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Industry Circles => Triode Wire Labs => Topic started by: Triode Pete on 8 Jun 2016, 09:36 pm
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I have been working with "My Brother in Audio, Dave Elledge (PI Audio Group)" on a few new USB products...
The new USB cables include a "Split Power & Data" design as well as a short, USB "Dongle" used very recently at the 2016 Newport Audio Show on Vinnie Rossi's DHT Pre LIO integrated amplifier with a µRendu...
Here's a very recent question posted by Jonathon Janusz on Vinnie Rossi's Circle. In fairness to Vinnie, I brought it to my circle since these are cable questions...
Hey, Pete! Glad you guys had another great show! How about some of the following (for me and or the crowd watching at home):
1) Price?
2) Can it also be made in more traditional cable lengths?
3) Is this cable across the board better as a dongle as short as it can be made, or is there a sweet spot in cable length for performance like some of the other USB cables on the market?
4) Any details to share in regards to the build of the cable (connectors, termination, cryo, etc.)?
5) I'm guessing stiff vs. flexible is solid core vs. stranded wire? Any performance difference between the two?
6) I'm assuming that this cable is designed not to pass power via the USB bus, or are the power connections still there but unused in the case of the uRendu?
That should get the conversation started. :green: Feel free to move some of this to a thread in your circle if more appropriate to break off this topic so this thread stays on track with reports from the show. :)
[Edit] Oh, and say Hi to Dave for me! :thumb:
Hey Jonathon-
Here's some answers to your questions -
1) Price? - $149
2) Can it also be made in more traditional cable lengths? YES, but the short 7-3/4" dongle sounds really good & other lengths need to be a fraction of a certain length to sound its best (BTW- 1 meter length does not sound so good, but 1.5 meter does!)
3) Is this cable across the board better as a dongle as short as it can be made, or is there a sweet spot in cable length for performance like some of the other USB cables on the market? - See Answer #2 above...
4) Any details to share in regards to the build of the cable (connectors, termination, cryo, etc.)? Cryo'd copper wire with "organic" materials that are compatible with USB signal transmission and does not degrade the sound...
5) I'm guessing stiff vs. flexible is solid core vs. stranded wire? Any performance difference between the two? We're (Dave E & I) are still working on the flexible design... Wire remains the same between the two but making the stiff version is easier but not practical for most users. The production version will be flexible...
6) I'm assuming that this cable is designed not to pass power via the USB bus, or are the power connections still there but unused in the case of the uRendu? Most devices require a 5V handshake to get the process going and very importantly, there is a reference ground leg... Therefore, the power connection is still there but not really used.
The production versions can be purchased at Triode Wire Labs or PI Audio Group...
I also have special "regular" USB cable debuting very soon that "splits" the power & data legs, in 0.75m & 1.5m lengths...
Thanks,
Pete
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Can't wait to try it in my system very soon...
Looks like a great product Pete at a very reasonable price.
George
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COOL. :D
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Pete,
Any update on when the production versions will be available?
George
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Hi Pete,
$149 for the dongle too?
Thanks
-Mike
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Pete,
Any update on when the production versions will be available?
George
George-
You should be receiving yours on Friday or Saturday... More in production for later next week.
Hi Pete,
$149 for the dongle too?
Thanks
-Mike
Mike - the short, flexible one cable dongle is $149 and the 0.75m Split Power / Data USB cable is $329.
Cheers,
Pete
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How does one order one of these? Went to the Triode and PI website and couldn't find them.
Thx
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I have been using mine for a few weeks now and I can give it a "highly recommended" endorsement! :thumb: :thumb:
Here are the notes I sent to Pete and Dave:
More refined sounding across the board
Treble - less splashy sounding, better decay and detail
Midrange - less sibilant, more weight and depth in vocals, punchier sounding
Bass - stronger and more articulate
Initial attack of the notes is spot on and really draws me in
I compared their dongle to the stock adapter that came with the microRendu and the Paul Pang Red USB cable.
George
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How does one order one of these? Went to the Triode and PI website and couldn't find them.
Thx
Shoot me a PM with your email address & I'll send you a detailed PayPal invoice.
Sorry, I need to get my new cable products professionally photographed and then updated on my website... Been very busy with audio shows, family, life, etc...
Thank you for understanding,
Pete
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Would the effect on an Amber Uptone be expected to be similar to those with the uRendu?
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I've got two of these right now and am loving them! One from the microrendu to the LIO and one from a sonicorbiter to a Schiit modi multibit.
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The split power and data cable in my system added much detail and heft to my already wonderful sound. Highly recommended.
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Would the effect on an Amber Uptone be expected to be similar to those with the uRendu?
Yes, the "Dongle" should work wonderfully with the UpTone Audio Regen Amber!
Cheers,
Pete
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The split power and data cable in my system added much detail and heft to my already wonderful sound. Highly recommended.
I've got two of these right now and am loving them! One from the microrendu to the LIO and one from a sonicorbiter to a Schiit modi multibit.
Thanks, guys! I appreciate your kind accolades!!!
Cheers,
Pete
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Would the effect on an Amber Uptone be expected to be similar to those with the uRendu?
I use one on the Uptone Regen and, yes, it is excellent. Better IMS than the much vaunted Curious Regen cable.
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Pete worked with me for a bit longer version of the "Spirit" Dongle--.75m length. It has been in use nearly 2 weeks now. I have been using with the Rossi LIO DHT and the microRendu. I do not have sufficient space shelf space behind my LIO to accommodate the microRendu connected to the normal shorter "Spirit" Dongle and provide support for the microRendu and Dongle that I wanted. I instead elected to curve the additional length "Spirit" from the back of the LIO to the side of the LIO where the microRendu is supported by the shelf.
My opinion is the "Spirit" does not color the presentation. I find that characteristic as well from my use of several of Pete's power cables. "Spirit" imaging is quite good with perceived differences in depth for various instruments and vocals. The "Spirit" general characteristics seem to fall between two other cables I have--Paul Pang Red v2 and Wireworld Platinum Starlight. Paul Pang is wider, more recessed and warmer. With some dacs, it can seem too diffuse. The Platinum Starlight is more forward and has reduced width. Sound is very clear and dynamic. The "Spirit" seems to occupy more of the middle ground between the characteristics of these two. During my testing this "Spirit" Dongle has worked well with the LIO DHT, which by design removes the influence of interconnect cabling and system grid power.
Thanks Pete
Will
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Better IMS than the much vaunted Curious Regen cable.
I use the curious usb cable and love it! Can you say more about how the TWL usb cable sounds better?
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I use the curious usb cable and love it! Can you say more about how the TWL usb cable sounds better?
The Curious cable is highly resolving but has a touch of the dryness to the upper mids and highs that silver/silver plated cables always have in my hearing.
The Triode/PI cable has a fuller, more harmonically rich sound throughout the frequency spectrum, while still also being highly resolving.
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The Curious cable is highly resolving but has a touch of the dryness to the upper mids and highs that silver/silver plated cables always have in my hearing.
The Triode/PI cable has a fuller, more harmonically rich sound throughout the frequency spectrum, while still also being highly resolving.
Thanks Rpf, Sounds right up my alley.
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In addition to the µRendu USB "Dongle", I have a slightly longer (~16" or ~ 40cm) USB cable available called the "Discreet".
Whereas the "Dongle" is very, very good, the slightly longer "Discreet" USB cable has a bit more "clarity" and "punch"...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=149658)
Cheers,
Pete
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I have been continuing to evaluate my 3 cables in the Rossi LIO DHT and the "Spirit" .75m Dongle has presented the best. I had previously posted this cable seemed to occupy the middle ground of my other 2 cables, and with further listening, I think this cable has the best of both worlds of the other two. For me, clarity, balance, soundstage, and imaging are superior for my configuration. It is also less expensive than other two.
Will
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In addition to the µRendu USB "Dongle", I have a slightly longer (~16" or ~ 40cm) USB cable available called the "Discreet".
Whereas the "Dongle" is very, very good, the slightly longer "Discreet" USB cable has a bit more "clarity" and "punch"...
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=149658)
Cheers,
Pete
I have ordered one of these. Very exciting to see how much it will improve upon my courious cable and now using the standard Belkin that Vinnie includes with LIO dac.
Regards Magnus
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Would it be possible to terminate with a micro usb plug to go from microrendu>chord mojo?
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The "discrete" USB cable arrived some days ago and is now burning in. Without saying too much its a very good cable that is better than courious cable dongle and the Belkin dongle
wich I compared against. I can´t say how this one differs from the other " urendu dongle" mentioned in this thread.
It seems that the burn in process is slower than usual with cables- maybe just a hunch but it reminds me of the process with amps or larger electronic apperature. Performance goes up and down. :scratch:
Thanks again Pete
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The "discrete" USB cable arrived some days ago and is now burning in. Without saying too much its a very good cable that is better than courious cable dongle and the Belkin dongle
wich I compared against. I can´t say how this one differs from the other " urendu dongle" mentioned in this thread.
It seems that the burn in process is slower than usual with cables- maybe just a hunch but it reminds me of the process with amps or larger electronic apperature. Performance goes up and down. :scratch:
Thanks again Pete
Hi Magnus,
Thank you for your kind accolades! Once the USB "Discrete" cable "settles" into your systems, you should be ecstatic about its performance!
Would it be possible to terminate with a micro usb plug to go from microrendu>chord mojo?
Yes, consulting with Mr. PI Audio (Dave Elledge), this is certainly doable (but not necessarily simple to implement)...
Cheers,
Pete
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The Curious cable is highly resolving but has a touch of the dryness to the upper mids and highs that silver/silver plated cables always have in my hearing.
The Triode/PI cable has a fuller, more harmonically rich sound throughout the frequency spectrum, while still also being highly resolving.
I too am using the curious usb cable for many months now and have been happy with it until recently, when a friend brought over the jcat reference usb for testing. What the jcat brought to my system was a livelier bass (more punch and articulation) and took away the mid bass bloom the curious had. I also liked that the presentation was slightly more laid back, giving the feel of increased depth (my room is small, so this is welcomed).
I was pretty much convinced that I would get the jcat usb until I looked up its price (€499/1m). That kinda halted me and pinged me to relook my options. Could you let me know what characteristics the twl usb has over the curious in terms of stage depth and bass?
I have the 7+, 10+ and gold statement in my system so I know the sonic signature of them analog cables, just not too sure about usb. I find digital can be a bit tricky and in my personal experience, an 'award winning' company who does good analog cables can sometimes also produce sub-par digital cables (not referring to twl).
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Quoted own message accidentally while trying to modify :duh:
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I too am using the curious usb cable for many months now and have been happy with it until recently, when a friend brought over the jcat reference usb for testing. What the jcat brought to my system was a livelier bass (more punch and articulation) and took away the mid bass bloom the curious had. I also liked that the presentation was slightly more laid back, giving the feel of increased depth (my room is small, so this is welcomed).
I was pretty much convinced that I would get the jcat usb until I looked up its price (€499/1m). That kinda halted me and pinged me to relook my options. Could you let me know what characteristics the twl usb has over the curious in terms of stage depth and bass?
I have the 7+, 10+ and gold statement in my system so I know the sonic signature of them analog cables, just not too sure about usb. I find digital can be a bit tricky and in my personal experience, an 'award winning' company who does good analog cables can sometimes also produce sub-par digital cables (not referring to twl).
It's been a good while since I've had the Curious cable so I can't get too specific about the differences. I definitely found the Curious to be somewhat more aggressive and forward (slightly exaggerated leading edge transients and less natural highs). While the TWL is more relaxed it still has great soundstage depth and image separation. I found it also had more weight and harmonic richness while maintaining a good balance along the frequency spectrum (ie., I do not hear it as sounding thick). There is more texture and articulation to the bass with the TWL and all in all, to me, IMS, the TWL is just more natural sounding.
Hope this helps.
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I too am using the curious usb cable for many months now and have been happy with it until recently, when a friend brought over the jcat reference usb for testing. What the jcat brought to my system was a livelier bass (more punch and articulation) and took away the mid bass bloom the curious had. I also liked that the presentation was slightly more laid back, giving the feel of increased depth (my room is small, so this is welcomed).
I was pretty much convinced that I would get the jcat usb until I looked up its price (€499/1m). That kinda halted me and pinged me to relook my options. Could you let me know what characteristics the twl usb has over the curious in terms of stage depth and bass?
I have the 7+, 10+ and gold statement in my system so I know the sonic signature of them analog cables, just not too sure about usb. I find digital can be a bit tricky and in my personal experience, an 'award winning' company who does good analog cables can sometimes also produce sub-par digital cables (not referring to twl).
If you like my "Plus Series" & "Statement" series of power cables, you'll definitely like my USB cables... They are very "natural" sounding, like rpf commented... It's been a good while since I've had the Curious cable so I can't get too specific about the differences. I definitely found the Curious to be somewhat more aggressive and forward (slightly exaggerated leading edge transients and less natural highs). While the TWL is more relaxed it still has great soundstage depth and image separation. I found it also had more weight and harmonic richness while maintaining a good balance along the frequency spectrum (ie., I do not hear it as sounding thick). There is more texture and articulation to the bass with the TWL and all in all, to me, IMS, the TWL is just more natural sounding.
Bottom line, after 30 days of auditioning, "If you're not happy, I'm not happy"; you'll get a full refund (minus the original shipping charges)...
Thank you for your consideration!
Cheers,
Pete
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If you like my "Plus Series" & "Statement" series of power cables, you'll definitely like my USB cables... They are very "natural" sounding, like rpf commented...
Bottom line, after 30 days of auditioning, "If you're not happy, I'm not happy"; you'll get a full refund (minus the original shipping charges)...
Thank you for your consideration!
Cheers,
Pete
Hi Pete, I will definitely consider the twl usb then :). While I do like the "plus series" for its natural, smooth and organic tone, I find it lacking just a bit on dynamics. Nevertheless, it is still an overachiever but I'll probably change one of them to the digital american in the future :wink:
Also, thank you rpf for helping me in understanding a little more on how the twl usb compares to the curious!
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Went to your site, don't see a way to order the Spirit Dongle.
Link, please.
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Went to your site, don't see a way to order the Spirit Dongle.
Link, please.
Sorry, I have not had the opportunity to update my website with my USB products. If you can "PM" me with your PayPal email address, I can send you a detailed PayPal invoice.
Thanks,
Pete
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I too am using the curious usb cable for many months now and have been happy with it until recently, when a friend brought over the jcat reference usb for testing. What the jcat brought to my system was a livelier bass (more punch and articulation) and took away the mid bass bloom the curious had. I also liked that the presentation was slightly more laid back, giving the feel of increased depth (my room is small, so this is welcomed).
I was pretty much convinced that I would get the jcat usb until I looked up its price (€499/1m). That kinda halted me and pinged me to relook my options. Could you let me know what characteristics the twl usb has over the curious in terms of stage depth and bass?
I have the 7+, 10+ and gold statement in my system so I know the sonic signature of them analog cables, just not too sure about usb. I find digital can be a bit tricky and in my personal experience, an 'award winning' company who does good analog cables can sometimes also produce sub-par digital cables (not referring to twl).
I am working with a number of USB cables at present to find the best sound for my system.
I am feeding a macbook pro via USB
to a Wyred Recovery which has a Linear PSU with a TWL Digital American PC
to a Hegel H360
Firstly, at this level "preference" is mostly system tuning/matching and personal taste IMO
First, the Curious USB cable is very fine for $100. I like the sound. If you have a bright room, or a forward sounding system that is perhaps "too revealing" at times - meaning fatiguing or perhaps makes bad recordings really obviously bad sounding, I think the curious cables are going to help.
I have used the TWL Cable for a few days.
The TWL 16" Discreet cables was superior to the Curious, it has more PRAT, tighter but less pronouced bass with less bloom, and snares, symbols, etc have much more life up top. However, the balance shifts up when using it - the combination of less bass bloom, and more treble detail makes it sound a bit more forward in comparison. Absolutely NOT a bad thing, but it depends on your ancillaries and room. Even with a bright room and a preference for the "curious type sound" the TWL beat it out within a few hours, and the Curious was sold.
The TWL is not fatiguing on the face of it, it is neutral, clear, but after a while, it is not my favorite cable so far, given my bright room and my personal taste (I loved the PRAT and the detail, but I felt it left the bass behind- it was tighter but less bloom - more drum head hitting, more finger plucky, but less whomp ambience, room shaking from bass lines, which I like)
I have some cables I prefer, but they are significantly more expensive.
To this point, I find that Dana Cables USB (700 Euro +) and Total Dac D1 cables (350 euro) are both better IMO.
They have all of the clarity of the TWL with more slam and a more organic sound that is NEVER fatiguing.
They are also, as mentioned 2X - 4X the price and my copies are better broken in, so the TWL main gain some ground as it continues to do it's thing.
It should also be noted that these particular cables I am comparing to are seen as VERY good for their MUCH higher prices, they are the cream of the crop IMO - so I bet TWL would whallop the "average $400 cable"
So , I am still burning in the TWL more to give it a fairer take.
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Interesting perspective. I sold my Total Dac USB cable once I got the Curious Cable. I found the upper midrange to be slightly forward on the Total Dac, rendering it a bit 'drier' sounding while the lower midrange on the Curious cable was its forte. My dac is an Auralic Vega which might be the reason for the change in synergy.
Nevertheless if you blinded me I probably would not be able to tell the difference between the two cables :thumb:
I don't think price has anything to do with what tonal quality I prefer with USB cables.
Best,
Anand.
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I am working with a number of USB cables at present to find the best sound for my system.
I am feeding a macbook pro via USB
to a Wyred Recovery which has a Linear PSU with a TWL Digital American PC
to a Hegel H360
Firstly, at this level "preference" is mostly system tuning/matching and personal taste IMO
First, the Curious USB cable is very fine for $100. I like the sound. If you have a bright room, or a forward sounding system that is perhaps "too revealing" at times - meaning fatiguing or perhaps makes bad recordings really obviously bad sounding, I think the curious cables are going to help.
I have used the TWL Cable for a few days.
The TWL 16" Discreet cables was superior to the Curious, it has more PRAT, tighter but less pronouced bass with less bloom, and snares, symbols, etc have much more life up top. However, the balance shifts up when using it - the combination of less bass bloom, and more treble detail makes it sound a bit more forward in comparison. Absolutely NOT a bad thing, but it depends on your ancillaries and room. Even with a bright room and a preference for the "curious type sound" the TWL beat it out within a few hours, and the Curious was sold.
The TWL is not fatiguing on the face of it, it is neutral, clear, but after a while, it is not my favorite cable so far, given my bright room and my personal taste (I loved the PRAT and the detail, but I felt it left the bass behind- it was tighter but less bloom - more drum head hitting, more finger plucky, but less whomp ambience, room shaking from bass lines, which I like)
I have some cables I prefer, but they are significantly more expensive.
To this point, I find that Dana Cables USB (700 Euro +) and Total Dac D1 cables (350 euro) are both better IMO.
They have all of the clarity of the TWL with more slam and a more organic sound that is NEVER fatiguing.
They are also, as mentioned 2X - 4X the price and my copies are better broken in, so the TWL main gain some ground as it continues to do it's thing.
It should also be noted that these particular cables I am comparing to are seen as VERY good for their MUCH higher prices, they are the cream of the crop IMO - so I bet TWL would whallop the "average $400 cable"
So , I am still burning in the TWL more to give it a fairer take.
That's a really interesting take because I know a couple of people who have sold off their totaldac D1 cables in favor of the curious! :lol: I personally am looking for a more organic and less aggressive (forward) sound than the curious. After listening to the jcat usb, it had this tightness in bass that makes the 'thud' of the drum hit you in the chest, rather than a 'thumm-ing' bloom the curious had, resulting in the feeling of quantity over quality. I actually dislike the room shaking bass (unless it's movies) and was thinking for the longest time to swap to the Spatial Audio loudspeakers. So given your assessment, it's inching me towards the twl usb even more!
However the part about 'forward sounding' reminded me of something. When testing the jcat, 2 of us felt it was more laidback and the curious was more in your face, while the other felt differently. So it really makes me wonder, what constitutes to 'forward sounding', and do different people have different perceptions about what actually makes the sound forward or laidback?
I too was using a w4s recovery reclocker with a balanced dc lps powered by cords from ansuz acoustics, but sold it off after trying the Singxer SU-1. Compared to the RUR, it had a much rounder and smoother sound, using only the stock cord. I have since modded the Singxer to be fed using an external DC supply and IMO it's one of the best purchases I have made this year. Now I'm using the 7+ with it, but hope to swap to a DA in the future.
Would be good if you could report again after a few more days as I find that cables usually take time to settle. My curious only began to sound 'right' after a week. My gold statement also took quite a long time to break in (more than 2-3 weeks). Wouldn't be surprised if the twl gets better after a few more days.
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This is really quite a wonderful usb cable. I've had my reservations when I first received it a week ago, but it seems to show signs of settling. I've been running them in with the Tellurium Q Burn in disc when I'm not using my setup.
Day 1: Superb soundstage and details, but experienced hollow vocals and lacked bass. Love hate relationship
Day 3-4: Vocals became full and sweet but bass was still lacking the attack and weight
Day 7 morning: BOOOM! The bass was finally here, 2 days after I dropped Pete a mail about the burn in duration. It had weight, tightness and definition. Really enjoyed my brief listening session in the morning.
So far I have around 160 hours on it - anyone experienced more changes after this mark?
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This is really quite a wonderful usb cable. I've had my reservations when I first received it a week ago, but it seems to show signs of settling. I've been running them in with the Tellurium Q Burn in disc when I'm not using my setup.
Day 1: Superb soundstage and details, but experienced hollow vocals and lacked bass. Love hate relationship
Day 3-4: Vocals became full and sweet but bass was still lacking the attack and weight
Day 7 morning: BOOOM! The bass was finally here, 2 days after I dropped Pete a mail about the burn in duration. It had weight, tightness and definition. Really enjoyed my brief listening session in the morning.
So far I have around 160 hours on it - anyone experienced more changes after this mark?
Seems like the USB shares the same burn-in profile as the Spirit75. I, too, experienced the exact same thing (albeit with the Spirit 75) but once it settled in, there was no going back.
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Just wanted to say I'm another very satisfied customer of Triode Labs re: USB 'Spirit' dongle. Have given it about 100hrs burn in and the SQ is unreal.
Highly recommended!!
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Seems like the USB shares the same burn-in profile as the Spirit75. I, too, experienced the exact same thing (albeit with the Spirit 75) but once it settled in, there was no going back.
Just wanted to say I'm another very satisfied customer of Triode Labs re: USB 'Spirit' dongle. Have given it about 100hrs burn in and the SQ is unreal.
Highly recommended!!
Thank you gents for your kind feedback!!!
One thing I should note regarding ALL my digital cables... Even though I have a "top of the line", High Power audiodharma Cable Cooker, all the Digital Cables (USB, SPDIF, AES-EBU, etc.) do not appear to be "affected" by the cable cooker. In other words, the cable cooker does not appear to be an effective tool for pre-conditioning Digital Cables.
My theory (as well as Dave Elledge from PI Audio) is that the cables reside in the "Digital" world. My "bread & butter" cables (power, speaker, interconnect) reside in the analog world, where the cables, including dielectric, appears to condition & settle with the cable cooker.
Digital is a different animal & responds differently to material selection, including dielectric.
My $0.02,
Pete
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Finally, finally, finally, I've started to update my TWL website with additional products that I have been offering for close to 3 years now!
Here's a preview of the "Split Power & Data" USB cable... http://www.triodewirelabs.com/triodeweb/shop/premium-digital-interconnects/split-power-data-usb-cable/ (http://www.triodewirelabs.com/triodeweb/shop/premium-digital-interconnects/split-power-data-usb-cable/)
(http://www.audiocircle.com/image.php?id=169742)
Cheers,
Pete
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I just picked up a Discrete USB and dongle from Pete. So will about 100 hours of burn in do it?
NB
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I've got Pete's dongle and in the three weeks I have had it, I've put on 500 hours by running a signal through it 24/7. Can't say for sure if it's changed much but mine had about a 1000 hours on it when I bought from jtwrace.
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Pete advised me around 150 hours, with preferably a 6 hours on 6 hours off signal cycle.
NB
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After a few weeks in my system, just wanted to highly recommend Pete's discrete USB cables. Sitting between my audio-only Windows PC and Decware modified TEAC NT-503 DAC, this cable absolutely delivers the goods. HiFi streamed TIDAL tunes are rivaling and often exceeding the SQ of my venerable TRL modified Sony DVP-NS900V.
Simply no digital nasties, and it throws a natural sounding deep, wide soundstage. Plenty of detail and recording space ambience. Vocals are to die for. If your auditioning USB cables, I encourage to give Pete's discrete a listen.
Regards,
NB
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After a few weeks in my system, just wanted to highly recommend Pete's discrete USB cables. Sitting between my audio-only Windows PC and Decware modified TEAC NT-503 DAC, this cable absolutely delivers the goods. HiFi streamed TIDAL tunes are rivaling and often exceeding the SQ of my venerable TRL modified Sony DVP-NS900V.
Simply no digital nasties, and it throws a natural sounding deep, wide soundstage. Plenty of detail and recording space ambience. Vocals are to die for. If your auditioning USB cables, I encourage to give Pete's discrete a listen.
Regards,
NB
Thank you, NB! I have been told that the Discrete "shoots & scores" way above its price points...
Thanks again for your kind accolades.
Cheers,
Pete
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It's a slam dunk, no brainer in my book Pete. Congratulations on another fine affordable audiophile product. :thumb:
NB