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Title: RIP AV123
Post by: HT cOz on 16 Aug 2010, 07:47 pm
Love'em or Hate'em AV123 is gone.  A note on their website says it all, they are no more.

I just want to say that this company brought me into audio with some nice products and a great crowd. 

R.I.P.

Cheers,
Robert
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: S Clark on 16 Aug 2010, 07:51 pm
No one Few can argue about the value of their products.  I sincerely hope that a version re-emerges with new leadership.  That X-Statik speaker was amazing at the $799 price point. 
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: Big Red Machine on 16 Aug 2010, 07:52 pm
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Dear Friends:

It is with profound sadness that we are announcing the closing of AV123/Perpetual Technologies effective today.

We join in sending all of you our sincerest thanks and deepest appreciation for your support through these last 11+ years. Our history is rich with wonderful products and happy moments, all in the name of making great music affordable for all of you.

Sadly, recent events have cast a very unfavorable light on AV123 and have effectively sealed our collective fate. We hope that over time, we will be able to offer more information.

No amount of thanks on our part would ever be adequate enough in exchange for your past support.

Shortly we hope to be able to offer you more information about how to obtain MFW15 amplifiers should you require one. Please stay tuned to this page for updates. We hope to have this in place within the next few weeks.

In the meantime while we orderly wind down our business – allow us to once again thank you for your patronage and support through all of the times… both good and bad.

Respectfully yours,

The Team at AV123
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: Nick77 on 16 Aug 2010, 07:58 pm
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    I just want to say that this company brought me into audio with some nice products and a great crowd.                                                               

Same here  :(
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: wushuliu on 16 Aug 2010, 08:02 pm
No one can argue about the value of their products.  I sincerely hope that a version re-emerges with new leadership.  That X-Statik speaker was amazing at the $799 price point.

Mmm, actually I think there are quite a few of us who could argue about the value of their products. I'd toss my defective X-sub in the trash if it weren't so pretty. The products were definitely pretty.
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: satfrat on 16 Aug 2010, 08:19 pm
RIP the AV123 fanboys.  :wave:
 
Cheers,
Robin
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: werd on 16 Aug 2010, 08:25 pm
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Dear Friends:

It is with profound sadness that we are announcing the closing of AV123/Perpetual Technologies effective today.

We join in sending all of you our sincerest thanks and deepest appreciation for your support through these last 11+ years. Our history is rich with wonderful products and happy moments, all in the name of making great music affordable for all of you.

Sadly, recent events have cast a very unfavorable light on AV123 and have effectively sealed our collective fate. We hope that over time, we will be able to offer more information.

No amount of thanks on our part would ever be adequate enough in exchange for your past support.

Shortly we hope to be able to offer you more information about how to obtain MFW15 amplifiers should you require one. Please stay tuned to this page for updates. We hope to have this in place within the next few weeks.

In the meantime while we orderly wind down our business – allow us to once again thank you for your patronage and support through all of the times… both good and bad.

Respectfully yours,

The Team at AV123

P.S

Please keep the donations coming in our charities need you.....  :lol:
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: S Clark on 16 Aug 2010, 08:41 pm
Mmm, actually I think there are quite a few of us who could argue about the value of their products. I'd toss my defective X-sub in the trash if it weren't so pretty. The products were definitely pretty.
Sorry to hear that you had bad luck with them.  I have heard the prototype LS6, LS9, and the X-Statik and they are very well designed speakers.  However, there is the prototype, and there is production, so you may have a more valid viewpoint than I.  Having said that, a center channel that I picked up for nearly nothing has performed admirably. 
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: wushuliu on 16 Aug 2010, 09:00 pm
Sorry to hear that you had bad luck with them.  I have heard the prototype LS6, LS9, and the X-Statik and they are very well designed speakers.  However, there is the prototype, and there is production, so you may have a more valid viewpoint than I.  Having said that, a center channel that I picked up for nearly nothing has performed admirably.

Yes, I believe the emphasis here is on 'production' with a capital P. Also i believe of their products, the speaker line had fewer issues/complaints. Anything sub-related, amp-related, pre-order aka vaporware related, raffle(!)-realted - you get the picture - forgetaboutit. Anyhoos, I admit the site was a gateway drug of sorts when it came to speakers. Before I got into diy I would look at the photos (and prices) all the time and drool.
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: HT cOz on 16 Aug 2010, 09:13 pm
I admit the site was a gateway drug of sorts when it came to speakers.

 :lol: That is a good one...

It was what it was and I think the sane people can just let it go.
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: raztec on 25 Aug 2010, 03:49 am
It's really a shame that the company AV123 did not at least keep it's forum alive. That was a repository of valuable information that is now forever lost.

Perhaps AV123 is the one thing he was passionate about and will revive it once he gets out of jail.

http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/home-theater-audio-video-news/26385-mark-schifter-av123-indicted.html
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: Noseyears on 28 Aug 2010, 03:22 am
I noticed that the forum was not getting enough visitors on the last months.

Here's more info about. Sad news.

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/av123-mark-schifter-indicted-grand-jury
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: Letitroll98 on 28 Aug 2010, 04:10 pm
I noticed that the forum was not getting enough visitors on the last months.

Here's more info about. Sad news.

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/av123-mark-schifter-indicted-grand-jury

"Sadly, recent events have cast a very unfavorable light on AV123 and have effectively sealed our collective fate."  Wow, to say the least.  Is there anyone defending this guy?  Doesn't seem like there is any defense if a shred of the charges are true, but there is often another side to any story.   
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: SlushPuppy on 28 Aug 2010, 04:32 pm
"Sadly, recent events have cast a very unfavorable light on AV123 and have effectively sealed our collective fate."  Wow, to say the least.  Is there anyone defending this guy?  Doesn't seem like there is any defense if a shred of the charges are true, but there is often another side to any story.


On August 13, 2010, Mark L. Schifter plead guilty to two charges.

Theft (F3) - felony - theft of $15,000 or more
Charitable Fraud (F5) - felony

Sentencing will take place on October 8, 2010.
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: jackman on 31 Aug 2010, 03:03 am
RIP the AV123 fanboys.  :wave:
 
Cheers,
Robin

Hey, haven't the thought-police outlawed the use of the word fanboy?  Maybe the rule only applies to when I use the term.  :scratch:
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: JohnR on 31 Aug 2010, 04:52 am
Hey, haven't the thought-police outlawed the use of the word fanboy?  Maybe the rule only applies to when I use the term.  :scratch:

We asked that people let up on it as it was being used pejoratively to further disputes on this site. Personally, I think that was a reasonable request.
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: Big Red Machine on 14 Sep 2010, 04:55 pm
Received my Victim Impact Statement just now via email.  Voluntary to complete and submit.  Didn't know they had my info.  A little spooky. :cyclops:
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: Nick77 on 14 Sep 2010, 05:07 pm
Same here.............
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: kingdeezie on 14 Sep 2010, 05:26 pm
Same here, it must be through the email list of costumers or something...

Its a shame really. I waited two years for my LSs, and it was a miserable wait full of lies and excuses.

I can't complain now though. Retro fitted with a new crossover from Response these babies are kickin some sweet tunes out.

Unfortunate this happened in such an ugly manner.
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: bunnyma357 on 14 Sep 2010, 05:29 pm
I just got mine -

They have everyone's records - since I'm sure they audited all of AV123's books & documentation - as well as the Graham Co.'s paypal records.

I was a little freaked out earlier this year when out of the blue the Colorado AG left a somewhat nebulous voicemail on the machine.  The whole thing has been just a sad experience.


Jim C
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: sfox50 on 26 Sep 2010, 11:30 pm
What about a AV123 support circle? I'm sorry the company went down, and I have only one product. It's a 10 inch sealed UVF or UFW or some such. It's doing fine in the AV room doing .1 duty, and yes it's pretty ( clear maple & gloss black.) What sort of failures are happening with the subs?  I hope the drivers themselves are holding up. I would welcome the opportunity to swap the plate amp for a class D or such!   
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: satfrat on 26 Sep 2010, 11:46 pm
What about a AV123 support circle? I'm sorry the company went down, and I have only one product. It's a 10 inch sealed UVF or UFW or some such. It's doing fine in the AV room doing .1 duty, and yes it's pretty ( clear maple & gloss black.) What sort of failures are happening with the subs?  I hope the drivers themselves are holding up. I would welcome the opportunity to swap the plate amp for a class D or such!   

AudioCircle's already got a support group with the GR Research Circle. Go talk to Danny if you need AV123 support.  :thumb:
 
Cheers,
Robin
Title: Re: RIP AV123
Post by: sfox50 on 27 Sep 2010, 01:30 am
Thanks for that info, satfrat. I didn't pay much attention to the company or to this board since I bought the sub.