always suspected that it was not an issue of the speakers handling the amplifier, but the amplifier handling the speakers.

Case-in-point….

A while ago, I had a Sony receiver and it was rated for 100 watts @ 8 ohms. To this day, I believe that this amplifier had a very dirty, distorted output and that it had an extremely poor capacity to properly supply the speakers with the energy they required. It was very hard on speakers and you could actually hear the audio begin to “fall apart” when you increased the volume level.

Distortion and clipping will kill an inexpensive speaker as quickly as an expensive counterpart.

A feature I noticed about my Bryston amplifiers, albeit not right away, was the tremendous SPLs that filled the room and I did not even notice it. The reason for this, was that the audio signal to the speakers was very clean and the amplifiers had ample energy reserves required by the speakers. I still remember thinking that this gear could hurt you if you were not careful. Not taking anything away from the JBL 1400’s, but they are built like tanks from the ground up - I am still impressed with the 4 inch coil on the LF and for me, compression driven horns are my nirvana.

I believe the way to go is to get the highest powered, quality amplifier that you can find. This is not to shake the walls down, but to enjoy “all” of the music at very low SPLs. My 28B’s are rated for a little over 1.2 Kilo-Watts (my vanity peeks through once again as I like writing the power output this way) and combined with the 1400’s, they give me everything I want in my music. I am currently listening to Abney Park’s acoustic version of “Breathe” - it is beautiful and all of the detail is there from a pair of behemoths.

As for North American companies moving production to Chinese/Mexican suppliers, it truly saddens me. Not only to see what were once quality products been transformed into a “price-per-build” mentality, but what of our youth? Home ownership for the next generation may be very difficult for them to achieve with low paying jobs. Our standard of living is ultimately going to decline in North America.

The cure for the current recession was never found, they only treated the symptoms by throwing cash at it. Look at what is happening in Europe at this time and the American debt is now 90% of their GDP. We are no better up here, Canadians are also piling on the debt with debt-to-income levels rising to 145 per cent and an “average” household debt of $96,000.00.
 
Is that a storm you see on the horizon? Better believe it is. 

I am rambling - time to enjoy my music.

Be well... 

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Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #50 on: 11 Jun 2010, 01:21 am »
I agree with you about North American companies going to Mexico, China, India, etc.

Thank goodness Bryston is not doin' this! And I hope never in my lifetime!  8)

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Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #51 on: 11 Jun 2010, 01:24 am »
Mexican tweeters:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qzlhAtAai0&feature=related

This should fix vegasdave's lust for horns  :lol:

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Get outta here, lol.  :lol:

By the way, I read that Paradigm cabinets are made in China, true?

Speaking of horns, I'm interested in the Klipsch Cornwall III. The price isn't too high, has the 15" woofer like the JBLs, and Klipsch offers a 30 day money back guarantee for any reason!

And, is made in the US!

Napalm

Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #52 on: 11 Jun 2010, 01:41 pm »
Dave, if I were you I would be wary of any big expense right now:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-stunning-crash-and-burn-of-las-vegas-2010-6

 :o

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Ryanz

Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #53 on: 11 Jun 2010, 03:34 pm »
I have to say this is sad. Having grown up there it is upsetting to see this city turn to shambles. Everyone of my friends who owns a house is in forclosure. "Viva Las Vegas?" Ummmm........ 

werd

Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #54 on: 11 Jun 2010, 04:12 pm »
 :lol: You guys think Vegas will crash. Its the entertainment capital of the world. Its just needs to readjust. Vegas aint goin nowhere but Vegas....

Napalm

Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #55 on: 11 Jun 2010, 04:18 pm »
Its the entertainment capital of the world. Its just needs to readjust.

What "entertainment"?  Gambling? That moved to Wall Street and ain't coming back...

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Napalm

Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #56 on: 11 Jun 2010, 04:40 pm »
I'm considering the Dynaudio Focus 360s at the moment.

Here for you:

http://www.soundstage.com/equipment/dynaudio_focus_360.htm

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Napalm

Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #57 on: 11 Jun 2010, 06:50 pm »
Speaking of horns, I'm interested [...]

You should join Mag, he's in South Africa checking the world's biggest vuvuzela:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIGIAh2GTOA

Have respect, even the smallest garden variety can easily produce 130dB:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGygEbhvOOU

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Ryanz

Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #58 on: 11 Jun 2010, 07:18 pm »
:lol: You guys think Vegas will crash. Its the entertainment capital of the world. Its just needs to readjust. Vegas aint goin nowhere but Vegas....

There's no way Vegas will crash. I was just stating that it's a shame that people there are going through some hard times. The vast majority of the work there is construction and casino. I hope vegasdave is sustaining.  :thumb:

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Re: Amplifier Clipping
« Reply #59 on: 11 Jun 2010, 09:17 pm »
:lol: You guys think Vegas will crash. Its the entertainment capital of the world. Its just needs to readjust. Vegas aint goin nowhere but Vegas....

I agree. Come see on a weekend here, the casinos are packed.